Couldn't agree more about the pickups, apparently the worlds biggest mystery still hasn't been solved on what they are. This is just a collector's item tho. I wish i was someone who had access as you could triple your money w/this in probably a month.
I’m looking forward to a MIM production model. I’ll be on that pre-order fast. John is the reason I started playing 25 years ago and never stopped. I don’t want this strat - I friggin need it!’ I already own too many strats. But I can’t turn this one down.
John's 62 Strat had Seymour Duncun SSL1's when he got it. He used those pick ups from Californication up until recently rejoined the band... After stadium arcadium he was playing guitars with humbuckers more on his solo stuff, and when he rejoined the band he put some kinda higher output single coils in his strat.
On the subject of the pick ups I believe they went for that just because Jon put some fender pickups in his 50s Stratocaster and he probably liked it so why not go for the same fender custom shop high and pick ups for the 60s? I mean if he was fine with the SSL's or the random American made whatever Stratocaster pickups, I'm sure he's gonna be happy with these hand made ones. Would've been great if fender did one of those videos where they show footage of the master build team checking the guitar. We can only hope that they will shine the lights on the mystery of these pick ups that we never knew for sure.. but honestly if he doesn't have the original ones from 62 any other boutique high-end 60s vibe pick ups will do😅
"John was nearly impossible to work with." Yep, that's on brand. Someone should've just told him, we can make your Martin acoustic too, we can make a custom fkn midi stack if you want! He was probably like yea you can do it but leave me out of it. I'm not doing any interviews. Guess he fell for the $ in the end, like everyone
@@luciano0593Yeah, for a guy who was uncomfortable (back in the the early 90s) with the band playing stadiums because he thought they were selling out and weren’t playing to “real fans,” this seems like a real “jumping the shark” moment. I mean, the guy is already insanely rich, so I’m trying to understand his mindset here.
Abigail Ybarra came out of retirement earlier this year. The video, search for it on here, “Abigail Ybarra and Castedosa. The ABI Model”, is what she was working on earlier this year. She is very elderly. So you can bet your bottom dollar that she wound these pickups for these guitars. But like he said in this video, John would not have tested the pickups and offered any modifications, Mike Mccreedy certainly did. If John had been involved they would have been advertising that big time. They are probably just going to be Custom shop 60’s of whatever John chose, but Abigail either wound all of them, or oversaw the winding while it was happening. She’s so elite that she could probably wind a single pickup in 20 minutes. So she could have done all of them over a few weeks. It’s not crazy numbers of pickups she had to wind.
My American Vintage Reissue 62 Strat from about 20 years ago was $1400. I'd expect a MIM version of this to be $2000 or less. I'd still play my reissue daily, but keep the MIM signature as a collector's item, like I'm doing with the Flea pink bass. For the 20 grand version... I wouldn't be able to afford this AND a divorce, so I'm deciding to stay married and just wait for the MIM!
I gave some thought about this guitar. It's one of the best relic jobs I've seen and I have to give it to them for doing such a good job. It's way better than the prototypes John had on the road. I wouldn't be able to play the guitar though, because I would want it to stay in the state that John had it and not add my own wear. So, in the end, I think it would be better to buy a vintage refin strat with that same money instead. This is a guitar that you buy because in 10 years it will double or triple in value.
This is for collectors over players. I was talking about it with other RHCP fans and said how stupid it was to buy something that replicated damage and they were like "but then it'd just be a regular strat" as if it still isn't? Especially if there is more than one, it just makes people look foolish with money to burn. And if you tried to use it to perform, you'd look like the ultimate poser.
Abigail retired some time ago, so id say these are definitely just random 60s style custom shop pickups, which like you said, SUCKS for 20k lol. In the klinghoffer rig rundown, they mention how Josh's strats had Abigail pickups which fender have a supply of, under lock and key, for special guitars. But regardless, to fit with the rest of the guitar, this should have pickups replicating john's originals/whatever are in there.
Incorrect. She came out of retirement earlier this year. If you search “Abigail Ybarra and Castedosa. The ABI Model” you will see her, she is very elderly, but that was March this year. So I believe she would have wound these.
@thegoodguy44 what did I say that was incorrect? - she is retired, but often does small batches for fender. - she doesn't perfectly replicate specific pickups. She is known for being THE pickup person since Leo was building guitars. Don't try put people down with your narcissist tendencies when in all reality, you just added nothing to the conversation.
any predictions as to when they release the affordable version? they will probably price it at around 2K- 2.5$, at least I hope the don't go above that
His guitar has a 3-way switch and not a 5-way. Not sure about the 7.25 radius neck. Read from his former guitar tech Dave Lee they changed the radius to 9..
Apparently Paul Waller wound pickups for John’s 55 Strat after he came back to the band for Unlimited Love. So there’s definitely a spec they could have used, but this being the 62 it would have been interesting to solve the mystery of which pickups he’s actually using. Maybe he is using stock Abigail Ybarra 60’s?
This is just my opinion. Signature models aren’t cool, and I’ve never been compelled to want to have a guitar, that was directly tied to one specific artist. I just don’t see how they’re special. For a new artist on the come up, I’m sure it’d be amazing to get a signature guitar. For someone like Frusciante though, the only allure, would be money ( which he already has ) Everyone seems to have one these days. Rick Beato has a signature guitar lol. Slash has like 30+. James Hetfield has over 80 🤣
20 grand for a FACTORY strat is ridiculous... The cost for all those parts, build time, relic labor, and licensing. All that can't even crack 8K!!!!.. You can buy a top of the line PRS for that!. I love JF, he is my all time favorite player. But Fender is ridiculous. Especially when you realize that the guitar's assembly can be done allmost entirely with a philips head screwdriver!!
Oof. I've already had a problem swallowing the fact that people will pay over $1k for a guitar that gets "professionally" beaten to shit to make it look old... it feels inauthentic and fake to me. Then, the next tier that is even harder for me to swallow is people paying even MORE money to get a guitar beaten to shit to LOOK like someone ELSE'S guitar... And then, this?? Man, I'm a HUGE Frusciante fan. LOVE his work in the Chilis. And while I would never get a replica guitar of his, I'm happy for those who get a chance to mimick his guitar, if that's really what floats their boat. But TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEY DONT EVENT SPECIFY WHETHER OR NOT THE PICKUPS ARE MADE COMPLETELY AUTHENTICALLY TO JOHN'S SPECS???? The pickups ARE the tone?!? You pay enough money to BUY A NEW CAR and you don't even get a 100% spec'd, down to the finest details recreation?? It makes it even more pathetic - have fun dressing up as a rock star and playing in your room with your toy $20k guitar prop. Just disgusting.
For the price you can get a nice custom-shop Stratocaster and a high end amp with boutique pedals. Heck add few thousands and you can get a “real” vintage strat. 😅😅.
@@blakebeamer i dont think the reason is known, but id assume warping/cracking as you can see it cracked along the neck pickup typical screw spot in early pics right before its swapped out, sometimes it causes weird resonance issues with the neck pickup, people refer to it as 'stratitus' with old strats lol
Why tf would anyone buy this? 1) wanting the specific wear and tear that's on John's strat is insane and obsessive. 2) even if I did understand valuing someone else's guitat, this isn't even his guitar! It's a replica.
Obviously not interested in the masterbuilt version, I would have been in the Mexican version but if it has the 7.25 radius and narrow tall frets combination, like the masterbuilt, this is a recipe for a high action and not to my taste. I can’t fucking stand narrow tall frets. Such a shame…
I hope they don’t sell a single one of them. This is grimy. They’ve made affordable replicas before (look at the EVH replicas for like $2500) This is ludicrous and I hope they sell a total of ZERO.
The "Custom Shop" and its "Master Builders" is the biggest cash-grab in modern guitar history, along with those insanely-priced Gibson limited editions. They use the exact same woods as the regular run guitars, nothing remotely special about them. But businesses will do what businesses do, obviously- it's maximally lucrative for them, so why not. The Custom Shop used to be worthy of its name, but now it just churns out stuff by the tens of thousands, and does "limited editions" like this of standard spec'd instruments with some extra relic work. None of the wood is hand-carved, all the "master builders" do is assemble + setup, they don't even paint them- and I'm not sure who does the relic work. These guitars are not inspired, magical, pieces of art- they are just a byproduct of late-stage capitalism and merely bargaining chips for the rich who will never play them. Sad state of affairs, surprised Frusciante even signed off on this tbh.
This confirms, in my mind, that the only reason he came back to the band was a cash grab. He only had a few million dollars left and an expensive divorce settlement. There goes my hero.
Between the Mother's milk and BSSM era, Frusciante was at his best as a live player. Since then, yawn, and to be honest, the Froosh worship is totally over the top imho. He is a decent player no doubt, but there are many out there who would wipe the floor with him. As for the price of this guitar, frankly, it's obscene. 20,000 for this guitar when you can get a top notch custom shop for around one QUARTER of the price, but without the 'superstar status' mark up of course. For anywhere between 3,000 and 6,000 you can get a very finely crafted instrument, with perfect finishing, made to your exact specifications. This as usual demonstrates the success of marketing campaigns over production costs, the sometimes cynical nature of well respected brands, and is usually aimed at those with more money than sense. Crazy world eh.
Well I wouldn't say you can use him to wipe anything, especially live or improvising wise. I do think that creatively with RHCP after Californication it's not their best. Now on solo or other projects he did interesting stuff. But if you think that good guitar work is only the funk rock, psychedelic harder stuff... i understand but he did good work after that, just not his best eventually or oriented to the stuff you like the most. He is one of the best of his generation, for sure. Now the guitar... absurd price yes. I was never into signature stuff, whether it's Frusciante or Gilmour. I have my own signature strat.
So you knew...Interesting most people would share w/their audience out of respect. I guess we all know who the NARC in the room is for future reference. Don't placate me like I'm your mother boy.
😂 thinking I, or “most people”, would share everything with you guys is incredibly naive. If I share everything I’m told, then no one would share anything with me because I can’t be trusted.
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Couldn't agree more about the pickups, apparently the worlds biggest mystery still hasn't been solved on what they are. This is just a collector's item tho. I wish i was someone who had access as you could triple your money w/this in probably a month.
Soon as I saw this I was lookin forward to your breakdown!
my jaw dropped when i saw the price. i knew it’d be unaffordable, but damn. that’s a used car. maybe two used cars.
Yay another awesome guitar that Doctors, lawyers and dentists can add to their collections.
As a lawyer, I still need 2 years of savings to be able to freely afford this without cutting into my own budget lol
same here as a doctor. stop hating man. this guitar isnt for players
I just saw on Andertons website-it will be a run of 100
Fender and John still have 2 more. Strat with maple neck and the telecaster 🎉
The price is absolutely insane. You can get a custom build PRS for less. I can buy a ORIGINAL 1968 pink paisley for 20k or less
This isn’t for players, it’s for collectors.
agree
Totally agree
It’s to build hype for the crappy mass produced Mexican build they’ll be charging over 2k for
@ guitars are so expensive these days…it’s unbelievable.
Amen💯
At 20k, it's absolutely disgustingly priced and a complete cash grab from Fender. Cannot get behind this.
Looks the same as 90% of custom shop heavy relics that can be picked up second hand for about 3.5k
I am on the live stream thank you guys!
They're making up to 100 examples. Yes, up to.
I’m looking forward to a MIM production model. I’ll be on that pre-order fast.
John is the reason I started playing 25 years ago and never stopped. I don’t want this strat - I friggin need it!’
I already own too many strats. But I can’t turn this one down.
John's 62 Strat had Seymour Duncun SSL1's when he got it. He used those pick ups from Californication up until recently rejoined the band... After stadium arcadium he was playing guitars with humbuckers more on his solo stuff, and when he rejoined the band he put some kinda higher output single coils in his strat.
On the subject of the pick ups I believe they went for that just because Jon put some fender pickups in his 50s Stratocaster and he probably liked it so why not go for the same fender custom shop high and pick ups for the 60s? I mean if he was fine with the SSL's or the random American made whatever Stratocaster pickups, I'm sure he's gonna be happy with these hand made ones. Would've been great if fender did one of those videos where they show footage of the master build team checking the guitar. We can only hope that they will shine the lights on the mystery of these pick ups that we never knew for sure.. but honestly if he doesn't have the original ones from 62 any other boutique high-end 60s vibe pick ups will do😅
3:00 yeah, almost.
There is a listing for this guitar on Reverb. It states 1 of 100. I haven't seen a number posted anywhere else.
Okay that’s interesting
I’d rather they do a version of his custom Tele he played at Slane/Off The Map
Yesterday Gibson dropped the Kirk Hammett Collection.
At some point Fender needs to do the Frusciante Collection …
I think I prefer to keep both of my kidneys.
"John was nearly impossible to work with." Yep, that's on brand. Someone should've just told him, we can make your Martin acoustic too, we can make a custom fkn midi stack if you want! He was probably like yea you can do it but leave me out of it. I'm not doing any interviews. Guess he fell for the $ in the end, like everyone
That's what makes me mad, I'm so disappointed of John.
@@luciano0593Yeah, for a guy who was uncomfortable (back in the the early 90s) with the band playing stadiums because he thought they were selling out and weren’t playing to “real fans,” this seems like a real “jumping the shark” moment.
I mean, the guy is already insanely rich, so I’m trying to understand his mindset here.
@@LeonRus5660 yes it's really against his values and who he's always been, it surprises me more of his fans aren't bothered by this guitar coming out.
Abigail Ybarra came out of retirement earlier this year. The video, search for it on here, “Abigail Ybarra and Castedosa. The ABI Model”, is what she was working on earlier this year. She is very elderly. So you can bet your bottom dollar that she wound these pickups for these guitars. But like he said in this video, John would not have tested the pickups and offered any modifications, Mike Mccreedy certainly did. If John had been involved they would have been advertising that big time. They are probably just going to be Custom shop 60’s of whatever John chose, but Abigail either wound all of them, or oversaw the winding while it was happening. She’s so elite that she could probably wind a single pickup in 20 minutes. So she could have done all of them over a few weeks. It’s not crazy numbers of pickups she had to wind.
waiting for the USA standard or Mexico made. i hope they release those. btw, i saw on Andertons web 100 guitars are made. idk.
My American Vintage Reissue 62 Strat from about 20 years ago was $1400. I'd expect a MIM version of this to be $2000 or less. I'd still play my reissue daily, but keep the MIM signature as a collector's item, like I'm doing with the Flea pink bass.
For the 20 grand version... I wouldn't be able to afford this AND a divorce, so I'm deciding to stay married and just wait for the MIM!
I gave some thought about this guitar. It's one of the best relic jobs I've seen and I have to give it to them for doing such a good job. It's way better than the prototypes John had on the road. I wouldn't be able to play the guitar though, because I would want it to stay in the state that John had it and not add my own wear. So, in the end, I think it would be better to buy a vintage refin strat with that same money instead. This is a guitar that you buy because in 10 years it will double or triple in value.
This is for collectors over players. I was talking about it with other RHCP fans and said how stupid it was to buy something that replicated damage and they were like "but then it'd just be a regular strat" as if it still isn't? Especially if there is more than one, it just makes people look foolish with money to burn. And if you tried to use it to perform, you'd look like the ultimate poser.
I’ve read johns Strat has 2000s standard Strat pickups in it.
it did according to dave lee, until he came back this time, they put the originals back in.
john says seymour duncan ssl-1's
Abigail retired some time ago, so id say these are definitely just random 60s style custom shop pickups, which like you said, SUCKS for 20k lol.
In the klinghoffer rig rundown, they mention how Josh's strats had Abigail pickups which fender have a supply of, under lock and key, for special guitars. But regardless, to fit with the rest of the guitar, this should have pickups replicating john's originals/whatever are in there.
Incorrect. She came out of retirement earlier this year. If you search “Abigail Ybarra and Castedosa. The ABI Model” you will see her, she is very elderly, but that was March this year. So I believe she would have wound these.
@thegoodguy44 what did I say that was incorrect?
- she is retired, but often does small batches for fender.
- she doesn't perfectly replicate specific pickups. She is known for being THE pickup person since Leo was building guitars.
Don't try put people down with your narcissist tendencies when in all reality, you just added nothing to the conversation.
Yea, i was hoping you would turn that cam on. Preciate the update. Can I borrow a lot of money?
any predictions as to when they release the affordable version? they will probably price it at around 2K- 2.5$, at least I hope the don't go above that
His guitar has a 3-way switch and not a 5-way. Not sure about the 7.25 radius neck. Read from his former guitar tech Dave Lee they changed the radius to 9..
Yes I think they did the wrong radius. 7.25 is not easy to play…
the obvious thing would be that JF actually uses those pickups in his Stratocaster?
Check updates man, she will handwound specific pickups for this one ;)
Apparently Paul Waller wound pickups for John’s 55 Strat after he came back to the band for Unlimited Love. So there’s definitely a spec they could have used, but this being the 62 it would have been interesting to solve the mystery of which pickups he’s actually using. Maybe he is using stock Abigail Ybarra 60’s?
Do you have a source for that for the 55?
Nevermind, it was from that Total Guitar interview! Thanks for the reminder, that’s a good connection
@@JustinJeske I tried pasting the link to the Total Guitar Interview, but it wasn't working, but yes, that's where I read it.
Just posted my video in portuguese about it as well, but here in the UK pre-sale is 18.699 BRITISH pounds! 😅😂
Yeah that’s pricey lol
@ let's hope those roadworn version are still yet to come LOL
This is just my opinion. Signature models aren’t cool, and I’ve never been compelled to want to have a guitar, that was directly tied to one specific artist. I just don’t see how they’re special. For a new artist on the come up, I’m sure it’d be amazing to get a signature guitar. For someone like Frusciante though, the only allure, would be money ( which he already has ) Everyone seems to have one these days. Rick Beato has a signature guitar lol. Slash has like 30+. James Hetfield has over 80 🤣
For that price,not way they would put wrong pickups
Fender cashing in for bringing back rosewood. 😄
Good Lord!
20 K best Price ever made :'D My biggest wish is the Fender Fiesta Red Frusciante Guitar :D
20 grand for a FACTORY strat is ridiculous...
The cost for all those parts, build time, relic labor, and licensing. All that can't even crack 8K!!!!..
You can buy a top of the line PRS for that!.
I love JF, he is my all time favorite player. But Fender is ridiculous. Especially when you realize that the guitar's assembly can be done allmost entirely with a philips head screwdriver!!
The mexico version is 2.5k which isn't bad
Can't I just go through the Custom Shop Guide, select the Master Built level and then just tell him to create this specific strat for half that price?
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Oof. I've already had a problem swallowing the fact that people will pay over $1k for a guitar that gets "professionally" beaten to shit to make it look old... it feels inauthentic and fake to me. Then, the next tier that is even harder for me to swallow is people paying even MORE money to get a guitar beaten to shit to LOOK like someone ELSE'S guitar...
And then, this?? Man, I'm a HUGE Frusciante fan. LOVE his work in the Chilis. And while I would never get a replica guitar of his, I'm happy for those who get a chance to mimick his guitar, if that's really what floats their boat.
But TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS AND THEY DONT EVENT SPECIFY WHETHER OR NOT THE PICKUPS ARE MADE COMPLETELY AUTHENTICALLY TO JOHN'S SPECS???? The pickups ARE the tone?!? You pay enough money to BUY A NEW CAR and you don't even get a 100% spec'd, down to the finest details recreation?? It makes it even more pathetic - have fun dressing up as a rock star and playing in your room with your toy $20k guitar prop. Just disgusting.
For the price you can get a nice custom-shop Stratocaster and a high end amp with boutique pedals. Heck add few thousands and you can get a “real” vintage strat. 😅😅.
I think even John thinks this is ridiculous. but at the end it's about $$
When did Frusciante replace the pickguard?
1998-9
@@johnpickk7526 didn't like the color? Or was it warping too bad or something?
@@blakebeamer i dont think the reason is known, but id assume warping/cracking as you can see it cracked along the neck pickup typical screw spot in early pics right before its swapped out, sometimes it causes weird resonance issues with the neck pickup, people refer to it as 'stratitus' with old strats lol
They took the mcgreAAady strat and changed a few things. One if them was the price.. Insired by gibson is just not epiphone anymore
19k in the UK. Could buy a real one for that. Not for me.
Thanks for sharing justin, im planning on grabbing one. Could share details on it if/when i get it if you are interested
cool good luck😊
That’s awesome, for sure! Would love to hear from you!
Why tf would anyone buy this? 1) wanting the specific wear and tear that's on John's strat is insane and obsessive.
2) even if I did understand valuing someone else's guitat, this isn't even his guitar! It's a replica.
Obviously not interested in the masterbuilt version, I would have been in the Mexican version but if it has the 7.25 radius and narrow tall frets combination, like the masterbuilt, this is a recipe for a high action and not to my taste.
I can’t fucking stand narrow tall frets. Such a shame…
Simply ridiculous! Respect for John as a great guitarist, but that's it.
So how much is a real 1962 strat? 🤣
It will be out of the price range of 99% of guitarists, and that is a shame? Even the Mexican version will be overpriced!
Again prove Fender is only in it for the money.
What a ridicilous price.😲🤬🤬🤬
I hope they don’t sell a single one of them. This is grimy. They’ve made affordable replicas before (look at the EVH replicas for like $2500)
This is ludicrous and I hope they sell a total of ZERO.
Well... I think I will never buy fender.
Hell a beat up $200 dollar strat...He aint that good. Hes alright...But to sell an old strat as new is a ripski...
The "Custom Shop" and its "Master Builders" is the biggest cash-grab in modern guitar history, along with those insanely-priced Gibson limited editions. They use the exact same woods as the regular run guitars, nothing remotely special about them. But businesses will do what businesses do, obviously- it's maximally lucrative for them, so why not. The Custom Shop used to be worthy of its name, but now it just churns out stuff by the tens of thousands, and does "limited editions" like this of standard spec'd instruments with some extra relic work. None of the wood is hand-carved, all the "master builders" do is assemble + setup, they don't even paint them- and I'm not sure who does the relic work. These guitars are not inspired, magical, pieces of art- they are just a byproduct of late-stage capitalism and merely bargaining chips for the rich who will never play them. Sad state of affairs, surprised Frusciante even signed off on this tbh.
This confirms, in my mind, that the only reason he came back to the band was a cash grab. He only had a few million dollars left and an expensive divorce settlement. There goes my hero.
How do u know that ?
Between the Mother's milk and BSSM era, Frusciante was at his best as a live player. Since then, yawn, and to be honest, the Froosh worship is totally over the top imho. He is a decent player no doubt, but there are many out there who would wipe the floor with him. As for the price of this guitar, frankly, it's obscene. 20,000 for this guitar when you can get a top notch custom shop for around one QUARTER of the price, but without the 'superstar status' mark up of course. For anywhere between 3,000 and 6,000 you can get a very finely crafted instrument, with perfect finishing, made to your exact specifications. This as usual demonstrates the success of marketing campaigns over production costs, the sometimes cynical nature of well respected brands, and is usually aimed at those with more money than sense. Crazy world eh.
Well I wouldn't say you can use him to wipe anything, especially live or improvising wise. I do think that creatively with RHCP after Californication it's not their best. Now on solo or other projects he did interesting stuff. But if you think that good guitar work is only the funk rock, psychedelic harder stuff... i understand but he did good work after that, just not his best eventually or oriented to the stuff you like the most. He is one of the best of his generation, for sure. Now the guitar... absurd price yes. I was never into signature stuff, whether it's Frusciante or Gilmour. I have my own signature strat.
So you knew...Interesting most people would share w/their audience out of respect. I guess we all know who the NARC in the room is for future reference. Don't placate me like I'm your mother boy.
😂 thinking I, or “most people”, would share everything with you guys is incredibly naive. If I share everything I’m told, then no one would share anything with me because I can’t be trusted.