@@SenseiSeth i bet there isn't a single person so serious that they can withstand the fun of vr... that could be a whole channel. Very Serious People Playing VR
@@hard2hurt go make your vids and leave seth alone if you dont like the videos dont watch them simple as that stop coming here and crying that his videos are not fun or whatever
"no one will know the violence it took to become this gentle" The man is almost a D&D monk, and still cheerfull and wholesome.... ngl, kinda scary but also kinda inspiring.... Cool vod Sensei Seth...
I just finished the sumo competition video, look the way Seth deep dives into obscure martial arts is why he has my favorite channel. Petition for Seth to get a Netflix series where each episode is him devoting himself to some random form of combat
I have a Quest 2 as well, and the thing I find so fascinating about it is the way that you sometimes 'feel' the kinetic response from thin air. Sifu isn't parrying solid arms, his fists aren't hitting flesh, but he's responding like he is - until you try it, you probably won't believe how easy it is to get immersed in the fiction. I played the 'Vader Immortal' games, and just by good use of sound and a momentary pause in motion, it really feels like you are sword fighting, even though you obviously aren't making contact with a blade. I'll have to give this game a go too, it seems like a good way to train at home if you don't have a training partner and shadowboxing has lost it's appeal. Edit: there's loads of good boxing games on Quest too.
I really want to see another video with this guy where he showcases some techniques. Kung fu still seems cool to me even though i've only done combat sports and spent an ungodly amount of time debating self proclaimed kung fu masters on the internet about how dumb they are. Anyways, cool video, this guy has got some cool tricks up his sleeve.
And that is your problem. Ego and Willful Ignorance. You have No real depth of Knowledge in these Arts... yet somehow... you "Believe" that you have all of the Answers. You do realize, that the Chinese basically created the fighting arts that most sport artists are using today... right? Karate was created by Japanese that were traveling through ancient China. They saw some Chinese doing the arts. I believe it was "White Crane". They asked, and were granted permission, to learn this art. I believe they had learned the basic foundations of it... but didnt stick around long enough to learn the complete system (or the Chinese held back some of it). These Japanese brought back what they learned to Japan. Originally, the Japanese called it "China Hand"... but over time... and as they altered some things... they called it "Open Hand" (Which is the basic translation of Karate). As the Industrial revolution hit... the Japanese started to change their arts even further... because there was rarely a need for hand to hand combat... and, there was less and less time to Train the arts on a Hardcore level. As such, certain hardcore Combat training methods (such as tying heavy stone blocks to ones legs + gripping them in your hands... while doing forms, and while kicking and striking) were removed from their Art. Eventually, Sparring would get less and less contact... and rules were put in place to "Sportize" it, for greater safety, and to promote a sport form of Competition (at the expense of combat accuracy and realism). The other nail in the coffin, was the use of soft sparring gear, such as gloves... and soft targets like heavy bags (instead of Makiwara boards, and other conditioning methods). Karate wasnt the only art to fall to this either. Aikido had a former version, that had Striking within it. A certain master of that art... decided that he no longer wanted to promote Violence... and so he removed pretty much all striking methods from the art, and changed the name of the art as well (I think the older version was Aikijutsu, or Aikijujitsu). On the other side of things... was China's corrupted rulers. Around the industrial revolution era... Mao came into power, and brainwashed the Chinese youth into tearing apart the entire country... with his "Cultural Revolution". Mao eventually BANNED all practice and teaching of all combat arts (as well as many other things). If you were caught.. you would have been tortured and executed... and likely, they would have probably executed a few generations worth of your family, just to make sure that the knowledge was stamped out of existence... as they didnt want ANY form of Rebellion to Challenge their Iron Fist Rulership. These dudes were so evil... that they were actually paying certain Kung Fu schools / styles... to destroy (end) other Schools / Practitioners. And when they decided to destroy the Shaolin Temple... they just over-ran the monks with sheer Masses of Troops, and then Burned the entire thing to the Ground. All throughout China's History, there have been select leaders that had had certain ban periods on the arts. However, the Chinese people kept practicing in secret, to keep their arts alive. The Cultural Revolution ban, I believe lasted over 60 yrs, before they eventually lifted it. Due to the war, and the K!llings that transpired... many of China's arts were completely lost, and would never be revived. However, many Chinese citizens did in fact keep practicing their arts in secret, and passing them down from father to son... and or, to a select few non family members. When the Bans lifted... Many schools slowly started to re-open (a lot were still very fearful of things quickly changing back), But things were never the same. You see... The Chinese arts were designed to be learned from as young as 3 yrs old... and the training was meant to be +8hrs a day, 7 days a week, virtually 365 days a year. It was many mens daily way of life. These arts were incredibly Brutal, and Deep in knowledge / skillsets to be learned + Mastered... which is why they would take anywhere from 15 to 20 yrs to fully learn and master them. Arts like Tai Chi, and Shaolin, have something like +15 different weapons to be learned/mastered. And no, Tai Chi wasnt just an Old Person exercise, or a Form-Only based art. It actually has some of the highest level of combat technology within its teachings... The problem of course, would be that these arts also had to decide whether or not to Change to suit the new age... in which people no longer had the time to train such long hours... and in the potential, to remove certain hardcore training methods... and or even removing weapons training altogether. But unlike many other arts... Many of the Chinese teachers tried very hard to maintain their Traditional Arts Integrity, and High Quality... rather than to change them, and water them down. As such... The many modern practitioners tended to learn and develop at a Much slower pace... and many never had the time to fully absorb and fully master any of the material that was taught to them. They just didnt have the time to dedicate to it... as they could no longer train the needed +8hrs per day... due to having to get a Job, and make enough money to survive. Heck... many of these teachers, may not have even been in Top physical condition anymore... because again.. there just wasnt enough time. Furthermore... a lot of the arts that were being taught after the bans lifting, was in Hong Kong... as the British were in control of that area... making it much safer, and far less likely for the Commies to change their minds, and take out their schools + them. And the problem with Hong Kong... was that the city was so Densely packed... that living areas, and training areas, were really small... and Property costs per square foot... were extremely high. As such... you could no longer afford to have these massive sized schools / Dojo's. And since the school sizes were small... they could no longer perform their ancient forms... because these forms had a lot of footwork in them... and would take up far too much Floorspace. As such... modern Masters like Yipman.. changed all of the forms of Wing Chun... to be much Shorter in length, complexity, and to require far less footwork / space. In fact, he also had to have someone design a new wooden dummy, to be "Portable" to install in his high-rise apartment based school... because the Traditional dummies were merely sunk deep into the Dirt. They didnt "Move" at all... nor did the dummy limbs move either. And since the Older dummy didnt move when you connected with it... you actually had to take an additional step, to put yourself in the proper positions. With the new moving dummy limbs.. you no longer needed to take those additional steps for alignment... and so Yipman was able to redesign the dummy form, to be easier and more realistic to actual fighting applications. The only problem was.. that the original dummy was also supposed to be to toughen your limbs and body... and the new dummy.. being so Springy.. reduces the impact based conditioning. Also, the moving arms require thinner wood sections... and if you hit them with too much power.. they will easily Break... so your arm conditioning will be vastly reduced in intensity levels. Anyway... Corruptions have also entered many of these Chinese arts, in the modern day... but.. they tend to be far less corrupted than any of the other worlds combat arts... again.. due to the Chinese wanting to maintain their arts historical and proven effective natures. Yes, all of these arts were WELL tested, and were used in ACTUAL combat, for over 2000 yrs worth of Combat + Advancing developments that would result from these fights / battles. Today, very few people train these Chinese arts the way that they need to be trained.. and so, most of these practitioners do not fair well, in even basic level sparring against much lower tier Arts Artists. The problem isnt the art.. but in fact, the Laziness of the modern citizens. However, certain practitioners, such as myself... and a few rare others that Ive met along the way... pushed ourselves to Masterclass levels of performance in these arts. And let me tell you... they work just as effective today, as they did +2000 yrs ago. Im speaking from 30 yrs of experience, spanning many different artforms... and sparring against fighters of all arts... including modern MMA fighters. In fact, some of the concept behind MMA, is in trying to rediscover the wheel, of what was already lost.. due to Sportization of many of the arts that they Borrowed from. The problem is.. that MMA is still based on Sportized methods, competition, and rulesets.. and it refused to take along the specialized combat level "Attribute" building exercises + drills... that gave many of the techs that they "Stole", their greater strength, power, accuracy...etc. MMA is mostly Grapple Centric focused.. has no training against multiples, and rarely has any weapons training. And while they condition their Shins to take a beating... they rarely condition any other part of their bodies... including their baby soft fists. (Unlike full Body, Iron Body conditioning methods, which toughen every part of the body, to be dense like Iron). Basically Put... there is a huge Wealth of Superior Combat Knowledge, that people COULD be benefitting from... in these "Lesser-Corrupted" combat arts... but they are so wrapped up in EGO, and poor Assumptions.. that they merely waste time spouting bad attitudes, and complete and utter Ignorance. I say this is someone that has studied both the Traditional arts.. as well as the Sportized arts methods... as well as a formerly Ignorant fool.
Im going to add... that knowledge and "Techniques" are not "TRICKS". At one time, I had an MMA fighter over, whom was learning some things from me... in addition to his MMA training. His teacher was a typical MMA / Muay Thai kickboxer type... but he was semi open minded.. and taught this kid his own version of a Wing Chun Pak-Sao (palm based arm deflection). I had him try it on me.. and he palmed my arm away.. took a step to the side.. and then stepped in with a strike (which I allowed). I then told him.. while this was better than what most MMA fighters learn... its still not the same as the real deal... I showed him... for example.. that his use of a Side-Step after the palm, was not needed... and that when he chose to side-step.. he only gave me more time to read and defend against him... as it vastly slowed things down. I also showed him, that if he tried to do this tech.. and I knew what he was trying to do.. I could Tense up and "Stonewall" his technique altogether... rendering it Useless... and putting him in danger of my potential counters. And I finally showed him the correct version, in which I didnt have to Side-Step... which he realized was far Faster, and impossible for him to defend against. He quickly understood.. that his and his coaches shallow "Visual" based replication... was not even close to the actual methods of the technique. And... how much more training it would take... to develop the proper Skillset.. rather than just using a very simplified parry. There are drills to develop power, accuracy, and proper Vector control, for this single technique. There is specific footwork, that needs to be trained in coordination and perfect Sync with it. There is special Breathing methods involved, for more overall power (very different than the teeth-breathing that MMA does). There are drills for Stamina / Fatigue.. such as a nonstop 20 minute pak/punch partner drill. There is palm and arm conditioning methods involved. There is Speed development drills, that can double your acceleration and top speed of your limbs. There is a whole series of drills, that both show how and when to use this tech... and how its used in different ways, positions, ranges, and situations (and when and why NOT to use it). And there are drills that teach what to do when the tech is stonewalled / neutralized, and countered.. as well as followups to the OPs various next movements / attacks. It could easily take more than half a year of Attribute and Skill building.. to develop a Masterclass level of this Techniques full potentials, and proper repeatable working usage. So, while MMA's idea of simply slapping the OPs arm seemed like a perfectly fine "TRICK"... its in fact, far more IN-Depth than that. Just like Grappling, is far more complex in depth, than what most whom started to learn it... may have initially expected. And how much longer it took to develop your grappling skillsets, and bodily attributes.. than you may have expected. And how that... if you make a single technical error while trying to perform your grappling techs... that the OP can easily escape, stop, and or counter you. While MMA seems to be fully understanding on what it takes to learn and master good Grappling... they have Zero clue about anything outside of their training, such as found in Chinese combat arts. But you wouldnt know it... from the way that they somehow "Expertly" debunk you with their ignorant and Baseless "Assumptions".
@@johndough8115 Dude, the people i debated with showed me now proof of their techniques being applicable and they claimed to be inventors of their own styles, none of which were pressure tested. You took my comment here a bit to seriously, i just said "tricks" as in things that i personally haven't seen before.
@@johndough8115 UGH! Why cant guys like you ever be in my area! Lol great write up! Id love to train with a true traditionalist like you. While I am not a specific kung fu stylist, I have an in depth understanding of the mechanics and application (thru my study of martial arts as a holistic entity). There is an untapped wellspring of martial value in the various styles of kung fu that are at best being forgotten, and at worst being eliminated through disparagement from the ignorant. Keep training, and I hope you are able to pass your knowledge onto many more people.
Dude is a Kung Fu Master both reality and virtual reality. This was absolutely amazing, the way he beat those ninjas was masterful 😄. Oh and good job beating up girls Seth 😄.
Brilliant video. Wondered how well others would do on this amazing game. It's one of my favourite VR games and the fighting and physics are incredible. Nicely done 👍
Seth you gotta revisit these with the quest 3 ! The color pass through mode or “mixed reality” of this game is nuts. You can fight them in your actual living room Or in a gym so you never run into anything and it’s like there’s a virtual person standing in front of you in reality.
Wow, you're already demonstrating here with the VR training where the journey of some dojos or schools is heading in the future, and thank you for providing this insight, Sensei Seth. This is definitely the next level compared to Zoom online training. Thank you for the video and I wish you continued success in your upcoming shoots.
Oh also seth could you possibly do a video on when to attack in sparring (like cues, reading you opponent and just good openings and times to attack) 🙃
I'd love to see seths and anyone he seems might be a good person to talk to about it play Rumble VR (earthbending) and maybe even play some matches. I just think its really cool and arouses my hope for the future of gaming, hopefully in my lifetime.
Not sure how good (applicaple) Sifus Xing Yi is but itd be cool to see one of my main styles get some attention. It has great angle work and is often overlooked because of the popularity of styles like Wing Chun. Also, if this guy has chinese/mongolian wrestling techniques in his kung fu, you might have found a serious diamond in the rough.
The VR Kung Fu thing looks... objectively terrible for practicing Kung Fu (sorry), but I have to say your overall thesis that VR can be a training tool is great! After seeing your vids I started using Thrill of the Fight to get some at home "sparring" practice for Krav Maga classes and I think it actually helps. It's amazing exercise, but it seems to also trigger the part of your brain involved in reading punches, defense and striking. Love to see more videos using that app!
I like Rantons content a lot but I don't want to see Shaolin fookery. There are better systems under the CMA umbrella. Let's see some Longfist, Xing Yi, Shuai Jiao etc.
I'm seeing this and now I'm really wanting Sensei Seth to find some elite (or elite-ish) athletes from other sports who have no fighting experience and see how they do, and what they're good at. Personally, I've always wondered if my High-jump and hurdles experience and training would develop some muscle groups useful in a fight... for more then running away that is. I'm quite confident I'd be good at that.
Shaolin style movements with double hand strikes to high / low are the best for this game, with an added kick for a triple strike in one go. Doesn't really matter what character you're using, just chop instead of punch if you are playing as a karate guy or palm strike etc. The A.I doesn't know what to do. Only on the highest difficulty is this method even remotely risky. You can chain stun an opponent to death.
It doesn't look very pretty translated from VR play but he got some good moves. I wonder how long it took to adapt to the VR - it always makes me dizzy starting off.
Hey Seth can you create a another comparison video about different types of kickboxing like Muay Thai and American kickboxing and dutch kickboxing and sanda
@@arbogast4950 It's because of the elbows and knees and the allowance of clinch. On top of that kickboxing has a whole story of how it was kicked off the island of Thailand iirc
I would love to have a local martial arts school that opens in the morning. I work two jobs, and I'm a parent. The only time I have to myself is in the morning after I drop my kid off at school, and every martial arts school and boxing gym within driving distance opens at 4 p.m. or later.
to answer the question, is it just that kung fu guy get up early, speaking as someone who gets up at 7:30 am every Sunday for 8 am class, I can say, yes yes they do and it's a pain.
If VR is ever going to really pop off they need to make spectating it look better than it does. Watching someone play VR is so primitive it hurts. Its nothing like what the person experiences.
Alright, now make the Sifu play Sifu!
💯!!
This comment is fantastic.
And Absolver.
They can even use my character so they have all the moves unlocked
VR Sifu would be something else
@@Noah-pc6wq it would be weird since probably none of us know even a trace of Pak Mei
Props to this guy for humoring your nonsense.
He was having just as much fun as I was lol
@@SenseiSeth i bet there isn't a single person so serious that they can withstand the fun of vr... that could be a whole channel. Very Serious People Playing VR
Or the fun of Seth for that matter
I know countless marines who practice drills together in onward vr ma guy. Many serious people use vr.
@@hard2hurt go make your vids and leave seth alone if you dont like the videos dont watch them simple as that stop coming here and crying that his videos are not fun or whatever
"no one will know the violence it took to become this gentle"
The man is almost a D&D monk, and still cheerfull and wholesome.... ngl, kinda scary but also kinda inspiring.... Cool vod Sensei Seth...
Sifu Chris is such a down to earth guy.
I get back from my own Kung Fu class and see Seth upload a Kung Fu video? It’s a Kung Fu-athon for me baby.
Gotta give this man foot trackers and those high tech handles that track every finger.
Even put him in Boneworks.
not boneworks, Blade and Sorcery!
0:24 The first time someone STARTS playing video games this early in the morning, mind you ;)
Fair point
this game now has pvp multiplayer so you can fight real humans now!!!
I just finished the sumo competition video, look the way Seth deep dives into obscure martial arts is why he has my favorite channel. Petition for Seth to get a Netflix series where each episode is him devoting himself to some random form of combat
Chris Heintzman is a BEAST! Keeping the old school Kung Fu alive.
I have a Quest 2 as well, and the thing I find so fascinating about it is the way that you sometimes 'feel' the kinetic response from thin air. Sifu isn't parrying solid arms, his fists aren't hitting flesh, but he's responding like he is - until you try it, you probably won't believe how easy it is to get immersed in the fiction. I played the 'Vader Immortal' games, and just by good use of sound and a momentary pause in motion, it really feels like you are sword fighting, even though you obviously aren't making contact with a blade. I'll have to give this game a go too, it seems like a good way to train at home if you don't have a training partner and shadowboxing has lost it's appeal. Edit: there's loads of good boxing games on Quest too.
I really want to see another video with this guy where he showcases some techniques. Kung fu still seems cool to me even though i've only done combat sports and spent an ungodly amount of time debating self proclaimed kung fu masters on the internet about how dumb they are. Anyways, cool video, this guy has got some cool tricks up his sleeve.
He’s been in a couple videos now!
And that is your problem. Ego and Willful Ignorance. You have No real depth of Knowledge in these Arts... yet somehow... you "Believe" that you have all of the Answers. You do realize, that the Chinese basically created the fighting arts that most sport artists are using today... right? Karate was created by Japanese that were traveling through ancient China. They saw some Chinese doing the arts. I believe it was "White Crane". They asked, and were granted permission, to learn this art. I believe they had learned the basic foundations of it... but didnt stick around long enough to learn the complete system (or the Chinese held back some of it). These Japanese brought back what they learned to Japan. Originally, the Japanese called it "China Hand"... but over time... and as they altered some things... they called it "Open Hand" (Which is the basic translation of Karate).
As the Industrial revolution hit... the Japanese started to change their arts even further... because there was rarely a need for hand to hand combat... and, there was less and less time to Train the arts on a Hardcore level. As such, certain hardcore Combat training methods (such as tying heavy stone blocks to ones legs + gripping them in your hands... while doing forms, and while kicking and striking) were removed from their Art. Eventually, Sparring would get less and less contact... and rules were put in place to "Sportize" it, for greater safety, and to promote a sport form of Competition (at the expense of combat accuracy and realism). The other nail in the coffin, was the use of soft sparring gear, such as gloves... and soft targets like heavy bags (instead of Makiwara boards, and other conditioning methods).
Karate wasnt the only art to fall to this either. Aikido had a former version, that had Striking within it. A certain master of that art... decided that he no longer wanted to promote Violence... and so he removed pretty much all striking methods from the art, and changed the name of the art as well (I think the older version was Aikijutsu, or Aikijujitsu).
On the other side of things... was China's corrupted rulers. Around the industrial revolution era... Mao came into power, and brainwashed the Chinese youth into tearing apart the entire country... with his "Cultural Revolution". Mao eventually BANNED all practice and teaching of all combat arts (as well as many other things). If you were caught.. you would have been tortured and executed... and likely, they would have probably executed a few generations worth of your family, just to make sure that the knowledge was stamped out of existence... as they didnt want ANY form of Rebellion to Challenge their Iron Fist Rulership. These dudes were so evil... that they were actually paying certain Kung Fu schools / styles... to destroy (end) other Schools / Practitioners. And when they decided to destroy the Shaolin Temple... they just over-ran the monks with sheer Masses of Troops, and then Burned the entire thing to the Ground.
All throughout China's History, there have been select leaders that had had certain ban periods on the arts. However, the Chinese people kept practicing in secret, to keep their arts alive. The Cultural Revolution ban, I believe lasted over 60 yrs, before they eventually lifted it. Due to the war, and the K!llings that transpired... many of China's arts were completely lost, and would never be revived. However, many Chinese citizens did in fact keep practicing their arts in secret, and passing them down from father to son... and or, to a select few non family members. When the Bans lifted... Many schools slowly started to re-open (a lot were still very fearful of things quickly changing back), But things were never the same.
You see... The Chinese arts were designed to be learned from as young as 3 yrs old... and the training was meant to be +8hrs a day, 7 days a week, virtually 365 days a year. It was many mens daily way of life. These arts were incredibly Brutal, and Deep in knowledge / skillsets to be learned + Mastered... which is why they would take anywhere from 15 to 20 yrs to fully learn and master them. Arts like Tai Chi, and Shaolin, have something like +15 different weapons to be learned/mastered. And no, Tai Chi wasnt just an Old Person exercise, or a Form-Only based art. It actually has some of the highest level of combat technology within its teachings...
The problem of course, would be that these arts also had to decide whether or not to Change to suit the new age... in which people no longer had the time to train such long hours... and in the potential, to remove certain hardcore training methods... and or even removing weapons training altogether. But unlike many other arts... Many of the Chinese teachers tried very hard to maintain their Traditional Arts Integrity, and High Quality... rather than to change them, and water them down. As such... The many modern practitioners tended to learn and develop at a Much slower pace... and many never had the time to fully absorb and fully master any of the material that was taught to them. They just didnt have the time to dedicate to it... as they could no longer train the needed +8hrs per day... due to having to get a Job, and make enough money to survive. Heck... many of these teachers, may not have even been in Top physical condition anymore... because again.. there just wasnt enough time.
Furthermore... a lot of the arts that were being taught after the bans lifting, was in Hong Kong... as the British were in control of that area... making it much safer, and far less likely for the Commies to change their minds, and take out their schools + them. And the problem with Hong Kong... was that the city was so Densely packed... that living areas, and training areas, were really small... and Property costs per square foot... were extremely high. As such... you could no longer afford to have these massive sized schools / Dojo's. And since the school sizes were small... they could no longer perform their ancient forms... because these forms had a lot of footwork in them... and would take up far too much Floorspace. As such... modern Masters like Yipman.. changed all of the forms of Wing Chun... to be much Shorter in length, complexity, and to require far less footwork / space. In fact, he also had to have someone design a new wooden dummy, to be "Portable" to install in his high-rise apartment based school... because the Traditional dummies were merely sunk deep into the Dirt. They didnt "Move" at all... nor did the dummy limbs move either. And since the Older dummy didnt move when you connected with it... you actually had to take an additional step, to put yourself in the proper positions. With the new moving dummy limbs.. you no longer needed to take those additional steps for alignment... and so Yipman was able to redesign the dummy form, to be easier and more realistic to actual fighting applications. The only problem was.. that the original dummy was also supposed to be to toughen your limbs and body... and the new dummy.. being so Springy.. reduces the impact based conditioning. Also, the moving arms require thinner wood sections... and if you hit them with too much power.. they will easily Break... so your arm conditioning will be vastly reduced in intensity levels.
Anyway... Corruptions have also entered many of these Chinese arts, in the modern day... but.. they tend to be far less corrupted than any of the other worlds combat arts... again.. due to the Chinese wanting to maintain their arts historical and proven effective natures. Yes, all of these arts were WELL tested, and were used in ACTUAL combat, for over 2000 yrs worth of Combat + Advancing developments that would result from these fights / battles.
Today, very few people train these Chinese arts the way that they need to be trained.. and so, most of these practitioners do not fair well, in even basic level sparring against much lower tier Arts Artists. The problem isnt the art.. but in fact, the Laziness of the modern citizens. However, certain practitioners, such as myself... and a few rare others that Ive met along the way... pushed ourselves to Masterclass levels of performance in these arts. And let me tell you... they work just as effective today, as they did +2000 yrs ago. Im speaking from 30 yrs of experience, spanning many different artforms... and sparring against fighters of all arts... including modern MMA fighters.
In fact, some of the concept behind MMA, is in trying to rediscover the wheel, of what was already lost.. due to Sportization of many of the arts that they Borrowed from. The problem is.. that MMA is still based on Sportized methods, competition, and rulesets.. and it refused to take along the specialized combat level "Attribute" building exercises + drills... that gave many of the techs that they "Stole", their greater strength, power, accuracy...etc. MMA is mostly Grapple Centric focused.. has no training against multiples, and rarely has any weapons training. And while they condition their Shins to take a beating... they rarely condition any other part of their bodies... including their baby soft fists. (Unlike full Body, Iron Body conditioning methods, which toughen every part of the body, to be dense like Iron).
Basically Put... there is a huge Wealth of Superior Combat Knowledge, that people COULD be benefitting from... in these "Lesser-Corrupted" combat arts... but they are so wrapped up in EGO, and poor Assumptions.. that they merely waste time spouting bad attitudes, and complete and utter Ignorance. I say this is someone that has studied both the Traditional arts.. as well as the Sportized arts methods... as well as a formerly Ignorant fool.
Im going to add... that knowledge and "Techniques" are not "TRICKS". At one time, I had an MMA fighter over, whom was learning some things from me... in addition to his MMA training. His teacher was a typical MMA / Muay Thai kickboxer type... but he was semi open minded.. and taught this kid his own version of a Wing Chun Pak-Sao (palm based arm deflection). I had him try it on me.. and he palmed my arm away.. took a step to the side.. and then stepped in with a strike (which I allowed). I then told him.. while this was better than what most MMA fighters learn... its still not the same as the real deal...
I showed him... for example.. that his use of a Side-Step after the palm, was not needed... and that when he chose to side-step.. he only gave me more time to read and defend against him... as it vastly slowed things down. I also showed him, that if he tried to do this tech.. and I knew what he was trying to do.. I could Tense up and "Stonewall" his technique altogether... rendering it Useless... and putting him in danger of my potential counters. And I finally showed him the correct version, in which I didnt have to Side-Step... which he realized was far Faster, and impossible for him to defend against. He quickly understood.. that his and his coaches shallow "Visual" based replication... was not even close to the actual methods of the technique. And... how much more training it would take... to develop the proper Skillset.. rather than just using a very simplified parry.
There are drills to develop power, accuracy, and proper Vector control, for this single technique. There is specific footwork, that needs to be trained in coordination and perfect Sync with it. There is special Breathing methods involved, for more overall power (very different than the teeth-breathing that MMA does). There are drills for Stamina / Fatigue.. such as a nonstop 20 minute pak/punch partner drill. There is palm and arm conditioning methods involved. There is Speed development drills, that can double your acceleration and top speed of your limbs. There is a whole series of drills, that both show how and when to use this tech... and how its used in different ways, positions, ranges, and situations (and when and why NOT to use it). And there are drills that teach what to do when the tech is stonewalled / neutralized, and countered.. as well as followups to the OPs various next movements / attacks.
It could easily take more than half a year of Attribute and Skill building.. to develop a Masterclass level of this Techniques full potentials, and proper repeatable working usage.
So, while MMA's idea of simply slapping the OPs arm seemed like a perfectly fine "TRICK"... its in fact, far more IN-Depth than that. Just like Grappling, is far more complex in depth, than what most whom started to learn it... may have initially expected. And how much longer it took to develop your grappling skillsets, and bodily attributes.. than you may have expected. And how that... if you make a single technical error while trying to perform your grappling techs... that the OP can easily escape, stop, and or counter you.
While MMA seems to be fully understanding on what it takes to learn and master good Grappling... they have Zero clue about anything outside of their training, such as found in Chinese combat arts. But you wouldnt know it... from the way that they somehow "Expertly" debunk you with their ignorant and Baseless "Assumptions".
@@johndough8115 Dude, the people i debated with showed me now proof of their techniques being applicable and they claimed to be inventors of their own styles, none of which were pressure tested. You took my comment here a bit to seriously, i just said "tricks" as in things that i personally haven't seen before.
@@johndough8115 UGH! Why cant guys like you ever be in my area! Lol great write up! Id love to train with a true traditionalist like you. While I am not a specific kung fu stylist, I have an in depth understanding of the mechanics and application (thru my study of martial arts as a holistic entity). There is an untapped wellspring of martial value in the various styles of kung fu that are at best being forgotten, and at worst being eliminated through disparagement from the ignorant. Keep training, and I hope you are able to pass your knowledge onto many more people.
Shifu would perform better with quest 3 joysticks.
Now you gota find someone who can use swords and throw them into Swordsman! That game is great!
Nope, I used to wake up at 4:30 am to play videogames without being interrupted by my siblings.
Yoooooo sensei Seth your my favourite TH-camr I can’t lie you’ve changed my sparring game so much I just want to say thanks 🙏🏻 ❤
Dude is a Kung Fu Master both reality and virtual reality.
This was absolutely amazing, the way he beat those ninjas was masterful 😄.
Oh and good job beating up girls Seth 😄.
When I saw this I knew this was going to be a banger
Don't be stingy about what you hear made my day!
Ive played through this game on all difficultys with a lot of different Characters and i gotta say i can't wait till they add multiplayer!
Kids, don't punch with your fingers. Youll break them
Brilliant video. Wondered how well others would do on this amazing game. It's one of my favourite VR games and the fighting and physics are incredible. Nicely done 👍
I’m loving these VR videos!
A video where you try to incorporate judo or aikido throws into sumo would be cool
I mean, those throws have Sumo roots (which in turn has Shuai Jiao roots) so they'll be right at home!
I had to try Master Mode after beating it on normal. I am undefeated in 85 fights now. This game was fun AF
Seth you gotta revisit these with the quest 3 ! The color pass through mode or “mixed reality” of this game is nuts. You can fight them in your actual living room
Or in a gym so you never run into anything and it’s like there’s a virtual person standing in front of you in reality.
Wow, you're already demonstrating here with the VR training where the journey of some dojos or schools is heading in the future, and thank you for providing this insight, Sensei Seth. This is definitely the next level compared to Zoom online training. Thank you for the video and I wish you continued success in your upcoming shoots.
Imagine having some kind of sensors on the ankles for kicking
Oh also seth could you possibly do a video on when to attack in sparring (like cues, reading you opponent and just good openings and times to attack) 🙃
0:20 Seth, you vastly underestimate the power of 7 year old me on a saturday morning with Kingdom Hearts II.
props to the guy looking like that at 55.
Maybe he truly is a dnd monk and has achieved peak form and stopped aging! ahah
Love vr its too addictive though
Dragon Fist looks so much better now! You should make a new video on it.
Always love your post, thank you for share some Kung Fu stores
I'd love to see seths and anyone he seems might be a good person to talk to about it play Rumble VR (earthbending) and maybe even play some matches. I just think its really cool and arouses my hope for the future of gaming, hopefully in my lifetime.
Not sure how good (applicaple) Sifus Xing Yi is but itd be cool to see one of my main styles get some attention. It has great angle work and is often overlooked because of the popularity of styles like Wing Chun. Also, if this guy has chinese/mongolian wrestling techniques in his kung fu, you might have found a serious diamond in the rough.
I've watched a bunch of your videos, and you don't dissapoint, so far. 😁
I subscribed
The VR Kung Fu thing looks... objectively terrible for practicing Kung Fu (sorry), but I have to say your overall thesis that VR can be a training tool is great! After seeing your vids I started using Thrill of the Fight to get some at home "sparring" practice for Krav Maga classes and I think it actually helps. It's amazing exercise, but it seems to also trigger the part of your brain involved in reading punches, defense and striking. Love to see more videos using that app!
1:20 Would love to see you try out Xingyi
I like the stories lol. A cool scene/experience for him :D
We now need a collab with Ranton (former Shaolin Monk)
I like Rantons content a lot but I don't want to see Shaolin fookery. There are better systems under the CMA umbrella. Let's see some Longfist, Xing Yi, Shuai Jiao etc.
Lol... Good times
and Restomp the groin ..... oh wait ,wrong channel
I'm seeing this and now I'm really wanting Sensei Seth to find some elite (or elite-ish) athletes from other sports who have no fighting experience and see how they do, and what they're good at. Personally, I've always wondered if my High-jump and hurdles experience and training would develop some muscle groups useful in a fight... for more then running away that is. I'm quite confident I'd be good at that.
You won't be lacking on leg day but what comes to mind would be taekwondo, savate or some good ol' muay thai.
Shaolin style movements with double hand strikes to high / low are the best for this game, with an added kick for a triple strike in one go. Doesn't really matter what character you're using, just chop instead of punch if you are playing as a karate guy or palm strike etc.
The A.I doesn't know what to do. Only on the highest difficulty is this method even remotely risky. You can chain stun an opponent to death.
I love these pls keep doing these
Is there a "buss fight" video coming?
Its on 'shorts
Looks fun
It doesn't look very pretty translated from VR play but he got some good moves. I wonder how long it took to adapt to the VR - it always makes me dizzy starting off.
And now for a kung fu teacher to Rise to Honor by playing Rise to Honor
seth you missed the chance to do what po said in kung fu panda to the dummy when he had to punch it
0:52 That was a nice flash kick.
0:25 it isn't early playing video games. It's actually late playing video games.
what's the story with the hoop? is it there as a joke? do they play on the mats? curious
KungFu meets boxing, and absorb it
Seth, my dude, I'm pretty sure half of people on TH-cam have either pulled several all nighters or have woken up at 2am/3am to play videogames
Get the Quest Pro controllers, has full hand tracking, no more out of view of headset cameras. And yes it will work with Quest 2
I saw some kicks, do you have an ankle sensor or is it just a button?
Hey Seth can you create a another comparison video about different types of kickboxing like Muay Thai and American kickboxing and dutch kickboxing and sanda
Muay Thai isn't kickboxing 😅
@@KyeCreates because of the clinch work?
@@arbogast4950 It's because of the elbows and knees and the allowance of clinch. On top of that kickboxing has a whole story of how it was kicked off the island of Thailand iirc
If anything, this is major cardio.
I would love to have a local martial arts school that opens in the morning. I work two jobs, and I'm a parent. The only time I have to myself is in the morning after I drop my kid off at school, and every martial arts school and boxing gym within driving distance opens at 4 p.m. or later.
I wish this guy had a TH-cam channel
Is it a good workout? I've done Body Combat VR and a couple of others and they are a Great workout Not Authentic striking but a good workout
"First time in history someone plays this early" - I can tell you, THAT is not true XD
Love the fact that neither of them used any of their martial arts at all.. Just haymakers and swinging hoping for the best !! LOL.
I think Rokas at Martial Arts Journey may have you beat with speech making in videos.
Alright. Up next “Thrill of the fight” and “golf+” on the quest 2.
Done TOFT plenty
@Sensei Seth what's your max newtons on the dummy?
This game support, full body tracking you u get the right equipment you can kick by just kicking
I could see this evolving with the right ai.
Super cool.... I would love to see if they have the game Sifu on VR. It would be interesting to see hung kuen against Bak Fu Pai. Great video. =)
Im downloading this game looks great lol THEY SHOULD ADD YOU AS A CHR!
10:40
"I have the high ground!"
John Wick 4's got you beat on the chubby surprise.
Since the creed movie is out you should totally play creed on Vr.
Can you make a video where you discuss the differences of ITF taekwondo and Wtd taekwondo. You seem to always discuss only about wtd
"First time in recorded history someone plays video games this early"? Seth clearly never played Ark Survival Evolved lol
this was a billy blanks movie many many many years ago
to answer the question, is it just that kung fu guy get up early, speaking as someone who gets up at 7:30 am every Sunday for 8 am class, I can say, yes yes they do and it's a pain.
Anyone know where to find the game I have a oculus, is it maybe a rift game?
Bro did you actually record the screen with a camera lol?
Great stuff.
A good story, indeed.
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I don't know if you know any but do you know of any good mma gyms in North Carolina
Seth's sixth sense is too much for my flash kick. 😮💨
On va voir si le Quest 3 va me donner envie ou si j'attends le Pico 5
I think the Emma Harrison character is supposed to look like Cynthia Rothrock.
Hop Gar is the sister style to Lama Pai.
More more vr kung fu videos
You fail to recognize a gamers ability to not know that they’re even in the morning hours!
Next time you should do with with an out of shape gamer. I'm curious if gamer reaction are better then trained fighter reactions.
I saw that groin restomp.
Whats his kong fu style? Tu fua?
Is that comic sans on the front of the building?
Id love to see the capoeira guy playing VR. Lol
Next up, Seth plays VR Deliverance banjo...
Ive played from 12am to 12pm
uh....i get up at 4am ever morning so i can work out and play video games before i go to work at 8am lol
You should have gave the kid a turn
Hi
*BLADE AND SORCERY*
If VR is ever going to really pop off they need to make spectating it look better than it does. Watching someone play VR is so primitive it hurts. Its nothing like what the person experiences.