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"Sensei Seth does a pragmatic boxing film study" is a title that probably wouldn't get as many views, but that's precisely what this was. Film studies are extremely helpful. No one who studies Ali fights quite like him, but everyone who studies the man gets better.
Remember how you said you used to make up quotes like Ali. Ramsey just nailed a quote with that, " No one who studies Ali fight quite like him, but those who study the man become better"😂.
Some people get worse when they actually try to fight like Ali though. He had a certain set of abilities that allowed things to work for him that aren't always optimal for everyone.
@@gregquinn7817 well as long as you are willing to find what works and what doesnt work for you in someone else's style, you will get a better understanding of yourself, better understanding of other fighters. Thats gonna make you better in the long run.
You're too hard on yourself, Sensei Seth. For only a week of specific training, you looked good, even when you were tired sparring against Icy Mike. Some of the rope-a-dope against the wall in particular looked pretty fluid. Great video, as always!
Also there's a really cool youtuber called the Modern Martial Artist. He has breakdowns on Ali(and a lot of other fighters) where he shows each component of a technique in slo mo and will sometimes even give a little demo. I'd recommend him big time
"Disappear before your eyes, then -- boom! -- the chubby surprise." Your film breakdown was spot on. A huge part of Ali's genius -- how he got Liston, famously -- was that he could plant and fire with power and accuracy so suddenly. Honestly, in MMA, it reminds me a lot of Wonderboy. Bruce Lee also adored Ali -- a lot of the footwork and the concept of interception with the lead hand in JKD have roots in Ali's style (also in other things too, of course). Is Mike doing a Joe Frazier impression in your round? Cause that would be awesome and completely appropriate.
Ali's movement was all about mechanical efficiency. He abused the elasticity in his Achilles and other muscle-tendon complexes in his body. Mechanical energy doesn't require ATP like chemical energy does! It's why we're able to skip rope forever, but jumping from a static position repeatedly will wear you out fast. Ali had a mastery over his body to align mechanical and chemical production that allowed him to go the distance over so many rounds.
"The worst part is that Lucas told me that!" Well there's a big difference between being told something that you know to be true and coming to actually understand it, a lot of the time understanding only comes when you get elbow deep into the subject matter. Based on what I just saw I think you made a lot of progress in a short space of time. Seriosuly, great effort, I hope you keep going with it.
I, also, was never enamored by his fighting style specifically but more his presence and aura. His footwork is definitely the hardest thing to emulate, too. Great vid!
One time in boxing sparring with my coach he started to pressure me and I pulled the ol’ rope a dope on him. Coach didn’t touch me once, I caught him with several counters. I’ve never felt cooler and more on top of the world. For that one moment I was Muhammad Ali. My coach backed up a step and said “good job” then caught me with a hook……
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Your boxing and boxing footwork has come so far in the last few years! You look good man!! I admire you for putting yourself out there like this! Keep it up!
To completely digest and internalize all of Ali's fighting genius in a single week is a monstrous task, Seth. And yet you got solid insights not just into the man, but martial arts/combative sports instruction as a whole. *And* your footwork got lighter without roadwork (Bruce Lee and Muhammad were both known (via their training logs) to do 4-mile jogs several times a week). Even your filming and editing have gotten better, this video was downright irresistible. We want more!
Not to be "that guy" but I'm being that guy real quick, heavyweight fighters are naturally slower than lighter weight fighters, therefore I think your comment should be "especially for heavyweight standards." Sorry to be that guy, at least I acknowledge it. Hopefully it doesn't come off as rude or something.
As someone who uses a Muhammad ali esk style (though not nearly as proficient as him) I can say I did notice you not using your height like he did. Against Icy Mike you definitely were tired but I noticed you were ducking into his range when you could of leaned back and used your height to make him reach up. Since Muhammad usually had at the least equal height to his opponents he could lean away from the punches often.
@@tkdamusicman Mainly focusing on head movement and using your height (if you're tall lean away from punches and if you're short like me duck them more often with a mix of footwork to stay at the edge of your opponents range. Make them over extend trying to hit you then counter. The main reason to I keep my hands down is to protect the body and make them want to hit your head where its easier to dodge punches. A little trick I like to do is put my weight on my backfoot. Gives a false sense of my range so when I go for the counters they don't think I can reach them. But the trade off is you have less power in your punches leading to the counter
@@tkdamusicman Then def wanna lean back while you slip punches. His fight against Ernie Terrell is a good example of this. Also his fight against Cleveland Williams is a great fight to break down his style
Just with 7 days of training you were able to get the fundamentals of Ali's head movement pretty well, even if it wasn't perfect it is still impressive.
Dude, you seriously are a chubby surprise. You move really well and fast for your size! And I think you manifested your inner Ali well enough! Great vid! 👍
When Muhammad Ali jabbed, it was almost like watching ballet. Because he was on one leg when he did. Either he was going forward, backwards or creating a Perry. He was always on one leg.
Ali moved like no other fighter before or since. He defended his belt over 50 times!! You have your own style as well! You move very fast and kick really high for a big guy! Plus you know SUMO!!!
Ali's common escape is lean back, one step and angle out (usually to his left). His mixup, at his peak speed, became his self-titled anchor punch (a hook cross hybrid that came from below) that counters an opponent's cross. He stops short on the one step and throws it.
Boxers like Ali, Roy Jones and even the master of the drunken fist Emanuel Augustus movement, footwork and reactions are pretty much god given. You need to be born in the top 1% of athletes and on top of that then need elite boxing training.
Idk if I'd call Emanuel Augustus a 1% genetic guy He just seems like a really great boxer who knows the game so much, he can literally use dance moves to compliment his movement, and he also seems to be a really REALLY disciplined fighter He gets tired in later rounds and doesn't have much power. Prince Naseem is a better example cause he got bored and didn't train as well in the latter part of his career but was still a specimen
It’s not just having being born a certain way, I mean sure u can be born with a certain advantage but that doesn’t mean people can’t work to that level, it just takes years, not weeks or months, years There’s a reason why (according to a statistic years ago) only 6% of people are boxers, it’s nothing to do with being born with a gift, like do you think Ali was fighting like that as a kid? No obviously not😂
@craigyeates1854 yes it is being born a certain way like how some people are born naturally faster or naturally strong like George Foreman you don't reach that level without pure natural talent
Man, I really liked how yout entered this self-challenge head on, just to get a better understanding on what would be to train like The Greatest and be on his shoes inside the ring. That's kinda what every Tyson and Lee fans ever did, while trying to find that one single teacher who could approximate them from their idols. Nice job!
I don't know what was cut and maybe you didn't pick the best shots of you working the bag the first time around. But the difference between that day and the day on the mitts with Coach Lucas looked pretty substantial. Seems like a great coach.
12:16 I think that precision and distance control has a genetic component and it relies on a fighter being special. I think McGregor had that "it" factor too and when that speed faded so too did his untouchable status. I like to believe that the curriculum that my school uses might "create many of the same fighter," but I feel comfortable saying that we're using techniques that have 1) broad application 2) relevance and 3) competitive success. Not everyone is going to be able to have once in a generation hand eye coordination, but everyone is going to be able to respond to being kicked with a kick in return. I think what makes a good fighter is doing extracurricular work: fight studies, privates with coaches, and cardio like what you're doing. Classwork is not mutually exclusive with the kind of stuff that makes you a unique fighter.
I really like how you record your journey to learning. Even when you're learning wrongly, I loved every second of the journey. So wholesome. It's something I relate to so well.
My Boxing coach always said this you can take parts of what great fighters do but you will never be them 100%. You always have to adjust the style for you and add ur own take on it because your body is your body and their body is their body its never going to move the same.
Oh man that toe snap xD it does get you better though, but a vivid memory I have of starting mma is jumping rope with no socks or shoes in the cold ass gym before you are warm when I was still learning to jump rope, and smacking my cold toes several times in a row during the jump rope. Tldr I felt that lol
6:10 - goddamn that was smooth! Also, martial arts are like farms - because they were originally designed for militaries. They needed a standardized means of doing things.
Yo Sensei Seth! I love your videos man. They're very entertaining! I look forward to every new upload, and would consider myself a fan. I just wanted to ask if you could speak with your people about how important they feel the first person segments of the video are. Like when you were running at @7:16 . Like when the viewer is looking right out of the camera as it's bouncing around as you run. I'm someone who gets motion sickness very easily and I tend to avoid videos that have those kind of shots, because it gets so bad sometimes that it can make me feel sick to my stomach for hours. Thankfully you or your editor only puts them in sparingly, so this video didn't trigger it. And I totally get it, it's a me problem not a you problem. I don't expect ya to change your content for one guy. I just wanted to let ya know that there's people like me out there that are really sensitive to those kind of shots, and if they're not super valuable in the eyes of you or your team, maybe you could do less of them or take them out if it wasn't a big deal. Appreciate you if you read this comment. I'll be trying to watch whenever I can either way. And so far I'm only halfway through the video, but you're already moving really good! Haha good job! I'm sure Ali would be proud. When I think of the word "hero" he is always the first person that comes to my mind, so this video really made me smile. Thanks for making it and keeping his spirit alive. :)
Man for a week of training you look insanely good. It's even more shocking when I look at some of your older vid's and see how much you are able to improve each year. Keep up the good work :D
Ali has several different styles of fighting, not only one: from the distance, stay and fight, and rope-a-dope. He starts to use rope-a-dope on a large scale in the 1974 fight with George Foreman and in the next years he combined all these styles. But you have a better term: not from the distance, but with a controlled distance. I think you need also a dedicated day for the Ali jab, that is "explosive" :) Great video!
You had some good moments in the sparring there. Right after you said you were tired you ducked under and then looked almost surprised that Mike was right there for your jab. You pulled it off though.
Dude you look great. Your movement while sparring looked awesome and flow-y. You never looked like you got stuck. The rope-a-dope against the wall was sick too
Mid video you talk about a lot of martial arts instruction being about teaching a 'correct' version of something and not allowing people to figure out what works for them,while part of why Ali was so amazing is that he managed to find what works for him,and that's a great point and if you haven't already heard of it I suggest looking up concepts such as 'ecological training models' and 'constraints lead approach' for some methodological guidance on how that all works. There's a great book 'how we learn to move' by rob gray(dude's also got a podcast and website you can check out),and there's also 'The Combat Learning Podcast' deals with the topic as well. And the Southpaw guide to martial arts gyms also has a lot of talk on the topic as well you might find insightful!
Ali was an artist. He epitomized a style of no style, he existed in the moment in the ring, always open, watching, learning, and expressing. It's truly impressive.
I love what you said about Ali being able to fight like himself. Across all sprts kids are having the things that may make them special coached out if them to the point that i think were being cheated out of seeing super unique athletes.
Ali himself knew better than to rate himself as the best ever, he just said “the greatest” cause he knew how to market himself, but he knew and admitted that guys like SRR were better.
You looked great Seth, obviously not Ali level but you did pretty good implementing his style and didn't for a second look funny, that's hard as heck, caught me by surprise. I was thinking you were gonna do a shuffle at the end and maybe dance a bit in a corner but it looked smooth as crap, I think of you highly and still underestimated your movement. Haven't watched Ali move in a while, he was absolutely mindblowing. 6'3 230lbs moving as graciously against the best in the world as a 5'6 120lbs Shaolin monk with power to knock people his (pretty damn large) size out cold without losing fluidity. Sometimes barely breaking a sweat.
You need to incorporate your kicks with that movement. If you think you are to far away after slipping punches counter with one of your kicks. It should work well for you.
I think what we learned today is that you and him have quite a similar style. :) One thing that allows ali the ability to counter is a super wide stance where he can do these HUGE pulls straight back, to the point where he leans, but his right leg is still behind him so he can come back with a right hand. This and punching while stepping backwards, maybe timing the rhythm of his shots with the feet hitting the floor (the same way you'd step in for a jab). Floyd does some of the same stuff, but in a smarter and more efficient way. (I say this as the biggest Ali fan) I think you did fantastic with your time constraint. 😄 I just figured that perhaps since your styles have the same goals, you may return to what feels comfortable in the thrill of sparring or when facing fatigue. Incredible vid yet again Seth!
I remember reading somewhere, or listening to something on NPR where they talked about Ali's dyslexia, and how he was able to turn that into a strength when boxing. However, I don't remember the details as to how.
That statement of allowing others and yourself to fight like yourself is a good statement to fighters and martial artists in training. It’s similar in thought about Bruce Lee’s statement about expressing yourself honestly. You need to explore your own methodologies and framework as your learn others’ versions of fighting. Sparring lets you explore those ideas and concepts and answers in a controlled and safe manner, but in return asks more questions as you try that answer in different situations with different sparring partners. Being honest means you acknowledge what is working for you and not, but also to see if you can tweak something considered “wrong” or a technique you see has potential that is yours work consistently. Good instructors and coaches can help lay your groundwork, but I believe only the best teach what they know and help try to make you be the best you through exploration rather than what they think the perfect style or fighter is. The great thing about fighting is the proof of effectiveness boils down to whether you can you control the other guy and can you prevent the other guy from controlling you.
Pushing harder as your worn out is such an icy mike thing to do lol. He advocates for it all the time. Honestly, it's fair too. When jogging you can go longer than you think. All you need is someone going with you who will put a hand on your back or shout encouragement. Then again,aybe that's a unique experience for me because i only ever started caring about my body after my brother, a former marine, left the corp. So when i was trying to drop weight from 300 lbs he used to do that to me. Honestly, i need that these days.
Ladies and gentlemen, gather 'round For a tale of a TH-camr, quite renowned His name is Sensei Seth, a master of his craft And let me tell you, his skills will make you laugh He's got moves like Ali, quick and light And his fans, they all love him, day and night He teaches martial arts, but that's not all He's got a heart of gold, and he'll never fall Sensei Seth is the champ, there's no doubt He's got a million followers, and they shout From his kicks to his punches, he's simply the best He'll knock out the competition, and never rest So if you're looking for inspiration, look no further Sensei Seth is the man, the ultimate teacher He'll show you the way, and help you be free And like Ali, he'll make you float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
The biggest difference I saw is the natural reach Ali has and speed. Especially hand speed it was freaky for a heavyweight. That is something you cannot copy with training
Sensei seth, when you say you dont like running i surprised like there is plenty of guys don't like running but its necessary, if you has no runing routine in your programe, than you are not a complete athletic, you have to practice it and also do some sprinting to back up your undurance and with undurance you can keep up with icy mike easily, keep up the good work
I think a big part of it that you didn't even really mention is the fact that his height and lankiness was a big factor to how well it worked for him, relative to you. If icy mike had been the first opponent so you were actually fresh for it, or if you had three guys who you would have height and reach advantage against that Ali had in most cases, I think the similarities and reasons that it worked so well would be even clearer. Obviously it wasn't the only factor for him as he did beat taller guys then himself but as someone trying to emulate him I think it would actually make a difference in understanding the strengths and weaknesses and in maintaining the distance to make them miss while staying in your range.
One thing you’ll never have is Ali’s reflexes. I feel like without that, you can only do your best impression. But you certainly got better and I’m glad you covered Ali. There’s surprisingly very few martial arts channels that even teach his movements; combinations, style. Etc.I’d love you revisited this in the future.
Really interesting video. I think you looked really good. You are Ali and obviously you will never fight exactly like him, but that probably should never be the point either. You have a completely different background than Ali, and (i assume) you train with different goals in mind, and that is always going to show. But the cool thing is seeing you be able to use a lot of the skills Ali used and adapt them to your style.
Tried to move like Samart would be great too edit: for those who dont know him, Samart Payakaroon was a Muay Thai figher and he was so hard to hit that he did not receive a single cut in a 150-fight career. Samart won the Lumpinee title at 105 lbs, 108 lbs, 115 lbs and 126 lbs, and also won the "Fighter of the Year" award 3 times in 1981, 1983 and 1988.
the reason that you feel that you're missing "something" is Ali's insane athleticism. You have to remember that some fighters, like Ali and Roy Jones Jr were just physically gifted with insane inhuman reflexes. you have grasped the essence of Ali's style, but the reason you can't replicate it is because you lack his physical gifts. Think of it like Ali was like a car with unbelievable horsepower, but the rest of us just don't have that horsepower as he did.
SSR, Bruce Lee, and Muhammad Ali all had some form of dance instruction incorporated into their foot work. SSR I think was tap, Lee was Cha Cha and Ali studied SSR. Dance teaches keeping the partner at proper distance, timing, and foot speed/accuracy
Regardless I got to say it look like you improved a lot you were lighter on your feet you were dodging you were bobbing your weaving regardless of what and how you feel and what you saw in yourself when looking into the vid I think personally if you keep going even if it's twice a week once a week doing this you will get better and better and before you know it you'll be moving just like him forward backwards left right all the way around
Really there's 2 Muhammad Ali's. There's the floaty and smooth stinger in the early days. Then in his comeback, he became a master of control, using the ropes and grappling to maneuver his opponents away from him and since he couldn't avoid punches as much, he'd learn to take them where it'd be least effective and smother the opponents attacks.
We all want to emulate Ali and we all have moments when we think we are getting there but it’s the journey and the effort we put into our training that’s most important. Okay and having at least the one or two moments when we feel like we’re channeling the Greatest!
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"Sensei Seth does a pragmatic boxing film study" is a title that probably wouldn't get as many views, but that's precisely what this was. Film studies are extremely helpful. No one who studies Ali fights quite like him, but everyone who studies the man gets better.
😉you get it. Thank you sir!
Remember how you said you used to make up quotes like Ali. Ramsey just nailed a quote with that, " No one who studies Ali fight quite like him, but those who study the man become better"😂.
something I noticed studying Ali was how much his footwork pattern is similar to baguazhang.
Some people get worse when they actually try to fight like Ali though.
He had a certain set of abilities that allowed things to work for him that aren't always optimal for everyone.
@@gregquinn7817 well as long as you are willing to find what works and what doesnt work for you in someone else's style, you will get a better understanding of yourself, better understanding of other fighters. Thats gonna make you better in the long run.
A lot of people are gonna be talking about Ali, but when you whipped yourself with the jumprope, I felt that
I've been beat up more by jump ropes than in sparring.
@@bladecommando no actually lmao
Why not jump rope in shoes? I'm terrified to jump barefoot
You're too hard on yourself, Sensei Seth. For only a week of specific training, you looked good, even when you were tired sparring against Icy Mike. Some of the rope-a-dope against the wall in particular looked pretty fluid. Great video, as always!
I’m cool with how hard I am on myself though! I can take it 😉
@SenseiSeth I get it. I'm always my own worst critic too. Keep up the good work.
Some people I know would have quit after day 2 of this. Seth going a whole week is cool. Man got a heart of a warrior.
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Also there's a really cool youtuber called the Modern Martial Artist. He has breakdowns on Ali(and a lot of other fighters) where he shows each component of a technique in slo mo and will sometimes even give a little demo. I'd recommend him big time
He makes great stuff for sure!!
TMMA videos are so addicting to watch 😂
@@SenseiSeth learn Tyson’s peekaboo style
"Easy to miss, hard to kiss" I lost it there 🤣
Lol i think you were running so much that i was surprised when your head was still there for those stiffer punches.
I was surprised your hand was there, to be fair
Were you trying to do a Joe Frazier impression on purpose? There's points it kinda looks like it.
Ali was pretty much superhuman, so to try to learn his style is an awesome attempt.
"Disappear before your eyes, then -- boom! -- the chubby surprise."
Your film breakdown was spot on. A huge part of Ali's genius -- how he got Liston, famously -- was that he could plant and fire with power and accuracy so suddenly. Honestly, in MMA, it reminds me a lot of Wonderboy. Bruce Lee also adored Ali -- a lot of the footwork and the concept of interception with the lead hand in JKD have roots in Ali's style (also in other things too, of course).
Is Mike doing a Joe Frazier impression in your round? Cause that would be awesome and completely appropriate.
Ali's movement was all about mechanical efficiency. He abused the elasticity in his Achilles and other muscle-tendon complexes in his body. Mechanical energy doesn't require ATP like chemical energy does! It's why we're able to skip rope forever, but jumping from a static position repeatedly will wear you out fast. Ali had a mastery over his body to align mechanical and chemical production that allowed him to go the distance over so many rounds.
"The worst part is that Lucas told me that!" Well there's a big difference between being told something that you know to be true and coming to actually understand it, a lot of the time understanding only comes when you get elbow deep into the subject matter. Based on what I just saw I think you made a lot of progress in a short space of time. Seriosuly, great effort, I hope you keep going with it.
I, also, was never enamored by his fighting style specifically but more his presence and aura. His footwork is definitely the hardest thing to emulate, too.
Great vid!
One time in boxing sparring with my coach he started to pressure me and I pulled the ol’ rope a dope on him. Coach didn’t touch me once, I caught him with several counters. I’ve never felt cooler and more on top of the world. For that one moment I was Muhammad Ali. My coach backed up a step and said “good job” then caught me with a hook……
The coach swapped over to kill mode
Lol coach was like "sight I've let him have his fun, now to put him in his place.."
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Your boxing and boxing footwork has come so far in the last few years! You look good man!! I admire you for putting yourself out there like this! Keep it up!
To completely digest and internalize all of Ali's fighting genius in a single week is a monstrous task, Seth. And yet you got solid insights not just into the man, but martial arts/combative sports instruction as a whole. *And* your footwork got lighter without roadwork (Bruce Lee and Muhammad were both known (via their training logs) to do 4-mile jogs several times a week). Even your filming and editing have gotten better, this video was downright irresistible. We want more!
In his prime, Ali was lightning quick, even for heavyweight standards. Good video, keep grinding.
Not to be "that guy" but I'm being that guy real quick, heavyweight fighters are naturally slower than lighter weight fighters, therefore I think your comment should be "especially for heavyweight standards."
Sorry to be that guy, at least I acknowledge it. Hopefully it doesn't come off as rude or something.
@@fixthat3269 Ali is still one of the fastest fighters ever and debatably the fastest
@Taolf Sorry but nah. Plenty amateur lightweights are faster than Ali.
@@TheRealTaolfi mean, you could say that he was the fastest for his build, but not just "the fastest"
I'd describe Ali as smooth more than fast
As someone who uses a Muhammad ali esk style (though not nearly as proficient as him) I can say I did notice you not using your height like he did. Against Icy Mike you definitely were tired but I noticed you were ducking into his range when you could of leaned back and used your height to make him reach up. Since Muhammad usually had at the least equal height to his opponents he could lean away from the punches often.
How do you use ali style because I want to try something similar
It would honestly be pretty difficult to fight like Ali in that small of a space.
@@tkdamusicman Mainly focusing on head movement and using your height (if you're tall lean away from punches and if you're short like me duck them more often with a mix of footwork to stay at the edge of your opponents range. Make them over extend trying to hit you then counter.
The main reason to I keep my hands down is to protect the body and make them want to hit your head where its easier to dodge punches.
A little trick I like to do is put my weight on my backfoot. Gives a false sense of my range so when I go for the counters they don't think I can reach them. But the trade off is you have less power in your punches leading to the counter
@@rosssssss177 yes Im pretty tall
@@tkdamusicman Then def wanna lean back while you slip punches. His fight against Ernie Terrell is a good example of this. Also his fight against Cleveland Williams is a great fight to break down his style
Just with 7 days of training you were able to get the fundamentals of Ali's head movement pretty well, even if it wasn't perfect it is still impressive.
Dude, you seriously are a chubby surprise. You move really well and fast for your size! And I think you manifested your inner Ali well enough! Great vid! 👍
When Muhammad Ali jabbed, it was almost like watching ballet. Because he was on one leg when he did. Either he was going forward, backwards or creating a Perry. He was always on one leg.
Ali moved like no other fighter before or since. He defended his belt over 50 times!! You have your own style as well! You move very fast and kick really high for a big guy! Plus you know SUMO!!!
Ali's common escape is lean back, one step and angle out (usually to his left). His mixup, at his peak speed, became his self-titled anchor punch (a hook cross hybrid that came from below) that counters an opponent's cross. He stops short on the one step and throws it.
Boxers like Ali, Roy Jones and even the master of the drunken fist Emanuel Augustus movement, footwork and reactions are pretty much god given. You need to be born in the top 1% of athletes and on top of that then need elite boxing training.
Idk if I'd call Emanuel Augustus a 1% genetic guy
He just seems like a really great boxer who knows the game so much, he can literally use dance moves to compliment his movement, and he also seems to be a really REALLY disciplined fighter
He gets tired in later rounds and doesn't have much power.
Prince Naseem is a better example cause he got bored and didn't train as well in the latter part of his career but was still a specimen
It’s not just having being born a certain way, I mean sure u can be born with a certain advantage but that doesn’t mean people can’t work to that level, it just takes years, not weeks or months, years
There’s a reason why (according to a statistic years ago) only 6% of people are boxers, it’s nothing to do with being born with a gift, like do you think Ali was fighting like that as a kid? No obviously not😂
@craigyeates1854 yes it is being born a certain way like how some people are born naturally faster or naturally strong like George Foreman you don't reach that level without pure natural talent
Man, I really liked how yout entered this self-challenge head on, just to get a better understanding on what would be to train like The Greatest and be on his shoes inside the ring. That's kinda what every Tyson and Lee fans ever did, while trying to find that one single teacher who could approximate them from their idols. Nice job!
Thanks for the Video Seth!
One of my favorite boxers is Muhammad Ali so I loved this ❤
Keep up the great work!
I don't know what was cut and maybe you didn't pick the best shots of you working the bag the first time around. But the difference between that day and the day on the mitts with Coach Lucas looked pretty substantial. Seems like a great coach.
12:16 I think that precision and distance control has a genetic component and it relies on a fighter being special. I think McGregor had that "it" factor too and when that speed faded so too did his untouchable status. I like to believe that the curriculum that my school uses might "create many of the same fighter," but I feel comfortable saying that we're using techniques that have 1) broad application 2) relevance and 3) competitive success. Not everyone is going to be able to have once in a generation hand eye coordination, but everyone is going to be able to respond to being kicked with a kick in return. I think what makes a good fighter is doing extracurricular work: fight studies, privates with coaches, and cardio like what you're doing. Classwork is not mutually exclusive with the kind of stuff that makes you a unique fighter.
I really like how you record your journey to learning. Even when you're learning wrongly, I loved every second of the journey. So wholesome. It's something I relate to so well.
Another amazing video Seth keep it up
Your videos are getting better and better. I like yalls little martial art group. Seth, Mike, wonderboy, Ramsey, and the other guys.
My Boxing coach always said this you can take parts of what great fighters do but you will never be them 100%. You always have to adjust the style for you and add ur own take on it because your body is your body and their body is their body its never going to move the same.
Oh man that toe snap xD it does get you better though, but a vivid memory I have of starting mma is jumping rope with no socks or shoes in the cold ass gym before you are warm when I was still learning to jump rope, and smacking my cold toes several times in a row during the jump rope. Tldr I felt that lol
6:10 - goddamn that was smooth!
Also, martial arts are like farms - because they were originally designed for militaries. They needed a standardized means of doing things.
Yo Sensei Seth!
I love your videos man. They're very entertaining! I look forward to every new upload, and would consider myself a fan.
I just wanted to ask if you could speak with your people about how important they feel the first person segments of the video are. Like when you were running at @7:16 . Like when the viewer is looking right out of the camera as it's bouncing around as you run. I'm someone who gets motion sickness very easily and I tend to avoid videos that have those kind of shots, because it gets so bad sometimes that it can make me feel sick to my stomach for hours.
Thankfully you or your editor only puts them in sparingly, so this video didn't trigger it. And I totally get it, it's a me problem not a you problem. I don't expect ya to change your content for one guy. I just wanted to let ya know that there's people like me out there that are really sensitive to those kind of shots, and if they're not super valuable in the eyes of you or your team, maybe you could do less of them or take them out if it wasn't a big deal.
Appreciate you if you read this comment. I'll be trying to watch whenever I can either way.
And so far I'm only halfway through the video, but you're already moving really good! Haha good job! I'm sure Ali would be proud. When I think of the word "hero" he is always the first person that comes to my mind, so this video really made me smile. Thanks for making it and keeping his spirit alive. :)
Definitely continue with this, Alis style is very complex and it wouldnt be easy to learn it in one week and id like to see more of this
Man for a week of training you look insanely good. It's even more shocking when I look at some of your older vid's and see how much you are able to improve each year. Keep up the good work :D
Absolutely love the evolution of this channel. Easily one of the channels I anticipate the most!
Super good video Sensei this gave me a bunch of ideas for my own training
The Sensei Seth vs Icy Mike boxing match reminds me of what Muhammad Ali vs Mike Tyson would’ve been
The goat posted again
"Easy to miss, hard to kiss" - sensei seth, April 15th 2023
You did awesome seth.
You were also awesome in the first two episodes of the USDC.
Can't wait to see how you do in episode 3 tomorrow 😄🥊.
Ali has several different styles of fighting, not only one: from the distance, stay and fight, and rope-a-dope. He starts to use rope-a-dope on a large scale in the 1974 fight with George Foreman and in the next years he combined all these styles. But you have a better term: not from the distance, but with a controlled distance.
I think you need also a dedicated day for the Ali jab, that is "explosive" :)
Great video!
You had some good moments in the sparring there. Right after you said you were tired you ducked under and then looked almost surprised that Mike was right there for your jab. You pulled it off though.
Icy Mike looked like he was thinking, "oh you wanna see head movement? Ok here's Tyson type head movement"
Dude you look great. Your movement while sparring looked awesome and flow-y. You never looked like you got stuck. The rope-a-dope against the wall was sick too
Mid video you talk about a lot of martial arts instruction being about teaching a 'correct' version of something and not allowing people to figure out what works for them,while part of why Ali was so amazing is that he managed to find what works for him,and that's a great point and if you haven't already heard of it I suggest looking up concepts such as 'ecological training models' and 'constraints lead approach' for some methodological guidance on how that all works.
There's a great book 'how we learn to move' by rob gray(dude's also got a podcast and website you can check out),and there's also 'The Combat Learning Podcast' deals with the topic as well.
And the Southpaw guide to martial arts gyms also has a lot of talk on the topic as well you might find insightful!
Ali was an artist. He epitomized a style of no style, he existed in the moment in the ring, always open, watching, learning, and expressing. It's truly impressive.
You can definitely tell the difference after Lucas started helping u, man works wonders
I love what you said about Ali being able to fight like himself. Across all sprts kids are having the things that may make them special coached out if them to the point that i think were being cheated out of seeing super unique athletes.
Title should be " I tried to move like Best Boxer ever "
Ali himself knew better than to rate himself as the best ever, he just said “the greatest” cause he knew how to market himself, but he knew and admitted that guys like SRR were better.
@@thrashattack2185could ssr beat ali tho
Muhammad Ali was the man the legend and everything. He had his own skills
Two things that I love! I feel inspired to try this journey out for myself.
You did an awesome job man. Great tribute to him
You looked great Seth, obviously not Ali level but you did pretty good implementing his style and didn't for a second look funny, that's hard as heck, caught me by surprise. I was thinking you were gonna do a shuffle at the end and maybe dance a bit in a corner but it looked smooth as crap, I think of you highly and still underestimated your movement.
Haven't watched Ali move in a while, he was absolutely mindblowing. 6'3 230lbs moving as graciously against the best in the world as a 5'6 120lbs Shaolin monk with power to knock people his (pretty damn large) size out cold without losing fluidity. Sometimes barely breaking a sweat.
Dude. In the clips you look sharp.
Makes me think I’m gonna try to float just a little more in sparring this week.
You need to incorporate your kicks with that movement. If you think you are to far away after slipping punches counter with one of your kicks. It should work well for you.
I think what we learned today is that you and him have quite a similar style. :)
One thing that allows ali the ability to counter is a super wide stance where he can do these HUGE pulls straight back, to the point where he leans, but his right leg is still behind him so he can come back with a right hand. This and punching while stepping backwards, maybe timing the rhythm of his shots with the feet hitting the floor (the same way you'd step in for a jab). Floyd does some of the same stuff, but in a smarter and more efficient way. (I say this as the biggest Ali fan)
I think you did fantastic with your time constraint. 😄 I just figured that perhaps since your styles have the same goals, you may return to what feels comfortable in the thrill of sparring or when facing fatigue. Incredible vid yet again Seth!
It’s ok I can float like a whale and sing like a bee.
Bzzzzz
I remember reading somewhere, or listening to something on NPR where they talked about Ali's dyslexia, and how he was able to turn that into a strength when boxing. However, I don't remember the details as to how.
That statement of allowing others and yourself to fight like yourself is a good statement to fighters and martial artists in training.
It’s similar in thought about Bruce Lee’s statement about expressing yourself honestly.
You need to explore your own methodologies and framework as your learn others’ versions of fighting.
Sparring lets you explore those ideas and concepts and answers in a controlled and safe manner, but in return asks more questions as you try that answer in different situations with different sparring partners.
Being honest means you acknowledge what is working for you and not, but also to see if you can tweak something considered “wrong” or a technique you see has potential that is yours work consistently.
Good instructors and coaches can help lay your groundwork, but I believe only the best teach what they know and help try to make you be the best you through exploration rather than what they think the perfect style or fighter is.
The great thing about fighting is the proof of effectiveness boils down to whether you can you control the other guy and can you prevent the other guy from controlling you.
Pushing harder as your worn out is such an icy mike thing to do lol. He advocates for it all the time. Honestly, it's fair too. When jogging you can go longer than you think. All you need is someone going with you who will put a hand on your back or shout encouragement. Then again,aybe that's a unique experience for me because i only ever started caring about my body after my brother, a former marine, left the corp. So when i was trying to drop weight from 300 lbs he used to do that to me. Honestly, i need that these days.
Next Seth Try Tyson's training with some peek abo lol would love to see that
Ladies and gentlemen, gather 'round
For a tale of a TH-camr, quite renowned
His name is Sensei Seth, a master of his craft
And let me tell you, his skills will make you laugh
He's got moves like Ali, quick and light
And his fans, they all love him, day and night
He teaches martial arts, but that's not all
He's got a heart of gold, and he'll never fall
Sensei Seth is the champ, there's no doubt
He's got a million followers, and they shout
From his kicks to his punches, he's simply the best
He'll knock out the competition, and never rest
So if you're looking for inspiration, look no further
Sensei Seth is the man, the ultimate teacher
He'll show you the way, and help you be free
And like Ali, he'll make you float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Nothing like setting your goals high. I'm going to be the best ever...in a week... you did really well 👏
The biggest difference I saw is the natural reach Ali has and speed. Especially hand speed it was freaky for a heavyweight. That is something you cannot copy with training
Ten seconds in this is already gonna be my favorite video of yours
"Easy to miss hard to kiss" sensei seth 2023
I personally think its better the other way around but to each their own I guess
Bruh Seth is nice asf at boxing well done brother!
Would love a series on trying out the styles of different fighters the way you have the series on making different martial arts work
Sensei seth, when you say you dont like running i surprised like there is plenty of guys don't like running but its necessary, if you has no runing routine in your programe, than you are not a complete athletic, you have to practice it and also do some sprinting to back up your undurance and with undurance you can keep up with icy mike easily, keep up the good work
I think a big part of it that you didn't even really mention is the fact that his height and lankiness was a big factor to how well it worked for him, relative to you. If icy mike had been the first opponent so you were actually fresh for it, or if you had three guys who you would have height and reach advantage against that Ali had in most cases, I think the similarities and reasons that it worked so well would be even clearer. Obviously it wasn't the only factor for him as he did beat taller guys then himself but as someone trying to emulate him I think it would actually make a difference in understanding the strengths and weaknesses and in maintaining the distance to make them miss while staying in your range.
underrated channel
Nice work!
Good work you did there - and it gave me a few interesting ideas.
Fast boxing is hard when you're a big guy. We naturally can gas out quicker. I felt this.
Your movement looks pretty good dude remember Ali had how many hours to perfect the craft?
Nice video,you did well to imitate his style but no one other than him could do it well which made him special
300 K. Gooooo Sensei!!!
One thing you’ll never have is Ali’s reflexes. I feel like without that, you can only do your best impression. But you certainly got better and I’m glad you covered Ali. There’s surprisingly very few martial arts channels that even teach his movements; combinations, style. Etc.I’d love you revisited this in the future.
I'd love to learn to flow and have that kind of head movement. Amazing effort Seth!
Do a sequel to this video, it was really cool
Good video man.
Really interesting video. I think you looked really good. You are Ali and obviously you will never fight exactly like him, but that probably should never be the point either. You have a completely different background than Ali, and (i assume) you train with different goals in mind, and that is always going to show. But the cool thing is seeing you be able to use a lot of the skills Ali used and adapt them to your style.
Coach Lucas seems like a really cool guy. Also, I too hate running :D
omg yes coach lucas i wanted him and the taekwondo guy you fought in the tournament but they arent in it
Honestly even though you’re not as good as ali (no one is) your boxing looks great!
Fun video, insightful. I also dig the barefoot shoes.
Tried to move like Samart would be great too
edit: for those who dont know him, Samart Payakaroon was a Muay Thai figher and he was so hard to hit that he did not receive a single cut in a 150-fight career. Samart won the Lumpinee title at 105 lbs, 108 lbs, 115 lbs and 126 lbs, and also won the "Fighter of the Year" award 3 times in 1981, 1983 and 1988.
the reason that you feel that you're missing "something" is Ali's insane athleticism.
You have to remember that some fighters, like Ali and Roy Jones Jr were just physically gifted with insane inhuman reflexes.
you have grasped the essence of Ali's style, but the reason you can't replicate it is because you lack his physical gifts.
Think of it like Ali was like a car with unbelievable horsepower, but the rest of us just don't have that horsepower as he did.
SSR, Bruce Lee, and Muhammad Ali all had some form of dance instruction incorporated into their foot work. SSR I think was tap, Lee was Cha Cha and Ali studied SSR. Dance teaches keeping the partner at proper distance, timing, and foot speed/accuracy
Regardless I got to say it look like you improved a lot you were lighter on your feet you were dodging you were bobbing your weaving regardless of what and how you feel and what you saw in yourself when looking into the vid I think personally if you keep going even if it's twice a week once a week doing this you will get better and better and before you know it you'll be moving just like him forward backwards left right all the way around
We loved Ali and now we love Seth. Thank you 🙏
Really there's 2 Muhammad Ali's. There's the floaty and smooth stinger in the early days. Then in his comeback, he became a master of control, using the ropes and grappling to maneuver his opponents away from him and since he couldn't avoid punches as much, he'd learn to take them where it'd be least effective and smother the opponents attacks.
SENSEI SETH CAN YOU PLEASE DO KENDO. Like a full on attempt. I would love to see u enter a tournament
honestly though, you look great here. might not be exactly like Ali, but its very close! better than most of us could do.
I'm not going to lie, a Muhammad Ali footwork, boxing style with additional karate kicks. Would look nice 👍
Your mitt work reminds me exactly of Dimitry Bivol, and the Soviet style of low hands, throwing from the hip, very bouncy and flowy.
We all want to emulate Ali and we all have moments when we think we are getting there but it’s the journey and the effort we put into our training that’s most important. Okay and having at least the one or two moments when we feel like we’re channeling the Greatest!