Solo Winter Wild Camping | Southern Cross 1 Tent Winter Test.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 เม.ย. 2016
- Solo winter wildcamping trip to try out my new Terra Nova 'Southern Cross One' tent for future winter camping & backpacking trips.
The new 'Terra Nova Southern Cross 1' tent on this trip has been designed for 4 Season use and just out on the market for 2016.
Decided to give it a try at a fairly high altitude in the snowy and freezing Scottish mountains.
So watch along to see how I felt it performed. I do cover some of the possible negatives to this design and size of tent.
The location was amazing and looked like something from the set of 'Game of Thrones' and was just waiting on the 'White Walkers' to appear.
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Wild Camping & Hillwalking Scotland - The Mamores & Southern Cross 1 Tent Review
Hi Ray - a very nice video and informative review :)
I have the both the SC1 and 2 and have now used them for several nights - the last time was the SC1 in similar conditions to this vid, but in the Lakes. I am 6'2" and although a snug fit i found the SC1 ok for room and much better than many of single hoop designs - sitting up to cook and eat was fine for me. My walk-in to the snow line was in constant sleet and I wore full water proofs from the start and thus was very damp by the time I setup camp. Despite this I suffered little condensation and was using a Alpkit (Long) sleeping bag - I am a side/curled up sleeper and hence I wasn't blocking the vent at the foot end, but I can imagine if the vents are obstructed it will cause problems. I found the tent to be very stable in winds of around 35-40mph and i'm starting to feel very confident in its abilities. I can also imagine the large side panels in certain situations will press against the inner tent, although when I was camping the snow seemed to build up only slightly before sliding off. The tent has been a doddle and is very fast to setup and pack away (a feature I was particularly keen on). So far I am very pleased with it and think it has great potential. I think the Hilleberg Soulo is slightly bigger.
The SC2 is plenty large but a fair bit heavier at 2.4kg. Terra Nova say it is 4 season backpacking (like SC1) but I am not sure what that translates to in real conditions - the TN Voyager is 3-4 season back packing, but I can't see the SC as any more robust. The SC2 has doors both sides which means the walls of the inner tent are less supported and droop inwards which I find slightly annoying.
+Wolfblass Hi, Thanks for dropping by and posting. There are some good features with this tent such as the quick pitching and packing away. As a tent for me I feel it is just too small. However I am going to Skye at the weekend and meeting up with Eddie, Scotswildcamper who has the SC2 so interested to see that one in the flesh. Atb Ray.
+Renegade Scot Hiya - sounds fun and I am very keen and interested to read other peoples thoughts on the SC2 and have seen many of Scotswildcampers vids. I am still thinking a Soulo or a Janu would be better for me for a Scottish Winter - assuming the wife allows me :) (It's been a hard struggle to get back into a position that I can do such things after suffering a heart attack last year). Take care in Skye.
great vid good honest practical review on the tent too !
+alan burns Thanks Alan. Was maybe a bit harsh on the tent under the conditions. Have used far cheaper tents though that have performed better under the same conditions and based on the price that maybe set me off on the wrong foot. However I can now confirm that style of one person tent is not for me. Have a review of my old favourite soon and may surprise a few folks. Thanks again for watching. Ray.
Loved the video keep them coming
+Laurence Williams Thanks very much. Atb Ray.
Great film Ray, I love the Mamores i have had some great times up there. Still got the four eastern Munros to bag so it was great for you to make the effort and upload this and give me a wee look. What a difference that snow made, Must have caught a few people out. All the best, peter.
+MUNROSnCORBETTS Hi Peter. Was a lovely walk up and the scenery was amazing. Cant wait to get back up to spend more nights and try and knock them off my list. As I thought would happen when I was back at the car it was blue sky and wished I could have stayed another day and night. Atb Ray.
Amazing scenery.
Thanks. Atb
really like the look of the Optimus windshield
It has served me well for years.
@@RS.Outdoors I have one of those foil roll thingies, which I hate using because it's so noisy and flimsy. With this Optimus screen I'd have no issues....
oi daft laddie...fell over you vids by accident...loves em. Not able to get out and wild camp and donnar any more, sheese half the time canne even bloody knit. Please keep the vids coming as there are plenty folks out there travelling vicariously wiff ya
+weegie wummin Lol, must be mad alright. Thanks for watching. Atb Ray.
Hi Ray..the last clip of you walking back down WOW amazing...views to die for...great viewing.... might take a look at that windshield.... condensation is a pain, our moist climate and the type of ground all contribute's, but having the inner zipped as wide as possible and the fly too all help's. Air flow is the key, breathing, cooking, and ground moisture, condensation is here to stay... losing battle..I had a chuckle when you said you sometimes come across as a "dour bugger" ...unsure if many will understand what that means..very funny...ATB R&D :)
+garn fora ratch Thanks mate. Some folks think I suffer from severe Scottishness, lol. That windshield was a good buy and my cook kit weighs about 400 grams. That's windshield, cooker, 600ml pot and gas canister. The 900 ml cup from Alpkit should fit Just as good and only add a few more grams. I am not a mega weight counter but think it is a nice and easy setup for one person that fits all together nice. The last section of film even surprised me. New it was nice on way down but didn't think the camera would pick it up as it did. Atb Ray.
Hi from Edinburgh. Just reading your comments on condensation, I thought a lot of hard fought for wisdom there. Thx for sharing it.
9.20 what a fantastic view ! looks stunning.
It really is! Need to go back this winter and do another film as it's a great area. Atb
Great video. Stunning up there, love that area. Atb. Mick
+blamhof Thanks Mick, apprecaited as always. Ray.
Not selling this as an experience Ray! I thought the forgotten flattened pasty was going to save the day, but no! Then the cold coffee, condensation, headroom and painful shoulder. I'm still looking forward to winter camping. Great fun to watch again ya dour b*****r. ATB for this winter Fellmandave
great channel and vid iv subbed you especially liked your decathlon hiking tent video im sold on it
Thanks, will check out your channel as well. Atb Ray.
Another great video, you should have more subscribers!
Looking into a trip up to Scotland. Been looking at your Cairngorm videos looks an amazing place to wild camp. Cheers, Steve.
+C Veg (Bushcraft) Thanks Steve. There are a lot of folks in this little community of loons that should have more subscribers. Enjoy the filming so not fussed in that regard. So many lovely places to wild camp and explore in Scotland it's amazing. I am really lucky to have it on my doorstep. Most places I can get to in a couple of hours drive. If you are ever up this neck of the woods, or looking for any info feel free to give me a shout. Atb Ray.
+Renegade Scot
Cheers Ray, may take you up on that, never camped up there before, cant get any time off work for a while, whats it like in early summer (how are the midges then?) Steve.
great review! great channel!
I had the same problem with condensation in my Akto last week. I'd forgot to open the vent before nodding off. -6 outside, and soaking inside.
p.s I made a pair of tent booties from the sleeves off an old Primaloft jacket, they work fine.
Thanks for watching. Got some Montane booties for this season and so far what a difference they make to the old tootsies. Atb Ray.
great video looking like it was bloody cold . thanks always learning . thanks ATB
Thanks for watching. Was a bit chilly but fine as long as I had a hot coffee in between shots. Atb Ray.
Thanks for sharing . ATB . Andy
Renegade Scot do you Andy on . AMbushcraft. He's up your way . Good lad he is .
really enjoyed this video and the review on the tent I have subbed to you, I have the Hilleberg Akto and in cold damp conditions it also gets condensation. I also have the Jannu this does not suffer as bad as the akto for condensation but the air vent is on the very top which I think helps this, atb steve.
+Dartmoorwonderer Thank you Steve. will head over and check out your own channel. Atb Ray.
Hi Ray Cracking video mate as always, I think all tents will give you some condensation if temperatures are low. personally I have tried the one man tents but prefer opting for a 2 man more weight but plenty of room to relax. with regards to the terra nova I found the one man tents to small and condensation was bad but I am 6 foot 3 so need a little extra room. however that is just my opinion I have talked to some folk who swear by them.Thanks again really enjoyed this video, hopefully I will get in that area this year at some point.ATB Pete
+madDog Bushcraft Thanks Pete. That size of tent is a bit small for me as well. Prefer two person to be honest as I also like a little bit of space. Hope you get up to that area as it was my first time wild camping at that location and was great. Will be doing a lot more exploring around that bit soon. Atb Ray.
You could try mixing frozen veggie mix with T.V.P and mix in the source flaver that you like. You can try the 2 man tent version.
Gerard.
Was there driving passed the church only a week and a bit ago... so many beautiful places to explore there. really need to get up high around there love the solitary big time ... beautifully captured as always!!!!! The tent a bit wee small for me i just gotta have space mate!!!!!. i also feel TN are losing their attention to detail... Have loads of issues with my polar lite but adore the space in mine - however none with condensation been ok infact VG... trouble with poles/bedroom spiltting and tension straps coming off... i have a love hate relationship with TN lol.... could be the close proximity of body heat etc... optimus windshield - top tip as i have the 500 cup.... The booties try and get someone to get you some from Nepal.. i got a pair for a fiver when i was there... i also pop on a pair of heat warmer socks. you can get them at go outdoors or even in some garages... theyre mint!!! sorry for the waffle but love the gear craic mate... Take care ATB julie
+Julie Liddle Thanks Julie. Yeh need a bigger tent I think. Just a tad too small for me as I like to at least be able to sit up comfortably. Hope you manage to get more trips this year. The windshield surprised me and was better than I expected, but booties are on defo on my shopping list. Atb Ray.
Hi Ray went to Arran for 2 nights used the southern cross 2. No condensation Ok space for 1 ( i got it for solo ) headroom ok.TBH i wasnt really thinking about it , i hope to get to Corrour or somewhere high this sunday with it , then take it to Skye.I'll do a wee review after that.I speak to Andy about Skye and pass on details atb.
+Scots Wildcamper Getting a loan of an Scarp 1 to try. Think the larger size of the Southern Cross will help a lot. Hope you enjoy it and works for you. Atb Ray.
Renegade Scot Can i get a loan of Kelly Brooke lol !
Excellent vid. ATB
Many thanks Paul.
I use the mylar ziplock back and fill them with left overs - chilli and rice - that sort of thing and boil them in my pot for about 20 mins to reheat them and that works a treat. The tent is great isn't it - apart from the headroom but you do get used to it.
Yep. I see what you meant about condensation. I've not had it that bad before. Did you boil water inside the tent? Maybe added to it. The temperatures going up and down don't help either especially if you "sleep warm" I think it's a non solvable problem. I've plenty headroom in my soulo. I can sit either side too. Anyway. Great scenery. Good filming as usual. Looks a grand place. Nice video. Thanks for taking us along. Atb. Andy.
+Andy “RAINMAN” Wardle Hi andy. Did cook later on but door was open and did check flysheet before going to sleep and it was more or less bone dry as I had ahd the door open most of the night until sleep time. Thanks for watching. Atb Ray.
If it's one thing I cannot abide in a tent is......condensation.....I think that a vent up at the top would solve that.....as you say a Scotsman's demeanor is a bit gruff.....but some of us wouldn't have it any other way.....I've never been to the Mamores so was really delighted at this great video....see you next video....
Hi. Being 6ft 1in I have the same problem with left side arm and it relates to many many one person tents. This is the reason I bought Southern Cross 2 - that give me not only space to live, sit and store my stuff but reduces condensation. The price is the weight I have to carry but in winter time it's worth the effort.
Good stuff and hope you get out a lot this year to use it. Not been out much, but hope to change that in the coming months. Atb
Hi Ray, good review and video. I totally agree with the negatives of the TN laser and southern cross style 1 person tents they are claustrophobic. They are far too tight on headroom and the sides of the inner encroach into the already tight floor footprint as they angle inwards towards the apex eating into the space around the head. Consequently as soon as you move the inner touches the fly and any condensation drips on you. I still have a LaserLite, but have stopped using in favour of a MSR Hubba range, I back pack and wild camp solo and with my wife so we have the Hubba NX, Hubba Hubba NX and Mutha Hubba NX tents. I would recommend that you try the 2 person Hubba Hubba NX, near vertical walls, lots of space, 2 doors, good ventilation and has proved as robust in 50 mph+ wind and rain as the TN Laserlite and a much older TN Ultra Trisar. The Hubba Hubba NX is about the same weight as the TN Southern Cross 1 and is the one I tend to reach for more than any other of my tents solo or not.
I know it's not as robust as a Hilleberg Staika but for me it has the space and is half the weight, I'll work my way around the odd occasion when we have 80+mph winds.
+John TH HI, Thanks for posting. Did look into the MSR range and maybe one of my next to try out. Atb Ray.
Just ordered this tent so would've felt better hearing a more positive review but then again you are just being honest and maybe the big difrence for me will be my size I'm only 5ft 6 and a small build you look about 6ft odds ,I got the tent cheap in eBay auction for 122 so can't really go wrong either way
Lots of people like that tent and maybe you will find it perfect and love it. Do let me know how you get on with it. Atb
Was the condensation due to you cooking inside? Cheer Ray lovely scenery. I don't mind you 'greeting'?
Hi Marty. The cooking would not help but it is just too small inside. It is one of the worst tents I have ever owned to be honest, but just my opinion as others rave about it. Also head height is terrible and once your mat is inside you have to lay on your side and prop yourself up with arm as you cant sit up in it. Atb
Great video, thanks for sharing. Especially interested in the Tera Nova. Looked at the Hilliberg’s but they are extremely expensive at this moment for me. British made I believe so good to support home produced equipment. Cheers
Glad it was helpful! Atb
Hi, great channel, did you have anymore winter trips with the SC1 or did you get rid of it? Many thanks
Had a couple more then sold the tent. Not enough headroom in it I felt as at 5' 10" couldn't sit up on mat. It is a small sleeping area and also the condensation was terrible.
What about cuppa soups or some sort of dried soup etc
Have taken them in the past, just not a great fan of them to be honest. Atb
Hi Ray could you keep a 70ltr rucksack in the porch area.
have you used any of thr MSR Tents?
Warren, have not used any MSR and the SC may be very tight for that size of rucksack. Would recommend you go to channel in link at end as Andrew Park has had many and has also used the one person Southern Cross. Hope that helps. th-cam.com/users/g768rhvideos
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