"Next on the list is Idira [...] she's an unsanctioned psyker which means" she'll get a bullet to the head at the earlierst moment the game allows me to.
It does help you have many MANY tools, to see the Odyssey to the end, however many or few remain A truth: Why personally dirty your hands, when many tools exist
@@MuppetLord1 In the FIRST THREE FIGHTS with her, she succeeded in BLOWING HERSELF UP EVERYTIME she used her veilbreaching powers... She's a bigger danger to the group than the enemy, and a waste of space if she can't use half her powers. And i say this playing a Sanctic psyker myself.
I want to thank Owlcat for giving me a playable drukhari comapnion. My favorite faction. And yes, Marazhai is a nice melee damage dealer and an interesting companion for evil playthrough
Yeah I find him pretty whimsical and fun. Also I was trying to figure out how tall he was meant to be from his character model a few days ago, so I googled ‘Marazhai height’ and the first result that came up was a comment on a Reddit thread describing him as “too tall for a traditional twink” so. Make of that what you will.
@@SlanderedGamingI did exactly that and my favorite part of the game is to tell Abelard to introduce me properly every time we meet someone, and it's hilarious. He's a good companion, character and overall just a good guy (by 40k standarts ofc)
I've been enjoying the break down videos (though I generally forget to comment as I listen at work but can't really stop to type) and it's good to hear that it sounds like you're doing better.
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for doing this breakdown - trying to work out how stats and builds work in a new game is always my least favourite part of getting into them, but once you’ve gotten it figured out the game becomes so much fun, so content like this is a godsend when I’m about to play something for the first time. (You also coincidentally seem to have pretty much exactly the same taste in games as me, so I’m very much enjoying the fact that I’ve gotten to benefit from your coverage so much recently )
Got a little overwhelmed by all the skills, abilities, talents and the like so a medium length video like this is great for somebody like me, who isn't even level 10 yet.
21:28 I don't understand why Owlcat changed Jae to an Officer. She was a Marksman in the Alpha and given her Gunslinger and various proficiencies with Ranged weapons it should've stayed that way.
Owlcat Studio's games are always jarring to get into, and with WH40K rulesets being incorporated, it's mad confusing. Great video. Honestly helped me clear Act 1 in a breeze on Unfair difficulty. Keep up the great work man!
Man Heinrix has the exact build I was planning on using. I wanna use him but I also want to avoid redundancy so it looks like I’ll have to rethink my MC’s build.
I've seen a lot of people saying things about Marazhai like "I can fix him." Meanwhile I'm like "ISTG if he's a monster like Camellia from Wrath of the Righteous, then I'm killing him on every playthrough." All the other companions like great 👍
Feeding upon the psychic residue of suffering is the only way dark eldars can stave off the slow consumption by the Chaos God Slaanesh of their own souls. "Fixing" Marazhai would mean his soul would be eaten by an eldritch abomination, suffering for all eternity.
@@jackylepecheurNot really. Dark Eldar and regular Eldar are able to transition into the other culture. Dark Eldar aren’t a separate race, they’re just a different culture. It’s very possible for a Dark Eldar to give up their ways, join a Craftworld, and be given a spirit stone to no longer need to feed off suffering.
Dark Eldar are very much a separate race, not just a culture. They have greatly diminished psychic aptitude and more developed physical attributes. Even their basic psychic essence is completely different. Craftworlders are more resigned and hopeless, Drukhari are frantic and unstable.
@@jackylepecheur Dark Eldar are fully capable of abandoning their ways and joining their cousins on a Craftworld, Exodite Planet, or become a Harlequin.
Very sad there isn't some sort of Ork you could manage to recruit. Such as a Blood axe - Orks that willingly hire themselves out to non-ork forces or an Ork suffering some sort of head trauma that gains higher cognitive function or something similar to that :|
An Ork companion via DLC would be awesome we could also add a Tau to that even if I'm more likely to shoot them over the Ork and while very unlikely I'd love a Necron Companion something like an exiled Cryptark or a disgraced minor Lord. Though the true cherry on top at least for me would be a chance to 'trade' Ulfar for a Thousand Sons Sorcerer if you went heretical.
I turned Argenta into a heavy bolter-heavy flamer Archmilitant. She is basically unstoppable, had to respec her once to drop melta weapon proficiency to pick up second skin but otherwise if you focus on her abilities and skills with a bolter and a flamer you can turn her into an absolute monster, probably THE most powerful ranged combatant imo.
Thanks bro! Super useful, I hope you are going to hit this game hard with your typically thorough and well thought out hot takes, reviews, commentary, etc. Really looking forward to this one.
You'll need to make an updated guide for the release version as there are a ton of changes which subtly change how you'd upgrade in your Archtype wheel. For example, for Abelard you only really need a base of 45 Strength to unlock Heavy Armour so you only ever need to get 5+ Strength once at the start of the game; After that you want to go full Toughness, you can also get insanely high Parry that scales off Toughness and Armour using Thick Skin and with Heavy Armour it just adds even more Parry, as well as additional Deflection stacks with him now from other Talents, so focus on that too. Get Taunting Scream and any type of ability which scales off Toughness and Damage Retaliation such as Sworn Enemy - which is useful against a boss or scary stuff like Necrons. I also went full Divination Idira which benefits from her +1 to Psy level including her passive which removes the enemy's ability to land critical strikes and her buffs provide additional bonuses as you can build her to fully fill her in story role now which is awesome. I built Heinrix with a mindset to replicate a Retribution Paladin from WoW approach, which is psychic powers which debuff enemies or boost damage to super charge attacks and support the tank which is usually Abelard. I never really picked any of his Warrior abilities or talents, didn't need to, all his Biomancy stuff is good enough and better when pared with Abelard or Ulfar.
Most notable bottom lines: There is only 1 single companion focused on intelligence in act 1 (Tech Priest) so if youre not bringing him you kinda have to go int. One of the 2 available warriors is a Psyker and stacking psykers isnt great due to warp shenanigans so if you want to bring 2 warriors and Indira - MC should roll a warrior. Unfortunately it seems that most companions get more interesting features than the main character - basically the opposite of Wrath.
I mean, it's Act 1. By the time you have more companions than slots, the act is about to be over. Psyker veil meter isn't that harsh tbh, evne moreso if you have one of the veil reduction talents on Cassia or a psyker. Like 9/10 times I've gotten Perils it was because Idira did another fucky-wucky, not because I pushed the veil meter up into the danger zone.
@@magni5648 Psyker veil meter isnt consistent. In some fights its fine but in some others you really dont get much room to play with (or none at all for that matter - gl having 2 dead characters). Also some abilities you dont get in act 1 like indira using heroic psy lightning cost A LOT.
@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash There's a couple fights with the veil already damaged, but it's overall not a big deal in my experience. Also, I don't evne use the lightning that much. Idira is there to buff and snipe form the backline.
Will be interesting to see which companions you can keep if you decide to go the heretic route, being able to turn the space marine or sister of battle into a traitor would be a cool if possible.
The thing is Aeldari (every kind) are more allergic to chaos than any other race in the setting and they don't get corrupted but immediately eaten. So even the drukhari should bail if you start drawing 8 pointed stars.
@@jankodes197 i mean outside of imperialis and heriticus moral alignments there will be Benevolentia, which is pretty much the sensible good person route.
Thanks for this video, very happy to see a breakdown of the act 3 companions, and can't wait to play with Ulfar. I'll probably try to make the melee/ranged arch-militant work even if it's worse than just going single shot into burst.
@@SlanderedGaming You may want to post a link to this video on the subreddit, I think a lot of people would find it interesting, quite a bit of discussion about companions, this seems like the only video that goes into so much depth.
If he's anywhere near as overpowered as space marines are in tabletop RPG (which is to say, way closer to lore than to the war game), he's going to be a hard option to pass up.
Idirra works fine on daring with no investment in operative 'abilities'. Use 'talent' picks to gather operative talents, use 'common talent' to pick psyker talents, and use all ability selections to grab psker powers. Analyze, with exploit stacking + psychic scream is great. Get Adira the psyker range talent and veil stabilization talent as early common talent picks. Do not waste a 'talent' (class talents + common talents) pick on a 'common talent' (common talent only, includes psker talents). Pasqal is the only weird character where his mechanicus talents are not available from the 'common talent' list- making his balance for builds potentially the hardest.
My main Party in the latter stages was my Officer Rogue Trader, Cassia, Pasqal, Yrilet, Ulfar, and either Jae or Argenta. I only kept Pasqal on the Team for combat though because by endgame my Rogue Trader had a significant advantage in Tech Use skill
There is one. It's a button in the inventory screen, allows you to disable helmets and special backpacks (like with hellguns), and change clothes colors on your main char and mercenaries.
I made some notes while watching, here they are for your convenciece. Abelard (Tank) Imperial Naval Officer + TGH WS STR +Athletics +Master of Manoeuvre (+Spin around) +Ionoclast +get vanguard Idira (Range Psyker) unsanctioned +WP PER AGI +dodge -> no medium armor +awareness, demolition logic (+ Lore Warp if nobody else has it) +Exact Prediction +warp channelor (+ high tide) +heretic +operative (think about damage talents (bounty hunter) vs buff/debuff talents (grand stategist) Argenta (gunwoman) marksman + imperialis + BS PER AGI +second skin (NO PENALTY FOR MEDIUM ARMOR) +often out of cover +Awareness Demolition +Master cannonier (+lance reload) +Bolters are cool but flames are sick too +Power armor at some point +bounty hunter or arch militant Cassia (fish void waifu) navigator +WP PER FEL +Skill for PER for dodge +Lore Warp, Commerce, Awareness, Coercion +Master of aetheric (Leaking aether, determined scan) +hereticus +Psyker and navigator talents +Abilities who move enemies Pasqal +heavy armor reccomended (takes strength talent first) + WS (BS) INT PER + Awareness Logic, Tech Use and Lore (duh) medicae + Shield job for ship + imperialis Heinrix warrior psyker +imperial world +sanctioned psyker +WS AGI WP +Carrouse coercion demolition +leaking aether, lateral impact (ramming is not so good) +Biomancer +Melta ... SOON ...
@@SlanderedGaming don't listen to them! Beseech the ruinous powers of chaos for your wellbeing instead. They won't just keep you healthy, they'll make improvements!
I WAS thinking about building my Rogue Trader to go Operative into Bounty Hunter with the idea of pick one enemy and say "I dont want YOU to live anymore", before debuffing them or buffing myself to maximize damage then POP them for benefits. But with so many operatives in companions and likely being able to build the Eldar Sniper that way... might have to look at a different build for myself?
You also have to consider whether or not you want those Operatives in your party. If there's one you don't want then that provides an opening for you to play the class in that way.
I'll say this u can have 2 operatives in the party it isn't to bad to stack exploits. Only issue is if u add more you start losing out on other options
I love that Space Marines are a bit like tanks. Super tough and powerful but without support vulnerable to ambush and being overwhelmed. I like the idea of the Rogue Traders squad basically making that marine shine (play officer for max fun)
Yea, a bit of stuff in 40k RPG is if you're breaking open Deathwatch books, you're really asking for it... mostly due to Eacalation in the journey... this is a case of no kidding
@@SlanderedGaming well we had various WH novels like ciaphas cain series that featured romance in some capacity and also as the equivalent of imperial nobility basically as a rogue trader we have an "excuse" to indulge in such things
You only need Cassia. She is the best tank (literailly immune by both physical and magic attcks), best dps （largest aoe and no freidnly fire, and kill any boss, I mean any boss, in 2 rounds）.
Probably playing a guardsmen officer origin (don't like the astra militarum rename) with shooty/diplomatic stat spread on a first playthrough. Wondering if the game will have handheld heavy bolter, lascannon, multi melta options since those are usually only for devastator marines but one can hope.
Heavy weapons, when you don't have power armor to bear the weight and recoil, are normally either mounted on a vehicle or served by a crew on an emplacement.
@@SlanderedGaming Maybe be calling him trash was too harsh, I just think he is outclassed by Argenta and Pascal for that role. It isn't that he CAN'T do well, it's just that others do what he's capable of better. For a ranged slot he is also just a giant bullseye being so huge and not really having good defensive options. I was not able to find a good role for him in my party, I really hope he gets reworked for release because having a space marine that is just kinda average vs other party members seems so bizarre.
Great video and Indepth explanation for the companions! Well, what is the best choice/class for the main character? Officer? I wanted a Melee/Range character where I can go in or fall back depending on the situation. What would you suggest?
Did they really remove unnatural traits (multipliers)? Essentially would be handwaiving the magnitude of difference in stat differences that should be there, like eldar agility, ork toughness, and outlandish space marine qualities. /eyeroll
@@SlanderedGaming Well, okay then. Yea from what I've seen, this is looking so far from the tabletop... unfortunately. I get devs are looking for a kind of pacing/progression, but I'm cynical and reckon the redesign was to satiate a producers opinion on what will sell. The game would have been fine without touching much of the rule system - like BG3. Devs keep doing this kind of crap with warhammer titles. Stats are so convoluted in video games anymore. It's about a desired feeling for players than actually providing internal consistency. I digress though.
So looking at all these folks...yeah pretty sure I'll be going with just Abelard (CQC), Argenta (Ranged), Ulfar (Ranged), and Jae (Hottest Gal and Ranged) as I'll be making myself into a Melee Swordsman. The rest I'll just let them hang around the ship and help it stay flying.
@@SlanderedGaming I’m sure she would but after looking at the combat via a few more guides…as a LONG-time RTS gamer, it’d drive me crazy as to how SLOW the battles are. So I will not be getting the game. Sigh…disappointing…
I just wish using idira wasn't a double edged sword. She's got so much utility but that perils of the warp is such a pain. Does make for a fun randomness tho. Maybe not so fun the more I crank up the difficulty lol. Started at normal and it's way too easy, have gone up twice. Now it's feeling good.
Awesome video. Quick question, considering the npc companions available, what class and role would be the best fit for the main character, as to fill any obvious gaps in the party?
Do hope we get a corruption system, would be some good shit to turn everyone to the chaos gods... All of them have plenty of room to fit in that except maybe the eldar.
Had a quick check to see if you had an updated video but I don't see any other info in the team building one - there are 3 other possible party members :)
I did think you held them out for that reason but wasn't completely sure as even our Dark Eldar buddy isn't completely obvious to most people and is clearly mid/late act 3 but I take a step back and look forward to seeing the down the line version @@SlanderedGaming
Thanks for this excellent overview. Do characters gain XP even if not in your party or do you have to pick them for them to level up? Do you personally tend to always pick the same five, and if so who are they?
Characters gain XP while outside the party and which ones I choose depends on which disposition I am running. The party members for my imperialis and heretic runs are listed in the description for my videos covering both.
@@burgertime6372 Lol. Not really. In the Beta, the eldar did this, but there was a reason. And also, her char wasnt fleshed out much at that point. But, sure, kill her and lose second or third most op char in the roster. And, btw, she is better than spacemarine, de facto. There is unique pendant that gives +10 to all her skills and etc. Cassia is number one powerwise, obviously. In Beta it was: Cassia, SoB and Eldar as the most powerful depending on how you build them. The Dark Eldar, on other hand - it depends, mb he is mostly for Chaos players and such.
@@burgertime6372 lol. So, you want spoilers? Bc the reasons for it are spoilers. You group will end up with DE anyway, so its changes almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, from my pov. I only agree that at the time they should have handled this situation better in terms of storytelling. But, that was then, atm it should be better. And the reason was good even then. Also - if you think that the xeno ones are the only who will leave or betray you, well... i wouldnt be so optimistic. Depending on the choices and how you treat them, i suspect that certain others absolutely can backstab you at certain points in game, probably in the second half.
This is the video I have been waiting for - Thx Slandered! One question the Ship abilities/Talents do you get them free or do you need to buy them? ie forgo some combat abilities to get them.
Planning to do a benevolentia playthrough first, but the fact that so many characters have an imperial disposition is definetly stressful. I surehope i won't end up with only 2 companions by the endgame.
Unless you go full Chaos cultist I doubt they'll leave you. They'll just complain you're too soft or too tolerant but you're the Rogue Trader and that gives you a lot of leeway.
I can see myself playing around with mods to change Ulfar a bit. If he was an Ultramarine, I could see keeping him as a Marksman, but... I mean, c'mon, he's a Space Wolf. Why isn't he a Warrior?
@@SlanderedGaming Plus, hottake, an Ultramarine would have made more sense for the story since the only Traitor Marines I've seen so far are Word Bearers. I know the boys in blue are in EVERYTHING, but it would have made sense here. That, or have us fight the K-Sons
@@dnaseb9214 that vibe should be the marine won't work with you/tries to kill you. I hope they don't have a Space Marine be so pathetic he gets corrupted along with us.
WIth so many godamn options and flavors, I am really stuck in what to choose. A good problem to have, but I see no solution. Leaning towards some sort of a backline buffer, noble with officer, some sort of commisar? give extra turns to other minions. I am leaning to an all psyker team as well, including my main character? gosh I don't know
Surely they have balanced pascal since the beta? In the beta he just does all the skill based stuff so you don't even need the skills on anyone else. He has higher stats that anyone for pretty much all the stats
Have not seen it called out, but is there skills like lock pick and charm that we need to put into. And if so could you say which are common and which are very rare in the game.
Tech use helps open containers but has a lot of other uses as well. There are multiple conversation related skills. Persuasion is probably the most important one. This video reviews all the skills: th-cam.com/video/C8ju3bJa4jU/w-d-xo.html
I dont mind spoilers so if you are fine with it, can you tell me if recruiting the Eldar sniper will make any companion hate me? Im kinda expecting it given that she's a Xenos but I really want her in my team.
Hi, does anyone play on Console(Xbox) and is there a way to switch between party members during combat? I ONLY can alternate between the two party members(begining of the game) when i end the turn, then the enemy has his turn And after this my othe character has his turn. I can't find out how i switch between my two characters in combat in the same turn. Thanks in advanced for any help on this.
"I'm not particularly impressed by Dark Eldar armor but their weapons are nice." That pretty much tracks with how Dark Eldar are in the canon.
"Next on the list is Idira [...] she's an unsanctioned psyker which means" she'll get a bullet to the head at the earlierst moment the game allows me to.
I don't blame you! LMFAO
It does help you have many MANY tools, to see the Odyssey to the end, however many or few remain
A truth: Why personally dirty your hands, when many tools exist
Personally, I found it more satisfying to hand her over to the inquisition once I had no further need of her abilities.
Why? she is awesome!
@@MuppetLord1 In the FIRST THREE FIGHTS with her, she succeeded in BLOWING HERSELF UP EVERYTIME she used her veilbreaching powers... She's a bigger danger to the group than the enemy, and a waste of space if she can't use half her powers. And i say this playing a Sanctic psyker myself.
having a beta of the game this early is such a good deal for small channels. Pretty sure this is a welcomed boost in new subs and views ! Well done !
Yup definitely works for me! LOL
medicare mispelled into medicae
I want to thank Owlcat for giving me a playable drukhari comapnion. My favorite faction. And yes, Marazhai is a nice melee damage dealer and an interesting companion for evil playthrough
Yeah I find him pretty whimsical and fun. Also I was trying to figure out how tall he was meant to be from his character model a few days ago, so I googled ‘Marazhai height’ and the first result that came up was a comment on a Reddit thread describing him as “too tall for a traditional twink” so. Make of that what you will.
Found this channel a few videos ago, and I have to say, you do fantastic work.
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
Definitely gonna make a build guide for a Noble Officer/Abelard duo combo. I feel like it'll be both thematic and pretty powerful.
That's what I run for this last playthrough and it was GLORIOUS!
@@SlanderedGamingI did exactly that and my favorite part of the game is to tell Abelard to introduce me properly every time we meet someone, and it's hilarious. He's a good companion, character and overall just a good guy (by 40k standarts ofc)
Best bromance since Shepherd and Garrus.
I've been enjoying the break down videos (though I generally forget to comment as I listen at work but can't really stop to type) and it's good to hear that it sounds like you're doing better.
Yup slowly but surely I am getting there. Glad you have been enjoying the content. :)
Hey, just wanted to say thanks for doing this breakdown - trying to work out how stats and builds work in a new game is always my least favourite part of getting into them, but once you’ve gotten it figured out the game becomes so much fun, so content like this is a godsend when I’m about to play something for the first time.
(You also coincidentally seem to have pretty much exactly the same taste in games as me, so I’m very much enjoying the fact that I’ve gotten to benefit from your coverage so much recently )
Got a little overwhelmed by all the skills, abilities, talents and the like so a medium length video like this is great for somebody like me, who isn't even level 10 yet.
Glad you found it helpful!
21:28 I don't understand why Owlcat changed Jae to an Officer. She was a Marksman in the Alpha and given her Gunslinger and various proficiencies with Ranged weapons it should've stayed that way.
Yup I agree.
100% agree. Wanna play officer and also have Casia so poor Jay will never see the inside of the squad
@@20storiesunder you can play as 2 officers -tactical masters and endlessly give each other some short turns with some talents :D
And with cassias talent of +5 willpower per extra turn...Oh my@@hirdbarding3399
I think it's cause there is a lack of officers
I mean for example there are 2 operatives u can get in the first chapter idira and the omnisiah dude
Owlcat Studio's games are always jarring to get into, and with WH40K rulesets being incorporated, it's mad confusing.
Great video. Honestly helped me clear Act 1 in a breeze on Unfair difficulty. Keep up the great work man!
Man Heinrix has the exact build I was planning on using. I wanna use him but I also want to avoid redundancy so it looks like I’ll have to rethink my MC’s build.
There's room on the team for two of that type of build because having more frontline fighters helps.
I've seen a lot of people saying things about Marazhai like "I can fix him." Meanwhile I'm like "ISTG if he's a monster like Camellia from Wrath of the Righteous, then I'm killing him on every playthrough." All the other companions like great 👍
Feeding upon the psychic residue of suffering is the only way dark eldars can stave off the slow consumption by the Chaos God Slaanesh of their own souls. "Fixing" Marazhai would mean his soul would be eaten by an eldritch abomination, suffering for all eternity.
@@jackylepecheurno mercy or pity for filthy Xenos!
@@jackylepecheurNot really. Dark Eldar and regular Eldar are able to transition into the other culture. Dark Eldar aren’t a separate race, they’re just a different culture.
It’s very possible for a Dark Eldar to give up their ways, join a Craftworld, and be given a spirit stone to no longer need to feed off suffering.
Dark Eldar are very much a separate race, not just a culture. They have greatly diminished psychic aptitude and more developed physical attributes. Even their basic psychic essence is completely different. Craftworlders are more resigned and hopeless, Drukhari are frantic and unstable.
@@jackylepecheur Dark Eldar are fully capable of abandoning their ways and joining their cousins on a Craftworld, Exodite Planet, or become a Harlequin.
Very sad there isn't some sort of Ork you could manage to recruit. Such as a Blood axe - Orks that willingly hire themselves out to non-ork forces or an Ork suffering some sort of head trauma that gains higher cognitive function or something similar to that :|
I think that will be a DLC.
If we get a DLC companion an Ork would be on the short list of potential ones.
I keep hearing about Orks so I hope at some point we are introduced to one.
I like the idea of a Blood Axe Ork that sees enlisting in the Imperium as a non-stop party.
An Ork companion via DLC would be awesome we could also add a Tau to that even if I'm more likely to shoot them over the Ork and while very unlikely I'd love a Necron Companion something like an exiled Cryptark or a disgraced minor Lord. Though the true cherry on top at least for me would be a chance to 'trade' Ulfar for a Thousand Sons Sorcerer if you went heretical.
Thanks for the video! Super informative without really any heavy spoilers
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic video, thank you, it is exactly what i wished for. All the info on companions we all needed.
My pleasure!
Cassia is hereticus?! That's a big change from the earlier beta and kind of odd when you considered how sheltered a life she led before meeting you.
Imperium culture is taught. Cassia has been allowed to always basically do what she wants and that's pretty heretical by Imperium standards.
We must bring her to the light of the emperor ( which she already see when in the warp)
Kill the mutant. Burn the heretic. Purge the unclean.
I hope Cassia is squeaky-clean at least😅.
She isn't a hereticus this has already been confirmed as accident for streamer version. She will be back to imperialis on release.
@@sasha9796that's good i love my sweet somewhat crazy cutie
This is really helpful, thanks so much. Also, your diction, voice and presentation skills deserve admiration. Well done, sir!
Thank you!
I turned Argenta into a heavy bolter-heavy flamer Archmilitant. She is basically unstoppable, had to respec her once to drop melta weapon proficiency to pick up second skin but otherwise if you focus on her abilities and skills with a bolter and a flamer you can turn her into an absolute monster, probably THE most powerful ranged combatant imo.
I use one handed flamers and energy wepons and it's pretty cool too.
Yrliet is strong as well if built properly, I have 400+ hp shots in early act 2
Thanks bro! Super useful, I hope you are going to hit this game hard with your typically thorough and well thought out hot takes, reviews, commentary, etc. Really looking forward to this one.
That's definitely the plan! Glad you enjoyed the content.
Thanks for this. Really helpful as I plan my team before release! Hoping to watch your archetype videos soon.
Glad it was helpful!
You'll need to make an updated guide for the release version as there are a ton of changes which subtly change how you'd upgrade in your Archtype wheel. For example, for Abelard you only really need a base of 45 Strength to unlock Heavy Armour so you only ever need to get 5+ Strength once at the start of the game; After that you want to go full Toughness, you can also get insanely high Parry that scales off Toughness and Armour using Thick Skin and with Heavy Armour it just adds even more Parry, as well as additional Deflection stacks with him now from other Talents, so focus on that too. Get Taunting Scream and any type of ability which scales off Toughness and Damage Retaliation such as Sworn Enemy - which is useful against a boss or scary stuff like Necrons.
I also went full Divination Idira which benefits from her +1 to Psy level including her passive which removes the enemy's ability to land critical strikes and her buffs provide additional bonuses as you can build her to fully fill her in story role now which is awesome.
I built Heinrix with a mindset to replicate a Retribution Paladin from WoW approach, which is psychic powers which debuff enemies or boost damage to super charge attacks and support the tank which is usually Abelard. I never really picked any of his Warrior abilities or talents, didn't need to, all his Biomancy stuff is good enough and better when pared with Abelard or Ulfar.
I am going to make guides for all the party members which will definitely cover some of the updates.
Thank you for the break down and suggestions on light builds.
My pleasure!
This video was exactly what I was looking for. Excellent
Awesome glad you enjoyed it!
Most notable bottom lines:
There is only 1 single companion focused on intelligence in act 1 (Tech Priest) so if youre not bringing him you kinda have to go int.
One of the 2 available warriors is a Psyker and stacking psykers isnt great due to warp shenanigans so if you want to bring 2 warriors and Indira - MC should roll a warrior.
Unfortunately it seems that most companions get more interesting features than the main character - basically the opposite of Wrath.
Regarding point two, having Cassia helps a lot in that regard. Her talent helps keep veil levels low.
@@SlanderedGaming that definitely helps, but i feel like Cassia has sooo many good talents to choose :O
I mean, it's Act 1. By the time you have more companions than slots, the act is about to be over.
Psyker veil meter isn't that harsh tbh, evne moreso if you have one of the veil reduction talents on Cassia or a psyker. Like 9/10 times I've gotten Perils it was because Idira did another fucky-wucky, not because I pushed the veil meter up into the danger zone.
@@magni5648 Psyker veil meter isnt consistent. In some fights its fine but in some others you really dont get much room to play with (or none at all for that matter - gl having 2 dead characters).
Also some abilities you dont get in act 1 like indira using heroic psy lightning cost A LOT.
@@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash There's a couple fights with the veil already damaged, but it's overall not a big deal in my experience. Also, I don't evne use the lightning that much. Idira is there to buff and snipe form the backline.
I like the systematic approach to the breakdown.
Thank you!
Will be interesting to see which companions you can keep if you decide to go the heretic route, being able to turn the space marine or sister of battle into a traitor would be a cool if possible.
Yup I am really looking forward to finding out!
Is it possible to just not be total imperialist douche - I am all for protecting from warp demons and gods, but don't need to hate all xenos.
The thing is Aeldari (every kind) are more allergic to chaos than any other race in the setting and they don't get corrupted but immediately eaten. So even the drukhari should bail if you start drawing 8 pointed stars.
Speaking of which wonder what is going to be the point of no return
@@jankodes197 i mean outside of imperialis and heriticus moral alignments there will be Benevolentia, which is pretty much the sensible good person route.
Thanks for this video, very happy to see a breakdown of the act 3 companions, and can't wait to play with Ulfar. I'll probably try to make the melee/ranged arch-militant work even if it's worse than just going single shot into burst.
Awesome. Whatever is fun for you. :)
@@SlanderedGaming You may want to post a link to this video on the subreddit, I think a lot of people would find it interesting, quite a bit of discussion about companions, this seems like the only video that goes into so much depth.
Your doing the God-Emperors work Slandered my man
The emperor protects brother!
Thank you!
Bruh, you saying that most player won't have Ulfar in the team is hilarious to me. I'm sure most 40k fans gonna pick that dude up ASAP.
Space Marines are by far one of the most popular parts of 40k. He will for sure be made a part of lots of players' main team.
If he's anywhere near as overpowered as space marines are in tabletop RPG (which is to say, way closer to lore than to the war game), he's going to be a hard option to pass up.
No said that about Marakhai not Ulfar. Ulfar is absolutely a must have. LOL
Oh lol, my bad@@SlanderedGaming
As a proud Thousand Son the Space Wolf dies
I would like a kroot in the next DLC, they are so underrated and whats better for some recognition that a Rogue Trader
Idirra works fine on daring with no investment in operative 'abilities'. Use 'talent' picks to gather operative talents, use 'common talent' to pick psyker talents, and use all ability selections to grab psker powers.
Analyze, with exploit stacking + psychic scream is great. Get Adira the psyker range talent and veil stabilization talent as early common talent picks.
Do not waste a 'talent' (class talents + common talents) pick on a 'common talent' (common talent only, includes psker talents).
Pasqal is the only weird character where his mechanicus talents are not available from the 'common talent' list- making his balance for builds potentially the hardest.
Nice video, now I'm entering hype mode and starting to theorycraft my comps for runs xD
Have fun!
My main Party in the latter stages was my Officer Rogue Trader, Cassia, Pasqal, Yrilet, Ulfar, and either Jae or Argenta. I only kept Pasqal on the Team for combat though because by endgame my Rogue Trader had a significant advantage in Tech Use skill
They need to add hide helmet option.
Real badasses fight without Helmets
😂
There is one. It's a button in the inventory screen, allows you to disable helmets and special backpacks (like with hellguns), and change clothes colors on your main char and mercenaries.
People who enjoy shrapnel and disfigurement also don’t wear helmets
I made some notes while watching, here they are for your convenciece.
Abelard (Tank) Imperial Naval Officer
+ TGH WS STR
+Athletics
+Master of Manoeuvre (+Spin around)
+Ionoclast
+get vanguard
Idira (Range Psyker) unsanctioned
+WP PER AGI
+dodge -> no medium armor
+awareness, demolition logic
(+ Lore Warp if nobody else has it)
+Exact Prediction
+warp channelor (+ high tide)
+heretic
+operative (think about damage talents (bounty hunter) vs buff/debuff talents (grand stategist)
Argenta (gunwoman) marksman
+ imperialis
+ BS PER AGI
+second skin (NO PENALTY FOR MEDIUM ARMOR)
+often out of cover
+Awareness Demolition
+Master cannonier (+lance reload)
+Bolters are cool but flames are sick too
+Power armor at some point
+bounty hunter or arch militant
Cassia (fish void waifu) navigator
+WP PER FEL
+Skill for PER for dodge
+Lore Warp, Commerce, Awareness, Coercion
+Master of aetheric (Leaking aether, determined scan)
+hereticus
+Psyker and navigator talents
+Abilities who move enemies
Pasqal
+heavy armor reccomended (takes strength talent first)
+ WS (BS) INT PER
+ Awareness Logic, Tech Use and Lore (duh) medicae
+ Shield job for ship
+ imperialis
Heinrix warrior psyker
+imperial world
+sanctioned psyker
+WS AGI WP
+Carrouse coercion demolition
+leaking aether, lateral impact (ramming is not so good)
+Biomancer
+Melta
... SOON ...
Thanks!
He's a Drukhari
"KILL IT WITH FIRE"
😂😂
Nah, i'd love to have a drukhari party to torture my enemies
finally a game that adheres to the ridiculous complex nature of warhammer, man!
May the Emperor give you good health Slandered.
Thank you I appreciate it!
@@SlanderedGaming don't listen to them! Beseech the ruinous powers of chaos for your wellbeing instead. They won't just keep you healthy, they'll make improvements!
Love the Admech Guy is called a really human name from our Millenium
😂
Player, Idira, Cassia, Heinrix is 4 psyker’s, I think we can have a good wych coven going
Cassia is a Navigator which is a Mutant, not a psyker, but still would probably be considered a wych so you are good. LOL
Hope thhey add the option to recruit a kroot carnivore.
I WAS thinking about building my Rogue Trader to go Operative into Bounty Hunter with the idea of pick one enemy and say "I dont want YOU to live anymore", before debuffing them or buffing myself to maximize damage then POP them for benefits. But with so many operatives in companions and likely being able to build the Eldar Sniper that way... might have to look at a different build for myself?
You also have to consider whether or not you want those Operatives in your party. If there's one you don't want then that provides an opening for you to play the class in that way.
@@SlanderedGaming That certainly is true. I'll have to rewatch the video and maybe some other build videos to try to decide.
I'll say this u can have 2 operatives in the party it isn't to bad to stack exploits. Only issue is if u add more you start losing out on other options
Somehow I missed this video, glad I've found it.
I've got a lot of content coming out so it's easy to miss videos. LOL
I wish our origin had more content. Visiting the hive world where i was a crime lord would have been super cool as a mission or something.
Yup hopefully they expand this in ROgue Trader 2
Most likely there will be mods or update to respec companions, some feels like they should/could be using some others base archetypes.
Yup I am sure there will be.
This is such an amazingly useful guide. Thanks!
You're very welcome!
Very useful and comprehensive, thanks!
My pleasure!
A bit surprised you can get a Space Marine as a companion. Lore wise he would be a 1 man army and who needs cover when you are the walking cover.
He feels like a one man army but the game also ramps up the difficulty of encounters you face after recruiting him.
I love that Space Marines are a bit like tanks. Super tough and powerful but without support vulnerable to ambush and being overwhelmed. I like the idea of the Rogue Traders squad basically making that marine shine (play officer for max fun)
You've already killed heretic astartes before you even meet Ulfar.
Rogue Traders can have pacts with some orders and they can have honour guard.
Yea, a bit of stuff in 40k RPG is if you're breaking open Deathwatch books, you're really asking for it... mostly due to Eacalation in the journey... this is a case of no kidding
I wish there had been more romance options
Odds are they will add some via DLC- you know, you just *_know_* (or well, I do) there's some memelord on the crew who's going to add a Tau waifu😆
Me too but I understand it doesn't really fit with the Warhammer universe.
@@SlanderedGaming well we had various WH novels like ciaphas cain series that featured romance in some capacity and also as the equivalent of imperial nobility basically as a rogue trader we have an "excuse" to indulge in such things
@@kmel3588 Of course, but I guess certain options will likely be unavailable due to lore reasons. Who knows though? An expansion might add one or two.
When there is the emperors light to love that is enough
Jae + Cassia = my RT’s 2nd and 3rd turn every round. My RT is an absolute savage so that’s the end of most fights 😎
Nice that's an awesome combo.
I love the eldar so much, this is so sick. I’m a lil sad there are no tau, but there’ll likely be mods for this.
Owlcat plans to add another party member as DLC but I cannot remember if they are Xenos.
I hope Marazhai is not like Camellia. She was a monster as well, yes, but i hope it will be the only thing they share. She was annoying af.
Nah the relationship feels different. Doesn't mean you'll like it though. LOL
Well, he is a murderhobo. After all, he is a drukhari. But yes, there is some reasons why he is doing that, not just "im a psycho"
Its a shame Ulfar is so late, So I think I will run with Abelard, Idira, Jae. and my self for the party core the other two I will rotate around,
Yeah wish we got him earlier but it does make getting him feel more special.
This was a great and very helpful video, thanks!
My pleasure!
Sounds complicated. Cheers for the breakdown.
You only need Cassia. She is the best tank (literailly immune by both physical and magic attcks), best dps （largest aoe and no freidnly fire, and kill any boss, I mean any boss, in 2 rounds）.
Probably playing a guardsmen officer origin (don't like the astra militarum rename) with shooty/diplomatic stat spread on a first playthrough. Wondering if the game will have handheld heavy bolter, lascannon, multi melta options since those are usually only for devastator marines but one can hope.
Nice. I seem to remember when the Alpha came out at least one multi melta option was confirmed.
Heavy weapons, when you don't have power armor to bear the weight and recoil, are normally either mounted on a vehicle or served by a crew on an emplacement.
I really hope what we saw of Ulfar in the beta was just because he wasn't complete. He was trash, which was such a weird thing for a Space Marine.
I wouldn't call him trash but it's weird he's so ranged focued.
@@SlanderedGaming Maybe be calling him trash was too harsh, I just think he is outclassed by Argenta and Pascal for that role. It isn't that he CAN'T do well, it's just that others do what he's capable of better. For a ranged slot he is also just a giant bullseye being so huge and not really having good defensive options. I was not able to find a good role for him in my party, I really hope he gets reworked for release because having a space marine that is just kinda average vs other party members seems so bizarre.
It's sad that 0 AP knife is gone, i liked having infinite damage
Yeah I miss it a wee bit. LOL
Abby-Don, the Battlegrandpa who can solo chaos space marines, is the only s tier. I put argenta and cassia in A tier and the rest are just whatever.
Cassia is ABSOLUTELY S Tier. She can wipe out seven enemies with the click of a button.
Great video and Indepth explanation for the companions! Well, what is the best choice/class for the main character? Officer? I wanted a Melee/Range character where I can go in or fall back depending on the situation. What would you suggest?
I went with an Officer sniper and definitely didn't regret it.
Great work, can't wait for the game!
Thank you! I am also very excited!
Did they really remove unnatural traits (multipliers)?
Essentially would be handwaiving the magnitude of difference in stat differences that should be there, like eldar agility, ork toughness, and outlandish space marine qualities. /eyeroll
I don't know anything about tabletop mechanics but no haven't seen anything about those kinds of traits.
@@SlanderedGaming Well, okay then. Yea from what I've seen, this is looking so far from the tabletop... unfortunately. I get devs are looking for a kind of pacing/progression, but I'm cynical and reckon the redesign was to satiate a producers opinion on what will sell. The game would have been fine without touching much of the rule system - like BG3. Devs keep doing this kind of crap with warhammer titles. Stats are so convoluted in video games anymore. It's about a desired feeling for players than actually providing internal consistency. I digress though.
About Heinrix, even though he is an Imperialis, it seems he can be swayed to Bene given the right options. Don't know about Heretic.
Interesting I kind of got that feeling as well.
@@SlanderedGaming it was hinted in Forge World where you can convince him to spare the Mechanicus
So looking at all these folks...yeah pretty sure I'll be going with just Abelard (CQC), Argenta (Ranged), Ulfar (Ranged), and Jae (Hottest Gal and Ranged) as I'll be making myself into a Melee Swordsman. The rest I'll just let them hang around the ship and help it stay flying.
Pound for pound mechanically, Cassia is the best party member in the game. She will fit in very well with your gorup.
@@SlanderedGaming I’m sure she would but after looking at the combat via a few more guides…as a LONG-time RTS gamer, it’d drive me crazy as to how SLOW the battles are. So I will not be getting the game. Sigh…disappointing…
I just wish using idira wasn't a double edged sword. She's got so much utility but that perils of the warp is such a pain. Does make for a fun randomness tho. Maybe not so fun the more I crank up the difficulty lol. Started at normal and it's way too easy, have gone up twice. Now it's feeling good.
My commisar did not approve of Jae or the Xenos being in his ship. They shan't serve me so they served in the firing line
Awesome video. Quick question, considering the npc companions available, what class and role would be the best fit for the main character, as to fill any obvious gaps in the party?
I like Officer best since it helps the team and frees Cassia up to focus on being a Navigator.
Do hope we get a corruption system, would be some good shit to turn everyone to the chaos gods...
All of them have plenty of room to fit in that except maybe the eldar.
My understanding is some of them can be corrupted but others cannot.
Had a quick check to see if you had an updated video but I don't see any other info in the team building one - there are 3 other possible party members :)
I know but it'd be spoilers to bring them up. Later down the line I'll have a party member ranking video where I go through all of them.
I did think you held them out for that reason but wasn't completely sure as even our Dark Eldar buddy isn't completely obvious to most people and is clearly mid/late act 3 but I take a step back and look forward to seeing the down the line version
@@SlanderedGaming
Thanks for this excellent overview. Do characters gain XP even if not in your party or do you have to pick them for them to level up? Do you personally tend to always pick the same five, and if so who are they?
Characters gain XP while outside the party and which ones I choose depends on which disposition I am running. The party members for my imperialis and heretic runs are listed in the description for my videos covering both.
My man, i love your vids. Thanks!
Thank you!
I so can't decide on my first party comp and character build
I'll do builds and party comp videos before the game comes out. :)
I remember hearing that the eldar betrays you in the beta. Honestly not sure if theres any reason not to kill xenos companions on sight tbh
There isn't: kill the Xenos, scrutinize the Psyker, punish the Heretic, and abhor the Mutant.
@@3rdtimesthecharm376 SO true
@@burgertime6372
Lol. Not really. In the Beta, the eldar did this, but there was a reason. And also, her char wasnt fleshed out much at that point. But, sure, kill her and lose second or third most op char in the roster. And, btw, she is better than spacemarine, de facto. There is unique pendant that gives +10 to all her skills and etc. Cassia is number one powerwise, obviously. In Beta it was: Cassia, SoB and Eldar as the most powerful depending on how you build them. The Dark Eldar, on other hand - it depends, mb he is mostly for Chaos players and such.
@@shadowhuntertheoriginal3073 iirc, she betrays you to the dark eldar. Absolutely unreasonable and unforgivable.
@@burgertime6372
lol. So, you want spoilers? Bc the reasons for it are spoilers. You group will end up with DE anyway, so its changes almost nothing in the grand scheme of things, from my pov. I only agree that at the time they should have handled this situation better in terms of storytelling. But, that was then, atm it should be better. And the reason was good even then. Also - if you think that the xeno ones are the only who will leave or betray you, well... i wouldnt be so optimistic. Depending on the choices and how you treat them, i suspect that certain others absolutely can backstab you at certain points in game, probably in the second half.
There is still supposed to be a Chaos companion or two as well.
Wow really? Okay cool I haven't done a Chaos run yet so haven't found them. That's pretty awesome.
Where'd you learn this?
@@Liberates I assume it's gonna be like their last game. The Wrath of The Righteous. The Lich and Swarm That Walks has secret companions.
@NVMemes4Liberty Ah ok thanks and the ending of the companions trailer sounded ominous too like there are more companions that they didn't show.
This is the video I have been waiting for - Thx Slandered! One question the Ship abilities/Talents do you get them free or do you need to buy them? ie forgo some combat abilities to get them.
Glad you enjoyed the video. Ship talents come free.
Planning to do a benevolentia playthrough first, but the fact that so many characters have an imperial disposition is definetly stressful. I surehope i won't end up with only 2 companions by the endgame.
Unless you go full Chaos cultist I doubt they'll leave you. They'll just complain you're too soft or too tolerant but you're the Rogue Trader and that gives you a lot of leeway.
Nah it's not a problem at all. My first run was Benevolentia and none of my party members left even though they thought I was soft as butter. LOL
@@SlanderedGaming good to know.
I hope they make a dlc of the greater good I think tau an eldar really give me the rouge trader vibe
It will be interesting to see what DLC comes out for the game.
I find so funny and ironic that the 2 characters that have benevolentia are also proficient in Drukhari weapons LMAO
I didn't even notice that but you are right. LOL
drukhari and humans like what? Chef-cook and his dinner?🤣
😂
I can see myself playing around with mods to change Ulfar a bit. If he was an Ultramarine, I could see keeping him as a Marksman, but... I mean, c'mon, he's a Space Wolf. Why isn't he a Warrior?
LOL yeah it's an interesting choice by Owlcat. Maybe it will make more sense when we hear more of his story.
@@SlanderedGaming Plus, hottake, an Ultramarine would have made more sense for the story since the only Traitor Marines I've seen so far are Word Bearers. I know the boys in blue are in EVERYTHING, but it would have made sense here. That, or have us fight the K-Sons
Space Wolf Scout Marines taking Rifles to their problem as well as Devs makes me wonder myself, not alone
idira straight to the inquisition
Great video, thank you. Also, I'm gonna be that guy. Carouse is pronounced kah-rouz not kah-roos
Thank you I didn't know that!
8:55 Damn that's cold 😳
Can the space marine become a chaos space marine ?
If yes, can he dedicate himself to a specific chaos god ? I would love a pleague champion
I don't think so but haven't had enough conversations with him to tell.
@@SlanderedGaming
I hope so, just to complete the heretic vibe for a heretic playthru
@@dnaseb9214 that vibe should be the marine won't work with you/tries to kill you. I hope they don't have a Space Marine be so pathetic he gets corrupted along with us.
@@Michael-bn1oi
It can be a very hard to get outcome with a lot of cryptic and hidden stuff to do to unlock.
WIth so many godamn options and flavors, I am really stuck in what to choose. A good problem to have, but I see no solution.
Leaning towards some sort of a backline buffer, noble with officer, some sort of commisar? give extra turns to other minions.
I am leaning to an all psyker team as well, including my main character?
gosh I don't know
I'll do some team composition videos at some point and that might help you out. :)
The important question: Can you romance the eldar?
..asking for a friend.
Pretty sure you can but I haven't tried it.
We must turn all potential heretics toward the Emperor's Light with our love and Plasteel abs.
Why should the knife-eared Ranger mingle with the RT MC without spitting the word mon-keigh at him/her 24/7?
Surely they have balanced pascal since the beta? In the beta he just does all the skill based stuff so you don't even need the skills on anyone else. He has higher stats that anyone for pretty much all the stats
Nope Intelligence is still king. A lot of the other skills are useful too though.
Have not seen it called out, but is there skills like lock pick and charm that we need to put into. And if so could you say which are common and which are very rare in the game.
Tech use helps open containers but has a lot of other uses as well. There are multiple conversation related skills. Persuasion is probably the most important one. This video reviews all the skills: th-cam.com/video/C8ju3bJa4jU/w-d-xo.html
A lot of these is sadly already outdated as the builds of the followers changed a lot in the release version of the game
very well presented
when theres a will theres a way i read a bit about him theres a small chance with patience he might chill out a little bit
marazai i definitly plan on trying to recruit him ngl
Nice looking forward to seeing that in a benevolentia run.
Love the portrait you're using, is that in game or custom?
It's actually in game.
Cassia is Hereticus? I hope me plannin' on being hardline Imperialias isn't going to get in the way of any love-makin'.
In the background footage Cassia was listed as Imperialis alignment so she's able to be influenced by the player.
She can be influenced so it shouldn't be a problem.
You can recruit a Drukhari, but not a Greenskin or neutral Alien Species?
Yup seems like it.
@@SlanderedGaming That's fuckin' goofy.
@@ShadowWolfRising What's a problem with a drukhari?
Hey question, can I play as a space marine or its just the 1 companion?
It's just the companion. You play as a Rogue Trader.
@@SlanderedGaming that sucks :p, I really want to play as a space marine!
Nice videos man! =)
Thank you! Glad you are enjoying them!
I dont mind spoilers so if you are fine with it, can you tell me if recruiting the Eldar sniper will make any companion hate me? Im kinda expecting it given that she's a Xenos but I really want her in my team.
Nah they just hate her they don't hate you.
Hi, does anyone play on Console(Xbox) and is there a way to switch between party members during combat? I ONLY can alternate between the two party members(begining of the game) when i end the turn, then the enemy has his turn And after this my othe character has his turn. I can't find out how i switch between my two characters in combat in the same turn. Thanks in advanced for any help on this.
Characters have their turn one at a time. It's not like BG3 where you can switch between them as you please.