(236) The Edward Class (A Starfleet Colony Starship Design)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- In today's episode of Truth OR Myth Beta, we're taking a look at the Edward Class, as seen ALL throughout Star Trek Alpha and Beta Canon history! Hope you enjoy it :)
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I really like seeing the work horse classes.
I do too actually! They are so important!
Me too!
This is a cool addition to the story of the Federation. The shows often raced to rescue of one colony or another and we never got much for explanations for "so how did these folks start here?" even if a colony ship was referenced in passing.
That elongated warp field bubble shape might have been tough to maintain though. Explains its speed limits.
Thank you so much! And yes, I took the Warp field, and colonization in general in to my thought process when crafting this little story :)
Cool ship, easily one of my favorites. Would love to see more of these types of industrial ships. IMO Starfleet could use a bit more variety in their ship designs. Saucer, nacelle, secondary hulls can only be done so many ways before they get to repetitive.
Thank you, and Ill be doing more like this in the future!
I think this might have originated in the Birth of the Federation game, (25 years ago!) I really like your interpretation of the design.
I think ring ships would bring variety to Federation ship designs.
No it was in FASA before BotF, which I still play occasionally ;) :P
...your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they 'could', that they didn't stop to think if they 'should'.
I think you MIGHT have the wrong Franchise lol 😉
Awww I love TOS designs and their aesthetic! Boo Wendy, Booooooo 😜
Condors, The Condor Class, uh uh ah, if we brought back the Condor class
That’s why the survey team of scientists deemed the planet OK and that is why the council then voted democratically yes or no or consideration was given so when M’s class planet is colonized I am sure that it goes to a vigorous scrutiny before they do
Wait, why did you delete your comment about how you disliked the TOS Aestetic @Daginni1?
One thing I liked about this video was the Starfleet attitude why wait for fair weather but instead build something that can weather the storm
Thank you!
The Edward, what a pleasant surprise. I made stats for this ship for the LUG RPG for Federation Merchant Marines.
I like to surprise you sometimes ;)
LUG Trek ! there is a reference I have not heard for some time.
I always loved these videos that talk about HOW they got colonies up and running.. The pioneers of Colonies! Ty for the video and LLAP!
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks XHunter :)
Love the design, personally love the auxiliary starships models, like this and Hiawatha design 🖖🏻🇲🇽
I agree! And thank you :)
I love it. A completely cool and reasonable idea for a colony ship.
Glad you like it and thank you!
Lovely ship more please
Thank you!
Could be use for troop transport in wartime in theory
In theory, yes!
I wonder if this class could also be used for terraforming missions.
It has the cargo capability for such work.
It definitely could, though realistically, terraformers would have their own personal, specialy designed starships!
Very nice Information Video. Very nice ship mix from nx and Tos
Many thanks Dom!
Love the video and style of the ship 😊
Thanks! 😊
I really like this class. Good old workhorse class that could pack a punch if encountering a local bully. Be nice to see additional classes of this nature.
Thank you :)
Glad you mentioned FASA, this is giving me USS Ark Royal vibes too
Well I did try and pin it down as best I could, and I do think it originated in FASA :)
I love this practical design and I do remember similar from the fasa days. Reminds me of a Thunderbird 2 for Starfleet. It seems that more starfleet ships could be more modular rather than just swappable mission pods for practicalities sake.
Thank you! And yes, its been used, reused, modified etc throughout the last 40 years or so!
🖖😎👍 Very cool and very nicely well done and executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form provided on this format and subject matter on the Edward Colony class starship's and on all of its functions and abilities and duties and missions required of it indeed Sir!👌.
Thank you kindly!
Anything TOS is perfection
Can you please do a Confederation design of the Intrepid Warship?
Maybe one day, yes, but it will be a while yet!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Sweet!
I love that ship and the story yes please more like that
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing how the Federation hauled ass. Great video and story Nerd Approved.
LOL No problem :P
Looks like a die cast metal shuttle carrier that I believe I purchased at a convention "...back in the before-time...". Both of her engines have now snapped off, and I can't find pictures of it on the Internet anywhere, but I believe I got it before TNG aired.
This is a beautiful starship.....
Thank you!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics you're welcome
There’s a Starship for every application and task. This one is no exception. BTW, with April Fools coming I had an idea for a fun video. I remember a scene from Star Trek: First Contact. At the battle of Sector 001 between Starfleet and the Borg, a rather interesting looking ship is in the background. I’m talking about the Millennium Falcon. What if Starfleet had built a ship based on the Falcon. Say a limited run, or at least the prototype showed up at the battle. The designer was a fan of Star Wars and decided to make a ship inspired by the falcon in the aftermath of Wolf 359. Maybe incorporated Victrium and ablative hull armor into it. Was designed in tandem with the Defiant and Saber classes. Maybe Argyle was behind it. Drew at little inspiration from the NX class perhaps among other ships.
I'd almost be prepared to swear that I saw this ship viewed from the side profile in a very old rpg book of star trek ship designs.
Thanks!
Wow! Thank you SO much ❤️
Excellent ship and that's all they need to colonize a new world. Thank you for the video and have a good day excellent.
You're very welcome and you too! :)
I actually came up with a design for a cargo/colony vessel years ago that is strikingly similar to this. TNG era, larger than a galaxy class, with a smaller but thicker saucer and massive cargo/shuttle bays instead of detachable pods.
Also I'd never even heard of the Edwards class before watching this video. Spooky eh👻
At first glance I thought it was a Fed heavy carrier from Starfleet Battles!
LOL Like I said, it's EVERYWHERE :P
A fleet is more than its cruisers and frigates. A fleet is not just carriers. Seeing these workaday ships that starfleet needs for its affairs is always good.
I also have t owonder. When these vessels are mothballed, do any come up in private hands? Obsolete by a few generations, expensive (resource and man hours wise if not monitarily since money isn't a thing) to refit. Refitting older ships for civillian purpose where possible allows them to be of use and lets civilian groups have access to resources they wouldn't otherwise.
Given Starfleet's Prime Directive, I doubt they would end up in private hands!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I'm not even talking 'give them to unaligned worlds.' Like a group within the federation wants to operate a tour of worlds or tour of historical sites, or the like but they want an old connie to do it in to add to the historical nature of everything. Or getting hold of a decomissioned miranda in the 25th century as part of a civilian effort to do supply runs between 'colony' worlds that aren't high on starfleet's priority list. Still within the federation but not star fleet.
I doubt even that would happen! Once her time is done, its off to the decommission yard with her!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Fair. Just one of those idle thoughts.
Still kinda heartbreakign since i would 1000% want a tour of Captain Kirk's highlight's from his initial five year mission on a refurbished connie.
It's a sad thought really, but true in the Trek Universe!
Have you ever come across the colany support ship from the disco novel despite measures. I forget the class but it was a really cool concept. The ship lands plugs into the power grid and acts a hospital/factory/where house/power station
MORE PLEASE :)
Hi, All. Good afternoon, that different Star Trek cruiser Sci- Fi, / Neat cool strong 💪 crafts star ship colony, I hope spelled words okay.Happy Easter seasons. Good day.
I think when Paramount is making a new Star Trek series or movie they should offer you the Job of designing the federation ships because you make some very good ships and you are good at keeping them in the specific time line of the time period the movie is set in. My two favorite time periods are TNG and the TOS. I like the TOS because it is what Star Trek is based on and I like TNG because it brought Star Trek back to life. When doing TOS they need to keep everything original to the TOS show the technology and uniforms and never try to modernize it but as far as uniforms are concerned I believe in TOS each ship had their own insignia. but as far as the ship are concerned you make some interesting ships for the federation.
First place I saw it was the Star Trek PC game Birth of the Federation.
Like I said in the intro, EVERYWHERE! :P lol
FASA did have some cool designs.
Indeed they did!
Nice 👍
Thanks ✌
The reason the Eddy class was so successful? They minded their own business and did their job. No going off into some nebula in some unexplored region of the galaxy looking for trouble, no sir! Head down, do the job, and punish anyone who gets in the way.
"Let those exploration ships go fuck around and find out, I got a job to do."
- Some Edward class starship captain, probably.
Question,could the Edward Class be expandable?
Can it carry more cargo containers than the one shown?
Answer, technically yes, but practically no... As the Engine System is rated to create a warp field large enough for only what is shown!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics thank you 😁🖖
No problem :)
there are models for ST Armada 2 that have similar design aspects for this type of ship.
Like I said in the intro, EVERYWHERE! :P
Those Old Scientists ships were something. Nice kickback. You are improving. The Edward Class is a real beauty.
looks like the original version of the sfb uss napoleon
Like I said in the intro, EVERYWHERE! :P
I would love to see the WASP class ships
Can you please a history of edward class upgrades ams refits over the next 150 years
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Such a beautiful and functional ship compared to most Starfleet designs. It seems like the fleet just gets uglier over time, and they rarely follow the rule of form following function.With the Edward, you have a very aesthetically pleasing vessel while leaving no room to doubt what its purpose is. We definitely need more ships like this brought into Alpha canon to make up for the terrible starship designs most shows now sport.
A dedicated colony vessel is interesting, but to me, it makes far more sense to create more generic container vessels for multiple use purposes... P'tolmy (Constitution variant), Brownwood (Miranda variant), Anaxagoras (Excelsior variant), Fisher Class (Oberth variant), Osmanieh (Jaynes Starship handbook), Mangsysslare (JOAT), etc.... Containers could include types like the below and many more:
Military Assault Type
Mobile Base Type
Medical Type
Mobile Repair (aka Dry-dock) Type
Shuttle/Fighter Carrier Type
Tender Container Type
Antimatter/Deuterium/Neutronic Fuel Type
Colony Transport Type
Dry Bulk Type
Liquids Type
Marine Transport Type
Products Type
Refrigeration Type
Well they DID create such vessels, but ALSO created vessels with specific mission profiles...
finally a ship that wasnt introduced and then decommissioned a few years later😂
LOL
How about a Luxury Medium range transport?
Lol yeahhhhh no lol
Random question, did it ever happen to you to start designing lore around a starship and you fell so attached to it that you keep revisiting it to update it or change the legacies ships that will bear its name
I am wondering because it happened to me 2 times
USS Roon the sentient excelsior class that live through over a century and oldest excelsior still in active services.
And USS warspite (legacy name carried by multiple ship) the sword of starfleet and the eternal warrior forever condamn to carry the wait war so that the others ships may trive in peace (I may or may not inject spiritisme in my ship lore because I believe that those ship are has much of a character has there crews)
Sorry if it is random
I am just curious
Logistic wins war.
Haven’t watched past your opening logos but I’m gonna say based off of the design of the Hiawatha from episode one of discovery’s second season.
And you would be wrong! Lol the Hiawatha is based off this old FASA design!
The Edward class is from the Birth of the Federation game. The London class was it's counterpart troop transport.
Sorry, but you are incorrect! Oh Oh, did someone not pay attention to my intro? :P As my intro said, it has showed up all through out Beta Canon, but showed up in FASA way before Birth of the Federation! (And PS, I still play BotF all the time ;) )
This is an almost exact copy of the Federation Heavy Carrier introduced in Star Fleet Battles sans a few minor cosmetic differences. Mainly the bridge configuration and the location of the deflector dish.
Like I said in the intro, EVERYWHERE! :P
The Edward Class looks a lot like the FASA Overfield class freighter and Sunshine class luxury liner that appeared in the first edition Federation Recognition Manual. It's got a similar design. Personally, neither of the FASA ships made sense as Starfleet vessels. Starfleet has it's own cruise ship? Is everything government owned by the 23rd century?
I’m an FASA nerd. Bought the original manuals Never heard of it. And I’ve got the original ship guides.
Then Im glad tp bring new knowledge into your life!
wow, this is a pretty obscure ship well maybe aside from the maybe the ranger class carrier
Actually, it isnt obscure at all!
it's more so the tos variant that is obscure, the tng version not so much
Uh no, again you're incorrect! Any long term Trek fan recognizes this design as a TOS design!
I guess I need to brush up on my star trek lore then, my bad
I like what you done here but a long range four nacelle ship liner were used in the paramount role playing game modules but no details other than the number of passengers and the number of nacelles were in the game modules
Im not sure what the comparison is here...
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Yes, yes you are! Grats!
check out TOS book Wagon train to the Stars, colony establishing story. Lots of colony starting ships described there
Ive taken in to account that novel as well as tons of other novels, games, comics etc
The Edward class is from an old 90s PC game called 'Star Trek - Birth of the Federation'. In the game it's a TNG era design.
Normaly i don't like roundbased games exept for BotF (i played it for hours and hours).
Sorry, but you are incorrect! As my intro said, it has showed up all through out Beta Canon, but showed up in FASA way before Birth of the Federation! (And PS, I still play BotF all the time ;) )
I love the class, the video behind it, the info. But why wouldn't colonization be left to interests outside of the federation institution? I'd like to think that such endeavors would be handled by groups of actual "settlers".
Because, like the Settlers of old, the Government would hand out the land (planet) they could colonize on... Settlers didnt just go and randomly pick what land was theirs...
This looks very much like the Hiawatha-Class from Discovery, but in TOS style, interesting
Yes, but created 30 or more years before the Hiawatha!
Perhaps the discovery series took inspiration from FASA
That's what I meant in my intro! 😉
It would seem I was not paying attention 😅
LOL all good :P
Is this meant to be disassembled like previous colony classes were, cause I can imagine that starting a colony is resource intensive. Disassembly would strengthen the ability for saving resources.
No it is not... Nor is disassembly a canon feature of all colony ships!
Too bad... it seems to me that disassembled.. it might speed up the process. @@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics
Not at all really... Disassembly would be a much slower process that jusy assembling!
That looks suspiciously like the “mining” vessel from Star Trek Armada 2 only TOS era.
Like I said in the intro, the design was EVERYWHERE!
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics and it is cool to see a "newer" 3D model of it ;)
Thanks! :)
What was wrong with using a Ptolemy and colony container?
The video explained that... There wasnt enough Cargo ships and crews to go around! Plus, they werent designed with that specific mission profile in mind!
Hey!!! Where did my comment go????
Sorry what?
@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics :-( I wrote a comment about 20 mins ago, and it has gone 😞
it was a complement too - nothing nasty! :-(
Hmmmm no idea at all!
Jeez, Are you for real or what?
I have no idea what you're talking about! 🤔