The problem with tiki taka (and total football) is you need exceptional players to carry out this style of football, if you try it with average players it's a disaster
@Papery yeah you're right. Frenkie, De Ligt and Schone left the club. But even so they started very well. At one point though Neres, Ziyech, Promes, Blind and Veltman were all injuried. That's like 5 starting players, and club like Ajax doesn't have a strong enough bench to replace them
@MeOhYesMe play PES then. It's much more realistic and believe me, once you can dominate a game in PES or score a long shot, you'll never go back to FIFA.
2008-2012 was an amazing time to be a Barca fan. I had been a fan since 2002 just before Ronaldinho was signed and it has been a pleasure to see the blaugrana ascend the way they did. Conversely the Rosell/Bartomeu era has been the complete opposite. Watching all of that glory turn to dust under a stewardship that has turned its back on Cruyff and all the values he brought has been difficult. I really hope a new club president can be brought in who will bring back those values which brought Barca to the pinnacle of the game.
Since he recently passed away, maybe you guys could honor him and do a video on Radomir Antic, one of the two men who managed Atletico, Barcelona and Real Madrid. He was most successful at Atleti but his work at Barcelona is underrated as he set the frame for the team that will dominate in years to come.
@@matheus5230 it wasnt about declination , bayern were focused on relentless pressing , bayern didnt give time for passes and space to move the ball , they applied gegen pressing which klopp uses on another level , they knew only barcelona could have defeated them, their manager at that time i forgot his name was a cruyff follower too so he knew everything about total football. He knew that barca would have been better with possession due to players like xavi, iniesta and messi so he avoided having possession he went for gegen pressing which alows you to narrow the field as much as possible but the players should be well trained and fit for that thus u can see how many goals they scored as barca lost possession again and again , the 1vs1s were very difficult due to players like lahm, javi martinez and dante. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk :) .
I love how barca (and spain) literally changed football as it is, tiki taka is known as barcas playing style and every team tries to encorparate it to some extent into their teams. Its just amazing to see influence barca has had on how football is played and perceived
Always proud to say that this style of play originated from a Dutch football philosophy. And that Cruyff, Van Gaal and Rijkaard are still heralded at Barca for their influence on the club.
Yes, this began with Cruyff, Netherlands and the 'total football', one of the legendary teams in the history of football which, despite not having been champion, broke the mold with its football, like Hungary a few decades before.
@@sebastianstammer9265 Busquets is still brilliant Recently under Valverde with aeging Iniesta and Rakitic Busquets had to cover a lot of space and his abilities were limitedly utilized. He's still more press resistant, has still got vision to understand the dynamics of game and can still control tempo of game.
@L Maz Tiki taka was nearly impossible to defend against and it still is. The only team that ever managed to destroy tiki taka was Bayern. There's a video on this channel too about that.
Disappointing lack of mention of Dani Alves and Sergio Busquets who were both integral to Guardiola’s Barca side. People always talk about the brilliance of Xavi, Messi and Iniesta but rarely speak about how Guardiola also had arguably the greatest two way fullback of all time at his disposal as well.
Pep Guardiola's Barça was the best football I've ever seen in my life! They were glorious!
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I'm probably 2 years late but I find most of your channel timeless. Some people say you failed to mention Dani Alves or Busquets, I say Victor Valdés was the piece that many other teams miss when trying to recreate tiki-taka. He is a pioneer that will be recognized in time with a playstyle that only Ter Stegen can reproduce to an even higher level. Also, I'm happy that you remarked that possession is a means, not an end. It kind of is the catchphrase of Barça this season.
My understanding of tiki taka was moreso a style of play whereby passing draws out players, by consistently keeping and passing for example you could drag opposing players out of position thus creating open space and scoring opportunities.
That’s what it is it’s passing with a purpose and with players pressing when they don’t have the ball. Barcelona hasn’t done that since Tito Villanova passed away and Luis Enrique was close to it but not quite the style of play we were used to although it was still very entertaining and still orientated on attacking but with more direct possession football.
Yes, exactly, and that is what the video is saying. The main purpose is create open spaces in the oppositions half to exploit and score goals. Possession and passing are simply the means to an ends.
The tiki taka style is about not letting the opponent have possession. I hate Tiki Taka hahahaha. Its cruel. To beat Tiki Taka, just don't have any intention of getting the ball (a.k.a park the bus.) Tiki Taka is about playing with only our team so let them play by themselves hahahahahaha.
Amierul Aiziq not true if that was true teams like Newcastle, Burnley, Athletico Madrid, Getafe, etc would be beating Man City and Barcelona all the time:
Only if its played the right way. There are people that thinks its just having the ball and passing it with out any sense or intention, and that gets boring quickly
I remember always watching Barcelona games in their tiki taka prime and screaming at the screen, telling the opposition “watch out! You’re in a triangle!” But then I once played against a team that tried to emulate the tiki taka style and oh boy, playing against tiki taka kills you from the inside
Atinder Singh Bayern didn’t thrash it Barca’s manager was very ill and ended up dying and Messi had a hamstring issue so wasn’t entirely fit. Bayern beat a very weakened Barça team.
Atinder Singh a lot of you don’t know The Who story y’all just look at the scoreline and think it was because Bayern destroyed them more like Barca had many problems in that season
I’m curious why the video is addressing things in a certain manner. Here are some things that stood out to me, for example: 1 How this style of play has its origins in total football. (Briefly) Mentioning Cruyff and losing the chance to credit Michels. 2 Why(!) pressing is the optimal form of defense using 443 and its playing style -> A high line with attacking football will require immediate pressing as the first form of defense. 3. How this formation and this style revolves around triangles 4. Failing to properly credit Guardiola for his (tactical) influence in the Premier League. 5 Losing the opportunity to properly credit Ajax and it’s academy. These are just some examples. I’m just curious and want to know the thought patterns are behind choosing some words while refusing to use some others.
The video was informative. But didn't Pep Guardiola in the book 'Pep Confidential' say that "Barça don't do tika-taka. Tika-taka is just passing the ball with no real purpose"
Overloading one side of the pitch to create numerical superiorities on the other side. It involves passing and possession to achieve this. A common misconception.
Exactamundo! Tiki-taca is more a media term than anything else to sensationalize this method of playing. It’s not a true organic word to describe Positional Play, it’s a bastardization of the philosophy. great books highly recommend people read both of them
What about the Wengerball from early 00 to mid and late 00, when it was at its scintillating best and effective in terms of beautiful football and winning a game? As I started watching football back then that was my first introduction to possession based football and when Barca blew up (even more so than before) under Pep I thought others were evolving it and doing it too!
As a Canadian growing up in the Toronto area, having Spanish origins, as I teenager I witnessed Spain winning the world cup in 2010 and Arsenal playing throughout the 2000s. Now at 26, I think back to what were my big influences in football and it was indeed playing a lot of futsal as an adolescent and watching Cesc Fabregas at Arsenal and the Spanish national team. It's amazing how that style of play just transfixed me when I was younger... The sheer amount of passes done beautifully leading to a goal. Then it was players like Cazorla (who would forget that performance against Man. City) that captivated me. It's funny to think now about the Arsenal midfield with the likes of Özil, who indeed carried on that style of play somewhat, though I'm trying to pinpoint a particular moment when Arsenal stopped that playing of football.. It think it was quite late in Wenger career there when they started switching to a 4-2-3-1 that a lot of that was lost, with players like Xhaka, Elneny. I mean, Arsenal had Flamini to use as a defensive mid, but perhaps as their defence issues got worse since the 2010s, then the midfield started looking more defensive? What do people think?
Indeed Wenger was a pioneer of the passing game within England. I think formation and personnel prevented it from becoming full blown tiki-taka/Cruyff ball in the early 2000s. The Nasri/Fabregas/Wilshere days were a closer match and culminated in that famous victory over Barcelona. Perhaps ultimately what led to that later version not sweeping trophies was the lack of gamechangers as well as a lack of insistence on pressing
@@JDVRadio I'm curious to hear how they do in the coming years because they've certainly morphed under Arteta but how will that form ultimately manifest?
@@jamesportoraro8248 what Arteta is is a good coach. What Arsenal lack is good personnel. I think if they can keep Martinelli and blood a few more of the youngsters they can definitely be a top 4 team. If they can then go big in the transfer market nothing can stop them from challenging for the title
@@JDVRadio I agree Arteta is a good coach, I am really quite happy with him being there; thought my point is that it will take a season or two to get Arsenal to where he wants. I
Creo que no podría explicarse mejor. Vosotros las británicos, entre otras cosas, pusistes las reglas básicas, lo que permitió que la práctica del fútbol se extendiera por todo el planeta. Y hoy en día seguís contribuyendo decisivamente a su desarrollo teórico y práctico entre todos los que amamos este deporte. Muchas gracias desde España.
I think it could not be explained better. You British people set the basic rules for the global practice of football, among other things, and today you continue to contribute decisively to its theoretical and practical development among all of us who love this sport. Thank you very much from Spain.
1:44 that’s not the Catalan flag (Senyera). That’s the independence Catalan flag (Estelada). The difference is that the Catalan flag is only red and yellow and the independent one has a blue triangle and a white 5 point star that was taken as inspiration from the cuban flag.
@Derry Douglas In terms of income (what I assume you're basing 'success' on) he will achieve more success than over 95% of the worlds population will in their lifetimes. So yes, statistically there's a 19/20 chance he's more successful than anyone you come across in TH-cam. What was the point of your comment?
The C in “tocando” should be pronounced as a k. And there is no exact translation given that tiki-taka is an invented word that resembles quick passing between players. i.e. Xavi to Iniesta (thats the tiki) immediately followed by an Iniesta to Messi pass (thats the taka) so on and so forth. Its kind of like an onomatopoeia where tiki and taka resemble the sound of quick passes. Therefore, a more accurate translation would be “we are passing the ball in quick succession”
POintless POints what is it then? Andres Montes (caster) created the phrase and used it when the team had an outstanding possession of the ball and were passing it very quickly. I’m a native spanish speaker btw
When talking about well known teams inspired by tiki-taka I think you should also mention the german national squad around the time they won the world cup up until the world cup in russia. They might have played the style to the extreme as spain or barca did but they too had a strong focus on possession based football.
I heard of tiki-taka before as something related to a lot of pass but tifo made it very clear to me what it actually is which I may not understand even after reading a site for an hour. I never had this kind of coherent understanding of it's origin, strength and weakness. To be able to make it easy to understand for less intelligent person like myself is what I like about Tifo.
great video, and thanks for the insight. i didn’t quite understand positional play until i watched this video, so credits for throwing info about that in as well. stay safe and keep up the good work guys :D
Tifo, love your videos because of the amount of effort put into investigating topics, which leads to rarely making mistakes. Tiki-taka is a slang in the Spanish speaking world which means that something is working flawlessly. When Clemente said that the selección was playing tiki-taka, he meant that they were playing good. Passing, movement and possession oriented football in Spanish is called “fútbol del toque”, which its literal translation would be “touchy football”. Keep up the great work! Love ya
indonesian national team were able to implement Tiki-Taka under Spanish Coach who is also both former Barcelona and Real Madrid player, Luis Milla Aspas. tiki taka was a suitable strategy for us since Indonesians player have height less than average 175 cm. we could master it in 18 months. as a result we were able to win several friendlies against weaker countries, also can cope with our nemesis Thailand and bigger countries such as Japan, South Korea and iceland (but Still Lose from them though.....) but our lousy and corrupt football association fired him with no logical reasons. hopefully he will back managing us someday.
Tiki Taka is a misconception. The concept is ''ElJuegoDePosicion'' that means positional football. 'Tiki Taka' as a phrase evolved when quick one touch passes interchange was observed by distant viewer who couldn't see purpose behind that which was to create overloads in some areas pf pitch or to utilize spaces arounds. ''You pass the ball, you attract opponents if you are press - resistant and technical enough you can disrupt their shape and structure and mobilize the space left behind and optimize the pitch either by expanding it to our benifit by quick passes or dribble during attack. '' -Xavi, 2017 interview ''I hate Tiki-Taka it's passing ba without aim, we don't play that way'' -Pep Guardiola
So what. All he's saying is that people that think it's just 121s are wrong. We know that. This video says that. If you understand the term properly like this video then it has meaning.
100% the term was coined by Johan Cruyff. In the Netherlands they have been using the term tiktak football WAY before i first heard it to describe Barcelona’s style.
This tiki taka revolution of football was the most revolutionary in history and the most efficient and successful of all eras From internationalational level to club level it culminated in 2 back to back euros, a WORLD CUP, multiple UCL's and Spanish league titles. It changed football forever. Ever since then teams try and play possession football and pressure play but not as successful as that era.
Key word here is movement. That became clear after the 2012 spanish win in the Europa cup. Tiki-taka became stagnant when there was no movement between players, it was almost painful to watch as a spanish suporter those games where youncpuld clearly see that the team amd the team playstile were declining.
You have forgot the first coach who played his team like that.... before Guardiola, he was the first of seeing the potential of those Spanish players....LUIS ARAGONES
Loving the content but an interesting angle that would have been great to put in is that the tiki taka style originally was developed by Arthur Rowe in 1949 while he was manager of Tottenham. Rowe taught this style to Vic Buckingham who became Ajax manager and led them to an Eredivisie title in his first season - thus influencing the new Total Football style which Burnley also were successful with in the 1950s - again largely down to the teachings of Arthur Rowe
Excellent explanation. Remember that the origins of the phrase by the famous Spanish commentator refers to a waiter with a tray full of tapas serving and offering them in all directions to the customers in a terrace bar
All you need to do to beat tiki taka is be clinical in a counter attack. Ukraine did this to Spain one game. Spain had 90% possession and over 300 passes but Ukraine only needed 15 Seconds on the counter attack- just 3 passes between 3 players down the field to score the only goal of the game. After the goal Spain played more reserved.
Tiki-Taka was beautiful to watch, even to this day, when you watch the highlights on TH-cam .... HOWEVER, if you were the opponent whom they were using it against, you almost wanted to break their legs. 😁 PS: Ronaldinho made it more entertaining to watch, and after he left, it became very monotonous.
I always feel Tiki-Taka is just the style that Xavi played as a midfielder. After he left Barca, they just don't play the same style anymore. Even though Iniesta and Messi were still on the team, it was very different from when Xavi was around.
@@autonaut279 hell nah. But tiki taka was really boring if we're being honest. You had to be doing something while watching the match like be on Facebook or some shit. Otherwise you'll only be falling asleep and wake up only when you hear "gol gol gol gol gol gol gol gol."
I love it. It's an art for me. I don't like the direct style's or soaking up pressure to hit on break... Spanish, Scottish, dutch style has strategy to it and a goal in mind. When it's coached well it's a thing of beauty but so few can coach it and very few players can perfect it
The video should also have talked about how managers were able to eventually counter this. Tiki taka has also had influence on the way players are conditioned. Like the Mourinho's beasts that were very quick and phyisical to press these players.
Am I the only one who likes the creative Italian 2006 football with strong defense,Balanced midfield and devastating forwards?Tiki taka can be destroyed by parking the bus or extremely physical football,Jose did it,he won la liga against the best Barca of 21st century.
Fernando Torres and David Villa weren't false 9s at all, and were crucial to Spain's success. In fact, at their peak they played together for Spain. The false 9 became later when Spain lacked such good forwards as those two.
I don’t don’t Barca creates the tiki taka but they definitely adapted and grew it but guys iam a 17 yr/o semi pro baller who post his journey would love if you could check it out and give me feedback 🙌
Barcelona doesn't Play Tiki Taka. It's called Jugo De Posición (Positional play). It's quite different from Tiki Taka as it emphasis on position and space rather than just passing the ball. No of passes doesn't matter but the right movements and the occupying the right spaces matters.
This video ignores how Luis Aragonés, who was the coach in 2006 and 2008 for Spain, incorporated the tiki-taka idea into Spain's play. He also noticed his players were not the tallest or most physical.
Its really sad that arsenal was never mentioned in the video specially when they were the team known to play the best tiki taka football of england and often compared with Barcelona. Shame on tifo football👎
Who is here again after Pep's City masterclass at the Etihad against Madrid. Pep's ability to replicate this style of play at city shows how big of a genius he is.
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The problem with tiki taka (and total football) is you need exceptional players to carry out this style of football, if you try it with average players it's a disaster
@Papery well most of them weren't average
Papery Most of them were in the Academy for years were they were taught it.
@Papery What about Ajax this season?
Not really man. Norwich do it
@Papery yeah you're right. Frenkie, De Ligt and Schone left the club. But even so they started very well. At one point though Neres, Ziyech, Promes, Blind and Veltman were all injuried. That's like 5 starting players, and club like Ajax doesn't have a strong enough bench to replace them
that spanish team was just something else. no doubt about that.
imagine spain 2010 vs Brazil 2002
Carlos Escudero faaackiinng hell m8
@@carlosescudero9845 Brazil 1970
Eat your cereal
noor dow abhooor it
Tifo: Do you want a podcast or a short video on tiki-taka?
Me:
Tifo: Sends both.
Me: Thanks Tifo. 😁
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@@fazegod2970 oooh
Barca had me looking for 70 percent possession in FIFA 😂
@MeOhYesMe play PES then. It's much more realistic and believe me, once you can dominate a game in PES or score a long shot, you'll never go back to FIFA.
I once had 81% but only 2 goals scored
No thanks
Try football manager
@@OVO-z5s I've played FM since 2005😂
2008-2012 was an amazing time to be a Barca fan. I had been a fan since 2002 just before Ronaldinho was signed and it has been a pleasure to see the blaugrana ascend the way they did. Conversely the Rosell/Bartomeu era has been the complete opposite. Watching all of that glory turn to dust under a stewardship that has turned its back on Cruyff and all the values he brought has been difficult. I really hope a new club president can be brought in who will bring back those values which brought Barca to the pinnacle of the game.
Xavi and Laporta IS BACK
@@luxxmos_ley i was gonna comment this
Summary of the presidency of Rosell and Bartomeu: they went to the casino, they spent the money (they bought players but it's the same).
Since he recently passed away, maybe you guys could honor him and do a video on Radomir Antic, one of the two men who managed Atletico, Barcelona and Real Madrid. He was most successful at Atleti but his work at Barcelona is underrated as he set the frame for the team that will dominate in years to come.
He's the only one to manage all 3. He's one of two to manage Real and Barca.
@@PrathamBatra You are right, sir. Thanks for correction.
@DezPotik 219er well in that case it should be fast tracked! But seriously it should be because this guy sounds like a legend.
He also relegated man city with his goal for his club - luton, while he secured luton would stay in the first division, legend! RIP ❤
Andrej Ristic absolute legend
We need a video about how tika taka was eventually overcome by various teams, especially bayern.
There are already several “How Bayern destroyed Tiki Taka” analysis videos you can watch
Xavi declined. That team declined as all teams do
hank jones Other teams didn’t get better, Barca got worse.
@@nationradical lmao
@@matheus5230 it wasnt about declination , bayern were focused on relentless pressing , bayern didnt give time for passes and space to move the ball , they applied gegen pressing which klopp uses on another level , they knew only barcelona could have defeated them, their manager at that time i forgot his name was a cruyff follower too so he knew everything about total football. He knew that barca would have been better with possession due to players like xavi, iniesta and messi so he avoided having possession he went for gegen pressing which alows you to narrow the field as much as possible but the players should be well trained and fit for that thus u can see how many goals they scored as barca lost possession again and again , the 1vs1s were very difficult due to players like lahm, javi martinez and dante. Thank you for listening to my Ted talk :) .
I love how barca (and spain) literally changed football as it is, tiki taka is known as barcas playing style and every team tries to encorparate it to some extent into their teams. Its just amazing to see influence barca has had on how football is played and perceived
how barca and spain? Cruijff is at the core of it all.
"They can have the ball if they want, I'll have the 3 points"
😂😂😂
And loose 2 matches 😂 afterwards
Did he get the 3 points when he lost 5-0
They can have the job if they want, I will get sacked
Sounds like something Jose Mourinho once said 🤣
@@OVO-z5s well it is
Always proud to say that this style of play originated from a Dutch football philosophy. And that Cruyff, Van Gaal and Rijkaard are still heralded at Barca for their influence on the club.
Yes, this began with Cruyff, Netherlands and the 'total football', one of the legendary teams in the history of football which, despite not having been champion, broke the mold with its football, like Hungary a few decades before.
...In conclusion, you must have Iniesta , Xavi and Messi to complete the real Tiki-Taka.
Thats why I don't like flahsy players as individual players, they need other flashy players to thrive. Look Busquets without Xavi and Iniesta
@@sebastianstammer9265
Busquets is still brilliant
Recently under Valverde with aeging Iniesta and Rakitic Busquets had to cover a lot of space and his abilities were limitedly utilized.
He's still more press resistant, has still got vision to understand the dynamics of game and can still control tempo of game.
@@sarthakgautam3504 he is still good but You can get more of a guy like Casemiro/kante than Busquets without classy players
@@sarthakgautam3504 also busi in a verygood day can play 4vs11 with lio, Suárez and Ter stegen like vs Liverpool in camp nou
Love the profile pic... Breaking Bad is a must watch for quarantine
Thank you Tifo for helping my quarantine. Next you should look at Garrincha a footballing tragic hero
On god he won 62 World Cup by himself
Billy Beard Despite having knees that should’ve made it impossible to walk and being a raging alcoholic
He lost his virginity to a goat when he was 14 don’t ask me how I know it
@@bmpark16 Who told u that?
Footballing. I've never heard of it 😅
Question: what is Tiki-Taka?
Me: Art
Me: destroyer
Me: a history
Lars Mazumdar Given both Barcelona and City still win a lot of trophies because of it I wouldn’t say it’s outdated. But it’s evolving.
@L Maz Tiki taka was nearly impossible to defend against and it still is. The only team that ever managed to destroy tiki taka was Bayern. There's a video on this channel too about that.
Me: the class
Messi class /xavi-iniesta class💙❤
Disappointing lack of mention of Dani Alves and Sergio Busquets who were both integral to Guardiola’s Barca side. People always talk about the brilliance of Xavi, Messi and Iniesta but rarely speak about how Guardiola also had arguably the greatest two way fullback of all time at his disposal as well.
busquets the most underrated from the three . Still to this date hes a genuis in the midfield.
Yes, Dani Alves was awesome. I remember too Yaya Toure, who Guardiola didn't think fit in, but in my opinion he made the team more solid.
Pep Guardiola's Barça was the best football I've ever seen in my life! They were glorious!
I'm probably 2 years late but I find most of your channel timeless. Some people say you failed to mention Dani Alves or Busquets, I say Victor Valdés was the piece that many other teams miss when trying to recreate tiki-taka. He is a pioneer that will be recognized in time with a playstyle that only Ter Stegen can reproduce to an even higher level. Also, I'm happy that you remarked that possession is a means, not an end. It kind of is the catchphrase of Barça this season.
My understanding of tiki taka was moreso a style of play whereby passing draws out players, by consistently keeping and passing for example you could drag opposing players out of position thus creating open space and scoring opportunities.
That’s what it is it’s passing with a purpose and with players pressing when they don’t have the ball. Barcelona hasn’t done that since Tito Villanova passed away and Luis Enrique was close to it but not quite the style of play we were used to although it was still very entertaining and still orientated on attacking but with more direct possession football.
Yes, exactly, and that is what the video is saying. The main purpose is create open spaces in the oppositions half to exploit and score goals. Possession and passing are simply the means to an ends.
And it's definitely true - when you watch a 121 it always draws the defender in. Always. They just can't watch. Like a cat and a laser pointer.
The tiki taka style is about not letting the opponent have possession. I hate Tiki Taka hahahaha. Its cruel. To beat Tiki Taka, just don't have any intention of getting the ball (a.k.a park the bus.) Tiki Taka is about playing with only our team so let them play by themselves hahahahahaha.
Amierul Aiziq not true if that was true teams like Newcastle, Burnley, Athletico Madrid, Getafe, etc would be beating Man City and Barcelona all the time:
Let’s be honest. Tiki taka made football more fun to watch. The influence is everywhere today even in youth.
Only if its played the right way. There are people that thinks its just having the ball and passing it with out any sense or intention, and that gets boring quickly
Agree, english football has changed so much since barca dominated the world with their football.
@@langsz bayern😂
@@abinsronaldofan what does that have to do with his comment?
Until some asshole coaches started playing with 3 defense lines.
The pitch was a canvas. The Spanish playing philosophy a profound piece of artwork. The inspiration and texture: Johan Cruyff.
I remember always watching Barcelona games in their tiki taka prime and screaming at the screen, telling the opposition “watch out! You’re in a triangle!” But then I once played against a team that tried to emulate the tiki taka style and oh boy, playing against tiki taka kills you from the inside
You don't get the ball and you get tired by pressing, that's why it is effective.
Unless you're bayern. Then you thrash tiki taka 😎
Atinder Singh Like they did in 2010?
Atinder Singh Bayern didn’t thrash it Barca’s manager was very ill and ended up dying and Messi had a hamstring issue so wasn’t entirely fit. Bayern beat a very weakened Barça team.
Atinder Singh a lot of you don’t know The Who story y’all just look at the scoreline and think it was because Bayern destroyed them more like Barca had many problems in that season
1:19 "tocando", the "c" should be pronounced like a "k".
anyways, Love the videos!!!
I think he meant toçando
I’m curious why the video is addressing things in a certain manner.
Here are some things that stood out to me, for example:
1 How this style of play has its origins in total football. (Briefly) Mentioning Cruyff and losing the chance to credit Michels.
2 Why(!) pressing is the optimal form of defense using 443 and its playing style -> A high line with attacking football will require immediate pressing as the first form of defense.
3. How this formation and this style revolves around triangles
4. Failing to properly credit Guardiola for his (tactical) influence in the Premier League.
5 Losing the opportunity to properly credit Ajax and it’s academy.
These are just some examples. I’m just curious and want to know the thought patterns are behind choosing some words while refusing to use some others.
For tiki taka you need three players Messi , iniesta and xavi.
Busquets man...
The video was informative. But didn't Pep Guardiola in the book 'Pep Confidential' say that "Barça don't do tika-taka. Tika-taka is just passing the ball with no real purpose"
Yep. It's called Positional Play or El Juego De Posicion.
Overloading one side of the pitch to create numerical superiorities on the other side. It involves passing and possession to achieve this. A common misconception.
Exactamundo! Tiki-taca is more a media term than anything else to sensationalize this method of playing. It’s not a true organic word to describe Positional Play, it’s a bastardization of the philosophy.
great books highly recommend people read both of them
Although Guardiola may think this teams don’t pass with no purpose. They definitely do. Fucking 80 minutes of sleep time. Boring.
Why always pep ? Vicente del bosque
What about the Wengerball from early 00 to mid and late 00, when it was at its scintillating best and effective in terms of beautiful football and winning a game? As I started watching football back then that was my first introduction to possession based football and when Barca blew up (even more so than before) under Pep I thought others were evolving it and doing it too!
As a Canadian growing up in the Toronto area, having Spanish origins, as I teenager I witnessed Spain winning the world cup in 2010 and Arsenal playing throughout the 2000s. Now at 26, I think back to what were my big influences in football and it was indeed playing a lot of futsal as an adolescent and watching Cesc Fabregas at Arsenal and the Spanish national team. It's amazing how that style of play just transfixed me when I was younger... The sheer amount of passes done beautifully leading to a goal. Then it was players like Cazorla (who would forget that performance against Man. City) that captivated me. It's funny to think now about the Arsenal midfield with the likes of Özil, who indeed carried on that style of play somewhat, though I'm trying to pinpoint a particular moment when Arsenal stopped that playing of football.. It think it was quite late in Wenger career there when they started switching to a 4-2-3-1 that a lot of that was lost, with players like Xhaka, Elneny. I mean, Arsenal had Flamini to use as a defensive mid, but perhaps as their defence issues got worse since the 2010s, then the midfield started looking more defensive? What do people think?
Indeed Wenger was a pioneer of the passing game within England. I think formation and personnel prevented it from becoming full blown tiki-taka/Cruyff ball in the early 2000s. The Nasri/Fabregas/Wilshere days were a closer match and culminated in that famous victory over Barcelona. Perhaps ultimately what led to that later version not sweeping trophies was the lack of gamechangers as well as a lack of insistence on pressing
@@JDVRadio I'm curious to hear how they do in the coming years because they've certainly morphed under Arteta but how will that form ultimately manifest?
@@jamesportoraro8248 what Arteta is is a good coach. What Arsenal lack is good personnel. I think if they can keep Martinelli and blood a few more of the youngsters they can definitely be a top 4 team. If they can then go big in the transfer market nothing can stop them from challenging for the title
@@JDVRadio I agree Arteta is a good coach, I am really quite happy with him being there; thought my point is that it will take a season or two to get Arsenal to where he wants. I
Creo que no podría explicarse mejor. Vosotros las británicos, entre otras cosas, pusistes las reglas básicas, lo que permitió que la práctica del fútbol se extendiera por todo el planeta. Y hoy en día seguís contribuyendo decisivamente a su desarrollo teórico y práctico entre todos los que amamos este deporte. Muchas gracias desde España.
I think it could not be explained better. You British people set the basic rules for the global practice of football, among other things, and today you continue to contribute decisively to its theoretical and practical development among all of us who love this sport. Thank you very much from Spain.
1:44 that’s not the Catalan flag (Senyera). That’s the independence Catalan flag (Estelada). The difference is that the Catalan flag is only red and yellow and the independent one has a blue triangle and a white 5 point star that was taken as inspiration from the cuban flag.
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@Derry Douglas In terms of income (what I assume you're basing 'success' on) he will achieve more success than over 95% of the worlds population will in their lifetimes. So yes, statistically there's a 19/20 chance he's more successful than anyone you come across in TH-cam.
What was the point of your comment?
Sorry, it's even more than 19/20 considering a large portion of the world doesn't have access to internet / TH-cam, my mistake on the oversight.
@King Rohit Cheers Rohit, guy gave a smartass comment so I gave one right back 😂
The C in “tocando” should be pronounced as a k. And there is no exact translation given that tiki-taka is an invented word that resembles quick passing between players. i.e. Xavi to Iniesta (thats the tiki) immediately followed by an Iniesta to Messi pass (thats the taka) so on and so forth. Its kind of like an onomatopoeia where tiki and taka resemble the sound of quick passes. Therefore, a more accurate translation would be “we are passing the ball in quick succession”
Lol, no that's not it
POintless POints what is it then? Andres Montes (caster) created the phrase and used it when the team had an outstanding possession of the ball and were passing it very quickly. I’m a native spanish speaker btw
Liverpool and Nottingham Forest played a brand of Football which consisted on passing back in the 70's and 80's. Both conquered Europe.
When talking about well known teams inspired by tiki-taka I think you should also mention the german national squad around the time they won the world cup up until the world cup in russia. They might have played the style to the extreme as spain or barca did but they too had a strong focus on possession based football.
not really. there was some influence but not really the same
I heard of tiki-taka before as something related to a lot of pass but tifo made it very clear to me what it actually is which I may not understand even after reading a site for an hour. I never had this kind of coherent understanding of it's origin, strength and weakness. To be able to make it easy to understand for less intelligent person like myself is what I like about Tifo.
1:46 OMG Thats not the catalan flag! You put the estelada. The independent one.
Sentence: estamos tocando tiki taka
Narrator: estamos tossandos tiki taka
Me: why did you...?!
One of my favourite things is hearing how Anglos discover new ways to butcher Spanish 🤣
Sucio honestly I can’t apologise enough but to be honest we butcher ALL languages 😂
For anyone wondering, it should’ve been something like Estamos to/k/ando tiki taka
@@testadalord01432 Lol no worries, man 😅
These guys are awful at pronunciation , god dammit
Just finished the podcast! Great work on both.
This whole channel is great for an American trying to the learn all the details about soccer/football.
great video, and thanks for the insight. i didn’t quite understand positional play until i watched this video, so credits for throwing info about that in as well. stay safe and keep up the good work guys :D
Tifo, love your videos because of the amount of effort put into investigating topics, which leads to rarely making mistakes. Tiki-taka is a slang in the Spanish speaking world which means that something is working flawlessly. When Clemente said that the selección was playing tiki-taka, he meant that they were playing good. Passing, movement and possession oriented football in Spanish is called “fútbol del toque”, which its literal translation would be “touchy football”. Keep up the great work! Love ya
A small thing!
Tocando in Spanish is not said 'Toss-ando'. The C before an A always has a 'K' sound, so it would be 'Tok-ando'
indonesian national team were able to implement Tiki-Taka under Spanish Coach who is also both former Barcelona and Real Madrid player, Luis Milla Aspas.
tiki taka was a suitable strategy for us since Indonesians player have height less than average 175 cm. we could master it in 18 months. as a result we were able to win several friendlies against weaker countries, also can cope with our nemesis Thailand and bigger countries such as Japan, South Korea and iceland (but Still Lose from them though.....)
but our lousy and corrupt football association fired him with no logical reasons.
hopefully he will back managing us someday.
Tiki Taka is a misconception.
The concept is ''ElJuegoDePosicion''
that means positional football.
'Tiki Taka' as a phrase evolved when quick one touch passes interchange was observed by distant viewer who couldn't see purpose behind that which was to create overloads in some areas pf pitch or to utilize spaces arounds.
''You pass the ball, you attract opponents if you are press - resistant and technical enough you can disrupt their shape and structure and mobilize the space left behind and optimize the pitch either by expanding it to our benifit by quick passes or dribble during attack. '' -Xavi, 2017 interview
''I hate Tiki-Taka it's passing ba without aim, we don't play that way''
-Pep Guardiola
So what. All he's saying is that people that think it's just 121s are wrong. We know that. This video says that. If you understand the term properly like this video then it has meaning.
100% the term was coined by Johan Cruyff. In the Netherlands they have been using the term tiktak football WAY before i first heard it to describe Barcelona’s style.
That quote made xavi and iniesta sound like some hypnotized robot or something xD
Typooo _ Accurate 👏
They instilled those methods since kids at la masia
Man I love these videos. So well done. As always. This channel is so underrated.
Why are there Union berlin fans at 6:29?
This tiki taka revolution of football was the most revolutionary in history and the most efficient and successful of all eras
From internationalational level to club level it culminated in 2 back to back euros, a WORLD CUP, multiple UCL's and Spanish league titles.
It changed football forever. Ever since then teams try and play possession football and pressure play but not as successful as that era.
That is not Catalonia's flag, but Catalan pro-independence's flag.
Correct. That's not Catalonia flag. Greetings from Barcelona.
Sad almost no video about tiki taka talks about Busquets... That man is tiki taka personified. So underrated!
So great to finally see this channel receive the attention it deserves
These videos immensely help my coaching and overall soccer enjoyment. Thank you so much!
soccer.....You are still way behind
Key word here is movement. That became clear after the 2012 spanish win in the Europa cup. Tiki-taka became stagnant when there was no movement between players, it was almost painful to watch as a spanish suporter those games where youncpuld clearly see that the team amd the team playstile were declining.
You have forgot the first coach who played his team like that.... before Guardiola, he was the first of seeing the potential of those Spanish players....LUIS ARAGONES
Please make a video on Sarriball and why it made Sarri's Chelsea one of the most feared sides during his tenure.
That Pep illustration at first looked like a distant child of Cantona.
For that you have won a kung fu kick by legend himself
Loving the content but an interesting angle that would have been great to put in is that the tiki taka style originally was developed by Arthur Rowe in 1949 while he was manager of Tottenham. Rowe taught this style to Vic Buckingham who became Ajax manager and led them to an Eredivisie title in his first season - thus influencing the new Total Football style which Burnley also were successful with in the 1950s - again largely down to the teachings of Arthur Rowe
Guardiola how many passes do you need?
Guardiola: Yes
wathcing your video is like having a meditation, or therapy. amazing music, amazing story and insight
Owen coyle transformed my local club in a year great coach
Chennayian Fc😅😅
Great work in half a season
Yup
Excellent explanation. Remember that the origins of the phrase by the famous Spanish commentator refers to a waiter with a tray full of tapas serving and offering them in all directions to the customers in a terrace bar
Best football ever. Freedom for Catalan repúblic!!
All you need to do to beat tiki taka is be clinical in a counter attack. Ukraine did this to Spain one game. Spain had 90% possession and over 300 passes but Ukraine only needed 15 Seconds on the counter attack- just 3 passes between 3 players down the field to score the only goal of the game. After the goal Spain played more reserved.
5:58 thats a nice tattoo Messi has
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Portugal:pass to CR7
Spain: tiki-taka
Brasil: joga bonito
Argentina:messi will do all alone
Italy: defend till we die
German:attack till we die
*France : Africa United
argentina : doing whatever to win
Uruguay : do most fouls
England : its coming home
Portugal shouldn't even be here LMAO
Tiki-Taka was beautiful to watch, even to this day, when you watch the highlights on TH-cam .... HOWEVER, if you were the opponent whom they were using it against, you almost wanted to break their legs. 😁
PS: Ronaldinho made it more entertaining to watch, and after he left, it became very monotonous.
Im sure that at 1:23 every spanish who is watching this read that with Andres Montes' voice. One of the best commentators ever
Who’s here after Spain lost to Morocco after 80% possession lmaoooo
I always feel Tiki-Taka is just the style that Xavi played as a midfielder. After he left Barca, they just don't play the same style anymore. Even though Iniesta and Messi were still on the team, it was very different from when Xavi was around.
"estamos toh-KHAN-doh..."
not "estamos "to-zan-doh..."
A little spanish goes a long way:)
This is the most beautiful form of football
Tiki-taka, the only style of football that makes you fall asleep during every match.
I bet you love the Fast & Furious franchise
@@autonaut279 hell nah.
But tiki taka was really boring if we're being honest. You had to be doing something while watching the match like be on Facebook or some shit. Otherwise you'll only be falling asleep and wake up only when you hear "gol gol gol gol gol gol gol gol."
I love it. It's an art for me. I don't like the direct style's or soaking up pressure to hit on break...
Spanish, Scottish, dutch style has strategy to it and a goal in mind. When it's coached well it's a thing of beauty but so few can coach it and very few players can perfect it
The video should also have talked about how managers were able to eventually counter this. Tiki taka has also had influence on the way players are conditioned. Like the Mourinho's beasts that were very quick and phyisical to press these players.
Mourihno beaten pep 7 times in 25 and drew 6 times
Hardly a stopped
1:18 absolutely butchered it. Pronounce “Tokandoe”
Am I the only one who likes the creative Italian 2006 football with strong defense,Balanced midfield and devastating forwards?Tiki taka can be destroyed by parking the bus or extremely physical football,Jose did it,he won la liga against the best Barca of 21st century.
You sir, are not alone!
Do a video showing how Real Madrid's Mourinho beated the tiki taka system.
Super. Tifo Football's the ultimate football encyclopedia.
Pep hates the term though. He hates when his teams are labeled as playing tiki-take.
Because he thinks people see tiki taka as just fast passes. When there's a system and strategy put in place
Such a nice TH-cam channel
Video idea: most expensive XI and why they were expensive (player's quality).
This episode by tifo football is masterclass
wow i’m here so early
Noel Bravo facts same , you should be early on my channel too wink wink
So helpful! Clear and concise.
Tiki Taka is passing for the sake of it. Pep Guardiola hates the word
It's actually positional play that's why he hates that
This Channel is underrated, TBH
tiki-taka❌
JUEGO DE POSICION✔️
*BRILLIANT!* _NO ONE ELSE_ even comes close to producing football-related content as good as _Tifo_ do. Thank you guys! ❤️💯👍🏻
Pass your girl like tiki taka that’s why they call us M S N
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Fernando Torres and David Villa weren't false 9s at all, and were crucial to Spain's success. In fact, at their peak they played together for Spain. The false 9 became later when Spain lacked such good forwards as those two.
I don’t don’t Barca creates the tiki taka but they definitely adapted and grew it but guys iam a 17 yr/o semi pro baller who post his journey would love if you could check it out and give me feedback 🙌
Barcelona doesn't Play Tiki Taka. It's called Jugo De Posición (Positional play). It's quite different from Tiki Taka as it emphasis on position and space rather than just passing the ball. No of passes doesn't matter but the right movements and the occupying the right spaces matters.
This video ignores how Luis Aragonés, who was the coach in 2006 and 2008 for Spain, incorporated the tiki-taka idea into Spain's play. He also noticed his players were not the tallest or most physical.
Bayern 7-0 Barca.
End of Tiki-Taka
I can not even begin to explain how wrong and unfunny you are, so I agree with you.
Or Italy v. Spain in Euro 2016 Round of 16
Direct counter attack
Pep Guardiola's Bayern 0-4 Real Madrid
Yeah, the next year Bayern hired Guardiola as manager....
You guys at Tifo should definitely do a video about the modern football counters for Tiki-Taka!
Tiki taka was first introduced on The Athletic
I have actually been waiting for this for too long
Its really sad that arsenal was never mentioned in the video specially when they were the team known to play the best tiki taka football of england and often compared with Barcelona. Shame on tifo football👎
5:27 and Owen Coyle wins the ISL against all odds 2022. What a manager..
*cough Positional Play *cough El Juego De Posicion *cough
Please cover your mouth sir.
Toxic
Who is here again after Pep's City masterclass at the Etihad against Madrid. Pep's ability to replicate this style of play at city shows how big of a genius he is.
Last time I was this early tiki-taka was an insult.
Love this TH-cam page!
Friend:bro what is tiki taka?
Me:barcelona 2000-2020