TRF Neurofeedback Forum with Bessel van der Kolk, Sebern Fisher, and Ruth Lanius

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  • @therockpile6734
    @therockpile6734 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I start neurofeedback therapy next Wednesday, I'm excited about it.

  • @murphy8839
    @murphy8839 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This research is so profound. Why is it not main stream already?!?

    • @humanoid8344
      @humanoid8344 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not enough sham controlled double blind studies

  • @createcollaborate
    @createcollaborate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Where does one go to find a competent trauma informed neurofeedback therapist? Is there a listing of folks who have completed training? Thanks.

    • @lucyhanks500
      @lucyhanks500 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Carl Yungs theory of shadow and behavioural devolution? Should I post an ironic emoji in the belief that I’m funny?
      How about promote the lives of dysfunctional men to women experiencing a dark triad of emotions? The logical assumption would be that darkness attracts darkness, right. What is emotional and psychological functionality in todays world, accepting oneself in reflection of another? Without psychotic misperception of one’s own internal content and dialogue, which affects external environment. Makes me think that darkness is the predominant factor in cultural behaviours.

    • @lucyhanks500
      @lucyhanks500 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Conversely, having the Latin name which means bearer of light, or the lamp of learning, encourages me to believe that if I were split into a male and female twin, a lamp of learning at the sight of darkness might have an altogether different interpretation be I a male. That could be genderist misconceptions on my behalf toward the notion of patience in differing genders though.
      Interesting the theory of behavioural dominance tempered by the process of covert manipulation, as to the question of what is darkness and what is human morality and decency. Do humans really have an overriding higher nature?

  • @marciaharms465
    @marciaharms465 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I totally agree with Bessel about Ruth. She is so exciting to be on this along with the other two specialists. Hooray!

  • @bhavyakaushal07
    @bhavyakaushal07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like the jenga style piled book stack behind Dr Kolk. I was anxious it’s gonna topple 🤣💜

    • @ashley-martindunn296
      @ashley-martindunn296 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think it's a "floating bookshelf". it looks like a jenga stack but it's supported back there

    • @lucyhanks500
      @lucyhanks500 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      noticed the missing traumas not mentioned along John Jack and Peter, were any of the women in the family. Whilst some of the gospels & apostles were mentioned, there wasn’t a Luke, Matthew, or Michael, or a George Elliot writing under a male pseudonym, as to not end like a roasted ostracised bird on the Christmas dinner table, to feed his psychoanalyst guests on.
      And I guess, when I keep seeing this tv advertising campaign of an empty shopping trolley, like a Dickensian story of Bob Cratchit near Christmas time, the process of filling up your trolley with things of quantities you either don’t know or don’t like seems wondrous, like the question ‘why do we consume’. As if it were a coerced process, rather than a necessity.
      Interesting what the modern world deems inessential yet lends heavily from for no apparent reason. Maybe bones of contention to hobnob over, like they increase in philosophical value in and of themselves.

  • @MandyWoodArtist
    @MandyWoodArtist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am studying counselling and I am very interested in Neurofeedback because it is so visual in its measuring capabilities both for clients and clinicians. I am just wondering how the sham group were able to have a 30% positive outcome that lasted 3 months - how were the 30% measured because Ruth said their neurofeedback view did not change - did they just measure their success off the client's state of emotional feelings and what does it mean that people can feel better but not have a brain change?

  • @ashley-martindunn296
    @ashley-martindunn296 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the rapport on display here

  • @mamasmagicalquests
    @mamasmagicalquests 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so taken with neurofeedback, thank you for this video. Did you get a database of practitioners? I am looking for a therapist/practitioner in Capetown, South Africa. Please make a referral if possible. Thank you

  • @rachelgarst6884
    @rachelgarst6884 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It drives me crazy that Bessel recommends Neurofeedback so strongly, but then I can't figure out what kind, exactly, nor how to find a reputable practitioner in my area. (I keep going to people that clearly just got a hold of some equipment but are untrained.)

  • @vivtodd2473
    @vivtodd2473 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What date was this? No given with video 🙏🏻

  • @Applebanger
    @Applebanger ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is very informative and gives me hope. In Germany, where I live, neurofeedback is relatively unknown and firmly in the hands of people with very little medical expertise - alternative practitioners and occupational therapists, and maybe some coaches. Only a few doctors and psychotherapists, and you have to be lucky to have one near the place where you live. But psychotherapy these days is not really an option because since the pandemic you have to wait 6 to 12 month minimum to get an appointment, and that's for therapists who aren't even very specialized. As for the non-medical practitioners, this is something unique to our country, the standards are very low and you can basically call yourself "Heilpraktiker" after declaring you don't intend to harm people and completing a handful of seminars. This is not to say there aren't some who know what they're doing, but most will have a focus on herbal medicine and such. You don't really want them to mess with your brain... The occupational therapists mostly either don't have the equipment in the first place because it's expensive and not used as a standard, or they have it but the only person who can use it has only done a 2-weeks training and/or not much practical experience. I experienced that first-hand because I went to three different of these therapists before I found a doctor experienced in neurofeedback. She's highly skilled, still health insurance won't cover the treatment. Unlike the occupational therapy before, which was a disaster (one of them needed three appointments to even get the machine running properly). I'm not sure how the situation became so absurd... In a nutshell you can say that in Germany there are only few people able to use the full potential of neurofeedback, and apart from that it's a somewhat exotic therapy tool seldom used by some alternative practitioners and occupational therapists. As a result, people who suffer from trauma or depression, even if they happen to know about neurofeedback, will probably not find anyone skilled enough to treat them. And then most people, including medical professionals, don't even know the method exists in the first place. It's such a powerful tool, it should be standard in the field of psychological disorders. Instead it's used only in a very narrow range, by people who have little or no knowledge about how the brain works, thus contributing little to its advancement or changing the status quo.

    • @nilshoffmann7001
      @nilshoffmann7001 ปีที่แล้ว

      100% agreed. Where in Germany are you and would you mind sharing the name of your practitioner? They sure are hard to come by…

    • @Elizabeth-bz2mi
      @Elizabeth-bz2mi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got neurofeedback in Germany - in Northeim (Niedersachsen) a couple of years ago. It was the office of an Occupational Therapist, apparently specializing in treating kids who had ADHD. I would really like to know just what kind of NF specifically would have the kinds of effects talked about in the video! I've watched a lot of videos with v.d. Kolk but there's no specific info I could take to the OT...
      But my health insure paid for it because my doctor prescribed it - the OT office told me me what codes the doctor should put on the Rx. Whatever they did, it seemed to at least have a bit of a stabilizing effect. And once I experienced a profound feeling of being OK. Hard to describe briefly, but it was wonderful, and stayed with me a while. Anyway, it wasn't done with video games where I actually try to do anything with my brain - just electrodes on the head, headphones and me watching nature programs. And I never met the OT. His ass't. interviewed me once before the beginning, and she definitely knew nothing about psychology, let alone therapy. (But I was seeing my own therapist anyway.)
      www.ergo-nom.de/neurofeedback/

  • @Ann-ws2dj
    @Ann-ws2dj ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does neurofeedback work for fibromyalgia

    • @MandyWoodArtist
      @MandyWoodArtist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a good question.

    • @wwil1150
      @wwil1150 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I think so

  • @user-nx6ji9tk8i
    @user-nx6ji9tk8i ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Once 50% of your school populations has been traumatised, you don,t set up a clinic, you change the school to manage the trauma. Can anyone see the parallel with obesity and overweight now half our population has become so overweight - don,t set up a clinic but change the culture & the food system! As recognised for decades.

    • @brightsky5586
      @brightsky5586 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you are from the United States, they want us fat and traumatized. How else would this country get rich?

  • @johnathanabrams8434
    @johnathanabrams8434 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so unbelievably stupid. Never underestimate how much nociceptive inputs coming from the periphery can have bioplstic changes on your organism