Gotta agree with you on all points there. I wanted an 09 last year, but I test rode it and I wasn't sold on it. So I was contemplating it over the fall and boom these beauties dropped! Put a deposit down in November, and picked it up in the dark metallic red about a month ago. Almost 1000 km later and it feels amazing. I have everything dialed in for my weight and the bike is solid. Up here, we have tones of potholes and road snakes, but she eats them up like nothing. Gravel too.
A 3 cyl motor is a really good motorcycle power plant. "Almost the Torque of a Twin" and "Almost the top end of an inline 4 cyl. One of my bikes, is a 2001 955i Triumph Sprint ST. The Howl of a 3 is Awesome ! I own a Victory Cross Country for touring, so I think the Yamaha FZ09 is a good replacement for the Triumph. And I will still have the Triple Sound with the Yamaha. Great Review Bryan.
The most useful review of the new FZ09 I've watched so far... I currently ride a SV650A and I've got my eyes on this new FZ09 as my next bike so, watching your reviews (SV650A and FZ09) back to back was priceless! Now I know that I have to be cautious about the seat height and center of gravity. By the way, your comments on SV650A are totally accurate.
How tall are you? I'm 5'10 w/30" inseam and i can have both feet on the ground if they're on the balls of my feet. Or one foot firmly planted with the smallest of leans.
Jordan Blanchette We're exactly the same, 5'10 with W30 inseam!! This is great news to me as it eliminates the most important problem in my riding habit. Thanks a lot for your feedback!
The real question is would you have preferred to have this bike with you when you went up to the dragon for the week back a few months ago or would you have picked the FJR for the comfort.
You said you are 6'2" with 32" inseam. I'm exactly the same size. You are talking about how the suspension is much approved but how much do you weigh? Do you think this bike would accommodate a 140# passenger well for 150 mile Saturday rides?
In your review, you mentioned the shift pedal was mushy below first gear. The shifter on my fz-09 is solid below first. Did you have the same issue on the bike you bought?
TC yes. The QS here is optional and is up only, with very mixed reviews especially at lower RPMs. I only find them useful when they are both up and down personally. BMW does it best.
Atleast the quickshifter in S1000R is garbage. It's like poking a sponge with your foot. No feel whatsoever. Haven't tried the ones which go up and down.
Great review! Loved my First Ride of this 2017 FZ-09 last week. Many great improvements over previous years. Yamaha's color choices in NA leave something to be desired, worse in Canada vs. USA imho. Beyond that performance per dollar is hard to beat!
I agree - I love the blue and grey options they have overseas this year. The white and silver look like unpainted kids models, red is the only good option at all here right now.
Great review Bryan (as usual). Any thoughts on the recently announced Yamaha Star Venture? Hogs and such have never done it for me but I'm not completely turned off by the new Yamaha. I've only recently upgraded my 2004 FJR with a 2016 FJR AE and just had a great tour of North Wales (UK) but I like where Yamaha are going with the new model, even though it's not an FJR replacement. Just interested in everyone's opinion
I was at Daytona last week and was able to demo the GSXR 750 and the FZ09 and i gotta tell you the the GSXR to me was so much better. Granted the GSXR is more expensive..
I bought one about a month ago. Love it except had to buy a Sargent seat. Stock one hurt my testicles bad. Too bad you live in FL So hot and no hills. I'm in NE AL. Roads here could not be better for M/C riding. No traffic and weather good most of the year.
my main gripes about this bike arent the usual ones you hear about. my main beef with the fz09 in general is the quality of the clutch/transmission and the fuelling/throttle at low rpms. throttle on/off is absolutely abysmal on these bikes. yamaha threw on the cheap electronic throttle just as a selling point i feel, on top of them tuning it lean as all hell from the factory. a deadly combo (in the bad way)
Arkansas Motorcycle Rides I was bout to buy the CB1000R but too many people talk negatively about that bike, also non of the dealers around me has it, so probably something wrong with it
I researched the bike for months traced it back when it was only being sold in europe where it know as the hornet. Not one negative review i could find...the biggest gripe was the instrument cluster was hard to see...My advice if your interested in any bike do your own research and dont listen to the guy down the street...WE have three dealerships around the little rock area that have them in stock so their goes that theory if they dont have them they must be no good...
You are talking about a Yoshimura pipe, but isn't it an Akrapovic? Here in The Netherlands it is. Pricewise it doesn't make much difference. A great difference for me is the new ugly headlights. I liked the old better.
For me, I pretty much would be plunking down the money on suspension parts even on the 2017. Rear shock is meh. Front forks are improved but still not on par with the engine/chassis capability. So depending on the parts, a shock can run 650-1100 and fork cartridges usually run just over 1,000 for this bike. That puts the price over 10,500. Now it's kind of another ball game in terms of price category. For instance, a GSX-S1000 sits in the same price range as a FZ-09 with upgraded suspension, yet it carries about 30 more HP and 15 more torque with suspension that is solid and confidence inspiring right off the showroom. If I didn't want to fiddle with the suspension, the new Z900 has been rated better so far by a few direct comparisons in feeling more stable, planted, and better balanced in OEM form. It's got a slight advantage in power-to-weight as well. Larger fuel capacity as well (3L more). Has ABS without all the other electronic nannies which most have said it simply does not need due to it's tractability, balance, and progressive power. What else? I guess the GSX-750 also falls just beneath the FZ-09 while having nearly similar HP from factory but less torque. More revs required but some people find that sort of thing thrilling and engaging. I tested the last FZ-09 and haven't tested the new one yet. I'm currently leaning toward the Z900 which I will test in a few weeks, as well as the tweaked GSX-S1000 (2017, revised ECU, power improvements with crankcase ventilation mods). FZ-09, Z900, GSX-S750 all have great gear ratios for all-round street use. The GSX-S1000 has track ratios which Suzuki was negligent in revising, but has piles of power to make up for it.
a 400 pound 100 horsepower bike for 8k? gotta love the Japanese.
They're 9K, but even that is a bargain for what you're getting.
dhunley1 They started out at $8,000 in 2014.
Msrp on showroom is like 8500 here of course after dealer fees it's well into 9k.
James Townsey Still better than $13,000 for the FZ-10.
Jeff RT oh anything Japanese is better than any other maker.
Gotta agree with you on all points there. I wanted an 09 last year, but I test rode it and I wasn't sold on it. So I was contemplating it over the fall and boom these beauties dropped! Put a deposit down in November, and picked it up in the dark metallic red about a month ago. Almost 1000 km later and it feels amazing. I have everything dialed in for my weight and the bike is solid. Up here, we have tones of potholes and road snakes, but she eats them up like nothing. Gravel too.
A 3 cyl motor is a really good motorcycle power plant. "Almost the Torque of a Twin" and "Almost the top end of an inline 4 cyl. One of my bikes, is a 2001 955i Triumph Sprint ST. The Howl of a 3 is Awesome ! I own a Victory Cross Country for touring, so I think the Yamaha FZ09 is a good replacement for the Triumph. And I will still have the Triple Sound with the Yamaha. Great Review Bryan.
Another great review Bryan. Was looking toward to you riding this. 👍
the 2017 FZ09 was my first bike,I love it..Cant compare to much else but Im digging it. It drives better than I do
I love my FZ-09...Intensity White 😉 I've modded mine up pretty sweet.
The most useful review of the new FZ09 I've watched so far... I currently ride a SV650A and I've got my eyes on this new FZ09 as my next bike so, watching your reviews (SV650A and FZ09) back to back was priceless! Now I know that I have to be cautious about the seat height and center of gravity. By the way, your comments on SV650A are totally accurate.
How tall are you? I'm 5'10 w/30" inseam and i can have both feet on the ground if they're on the balls of my feet. Or one foot firmly planted with the smallest of leans.
Jordan Blanchette We're exactly the same, 5'10 with W30 inseam!! This is great news to me as it eliminates the most important problem in my riding habit. Thanks a lot for your feedback!
Subtle Groove no problem! Let me know if you have any more questions.
I agree 👍gazworld🌍
The real question is would you have preferred to have this bike with you when you went up to the dragon for the week back a few months ago or would you have picked the FJR for the comfort.
Good review , why did you choose the fz 09 over gsx s 1000. I'm on the fence on both of these bikes.
You said you are 6'2" with 32" inseam. I'm exactly the same size. You are talking about how the suspension is much approved but how much do you weigh? Do you think this bike would accommodate a 140# passenger well for 150 mile Saturday rides?
just got the white one. love it. so happy w/ my choice. perfect all around bike.. commuter, weekend twisties, highway cruiser.
I got the white one too! Check out my Vids.😎
Nice,how’s the seat comfort?
What do you think of the MT-10?
What Mode are you in a B or rain
congrats Brian, always enjoy your videos.
Nice step up from the prev one.
Love the Duc-like rear mudguard, and this deep red color is a beaut
The comfort seat elevates the seat height a little but it's a nice upgrade. Yamaha really hit a homerun with the 2017 FZ-09.
They definitely did!!
Nice review Bryan. I've also been interested in the new FZ-09. As well as the FJ-09! Thanks
Excellent video as always. Can you try out the new Suzuki GSX-S750 and the Kawasaki Z900?
That sound... Oh yes. Though the one you did the walk around didn't have the pipe. Any idea which one it was?
Ride was Yoshimura. Walkaround was stock
Nice review mate, I love the color of your bike, nice red. Thanks for posting.
Did you get it?
Are you getting rid of the FJR? That is quite a change.
In your review, you mentioned the shift pedal was mushy below first gear. The shifter on my fz-09 is solid below first. Did you have the same issue on the bike you bought?
No, it seems to have been an issue on that demo unit.
Did you have quick shift & two stage traction control? it's standard in Europe.
TC yes. The QS here is optional and is up only, with very mixed reviews especially at lower RPMs. I only find them useful when they are both up and down personally. BMW does it best.
Atleast the quickshifter in S1000R is garbage. It's like poking a sponge with your foot. No feel whatsoever.
Haven't tried the ones which go up and down.
What is over run?
The popping after you let off the throttle
Tom M ii
Great review! Loved my First Ride of this 2017 FZ-09 last week. Many great improvements over previous years. Yamaha's color choices in NA leave something to be desired, worse in Canada vs. USA imho. Beyond that performance per dollar is hard to beat!
I agree - I love the blue and grey options they have overseas this year. The white and silver look like unpainted kids models, red is the only good option at all here right now.
Great review Bryan (as usual).
Any thoughts on the recently announced Yamaha Star Venture? Hogs and such have never done it for me but I'm not completely turned off by the new Yamaha.
I've only recently upgraded my 2004 FJR with a 2016 FJR AE and just had a great tour of North Wales (UK) but I like where Yamaha are going with the new model, even though it's not an FJR replacement. Just interested in everyone's opinion
+Steve Lintott not my personal style but I'll review it asap
It's got a small tank; 14L.
Doesn't the bike have a quickshifter for upward gear changes?
Only the MT 09 does as a standard. The american FZ doesnt have it stock.
But its wired for one. And though it's a small tank, I have gotten around 240 highway on a single tank. Of course, that's not pinning it wide open.
240 miles on a tank is good.
In Britain, the quickshifter comes as standard. That's what confused me.
Sorry, km not miles
Still not bad.
Can you do a review on the 17' Kawi Z900?
TWO Nice review and channel. Thanks for posting.
The XSR is so much nicer. I just bought one. Thanks for the videos.
There are both great. I have the 2017 XSR but the FZ looks sportier. Either way that triple is awesome.
Slaps Twowheels helmet to get the brain farts out,LOL.Thankyou for the good review!!!!
I was at Daytona last week and was able to demo the GSXR 750 and the FZ09 and i gotta tell you the the GSXR to me was so much better. Granted the GSXR is more expensive..
Love the XSR 900 - do a Harley Davidson Roadster review?
you can turn up the brightness on the screen...
Nice review
I saw on the internet an automatic bike, what do you think of semi auto transmission ? have you tried one ? Honda F6B
Pascal Maertens It sounds like scooters. Bike is more fun with clutching
tnx Bryan. love your videos. especially the fjr stf because I ride an fjr 2010
"...my butt's not sore, my nuts are intact, so mission accomplished!". Priceless!
how about the new ninja zx6r
I bought one about a month ago. Love it except had to buy a Sargent seat. Stock one hurt my testicles bad. Too bad you live in FL
So hot and no hills. I'm in NE AL. Roads here could not be better for M/C riding. No traffic and weather good most of the year.
Why would you floor it in top gear at 30?
To gauge torque.
TwoWheelObsession Ok cool love the bike and the video. Is there any aftermarkert mods that would let the clutch engage sooner then it does???
it a simple fix with no tools...tighten this and loosen that, very very easy.
my main gripes about this bike arent the usual ones you hear about. my main beef with the fz09 in general is the quality of the clutch/transmission and the fuelling/throttle at low rpms. throttle on/off is absolutely abysmal on these bikes. yamaha threw on the cheap electronic throttle just as a selling point i feel, on top of them tuning it lean as all hell from the factory. a deadly combo (in the bad way)
Thought seriously about the fz 09 ended up with the Honda cb 1000 r naked...Think it a better all round bike...
Arkansas Motorcycle Rides I was bout to buy the CB1000R but too many people talk negatively about that bike, also non of the dealers around me has it, so probably something wrong with it
I researched the bike for months traced it back when it was only being sold in europe where it know as the hornet. Not one negative review i could find...the biggest gripe was the instrument cluster was hard to see...My advice if your interested in any bike do your own research and dont listen to the guy down the street...WE have three dealerships around the little rock area that have them in stock so their goes that theory if they dont have them they must be no good...
You are talking about a Yoshimura pipe, but isn't it an Akrapovic? Here in The Netherlands it is. Pricewise it doesn't make much difference. A great difference for me is the new ugly headlights. I liked the old better.
+BBFazer yoshimura here.
There is quickshifter, you don t need use clutch to up gears.
Uh, no. It's optional on the FZ09.
TwoWheelObsession it comes fitted with a quick shifter, not an option
not the FZ -- only the MT
Put it in A mode.. Downshift, and pop a frakkin wheeeeelie!! Ride it lke it´s supposed to be ridden! :P
Lol, when I saw the click to analyze, i thought, adobe premiere pro
Funny you end up buying this bike.....would not have picked it looking and listening to your review
Alan Jones, exactly!!! Tootle around, slow. Are you insane?
your quick-shifter is not engaged!!
Uh, that's because it didn't have one.
@@TwoWheelObsession Fair enough :) ... sorry about that!
For me, I pretty much would be plunking down the money on suspension parts even on the 2017. Rear shock is meh. Front forks are improved but still not on par with the engine/chassis capability. So depending on the parts, a shock can run 650-1100 and fork cartridges usually run just over 1,000 for this bike.
That puts the price over 10,500. Now it's kind of another ball game in terms of price category. For instance, a GSX-S1000 sits in the same price range as a FZ-09 with upgraded suspension, yet it carries about 30 more HP and 15 more torque with suspension that is solid and confidence inspiring right off the showroom.
If I didn't want to fiddle with the suspension, the new Z900 has been rated better so far by a few direct comparisons in feeling more stable, planted, and better balanced in OEM form. It's got a slight advantage in power-to-weight as well. Larger fuel capacity as well (3L more). Has ABS without all the other electronic nannies which most have said it simply does not need due to it's tractability, balance, and progressive power.
What else? I guess the GSX-750 also falls just beneath the FZ-09 while having nearly similar HP from factory but less torque. More revs required but some people find that sort of thing thrilling and engaging.
I tested the last FZ-09 and haven't tested the new one yet. I'm currently leaning toward the Z900 which I will test in a few weeks, as well as the tweaked GSX-S1000 (2017, revised ECU, power improvements with crankcase ventilation mods). FZ-09, Z900, GSX-S750 all have great gear ratios for all-round street use. The GSX-S1000 has track ratios which Suzuki was negligent in revising, but has piles of power to make up for it.
Darn... but you are full of complaints! Be realistic, man... the thing cost nothing!!
Gotta agree man I love mine.. got it 2 days ago and I’ve had a blast! Lol I can’t even find a complaint!
Lol I tell it like it is. Just because it’s cheap doesn’t mean that changes any faults. I should know, I bought it ;)
As you replied I was watching your ECU refresh... @@TwoWheelObsession
I can tell you all he liked it, cuz he bought it.. lol..