Hot take, Truth doesn't project himself on the Dokkan community. The community warps his opinions. Prime example, Truth thought Str Goku from Goku/Gohan was underwhelming, and many people took that idea and ran with it to say he thought Goku was bad. Among more use Goku is really good, and now people think Truth said he was bad when that isn't the case. Units end up underrated/overhated primarily through this way
@@czar17_28 his only correct hot take is « units that don’t do anything but tank should have full dodge » Then the rest of his opinions are just basic stuff/common sense
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 if all a unit does it tank why not make them as defensive as possible and give them dodge? Why give them crit if they do low damage? Additionals can be acceptable at times though
My own take: TEQ God Goku is the best EZA TUR I feel his sheer utility in his damage reduction against most of the game (including half of the red zone and the hardest fight in the red zone) the rainbow orb changing, the good Saiyan linkset, good teams, the sealing, everything just means he will never EVER age from the purpose he has now
I don't know. It's just so hard to rank this guy because of how "restricted" his DR is. I say restricted but it really is against the most difficult enemies in the game. Outside of the GT Bosses red zone stages (excluding the first few because they're much easier so you can get away with using him to support your LR Gods) He really doesn't even need his damage reduction anyway. Even in content where he might get exposed like ESBR, the LR Gods are going to carry and he's sealing so he can protect himself that way. I feel like if you really wanted to you could argue him above maybe Turles because of how useful he is in the hardest stage in the game, but I think I'd put AGL Vegeta above him because he's also very good in ALL of the Redzone and by default, pretty much everywhere else too.
Speaking of tanking, I wonder how he would do against the str spirit bomb goku in the int ui goku stage, I remember someone using agl golden frieza and only made it to taking around 200-300k dmg or something with him, I wonder how much god goku would take that.
I don't know about that. Yeah he is incredibly good in stages that he is meant to be used in, but I don't know about him being the best EZA in the game.
37:00 no way mui goku is gonna age better. The problem with him is even though his dodge chance isn't gonna change, the rate at which damage is increasing just taking 2 normal attack will cost you like 400k health.
that is really bad take on UI since if you cancel dodge UI goku is a zero and the fact that the 7 years also can dodge after they transform ( ssj4s with sa counter and gods with medium chance and rainbow orbs) they both do like 4 times the dmg and def anyway. Not to mention you can carry a nuke in your pocket.
The aging of UI Goku depends entirely on how much they want to spam dodge cancelation for future difficult bosses. If they're like every fight except Broly, he'll be fine. If they're like the Fighting Legend events, he will not be good going forward.
MUI is gonna age really bad. I think the worst part of him is that he has literally no defense before dodging the first hit. If he gets hit by anything you either lose half your health straight up or just die.
even just adding a few slots for friend leads and not just one would help a lot, the friend system is so easy to make better it's embarrassing that they haven't.
i think both of them are overrated. i think they're good in difficult events but they're defense falls short most of the time even after transforming. ultimately i think STR Vegito is better becsuse i can never get Teq Gogeta's transformation
@@avez both are overrated I definitely agree. I especially hate teq gogeta but think hes better solely because of his higher defense. Hurts to day but imo teq gogeta has overtaken his spot after half a year
Hot take : truth ruined majin vegetas perspective and influenced the beginning of the slander. Just cuz he's not built like truth wants him to be built doesn't mean he's underwhelming Edit: for the people saying his wonky links/bad design just think how ginyu links with frieza characters or how kid buu links with teq vegito. You build a team that works together and links together. Very few characters are able to just be thrown on random teams
All they had to do is give the man 2-3 ki I'm his passive or just not restrict his orb changing. I like running his team but those are my problems with him
Underwhelming is basically what I'd call him. He's not bad but he's wonky as all hell. His links suck, He needs a trunks, He's orb hungry and only changes orbs himself conditionally, and type changing isn't as effective as rainbow orb changing and he's not the busted slot one tank everyone makes him out to be because he gets half his def on super. He's not awful but he is terribly designed. He never should've needed a trunks. he should have PfB or Saiyan lineage, And he shouldve rainbow orb changed unconditionally
My hot take is that Dokkan's power creep is too fast and that makes it less fun. I never liked harder content in Dokkan since there's too much RNG involved and units get rotated out arbitrarily, but Red Zone kicked it up to a disgusting degree, now good units from months before the 7th anniversary aren't even considered viable because of it. Previous anniversaries didn't do this shit to this degree.
I mean your right and wrong. Just because units aren't good in red zone don't make them bad or unusable. Litteraly the next piece of hardest content is ssj2 sbr where only one unit on the category is good in red zone. Red zone is meant for 2022 dokhan fest lrs which isnt a bad thing. The problem arises when ignorant people like truth expect them to massively lower the diffuclt by making f2p units stomp it.
you‘re right but dokkan definitely did slow down with powercreep after the anniversary. i mean what unit did they released that you could say without question is better then ss3, kid buu and the androids
Hot take: Un-friending people for how they build certain units is valid (someone on my friends list has STR super Vegeta built with full crit in hidden potential).
honestly these are some of the best videos you've made imo, i enjoy listening to you give your opinions on units and such that you dont really touch on in normal videos
Is it wrong that I want a DFE Hercule? Like he could be a more busted Videl 😂 MBS, Saviors, World Tournament, Earthlings, Final Trump Card. He could either be a solo character or exchange. Basically a premium version of Agl Hercule & Buu
@@V..v..V he could have an awful link set in exchange for a bomb support passive. Make him have a high or great chance to dodge on top of tankiness (he took a punch from Kid Buu and a slap Perfect Cell and didn't die somehow).
6:24 While this would be nice, how would they handle a unit like Int MVP 17 and Reps of Universe 7? Would they be on Goku Family, Vegeta Family, Pure Sayians, Androids, Wicked Bloodline, etc.
Yeah that’s true but I feel like it’s kind of a niche situation since most units that are joined forces are at most 2-3 units so I don’t think it would be that big of a deal
No, because his name is "Android 17 (Team Universe 7)" and not "Android 17, Super Saiyan God SS Goku, Super Saiyan God SS Vegeta, Ultimate Gohan and Golden Frieza (Angel)"
You actually have to either be stupid or not play the game to say that PHY VB was overrated when his EZA released. Dude could super attack 4 times and greatly raise his defense and attack while doing insane damage with those attack and his counters if your crit is high. All of that on top of damage reduction on normal attacks. He was insane on his release and by far the best EZA at the time and he can STILL decimate sbrs and maybe even esbrs if you smartly use him and get a bit lucky with his super attacks. Sure he won't be good in red zone or the god event but his eza released more than 2 years ago.
The LGE was the hardest stage when he dropped, he destroyed the final phase of that lol, anyone who says he was bad on release loses the right to discuss units
@@aetherialbeing4223 I agree. I just can't even take PHY VB slander seriously. After his EZA he was godly on any sbr you can use him on, on lge he would destroy the final phase. Sure he aged but he'd been incredible for so long it doesn't even matter. And you an still make a good use out of him for esbr and sbr
@@aetherialbeing4223 people forget that sbr was just as hard as LGE lmao not to mention that there were hundreds of units that dominated lge but not sbr
Here's a hot take a guess. Events canceling dodge is one of the most unfair thing Dokkan has ever started doing, not because its annoying to the players but it's unfair to units like AGL UI Goku and makes them harder to rank because there's events where they're God and events where they're garbage. Every unit in the game is going to struggle if you disable half of their kit. Imagine they make an event that disables damage reduction, or disables DEF Raising on super, or disables Gaurd. I know that in the RED Zone they wanted you to not be able to cheese it with Teq Caulifla but what they should've done is just ban her from the event like they did the nuke leads from the God Event.
Yeah I have zero clue as to why everyone thinks just ban dodging is an easy way to make an event more enjoyable. It literally just makes it not fun to run certain characters. I cab always beat any even with a crazy hybrid saiyan team but how is that fun.
Hot take, the unit super attack is actually a horrible mechanic. A unit super attack makes a unit worse, e.g int cabba, why can't he just stack attack and defense instead of restricting that to a unit super attack?
Idk man, INT MV's has been nothing but giving me W's. He's obv not better than SSJ3 Goku, kid buu, cell, or str gohan. But he's still VERY good. With just 3 orbs he can tank Broly and Omega more than most units in the game. He hits 7-8mil ATK stat when HP is 88% or below, which is very common. One of the most dominant slot 1 unit. Every time i use him, all he does is be a monster
2 minutes in and there’s already a take about Videl being trash… she was pretty much the best TUR in the game for a few months and dominated the hardest events at the time (god event, esbr, even the longer events), plus, at least for me, she was genuinely a hype character tho I understand not many people have her as best girl from dragon ball
I don't know what's up with this community but they refuse to acknowledge how busted some of the female units are. It reminds of K&C where people hated them for being the best unit in the game.
Most of these people don't know what a "hot" take is, a lot of these are very obvious opinions that most would agree on so please next time you consider posting think "am I the ONLY one who might think this?"
I truely think that this is the best way to earn video money after shaft, becuz u don’t actually have to look at the screen to fully now what’s happening, and it’s more of a relaxing video to listen before sleep i guess, don’t mind getting these videos everyday
it annoys me so much when people evaluate units with items in mind, its so god damn frustrating, because every unit in the game can tank omega shenrons super attack with items, its not impressive, i literally do not care how a unit tanks with items when were comparing them to others. its like if i said "int majin vegetas damage isnt great" and then someone says "well you can just use nuking items to make him hit hard so its not a problem"
Items are a part of the game and will be used for most scenarios. Offensive items aren't really considered since they aren't nearly as good as defensive items. I consider units with items in mind since that's a likely scenario they'll be in.
@@kelphefty2900 you’re missing my point entirely. It doesn’t matter if offensive items are worse, I can still make int majin vegeta a Fucking crazy offensive unit with items, does that mean he’s good offensively? No. I can make Str SSBKK goku a god defensively, does that mean he’s a good unit? No. Judging units with items in mind is just dumb, and the only reason people do it is to make their favorite bad units look good because they don’t like it when people point out they’re bad.
@@thebiggestcarl i mean it depends on the event as well. Esbr is item spam anyways so its fine. Obviously you don't judge them with only items, but it is something to take note of. If I were to take someone to red zone, and someone else said "oh aoe broly will kill them" I'd argue that I'd just item broly anyways, since that's an average scenario
@@kelphefty2900 why would you specify the aoe on broly? That’s so weird because fucking everybody gets rolled by that stage lol. If we’re judging units with items in mind then I guess we should just never mention their defensive ability because with items units won’t take damage.
Gobros when they eza gonna smack some cheeks bro. like 158% start of turn, building up an additional 158%, and greatly raising attack and DEF gonna make them the LR version str kid buu
I actually can’t believe someone said gohan vs cell is one of the worst final arc fights. That whole fight is still one of my favourite fight and arc till day (favourite arc Goku black come on😌)
truth u should give phy gogeta full dodge, with 27 dodge he’ll be at 30%+(70%x27%)= 48.9% chance to dodge (based on probability, i can explain the math if needed) and for 3 turns after transformation he’ll be at 50% + (50%x27%) = 63.5% chance to dodge. u might want to consider this to make him feel safer since his defence is still garbage even after double supering and since u wont be running him against broly regardless
Saying Raditz is worse than even videl currently could still be debated. Dude hits like a wet towel and has to super first to be better than videl defensively
The biggest shaft on global is that we only have like a month and a half to save for WWD celebration. So a good strat would be to get at least one of the anniversary units and then just save and use tickets to try to get the second one
It fixes a big issue of no one ever running certain units, now only you need one, which also promotes summoning and more money for dokkan. not to mention whales are the big spenders, of course they want to please them lol
Yes it will for the most part. If you can use your own unit as a friend then you don't have to worry about other people not having a character or not setting a character you need as their friend lead.
24:06 Actually Gobros are on a 200% Leader skill. Gobros have the the category Movie Heroes and Kamehameha. The gods give 200% to movie heroes and Kamehameha
I have a feeling this is a big disconnect between the players and Truth is that maybe a lot of people just don't play Red Zone or the Battle Roads. They'd rather play normal events maybe the Legendary events because those are the only ones I see people going for. Personally, I absolutely hate the SBRs and ESBRs, they're so stupidly difficult, and adding on Dokkan's RNG just makes them so unfun to play.
SBR is fun if you have the right units,but yeah red zone and ESBR are absolutely not Can't wait for the next hard event to cancel guard and nullify all your stacks
We said the same thing when the Legendary Events dropped tbh, and even they have some RNG to them If Vegeta or Full Power SSJ4 supers your weak unit it's over
In like the first 10 minutes of this video someone mentioned of skipping the 7th anniversary on global. I just cannot fathom what kind of substances these people are on when they say this because there is literally no unit in the game right now that competes with Gogeta or the Gods and I honestly dont think that the WWC is going to make units better than them at best they will be on the same level. No way in hell am I skipping the Monke god especially since I have none of the featured units rainbowed.
27:37 I have to admit that I’m surprised that FGO blocked Dokkan. Mostly because the event was HORRIBLY WRITEN and A LOT of JP players hated it. Well People mostly summon first and then read the event later.
I still would like to see category tier list, doesn't have to be every single one. Probably like 10 or 15 I feel like Truth says a lot of categories are dead which I agree with but I feel like a lot are runnable and strong.
The meta of the game had made people look at units only as tools and not as characters to try and have fun, if it isn’t good for everything people are upset
The only reason buuhan has aged more than str vegito is because unlike vegito, he doesn’t have a 7/7 links partner anywhere on the same level as teq gogeta
Str Vegito's better than Teq Gogita in Red Zone. People argue that Teq Gogeta's better than Str Vegito with Red zone because when they transform, Gogeta has way better defense. While that's true it doesn't mean shit because you'll almost never get Gogeta's condition unless you get it early in the fight, where he'll lose he dmg reduction making him even more shitty defensively than Vegito because he can't see supers. They're also the same unit in base so Str Vegito's just better. Sure you have to hide Vegito but at least he has the option to transfom and heal you, (unlike fucking Gogeta).
As a global player My biggest hot take is the power creep that is coming with the 7th year anniversary!!💯💯😱 spent about 1,500 stones on banners like teq Gogeta, LR iNT ssj goku and LR full power frieza, lr Phy janemba, Phy ssj3 goku and str kid buu, got NOTHING. And half of them isn’t even gonna be viable in events like the red zone once the 7 year anniversary comes so I’m just like fml I should’ve saved 💯💯💯
I still don't know why they made that Broly, Cheelai and Lemo Extreme class Like yeah Broly was the big bad of the movie but that card is clearly them after the movie, when they aren't in the frieza force anymore and are vaguely friendly with Goku On god, if that unit was Super class they could cook on a Super class team with any number of Super class orb changers to back them up
31:15. There's no case to be made, ginyu is easily number 3. Just because units are TURs doesn't mean that they are worse than LRs anymore. I'd say n1 and 2 are both the 7 year LRs and then its basically full TURS. You did say redzone is basically the only thing that matters rn and you've barely ever used kaioken goku in there. The androids, cell, ginyu, goku/gohan, teq gohan are all used more and perform so much better than all the top LRs rn except for the anniversary duos
@@joshjones2927 fail to see how a unit that has 70% dodge is a "skill" issue but sure YOURE right. YOURE opinion clearly supercedes mine which is based on personal experience but sure... YOURE right
Everyone, including me, get mad when UI Goku kills a run because he doesn't dodge, but most of the time he carries your run by dodging. 70% chance to dodge is still a very useful ability because you have a 70% chance of negating damage entirely. The only thing I have against him is nowadays there are a handful of events that cancel dodge
Or its because most of the stuff they do, they aren't always doing. Their 3 main strengths is healing from teq orbs, ki blast nullification, and the ghost usher. The ghost usher is once per fight so that's a main part of their kit that's not active for most of the fight unlike something like ginyu, goku's, and cells massive damage. Not all villans have ki blast supers and the androids are not guaranteed to even be supered meaning that part of their kit could never come into play. Teq orb healing is rng in not only the amount but even if you needed it as you could be at full health. Every single turn, kid buu, goku, cell, and ginyu are putting down massive guaranteed value while the androids aren't. You can have turns where they are godly and other turs can't do what they do but you can also say that about super sayain 3 goku and ginyu but I digress. Personally I have the andorids 3 to 5 in terms of placement but its clear why some people dont have them that high
@@Inviabledude45 Literally Any Other Tur Can Be As Inconsistent as they are Kid Buu Could get a Super and A Normal On one turn SSJ3 Could Do One super not crit and do only normals and Ginyu Could Do A Super and One Normal So The Androids Of That Group Being The Only one That Can Be inconsistant Is a Reason Why i say this people act as if all Other Turs are Flawless But when it comes to the androids They have 100 Faults BS
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Hot take, Truth doesn't project himself on the Dokkan community. The community warps his opinions. Prime example, Truth thought Str Goku from Goku/Gohan was underwhelming, and many people took that idea and ran with it to say he thought Goku was bad. Among more use Goku is really good, and now people think Truth said he was bad when that isn't the case. Units end up underrated/overhated primarily through this way
Truth is right a majority of the time tbh.
Facts
@@czar17_28 his only correct hot take is « units that don’t do anything but tank should have full dodge »
Then the rest of his opinions are just basic stuff/common sense
Touch grass dude
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 if all a unit does it tank why not make them as defensive as possible and give them dodge? Why give them crit if they do low damage? Additionals can be acceptable at times though
My own take:
TEQ God Goku is the best EZA TUR
I feel his sheer utility in his damage reduction against most of the game (including half of the red zone and the hardest fight in the red zone) the rainbow orb changing, the good Saiyan linkset, good teams, the sealing, everything just means he will never EVER age from the purpose he has now
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I don't know. It's just so hard to rank this guy because of how "restricted" his DR is. I say restricted but it really is against the most difficult enemies in the game. Outside of the GT Bosses red zone stages (excluding the first few because they're much easier so you can get away with using him to support your LR Gods) He really doesn't even need his damage reduction anyway. Even in content where he might get exposed like ESBR, the LR Gods are going to carry and he's sealing so he can protect himself that way. I feel like if you really wanted to you could argue him above maybe Turles because of how useful he is in the hardest stage in the game, but I think I'd put AGL Vegeta above him because he's also very good in ALL of the Redzone and by default, pretty much everywhere else too.
Agreed
Speaking of tanking, I wonder how he would do against the str spirit bomb goku in the int ui goku stage, I remember someone using agl golden frieza and only made it to taking around 200-300k dmg or something with him, I wonder how much god goku would take that.
I don't know about that. Yeah he is incredibly good in stages that he is meant to be used in, but I don't know about him being the best EZA in the game.
37:00 no way mui goku is gonna age better. The problem with him is even though his dodge chance isn't gonna change, the rate at which damage is increasing just taking 2 normal attack will cost you like 400k health.
that is really bad take on UI since if you cancel dodge UI goku is a zero and the fact that the 7 years also can dodge after they transform ( ssj4s with sa counter and gods with medium chance and rainbow orbs) they both do like 4 times the dmg and def anyway. Not to mention you can carry a nuke in your pocket.
The aging of UI Goku depends entirely on how much they want to spam dodge cancelation for future difficult bosses. If they're like every fight except Broly, he'll be fine. If they're like the Fighting Legend events, he will not be good going forward.
MUI is gonna age really bad. I think the worst part of him is that he has literally no defense before dodging the first hit. If he gets hit by anything you either lose half your health straight up or just die.
That's how much he takes from normals in current events now though
mui goku soon to be teq candy vegito level
As an FGO player, adding friend units for each type is a good start to fix the friend system. It will work, fgo has more classes than dokkan has types
This is true, imagine how bad it would be if We got locked to sharing 1 Servant.
very good point actually, would add more value to each friend, and also make having whale friends more important
true, i got carried by friends so much for a while cause each friend gave me so many options
even just adding a few slots for friend leads and not just one would help a lot, the friend system is so easy to make better it's embarrassing that they haven't.
What's fgo
I agree with you about the LR Gobros they definitely need a EZA that helps them raise their defense 💯
They might EZA during SUPER HERO celebration because of them being both a movie hero and hybrid saiyan
@@NOVA-BEAST They could also do it for Goku day.
what does EZA mean?
@@soup9191 Extreme z awakening.
What I got from these two parts is that almost
everyone hates Vegito, probably Gogeta stans.
i think both of them are overrated. i think they're good in difficult events but they're defense falls short most of the time even after transforming. ultimately i think STR Vegito is better becsuse i can never get Teq Gogeta's transformation
@@avez both are overrated I definitely agree. I especially hate teq gogeta but think hes better solely because of his higher defense. Hurts to day but imo teq gogeta has overtaken his spot after half a year
You should judge dodging characters based on Omega because it's impractical to bring them into broly.
These type of videos are a nice break from the similar type of content you post.
keep these coming!!
Hot take : truth ruined majin vegetas perspective and influenced the beginning of the slander. Just cuz he's not built like truth wants him to be built doesn't mean he's underwhelming
Edit: for the people saying his wonky links/bad design just think how ginyu links with frieza characters or how kid buu links with teq vegito. You build a team that works together and links together. Very few characters are able to just be thrown on random teams
Nope he’s mid
All they had to do is give the man 2-3 ki I'm his passive or just not restrict his orb changing.
I like running his team but those are my problems with him
@@trapwitme5384 how so?
Like I’m actually what way lol
@@trapwitme5384 You’re high
Underwhelming is basically what I'd call him. He's not bad but he's wonky as all hell. His links suck, He needs a trunks, He's orb hungry and only changes orbs himself conditionally, and type changing isn't as effective as rainbow orb changing and he's not the busted slot one tank everyone makes him out to be because he gets half his def on super. He's not awful but he is terribly designed. He never should've needed a trunks. he should have PfB or Saiyan lineage, And he shouldve rainbow orb changed unconditionally
Truth please do these every like 4-5 months, it's such banger videos
My hot take is that Dokkan's power creep is too fast and that makes it less fun. I never liked harder content in Dokkan since there's too much RNG involved and units get rotated out arbitrarily, but Red Zone kicked it up to a disgusting degree, now good units from months before the 7th anniversary aren't even considered viable because of it. Previous anniversaries didn't do this shit to this degree.
I mean your right and wrong.
Just because units aren't good in red zone don't make them bad or unusable. Litteraly the next piece of hardest content is ssj2 sbr where only one unit on the category is good in red zone. Red zone is meant for 2022 dokhan fest lrs which isnt a bad thing. The problem arises when ignorant people like truth expect them to massively lower the diffuclt by making f2p units stomp it.
Nah it’s perfectly fine any f2p player can do it with 55% team. Can’t expect everything in the game to be easy
you‘re right but dokkan definitely did slow down with powercreep after the anniversary. i mean what unit did they released that you could say without question is better then ss3, kid buu and the androids
Don’t play then
Unfortunately this is a gacha game so fast pwoer creep, less fun, and RNG will always be staples
Makes you wonder why we play them lol
"character X is underated/overrated" are kinda dumb takes.
Depending on your box certain units value will go up and down.
Holy shit someone actually said it
Hot take: Un-friending people for how they build certain units is valid (someone on my friends list has STR super Vegeta built with full crit in hidden potential).
how is that a hot take wth do you need help... Hot takes are actually unpopular what you're saying is just common sense
The only reason I have any positive opinion on super 17, despite not having him, is that he helped me a lot going past stage 40 in the ssj4 eza
honestly these are some of the best videos you've made imo, i enjoy listening to you give your opinions on units and such that you dont really touch on in normal videos
He reviews literally every unit in the game.
I love how ginyu, ssj3 goku, teq androids, agl cell, kid buu, str goku/gohan are all so close in power. You could argue each one of them as number 1
Jeez these takes are hotter then the sun's core
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you havent even Watched the Video. Imagine fishing for likes U sad f💀
Watch the fucking video
@Zyperium 最後の希望をトランクス Hotter than the Scorching hot 6000° of Nuova Shenron.
Is it wrong that I want a DFE Hercule? Like he could be a more busted Videl 😂 MBS, Saviors, World Tournament, Earthlings, Final Trump Card. He could either be a solo character or exchange. Basically a premium version of Agl Hercule & Buu
@@V..v..V he could have an awful link set in exchange for a bomb support passive. Make him have a high or great chance to dodge on top of tankiness (he took a punch from Kid Buu and a slap Perfect Cell and didn't die somehow).
6:24 While this would be nice, how would they handle a unit like Int MVP 17 and Reps of Universe 7? Would they be on Goku Family, Vegeta Family, Pure Sayians, Androids, Wicked Bloodline, etc.
Yeah that’s true but I feel like it’s kind of a niche situation since most units that are joined forces are at most 2-3 units so I don’t think it would be that big of a deal
still would only be usable on the 1 team anyway though lol
Yes
No, because his name is "Android 17 (Team Universe 7)" and not "Android 17, Super Saiyan God SS Goku, Super Saiyan God SS Vegeta, Ultimate Gohan and Golden Frieza (Angel)"
My take: People start calling a TUR mid the moment it leaves the top 10 best tur list.
facts
I mean that’s kinda what mid means. They aren’t the best anymore but they aren’t the worst.
@@rdyupgamingYeah but the problem is everyone uses "mid" to call a unit trash nowadays.
@@rdyupgaming i wish people were smart enough to know that, but sadly, they aren't.
You actually have to either be stupid or not play the game to say that PHY VB was overrated when his EZA released. Dude could super attack 4 times and greatly raise his defense and attack while doing insane damage with those attack and his counters if your crit is high. All of that on top of damage reduction on normal attacks. He was insane on his release and by far the best EZA at the time and he can STILL decimate sbrs and maybe even esbrs if you smartly use him and get a bit lucky with his super attacks. Sure he won't be good in red zone or the god event but his eza released more than 2 years ago.
The LGE was the hardest stage when he dropped, he destroyed the final phase of that lol, anyone who says he was bad on release loses the right to discuss units
@@aetherialbeing4223 I agree. I just can't even take PHY VB slander seriously. After his EZA he was godly on any sbr you can use him on, on lge he would destroy the final phase. Sure he aged but he'd been incredible for so long it doesn't even matter. And you an still make a good use out of him for esbr and sbr
@@aetherialbeing4223 people forget that sbr was just as hard as LGE lmao not to mention that there were hundreds of units that dominated lge but not sbr
@@beckyg5952 nah Ik, Vegito was good in both lol, the man was nuts
Ill be damned if i skip anniversary. I want those super saiyan gods
love this type of content!
Would really love to see some videos where you react to some of the community's memes
Hot take: every Dokkan content creator overuse, " ___ is the best unit in the game"
Agreed, we hear this every other Dokkan fest
@@pimpinrain6523 yea it's kinda annoying how people also nit pic other people's play preferences to
Here's a hot take a guess. Events canceling dodge is one of the most unfair thing Dokkan has ever started doing, not because its annoying to the players but it's unfair to units like AGL UI Goku and makes them harder to rank because there's events where they're God and events where they're garbage. Every unit in the game is going to struggle if you disable half of their kit. Imagine they make an event that disables damage reduction, or disables DEF Raising on super, or disables Gaurd. I know that in the RED Zone they wanted you to not be able to cheese it with Teq Caulifla but what they should've done is just ban her from the event like they did the nuke leads from the God Event.
Yeah I have zero clue as to why everyone thinks just ban dodging is an easy way to make an event more enjoyable. It literally just makes it not fun to run certain characters. I cab always beat any even with a crazy hybrid saiyan team but how is that fun.
Hot take, the unit super attack is actually a horrible mechanic. A unit super attack makes a unit worse, e.g int cabba, why can't he just stack attack and defense instead of restricting that to a unit super attack?
because fun new animations
It's okay so far as long as they share a goof category and links and stuff like goku and satan sucks duh to both having a dumb requirement
Idk man, INT MV's has been nothing but giving me W's. He's obv not better than SSJ3 Goku, kid buu, cell, or str gohan. But he's still VERY good. With just 3 orbs he can tank Broly and Omega more than most units in the game. He hits 7-8mil ATK stat when HP is 88% or below, which is very common. One of the most dominant slot 1 unit. Every time i use him, all he does is be a monster
2 minutes in and there’s already a take about Videl being trash…
she was pretty much the best TUR in the game for a few months and dominated the hardest events at the time (god event, esbr, even the longer events), plus, at least for me, she was genuinely a hype character tho I understand not many people have her as best girl from dragon ball
i dont understand how videl can be hype to anyone, but if you like her that much i guess thats up to you
Was never crazy about her but i gotta admit, her active skill is adorable
@@brassbeast8582 Nah Videl defo more hype that Gogeta (totally)
I don't know what's up with this community but they refuse to acknowledge how busted some of the female units are. It reminds of K&C where people hated them for being the best unit in the game.
@@joshjones2927 real
My take
We didn't need more Cell Saga Units now
Most of these people don't know what a "hot" take is, a lot of these are very obvious opinions that most would agree on so please next time you consider posting think "am I the ONLY one who might think this?"
I truely think that this is the best way to earn video money after shaft, becuz u don’t actually have to look at the screen to fully now what’s happening, and it’s more of a relaxing video to listen before sleep i guess, don’t mind getting these videos everyday
Hot Take: Pan should be on Peppy Gals
"Cell is lame cause Gohan just one shots him" from dude with android 13 pfp lmao
I love these community videos
Truth hate Majin Vegeta so much, it is actually absurd.
23:24 “they don’t have access to 200%.”
There on movie heroes and kamehameha team of LR god goku and vegeta
19:46 THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM
also after I made the Tier List I would put Androids over Kid Buu but those 6 are the gods of the game
Sometimes when reading those tweets, I feel like we don't play the same game. It's unbelievable
it annoys me so much when people evaluate units with items in mind, its so god damn frustrating, because every unit in the game can tank omega shenrons super attack with items, its not impressive, i literally do not care how a unit tanks with items when were comparing them to others. its like if i said "int majin vegetas damage isnt great" and then someone says "well you can just use nuking items to make him hit hard so its not a problem"
Items are a part of the game and will be used for most scenarios. Offensive items aren't really considered since they aren't nearly as good as defensive items. I consider units with items in mind since that's a likely scenario they'll be in.
@@kelphefty2900 you’re missing my point entirely. It doesn’t matter if offensive items are worse, I can still make int majin vegeta a Fucking crazy offensive unit with items, does that mean he’s good offensively? No.
I can make Str SSBKK goku a god defensively, does that mean he’s a good unit? No.
Judging units with items in mind is just dumb, and the only reason people do it is to make their favorite bad units look good because they don’t like it when people point out they’re bad.
@@thebiggestcarl i mean it depends on the event as well. Esbr is item spam anyways so its fine. Obviously you don't judge them with only items, but it is something to take note of. If I were to take someone to red zone, and someone else said "oh aoe broly will kill them" I'd argue that I'd just item broly anyways, since that's an average scenario
@@kelphefty2900 why would you specify the aoe on broly? That’s so weird because fucking everybody gets rolled by that stage lol. If we’re judging units with items in mind then I guess we should just never mention their defensive ability because with items units won’t take damage.
Idea, would be cool to see a top 10-15 most underrated units of all time vid.
Gobros when they eza gonna smack some cheeks bro. like 158% start of turn, building up an additional 158%, and greatly raising attack and DEF gonna make them the LR version str kid buu
Hot take, Dokkan is far more complex than a "bubble popping game".
Cold take
Yeah, you have to pop bubbles AND move characters left and right, very complex
@@bobkys7916 L description + Underestimating the other aspects of the game
@@bobkys7916 SBR, RedZone, Team building, Haikaishin event, managing resources that aren't farmable, I can keep going.
I actually can’t believe someone said gohan vs cell is one of the worst final arc fights. That whole fight is still one of my favourite fight and arc till day (favourite arc Goku black come on😌)
Wasnt really a fight tbh, it was an absolute massacre so I see where they’re coming from.
Goku vs Cell >> Gohan vs Cell
truth u should give phy gogeta full dodge, with 27 dodge he’ll be at 30%+(70%x27%)= 48.9% chance to dodge (based on probability, i can explain the math if needed) and for 3 turns after transformation he’ll be at 50% + (50%x27%) = 63.5% chance to dodge. u might want to consider this to make him feel safer since his defence is still garbage even after double supering and since u wont be running him against broly regardless
21:43 you'd be surprised about how many people can't understand this simple statement
My take: teq caulifla will continue to be relevant for a long time due to the 100% chance to dodge
23:38 Datruth happiest men alive
RZ has made evaluating units horrible, I have to see takes like “TEQ Gohan > INT Namek Goku” because of that stupid ass event
Honestly, I really don't get the "INT Nameku doesn't stack fast enough" thing
21:42 truths Canadian accent shining through
Technically you can just save every stone forever and not be making a bad choice....
Saying Raditz is worse than even videl currently could still be debated. Dude hits like a wet towel and has to super first to be better than videl defensively
The biggest shaft on global is that we only have like a month and a half to save for WWD celebration. So a good strat would be to get at least one of the anniversary units and then just save and use tickets to try to get the second one
i saved about 600 stones for WWD
I heard "save for Raditz"
Noted
Datruths solution to the friend system are biased by his whale perspective. Mirroring your lead won’t fix the problem
yea it will
What’s you’re solution then smart guy
It fixes a big issue of no one ever running certain units, now only you need one, which also promotes summoning and more money for dokkan. not to mention whales are the big spenders, of course they want to please them lol
Yes it will for the most part. If you can use your own unit as a friend then you don't have to worry about other people not having a character or not setting a character you need as their friend lead.
Mirroring your lead will resolve 99.9% of issues with the system so its worthwhile to do
24:06 Actually Gobros are on a 200% Leader skill. Gobros have the the category Movie Heroes and Kamehameha. The gods give 200% to movie heroes and Kamehameha
I have a feeling this is a big disconnect between the players and Truth is that maybe a lot of people just don't play Red Zone or the Battle Roads. They'd rather play normal events maybe the Legendary events because those are the only ones I see people going for. Personally, I absolutely hate the SBRs and ESBRs, they're so stupidly difficult, and adding on Dokkan's RNG just makes them so unfun to play.
Lol that is why I find them fun. Its kinda dumb tbh.
SBR is fun if you have the right units,but yeah red zone and ESBR are absolutely not
Can't wait for the next hard event to cancel guard and nullify all your stacks
I bet like only 10%-15% of Dokkan players actually do the Red Zone or even ESBR
We said the same thing when the Legendary Events dropped tbh, and even they have some RNG to them
If Vegeta or Full Power SSJ4 supers your weak unit it's over
Teq world tournament gohan is better than agl gohan for what people actually use him for, defence
I have learned that next time this happens, I need to wait a bit before posting my hot take, I was one of the first so it got buried
17:09 I stg these are the dudes who argue the most because you called STR Turles mid (btw he still is even with AGL turles eza)
In like the first 10 minutes of this video someone mentioned of skipping the 7th anniversary on global. I just cannot fathom what kind of substances these people are on when they say this because there is literally no unit in the game right now that competes with Gogeta or the Gods and I honestly dont think that the WWC is going to make units better than them at best they will be on the same level. No way in hell am I skipping the Monke god especially since I have none of the featured units rainbowed.
Just skip till 9th anniversary 😏
Knew mine would get buried…character space limit is ass. Int mv & agl trunks ssr art is better than their tur and they should’ve been swapped
Oh shit truth. I was just suggesting didn't think you'd do another. But hey more discussion.
Hot take: truth needs to chill out on the ads! I'm tryna listen to these videos while I'm at work and I'm stopping to skip ads every 3 minutes! Lol
I’m really tired and read the title as “hot cakes” instead of hot takes and got really confused.
27:37
I have to admit that I’m surprised that FGO blocked Dokkan.
Mostly because the event was HORRIBLY WRITEN and A LOT of JP players hated it.
Well People mostly summon first and then read the event later.
couldve been cuz of the Morgan rerun
We definitely need a 200% leaderskill video for phy future Gohan, esp in red zone...
Was using the Str Gohan and the guy was countering everytime i was like holy lucky
I still would like to see category tier list, doesn't have to be every single one. Probably like 10 or 15 I feel like Truth says a lot of categories are dead which I agree with but I feel like a lot are runnable and strong.
The meta of the game had made people look at units only as tools and not as characters to try and have fun, if it isn’t good for everything people are upset
LR TEQ Gohan & Goten are on a 200% leader skill, the LR Gods
Thumbnail is the next dfe
TEQ Gohan slams all the turs except Goku/Gohan and you can’t change my mind
Gonna have to revoke ur dokkan license for that one pal.
Gohan PFP stanning TEQ Ulthan, opinion revoked
@@dip.918 if Goku is your favorite character your opinion doesn’t count
LRsinz-_- that applies to gohan & vegeta fans too , all of y’all are insufferable & delusional lol
I would really like a PHY EZA VB vs Omega in the redzone showcase, i think he can do decent there
Man is having to much fun with this
The only reason buuhan has aged more than str vegito is because unlike vegito, he doesn’t have a 7/7 links partner anywhere on the same level as teq gogeta
Dokkan completely fucked up horribly when they did the 3rd yr LRs EZAs.... they could've changed the game AGAIN like they did when they released.
half of these comments are deadass just colder than ice, people need to learn the definition of a "hot take"
So many hot takes on Super 17, you may want to re-review him under 200% leader.
11:38 he recognizes GOAThan
bruh you just said toad's cat suit is a mix of him and sonic
“Looks like the WWC units are gonna be on the 7th anniversary banners.” HOW OLD IS THIS???
One of these every month would be cool as hell
i like these hot takes videos
Ah love to see my take was actually hot😭
Str Vegito's better than Teq Gogita in Red Zone.
People argue that Teq Gogeta's better than Str Vegito with Red zone because when they transform, Gogeta has way better defense. While that's true it doesn't mean shit because you'll almost never get Gogeta's condition unless you get it early in the fight, where he'll lose he dmg reduction making him even more shitty defensively than Vegito because he can't see supers. They're also the same unit in base so Str Vegito's just better. Sure you have to hide Vegito but at least he has the option to transfom and heal you, (unlike fucking Gogeta).
Videl is better than super Vegeta, her being so restricted is the only reason I could see why anyone would have Vegeta over her.
Vegeta at 55 is so cheeks it’s awful
Facts she was the best TUR up until the teq androids and ssj3 goku released.
@@Z48654 the GT boys are better I would say and maybe agl Kid Gohan/ Teq Gohan
I love these vids
Hot take, Truth makes someone actively punch him in the nads every time he mocks someone and uses the whiny voice.
I love listening to truth clowning on people with the worst takes
As a global player My biggest hot take is the power creep that is coming with the 7th year anniversary!!💯💯😱 spent about 1,500 stones on banners like teq Gogeta, LR iNT ssj goku and LR full power frieza, lr Phy janemba, Phy ssj3 goku and str kid buu, got NOTHING. And half of them isn’t even gonna be viable in events like the red zone once the 7 year anniversary comes so I’m just like fml I should’ve saved 💯💯💯
When it comes to the worst Dokkanfest unit it's SSJ3 Broly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Raditz .
EZA LR Gohan and EZA LR Cell ideal coming would be on WWC.
I still don't know why they made that Broly, Cheelai and Lemo Extreme class
Like yeah Broly was the big bad of the movie but that card is clearly them after the movie, when they aren't in the frieza force anymore and are vaguely friendly with Goku
On god, if that unit was Super class they could cook on a Super class team with any number of Super class orb changers to back them up
Year 1 was worst celebration because they dropped the rates without telling anyone.
31:15. There's no case to be made, ginyu is easily number 3. Just because units are TURs doesn't mean that they are worse than LRs anymore. I'd say n1 and 2 are both the 7 year LRs and then its basically full TURS. You did say redzone is basically the only thing that matters rn and you've barely ever used kaioken goku in there. The androids, cell, ginyu, goku/gohan, teq gohan are all used more and perform so much better than all the top LRs rn except for the anniversary duos
ngl... i think agl ui goku is trash too
Ive lost difficult events multiple times cuz he failed to dodge
Skill Issue
@@joshjones2927 fail to see how a unit that has 70% dodge is a "skill" issue but sure
YOURE right. YOURE opinion clearly supercedes mine which is based on personal experience but sure... YOURE right
Everyone, including me, get mad when UI Goku kills a run because he doesn't dodge, but most of the time he carries your run by dodging. 70% chance to dodge is still a very useful ability because you have a 70% chance of negating damage entirely. The only thing I have against him is nowadays there are a handful of events that cancel dodge
@@hyperazzy-5048 i must be in a percentile of shit rng when it comes to dodge then
@@Zeradias Twas a joke
Truth's random thumbnails are always about fusions or other dumb stuff lmao
Hot Take: People Try and Downplay The Teq Androids Because They are Scared That They Might Be better then All The Other Turs And Cant Admit it
Or its because most of the stuff they do, they aren't always doing.
Their 3 main strengths is healing from teq orbs, ki blast nullification, and the ghost usher.
The ghost usher is once per fight so that's a main part of their kit that's not active for most of the fight unlike something like ginyu, goku's, and cells massive damage.
Not all villans have ki blast supers and the androids are not guaranteed to even be supered meaning that part of their kit could never come into play.
Teq orb healing is rng in not only the amount but even if you needed it as you could be at full health.
Every single turn, kid buu, goku, cell, and ginyu are putting down massive guaranteed value while the androids aren't.
You can have turns where they are godly and other turs can't do what they do but you can also say that about super sayain 3 goku and ginyu but I digress. Personally I have the andorids 3 to 5 in terms of placement but its clear why some people dont have them that high
@@Inviabledude45 Literally Any Other Tur Can Be As Inconsistent as they are Kid Buu Could get a Super and A Normal On one turn SSJ3 Could Do One super not crit and do only normals and Ginyu Could Do A Super and One Normal So The Androids Of That Group Being The Only one That Can Be inconsistant Is a Reason Why i say this people act as if all Other Turs are Flawless But when it comes to the androids They have 100 Faults BS