If they do that from orbit they are just going to launch themselves into space, though, unless they have some kind of super-massive platform to shoot from like the moon. Even then you'd have to assume some kind of additional superpower enabling them to aim under those conditions.
Exactly, wear heavy armour so you can get close, grab the nearest enemy and throw him onto the next one. Repeat until you run out of enemies. No worries about wear and tear on weapons.
Gintama does this... It happens pretty often, but Gintama Season 6 Ep 4 is pretty solid. "To a samurai, everything within his reach is a weapon." - quoting gin as he swings his "friend" around like a club
Problem is superman accelerates so quickly, you wonder if any armour made of a metal with strength as low as lead can sustain those insane G’s. But it need not be lead. You could also just carry around a thicc block of high strength graphene or anything with mass that you can use to shield radiation.
I’ll just chime in here and say, doesn’t Superman have some sort of tactile telekinesis? I’m no expert on how that works, but it *sounds* like it’d counter that inertia problem.
Super strength and durability could imply that we could use our fingers to minimize surface area, making fingerpunches incredibly effective. Call it the backup dagger of a superstrong and durable person. Combat sports like jiu jitsu, which favor grappling over striking, would be incredibly advantageus as well. You could simply squeeze and crumble people to death, although that would be gruesomely graphic.
Knife hand strikes that literally chop people in half. A tiger style practicioner whose fingernails are durable enough to cut like tigers claws. Khalimahing people's hearts out with a quick jab with the fingers straight.
If your strength is incredible high you can ignore your target and simply smash the ground, resulting in earthquakes and probably smashing the ground so hard that it will completely destroy the planet ripping it apart. Super strength gets completely out of hand if taken into the real world.
ThisNameIsBanned In order to have such an effect on the ground, not only do you need super durability and strenght, but also super weight. Without it you would simply just punch yourself up in the air.
There was a dude in an anime call The Get-Backers that did that. With his super strength, his combat tactic was to simply grab and squeeze people into submission.
My friend and I once talked about Spider-Man using a giant sword. With his agility, speed and strength. He could control it or ride the inertia. But more importantly, his sticking powers means he could find leverage wherever he stands. Also he could remove the handle and just hold the blade relying on his Spider-sense to not grab the edge.
You can grab a sword's edge, and I doubt It'd do much to him lol The Sword won't cut you if you don't make a "Cut" As in if you keep it still in your hand and don't do a cutting motion while holding it, you'll be fine :P
While nowhere as strong as Spiderman, perhaps not even stronger then a normal human, but Nightcrawler has often used a sword. But he is very dangerous due to his agility and ability to attack from unusual angles, he also has some level of wall crawling ability. While Spiderman might not have the teleportation, he would the rest of Nightcrawlers advantages to a even higher level.
@@lightningcat82 actually what sparked this debate was a recent issue of Spider-Man & Deadpool. Where DP and Nightcrawler were teaching Spidey swordplay to fight a hybrid clone called Itsy Bitsy.
Imagine Superman with a giant sword. Flight means he can make his own leverage, and most/all of the weapons that would work for dragon riders would work for him.
I mean... I don't know how deep his spider sticky hairs go. But probably not deep enough. it wouldn't make enough of a difference (when talking about really huge weapons). He'd be like a tree in a tornado when swinging a weapon like that around. Ripped from the ground. Probably with the ground still on his feet like a slipper XD
It's actually a topic raised in an old manga "Dragon Quest: the adventure of Dai". The hero at some point becomes so strong that he breaks the weapons he uses, and he has to find a great weaponsmith and a special metal in order to be able to fight full force again. I thought you might like to hear about it. (It's a very small part of the adventure which lasts 37 volumes but still)
So here we were, thinking Sauron and the Witch King had magical weapons, when really, they are just super strong and wearing very heavy armor and wielding very heavy weapons. Which is why Sauron can just blast enemies into the air with his mace, and the Witch King can break shields to pieces with a single swing of his flail xD
Great shout, I think the Witch King fighting Eowyn demonstrates Shad's point perfectly. You've probably seen the making of docs on the extended DVDs; the dude that played WK (think his name is Lawrence Makori . . . also played Lurtz and Gothmog. He basically made the films by himself) Was swinging it (albeit a foam rubber version) for real. Obviously some CG in post but I don't think you'd get that 'realism' without the practical element. If it was made today using just cg it would probably look ridiculous.
Some of the super strength issues like breaking things when trying to lift them could make for an interesting plot. Instead of the classic "I don't control my own strength" a super strong character could have full control over the strength but be ignorant to the ways it actually works(so maybe he would need a friend with lots of knowledge about physics that helps him apply his power efficiently). If someone tries to make a book out of it, I believe the friend should be called Shad
@@snakeoveer1046 He could get an intuitive sense, but if I was the one with super strength I would definitely go looking for an engineer to be by my side. Strength used in creative ways to solve complex problems
I want to see a fight scene with two people with super strength and durability fight with weapons that bend and break after like 2 hits against the opponent or environment. There would be an array of choices scattered about for them to use.
The "Eragon" universe would allow for a fight like that, since they specifically mention that the dragon riders are so powerful, that just hitting something with a normal sword (like a wall or other sword) would quickly dent or break the blade. But then they get magic, unbreakable blades and that topic is done forever, so unfortunately no cool sword-collection fight.
There's one weapon that they could definitely make use of: steel/depleted uranium etc spheres. Assuming you have super strength but not super-mass (but definitely super durability since you would basically just rip yourself apart otherwise), you basically just pitch a baseball made of a strong material. You're letting go of most of the momentum you generate except for the momentum of your arm and rotation of your body. You might fly forward and spin a bit but you could basically be a human tank gun/rail gun depending on your exact strength.
Given how rare enemies of your proportions are, and given how all humans are decedents of Pygmies, I interpreted the ridiculous weapons as them being sized for people several feet taller and about a few hundred pounds heavier. Literally, everyone in the DS universe is a giant except for you.
Come on, are we really going to act like dragons are realistic? Jeez, stay in the real world. On a side note, I think we should make swords from the core of a black hole instead ofadamantium.
At top-tier strength, when dedicated weapons are not capable of surviving prolonged, or even one-time use, improvised weapons come in play. Basically grab the largest piece of rock, or machinery you have around and hit your enemy with it. If you happen to be near a baobab, uproot it in one swift motion, use it as a club once or twice and discard in pieces.
ADHD's World literally brought Zabuza's Sword from Naruto and used it to destroy several objects as well as shooting it with several weapons and it didn't even dent, his video pretty much pooed all over this one.
100 kilos of armor, it doesn't matter what weapon the opponent has, they won't be able to hurt you. At this point, who cares what weapon you have? You can take your time and use what ever you feel like and there is nothing the enemy can do to stop you.
Love the video but you have a MAJOR misconception about how muscle fibers work Shad: Slow twitch fibers and fast twitch fibers aren't called slow or fast because they create fast or slow movements. They are to distinguish muscles fibers which produce low amounts of force for very long periods of time (slow twitch) or great amount of force for a short amount of time (fast twitch). Slow twitch fibers use oxygen to be very energy efficient, but cant produce massive amount of force at once. They are relatively weak, but have high endurance. Marathon runners for example have exeptionally good developed slow twitch fibers (yet they aren't running slow in any way) Fast twitch fibers need much less oxygen, and can produce much stronger contractions, resulting in more force output (which, depending on training, can result in both more speed AND strength). However, they fatigue very quickly, often depleting there energetic potential within seconds, before having to recover. Both powerlifters (strength) and Boxers (speed) train in a way to improve their fast twitch fibers. So, in regards to the biology of super strength, having enhanced slow twitch fibers WON'T make you super strong, it will give you super human endurance. Enhanced fast twitch fibers would give you both super strength AND super speed, and which one is more dominant depends on how well you brain is able to send signals to your motor units (bundled muscle fibers) quickly, and how many motor units it can access at once. Hope that helped clear things up a little bit, still like the video, just had to address it. Keep up the good work.
Thanks for clarifying! This is a good explanation! Hope Shad can make a follow-up video now lol. Basically, holding constant skill/technique (i.e., neurological ability to contract muscle groupings to produce a movement efficiently), someone who is stronger is always faster; the more force your muscles produce, the faster the limbs move, and the Laster the limbs move, the faster the weapon moves. This is why big strong dudes in HEMA are a damn nightmare to fight... They don't only hit harder, but their weapon also moves way faster, and they can use weapons with more mass and greater reach.
THANK YOU! I came here to post this but wanted to make sure someone did it already and here you two are. I wonder how the cross section between nerd topics such as fantasy and historical weapons and armor crosses with strength sports, competitive hand to hand and things like bodybuilding, haha. Muscle nerds unite!
koZmo .seVen I was going to comment about this but wanted to check, then I was going to say basically what you said, so I got beat to the punch....TWICE!!
@@walkerwhitmore1691 Noooo! That sucks so much, I’m sorry . I hate when that happens to me, it’s like, “well shit I’m useless here now, I’ll see myself out I guess”
I was considering it, but then I remembered the cassowaries. I guess emus would be the armed forces auxiliary, I think, since the Aussie army can't seem to beat them anyways.
Hmm....there's the real challenge: How do you make realistic weapons for god-like characters? Also Shad, now you know you gotta make this a spin-off of Fantasy Re-armed, called "Super Re-armed" where you talk about the best medieval weapons for certain super powers. XD
Realistic weapons for characters who are god-like in what ways? Immortal is god-like, so what powers? This is a discussion I would like to have, being a big D&D fan!
@@genobreaker1054 As in for characters who are able break the laws of physics, the flash's super speed, superman's strength, the majority of characters with teleportation and such. What things can be made of steel or other real life materials which would be able to have practical use for characters like these?
@@Dmobley9901 super speed, I would refer to to Shad's video on the best weapons for fairies. The point he made about fairies with razors being able to zip around past people's defenses to attack the gaps in armor, then get away before anyone can counter. Quicklings in D&D tend to use daggers, as an example. Super strength, I would say that another conversation I have had in this comment section has a point. Super heavy gauntlets, perhaps made of depleted uranium (modern day), or a combination of steel and lead (medieval), to increase the weight behind every punch. Spikes would help. Alternatively, I would say. Large club or mace, again, possibly spiked. Teleportation is an interesting power to consider a weapon for. I would probably say a bow. Being able to pepper your opponent and deny them the ability to close the distance. But melee, perhaps a spear? Keeping your opponent at a distance and harrying them from various angles.
@@genobreaker1054 Another idea would be "best weapons for super heroes" as a series, although, the issue with using fairies as an example, is that they have flight, speed and a very small body, there are multiple issues that actually come up with a human having super speed which I think would be interesting to see Shad talk about.
i love how you used dark souls pics, just started playing it again actually lol, thats a good point as well about the weight of the armor allows for a heavier weapon, however what about thrown weapons, if you have super strength and work on you hand eye coordination until you can nail a bullseye @ a km with super heavy thrown darts, or even a bow that only someone with super strength could bend (scorpion king/ game of thrones giant bow hybrid)
I love this video. It justifies one of my (as a DM) a super-strong Brownie's limitations (ally to the party). Brownies are tiny, by the way. He was super strong, about equal to a burly human fighter. He used a human-sized (normal) longsword. He had to specialize in his lower body mass being an issue, being more like the motor to the sword and having to use the economy of motion. He used his super strength to spring far and wide and had to spin and tumble when he missed in a martial arts recovery. Being super-strong does not mean you have the mass and leverage to not have other issues, great video Shadiversity.
Well, if you grabbed it by the barrel you might pull the turret off, but you could definitely pick it up using the frame, especially the parts that are designed to make it easier to pick up for loading and offloading them. It's just like towing a car.
Medically and mechanically, super strength can be regarded as having extra sarcomeres in parallel and super speed can be regarded as having extra sarcomeres in series.
I broke that sword while fighting volgagia in the fire temple. I refused to switch back to the master sword and finished the fight with my broken sword. It took forever.
Shad, that bit about some of the issues with weapon size came up in Utawarerumono. The character Karura is so strong that she cant use regular weapons as when she swings them she'll just break them as soon as they hit something. She once tried to get around this by basically taking two swords and staking them on top of each other, but even that wasn't enough. She eventually had to have a sword custom made for her strength. Problem was that in order to fit her requirements, the sword ended up so big and thick that it was more of a huge club with a sharpened edge than a sword. Additionally, it was so heavy that even the biggest and strongest warriors around could hardly lift the thing off its stand. Karura was the only one able to wield it.
@@Superbug-tf8zy Well, it was made specifically to NOT bend as per Karura's request, again something that came about mostly to offset her obscene strength.
@@Superbug-tf8zy I think you're still thinking of that as a "sword", meaning a thin, long sheet of metal. If it's just a longish hunk of metal, it's not just gonna bend like that. I mean a log is super heavy, too, but it doesn't just bend and break in half, unless you excessive force on a single point. And if we go with that much force, you'd not bend the thing, you'd just plunge your hand into the material instead.
This is why I think weapons are actually a hindrance when you have super strength. Making a weapon that doesn't break when you use it would be a huge and costly undertaking, and even it's inevitably going to break because repeated use would wear down on the weapon.
@@ashtongiertz8728 The price bit was actually mentioned in the work I brought up, and suffice to say, it was expensive enough to sting even in the coffers of a local king. And another thing that also came up was that the sword was later inherited by another character who also was strong enough to wield it. Problem is that said character lacks the mass to wield it as effectively as it's prior wielder, and as a result, the sword is swinging her around just as much as she is swinging it.
Hehe. Imagine yourself hitting a heavier object with super strength. You'd see yourself flying back to last Sunday~ 😂😂😂 That anchor by weight is brilliant. Another example like you (a super human) trying to open a vault door. It doesn't matter how strong you are, if you're not heavy enough to have traction or anything to hold on to have leverage... you'll only pull yourself towards the door.
always assumed that is the reason why the flash only is super fast but not super strong. because he lacks the "anchor" Superman for example has with his flight ability. So flash could only push himself incredibly strong.
assuming that both you and the object are made of a type of material that absorbs almost no shock. If you hit a lead wall with regular strength, you’ll break your hand from the shock. If you hit the same wall with super strength with a corresponding amount of shock tolerance, you’ll still break your arm, but you’ll also be doing more damage (or at least introducing more shock) to the lead wall.
Shad I think to some extent you are underestimating the strength of steel 100kg is 220 lbs most bar bells can hold that at the extreme ends with just a little flex. heck I've seen knives hold that weight on very small handles, I think a well designed, properly tempered blade could hold itself together with a wieght much more than 100kg.
Yeah, but a bar bell has weights at both ends of it. The problem with a really heavy sword is the pressure that it puts on the point where the blade ends and the tang begins. If you’re swinging a 220 lb bar of still which ends in a tang capable of being held by human hands (so excluding the Hulk hand scenario), the chances that repeated strikes will not put extreme pressure on that point are really low.
The sword, sure, but unless you're the Hulk and have much bigger hands, the handle of your sword will still have to be small enough your hands can encompass the handle; so the handle will not increase in capacity yet it needs to support much greater weight; you start swinging that around, that handle will start to bend and break.
The Farron Greatsword in Dark Souls 3 in conjunction with the dagger used to anchor oneself to a surface to allowing spinning with the sword's momentum without flying off is a good example of a more agile fighting style moving with the force of such a large weapon; like what you mentioned in your video.
Hey, just wanna point out that with any melee weapon, even fists, you don't want to stop when you hit the target, you want to try and go through the target with the attack. Say you're swinging a sword at someone trying to cut through their left arm with a horizontal strike, you want the sword to go as far as it can, even through their torso, not to just strike the arm. Or if you're punching someone in the nose, you don't aim for the nose, you aim for behind the nose, even the back of the skull(as my old sifu once said) so you can impart the maximum amount of force, you want to keep the acceleration as high as possible when you make contact. Bloody, top-notch video, dude
A great video once again shad. I believe that a great example of what yuou just said about huge swords and armors is the shardplates and the Shardblades in the Storm Light Archive series.
Revisiting this video after seeing your newer content... I can really see how much your recent surgeries have helped you out. Glad to see you doing so much better now, Shad.
Also at about 10:04 (edit: also at about 11:53, 13:57, 16:02, 18:05). I thought it was just the TH-cam player acting up before I read your comment. Not sure if I'm glad or disappointed that it wasn't a dickpic, like the end of fight club.
@@haarzuilensboy_0304 Good against criptonite But it will crumble fast and Superman will have to keep up with the cost. Not for everyday use. But hey Bruce can pay for him right?
For your next Fantasy Re-armed I'd like to see a vampire. I think the fact that they wouldn't necessarily want a lethal weapon and would probably have a more grappling focused fighting style and would want to get in close to give their opponents a good neck bite could make an interesting episode
- The best weapon for Hulk is a tank. - I'm pretty sure Hulk wouldn't be able to fit in a tank. - He doesn't need to. He'll just lift a tank and smash everything with it.
Heavy armor covered with hooked spikes. Then dual wield... In one hand, a heavy duty sword catcher with a pointed end so that it can thrust. And in the other hand, a very heavy club with a large spike at the end. Both weapons don't need to be that long, baseball bat length would be perfect for super quick movements. The armor or sword catcher would trap attacks then the club could strike... shattering them. Both weapons would do massive bludgeoning damage, you'd also be able to do thrusting with the point and with the spike you'd be able to hook opponents, spike shields and tear them away or puncture whatever needs a hole.
I feel like the way to go is to treat every item as disposable imagine it Runs up to tank then rips the tank barrel off with his bare hands slams the top of the tank with its own barrel then kicks the tank slideing it into a trench
"He can throw his punches at near the speed of light!" Pretty sure he can go several times faster than the speed of light to be honest. Comic book superheroes get pretty out there. Hulk also has super-speed though. Not as crazy-fast as Superman, but he can run at hundreds of miles per hour at the absolute minimum, and he's fought (and defeated) characters who, like Superman, go at or beyond the speed of light themselves, such as the Silver Surfer etc (also he can see ghosts). Pretty much every super-strong character in comics also possesses super-human speed, at least implicitly, based on their showings and on the type of opponents they get pitted against.
@Eric Cassil The duel between the mountain and the viper, the Viper asks the mountain if he knows who he is and then the Mountain says "some dead man" its the duel for Tyrion's Second trial by combat.
Swords tend to require skill to use, edge alignment and all that. Maces might be better for mindless golems when ordered to "go kill that." Intelligent constructs like warforged use what works best for humans, like spears and swords. And kite shields.
In my humble opinion, the best weapon for someone with super strength and not speed (assuming increased mass from both heavy armor and body destiny... I mean, density) would be a longer warhammer, sort of like a halberd, which I call a "Battlehammer", with a large head weighing about half the weight of the user (without armor). This head has one end dedicated to pure blunt force trauma, while the other side is a large, sturdy, triangular spike. This spike is sharpened on the inside edge, and works like a heavy, two-handed kama, in that it pierces and then pulls with a cutting edge, making a terrifying tool to rend flesh. There is also a razor-sharp spear point on the end, in line with the haft. The haft itself is probably either enchanted or made of fantasy wood, to support the massive forces surrounding the weapon. There is also a pommel on the other side, which can be used to strike in a pinch. What you're left with is a brutal fantasy weapon of mass destruction, capable of handling nearly any foe. Got a heavily armored opponent? Just batter him down with the maul end. A large creature (such as, well, a Dragon) charging you down? Use their momentum to your advantage, shove that foot-long spike deep in the chest of the monster, and let them run by as your battlehammer disembowels them with their own insignificant weight. Close quarters? Choke up the handle, and use the spear head, with light, fast jabs and slashes that bear a high amount of mass behind them. Let them raise their shields against you; bash them apart, or perhaps hook the spike around the top, pulling it down with gravity alone to thrust the spear point forward at your powerless enemy's exposed heart. And remember, the weight you can bring to bear to push around your enemies is second to none; knock them down, shove them aside, for they will NEVER move you.
If you had super strength couldnt you use a metal shaft for the polearm you describe to improve durability? Hell even a long heavy sword blade with a polearm like handle (if youve seen the corrupted monk in sekiro, the leverage when swinging the blade from a longer handle would allow for great slashing and thrusting potential) although with a swordspear-like setup the axis of rotation would be closer along the handle to the wielder than with an axe/hammer setup
One interesting thing they did in the Live-Action adaptation of Rurouni Kenshin is what they did with Sanosuke's sword; it was much wider in the comics, but they slimmed it down considerably. Also, even the comics took into account the thing you pointed out about the blade by having Sano explain that his sword really didn't have much of an edge anymore, but he could still use it to smash and crush. I love that movie for taking a middle road between the ridiculous level of athletics of the anime/manga and the limits of live-action.
Could you do An episode regarding the lizardmen and the Skaven? specifically their types of Shields and weapons. the Crescent shields and macuahuitl's of the lizardmen the perfect Triangular shields of the Skaven.
Based on your analysis, perhaps a super strong character might wish to give the spiked-weapons family a try. Ex: flails, morning stars. Or if they still want a bladed weapon that is still functional when it loses some of its edge, perhaps a battle axe? Maybe even an unconventional weapon, such as a pickaxe?
14:41 Anyone else had a voice in his head saying "It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. It was more like a large hunk of Iron."?
Was just icing on the cake that when they were talking about super heavy armor, they showed both the power armor of the Ultrasmurfs from 40k and Chaos from fantasy.
What about Spider-man? He can stick to walls with his feet as seen in Into the Spiderverse. He also has super strength. Wouldn’t the ability to climb up walls serve as an anchor for him if he uses a giant sword?
This discussion started up in Shad's problem with giant swords video. Ultimately it turned into a debate over whether or not Spider-man has enough durability to swing a giant sword without snapping his own tendons. Personally, I said yes, but a lot of people said his durability isn't that high.
@@HSuper_Lee he may be able to do it safely most of the time. but a little too much acceleration/ sudden deceleration or a wrong twist in some way, and he could seriously injure himself. I could see him pull it off as a one time, one hit type of thing tho.
Considering his strength feats in canon, I don't see why he couldn't. And considering his agility (and Spider Sense) he would be able to know when he would hurt himself and just spin with it. 🤷
For those with super-strength, huge slings for slinging boulder-sized shot. Turn them into walking trebuchets to breakup enemy frontline troop formations, and to bombard field fortifications, castle sieges. Heavy maces for close-quarter fighting.
Shad Fact: Shad has ridden on a supersonic jet. We calculated that while on the Jet he reached a speed of Mach 3. When we asked him about he said it was great fun but the pressure change in his ear was just awful.
+plasmaburndeath Thank god for you, I’ve been trying to figure out how to do that for four years. No-one would tell me how to do it, and TH-cam help is nonexistent.
A question to consider here alongside wearing heavy armour with super strength is the actual durability of your body. I was taking a trip to Ireland recently and I had to carry a heavy backpack around with me - and while I could carry it around with me without any issues, when I got to our destination and I looked at myself in the mirror I had huge black bruises on my shoulders because of the amount of weight pressing down on my skin had damaged the stuff underneath it. I'm sure the vast majority of people are also aware of the issues with lifting really heavy things with your hands - this results in blisters, skin getting worn off your fingers, bleeding and more nasty stuff. If you were identically the same as you are now but you decided to just lift a giant boulder above your head you would likely just dislocate your shoulders and injure your hands regardless of the actual strength of your muscles!
Super strength necessearly comes with the ability of the body to endure that strength. Incidentally, human skeletal muscle is capable of producing enough force to rip itself from its tendons, and even brake some smaller bones, and its only some inbuilt safeguards that keep is from doing this regularly.
I don't think having an edge would matter, all cutting is is applying enough pressure to overcome the tensile strength of molecules If you can hit that hard it may not matter if it doesn't have an edge
Read a fantasy book about a berserker who carried a huge blunt sword with no edge at all, but when he entered his berserker state, his strength increased so much that the blunt sword could still fell trees. I get ya.
@@genobreaker1054 That's literally Guts from Berserk. The Dragonslayer is much too large to be called a sword. It is far too thick, and heavy, and rough. Indeed it is more like a slab of raw iron. He even cuts right through stone pillars on several occasions.
@@josh-oo didn't say the idea was original, but I'm thinking of a Dungeons&Dragons book, don't remember the character's name though. In his berserker state, he can't tell friend from foe and is seeking a way to cure himself so he doesn't kill anyone (else) that he cares about.
Yep. Even with normal human strength, you could easily break through skin or metal with a hammer. An increase in strength and weight just multiplies that capacity.
On the subject of super strength and weapons being destroyed by the forces, I was expecting to hear you actually talk about the way a hammer resolves much of this conflict. By placing the mass at the end of a lever, be it something on the measure of a maul, or even as small as a single-handed mallet, something rather interesting happens. The shaft has very little mass, and therefore experiences very weak forces upon impact IF you do not continue to apply pressure through the strike. In practice, when using a weapon of such mass, this is the proper practice regardless of super strength because the energy of the hammer is already a multiple of the effort used to accelerate the head to that point, meaning any forced follow-through is a tiny fraction of additional energy transfer, and simply not worth the exertion involved. By this means, a solid mass with enough toughness to withstand the impact (achievable by simply making it very large) on the end of a lever is an ideal weapon for super strength. All you need do is accelerate it as hard as you can, and let the weight of the hammer carry that multiplied energy into the target. The only limitation at that point is a haft must be strong enough to both support the weight of the head and the forces of the initial acceleration. This is not as big of a problem as it might seem. An ordinary steel bar used for power lifting can hold over 400kg. If you placed just 100kg on one end of such a bar and had the strength to swing it at the same speed an average person can swing a 20lb sledge hammer, the forces would be almost incomprehensible by human standards.
What are you talking about? I've had hammers break on me all the time. They may not break on the first swing, but they will inevitably snap their handles. The real advantage hammers have is that a shaft is a lot easier and cheaper to replace than a custom made blade.
Ashton the hammers you use are either wooden or fiberglass handles. The doc is talking about a hard metal handle. It would probably break eventually but it would take a while.
One more point to consider is that if you have super strength, you can use a mace as though it were a sword, changing direction rapidly and avoiding the predictable attack patterns that come with a mace.
@@genobreaker1054 I was thinking about lead gauntlet I had when I was a kid. I, let's say, happened across the lead sheet, and made a gauntlet out of it. It was heavy, but it was soft, and had a tendency to deform, and was difficult to remove afterwards. Thinking of it again, this may not be a problem for a superman.
I came up with another real world weapon a character with super strength but not super speed can use, cannon balls, just throw them at people. If you can accelerate a cannon ball up to the same max speed you can thrown a tennis ball, think of the damage.
Marion Harmon is an author that uses some of your discussions (and addresses some of the issues) In his superhero novel series Wearing the Cape. Including the mass is armor. The hero Astra is described as a "Pixie" (maybe 4'11" - 5' and between 40-50 kilos). As an Atlas(superman) type she had access to an ability an Ajax(Hulk) type would not. Your own Missile. Which is the name the Author used to describe being able to fly without a visible means of propulsion. So as a permission she could anchor herself by flying "down" or "in place". In the second book she's given armor(100kg)(greaves with polyen, bracers, breastplate) and a short handled maul. (50kg) Which (given the description of her strength(see last paragraph)) she could swing as fast as her fist. But while she could easily swing her weapon without over balancing, he still gave her a fighting style where she would use the momentum of a missed swing to bring a knee in to strike. Which brings us to another facet you touched on. If something isn't anchored and is strong enough structurally to take the hit (and less inertia than the momentum striking it) it will be knocked in the direction of the strike. Which means the best way for characters with super strength to damage each other is through grapples and dirty fighting. (gouging, elbows, knees, pressure points, etc.) What blows my mind the most is seeing what the difference in weight would likely feel like to someone with even low (say 10 ton) super strength. An average(ish) person that weighed 100 kg and could press 75 kg that could suddenly press 10,000 kg would FEEL like he weighed 750 GRAMS. That's right about 5 baseballs or cricket balls. He didn't do as well researching vehicle weights as the number he gives for Astra's strength is off by about 15 tons from his description of her strength. Though, to be honest, I didn't know a city bus could range from 10 -20 tons and Tractor trailer 20-40 tons before I looked it up. The only weight I knew off hand was 60 tons for an Main Battle Tank from my time in the military.
Subbed because you have the ENTIRE Wheel of Time series in your bookcase. A seriously underrated series that definitely deserves a Netlix Series Adaptation! Seeing the Aes Sedai weave their magic with modern day CGI would certainly be a sight!
"That thing was too big to be called a sword. Too big, too thick, too heavy, and too rough, it was more like a large hunk of iron."
*Clang*
Oh you here?
Anime and manga sure love dem thicc swords.
Gut's dragonslayer.
that was quick
Just give em' a 20000 pound draw weight bow so they can fire mach 3 arrows that nuke cities from orbit.
Yeah, but I guess there is no Material to make a bis Out of, that would withstand thus force.
You just described EMIYA from FSN.....
@@TenkaiHimura give em a ballista that isn't stuck on the ground
If they do that from orbit they are just going to launch themselves into space, though, unless they have some kind of super-massive platform to shoot from like the moon. Even then you'd have to assume some kind of additional superpower enabling them to aim under those conditions.
So, something like the Piecemaker from Discworld?
Why not using the ennemy as a weapon... If it breaks, too bad, pick up another one.
Exactly, wear heavy armour so you can get close, grab the nearest enemy and throw him onto the next one. Repeat until you run out of enemies. No worries about wear and tear on weapons.
"Puny God."
You just described the combat mentality of Miyamoto Musashi ^^
Gintama does this... It happens pretty often, but Gintama Season 6 Ep 4 is pretty solid. "To a samurai, everything within his reach is a weapon." - quoting gin as he swings his "friend" around like a club
You could use a lasso get more reach
Idea!
Step 1: Wear very, very heavy armor
Step 2: Run in a straight line
armour titan intensifies
"I'm the juggernaut b!tch" *x-men theme*
Step 3: remember to go 'Cho-choo' every seven steps or so.
Juggernaut v2
Rhino, not Juggernaut, Juggernaut has a big metal helmet where as Rhino is in a suit of armor basically
I've always said superman should have made himself a huge suit of lead armour to counter the effects of kryptonite in combat
An armor made of lead on Superman would be neato.
The only issue with that idea is that he often moves fast enough that lead armor would probably be torn to shreds by its own inertia.
@@garethbaus5471 To say nothing of the fact that Lex Luthor's technology could easily destroy a lead suit.
Problem is superman accelerates so quickly, you wonder if any armour made of a metal with strength as low as lead can sustain those insane G’s.
But it need not be lead. You could also just carry around a thicc block of high strength graphene or anything with mass that you can use to shield radiation.
I’ll just chime in here and say, doesn’t Superman have some sort of tactile telekinesis? I’m no expert on how that works, but it *sounds* like it’d counter that inertia problem.
Super strength and durability could imply that we could use our fingers to minimize surface area, making fingerpunches incredibly effective. Call it the backup dagger of a superstrong and durable person. Combat sports like jiu jitsu, which favor grappling over striking, would be incredibly advantageus as well. You could simply squeeze and crumble people to death, although that would be gruesomely graphic.
Knife hand strikes that literally chop people in half.
A tiger style practicioner whose fingernails are durable enough to cut like tigers claws.
Khalimahing people's hearts out with a quick jab with the fingers straight.
Poking someone on facebook would take on a whole new meaning
If your strength is incredible high you can ignore your target and simply smash the ground, resulting in earthquakes and probably smashing the ground so hard that it will completely destroy the planet ripping it apart.
Super strength gets completely out of hand if taken into the real world.
ThisNameIsBanned In order to have such an effect on the ground, not only do you need super durability and strenght, but also super weight. Without it you would simply just punch yourself up in the air.
There was a dude in an anime call The Get-Backers that did that. With his super strength, his combat tactic was to simply grab and squeeze people into submission.
The thumbnail is Shad once he takes his coat off.
Didn't know he is from Iceland.
Did not know he was a yakuza boss fight
The hair line is the same even
Daddy Chad
Dakota Dixon indeed
My friend and I once talked about Spider-Man using a giant sword. With his agility, speed and strength. He could control it or ride the inertia. But more importantly, his sticking powers means he could find leverage wherever he stands. Also he could remove the handle and just hold the blade relying on his Spider-sense to not grab the edge.
You can grab a sword's edge, and I doubt It'd do much to him lol
The Sword won't cut you if you don't make a "Cut"
As in if you keep it still in your hand and don't do a cutting motion while holding it, you'll be fine :P
While nowhere as strong as Spiderman, perhaps not even stronger then a normal human, but Nightcrawler has often used a sword. But he is very dangerous due to his agility and ability to attack from unusual angles, he also has some level of wall crawling ability. While Spiderman might not have the teleportation, he would the rest of Nightcrawlers advantages to a even higher level.
@@lightningcat82 actually what sparked this debate was a recent issue of Spider-Man & Deadpool. Where DP and Nightcrawler were teaching Spidey swordplay to fight a hybrid clone called Itsy Bitsy.
Imagine Superman with a giant sword. Flight means he can make his own leverage, and most/all of the weapons that would work for dragon riders would work for him.
I mean... I don't know how deep his spider sticky hairs go. But probably not deep enough. it wouldn't make enough of a difference (when talking about really huge weapons). He'd be like a tree in a tornado when swinging a weapon like that around. Ripped from the ground. Probably with the ground still on his feet like a slipper XD
Dark Souls: Accidentally realistic.
I don't remember asylum demons ever being real
@@buildawall5803 the real realism was the depression we got along the way
Yeah almost realistic until the deprived player comes at you with a dragon's tooth.
Ringed Knight Twin Greatswords
Me(Early DS): This isn't realistic.
[Abun of medieval research later]
Me: Now I know why bow shit for damage.
It's actually a topic raised in an old manga "Dragon Quest: the adventure of Dai". The hero at some point becomes so strong that he breaks the weapons he uses, and he has to find a great weaponsmith and a special metal in order to be able to fight full force again. I thought you might like to hear about it. (It's a very small part of the adventure which lasts 37 volumes but still)
HOW IN GODS GREEN EARTH IS 37 VOLUMES SHORT IN ANY CAPACITY OF THE WORD
Rev the scatman the part about him finding a sword he can swing is the short part, not the overall story lol
One word, Tungsten
SMALL PART??????
So here we were, thinking Sauron and the Witch King had magical weapons, when really, they are just super strong and wearing very heavy armor and wielding very heavy weapons. Which is why Sauron can just blast enemies into the air with his mace, and the Witch King can break shields to pieces with a single swing of his flail xD
The Witch King must be wearing very, very heavy robes to anchor himself properly. ;-)
Reading this made me think of a character wearing armor like a tank, swinging around what was essentially a large ship's anchor as a "flail"...
@@genobreaker1054 That's actually pretty boss.
It is not so much that hey had magical weapons, as they themselves were magical.
Great shout, I think the Witch King fighting Eowyn demonstrates Shad's point perfectly. You've probably seen the making of docs on the extended DVDs; the dude that played WK (think his name is Lawrence Makori . . . also played Lurtz and Gothmog. He basically made the films by himself) Was swinging it (albeit a foam rubber version) for real. Obviously some CG in post but I don't think you'd get that 'realism' without the practical element. If it was made today using just cg it would probably look ridiculous.
Some of the super strength issues like breaking things when trying to lift them could make for an interesting plot. Instead of the classic "I don't control my own strength" a super strong character could have full control over the strength but be ignorant to the ways it actually works(so maybe he would need a friend with lots of knowledge about physics that helps him apply his power efficiently). If someone tries to make a book out of it, I believe the friend should be called Shad
Make this a thing now I would love it
Wouldn t he just figure it out?
@@snakeoveer1046 He could get an intuitive sense, but if I was the one with super strength I would definitely go looking for an engineer to be by my side. Strength used in creative ways to solve complex problems
Look up Saitama vs asteroid
Super cool idea!!! Could be both intresting and humoristic at the same time!
I want to see a fight scene with two people with super strength and durability fight with weapons that bend and break after like 2 hits against the opponent or environment. There would be an array of choices scattered about for them to use.
orinplays I’m getting a Fate-UBW flashback here... weapon breaks? Just grab/summon another!
The "Eragon" universe would allow for a fight like that, since they specifically mention that the dragon riders are so powerful, that just hitting something with a normal sword (like a wall or other sword) would quickly dent or break the blade.
But then they get magic, unbreakable blades and that topic is done forever, so unfortunately no cool sword-collection fight.
There's one weapon that they could definitely make use of: steel/depleted uranium etc spheres. Assuming you have super strength but not super-mass (but definitely super durability since you would basically just rip yourself apart otherwise), you basically just pitch a baseball made of a strong material. You're letting go of most of the momentum you generate except for the momentum of your arm and rotation of your body. You might fly forward and spin a bit but you could basically be a human tank gun/rail gun depending on your exact strength.
And once you run out of your metal ammunition, nothing stops you from picking up stones or heaps of pebbles and continuing to be effective.
Boulder would be best. Throw boulder, Smash with boulder. Or if by body of water, throw boulder into water so hard it makes a tidal wave.
I think you're the coolest guy I've ever met in the comment section.
take my like and go have a nice day.
A year later hes still the coolest guy
Two years later. Still haven't changed my mind. Boulder 🪨
You mean, the universal ranged weapon (the stone), but bigger?
Yes.
Now, what's the best weapon for fighting emus?
Oh, wait. I probably shouldn't ask an Australian...
We should be the experts but considering how badly we lost, yeah. . . not the best ones to ask, lol
best weapon for any ocation if you dont care for colatiral damage black hole bomb a bomb that makes a black hole
@@8vantor8 so, the Gravity Cannon from Zoids Guardian Force.
Underrated comment
I don’t know what weapons the third emu war will be fraught with but the fourth will be fought with sticks and stones.
I always find these fantasy re-armed videos in particular very interesting.
As far as clubs go, at least it'd be able to heal itself.
I love how dark souls is THE reference when it comes to medieval over-sized fantasy weapons (and armor) :P
Antoine Baudon So many i think he was trying to sate us souls-born fans who keep asking him to talk about the weapons and armor in that game.
Monster Hunter would like to weigh in on this.
Because Berserk references
@@magnolia549 they arent even bad, i always stomp invaders, 1v1? 2v1? idgaf boi
Given how rare enemies of your proportions are, and given how all humans are decedents of Pygmies, I interpreted the ridiculous weapons as them being sized for people several feet taller and about a few hundred pounds heavier. Literally, everyone in the DS universe is a giant except for you.
Clubby sword? Clord. Or.... SLUB!
Swub?
big smacky swordy sword
So... Adamantium Clubby Swords with detachable pommels, so you can end them rightly? Just 1 question though, what about dragons?
_"Just 1 question though, what about dragons?"_
Yes, if you are strong enough, you can use a dragon as a weapon.
@@1FatLittleMonkey *sees enemy* *meaty thwach* "done"
He did a video on what weapons to use if ones riding a dragon I believe! But not what weapon the dragon would use itself I think pfft.
Come on, are we really going to act like dragons are realistic? Jeez, stay in the real world.
On a side note, I think we should make swords from the core of a black hole instead ofadamantium.
*Y E S*
I saw the thumbnail and thought,
'Hmm. Looks like Shad's been working out over Christmas!'
Working out on his photoshop skills you mean.
At top-tier strength, when dedicated weapons are not capable of surviving prolonged, or even one-time use, improvised weapons come in play. Basically grab the largest piece of rock, or machinery you have around and hit your enemy with it. If you happen to be near a baobab, uproot it in one swift motion, use it as a club once or twice and discard in pieces.
Or hit them with the pieces.
Or just pummel them, that is what Beowulf did anyways
Had to google what that even was. Cheers mate for making me learn something today. Were done here, i can go home early.
ADHD's World literally brought Zabuza's Sword from Naruto and used it to destroy several objects as well as shooting it with several weapons and it didn't even dent, his video pretty much pooed all over this one.
The scene in Pacific Rim when they use a freight ship as a club!
Giant Dad was right, heavy armor really is the way to go.
GIANTS
GIANTS
GIANTS
BECOME
U N S T O P P A B L E
Lightly armored means light on your feet. Smart.
The Legend never dies
100 kilos of armor, it doesn't matter what weapon the opponent has, they won't be able to hurt you. At this point, who cares what weapon you have? You can take your time and use what ever you feel like and there is nothing the enemy can do to stop you.
Smoughs armor and Daedric armor ftw
I'm just imagining someone with super strength having a Spartan shield. That shield bash/punch would be absolutely devastating!
Kratos
Love the video but you have a MAJOR misconception about how muscle fibers work Shad:
Slow twitch fibers and fast twitch fibers aren't called slow or fast because they create fast or slow movements. They are to distinguish muscles fibers which produce low amounts of force for very long periods of time (slow twitch) or great amount of force for a short amount of time (fast twitch). Slow twitch fibers use oxygen to be very energy efficient, but cant produce massive amount of force at once. They are relatively weak, but have high endurance. Marathon runners for example have exeptionally good developed slow twitch fibers (yet they aren't running slow in any way)
Fast twitch fibers need much less oxygen, and can produce much stronger contractions, resulting in more force output (which, depending on training, can result in both more speed AND strength). However, they fatigue very quickly, often depleting there energetic potential within seconds, before having to recover. Both powerlifters (strength) and Boxers (speed) train in a way to improve their fast twitch fibers.
So, in regards to the biology of super strength, having enhanced slow twitch fibers WON'T make you super strong, it will give you super human endurance. Enhanced fast twitch fibers would give you both super strength AND super speed, and which one is more dominant depends on how well you brain is able to send signals to your motor units (bundled muscle fibers) quickly, and how many motor units it can access at once.
Hope that helped clear things up a little bit, still like the video, just had to address it.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for clarifying! This is a good explanation! Hope Shad can make a follow-up video now lol.
Basically, holding constant skill/technique (i.e., neurological ability to contract muscle groupings to produce a movement efficiently), someone who is stronger is always faster; the more force your muscles produce, the faster the limbs move, and the Laster the limbs move, the faster the weapon moves. This is why big strong dudes in HEMA are a damn nightmare to fight... They don't only hit harder, but their weapon also moves way faster, and they can use weapons with more mass and greater reach.
THANK YOU! I came here to post this but wanted to make sure someone did it already and here you two are. I wonder how the cross section between nerd topics such as fantasy and historical weapons and armor crosses with strength sports, competitive hand to hand and things like bodybuilding, haha.
Muscle nerds unite!
Hope he sees this!
koZmo .seVen I was going to comment about this but wanted to check, then I was going to say basically what you said, so I got beat to the punch....TWICE!!
@@walkerwhitmore1691
Noooo! That sucks so much, I’m sorry . I hate when that happens to me, it’s like, “well shit I’m useless here now, I’ll see myself out I guess”
I don't think this Clubby Sword could be called an actual sword. It's too big, too thick, too heavy. It's more like...
A slab of iron
Too long*
Slick reference lol
To slay a thicc boi you must first be the thicc boi.
It'd just be a wedge on a stick.
Shad: "Just keep Spinning like a helicopter of death!"
Garen: *Demacia Intensifies*
FANTASY RE-ARMED: Best weapons for Shad and other crazy Australians!
hes only armed with wits. also swords
snake rifles!
Snake rifles, spider shotguns, cassawary hunting packs, kangaroo mounts, saltwater crocodile skin armor.
@@Zachomara and what about emus?
I was considering it, but then I remembered the cassowaries. I guess emus would be the armed forces auxiliary, I think, since the Aussie army can't seem to beat them anyways.
6:01 Havel The Rock. Beautiful reference and a really sad story.
20:00 so use the goblin slayer stratagem then hit someone with a weapon, it breaks, pick up their weapon hit the next person.
7:17
We saw that
We all saw that
You can't hide Shad
Plot twist: That was Shad cosplaying.
@@Vlad_Tepes_III Double Plot twist: That was the real Shad. The Shad we know is an act.
im now wondering if people know where that clip is from, (i do btw)
@@Anonimus-nb8rr Wheeeeeere? 🤔🤔🤔
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Hmm....there's the real challenge: How do you make realistic weapons for god-like characters?
Also Shad, now you know you gotta make this a spin-off of Fantasy Re-armed, called "Super Re-armed" where you talk about the best medieval weapons for certain super powers. XD
Realistic weapons for characters who are god-like in what ways? Immortal is god-like, so what powers? This is a discussion I would like to have, being a big D&D fan!
@@genobreaker1054 As in for characters who are able break the laws of physics, the flash's super speed, superman's strength, the majority of characters with teleportation and such. What things can be made of steel or other real life materials which would be able to have practical use for characters like these?
@@Dmobley9901 super speed, I would refer to to Shad's video on the best weapons for fairies. The point he made about fairies with razors being able to zip around past people's defenses to attack the gaps in armor, then get away before anyone can counter. Quicklings in D&D tend to use daggers, as an example.
Super strength, I would say that another conversation I have had in this comment section has a point. Super heavy gauntlets, perhaps made of depleted uranium (modern day), or a combination of steel and lead (medieval), to increase the weight behind every punch. Spikes would help. Alternatively, I would say. Large club or mace, again, possibly spiked.
Teleportation is an interesting power to consider a weapon for. I would probably say a bow. Being able to pepper your opponent and deny them the ability to close the distance. But melee, perhaps a spear? Keeping your opponent at a distance and harrying them from various angles.
@@genobreaker1054 Another idea would be "best weapons for super heroes" as a series, although, the issue with using fairies as an example, is that they have flight, speed and a very small body, there are multiple issues that actually come up with a human having super speed which I think would be interesting to see Shad talk about.
Or even better , super powers for fantasy creatures,i always thought laser vision would be perfect for a cyclop or a dullahan
I love this channel.
Stuff like thinking about this is just so nice and interesting
And I love the community thinking along with vids like these
i love how you used dark souls pics, just started playing it again actually lol, thats a good point as well about the weight of the armor allows for a heavier weapon, however what about thrown weapons, if you have super strength and work on you hand eye coordination until you can nail a bullseye @ a km with super heavy thrown darts, or even a bow that only someone with super strength could bend (scorpion king/ game of thrones giant bow hybrid)
I love this video. It justifies one of my (as a DM) a super-strong Brownie's limitations (ally to the party). Brownies are tiny, by the way. He was super strong, about equal to a burly human fighter. He used a human-sized (normal) longsword. He had to specialize in his lower body mass being an issue, being more like the motor to the sword and having to use the economy of motion. He used his super strength to spring far and wide and had to spin and tumble when he missed in a martial arts recovery. Being super-strong does not mean you have the mass and leverage to not have other issues, great video Shadiversity.
Hulk knows the answer: hit tank with tank.
Disappointed Hulk 2003 wasn't walking around with a tank. :(
Also disappointed Butcher from Diablo wasn't running around with a giant meat cleaver.
If you destroy weapons when you use them, USE THE ENEMY AS A WEAPON.
_"hit tank with tank."_
Technically, it's "smash..."
Someone needs to tell these comic book goons that you can't pick up a tank by its turret, or any part thereof.
Well, if you grabbed it by the barrel you might pull the turret off, but you could definitely pick it up using the frame, especially the parts that are designed to make it easier to pick up for loading and offloading them. It's just like towing a car.
Make the weapon whatever size you want...
So long as you can end 'im rightly with it. :D
Why bring a weapon at all, just carry a pack of pommels
And i was wonderin` why Skall dreads this meme so much...
@SuperSimba6 or a single gigantic pommel !!! XD
Sending a small pommel towards an enemy's head would kill them
hell yes brother
Medically and mechanically, super strength can be regarded as having extra sarcomeres in parallel and super speed can be regarded as having extra sarcomeres in series.
yeah well krog sees strength as smashing boulder and speed as clubbing saber tooth before it runs away
Imagine a weapon that is just a chainmail bag of pommels on a long chain rope.
That is a war crime waiting to happen if the bag rips. You will end the whole block rightly.
Soo... an Iron ball sack?
@@noahwolff5455 I...
uh...
Well... I guess? XD
14:58
It was too thick, too long, and too wide to be a sword. Really, it was more like a sharp hunk of iron
I don't think they ever said it was sharp. Hell i think they clarified it does not cut in a traditional sense.
More of FANTASY RE-ARMED: my favourite series on YT.
So that's why the giant sword in ocarina of time breaks so easily!!!! DDDD: *MIND BLOWN*
Mother of God......
*MInd also Blown*
It's also because the skills of the Goron you buy it from pales in comparison to the skills of his brother, who makes the Biggoron Sword.
I broke that sword while fighting volgagia in the fire temple. I refused to switch back to the master sword and finished the fight with my broken sword. It took forever.
But what about dragons?
glass of water
With super strength? Go King Kong on it and pry its mouth apart and break it.
He did consider dragons. We need a sword which is too large to be a sword. DragonSlayer
what is it, dragons?
Nice
Imagine a dragon using a sword, imagine that.
At the super-superstrength levels you'd use normal-material weapons to lower the lethality of combat.
No. Its just avoiding overkill.
Shad, that bit about some of the issues with weapon size came up in Utawarerumono. The character Karura is so strong that she cant use regular weapons as when she swings them she'll just break them as soon as they hit something. She once tried to get around this by basically taking two swords and staking them on top of each other, but even that wasn't enough.
She eventually had to have a sword custom made for her strength. Problem was that in order to fit her requirements, the sword ended up so big and thick that it was more of a huge club with a sharpened edge than a sword. Additionally, it was so heavy that even the biggest and strongest warriors around could hardly lift the thing off its stand. Karura was the only one able to wield it.
Wouldn't it be so heavy at one point that the sword with bend itself when lifted?
@@Superbug-tf8zy Well, it was made specifically to NOT bend as per Karura's request, again something that came about mostly to offset her obscene strength.
@@Superbug-tf8zy I think you're still thinking of that as a "sword", meaning a thin, long sheet of metal.
If it's just a longish hunk of metal, it's not just gonna bend like that.
I mean a log is super heavy, too, but it doesn't just bend and break in half, unless you excessive force on a single point. And if we go with that much force, you'd not bend the thing, you'd just plunge your hand into the material instead.
This is why I think weapons are actually a hindrance when you have super strength. Making a weapon that doesn't break when you use it would be a huge and costly undertaking, and even it's inevitably going to break because repeated use would wear down on the weapon.
@@ashtongiertz8728 The price bit was actually mentioned in the work I brought up, and suffice to say, it was expensive enough to sting even in the coffers of a local king.
And another thing that also came up was that the sword was later inherited by another character who also was strong enough to wield it. Problem is that said character lacks the mass to wield it as effectively as it's prior wielder, and as a result, the sword is swinging her around just as much as she is swinging it.
Hehe. Imagine yourself hitting a heavier object with super strength. You'd see yourself flying back to last Sunday~ 😂😂😂
That anchor by weight is brilliant. Another example like you (a super human) trying to open a vault door. It doesn't matter how strong you are, if you're not heavy enough to have traction or anything to hold on to have leverage... you'll only pull yourself towards the door.
When Chuck Norris does pushups he isn't pushing himself up, he is pushing the Earth down!
*unless you anchor your self on the vault door and rip it to ribbons*
always assumed that is the reason why the flash only is super fast but not super strong. because he lacks the "anchor" Superman for example has with his flight ability. So flash could only push himself incredibly strong.
assuming that both you and the object are made of a type of material that absorbs almost no shock.
If you hit a lead wall with regular strength, you’ll break your hand from the shock. If you hit the same wall with super strength with a corresponding amount of shock tolerance, you’ll still break your arm, but you’ll also be doing more damage (or at least introducing more shock) to the lead wall.
Best weapon for someone with super strength... something that won't break when you hit something with it.
Shad I think to some extent you are underestimating the strength of steel 100kg is 220 lbs most bar bells can hold that at the extreme ends with just a little flex. heck I've seen knives hold that weight on very small handles, I think a well designed, properly tempered blade could hold itself together with a wieght much more than 100kg.
Yeah, steel wouldn't likely snap easily, but the blade edge would probably need to be made of tungsten carbide to retain any level of sharpness
Yeah, but a bar bell has weights at both ends of it. The problem with a really heavy sword is the pressure that it puts on the point where the blade ends and the tang begins. If you’re swinging a 220 lb bar of still which ends in a tang capable of being held by human hands (so excluding the Hulk hand scenario), the chances that repeated strikes will not put extreme pressure on that point are really low.
the problem is when you accelerate it and then quickly change direction of the strike. or hit something that stops the movement.
The sword, sure, but unless you're the Hulk and have much bigger hands, the handle of your sword will still have to be small enough your hands can encompass the handle; so the handle will not increase in capacity yet it needs to support much greater weight; you start swinging that around, that handle will start to bend and break.
Use the Tungsten pole from project Thor. As a spear.
That could be good candidate in this case.
The Farron Greatsword in Dark Souls 3 in conjunction with the dagger used to anchor oneself to a surface to allowing spinning with the sword's momentum without flying off is a good example of a more agile fighting style moving with the force of such a large weapon; like what you mentioned in your video.
And then there's the Ringed Knight Paired Greatswords xD
Hey, just wanna point out that with any melee weapon, even fists, you don't want to stop when you hit the target, you want to try and go through the target with the attack. Say you're swinging a sword at someone trying to cut through their left arm with a horizontal strike, you want the sword to go as far as it can, even through their torso, not to just strike the arm. Or if you're punching someone in the nose, you don't aim for the nose, you aim for behind the nose, even the back of the skull(as my old sifu once said) so you can impart the maximum amount of force, you want to keep the acceleration as high as possible when you make contact. Bloody, top-notch video, dude
The Clubby Sword shall hence forth be known as a Shadsword.
Store it in a Shabbard!
Geno Breaker I agree with you a Shadhundred%.
Shword*
Note to self: " don't forget to bring my clubby sword on next Friday's trip to the pub! "
LamMetje #clubbysword
So, are you going clubbing then?
Or would it be pubbing?
A great video once again shad.
I believe that a great example of what yuou just said about huge swords and armors is the shardplates and the Shardblades in the Storm Light Archive series.
Revisiting this video after seeing your newer content... I can really see how much your recent surgeries have helped you out. Glad to see you doing so much better now, Shad.
Your comments near the end about structural integrity are the basis behind why Giant Robos probably won't ever exist
As a long time strength and conditioning coach, Shad really, REALLY knows what he is talking about.
There is a single frame at 8:01 where the video blinks, if you pause and advance the video frame by frame you'll see a Shadiversity logo. Cool.
Zachary Bowman It happens at 1:34 as well.
@@Wo0zy23 i didn't notice that one, nice catch.
Also at about 10:04 (edit: also at about 11:53, 13:57, 16:02, 18:05). I thought it was just the TH-cam player acting up before I read your comment.
Not sure if I'm glad or disappointed that it wasn't a dickpic, like the end of fight club.
it also happen for a split frame between 10:04 and 10:05
Is a subliminal message so people give a like and subscribe
The superman movies would be So Much better if he wears big heavy armor and big medieval weapons
No normal material would be useful on him though
mortaché de muerte if his armor is 300 cm thick the criptonite can’t reach his body
@@haarzuilensboy_0304 Good against criptonite But it will crumble fast and Superman will have to keep up with the cost.
Not for everyday use.
But hey Bruce can pay for him right?
Ruampol Phaobanchong humanity can keep up whit the cost, I mean if he saves countless lives every day we can keep his giant suit of armor intact
@@haarzuilensboy_0304 Send Bill to Bruce Wayne.
Now this is education
For your next Fantasy Re-armed I'd like to see a vampire. I think the fact that they wouldn't necessarily want a lethal weapon and would probably have a more grappling focused fighting style and would want to get in close to give their opponents a good neck bite could make an interesting episode
- The best weapon for Hulk is a tank.
- I'm pretty sure Hulk wouldn't be able to fit in a tank.
- He doesn't need to. He'll just lift a tank and smash everything with it.
Heavy armor covered with hooked spikes. Then dual wield... In one hand, a heavy duty sword catcher with a pointed end so that it can thrust. And in the other hand, a very heavy club with a large spike at the end. Both weapons don't need to be that long, baseball bat length would be perfect for super quick movements. The armor or sword catcher would trap attacks then the club could strike... shattering them. Both weapons would do massive bludgeoning damage, you'd also be able to do thrusting with the point and with the spike you'd be able to hook opponents, spike shields and tear them away or puncture whatever needs a hole.
I feel like the way to go is to treat every item as disposable imagine it
Runs up to tank then rips the tank barrel off with his bare hands slams the top of the tank with its own barrel then kicks the tank slideing it into a trench
Ha! Once you said "super heavy armor" I thought SPACE MARINES and then 7:27 Tadaaa!
SPESS MEHERINES! WE ARE SPESS MEHERINES! OUR ENEMIES *DIE!*
Came from Jazza's channel, and got hooked... This is about video number 20 in two days...
*Subscribed*
8:11 to 8:14. Liked the video right there for the Simpsons reference. 😁
I see a Space Marine, I like the video
"He can throw his punches at near the speed of light!"
Pretty sure he can go several times faster than the speed of light to be honest.
Comic book superheroes get pretty out there.
Hulk also has super-speed though. Not as crazy-fast as Superman, but he can run at hundreds of miles per hour at the absolute minimum, and he's fought (and defeated) characters who, like Superman, go at or beyond the speed of light themselves, such as the Silver Surfer etc (also he can see ghosts).
Pretty much every super-strong character in comics also possesses super-human speed, at least implicitly, based on their showings and on the type of opponents they get pitted against.
It feels like I'm wearing nothing at all..nothing at all...nothing at all.
I know it's 100% off topic but I can't help myself, that dragon statue is GORGEOUS.
Shadiversity: "Do you know who I am?"
The Mountain: "Some Dead Man!"
@Eric Cassil The Mountain is literally on the thumbnail...
@Eric Cassil The duel between the mountain and the viper, the Viper asks the mountain if he knows who he is and then the Mountain says "some dead man" its the duel for Tyrion's Second trial by combat.
Please, could you make best weapons for constructs(warforged, golems, etc) next?
JP Olivetree big swords
Well in my opinion they wouldn't really use weapons since they would have them built in.
Veetu Heiskanen the weapons would still be there.
Swords tend to require skill to use, edge alignment and all that. Maces might be better for mindless golems when ordered to "go kill that." Intelligent constructs like warforged use what works best for humans, like spears and swords. And kite shields.
Geno Breaker very true. Now a question to think of is if they can alter their body to make different weapons and if so to what extent
this video makes me think of Hulk in a Tungsten suit of Plate Armor....
thank you for that
In my humble opinion, the best weapon for someone with super strength and not speed (assuming increased mass from both heavy armor and body destiny... I mean, density) would be a longer warhammer, sort of like a halberd, which I call a "Battlehammer", with a large head weighing about half the weight of the user (without armor). This head has one end dedicated to pure blunt force trauma, while the other side is a large, sturdy, triangular spike. This spike is sharpened on the inside edge, and works like a heavy, two-handed kama, in that it pierces and then pulls with a cutting edge, making a terrifying tool to rend flesh. There is also a razor-sharp spear point on the end, in line with the haft. The haft itself is probably either enchanted or made of fantasy wood, to support the massive forces surrounding the weapon. There is also a pommel on the other side, which can be used to strike in a pinch. What you're left with is a brutal fantasy weapon of mass destruction, capable of handling nearly any foe. Got a heavily armored opponent? Just batter him down with the maul end. A large creature (such as, well, a Dragon) charging you down? Use their momentum to your advantage, shove that foot-long spike deep in the chest of the monster, and let them run by as your battlehammer disembowels them with their own insignificant weight. Close quarters? Choke up the handle, and use the spear head, with light, fast jabs and slashes that bear a high amount of mass behind them. Let them raise their shields against you; bash them apart, or perhaps hook the spike around the top, pulling it down with gravity alone to thrust the spear point forward at your powerless enemy's exposed heart. And remember, the weight you can bring to bear to push around your enemies is second to none; knock them down, shove them aside, for they will NEVER move you.
If you had super strength couldnt you use a metal shaft for the polearm you describe to improve durability? Hell even a long heavy sword blade with a polearm like handle (if youve seen the corrupted monk in sekiro, the leverage when swinging the blade from a longer handle would allow for great slashing and thrusting potential) although with a swordspear-like setup the axis of rotation would be closer along the handle to the wielder than with an axe/hammer setup
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One interesting thing they did in the Live-Action adaptation of Rurouni Kenshin is what they did with Sanosuke's sword; it was much wider in the comics, but they slimmed it down considerably. Also, even the comics took into account the thing you pointed out about the blade by having Sano explain that his sword really didn't have much of an edge anymore, but he could still use it to smash and crush. I love that movie for taking a middle road between the ridiculous level of athletics of the anime/manga and the limits of live-action.
All of the Dark Souls snd 40k images made my day lol
Could you do An episode regarding the lizardmen and the Skaven?
specifically their types of Shields and weapons.
the Crescent shields and macuahuitl's of the lizardmen
the perfect Triangular shields of the Skaven.
where would be a good place to make video suggestions? would I have to pay via Patreon?
Based on your analysis, perhaps a super strong character might wish to give the spiked-weapons family a try.
Ex: flails, morning stars. Or if they still want a bladed weapon that is still functional when it loses some of its edge, perhaps a battle axe?
Maybe even an unconventional weapon, such as a pickaxe?
Love the Crimson Fists pic
I love when he is talking about heavy stuff its just pictures of the hulk and my big stoned friend havel from the dark souls series.
14:41
Anyone else had a voice in his head saying "It was too big to be called a sword. Massive, thick, heavy, and far too rough. It was more like a large hunk of Iron."?
would love a warhammer (the setting) video type or kind,
I agree. Also 40k
Was just icing on the cake that when they were talking about super heavy armor, they showed both the power armor of the Ultrasmurfs from 40k and Chaos from fantasy.
@@leadpaintchips9461 Crimson Fists, not Ultramarines. Sons of Dorn not Guilliman :P
That’s all well and good, but what about dragons? If you’re super strong you can just chuck them at the enemy.
What about Spider-man? He can stick to walls with his feet as seen in Into the Spiderverse. He also has super strength. Wouldn’t the ability to climb up walls serve as an anchor for him if he uses a giant sword?
This discussion started up in Shad's problem with giant swords video. Ultimately it turned into a debate over whether or not Spider-man has enough durability to swing a giant sword without snapping his own tendons. Personally, I said yes, but a lot of people said his durability isn't that high.
@@HSuper_Lee he may be able to do it safely most of the time. but a little too much acceleration/ sudden deceleration or a wrong twist in some way, and he could seriously injure himself. I could see him pull it off as a one time, one hit type of thing tho.
Considering his strength feats in canon, I don't see why he couldn't. And considering his agility (and Spider Sense) he would be able to know when he would hurt himself and just spin with it. 🤷
There's a solution even easier for that. Spider is not into killing people, so no need for giant weapons. And it would slow him anyway probably.
10:45, Shad has invented Garren from League of Legends.
For those with super-strength, huge slings for slinging boulder-sized shot. Turn them into walking trebuchets to breakup enemy frontline troop formations, and to bombard field fortifications, castle sieges. Heavy maces for close-quarter fighting.
So early that even TH-cam says "No views" on the video.
Shad Fact: Shad has ridden on a supersonic jet. We calculated that while on the Jet he reached a speed of Mach 3. When we asked him about he said it was great fun but the pressure change in his ear was just awful.
Yes On, not in, on.
You should be able to edit your comments with *The 3 dots on right of each comment or post 😎
+plasmaburndeath Thank god for you, I’ve been trying to figure out how to do that for four years. No-one would tell me how to do it, and TH-cam help is nonexistent.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 no problem. odd continuous, stressful issues that are difficult to find remedy for, are my specialty.
A question to consider here alongside wearing heavy armour with super strength is the actual durability of your body. I was taking a trip to Ireland recently and I had to carry a heavy backpack around with me - and while I could carry it around with me without any issues, when I got to our destination and I looked at myself in the mirror I had huge black bruises on my shoulders because of the amount of weight pressing down on my skin had damaged the stuff underneath it. I'm sure the vast majority of people are also aware of the issues with lifting really heavy things with your hands - this results in blisters, skin getting worn off your fingers, bleeding and more nasty stuff. If you were identically the same as you are now but you decided to just lift a giant boulder above your head you would likely just dislocate your shoulders and injure your hands regardless of the actual strength of your muscles!
Super strength necessearly comes with the ability of the body to endure that strength. Incidentally, human skeletal muscle is capable of producing enough force to rip itself from its tendons, and even brake some smaller bones, and its only some inbuilt safeguards that keep is from doing this regularly.
@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 that's exactly what I was saying, it's necessary to have a durable enough body if you have super strength
Shad has a great personality and I think is perfect for a good educational show doing these discussions. Be nice to watch
As a person with super strength myself I found this to be very helpful thanks man
Notification squad boii, I never miss shad videos
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I don't think having an edge would matter, all cutting is is applying enough pressure to overcome the tensile strength of molecules
If you can hit that hard it may not matter if it doesn't have an edge
Read a fantasy book about a berserker who carried a huge blunt sword with no edge at all, but when he entered his berserker state, his strength increased so much that the blunt sword could still fell trees. I get ya.
@@genobreaker1054 That's literally Guts from Berserk. The Dragonslayer is much too large to be called a sword. It is far too thick, and heavy, and rough. Indeed it is more like a slab of raw iron. He even cuts right through stone pillars on several occasions.
@@josh-oo didn't say the idea was original, but I'm thinking of a Dungeons&Dragons book, don't remember the character's name though. In his berserker state, he can't tell friend from foe and is seeking a way to cure himself so he doesn't kill anyone (else) that he cares about.
@@genobreaker1054 That sounds interesting, but I think I like Berserk more.
Yep. Even with normal human strength, you could easily break through skin or metal with a hammer. An increase in strength and weight just multiplies that capacity.
On the subject of super strength and weapons being destroyed by the forces, I was expecting to hear you actually talk about the way a hammer resolves much of this conflict.
By placing the mass at the end of a lever, be it something on the measure of a maul, or even as small as a single-handed mallet, something rather interesting happens. The shaft has very little mass, and therefore experiences very weak forces upon impact IF you do not continue to apply pressure through the strike. In practice, when using a weapon of such mass, this is the proper practice regardless of super strength because the energy of the hammer is already a multiple of the effort used to accelerate the head to that point, meaning any forced follow-through is a tiny fraction of additional energy transfer, and simply not worth the exertion involved.
By this means, a solid mass with enough toughness to withstand the impact (achievable by simply making it very large) on the end of a lever is an ideal weapon for super strength. All you need do is accelerate it as hard as you can, and let the weight of the hammer carry that multiplied energy into the target. The only limitation at that point is a haft must be strong enough to both support the weight of the head and the forces of the initial acceleration. This is not as big of a problem as it might seem. An ordinary steel bar used for power lifting can hold over 400kg.
If you placed just 100kg on one end of such a bar and had the strength to swing it at the same speed an average person can swing a 20lb sledge hammer, the forces would be almost incomprehensible by human standards.
What are you talking about? I've had hammers break on me all the time. They may not break on the first swing, but they will inevitably snap their handles. The real advantage hammers have is that a shaft is a lot easier and cheaper to replace than a custom made blade.
Ashton the hammers you use are either wooden or fiberglass handles. The doc is talking about a hard metal handle. It would probably break eventually but it would take a while.
I love the fact that you also have an entire shelf dedicated to the Wheel of Time series.
One more point to consider is that if you have super strength, you can use a mace as though it were a sword, changing direction rapidly and avoiding the predictable attack patterns that come with a mace.
The best use for super strength is to wear really heavy gauntlets so you can just smash people with punch barrages
What you should make gauntlets of, though?
@@odifyltsaeb8846 depleted uranium ought to do it.
@@genobreaker1054 DU is for knuckles, not gauntlets. That may be an idea in itself though.
@@odifyltsaeb8846 given the density of the material, it could add significant weight, the more the better. Why not the full gauntlet?
@@genobreaker1054 I was thinking about lead gauntlet I had when I was a kid. I, let's say, happened across the lead sheet, and made a gauntlet out of it. It was heavy, but it was soft, and had a tendency to deform, and was difficult to remove afterwards. Thinking of it again, this may not be a problem for a superman.
I came up with another real world weapon a character with super strength but not super speed can use, cannon balls, just throw them at people. If you can accelerate a cannon ball up to the same max speed you can thrown a tennis ball, think of the damage.
So... Garp from one piece?
"Clubby sword" might i propose the glorious FUGS
Marion Harmon is an author that uses some of your discussions (and addresses some of the issues) In his superhero novel series Wearing the Cape. Including the mass is armor. The hero Astra is described as a "Pixie" (maybe 4'11" - 5' and between 40-50 kilos). As an Atlas(superman) type she had access to an ability an Ajax(Hulk) type would not. Your own Missile. Which is the name the Author used to describe being able to fly without a visible means of propulsion. So as a permission she could anchor herself by flying "down" or "in place". In the second book she's given armor(100kg)(greaves with polyen, bracers, breastplate) and a short handled maul. (50kg) Which (given the description of her strength(see last paragraph)) she could swing as fast as her fist. But while she could easily swing her weapon without over balancing, he still gave her a fighting style where she would use the momentum of a missed swing to bring a knee in to strike.
Which brings us to another facet you touched on. If something isn't anchored and is strong enough structurally to take the hit (and less inertia than the momentum striking it) it will be knocked in the direction of the strike. Which means the best way for characters with super strength to damage each other is through grapples and dirty fighting. (gouging, elbows, knees, pressure points, etc.)
What blows my mind the most is seeing what the difference in weight would likely feel like to someone with even low (say 10 ton) super strength. An average(ish) person that weighed 100 kg and could press 75 kg that could suddenly press 10,000 kg would FEEL like he weighed 750 GRAMS. That's right about 5 baseballs or cricket balls.
He didn't do as well researching vehicle weights as the number he gives for Astra's strength is off by about 15 tons from his description of her strength. Though, to be honest, I didn't know a city bus could range from 10 -20 tons and Tractor trailer 20-40 tons before I looked it up. The only weight I knew off hand was 60 tons for an Main Battle Tank from my time in the military.
Subbed because you have the ENTIRE Wheel of Time series in your bookcase. A seriously underrated series that definitely deserves a Netlix Series Adaptation! Seeing the Aes Sedai weave their magic with modern day CGI would certainly be a sight!
Well, now there is an adaptation, but many of the book fans didn't like it.