What medieval weapons would fantasy GIANTS really use? FANTASY RE-ARMED
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- Would fantasy giants just use clubs and rocks or are there other historical medieval weapons better suited to them?
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The bigger the giant is, the more their ideal weapon approaches a flyswatter
A giant with sufficient size can make a broom stronger than most bombs.
@Eric Nunya Well, they didn't say how many bombs, just that it would be stronger than most of them. I suppose that most (amount) of the world's supply of firecrackers piled up could still do a lot of damage.
More than a broom at least.
@@CapitainCutlet Imagine a giant with a sling throwing grenades packed with five pounds of gunpowder and five pounds of nails.
@@emmitstewart1921 that's an interesting idea.
maybe they should smack people to death?
As technology progresses, the Giants start to show up on the battlefield with their lawn mowers.
then... Giant Roombas
Two words, driving lawnmowers...
The weed wacker of death.
A cavalery attack comprised of a Giant fromation stampede with weaponized 2-weeled wheelbarrows with 2 bowmans , followed by a second row with scythes to cleanup the who ones made it through the gaps. Each Giant having one instant legolas bowman on the back to keep clear from annoying sneak attacks.
Lol
As soon as you mentioned scythe, I got this uncomfortable feeling. Comparing humans to grass or crop getting cut is a really sinister thought. Imagine giant just casually mowing his way through fields of people.
The fear factor alone would cause armies to flee. Especially being that cloth is the best armor, the giant could be dressed in a layered cloak with a scary masked helm. People would think death himself has come to decimate them, and they wouldnt even be wrong!
@@lukemarquardt9745 Yeah fear can't be underestimated. But just the thought of being set into the role of a harvestable crop is already unsettling.
"Death rides a Lawnmower" coming to theaters next Halloween.
This film is rated "R".
golf club
Fantasy: The bones of giants are not made out of calcium, but out of certain rare metal alloys. This enables them to be as nimble as smaller humanoids. However, that is also why giants have been hunted to extinction in some regions.
okay... so can we ask question?
WHAT THE HELL WERE THESE PEOPLE USING TO CASUALLY KILL GIGAN WITH METAL BONES?
@@ofal5124 Magic... i guess...
imagine having super conductive metal bones and going against someone that can yeet lightning bolts in your face
@@ofal5124 I really can't imagine any way that you would try to kill a giant that would require breaking bones. If your spear hits a rib and not an organ, you've fucked up whether the ribs are made of metal or of calcium (which is also a metal, technically). The goal is to get around the bones.
I think pure carbon that structures itself as diamond is everything you need.
@@ofal5124 cleverness, their environment, etc. Get the high ground, throw a spear into its throat. It's a hard throw, but not impossible. Likely, though, they'd be hunted by an industrial society with need for metal, so gunpowder becomes a factor.
"Checkmate David I have a sling too."- Goliath
The first thing I thought was "There is some inherent irony to this."
Luke Hathcock same with how merfolk best weapon against land people are hooks and nets
And that was the invention of the Trebuchet...
more like... octbuchet :D
''check mate the entire village over there''
If a human-sized pommel can end a foe rightly...
Imagine what a giant-sized pommel can do... *shudders*
they could end a *castle* rightly!
matthew hurley Or a small hilltop rightly!
the universe
ikr
But what about a dragon sized pommel?
Someone has maybe brought this up before, but...
Re: giants weaponizing their feet - in the Chronicles of Narnia books, when giants were preparing to go into battle at one point, they all sat down to put on spiked boots.
Good thinking, C.S. Lewis!
I just mentioned CS Lewis the other day when pointing out how often Bullies in school end up being a favorite of some school administrator and end up doing their bullying below the radar. (The Silver Chair)
@@MrSheckstr what?
@@MrSheckstr The Silver Chair is so good, probably my fav part
You kinda made me want to reread it
They also threw rocks at Jill and Eustace and Puddleglum in The Silver Chair book. They barely escaped by going into an underground tunnel.
"I help any time."
-- Giant archer friend in Dark Souls 3.
*Predator Missiles some poor hollow schmuck*
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I actually was subscribed to them before Shad so when I saw him give a shout-out, I was pleasantly surprised
Because he's just that lovable.
A true gentleman
he is just the best
It’s a good channel. Specifically Red’s videos, I don’t really care for Blue’s.
David wouldn't have been so lucky if Goliath had a sling too.
Goliath had a sword? Why didn't he just throw the pommel at David?
Well because a Giant is strong and is amused about the fact that a human could win against a Giant.
It was luck. Goliath was too stupid to have a shield...
Even with a sling Goliath would probably lose. Sure, the giant slingshot would be a deadly weapon when you fire it, but to fire it you need to get a couple of spins out. Considering that it is giant, accelerating to necessary speed would be much slower, David would probably be able to fire 3-4 shots before Goliath would throw his thing.
Goliath’s pride was what felled him. He was arrogant and cocky.
"Ooh, a sling. Thats cute. Wait till you see mine." - Goliath
I don’t remember David and Goliath going this way
Indecently, David never killed Goliath with a sling, he just stunned him and used Goliath's own sword to make the killing blow... according to the myth.
@@Mark_Agamotto1313_Smith Goliath fell over and David claimed his head with his sword which probably was the initial kill.
LMFAO
Damn should've brought storm ruler
you know what i like about this channel? the fact that we are sitting here, listening to shad seriously break down what "GIANTS" would use as weapons.... and then i look to the right and the play next shows "what weapons would snake people really use?"... THAT is why i like this channel.
When a dog is trying nip at you, do "you lean down and punch it?"
No. I bite the dog back.
that only confirms that you believe it's a threat. You need to hump it to assert dominance :D
Dogs wont bite you if you run towards them. They aren't stupid they know they only have one mode of attack so if you attack first they wont try to bite you they'll run.
Tip of the day
Based
Just... Wtf
@@Noctua8 oh I know
So what I'm hearing is that the absolute best melee weapon for a giant would be a combination of a scythe and a club...?
Giants are the best golf players in fantasy
just imagine playing golf with heads of your enemies
@@ofal5124 I heard a tale of one man that charged a warchief with a club and, with a single swing, took the chief's head clean off. It sailed a hundred yards through the air and landed in a rabbit hole. Thus, the battle was won and the game of golf invented at the same time
@@WhiteSheetCoverUp1 Hobbit reference right?
They'd probably be awesome at street hockey too!
@@WhiteSheetCoverUp1 . It PA
Imagine a combine-harvester-sized push-mower! That'd be an army-killer, and all the giant has to do is push!
But if giants are such perfect soldiers, the enemy would likely use them as well, so what would be the best weapons for giant v. giant warfare? Maybe a halberd or war-pick/axe and shield combo?
I think comically long pikes, a lot of comically long pikes. Something like the Macedonian phalanx (idk how it is said in English, i hope i wrote that correctly)
Now, imagine a giant with a giant war-bow and boots with spikes... Terrifying
@@tizio3306 you've got it right
fucking whole trees as spears and I mean the 100m long trees kind it's a club and a spear
Since giants have 8 times the volume to maintain, they'd need a lot more food and water to live.
Maybe they're so prohibitively expensive that only something like Rome could afford a practical army of them. That'd mean that they wouldn't need to consider giant v giant so much.
Shad, I just realized that a giant would be the best medieval weapon to fight a dragon.
I'm pretty sure giants are the dragons' worst enemy in dnd
@@StarryxNight5 ye they are
Give them something like a halberd and a sling as well as protection against fire breath and that dragon doesn't stand much of a chance (correct me if I'm wrong in the weapon choice of halberd)
@@alexanderthegreat6682 with dragons youd want to stay as far away as possible due how many ways they can kill you, youd most likely want a long spear or cross bows with fire bolts and or what ever element they are weak to,and a large round sheild would be better then a sling ,due to the fact that dragons have claws and teeth that could bite throuh a sling
@@alexanderthegreat6682 Tennisracket/tennisketcher..
I think it's really great, that you recommend and link other youtubers and building some form of community instead of seeing them as competitors, because we are all interested in the same topics and the more opinions, the better!
well when you can easily watch multiple videos, they don't need to compete as much, especially when they recommend other channels those channels might recommend then back. it's a win win situation
My thoughts exactly, the more other channels grow the more everyone benefits ^_^
Shadiversity - I've been thinking about scythes for giants for some time as well. Then my mind has wandered a bit more towards Warhammer 40k territory and I just saw a beautiful image of a giant with a chainsaw on a scythe pole, absolutely grinding through any infantry :D #chainscythesforgiants
now... what would a giant's war scythe look like? would it have a hammer end at the back?
Wouldn't a giant chain be bloody brilliant for a Giant too?
You: So how'd you win?
Giant: Well... I threw a rock at him!!
It was a big rock!
So a giant is a nimble siege tower with either a human-punter club or a Ballista-strength Longbow!
Or both
Giants in shad's mind: "Honey, I'm going to go out and trim the humans" "Alright, have fun"
Chrona Trigger
xD made my day ^^
Wut about a giant carrying a ballista
@Henry DallOglio I think a giant with a bow would be a ballista bucko. why not a giant with one of those gigantic crossbows that required 2 people to fire except scaled up to giant size? That would probably be like a super ballista assuming you could bend the string without getting it permanently stuck, from what I understand the string on that particular crossbow was made of metal, and even if you made a gigantic spring-steel string that was 4 times thicker, they are still bending it farther back because of the larger surface area of the crossbow putting more abuse on the metal. Not to mention, that I’m pretty sure metal becomes less resilient the thicker it is.
A giant does not simply trim space marines
@@armorman55 In the Imperium of Man, Space Marines trim you... well till some other overpowered super soldier/weapon kills them, then another over powered super soldier/weapon kills them, and so on and so forth.... OVERPOWERED IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.
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I was scouting around the enemy's castle at night, a good half a kilometre away from the walls in a large grass field to stay well out of sight. This was said to be one of if not the most highly protected castle in all of the land. It had three exterior walls, between which was a fifty-meter gap filled with oil that could be set ablaze at any time. All three walls had their own battlements and dozens of men that lived at each of the walls to keep a constant eye out for intruders and to rain armour-piercing arrows upon anyone that was deemed a threat. My goal was simple: find a weak point in their defences, and report back.
Suddenly I froze as a light appeared behind me. I cautiously turned around and couldn't believe what I saw. It was a giant. These were creatures of myth, that you would tell your kids about to scare them into doing their household duties, but you never really believed that they existed. These towering beasts were three to four times the size of a man with limbs like tree trunks and were said to be strong enough to knock aside a dozen armoured soldiers at a time. Their armour was supposed to be centimetres thick leather armour, with steel helmets so thick they could withstand a hit from a battering ram. Only siege level weapons were supposed to be able to take down these beasts.
The giant had just lit an oily rock on fire that was at least the size of a horse's head. The behemoth put it in a sling that looked like it should be attached to a trebuchet, not wielded by hand. He started swinging it around, slowly at first, but slowly gaining speed. After a few short seconds, the sling was swinging so fast a low but incredibly loud hum was emanating from it, the flaming boulder just an orange ring illuminating the giant.
I could see torchlight frantically moving around the castle barracks. The castle guards had seen the attacker but were hopelessly unprepared for what came next.
An ear-shattering SNAP echoed into the night as the living siege weapon let go of one end of the sling. The enormous projectile approaching the castle at speeds that rivalled a ballista. With a gigantic CRASH, the boulder punched a hole clean through the first and second layers of the castle wall, stopping inside the third wall, but somehow the walls stayed standing. They didn't fare so well after the second shot though. I watched in horror as rock after rock was hurled at the castle until the entire castle was nothing but a pile of flaming stone rubble. After observing the destruction he had caused, the giant walked off into the night. The most secure place inside or outside the kingdom had just been destroyed as if it was a sandcastle, and I didn’t know what to think.
Great Work!
@@blackwaters26 Thank you!
why is this so low. thumbs up
Truly captures the sheer horror of having a Giant on the battlefield.
@@fermosofiore1336 lol I disliked because of leather armour.
I'm going to call it now before I watch: A fly swatter.
No
Having played as an Ogryn in Warhammer 40K Darktide has given me a greater appreciation of what size means in combat. Ogryns are are easily twice the size and width of a normal human, and bonking and bullying hordes of little humans from a first-person perspective was very eye-opening. If you can knock someone on their feet they're much easier to beat in combat, and with the height, strength and leverage I feel like this would be a big tactic of giants on things more approaching their height, or if your fiction has giants that aren't house sized (or if they vary greatly between types).
Another thing this made me think of was the trope I mostly saw in superhero cartoons growing up, where there's a big dude who's gotten a hold of a little dude (usually the hero). Then invariably throw the little dude away. Why? You have him at your mercy! I mean, I know the real reason is that the cartoon can't keep airing if the villain of one episode crushes the hero while he's helpless, but you get what I mean. I feel like crushing, or even tearing off limbs, is something that large humanoids would do to small humanoids. Heck, chimps do that to monkeys or even other chimps given the chance.
That also made me think, giant chimps would be an absolutely terrifying fantasy monster.
Ogryns don't think
The moment I saw that title I was thinking Scythe, giant literally mowing down humans
Yeah that was my first idea too. I mean farmers take out fields of grass and plants so quickly, imagine a giant.
or large two handed swords, same effect
@@vlastimilpaluska9682 they would have to crouch to get the same effect.
@@codymcfarland3812 I dont think, if they are only big as twice as human...
@@vlastimilpaluska9682 that depends, that giant from GoT would still benefit from scythe
A giant with a sling, so basically a muscle powered cannon
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Imagine the size of a giant built siege weapon we could load and launch larger things
I think they might be able to damge tanks with this sling those Giants
Now give them explosive rocks.
@@tridentrex0576 we call those grenades
Actually, I think that, in a massed battle, a giant's ranged weapon of choice would be a shot-put. Mainly because it would not go as far as an arrow or a sling. Imagine a giant-sized shot-put landing in the middle of an enemy formation, and then bouncing! It would just smash a trail of devastation through half the army.
You can tell Shad loves what he does, because it's so hard for him to avoid going off on tangents about certain topics.
Mhmm, also how energetic he gets. It's almost like he has 100 thoughts t once
@@isdrakon9802 he acts just like a kid on Christmas
(maniacl laughter) You just turned a giant into an evil gardener!!!!!
Time to Harvest....muahhahahaha
Just yes yes
Wyatt Schaefer blood makes the grass grow
I don't think he realizes that those have been used in in history
Just give the giant a great shield that is in relation to its size and let it charge through.
Giant: "**i may be dumb as a stump, but i can still hit you with a stump**"
It's time for big brain thinks
"This is my crowbar... I call him Mr. Crowbar."
Me: That's stupid.
Also me: *gets head beaten in*
"Yeah, well look where being smart got you."
@@theenigma6160 Mr. Crowbar disagrees.
I'm so proud of myself. When he was describing the height of humans compared to giants and the need for reach I actually said "harvesting scythe." I was kind of joking, but I was so happy when he actually started talking about it.
Me: *writing a fantasy story*
Me, watching this video: *furiously takes notes*
Also as a guy who used scythe a lot (in my younger years) I can attest that uneven ground is not a problem if you have enough skill in using it. Scythe is even intentionally designed with this in mind: it's blade is turned slightly upward so if it run on the hillock it bounces up and runs over it instead of cutting into it.
DoctorM42 i kinda what to see a giant with a giant sized weed wacker that would be hilarious.
Giants would make a killing in the lawn-care business.
@@Michael-McCollum aiming at me or y enemy? because I'd rather not imagine being blown to shreds by what would more than likely equate to a living A-10 Warthog in sheer power.
Shad do a series on the best weapon humans can use against fantasy races
Absolutely!
Fairies. They fly and they're on the other end of the height/mass scale.
Yes please!
fairies are a magic based race. it would not be a easy race to arm with weapons to fight. in myth fairies are annoying not dangerousness per say.
Weaponized fly swatter... perhaps a metal-wire tennis racquet?
23:50 that was my first thought, glad you didn't overlook the utility of the humble sling as so many fictional medieval depictions do.
One of my favorite TH-camrs giving a special shout out to one of my other favorite TH-camrs (Overly Sarcastic Productions) is really cool to see. Their "Trope Talks" series is my favorite thing on TH-cam.
Yezz it's an awsome beginning
So what you’re saying is, a giant could use a sling to launch a 90kg projectile over 600 metres?
the mobile trebuchet xD
Truly, giants are the superior siege weapon.
Even better give a giant a swarm of humans and have them build a giant powered trebuchet and have like 30 gaints use it to luanch a 200kg projectile over 1500 meters.
@@dragonwithamonocle I totally agree.
A Giant with a giant sized bow is a mobile ballista.
A Giant with a sling is a mobile trebuchet.
A Giant with a golf club is...
probably not a siege weapon but still good xD
Giant with a flail is a literal wrecking ball.
Give it padded armor, a tower shield and a sling for range and you have a mobile siege tower that walks right up to the gate or walls and proceeds to knock them down.
I'm now looking at giants as a viable option to build D&D military units lol
Ya know, you were really enthused about the centrifugal force a Giant could put behind a sling so I was surprised you never mentioned a particular melee weapon. The flail.
xbox432 flail with bladed chain. Combine some of the rotational energy of the sling (without releasing a projectile) with the lawn mower effect of the scythe and the large hit box of the club. How is this not a thing?
i would give the Giant a naginata it is a medival weapon (just from the other end of the world). I think it would be better then a scythe
Flail would be OP. I was thinking flail or even just a chain the whole time. It would be light for the giant, and would magnify his force tremendously through it's length. Speed would not be an issue as the tip would accelerate fast and with the length of the chain would be able to cut swathes of foes down.
chain would break.
Cassandra depends on the material's tensile strength, thickness, and methods of manufacture, now wouldn't it? Could be that with a chain using inch thick steel appropriately welded it could withstand the force. However, I'm not a materials genius, so it's quite possible steel would weigh itself down faster than buulding the sufficient strength. Fantasy provides all sorts of super metals that are incredibly strong yet lightweight, so perhaps an adamantium, mithril, or other super metal would be more than sufficient.
The Greeks got this right because in their myth of Chronos, Kronos used a scythe
Waan't it a sickle?
@@saharyn7551 it was either or, different sources give different accounts
The moment he asked if there was a way to weaponize throwing rocks a little bit more, my mind began to unravel.
You are in a constant state of complete awe once you start talking about giants with slings. I enthusiastically join you in this state of amazement.
But a chain bola would bet better verses an army on a battlefield. Where a normal bola can kill or ensnare a giants bola would do club like area damage.
Holy damn, scythe and sling both make a ton of sense... Guess what's happening in my next D&D campaign. LOL
End your Player Characters rightly
They ofc have spike boots right?
Depends on type of giant
Hill giants
Stone giants
Fire giants
Spiked boots, a sling, a scythe, and a whip. Welp. My players are fucked. :)
Lots of death
23:59 When David pissed you really hard so you decide to use his own weapon against him xD
Giant slingers ... acting as legged "cannons" ...
I want to have this in my fantasy world.
Shad, you are an evil genius XD.
In one of my D&D campaigns, I had it so that some giants would equip themselves with lengths of spiked chains which they would use to just sweep through enemy formations with wide swings. At one point I had a particularly cruel giant wrap the chain between both hands, lean close to the ground, and charge straight toward the PCs while mowing down everything in between like some kind of fantasy killdozer. Needless to say, the PCs were utterly terrified of chain-wielding giants from that point onward.
Psychopaths really make good DMs lol
Run! Giants with Slings!
*Whips
The Oliphant technique!
a Chain-wielding-Giant Bulldozer, thanks for the nightmare fuel
A Giant with an electric grass trimmer would be neat.
@@ericolens3 In a world where Giants exist and are using grass trimmer, climate change would be the least of my concerns. :D And how much methan does a giant release per fart?
Grass trimmer = modern scythe
Or just a manual one. You know, moving it causing the blades to spin since the wheels and blades and linked.
yep that was my thought -those old school weed wackers...basically a bladed golf club....or a scythe, flail, or even a bola (basically cannon chain shot at that size)
I still think a manual push mower would be terrifying. Maybe have it a bit higher off the ground as well as scaled up.
I feel like a ball on a chain, morningstar, or a whip would be pretty effective as well, if swung low to the ground. Whips would maybe be less costly than a giant scythe if they want to save metal. Axes could work pretty well in place for a scythe. Slingshots and crossbows would be pretty effective as well, and giants could defend tons of regular troops from arrow fire with a large shield. They could also hurl molotov like projectiles maybe, and kamikaze giants could serve as drawbridges or battering rams depending on the giant's and the moat's size.
Me remembering darksouls “hawkeye gough was a giant who used a giant bow and was badass with it” also giants used warhammers and halberds along with tower shields In that game
From a biological point of view, a larger animal is actually worse at dissipating heating, again due to the square cube law. For doubled size, there is quadruple the surface area to dissipate the heat, but 8 times the internal volume, that is 8 times of cells inside to produce heat. This is actually a phenomenon common in real life. A very large animal, say an elephant, consumes much less food in proportion to its body weight than a very small animal, say a mouse. So in some sense, many fantasy work depicting giants living in high mountains where the weather is cold is actually fairly realistic, as their body could handle, maybe even very comfortable in such an environment. If giants lived under hotter climates, they probably would evolve some sort of capability to better dissipate heat, or just live in water, like hippos.
Kai Xiang I always pictured ice giants when someone is talking about giants
elephants actually slow their metabolisms to prevent them from boiling. their cells mitochodria literally just work less to avoid the heat issue. so i visualise realistic giants living day to day in this low power state and being able to, when in adrenaline rush, accelarate to full power for limited bursts in combat before they begin to overheat and need to fall back. perhaps they would wear the padding on their legs and waist and mail on their torso to allow airflow while defending against arrows. also they would begin turning red as they fight as their blood rushes to their skin surface to dissipate heat. perhaps the tactics in war would be an initial assulat by giants and by the time the rest of the army catches up the giants are overheated and can rest behind the lines and fire rocks until they are cooled enough to rush into battle again.
I love the biological-physics discussion around this :-)
But before they overheat they would already have collapsed under their own weight
@@Julian-pw5mv Elephants don't do that. Giants could probably exist in real life, but they would have to develop differently from humans, most likely putting more strength in their legs then in their arms. This would also mean it would be less useful to throw things which is probably why humans didn't evolve to be giant.
A giant with a sling. The irony is real!
BURKE SULLIVAN jokes on you david, i habe a sling too
They had them but were too proud to use them in one-on-one combat, especially against normal sized foreigners.
He literally hadn't taken a break from laughing at young David before he was struck dead.
Daivd was a sheperd so the only weapons he was proficient with was a shepherd's Crook and The Rock sling
Giant Gardener gets ready for battle.
Other Giant: Where you going?
Giant Gardener: I’m gonna cut some grass.
Shad, you need to start advertising your knowledge and skills to the movie and TV show industry.
Your knowledge and insight would instantly make any movie or show with weapons or a battle infinitely better.
what about loading the giant's sling with a large number of smaller (lead) pellets? basically you'd get a medieval shotgun with a height advantage.
That's something that happens very similar in the manga of Attack of titan *SPOILERS* A giant sentient titan grabs rocks with his hands, smash the in smaller pieces, and throw the rubble in a baseball fashion decimating hundreds of mounted soldiers in very few throws.
Hmmm I prefer the single large boulder because smaller things can be blocked by walls, shields, trenches and such. If you have one big boulder, good luck trying to block that. I know I know even small pellets are impossibly damaging at that force but if you have like 20 pellets that's at best 20 men, at worse less due to inaccuracy. You wouldn't kill 2 with one pellet in most cases. But with one giant boulder you could get much much more provided they are in a dense enough formation. I guess small pellets are more against spread out formations.
I wonder how giants would fight cavalry...
ruyman90 that scene always bugged me, how fast is he throwing those things that it goes clean through the long side of a horse and still kicks up dirt on the other side?
Not sure how well they would work if only the size of modern shot without having a higher velocity than seems practical with a sling. You could make them larger though perhaps about the size and weight of a musket ball old muskets didn't exactly shoot particularly fast but were still effective with balls that size.
They could take two cannonball sized stones or metal balls, chain them together, and either sling them into groups of enemy or throw them. I imagine that would be devastating.
Giants lifting less proportionally to humans makes sense when you remember ants can left proportionally more then humans
"What do you mean, bigger weapon? I can barely even lift your puny sticks!"
Well, giants based on real life physics would lift proportionately less, yeah. Fantasy giants aren't necessarily restrained by that.
@some kinda guy You're kinda leaving out the whole exoskeleton thing ants have going on. It's a big factor.
Yeah but, people don't wear natural bone armour.
And I can lift a fuck ton more then an ant I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure a giant would be strong af
In addition to the Scythe, a big enough giant should carry 1-2 gnomes on his back with bow & arrow to defend against attacks from behind them. And to use for attack as well ( idea ripped from Shad's discussion of person on back of centaur )
Fucking should-mounted gnome guided crossbow turrets lol. I love it.
I image most giants having seige tower backpack filled with gnomes
giants getting closer and closer to being a crew operated vehicle it seems.
Maybe it's just because I am drunk, but fucking hell Shad the Chad making weird noises at the imagination of giants throwing rocks or using slings is just hilarious, i love it
Beast titan from AOT throwing rocks seems even more terrifying now
Ikr
Completely decimating whole squads and fleets of men. Holy shit
SONOTORI
Imagine him with a sling
And imagine warhammer titan using a sythe
Obviously the best weapon for a giant when fighting humans, or any opponent significantly smaller, is a golf club, Because not only is it lethal as a melee weapon my with practice you could turn the victims into projectiles. :P
lol
That's so evil
'zackley...not to mention Lacrosse and Hockey sticks
Lawn scythe
Edit: just got to the end of the vid. turns out i was on the money.
But it was a hobbit who invented golf
funny you mention the sling, i remember a friend of mine talking about his tabletop game (not D&D, one of the other ones), he had a giant character that had some sort of feat that allowed him to sling 30kg boulders like a seige weapon, they used it to fling their halfling character at the enemies
R.I.P. halfling
Te sling was my initial thought, for all of the reasons you mention. You also figure that trebuchets had a natural inaccuracy, so they were a lot of trial and error, whereas rocks in a sling can be incredibly accurate when employed by a skilled hand.
So you are talking about a walking trebuchet, with greater centrifugal force, and far more accuracy. As you said, they could absolutely decimate armies before the armies got into range.
literally, throughout the entirety of this video I was thinking "farmers scyth, literally cut them down like wheat." I Got so psyched when he actually brought it up.
Give them a large shovel. They can just scoop up the humans and just throw them away, hahaha. Would make for a hilarious battle.
Or scoop up some dirt and use it as a spray attack
I'll go you one better. Giant hockey stick. Slap shot a guy into the rest of his squad and watch them fly. BOOM.
Fucking golf club
I'm putting this in a session.
@@MistaOppritunity Please post a vid telling us how it goes when you do.
I was thinking when Shad said that Giants would weaponize their feet it made me think of Giants learning martial arts that make heavy emphasis on kicking.
Awesome video! It really helps me to get into the giants mind frame when I'm writing my DnD sessions.
If used right, the tower shield could mow down enemies and double as a mass shelter for Allies against projectile weaponry.
Kind of what i thought, imagine giants forming shield walls, and clubbing humans in front of them, humans could do shit in melee. They'd need catapults and scorpions.
@@eltrox1 so they become a moving fortress
This is a good point
I believe the D&D 5e has a fire giant that wields two tower shields for this exact purpose.
@@kaoticmaster01 the Fire Giant Dreadnaut, yes
"A big hitty whacky thing"... shads vocabulary is fantastic
14:05 So the stay-puffed marshmallow giants would be even more unstoppable! That would be downright comical to watch; a slightly poofy giant tanking ALL the hits and punting EVERYTHING!
The way to defeat them would be with fire... and some Graham Crackers and chocolate!
22:10 Laughs in Hawkeye Ghough also Laughs in Giant in DS3
Giant with a club; this’ll be easy
Giant with a sling and padded armor; why do I hear boss music?
edit: yo holy crap thanks for the 600+ likes
someone tell fromsoft, we found their next boss fight
What about a giant long bow?
Its range and power would be better than a ballista!
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Shoot em with a ballista bolt
God of War has entered the chat. 😏
"The bigger they become, the less weapons they need" well, I prefer a flyswatter, as size limits speed.
Great minds think alike, Shad. As soon as I pictured hitting things beneath your waist, I immediately thought of the scythe
I can't believe that I never once thought of steel tipped boots (and I used to wear them daily for work, too), much less the sling! 😲 OTOH, I _was_ just waiting to see if you'd mention the agricultural scythe (though I didn't see the double-edge coming)! ❤️
Crazy "out of the box" thought when you mentioned overheating. Dragons existed, but, there wings were for cooling them down, not for flying. The dragons would flap there wings and create a current but would NEVER leave the ground and they knew it. If they were cold there wings were solar panels absorbing heat. But a fighting dragon would flap its wings both disorienting its attacker or prey and cooling Its self off at the same time. Imagine it, really. The fact that it's plausable is kinda scary.
With flying being out of the question, could a dragon use its wings to glide from a high ground?
@@ragnarbjarnason2386 Think of how much mass is tied to that Dragon. When young and small, superb, it can glide, it might even be able to generate a bit of lift. But after a certain size, that's a no go.
I like Jacob's idea however and I will use that in future RPGs ^^
@@ragnarbjarnason2386 dragons from Skyrim or Game of thrones have waaaaay to small wings to allow any form of flight. These wings would also have to be incredibly strong, because a dragon 10 times bigger than a normal bird would weight 1000 times more, not 10 times more. (Plus scales which are incredibly heavy for flying animals)
@@michac.8283 I always figured that since they breathed fire, they could heat up the air within them to fly in a way similar to hot air balloons, and flapping their wings generated thrust and cooled them externally too.
@@andrewpenn1145 well that would not work that well. Hot air floats upwards because it's less dense than cold air. If we stuffed a dragon with a lot of hot air, it wouldn't lift it because compressing air won't make it float more, white quite the opposite actually (because it becomes denser)
When you began mentioning the weapon the farming scythe came to my mind too xD It would cause the giant to become a giant lawnmower.
Yeah, and depending on the construction of the weapon and technique used, most humans would get decapitated by the first swing, any survivors who ducked would be drenched in gore and probably panic and try to run, meaning easy pickings for the giants using the slings and rocks as big or bigger than human heads. Hell, in a pinch, using the humans' severed heads as sling ammo could be a potentially deadly shock tactic. Decapitate a regiment sent to kill you, sling their severed heads over the wall of the castle that sent them, and watch the puny man-things shit themselves in terror before you demolish their walls and destroy everything they own for their offenses.
21:08 "Just BRING IT BACK FOR ANOTHER ONE"
Exactly! That's the first thing I thought when I saw the thumbnail, with humans reaching the giants knees.
But I would change the blade to something more like a scimitar, so that a pesky heavily armoured human would slide off the blade instead of geting stuck on it.
And I don't think a double edged blade is a good idea for a scythe. The balance of the scythe comes from "dragging" the blade behind the handles. For a double edged schyte, it's probably better to put one blade on each end. Put the right end down and sweep right to left, lift the right end up, put down the left end and sweep left to right.
It really gives a new meaning to the Dutch proverb 'Don't stick your head above the mowing field'
manmower XD
Love the video. In some of the fantasy books I write the Giants actually do use scythe and slings as their primary weapons. They wear bladed knee high armored boots. They also use large bows and spears but mostly for hunting. Glad to see my theory about weapon choices would be considered accurate.
One thing I really like about your channel is how humble you can be, and you tend to give free stuff away once you make it. Just saw the castle builds for fictional series where you offer a lot of assets while of course making a little commercial of a software but still, there is good will on you and I really appreciate this .
Knowledge, entertainment, good will. Well done sir.
Also, I am trying very hard NOT to visualize the true horror of a giant using a scythe of the design you described. That would likely end humanity
That would have ended Humanity. Now we just shoot him with a Rocket off a Drone ;)
@@jackwiedemann no giant is going to stand up to a cruise missile. A MOAB will totally do it. We don't even need to discuss nukes
@@lefthook4878 hell .50BMG to the face even. Sure their skulls are likely to be very hard but it would take a HELL of a lot of bone to stand up to a browning M2 shooting armor piercing rounds.
@@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 Tiny 30 cm needle like rockets shot from small civilien sized drones would make a quick end to any giant. They dont even need to explode and might be used multiple times as the target is stil relively soft.
You are lucky I Imagined for a Sec and I am having a crisis
Skyrim giants are scary enough, we dont need to give them slings and rocks...
Too bad that's not something we can mod into the game.... x)
They become way less scary when you get behind them and instantly kill them with a glass dagger to the leg
@@Draco-ii3ot its so fun doing x24 sneak damege as a orc
Agreed. Although, it would result in less Dragonborn corpses in orbit and more on the ground.
We don't wanna cancel the Nordic Space Program 🤣
I am glad you mentioned slings, I thought of that when watching Gladitoria's video. Also the fact that you can use near anything as ammo instead of having to craft arrows which could be expensive.
Hi Shad! Amazing video!!!)
That book idea from O.Tjore is cool too! I think it will be amazing to see such a book as a guidebook for your tabletop game you guys created, in a travelers notebook style, a bit like Volo's Guide. That piece of a story by Catortoise so awesome, maybe it can also find its place there (if the author doesn't mind, of course), as a story told by someone to our traveler along the way. If you ever do something like this it would be incredible )
god imagine a giant just standing there swatting around with a scythe and being surrounded by Soldiers being cut in half
karl johan I feel that giant would be dancing to “Another bites the Dust” 😂
@@EchoDrift540 and imagine th egiant just break dancing and just flinging every Little flee for miles
I would imagine his name be "man harvester"
sounds like something straight out of Kingdom
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rewatching this video now, i just thought of something: throwing spears and darts, specially with the assistance of spear throwers(or atlatl... or some many other names across much of the world... these things are VERY old). human sized of these can launch spears at the ridiculous speed of 150km per hour, a giant's sheer size would mean they'd accelerate the spear for longer, their strenght would allow the use of heavier spears and i'm getting scared already of how much force these would pack.
I was thinking along similar lines, but even just something as simple as a sling.
@@DavidEllis94 i was about to point out how slings are kinda modern since they use rubber, then i realized just which sling you meant. that said, the sling came as a weapon of war of old, but atlatl are even older... like, one of the earliest human tools ever made. they were used to hunt, and their shape is simple enough that a good tree branch could already be used as one, hardly any craftsmanship involved
I think a sling would be more effective against creatures that are smaller than it, like human to maybe horse sized but atlatls would be more effective against other large creatures, however, the slings would likely be effective as well, making a more generalized weapon, so it would likely be more popular among giant warriors.
@@alexanderthegreat6682 well, i find darts easier to aim than slings, but i don't think either would by quite outclassed by either.
@@anzol4523 a rock from a sling has the advantage that it's more likely to hit more people in a shot, so a sling will probably be better against humans, but spears would probably be better vs other giants.
I REALLY enjoy your approach to fantasy using real world logic, Shad. It makes it feel more realistic and creates more creative ideas of how humans would fight against such fantasy creatures.
I really like that shad is a good lad and will just link a channel because he likes it or because they held some similar content and he got inspiration
I love how excited and intense Shad gets 23:56
24:25
Ikr
And it is just awesome how much logic thinking, research, visualisation and attention to details he puts into his videos. That is rarely done for comparable content in such a high quality. There is some deeply rooted passion going on.
Thanks for great content!
Muhummad Smith Yeah it's great
Dear George RR/HBO,
Please give us giants w/slings supported by a force of mammoth calvary wielding scythes killing white walkers and snow zambies.
That'd be nice, but wasn't Wun Wun the last Giant or something?
The last giant south of the wall. Beyond the wall the wildling army dispersed and everyone fled in different directions including the giants that survived the siege of castle black. Also their king died so they had no motivations to fight anymore.
I was waiting for you to mention scythes thank you so much loved you video😂👍
In Jack the Giant Slayer, the giants would throw burning trees over the castle walls, and when the semi-automatic crossbow started taking down multiple giants, one of the main giants pulled out his slingshot, with his pouch of boulders, and it was super effective, not only taking out the semi-automatic crossbow, but also the men operating it and flew back and did notable damage to the castle wall. If that's how much damage a giant can do using a slingshot, imagine how much damage they can do using a sling.
Jeez, when you mentioned the Scythe, I physically cringed. I had this image in my head of the last time I saw someone mowing with a scythe and how quickly they cleared that field. Absolutely brutal.
T.K. Titanium I’ve seen people do it and they clear their lawn which is 4 times larger than mine and I was using a lawn mower...
Same.
I'm actually thinking that a scythe wouldn't be a very effective weapon at all against armoured foes. Basically swinging a sword at armour. It wouldn't cut through anything. The sheer force of the swing would simply push the first guy against the one standing next to him etc, a few people would be knocked to the ground, and would just get back up. the first guy might have some kind of injury due to the impact of the scythe against his armour, but everyone else would be just fine.
bram callebert
But what about a scythe modified in reach to behead humans, like Shad suggested? I really doubt the neck would have that much protection. The most one could do is duck under the scythe, but then you’d be a sitting duck face-to-face with the giant’s boot...
How about a really large magnifying glass.
🤔
Imagine the giant, whistling the whistles as if it is his normal job, mows with a smile.
Oh, that's terrible! 🤣
Lmao 😂😂
And kill them with concentrated sun light. Clever but need resources:
1. Have they envented though glass.
2. The sun itself. Can’t do that during the night.
3. Resources to make the thing.
4. Reach or range of the light beam.
5. The amount of time it need to heat up. Light are proton. They not going to do anything if it does not take time.
I like the idea of a giant lawn mower better.
15:42...
My guy is literally making the giants extinction level threat bruh💀💀💀 wtf would you kill them with if they block SIEGE WEAPONRY 💀💀🙂🙂
Fire, and lots of it
Wizards, ideally.
You seemed to be kind of struggling for a term on the effect of using a scythe. "Mow them down." I believe that's what you were looking for.
It's kinda ironic that the best weapon for a giant is the same that killed one in the bible,
You mean an oversized sword? (also ironically, the one that the giant had with him)
The sling only knocked him out.
@@briang3598 The sling is what got him killed. The sword was just used to finish him off when he was helpless. You wouldn't even have needed a weapon at that point, just some implement to cut his arteries open.
Llortnerof but the sword killed him
What about golf clubs?
"FORE"
Magmafrost13 but only Scottish giants.
they're just a fancy tree trunk.
Iconoclasm_ fe. fi. FORE! fum.
Armenian metal You did it. You won
18:08 I was able to pick up early on in the video with how you were talking about height that you were going to get to the scythe lol
Shad thanks for making a vid just for me...
Great now i know what to fight with!!
So an army of giants would completely destroy everyone, until a group of hobbits snuck into their camp at night and silently kiled them all
samuel hagberg pretty much, so I envision Giants keeping and training guard bats and large war dogs for assisting camp patrols during the night.
samuel hagberg Hobbits wouldnt kill giants worth shit, unless they had access to rocket launchers, heavy machine guns and nukes. Even then a hobbit sized machine guns would probably just piss them off and wake the whole camp.
Lets face it raw physical strength is extremely overpowered in even modern battle because it allows you to wear heavy armor that shrugs off fire from smaller creatures while your assault rifle fires fucking tank shells.
They could poison their supplies, blind them or stab them without them noticing (depending on the giant's size) and then infect them with diseases.
If they could not stab the giant's without the them noticing that means that the giant's aren't really big enough to survive being stabbed through the throat several times at once by multiple smaller humanoids while they are sleeping.
Additionally, they could also infest them with insects that burrow away at flesh, something that would be far worse to deal with for a giant since those insects are even smaller (and therefore harder to extract) compared to a giant.
Let's face it: brains triumph over brawn.
Filip Ferenčak Only in idealized fantasy books. In reality police can beat up intellectuals whenever they feel like it. Brute force > all, this includes technological superiority. The thing is that besides inventing new toys for the brawny guys to use, being super intelligent is basically completely useless.
everything has a loophole those who use force can be overcome by simply redirecting said force.brains and brawn together works best .what good is a weapon if you are too stupid to use it? it is just a worthless piece of junk. the best way to overcome a large enemy is with brains and speed. traps and deception. war is deception.
The armor analysis is exactly backwards. Square cube law makes rejecting heat harder as size goes up, not easier.
I wonder if you could make specially designed armors that let air go under it for cooling purpose.
That said, many giants seem to be covered in massive amounts of fur already in fantasy, which implies that like strength, their cooling capacity is ridiculously high and overcompensate the square-cube loss.
Apologies, but I don't think that's true. A larger creature has a larger surface area to lose heat from, elephants can survive in extreme heat based on that exact principle; capiliaries in their large, fan like ears and wrinkly skin.
For large mammals the problem is generally getting and keeping warm, not the opposite, that's why large cold-blooded creatures have been far more common than large warm-blooded creatures.
Look at bears and whales, both have to eat tons (literally), to keep their bodies warm in the trying times and both have excellent insulation.
Perhaps I just misunderstood what you meant by 'rejecting heat'.
Team Cap Thanks for the explanation, that all makes perfect sense, for a cube and as a principle of volume.I also understand now what the original poster was getting at.
I don’t think that is easily applicable to a giant because it isn’t a cube, nor is an elephant which is why it’s ears are relevant, circulatory systems and appendages being different/not cubed.
It would be interesting to know how the efficiency of perspiration in cooling larger humans fits in.
@Team Cap I am not going to pretend to be an expert on physics or thermo-dynamics.
That being said, my basic understanding of principles that have kept me alive in -45 degrees celsius give me enough confidence to say that a cube of cotton wool has a different properties to a cube of blubber for example, they don't insulate equally well and that is further mitigated when you take into account circulation. I have had frostbite, my torso was still toasty warm while my fingers had frozen.
Frostbite happens because your body cuts off circulation to extremities because the extremities lose heat quicker than the torso. That might conform to the idea that our more voluminous torsos lose temperature less quickly, but it also supports my point that the volume isn't equal across the entire organism and different parts of our bodies lose heat or retain heat differently. That's before we even talk about density etc.
I'm not trying to say you are wrong about greater volumes, but that rule doesn't take into account the circulatory system, generation of heat via muscle use (shivering for example), restriction of flow to conserve heat and the differences in the tissues that make up our bodies; fat and muscle are different.
This is a fact: You lose far more heat from your head than your torso. Therefore, a flat calculation of my volume will not tell you exactly how quickly I lose heat. How long my hair is, whether I am wearing tinfoil on my head or a hat will affect my ability to keep or lose heat, just like the elephants flappy ears allow it to cool the heat inside that giant voluminous torso.
I appreciate you taking the time to explain the idea to me, but I don't think it can be so easily applied to living creatures and their ability to regulate temperature, there are far more variables than just volume.
That's also why you see the large elephants have such wide ears that are used as heat radiators, with blood circulating in them and increasing their surface, while smaller animals don't have such features.
History and education can be done in a fun way
Schools: i'll ignore that
yea history is gimped the worst in schools (sorry for my bad english)
It’s also absolutely washed of anything mildly interesting
The big problem with trying to improve history in schools is that no one along the political spectrum can agree on how to do it, so you get these little nudges to keep it up to date in terms of content, and do nothing to actually make it better.
Little item to add into consideration: Armies might both have Giants in them. Therefore, giant Vs giant combat could be another factor to consider. :)