GRADING THE DOKKAN COMMUNITY'S HOT TAKES 3! (DBZ: Dokkan Battle)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- Video Title: GRADING THE DOKKAN COMMUNITY'S HOT TAKES 3! (DBZ: Dokkan Battle)
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"The 5 year LRs have aged" hasn't been a hot take since late 2020 tbh. As soon as Str UI and LR Jiren came out, people were already saying the 5 years got replaced. It's been a freezing cold take for a while.
They just suck.
Bro I was mad that I summoned for the 5th year LRs because their performance wasn't better than LRK&C in short or long events. This was the first time I've seen the community turn into Genshin players and ignore the facts
I literally broke my no summoning on yellow coin banner rule when STR UI dropped on global because I liked him more than the 5 year fusions and that's what I was saving for lmao. They started aging before they even came out on global if you think about it
But their coolness hasn't aged a day 😎
@@iasongain4497 for sure, I want them so badly lmao
Well then, I guess it's time to hear someone say that TEQ Ultimate Gohan is mid for the 9001 time.
I love coconut milk
Whoever said he's mid is braindead bad at the game
@@destroyer5192 I hate coconut milk
time to see people stating facts and them calling those hot takes for the 919217th time🔥
You know, as someone who didn't care much for him before, now he's easily taken AGL LR Gohan place for me as my "must have defensive unit" whenever I can put him on the team. Usually after a single super attack he tanks attacks fairly well (don't know about red zone, global player) but he has definitely been the key to beating many SBR, ESBR, and obviously is arguably the best unit for long events. And no, this isn't a hot take, I really don't understand why people don't like him
Honestly TEQ Gogeta's fusion requirement makes no sense. Even in the movie they were beaten like Truth's meat after a new Kale and Caulifla unit drop, so having them fuse at such high HP % is ass.
Cucked solely because of Str Vegito existing and being too good. They couldn't just let Gogeta's unit exist on it's own. Nope. Had to build the condition around Vegito's active to make a combo around using both together for some reason. And Gogeta losing the scouter/DR in half the time literally doesn't make sense. Wow, Fusion dance runs out fast. You're so clever Akatsuki. So funny. Great copy unit you made 1.5 years after the original.
Condition should be at 50% HP or below or at the 4th turn of battle
@@lancevance6346 Woah 2021 and 2020?? Interesting
Drinking game : take a shot for everytime Truth mentions “red zone” in a single video.
At least he defended STR Super Vegeta though
Don't forget he always says the word "power creep" and "aged" most of the time but he's right
Dokkan bosses and events need to be revamped in a way that effects how enemies take damage. Otherwise "lowers defense" effects from Super Attacks will always be usless. Changing that mechanic will buff and add value to so many units.
Without the 7th year LRs, the ginyu force team would clear pure saiyans esbr easier than the pure saiyans team if the goat force could attempt the stage 🐸🍵
That’s true
Based
Thats true, recoome and guldo alone kind of destroy super battle road
Nah pure sayians still way too stacked super vegeta with guranteed stun, lr ssj4s with their like 10 mil atk stats and 500k def, lr ui goku, lr teq gogeta and str vegito, lr kaioken goku and great ape vegeta, there’s just too many option on pure sayians and those units hit like twice as hard as any unit on the ginyu team
@@kylerbrown3202 great ape vegeta wouldn’t get his entrance animation and he doesn’t work great with any of the options you just mentioned. That said, everyone there is relying on getting super attacks in and are ki reliant. The goat force simply just doesn’t care lol they’ll shut down any hope of the enemy supering or just outright eat the damage for breakfast 😂 pure saiyans will beat it faster, sure, but the chad force would no item it a LOT easier
It feels wrong to call a unit bad, simply because power-creep overtook them. I think units should be judged based on two things: How good they were on release, and HOW LONG they were useful. STR Cooler gets his organs ripped out in Red Zone, but it's hardly fair to judge him as "bad" just because the events got harder. There needs to be a way of wording it... like, once-great units can be called "Aged", and always-bad units can be legitimately "Bad".
Release and how long they were useful? Then STR Gogeta would be the strongest unit of all time
I 100% agree. Lets not forget when he was doing 4 million attack stats and guaranteed crits against 75% of the game on release. Calling him "bad" is criminal, "aged" is a much better word to use here.
@@fireystyle3678 To be fair, Str Gogeta is the strongest unit of all time in Dokkan according to the time of release to event difficulty standards
@@fireystyle3678 I'd argue it would be STR ss3 Vegeta. lol ....He's still insanely runnable.
@@stanley13579 I agree 100%, I’ve seen people beat Broly with him on the team
One thing I want to say is that with namek goku as long as he can triple super(which is pretty common in slot 2-3 for me at least) his defense sky rockets and most of the first phases in red zone can give you time to stack and he usually won’t take much damage so truth was definitely underrating the hell out of him saying he’s taking over 400k as I have been able to no item both broly and omega with namek goku on goku/gohans team and namek goku was out preforming most units(besides str gohan when he got out) so yeah I’m tired of namek goku slander
A man of culture I see
@@Casual-Berry thank you very much. And yeah I’m tired of all the namek goku slander that’s been going around
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I don't know if Truth bring namek goku in red zone with 200% lead yet ? But I think the reason why he dislike namek goku because he use namek goku pre 200% leader team and his namek goku never triple super
Once Namek Goku gets his 200% leader hell be goated. He still has yet to fail me, and even though his defense can be kinda poop, he still carried my Saviors SBR run. Quite underrated.
Yeah the way the 5th anniversary units aged is actually crazy
He covered my take! I’m happy with that.
But man, saying “TEQ Gohan is good” is the furthest thing from a hot take I’ve ever seen yet we saw like 6 of them
People tweet that out like no one else is thinking that.
People acting like TEQ Ultimate Gohan isn't good. He's actually one of the best defensive units in the game at 55%. Hell, my one dupe Gohan gets ridiculous fast. And if you keep him on rotation, his attack stacking actually does make a difference- at the end of LGE, I transformed him- 8 million attack Stat, casually. Not great that you have to wait that long to get him a good attack Stat, but the fact that he can hit that level of attack Stat with his defense, he is a very good unit still.
@@ahyesexistence1586 At 55% Gohan starts with like 70k to 80k defense. He builds up rather quickly but it isn't Uber fast.
With dupes, yeah, he builds up really fast. 55% Gohan can be hit really hard in a lot of content
@@weebtrash108 sure, but one super then your good, since he guards
The amount of people who say TEQ gohan is overrated is crazy, they don't even hate the unit because of how it is, but hate it because people like it
@Basic Bee you just proved his point
"Hate it because people like it" is such a common thing that needs to stop just overall, it's okay to admitting you like something most other people like too, stop trying to be edgy and cool when all you do is make a fool of yourself.
Lowkey idk if it’s cause hes 55% but he starts with like 80k defense and guard which isn’t too horrible but he is sooo overrated but I do agree he’s hella useful
At 55% he seems underwhelming to me personally but that prolly cause he’s only 55% be down hit hard though
@@mizzinfamous9746 name 3 units that aren’t LRs that aren’t underwhelming at 55%
I honestly wish they would have given gogeta like 40 percent damage reduction at base like his base form
And give him extra 30 percent damage reduction and the scouter and the crit chance for the 5 turns
Because then gogeta would be good defensively even after his 5 turns
I still love gogeta I always go for him whenever him or vegito comes out
@@kingzroyalzz7059 yeah me too i just find it really annoying how restrective they made him
And they could have easily made him better but they did not and thats What makes mead
@@isthatajojorefrence5271 yeah and I got the year 3 gogeta rainbowed and he’s basically maxed level 10 links
this ain't even hot takes anymore this is literally lava
Super sad you didn't get to mine but I always love these.
These should be like a once a quarter type deal, these are always fun
It’s crazy how the 5 year anni LRs are like, at release were best in the game, and within like 6 months were aging kinda hard
And when I say they were best in game I also mean they were like, some of the most hyped units of all time it’s just insane how the third year LRs were more usable than the fifth year LRs after 6 months of the fifth release
They felt wonky at release they hit hard but they needed so long to build I never liked their design from day one and they aged by WW celebration
3rd year lrs were never better then 5 yr lrs💀 after eza definitely but before I’d argue teq vegito and str gogeta were like 3x as better offensively and better defensively with their chance to dodge and def raise on super
@@kylerbrown3202 man you’re totally out to lunch. The 3rd year Lrs turn one before eza had 130k-160k defence turn one with 2.5-3m attack stats. The 5 year Lrs can’t do those defensive numbers until after the 4th turn and even then it’s iffy. The 5th year Lrs have always been a huge miss defensively.
@@kylerbrown3202 also until the 4th turn they struggle to hit over 2 million attack stat. By turn 5 they’re better.. however the 3 year lr also have the hp recovery on turn 5. I honestly can’t find much redeemable about the 5th year Lrs they were a bad design from day one with such beautiful animations it’s such a shame they wasted those animation on such terrible units. Int lr rose is another wasted potential
@@SINE382 they do not hit 2 mil unless u have them at 55% and the 3 yr lrs at rainbow and yes they are better defensively id much rather have 90k defense with a 50% chance to dodge then just 100k raw defense and vegito launches a guranteed super while gogeta is effective against all types so even if in some scenario the 3rd yr lrs were slightly better defensively the blue fusions would be outputting like 3x more dmg
Notice how when Truth talks about “Top TURS” he says “Kid Buu, Teq Androids, Ginyu, Cell and SSJ3 Goku” no Gohan/Goku. Guess we know who’s better 👦🏾
I think a "versus" mode where you both do the same stage at the same time live, and then the fastest one wins would be cool. Just give people a matchmaking button based on their team strength / level and let them do runs against each other. Wouldn't really harm anything about the game because both players are still playing against the AI and not really each other. We already do that in the form of a leader board, it would just be live and more exciting. Maybe a small reward to give people something to grind for those of us who have literally no content left. You could have the game go split screen but horizontally, where you can both see each others orbs like how its set up on multistreams.
or match make based on account power and level
Sounds good till you realize that a decent % of Dokkan players have p slow phones and so they'd be losing for literally just having a worse phone than someone (the animations on better phones are a lot faster)
@@Luke-rr5ub sounds like a you problem bruh lol you can say that about literally any online multiplayer game. If you didn't have an Xbox back in the day you couldn't play halo, and without internet you couldnt play online. and that was back when dial-up connections were still a thing too. Suck for them but we shouldn't be deprived of something just because you can't use it.
You know what would be awesome to see, a raid boss where you and your friends can fight a boss together and get loot.
Here’s a hot take: 55% units can’t cut it in difficult content anymore. Truth always says that once you pull a unit (If you’re F2P) you should stop summoning, but until you get a couple dupes that unit is gonna get clapped in red zone anyway, meaning you might as well not have them. If you’re going to summon for a unit, you gotta go for dupes if you intend on using them in red zone.
Depends on the unit, but yeah. You really notice the drop-off in defense specifically
based
Hunting for dupes is not a good idea lmao. I get what you're saying but that's most likely just gonna end in shaft
For real, I don't think some red zone stages are supposed to be easily beatable yet, same for the god event when it first came out
Sounds more like a skill issue to me.
when Agl LR kale and caulifla get their eza its over. its curtains, its drapes 😂
Man it gonna suck hearing truth saying they’re the best unit in the game I remembered when they first came out truth did not shut the hell up about them
A DFE Hercule that is the best unit in the game would be fucking hilarious
The 4th years EZAing was not good overall. It gimped the 3 years and made them worse overall and made it so DF LR aren’t spread out by release allowing them to age better. It also makes it so the teams won’t age as well than they would have if they EZAed a year later.
It’s annoying because I completely agree with this but then I always have to remember that eventually this game is going to shut down, and if we keep going at the pace that we’re used to a lot of classic units that we’d want to see eza’d won’t see the light of day before the servers shut down
@@GoReachPastElevation I think basically everything we could consider a classic unit will have an EZA long before the game shuts down, they have years to go of money making
Honestly kinda agree with the STR Vegito comment, you said its not even close how much damage he does compared to other units? I think you might be remembering him with rose tinted glasses my boy
Namek Goku is Becoming Overhated
This is just namek Goku slander, if he is in rotation twice and double super in both, he is well over 300k defense
No he's not. Truth literally has him maxed and him double supering doesn't put him over 300K. He has this well documented
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame He is though
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame Mathematically he is though?
Too bad that's still not enough for Red Zone lol
And you aren't putting him in Slot 1
I’m convinced people who bash LR Nameku and FP Frieza don’t have either units and mimic what others say. They are damn near flawless units and they tank better than 95% of the units in the game and they also hit very hard. There’s literally nothing bad about them besides Nameku not being on a 200% leader skill yet and FP Frieza not having more viable support units. They aged perfectly and nobody can convince me otherwise.
Ik I saw a comment saying ssj aged bad I’m like ur tripping
“PVP is not a good idea. You’re just gonna get people going up against me-“ LMAO!
I love these kind of vids. Keep em coming, they are amazing
Hot take I saw earlier today: Red Zone isn't a standard. That person saidthat the god event was used as a standard when it was released only to not get any new stages added to it. They argued that the same thing is gonna happen to red zone thus using it as a standard was a bad idea.
I disagree cause the god of destruction event quite literally limited itself with its own name while red zone could always get updated and the name would still make sense
Not really it's pretty clear that hard content will come to model or surpass red zone
3:58 I'd say vegitos are probably strong because his mechanics/gimmicks work better for most content(Additionals, Counter > SE, Crits, Dodge).
Also Gogetas are more of 1 hit kill time design while Vegitos are beating them down with multiple attacks and/or counter which I think just ages better cause those times of units are generally get to higher defensive stats.
@@rashad3932 TEQ Gogeta has infinitely better defense than STR Super Vegito.
@@agendawanker nah
@@agendawanker wait which one are we talking about here?
With how fast the 5 year LR’s aged, I’ve got a feeling their EZA’s are going to be completely insane come year 9 or 10
Dog it’s year 8. We got both EZA’s in gear 7 of year 3 and 4. Next time is year 5.
Oh I hope they come out ready to fuck shit up
@@Droub_ I hope so man
If they sucked even with the eza it would be both tragic and hilarious
@@kauanjos3199 they pretty much need is defense
truth u should give phy gogeta full dodge, with 27 dodge he’ll be at 30%+(70%x27%)= 48.9% chance to dodge (based on probability, i can explain the math if needed) and for 3 turns after transformation he’ll be at 50% + (50%x27%) = 63.5% chance to dodge. u might want to consider this to make him feel safer since his defence is still garbage even after double supering and since u wont be running him against broly regardless
23:06 videl could literally 2 turn the god event. the hardest event at her release.
Very situational tho not consistently
I mean…She couldn’t but alright 😂😂😂
@@supertech9257 people did it but okay lmao
I hope Dokkan goes ape shit on 5th year anniversary LRs eventual EZAs - they deserve to be big dogs for longer than what like half a year or whatever it was
i too think LR Super 17 is underhated, let's hate him more
35:30 this guy basically said “this unit would be better if everything about it was better”
Yes
That's how being better works lol
@@StarNameKev thats not a hot take bro and it’s completely obvious why would you even say that.
@@lxxdccvii3740 yea it's not a hot take at all
Don't know why he said it like that 💀
How is majin vegeta not better than them when he tanks like 500x better than those units ever could? Truth always underrates int majin vegeta
because of the things you need TO tank 💀 he says it everytime, you need a trunks and you need 6 orbs. without a trunks what is he gonna do with just 20% dr, a conditional 20% at that
I think units that can deal with super attack gonna age well, red zone can one shot any high defence unit unless units have:
Foresee super attack, DMG Reduction, dodge, guard and nullify super attack
Time to grab the popcorn and laugh my ass off
For everyone saying teq Gohan is the best aging unit in the game, you're wrong. Teq caulifla, ssj3 vegeta and agl super 17 exist.
^^^
AGL Golden too
Ss3 vegeta can’t be used in red zone 10 turns too short , super 17 still takes more damage, caulifia not good against most bosses that’s not a Saiyan & Broly so no
@@cherryb2617 that's not the point. They are way older and have had more value for a longer time. Teq gohans turn 1 defense starts to age, while teq caulifla still dominated the God event last year.
Truth: the year 7 LRs are the most successful and well done.
I would like to point out that SSJ4 Gogeta is the lead of Fused Fighters as one of his two leading categories, but does not have the link. I have him on my JP main and constantly use him, but I consistently find myself missing his 24 ki by 2 ki on rotations where if he had Fused Fighter it wouldn't be an issue. At first, it was noticeable but not big, but as time progresses and I use him more, it becomes far more noticeable how much the lack of Fused Fighter holds him back.
Hot take: units that do a bajillion damage, have a billion defence and do literally everything perfectly without needing any setup are boring af
Depends on the character like VIDEL is very good on release but i shes not anyone’s favorite character. But someone like vegito who is doing only that will get people hype and be used all the times because hes a hype character
@@Uzi1600 exactly what I was thinking, like bruh idc if phy gogeta is slaying everybody as soon as he comes out, he’s dumb fun
Definitely a hot take
Name one unit that even does that lmao teq gohan walls but hits like a feather same with Majin vegeta even ui goku and the 7 yr lrs have their own defensive weaknesses idk what this unflawed unit is ur talking about
@@kylerbrown3202 the 7th lrs
I would like to see truth rank the typings based on OSTs. It's hard to say what order I'd go in. Str would definitely be on top though still.
Truth's twitter has to have some of the coldest takes ever. 99% of these dudes just say the same thing and it's always something truth has already talked about.
Namek goku has a actually been slandered so badly by the community. Use him properly and he’s insane and he’s capable of getting over 100k extra defense every turn. Just wait for that 200% lead which will give him more start of turn defense and improve his stacking and people will see just how good he is. He’s now one of the most underrated units in the game.
People just see his low sot numbers t1 and go crazy but don't realize 1st apperance post super he's at 250k def then goes up to 330k or so 2nd apperance
@@mruptownK Does that really matter if he happens to get assblasted turn one? Like, no hate to him, I've used him a lot in Red Zone. But it HAS happened multiple times to me lmao.
I feel like Namek goku just needs an insane support similar to Full Power Frieza and he’ll be set, because piccolo didn’t cut it 😂
@@princevrak3907 a shit ton of units get destroyed turn 1 in red zone this argument is terrible
But yea he does take damage slot 1 turn 1
@@princevrak3907 ok. Don't put him slot 1 turn 1. Is that better?
Hopefully when nameku gets his 200 percent leader skill he gets a nice support character, with the 100 percent increase in stats or 90 percent (depending in the support) he can be crazy crazy good
He’s already gotten a 200% lead
The third guy who complained about int chadku. I hope he never gets him
Yes!! I love these reviews, keep the content coming truth!
This is Marcus.
Hello, Marcus I’m Ben
According to DaTruth the game is called Dragon Ball Z: Red Zone Battle!
I still highly disagree with the redzone being a true test of a units strength. It’s ONE form of event, if the unit is good in most everything else then it’s a GOOD unit idk what else to say.
Except the Red Zone is also the _hardest_ form of event in the game. Only one item (two uses) are avaliable and it starts off with one or multiple powerful enemies, and it quickly ramps up in difficulty in the later phases in which the boss also starts to become immune to negative status effects while sometimes sealing, stunning, or locking your rotations. If a unit can withstand or even _crush_ the Red Zone, chances are they'll incinerate all the rest of the difficult content that they're able to be run in, lol.
So far there's no such thing as "a unit that's only good in Red Zone, but _isn't_ good in Super Battle Road, the Legendary Goku/Vegeta event, or the GoD event."
You wouldn't use Dokkan Events or Boss Rush to try and prove that a unit is good at this point. Those haven't been difficult at all even for new players since like 2016 or 2017. Same thing is happening with the rest of the hard content, just on a much slower scale. The toughest content is the bar - it's what the game's rapidly moving power creep is working towards taking down in the form of busted ass units and why it's such a big deal when we get garbage like Raditz. I don't see how that's a hot take.
@@gabeitches87 completely understand your points, but the way I see it is I’d wager that the majority of players either don’t have strong enough boxes or simply aren’t interested in these extreme butt ripping difficulty events (forget about red zone if ur f2p). Filling casual viewers heads that a unit is poo poo because they get destroyed in red zone is such a pointless mindset to me. I.e. int namek Goku is so “aged” and bad when in reality he’s a destructive force in literally every event that a casual player would be doing.
@@fabledunknown1029 the survey had over 55% of people say they wanted more hard events
@@gengar5213 survey isn’t relevant, the trend that companies don’t always do exactly what’s in their surveys results is because they understand that nowhere near the actual number of players is responding to those surveys. Ofc the majority of the survey will be asking for hard events BECAUSE the majority of people taking the survey are hardcore players or players that actively keep up with the game all the time. Simple.
@@fabledunknown1029 they keep making more hard events so how is it a minority
I'm quick to complain about LR STR UI Goku, and his lack of dodging, but agl UI Goku is great, anyone who says he's bad is dumb.
floats namek goku
"he stacks too slow"
He's sitting turn 1 with 140k defense lmao, no way in hell you're running him slot 1. Floating him off is good, so he doesn't get tagged, since that's instant death, even him taking 3-4 normals is a red flag. It's a matter of hiding him until his defense is reasonable enough to not die at a mere touch
@@storyshiftcharahurts9992 common sense has left the building
Something a lot of people forget about the 5 year fusions is that they weren't good day 1. LGE was the hardest event ALONG WITH sbr. They were god in LGE which even at the time 300 units were and eh in sbr.
I guess my hot take is Int mv is a fun team to run, since i got him Ive used him over 1000 times and he has never disappointed plus the team i made with him is pure fun to use
LR Super 17 is over hated.
3:30 Thing lot of folks tend to miss is Teq Ult Gohan is going to EZA someday lol, Higher stats, Buffs to kits though nones needed, Higher stats alone will have him crazy, Only way he stands a chance at being irrelevant is if his EZA is 2 or 3+ years off, And I just dont see that being case...
and with new support and 200% leader skills.he isn't going to get power creep for a long time
DBS Super Hero Gohan is going to make him better, along with a possible 200% leader skill, and then, his EZA, people act like he can't get an EZA, but he's 2 years old basically now, it's not IMPOSSIBLE to see him EZA next year
@@fadetoblacks Yeah exactly lol, Just cause units still great dont mean they wont get EZA’d, And yeah theres been lot of more recent units getting theirs before older units, Considering Devs may be avoiding designing a unit as good as him since him aside from top tier Celebration Units, Im sure theyre aware of his use and may have them stalling his EZA...
But regardless like ya said its not that crazy to think he could EZA within next year, Next couple years tops and when he does holy hell lol, I honestly cant wait, Nothing more interesting than an awesome unit getting buffed further!!
15:50 AGL Gohan's transformation condition is wayyyy worse than Gogeta. Gogeta's isn't great but you quite literally have to force Gohan to transform unlike Gogeta, where you can fuse in most of the games content (not red zone ofc)
You can get teq Gogeta to transform if you're also running the year 3s
Ngl we need a new ssj3 vegeta the animations would be crazy
Where would they rip from raging blast
Damage reduction will always be relevant, and it will not age as an ability whatsoever
This is facts
Look at STR SSJ3 Vegeta and AGL Golden Frieza lol
Lr super 17 is over-hated because without him I wouldn't have beaten the power absorption challenge on the gt legendary goku event.
Time for 40 minutes of “Hot Take:___ is the most ___rated unit in the game”
My man said str vegito was the most overrated as if str blue kaioken doesn’t exist.
Kaioken is not overrated he has horrible defense but is leader skill is pretty good if he get a eza he would be a monster
@@R1c0941 his defense hasn’t been good since he came out though, and he came out just before jiren did on jp so he wasn’t even the best leader for his team.
eza ssjb vegeta was my main unit that helped me win in USS and Reps ESBR, sure ui goku helped but in each run I lost he was the reason why
7:07 Blue Kaioken Goku is defenetly by far the most overrated unit in the game. He was mid on release and people overhyped his active. Even the Blue Fusions are more overrated than Str Vegito.
Int Goku black?
@@ntbohl No one overrates Int Goku Black lmao. I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that he is trash. Or do you mean the LR one? Because even the LR one is trash these days, you can't run him anywhere.
@@Taahgs i mean i was referring to their time of release. literally no one thinks that goku is good at this point, so arguing about how people rate them now is irrelevant, imho.
@@Taahgs I mean he could literally cheese the hardest event in the game on his release but ok he might’ve aged fast but saying he was overrated on release is jus cap
@@ntbohl They still do lol
the amount of hot takes is like 2 in this video lmao
its such p2p (mainly whales/semi whales) rhetoric to say "merge the game fuck it" like you lose nothing from having to wait a couple months but f2ps/casual p2ps lose the chance to tactically summon. At this point you can predict which banners are gonna be the best times to summon but I still think merging benefits no one yet takes away from a large portion of the player base.
Hot take: I much better prefer units that have good defense but does absurd amounts of damage (ex. Phy SSJ3 Goku) than units that are defensive juggernauts (ex. Str Gohan).
Str gohan can also put out a triple 10mil attack stat
@@vedapranav2588 turn 59 maybe
@@CBFlam It takes like turn 11 lol
Good for u ss3 is still like 7th or 6th though
@@cherryb2617 more like top 3
Namek Goku gets +100k defense per turn
He ain't bad, in your showcase u did him dirty
Honestly Namek Goku can dominate if you build him up enough.
No he’s trash & couldn’t take hits
And no he doesn’t build 100k def per turn cope
@@cherryb2617 he gets +90% defense when he triple supers lmao
Play the game
@@cherryb2617 MFers are lying and saying you're wrong when Truth has the vids on his video and he doesn't get 90K. You can't make this up 💀 💀 💀 💀
@@JuanjoBaena cause he'll do that every turn
Oh boy is there really a debate for best unit in the game?
It’s obviously teq gohan
2 million dmg is outdated as hell the only thing even keeping him relevant is his defense he’s still really good but even if a unit had 100% dodge against every event and only hit 2 mil I wouldn’t say their the best unit in the game
He's a one trick pony. Subpar damage, linkset, and lead.
Truth the scouter being 5 turns on gogeta and 10 turns on vegito is cuz with the potato retcon #1 in super where the potara gave 1 hour fusion and the dance was 30 minutes meaning that the potara was twice as long as the dance so the scouter was twice as long for vegito than gogeta. And I know that they could have just done gogeta with 10 turns but I like that they had some inspiration from the anime and how things work
Namek goku doesn’t need ki, he needs all the 12ki super attack he can get!
Lr Super 17 is indeed Over hated, I ran him as lead for my androids team in Androids extreme sbr and dominated surprisingly on his lead and a friend Android 13 with Eza agl 17, Str f2p eza Android 13, Phy eza 14 and 15, lr agl Eza androids, and Lr phy Androids and I beat it easily with lr super 17 tanking and dishing out over 3 mil attack stats at 55%. He has his uses and is good, needs better linking partner and then he'll be set
I hate Lr Super 17’s passive so much. He’s just so poorly constructed. He and other super 17s should have big bad bosses as well
The thing is , SBR/ESBR stage difficulty are balanced around the roster of the category. Androids had been pretty weak with no buffs for a long time so it's mostly a breeze already. Outside of that pond, when 17 has to compete against everyone , he's pretty average in everything. Like, LRs released years before him like Jiren, Boujack can do similar numbers or better. I genuinely think he could've been a lot better. Especially as a non BBB unit.
Oh to be a dokkan fan 🤌
Been waiting so long for this
Hilarious for Truth to end this video the way he did. But as global player I disagree Super 17 LR is the worst design ever. His design is weird (Leader Skill:Gt Bosses but not adding #17 AGL and Hell #17 INT, & Ki mechanic)but he never has let me down or have considered him unless. Hope they would add ki blast absorption when he EZA.
Why isn’t big bad bosses a team
Really hot take. Airplane glitch was the funnest time in Dokkan.
I defeated a lot of the esbr idc I did and airplane mode is goated
23:16 eh, wouldn't that go for PHY Gogeta too? And I feel like STR SV is getting a bit too hated and Super Vegeta too
Hot take. 3rd year Lrs are underwhelming even after fusing.
Teq ultimate gohan will always be the most valuable character in the game will never age
Lmao there’s no way your telling me str videl is not good simply because of power creep. Videl is still one of the best unit in the game. Sure her links are shit and she’s needs to be around specific character. But to say she aged because of power creep is definitely not the case. She’s still holds well in other content than just “red zone” people are judging units based off how they would perform in red zone and it’s like, theres still a lot of content within the game lol. Battlefield, sbr, dragon ball history, god of destruction, and tons of more. We need to stop pushing this agenda that simply because of power creep, somehow we can’t just use these characters. I can understand that they might not be able to defeat a certain stage within the game as fast as these new character that are powerful, but let’s not act as if they cannot be used.
Yes, because battlefield is hard? What next, the metric is dokkan events?
@@sacred7738 when did I ever say that dokkan event was the metric? I’m just saying that basing a unit because how they can perform in red zone is the dumbest shit I’ve heard, when clearly they can be good in other content like I mention within my own comment. And yes battlefield can be a struggle for others lmao. Do you not play battlefield? Unless your an endgame player then sure.
@@shinkou4915 Battlefield is literally for people that has 112 good units. That's all you need, debuffing, sealing and stunning. It's easy, which is why I said dokkan event.
I would love to see a "DaTruth Top 10 Favorite/Most Fun Units" vid. I think it would help a lot to understand Truth's point of view on some units
Yeah Blue Gogeta and Blue Vegito got shafted so damn hard, the meta was just on the verge of shifting from rolling events with damage to if you dont have defense you are dead
If a unit needs to be rainbowed or 90% to be top-tier, they aren’t top tier, since 80% of players are going to have them at 55% or 69%
exactly they act like everyone is whales to rainbow the said unit
So, everything besides the 7th anni Lrs?
@@nankono Dpkkan definitely thinks so lol
I mean that would be the unit at their best which would be a fair way to compare them
if dokkan ever gets PvP im hitting that remove app real quick
“I wanna go through this fast”
40 minute video
I think they should just eza agl
Gohan now and change the dokkan shaft system finally
Being f2P sucks sometimes because some of the best units in the game at 55percent is DOG WATER 55% SUPERVEGETA FUCKING ASS 55% STR VEGITO ASS and give me a jukebox system where I can change the song instead of the same song and idk elden ring
The "raditz isnt that bad" was definitely both a hot take and very funny
Well to be fair there's a lot of clowns who take memes super seriously and genuinely start believing shit like Raditz is worse than units like Phy TUR DBS Broly and even the OG TUR Str broly. A lot of the community went full idiot on that Raditz hate bandwagon.
Evening
Sup truth. Do more discussions. Good way to past time and plus we love dokkan
35:30 he basically just said if they were better they would be better
I hope Elon cleanses these poor souls
I remembered Truth called K&C one of the worst releases last year. As someone who had two dupes in them I honestly thought that was weird they stack their defense extremely fast. They made multiple runs of Pure Saiyans ESBR pretty damn easy.
UI Bumku never saved me he stay eating AAs and it's like fxck he took so much damage the rest of the units aren't allowed to take damage I had to bench that bum for AGL Transforming Goku
Bro capping for kale/caulifla but says ui is a bum💀💀💀💀💀
@@vinsalith mid off
@@mruptownK dokkan a mid game anyways, blox fruits>
@@vinsalith blasphemy
@@vinsalith bloxs fruit bruh??? i like blox fruits but dokkan way better at the end of the day leave lil child
I have Namek Goku at 55% and that man stacks defense fast as long as you miss his 18ki
You're putting him in Slot 1 in long events right?
Don't know why, but the like the stuttery card art. Makes them feel more, I guess authentic? If that's the right word.
LR Teq Super 17 is one of my favorite units at 69%. He's dope
"The 6 year lrs have 0 ki links" they literally both have 2 of the best ki links in the game.
You know... LR Super 17's Ki mechanic shouldn't have a cap since it's not guranteed
Love these vids so much
Man I heard someone on another channel say agl trunks is one of the worst dfes and apparently he can’t come out of the gates with good damage or defense yet apparently kale and cauliflas dfe is apparently really solid with defense and offense right away I personally disagree with that idea
I love how androids went from a meh category to the behemoth it is now