Polyester, Polyfiber, Dacron, Ceconite, Stitz, Superflite - Aircraft fabric coverings EXPLAINED!

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  • The terms and details of aircraft fabric covering are often misused and not fully understood. As an example - the terms Ceconite, Dacron, Superflite, and polyester are often used in confusing ways. As aircraft builders, we should feel comfortable about each of these items. This video reviews all of these terms.
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  • @Thinkflite
    @Thinkflite 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This channel is just gold! Thank you for being so informative but not patronising. A lost art. Nice job

  • @robertcaccavalla6469
    @robertcaccavalla6469 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was a great tutorial. Thanks

  • @bobflagg1901
    @bobflagg1901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explaining the various types of covering and process.
    It was very easy to understand.

  • @GeneralDesignInnovation-es4zz
    @GeneralDesignInnovation-es4zz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic! All my fabric questions answered! Thanks for making this video!

  • @prof.heinous191
    @prof.heinous191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Useful basics, Jon!

  • @paulslevinsky580
    @paulslevinsky580 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review !!!!

  • @devoregroup
    @devoregroup 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is extremely helpful!!

  • @stolaircraftsuyanto9728
    @stolaircraftsuyanto9728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love oratex 6000 products, this is amazing as far as we experience

  • @russellsmith3825
    @russellsmith3825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I believe the scraps of oratex can be used for patching holes from rocks sticks etc, so they have value especially for field repairs of bush planes

  • @johncarter1150
    @johncarter1150 ปีที่แล้ว

    Learned a lot, Thanks!

  • @patrickmckowen2999
    @patrickmckowen2999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent 👍

  • @toddsherman6560
    @toddsherman6560 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good info 👍 Thanks

  • @dougkehoe3758
    @dougkehoe3758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Way to go Jon!...Oratex also doesn’t have many color choices and once decided it’s for life of the covering. Off cuts with Dacron can be used for tapes or even peel ply pull for wing tips or molded winglets of epoxy substrates. I still want video series of afforda-plane as soon as u done

    • @tylerp6375
      @tylerp6375 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It can be painted

  • @titikindah5504
    @titikindah5504 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank yòu for knowledge

  • @robertlewisvideo
    @robertlewisvideo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome Information. Thanks. What are the Pluses and Minuses over Aluminum ? Might make another Great video ???

  • @peterlastrucci324
    @peterlastrucci324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great presentation Jon.. thank you.. looks like you are using the Stewarts. I have always only used Polyfiber and have been really satisfied, but getting the Haz chemicals shipped to our part of the world (South Africa) has become prohibitively expensive.
    Am going to give the Stewarts water based system a try on the next project.

    • @ulbuilder
      @ulbuilder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've not used Stuarts but I will use it or Oratex on my current build. The owner of Stuarts is a stand up guy. He is a CFI too, signed me off to take my check ride.

  • @marknapier2236
    @marknapier2236 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A mechanic I respect named Bob Woods always used Stits. Now his shop uses Air-Tech Coatings. He says the main advantage is that it takes less work than Polyfiber or Stewarts. Also it can be repaired almost invisibly.

  • @crunchied8
    @crunchied8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would go for stewarts since its water base also you can use the scrap pieces as well

  • @aw8388
    @aw8388 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see you do an addendum to this with the guys using latex paints. Lots of folks on a budget and see if it really saves money.

  • @russellesimonetta3835
    @russellesimonetta3835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Uhhh I'd go oratex. As a long time RC modeler I,ve done silk dope, coverite with dope and iron on . The finishing is very finniky!! Things at eavh step can go wrong EASILY!!!! Oratex can be masked and painted if you want to go fancy but quick and easy!!!

  • @michaelguy7168
    @michaelguy7168 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation. I am having to re-cover a wing on my Rans S7. The plane was originally covered in Polyfiber, I am wanting to use the Stewerts system on the one wing. Is there any issues with doing this?

    • @TheGodamnzilla
      @TheGodamnzilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The presenter he interviewed(?) in the previous video mentions this: th-cam.com/video/fTpGVa-a9_Y/w-d-xo.html Or try tech@stewartsystems.aero and just ask the company directly, Andy Humphery (new owner of Stewarts System) is an honest dude, he won't sell you something that you can't use.

  • @mwiencek9809
    @mwiencek9809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Jon. Great video, but.. you missed discussion the Superflite System 7. I'm leaning towards this for my Highlander. Less coats of paint as the UV protection is inside the primer and top coat. Also.. Oratex is super expensive. I have quotes from Superflite for everything but the thinners and it's less than $4K complete. The like to like in Oratex just came back to me at $11.7K! I like the concept of Oratex, but the price difference is crazy huge!

    • @HomebuiltHELP
      @HomebuiltHELP  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are correct! My bad. I did miss a very popular system from Superflite. They not only provide fabric but their own system for installation and paint. Thanks for noting this omission.

  • @djal1030
    @djal1030 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you heard of Oratek?
    How that compares to these?

  • @dougkehoe3758
    @dougkehoe3758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If u pull Dacron off of epoxied substrates...u don’t have to sand prep for paint or for further adhesion.😎

  • @Jaantoenen
    @Jaantoenen ปีที่แล้ว

    What about stitching? Is it better with cotton.

  • @leonsmith1124
    @leonsmith1124 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about dope from Randolph?

  • @jjb4714
    @jjb4714 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah you just go right ahead and start that puppy up!

  • @charlesharper7292
    @charlesharper7292 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, with these systems is stitching still done? And could you make a video about stitching?

    • @commentatron
      @commentatron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You've probably Googled it already, Charles, but searching on _stewart systems rib stitching_ produces a lot of good video.
      I'm using the Superflite knot on my UL build, can't post links here, but just add this to the end of the TH-cam URL: 1au7zB8aNtQ
      Also, Jon has posted some good interview stuff with Stewart System's Marty Feehan over the years (an excerpt recently, too).

  • @jefflintz4849
    @jefflintz4849 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oratex for the win...

    • @LTVoyager
      @LTVoyager 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you are independently wealthy.

    • @cghillma
      @cghillma ปีที่แล้ว

      I believe if you check the MSDS document on Stewart Systems they advise the need for outside fresh air breathing equipment when applying their topcoat.

  • @williamleadbetter9686
    @williamleadbetter9686 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just be careful of the "system" you use as some of them don't hold up well to ethanol FREE Autogas. "I'll never use autofuel," you say, maybe not but all it takes it one accident & there goes the paint job or glue adhesion. Also many systems must have epoxy primers as the glues will lift over traditional varnish or different non epoxy paints. Look up the problems with this issue before making your choice. There are many sad & angry folks that found out the hard way. I know a couple of them, so research and read throughly.