Thank you for watching! If you have any questions, please let me know! ⚠ (4/1/24 EDIT : The "22.8k" from Cinder's damage shown in the video at 3:30 used 2 burning ticks, not 1. Using 1 tick, its about 19.7k. The difference between the two shown sets is a tiny bit smaller, but the point is the same. Nothing changes. Thank you again for watching! 🙏) ➡Twitch: www.twitch.tv/the_gameroom
Cinders actually follow NB relentlessly and can pop them out of stealth. There is also another set that does this, Morkuldin craftable set also pops them out too.
One thing I don't get in your 3 in 1 example from 4:15: you are showing a gank using an already fully charged merciless resolve, but how do you have it already charged in real pvp since even if you charge it before the gank on mobs (in imp city for example) it gets resetted when you switch your target on a player? Btw, what outfit do you use on 2:10? Looks awesome.
Hi Rares! What do you mean exactly? Your stacks shouldnt reset from enemy to enemy. The stacks are on you, not them, so you can sit on them for as long as you need until you are ready to use it.
@@Dooma I know it should work like you say, but did you try it in Imperial city? That's how it works for me there, seems like you lose the stacks when you get out of combat. In pve the stacks remain on you, but in pvp you lose them.
I are you positive that you are in range for the ability to be used on a player? If you are farming pve mobs, building stacks, then turn to a player who is out of range, it will drop the "glowing" effect from the button, until you are actually in range of a player and targeting them. But the buff is still there. I am in IC fairly regularly and I just spent most of the pvp event there (on the NB) and didnt experience this. What you are explaining isnt how the ability is supposed to work.
Im using anthelmires, tarnished, shattered fate on sorc i want to drop shattered for another proc but not too sure on what to use as i need something thats instant damage
@@orrinsteadwick6538 shattered/orders wrath will be good but best will be winterborn / coral riptide i think. Could do calurions/winterborn for a proc based build that can still be fully ranged i think ill try that or still try tarnished after update
Love the Outfit. Love seeing that you jumped in and tested it all together. I personally love all 3 sets. Especially when running with a 2h DK using Cinders and FlameBlossom. Makes the combination of Stampede mixed with Proxcimty bomb very naughty indeed! Love all the work you do my friend. Cant wait to see more!
Hi Letmewin! It has been a while since I really picked that apart. I looked it up for you and here is a recent reddit post where someone had the same question and people gave some set options: www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/18nlc3s/base_game_sets/
I have been absolutely cooked by Tarnished + Anthlemir + X. Dead in quarter second before visuals happened lol. I think a lot can work for X there. Zos doesnt typically leave 0 ttk things in the game super long, so I would say get on it now if you like that type of thing and enjoy it while it lasts. (It may also be around forever. The old Caluurians gank set ups lasted actual years. But they still in general try to clean up 0 ttk things from what I have seen.) Just in case ttk is a new term for you. TTK is "Time To Kill." It's a metric used for lots of things to help balance the health of combat. You hear it more often in FPS games. Very generally speaking: A low ttk means damage is too high and tankiness/healing is too low and a high ttk means damage is too low and tankiness/healing too high. (so "zero ttk" means getting globaled/killed instantly basically). So when you have an environment in ESO where the pvp landscape is outrageously tanky with high healing, and a set up slips in and makes waves like what you said above, it gets attention.
@@Flaxko-97 I can't say from personal experience for sure because I havent tried it. I just know I've been blown up quite a lot by 2x-3x proc ganks, and Anthlemir + Tarnished has been a staple in that mix quite often.
Quite a few people are using Tarnished for add clear in dungeon content and what not from what I have heard. I tested it and on the dummy it isnt as much single target or aoe damage as say Pillar of Nirn, but in content & difficulty levels where entire trash packs die in just a few globals, Tarnished may be a bit more ideal since all of its damage is upfront.
@@ViiViiDvTx Oh wow that’s even nastier lmao. We were just messing with that in Discord today after you told me about it. At ~7k wd/sd and ~30k max resource, the slinger tooltip was 34k over 5 seconds. If it’s direct damage (didn’t check) then you add corrosive pen to that. You could line up some chunky burst windows. That is a lot of pressure if it can track 1 target (didn’t get to mess with that either.) The wildest part about it is that is an 8s proc. So there are only 3-4 globals of downtime and it’s back up again for 5 globals. If it performs as good as it looks on paper, on the right set up it could be a lot of fun. Thanks again for sharing this.
Tarnished I dont believe so if you are the one who received the proc (not hit by the aoe). Cinders is proximity based, so its a little different. You may be able to dodge roll it, I will have to check.
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Thank you for watching! If you have any questions, please let me know! ⚠ (4/1/24 EDIT : The "22.8k" from Cinder's damage shown in the video at 3:30 used 2 burning ticks, not 1. Using 1 tick, its about 19.7k. The difference between the two shown sets is a tiny bit smaller, but the point is the same. Nothing changes. Thank you again for watching! 🙏)
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Cinders actually follow NB relentlessly and can pop them out of stealth. There is also another set that does this, Morkuldin craftable set also pops them out too.
Awesome! Thanks for letting me know. I didn't know it followed in stealth, that's great haha.
I use cinders with tarnished on my onebar ganker works really well lol
Im trying oakfarther and cinder with flamedamage on a bow nb,well if they use oakensoul its just goodnight 😂
One thing I don't get in your 3 in 1 example from 4:15: you are showing a gank using an already fully charged merciless resolve, but how do you have it already charged in real pvp since even if you charge it before the gank on mobs (in imp city for example) it gets resetted when you switch your target on a player?
Btw, what outfit do you use on 2:10? Looks awesome.
Hi Rares! What do you mean exactly? Your stacks shouldnt reset from enemy to enemy. The stacks are on you, not them, so you can sit on them for as long as you need until you are ready to use it.
@@Dooma I know it should work like you say, but did you try it in Imperial city? That's how it works for me there, seems like you lose the stacks when you get out of combat. In pve the stacks remain on you, but in pvp you lose them.
I are you positive that you are in range for the ability to be used on a player? If you are farming pve mobs, building stacks, then turn to a player who is out of range, it will drop the "glowing" effect from the button, until you are actually in range of a player and targeting them. But the buff is still there. I am in IC fairly regularly and I just spent most of the pvp event there (on the NB) and didnt experience this. What you are explaining isnt how the ability is supposed to work.
Is that youre oakansoul build for pvp ? What it your exact rotation ?
Any thoughts on Oakenfather?
An awful lot of Oakensoul running around PVP.
I personally am not using it for any current builds but I have seen some people doing very well with it. Not the hugest fan of the inconsistency.
Im using anthelmires, tarnished, shattered fate on sorc i want to drop shattered for another proc but not too sure on what to use as i need something thats instant damage
did you find anything good? ive been looking for another proc set since tarnished is getting nerfed
@@orrinsteadwick6538 shattered/orders wrath will be good but best will be winterborn / coral riptide i think. Could do calurions/winterborn for a proc based build that can still be fully ranged i think ill try that or still try tarnished after update
Short version:Bye Bye Blossom, Welcome Cinders!
Haha yessir! 💪 Cinders just seems to be a much better version of Blossom now.
How about using both 💀
I am experimenting with that now haha. It's looking like there are some crafty new ganking set ups coming up. 😀
Love the Outfit. Love seeing that you jumped in and tested it all together. I personally love all 3 sets. Especially when running with a 2h DK using Cinders and FlameBlossom. Makes the combination of Stampede mixed with Proxcimty bomb very naughty indeed! Love all the work you do my friend. Cant wait to see more!
Thank you for the kind words Cooking, I hope this helped some!
@@Dooma Have you tried Cinders with your other favorite set, Unfathomable Darkness? Possibly on your recent DK build?
Any suggestions for base game pvp sets. Am magika dk dark elf
Hi Letmewin! It has been a while since I really picked that apart. I looked it up for you and here is a recent reddit post where someone had the same question and people gave some set options: www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/18nlc3s/base_game_sets/
So will tarnished cinder moth an anthlemir construct work?
I have been absolutely cooked by Tarnished + Anthlemir + X. Dead in quarter second before visuals happened lol. I think a lot can work for X there. Zos doesnt typically leave 0 ttk things in the game super long, so I would say get on it now if you like that type of thing and enjoy it while it lasts. (It may also be around forever. The old Caluurians gank set ups lasted actual years. But they still in general try to clean up 0 ttk things from what I have seen.)
Just in case ttk is a new term for you. TTK is "Time To Kill." It's a metric used for lots of things to help balance the health of combat. You hear it more often in FPS games.
Very generally speaking:
A low ttk means damage is too high and tankiness/healing is too low and a high ttk means damage is too low and tankiness/healing too high. (so "zero ttk" means getting globaled/killed instantly basically).
So when you have an environment in ESO where the pvp landscape is outrageously tanky with high healing, and a set up slips in and makes waves like what you said above, it gets attention.
@@Dooma so these 3 sets together will shred people?
@@Flaxko-97 I can't say from personal experience for sure because I havent tried it. I just know I've been blown up quite a lot by 2x-3x proc ganks, and Anthlemir + Tarnished has been a staple in that mix quite often.
How do these two sets perform against the meta pve sets?
Quite a few people are using Tarnished for add clear in dungeon content and what not from what I have heard. I tested it and on the dummy it isnt as much single target or aoe damage as say Pillar of Nirn, but in content & difficulty levels where entire trash packs die in just a few globals, Tarnished may be a bit more ideal since all of its damage is upfront.
thanks
You are very welcome!
Ran into a guy back barring cinders and front barring plague slinger on a DK and the dmg was kinda gross tbh.
Oof that does sound gross lol.
@@Dooma yeah he was with a pocket healer in open world, couldn’t get close to him without getting chunked to death by procs lol.
@@ViiViiDvTx Oh wow that’s even nastier lmao. We were just messing with that in Discord today after you told me about it. At ~7k wd/sd and ~30k max resource, the slinger tooltip was 34k over 5 seconds. If it’s direct damage (didn’t check) then you add corrosive pen to that. You could line up some chunky burst windows. That is a lot of pressure if it can track 1 target (didn’t get to mess with that either.)
The wildest part about it is that is an 8s proc. So there are only 3-4 globals of downtime and it’s back up again for 5 globals.
If it performs as good as it looks on paper, on the right set up it could be a lot of fun. Thanks again for sharing this.
Can tarnished or cinders be dodged by rolling?
Tarnished can’t be dodged… if the damage procs on you.
🙏
Tarnished I dont believe so if you are the one who received the proc (not hit by the aoe). Cinders is proximity based, so its a little different. You may be able to dodge roll it, I will have to check.
@@Dooma I expect it won't be dodgable similar to blast bones tbh, but worth checking.