Lol. I'm just saying, we're all going to die, Earth will be engulfed by the Sun when it dies, and every trace of our existence will be atomized. An early death by an early human interplanetary explorer in their 40s instead of 80s would be insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The risk is worth the reward.
Can't say I agree with this guy...he's basing his opinions and thoughts assuming there is no progress in other areas of science. AI could help us solve the sutainable energy problem and then all of his fossil fuel arguments go out the window for example.
he was not talking about only fossil fuels though... he was talking about tech and progress in general. the point was, every time people invent something or made progress - it gets popular or/and overused by people to the point progress is not matters anymore. he was giving example of computers and internet... modern tech in that area is million times better that old tech... but people also want million times more from it as well. so in the bigger scheme of things, the progress doesn't matter... 20 years ago people watched pictures on the internet... now we have 1000x times the power, but we still watch pictures on internet. why? because pictures are now 1000x crispier, and we do that a lot more. so tech gets better but we also demand more and more form it. at some point humans didn't knew how to preserve food. but now we have refrigerators... but we still get spoiled food in the markets. why? because not only we want fresh food... we want scecific food any day of the year, in the closest market to us, with a ton of variety... so now all that companies work for us 24/7, produce the said fruit out of season, store it, transport it over the ocean, put it on a shelf ect... and for you, who could just say "meh, i want brasilian bananas, and not argentinian" see? so you can go to Mars... and it will be a big leap... but then the demand will catch up, and Mars will face the same problems Earth have - overpopulation, overpollution, energy crisises, wars for resources and territory, government bullcrp, taxes, inflation, not enough workers, not enough working places, housing etc. - but that's not only part of the point. let's say people will create flying car with warp drive, working on cold fusion or whatever... at first it will be a big leap... but then people would just travel constantly. "- honey, want to go to Spain for 3 hours after work? - Sure!" boom there boom back here, no big deal. not only it would bring a ton of other problems... it would completely casualize the whole point of travel. you would ask yourself: "why did i needed it in the first place?" "why did we watch Instagram every day?" "why did we came to Mars, again?"...
@@ivanchizhikov9939 perfectly described, if it wasn't an asnwer to an comment this should be pinned. As of now even if we are able to travel to mars and start an colony there. If let's say the earth does get destroyed, our technology all around isn't advanced enough to keep the colony alive. So the whole point of keeping humanity alive would be thrown out of the window the second there is no human on earth anymore. Also what would be the living conditions of the ones who are then stuck on mars ? They are on this big red planet and can't get out of their station because the atmosphere of mars would kill them in an instant and the materials to build something to get off mars are none existing. So if nothing happens to the colony you will have generation after generation of inbred familys who probably go crazy and this shit will turn to some doom kinda stuff. Let's just focus on our lives here on earth first.
I loved seeing you on Rogan. I have a lot of respect for Joe for inviting legitimate scholars to be on the show to discuss these topics. Excellent conversation.
Good stuff as usual. I think his point about us not going back to the moon in 50 years was missed in regards to his “why” questions. Part of why is because “why not” or “because we can “. That answer works for a visit. But a sustained presence/ colony ? As Dr Keating said , the technological, biological, medical , and physical ( and more ) resources/constraints necessary are prohibitive. So the question remains - why ? And I love Joe, but any time he gets faced with any constraints or objections to possibilities his response is always ..” but what if we learn a bazillion things in the next 50 years and can turn turds into a warp drive , can we explore space then ?” Yes Joe , if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle
@@k.c.r.5974 bro ur a moron we literally are going back to the moon now and India just landed a probe on the moon and the Artemis program is what we are doing to go back to the moon
the same reason the us has bases in remote parts of the pacific. outposts present strategic advantages, most of that usefulness is not revealed until it is time to use them. sometimes the answer to why is, simply because God told me to. though im not super hard line, it's not hard to see why for me. especially when you get into mars history and the potential for a civilization there predating our own.
People like you would have objected to the concept of machinery replacing horses. It was a common refrain that there aren't roads, and imagine the logics of needing fueling stations all over the country. So why replace horses? They work perfectly fine, and anyone trying to do it is foolish and not a serious thinking like you are. Get real. History is full of garbage thinking like this, and we'd still be in the dark ages if contrarians didn't ignore the gloom and doomers and press on.
I love how he asks why we should go to space at the same time he’s stressing the point that we are running out of resources to sustain our population. Isn’t that enough reason in itself for us to start?
No, it isn't, since the attempt to colonize Mars would exhaust the remaining resources of the Earth and Mars' resources are not enough to replace those lost in the attempt.
Attempting to colonize Mars might lead to a quicker extinction of the human race. The amount of energy required to live in Mars would be at least 100x more than on Earth. Will you be willing to give up your car, home heating and AC and numerous technological gadgets and appliances to achieve that goal?
This dude is a great example of why a formal education AND practical/real world knowledge and experience are both important. He’s never left academia. His entire logic is based on theory…and every answer he gives Joe references a quote from someone, or a book he read. Elon has facilitated scientific progress, this dude rambles and loves to hear himself speak.
My favorite part is how fast he explains himself with still articulating all of the words mile a minute. Then there the wilderness guys that articulate the same way but talk a mile a hour haha
We can get to Mars. 1903 was the first human flight, a mere 66 years later, we landed on the moon. 66 YEARS! If that isn't one of the biggest technological leaps for humans I don't know what is. Mind boggling.
I would rather fix, & protect Earth. At this point in our technological timeline, putting people on Mars seems to be a stupid idea for every reason you can possibly imagine.
Bro has to chill. Hes saying "Well we better not mess earth up." Yea. Tell that to Russia, Iran, China, USA the only country to ever use a nuke. Lol. Dude is trippin
There's no current practical reason to send humans to Mars. We can't survive on it indefinitely, we can't assure travelers of a return journey, or even of their safety, can't grow anything on it, can't industrialize it in any way, can't extract anything cost-effectively from it, and can't terraform it. It's incredibly expensive to travel there, and once you landed on Mars it would be probably months to years before you could launch to return to Earth (would be my guess) because you'd have to wait for the planets to realign, which occurs only once every 26 months. No doubt most of these limitations will change in the future as technology progresses, but it's a question of when. Mars travel is irrelevant until most or all of these limitations are solved, and it could easily take centuries for that to occur. Currently absolutely none of this stuff looks likely to change anytime in the near future. If we have had no reason to return to the moon, much less ability to colonize or terraform it, for practically 50 years, despite computers that are infinitely more powerful than those of the Apollo missions, what on Earth makes anyone think the idea of colonizing Mars is something that is going to be a practical reality any time soon?
I've always have a felling when i hear people wanting to go to mars that it will be like in doom like they will open a gate or something to another dimension and let demons in...sounds silly but i always have this felling
Why so negative Brian? Elon just said to Bill Maher that we have plenty of resources. Canada is FULL of minerals. Why , Why . ask all the previous civilization that were wiped out? what about 99.90 % of all things have gone extinct, It's called LIFE.
I think he just being realistic. Why even bother deplete our limited resources to build a colony on Mars? You might say to ensure our survival as species, but why care if our lifespan is just 100yrs. When you die that's it (if you're atheist). You won't be thinking about your descendants when you're in grave. I think our ambition to colonising other planets was just us trying to fulfill our science fiction fantasy, or maybe it's just our greed.
Because in comparison there is an infinite amount of resources in our galaxy. Because Nasa and SpaceX just secured and started dragging a 10.5 decadillion dollar rare earth minerals meteorite for lower moon orbit mining. Because we just broke the light speed barrier smacking a probe with a fully functioning fusion cored reactor powering an ion based thruster with an "experimental" tachyon booster. As we speak 13 multi-hundred million dollar companies are jumping at the chance at that money. Because neuralink just finished its 100th complete brain scan in human trials. Perfectly mapping out 100 human brains from consciousness to subconsciousness. Because the envelope must allows push forward. Do I really need to give a speech or can you guys *JUST DO IT* ???
I must agree , My great,great grand children will never meet me ,nor will they care who I was ,or what I did in life . If I'm honest , Their children would be as distant and unfamiliar to me as a stranger , If I magically lived long enough to share the planet with them, Furthermore , I may seem cold and also selfish for saying so but I really couldn't care any less about the progression of humanity including my descendants beyond my Grandkids . I certainly couldn't care either way after I'm dead . If there is a place for me in heaven I'm assuming God would spare me the pain and stress of being aware of matters back here on earth . If death is final and we never know anything again, I guess we're off the hook , Just my opinion for what its worth . Nobody is ever going to set foot on Mars anyway . But if it were possible to leave the firmament dome place we call home and travel that far through all of those marvelous stars ,leaving behind mankind revolving on a ball , I can think of a whole ass list of assholes that are welcome to blast off and never come back , fall off into a black hole, Or accidentally crash into the sun or fry like hotdogs when they finally get close enough or high enough or try , won't make me cry , Bye
You only unknowingly supporting Brian. Bc the real questions are why try to relocate somewhere that is clearly not suitable to support human life? And what all for so you can end up jacking up that place or location like you have been to the earth? Long story short clearly the real problem as well as destructive unsustainable one is man or mankind. And this is simply the sad unsugar coated truth
@@AfroPick82the problem isnt "mankind". Its Zionism. A small percentage of people who are thriving and benefiting at the expense of the largest percentage of people.
Carbon never gets lost, and there is enough fossil fuel under the ground for another 2500 years, and then the earth will be so green that there will be no deserts left.
Elon watched the first Total Recall when he was a teenager and couldn’t quit thinking about those atmosphere generating pyramids aliens built hundreds of thousands of years ago.
Answered your own question Dr Keating, we need to leave the earth because there is a finite amount of resources on it and it's unsustainable to stay on our current trajectory
It’s the way I look at people doing all sorts of crazy things. I would never climb into a wing suit and fly down a mountain, but some people will do so. Why? Because they can. I think we are better for people taking those crazy steps into things that make no sense from a survival point of view, but it’s amazing people do so any way. It’s short sighted to sit back and ask why when there are those that are saying “I’m doing it”. I applaud those people
#1 Negative Debbie Downer About Humanities Future Is Dr. Brian Keating. Thank God Our Forefathers, Visionaries, Travelers, Pioneers. Philosopher's, Scientists , Exployers etc. All Weren't Like Him In Life. Why ? 😂
In the last 35 years, we have made more advancements and technology than we’ve done in the last 250 before that we can easily get to and start colonizing Mars within 100 years and we actually tried to. I don’t mean putting billionaires and CEO’s pocket for profit I mean actually invest in getting there.
We are all carbon , that's why I get a big kick out of the cost of carbon fiber parts . That's why I didn't even bigger kick out of everyone's concern about CO2 in the atmosphere . That's what plants use to grow and in turn produce oxygen for us to breathe . And it's clear that a lot of people need to breathe more because their brains are starving for oxygen .
The facts of this plateau thing are one of those bummer facts of life like Santa doesnt exist but for adults and Kaku is older brother who gets to tell everyone about it
This is the key action that continually gets missed. We need to first develop the technology to correct the damage we are doing to our earthly environment and living conditions FIRST . . . and THEN we’ll have the technologies already vetted and proven to implement as we go trans-planetary.
oh yeah we gonna run out of resources, but freaking mars has resources too , and at some point you not gonna neccesarily need earth resources that much , you could just use mars resources and then theres the asteroid belt just next there
Elon makes these massive audacious goals. The reason is he will hit other ones as he goes for the big one. This is what Ray Dalio talks about in the book Principals
This is an example of a scholar or academic who is so immersed in book knowledge that he's out of touch with reality. I bet if you asked him what Bulgaria was like he could talk for hours about Bulgaria. Then you'd ask him if he'd ever been there and he'd so, "No. I read about it and seen it from videos. It's the same thing as being there." Anyone who has worked in the construction field knows the disconnect from architects and actuality. You'll be building and come to a point SEVERAL times where you come to the conclusion that the architect is a moron. You have him come to the construction site and see for himself and he has to then make a complete change. In Buddhism, we have tons of these academics and scholars. 90% of which have zero meditation experience and if you went to a talk from one of the highest, most knowledgeable leader where he taught about compassion, loving-kindness, forgiveness, etc. you could push him and he'd flip out screaming and maybe punch you in the face. These guys are so locked into a world they created and projected that they are blinded from reality. The list of arrogant, know-it-all, obnoxious science leaders who turned out to be monumentally wrong is a loooooooong and vast one.
Realistically it'll take maybe another 50-100 years before a proper habitat is created for humans to live there long term. Definitely not in Elon's lifetime.....
I think the answer is AI and robots. The combination will take humanity to the next level. Right now robots are simple and fail at many things. I have seen robots advance a lot at my factory over the past decade. They need constant help though
We have names for our robots at work. Spider-Man. Yankee Doodle. Birthday boy. They are named after the distinct songs they play to call for an engineer when they inevitably fail every 30 minutes.
A robber comes to you with a gun and says, "Your money or your life!". You choose the latter. What would you tell a friend that later asks you why you made that particular choice especially considering that the robber could possibly have been bluffing? It's similar with our relationship with the universe. It's entirely possible that we could have some kind of a huge natural or man-made disaster that could threaten the survival of all of the complex life on Earth. Even without that, thinking long term, planetary and stellar expansion could possibly be the only way to survive in a galaxy potentially sparsely filled with other advanced alien civilizations that could at this very moment be considering starting their own expansion.
Only reason Elon wants to go to Mars is he knows something is going to happen on earth. Probably a meteor strike. I hope not. The worst place on earth is a million times better than Mars.
OR... you could just do it because its fun. I'd be a lot happier with a 34 trillion debt trying to put space stations around planets rather than war and gibs.
Yes, why not spend the time, money, and resources to protect the earth from any incoming asteroid or comets? Then, let's evolve on this planet with technology and oceans, and maybe the moon will be used as a secondary habital home for us.
There is probably only a small gap in which a species will be able to leave it domestic planet. And to have consciousness survive for billions of years, life forms need to expand into the universe.
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He is basically saying “why should we put airbags in cars?! Isn’t it better we just don’t crash to begin with.” Give me a break
yeah
Humans would die on Mars so it isn't an option.
you would reduce accidents if every car had a big steel spike in the steering wheel aimed at the driver.
people would pay attention
@@DG-mk7kd climate change is the spike and capitalism is accelerating the car towards a brick wall. Impact arrives no later than 2040.
@@DG-mk7kd and people wouldnt be so lazy with guns pointed at their heads 24/7
Dude's a wet blanket.
"Why do the things you love and make you excited for the future? Just do nothing instead..."
If you want to die on Mars, all you need to do is go there.
@@darocazaranchi2659 Sounds like they need you on the voyage?
If you want to die on Earth, all you need to do is stay here.
That's a weak argument against going.
@@Fermion. Then get to going! Good luck! You have my blessing!
Lol. I'm just saying, we're all going to die, Earth will be engulfed by the Sun when it dies, and every trace of our existence will be atomized.
An early death by an early human interplanetary explorer in their 40s instead of 80s would be insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The risk is worth the reward.
@@Kenneth-ts7bpif u want to get to mars tell the USA that their oil their .
The weirdest thing is how Werner von Braun wrote a book about this. The main character was named Elon as well
Buh....what?
@@Hh-yd3dj, yep.
Written 1948 in US
Oh yeah, I had forgot that this.
I bet Elon read this at an impressionable age.
"why do you go to mars so bad?"
why do you get out of bed?
Who says I do?
@@eugkra33they think that Elon Musk is smart
Well I get out of bed to go pee.
Do you feel such a need to go pee on Mars when you get out of bed?
Why? Because it would be amazing. We don't need anymore reason than that.
Can't say I agree with this guy...he's basing his opinions and thoughts assuming there is no progress in other areas of science. AI could help us solve the sutainable energy problem and then all of his fossil fuel arguments go out the window for example.
no ai just mashes together information and presents it in a way to trick stupid people like you into believing its actually thinking
he was not talking about only fossil fuels though...
he was talking about tech and progress in general.
the point was, every time people invent something or made progress - it gets popular or/and overused by people to the point progress is not matters anymore.
he was giving example of computers and internet... modern tech in that area is million times better that old tech... but people also want million times more from it as well. so in the bigger scheme of things, the progress doesn't matter... 20 years ago people watched pictures on the internet... now we have 1000x times the power, but we still watch pictures on internet. why? because pictures are now 1000x crispier, and we do that a lot more.
so tech gets better but we also demand more and more form it.
at some point humans didn't knew how to preserve food. but now we have refrigerators... but we still get spoiled food in the markets. why? because not only we want fresh food... we want scecific food any day of the year, in the closest market to us, with a ton of variety...
so now all that companies work for us 24/7, produce the said fruit out of season, store it, transport it over the ocean, put it on a shelf ect... and for you, who could just say "meh, i want brasilian bananas, and not argentinian"
see?
so you can go to Mars... and it will be a big leap... but then the demand will catch up, and Mars will face the same problems Earth have - overpopulation, overpollution, energy crisises, wars for resources and territory, government bullcrp, taxes, inflation, not enough workers, not enough working places, housing etc. - but that's not only part of the point.
let's say people will create flying car with warp drive, working on cold fusion or whatever... at first it will be a big leap... but then people would just travel constantly. "- honey, want to go to Spain for 3 hours after work? - Sure!" boom there boom back here, no big deal. not only it would bring a ton of other problems... it would completely casualize the whole point of travel. you would ask yourself: "why did i needed it in the first place?"
"why did we watch Instagram every day?"
"why did we came to Mars, again?"...
@@ivanchizhikov9939 perfectly described, if it wasn't an asnwer to an comment this should be pinned. As of now even if we are able to travel to mars and start an colony there. If let's say the earth does get destroyed, our technology all around isn't advanced enough to keep the colony alive. So the whole point of keeping humanity alive would be thrown out of the window the second there is no human on earth anymore. Also what would be the living conditions of the ones who are then stuck on mars ? They are on this big red planet and can't get out of their station because the atmosphere of mars would kill them in an instant and the materials to build something to get off mars are none existing. So if nothing happens to the colony you will have generation after generation of inbred familys who probably go crazy and this shit will turn to some doom kinda stuff. Let's just focus on our lives here on earth first.
The moon trip created a generation of people interested in science
Elon estimates it would cost between $100 billion to $10 trillion to put a colony on Mars.
Nobody has that kind of money to spend.
I loved seeing you on Rogan. I have a lot of respect for Joe for inviting legitimate scholars to be on the show to discuss these topics. Excellent conversation.
Good stuff as usual.
I think his point about us not going back to the moon in 50 years was missed in regards to his “why” questions. Part of why is because “why not” or “because we can “. That answer works for a visit. But a sustained presence/ colony ? As Dr Keating said , the technological, biological, medical , and physical ( and more ) resources/constraints necessary are prohibitive. So the question remains - why ?
And I love Joe, but any time he gets faced with any constraints or objections to possibilities his response is always ..” but what if we learn a bazillion things in the next 50 years and can turn turds into a warp drive , can we explore space then ?” Yes Joe , if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle
Can't go back to a place we've never been. Human travel beyond low earth orbit is impossible. The question is why?
@@k.c.r.5974 bro ur a moron we literally are going back to the moon now and India just landed a probe on the moon and the Artemis program is what we are doing to go back to the moon
the same reason the us has bases in remote parts of the pacific. outposts present strategic advantages, most of that usefulness is not revealed until it is time to use them. sometimes the answer to why is, simply because God told me to. though im not super hard line, it's not hard to see why for me. especially when you get into mars history and the potential for a civilization there predating our own.
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People like you would have objected to the concept of machinery replacing horses. It was a common refrain that there aren't roads, and imagine the logics of needing fueling stations all over the country. So why replace horses? They work perfectly fine, and anyone trying to do it is foolish and not a serious thinking like you are. Get real. History is full of garbage thinking like this, and we'd still be in the dark ages if contrarians didn't ignore the gloom and doomers and press on.
I will never understand this guys thinking. Why did Europeans cross the Atlantic? There was plenty of resources across Europe.
I love how he asks why we should go to space at the same time he’s stressing the point that we are running out of resources to sustain our population. Isn’t that enough reason in itself for us to start?
so stupid to ask why should preserve our life and life of humanity , oh you want to die? then yeah just go die , we dont want to die
No, it isn't, since the attempt to colonize Mars would exhaust the remaining resources of the Earth and Mars' resources are not enough to replace those lost in the attempt.
Attempting to colonize Mars might lead to a quicker extinction of the human race. The amount of energy required to live in Mars would be at least 100x more than on Earth. Will you be willing to give up your car, home heating and AC and numerous technological gadgets and appliances to achieve that goal?
how do you remember to breathe?
@@koumorichinpo4326 there ain't no oxygen on Mars. Try breathing there.
This dude is a great example of why a formal education AND practical/real world knowledge and experience are both important. He’s never left academia. His entire logic is based on theory…and every answer he gives Joe references a quote from someone, or a book he read. Elon has facilitated scientific progress, this dude rambles and loves to hear himself speak.
You know what is actually important?
Meet God.
Spend eternity with Him.
Awesome, didn't know you went on Rogan. Will have to give it a listen.
My favorite part is how fast he explains himself with still articulating all of the words mile a minute. Then there the wilderness guys that articulate the same way but talk a mile a hour haha
We go to mars for the same reason we left the caves and we left the trees before that.
Yep, there must be great fruit on Mars...😅
'Cause we can't just sit on our butts where it's safe, right.
I bet Dr Brian Keating occasionally argues with his WMAP beach ball "companion" a bit like a marooned Tom Hanks remonstrating with Wilson lol
Truth 😂
We can get to Mars. 1903 was the first human flight, a mere 66 years later, we landed on the moon. 66 YEARS! If that isn't one of the biggest technological leaps for humans I don't know what is. Mind boggling.
“Why”
is my favorite question to ask 😂
this guy does not know how to stay on a topic and completely answer a question for his life
Can't wait until Mars demands independence and interplanetary war breaks out.
Keating’s not a bad guest at all. It’s interesting seeing him being interviewed rather than seeing him doing the interviews.
I would rather fix, & protect Earth. At this point in our technological timeline, putting people on Mars seems to be a stupid idea for every reason you can possibly imagine.
Bro has to chill. Hes saying "Well we better not mess earth up." Yea. Tell that to Russia, Iran, China, USA the only country to ever use a nuke. Lol. Dude is trippin
People do things because they can. That's why.
no thats not why , we want to survive and thrive and expand to other planets , its a logical thing , growth and expansion , it makes sense
@@AXharoth growth and expansion - Hitler 1939, cancer today.
@@AXharoth At what cost and with whose blood, sweat and tears? Ask yourself...what are you willing to sacrifice. Because it will take a sacrifice!
You don’t comprehend the magnitude of change in performance coming from quantum computing
There's no current practical reason to send humans to Mars. We can't survive on it indefinitely, we can't assure travelers of a return journey, or even of their safety, can't grow anything on it, can't industrialize it in any way, can't extract anything cost-effectively from it, and can't terraform it. It's incredibly expensive to travel there, and once you landed on Mars it would be probably months to years before you could launch to return to Earth (would be my guess) because you'd have to wait for the planets to realign, which occurs only once every 26 months. No doubt most of these limitations will change in the future as technology progresses, but it's a question of when. Mars travel is irrelevant until most or all of these limitations are solved, and it could easily take centuries for that to occur. Currently absolutely none of this stuff looks likely to change anytime in the near future. If we have had no reason to return to the moon, much less ability to colonize or terraform it, for practically 50 years, despite computers that are infinitely more powerful than those of the Apollo missions, what on Earth makes anyone think the idea of colonizing Mars is something that is going to be a practical reality any time soon?
Why do we prefer decentralized blockchains ? same applies for humanity. The same applies for money, don't put all your money in one boot
Elon staggers out on the Martian surface: "At last I'm home!" Let's face it, we all know he's an alien.
This guy is the biggest Rogan fan e.g. he knows what’s every guest has said
Just saw you on JRE. Just subscribed. Ready to hear more
Welcome aboard!
Forget mars we need a habitable planet🙄
the planet is not about to become uninhabitable anytime soon
Haha this guy tried to get philosophical and Joe answers his questions in half a second
I wonder if you upload full version of this somewhere?
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If you ask "why," someone says "why not." Just effing do it.
And this guy has a doctorate?
I've always have a felling when i hear people wanting to go to mars that it will be like in doom like they will open a gate or something to another dimension and let demons in...sounds silly but i always have this felling
Why so negative Brian? Elon just said to Bill Maher that we have plenty of resources. Canada is FULL of minerals. Why , Why . ask all the previous civilization that were wiped out? what about 99.90 % of all things have gone extinct, It's called LIFE.
I think he just being realistic. Why even bother deplete our limited resources to build a colony on Mars? You might say to ensure our survival as species, but why care if our lifespan is just 100yrs. When you die that's it (if you're atheist). You won't be thinking about your descendants when you're in grave. I think our ambition to colonising other planets was just us trying to fulfill our science fiction fantasy, or maybe it's just our greed.
Because in comparison there is an infinite amount of resources in our galaxy. Because Nasa and SpaceX just secured and started dragging a 10.5 decadillion dollar rare earth minerals meteorite for lower moon orbit mining. Because we just broke the light speed barrier smacking a probe with a fully functioning fusion cored reactor powering an ion based thruster with an "experimental" tachyon booster. As we speak 13 multi-hundred million dollar companies are jumping at the chance at that money. Because neuralink just finished its 100th complete brain scan in human trials. Perfectly mapping out 100 human brains from consciousness to subconsciousness. Because the envelope must allows push forward.
Do I really need to give a speech or can you guys *JUST DO IT* ???
I must agree , My great,great grand children will never meet me ,nor will they care who I was ,or what I did in life . If I'm honest , Their children would be as distant and unfamiliar to me as a stranger , If I magically lived long enough to share the planet with them, Furthermore , I may seem cold and also selfish for saying so but I really couldn't care any less about the progression of humanity including my descendants beyond my Grandkids . I certainly couldn't care either way after I'm dead . If there is a place for me in heaven I'm assuming God would spare me the pain and stress of being aware of matters back here on earth . If death is final and we never know anything again, I guess we're off the hook , Just my opinion for what its worth .
Nobody is ever going to set foot on Mars anyway . But if it were possible to leave the firmament dome place we call home and travel that far through all of those marvelous stars ,leaving behind mankind revolving on a ball , I can think of a whole ass list of assholes that are welcome to blast off and never come back , fall off into a black hole, Or accidentally crash into the sun or fry like hotdogs when they finally get close enough or high enough or try , won't make me cry , Bye
You only unknowingly supporting Brian. Bc the real questions are why try to relocate somewhere that is clearly not suitable to support human life? And what all for so you can end up jacking up that place or location like you have been to the earth? Long story short clearly the real problem as well as destructive unsustainable one is man or mankind. And this is simply the sad unsugar coated truth
@@AfroPick82the problem isnt "mankind". Its Zionism. A small percentage of people who are thriving and benefiting at the expense of the largest percentage of people.
Elon is the only billionaire that seems to care about the decency and the future of humanity.
Carbon never gets lost, and there is enough fossil fuel under the ground for another 2500 years, and then the earth will be so green that there will be no deserts left.
What about Earth gravity spinning O'Neill cylinders? It would be a much easier & practical solution than colonizing Mars
Wow! I didn't realise until now that Dr Brain Keating is actually a reincarnation of Thomas Robert Malthus!
Asking the "Why" gets to know the real truths of life
Elon watched the first Total Recall when he was a teenager and couldn’t quit thinking about those atmosphere generating pyramids aliens built hundreds of thousands of years ago.
He keeps asking why and thinks it’s deep, nobody needs a super deep reasons that never ends…
We can't live on Mars we can only hibernate
Thankfully, Elon just doesn't have it to be the next Bond Villain.
Answered your own question Dr Keating, we need to leave the earth because there is a finite amount of resources on it and it's unsustainable to stay on our current trajectory
The Martian Chronicles by Ray Bradbury
If, say the earth only had 100 years left.. humans would set foot on mars in 5 and none of us would mate the trip
God created the planet Mars because he knew that humans would need a second planet to survive. Another proof of his love for us!
Goofy! Nobody has ever gone to the moon or any other place outside of the atmosphere!!!
Our technological progress isn't truly progress, "we" are merely migrating onto nonbioloical platform... That's all
Ummm...just move to the Sahara!? Then say good luck...
Whats the point of anything? A "Dr" who studied to get a piece of paper claims doing other things have no point.
It’s the way I look at people doing all sorts of crazy things. I would never climb into a wing suit and fly down a mountain, but some people will do so. Why? Because they can. I think we are better for people taking those crazy steps into things that make no sense from a survival point of view, but it’s amazing people do so any way. It’s short sighted to sit back and ask why when there are those that are saying “I’m doing it”. I applaud those people
#1 Negative Debbie Downer About Humanities Future Is Dr. Brian Keating. Thank God Our Forefathers, Visionaries, Travelers, Pioneers. Philosopher's, Scientists , Exployers etc.
All Weren't Like Him In Life.
Why ? 😂
In the last 35 years, we have made more advancements and technology than we’ve done in the last 250 before that we can easily get to and start colonizing Mars within 100 years and we actually tried to. I don’t mean putting billionaires and CEO’s pocket for profit I mean actually invest in getting there.
your arguments do not make sense.
Elon has aged so much as of late, by this photo !?
Why not clean up earth first?
Yes I agree
8 billion people on earth. Enough to chew bubble gum and walk at the same time.
Why would we reach for the stars? Oh I don't know it's called human endeavor
We are all carbon , that's why I get a big kick out of the cost of carbon fiber parts . That's why I didn't even bigger kick out of everyone's concern about CO2 in the atmosphere . That's what plants use to grow and in turn produce oxygen for us to breathe . And it's clear that a lot of people need to breathe more because their brains are starving for oxygen .
Because I freaking said so, go back to sleep 😂 Tell me daddy, why aren't you the all-knowing?
everything came from the question , the question is not "why?" , the question was and is , what if ? 😘
The mars landing will too be faked 😂
"For all mankind" nice show. He should watch it.
The facts of this plateau thing are one of those bummer facts of life like Santa doesnt exist but for adults and Kaku is older brother who gets to tell everyone about it
We'll go to Mars for the same reason we do anything, financial gain.
This is the key action that continually gets missed. We need to first develop the technology to correct the damage we are doing to our earthly environment and living conditions FIRST . . . and THEN we’ll have the technologies already vetted and proven to implement as we go trans-planetary.
Where did the fossil fuels on Titan come from Brian. Not fossils!
oh yeah we gonna run out of resources, but freaking mars has resources too , and at some point you not gonna neccesarily need earth resources that much , you could just use mars resources and then theres the asteroid belt just next there
Mars doesn't have the resources necessary to sustain a single human life.
Nobody....gets to mars......... nor anywhere else....but Alaska......Earth is the centre.
So why do anything is this guys point? No thanks man you go ahead and have fun with that. Now lets find a way to get to mars.
Crude oil isn't made from fossils Sir.... and there isn't a finite amount.
Think I’m going to give “why” a break in my vocabulary after this - reputation, reputation, reputation.
Elon makes these massive audacious goals. The reason is he will hit other ones as he goes for the big one. This is what Ray Dalio talks about in the book Principals
Mars is way too far away, once u go you’re not coming back
This is an example of a scholar or academic who is so immersed in book knowledge that he's out of touch with reality. I bet if you asked him what Bulgaria was like he could talk for hours about Bulgaria. Then you'd ask him if he'd ever been there and he'd so, "No. I read about it and seen it from videos. It's the same thing as being there."
Anyone who has worked in the construction field knows the disconnect from architects and actuality. You'll be building and come to a point SEVERAL times where you come to the conclusion that the architect is a moron. You have him come to the construction site and see for himself and he has to then make a complete change.
In Buddhism, we have tons of these academics and scholars. 90% of which have zero meditation experience and if you went to a talk from one of the highest, most knowledgeable leader where he taught about compassion, loving-kindness, forgiveness, etc. you could push him and he'd flip out screaming and maybe punch you in the face.
These guys are so locked into a world they created and projected that they are blinded from reality. The list of arrogant, know-it-all, obnoxious science leaders who turned out to be monumentally wrong is a loooooooong and vast one.
Why ask why....For the development of lifekind
Got you were on Rogan
So, if it was up to this guy, we would still be in the Stone Age. The reason why is that were human and that's what we do.
We will never go there. We will never colonise other planets. Why? Because we are not able to.
Joe wants to go.
brian cringe
Realistically it'll take maybe another 50-100 years before a proper habitat is created for humans to live there long term. Definitely not in Elon's lifetime.....
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I think the answer is AI and robots. The combination will take humanity to the next level. Right now robots are simple and fail at many things. I have seen robots advance a lot at my factory over the past decade. They need constant help though
We have names for our robots at work. Spider-Man. Yankee Doodle. Birthday boy. They are named after the distinct songs they play to call for an engineer when they inevitably fail every 30 minutes.
Elon is never going to Mars
A robber comes to you with a gun and says, "Your money or your life!". You choose the latter. What would you tell a friend that later asks you why you made that particular choice especially considering that the robber could possibly have been bluffing?
It's similar with our relationship with the universe. It's entirely possible that we could have some kind of a huge natural or man-made disaster that could threaten the survival of all of the complex life on Earth. Even without that, thinking long term, planetary and stellar expansion could possibly be the only way to survive in a galaxy potentially sparsely filled with other advanced alien civilizations that could at this very moment be considering starting their own expansion.
Only reason Elon wants to go to Mars is he knows something is going to happen on earth. Probably a meteor strike. I hope not. The worst place on earth is a million times better than Mars.
OR... you could just do it because its fun. I'd be a lot happier with a 34 trillion debt trying to put space stations around planets rather than war and gibs.
There is no disaster on Earth that would make it worse than living on Mars.
Jump rooms to mars
Yes, why not spend the time, money, and resources to protect the earth from any incoming asteroid or comets? Then, let's evolve on this planet with technology and oceans, and maybe the moon will be used as a secondary habital home for us.
There is probably only a small gap in which a species will be able to leave it domestic planet. And to have consciousness survive for billions of years, life forms need to expand into the universe.
Why do anything in life?
Go to the moon 1st elon or explore the ocean lol