*Some admirals looking into restarting some old starship designs* Admiral 1: "This looks interesting. *points to Durga class*. All other admirals: "We don't talk about the Durga class." Admiral 1: "But...." All the other admirals: "WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE DURGA CLASS!" *They delete the files, and the admiral is reassigned someplace unknown*.
Scotty would be chasing down the engineers who originally designed this class with hypo-sprays filled with medicine that made people forget the Durga class…
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios it would be for a stream and as either a plot point or heck - write up a story of the ship project getting shutdown. it seems rich with opportunities, but i wanted to not use this if there were issues with the ownership of the design. so thanks so much for your generosity.
Really fun story and an amazing kit bash! I really also enjoy the idea that the only thing really being a threat to Starfleet being Old World style bureaucracy. Like Rootbeer, eh? It's also really fun seeing some love for the old ships that were sitting in the technical manual and encyclopedia and the like. I still have most of them on my shelves.
Every time someone mentions the FASA game, I get excited! I never actually learned how to PLAY it, but I spent hundreds of hours creating crews. I wish I had kept everything!
This is cool. It kinda looks like two ships put together, which gives me an idea to pass along for another kitbash. Imagine a 23rd century predecessor to the Prometheus class. Four nacelles and two saucers and two secondary hulls that join together. It could have a high warp capacity together and tactical superiority when separated. What do ya think? Wanna make it?
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios In the last episode, after they find Earth. Lee brings up the idea of breaking the cycle by abandoning their technology. So, they keep just what they need to survive, and Sam Anders flies the fleet into the sun.
I was expecting a spatial/Temporal anomaly to appear between the ship and the star which then transports the ship to a slightly pre-warp society on the edge of Federation space 200 years in the past. They capture the ship, successfully reverse engineer the 23rd century tech, correct it's issues allowing them to grow exponentially to then become a major threat to the Federation in the Picard era... 🤔🤨👍
I always liked my Carolina class. A vertically symmetrical, slightly larger and taller engneering hull with 2 somewhat shorted necks on top and bottom each with a saucer and 4 pylons with warp nacells. Looked good as both Connie refit and Soverign types. And you could either have 2 shuttle bays, upper and lower with a gap between them, or 1 much larger bay with no gap.
I just posted a picture yesterday of the atlas class in my Instagram story. A few times recently I've looked at something and then later in the day or next day a TH-camr I follow posted about it.
Interesting design and fun story, it’s not that much of a shame the Atlas-Class failed, its failure thankfully paved the way for newer more advanced starships to be built and commissioned, and while this Class might’ve not have been a wowing sucess? It was clear that it would become rapidly obsolete with the introduction of the Constitution-II-Class in 2272. Speaking of. I wonder if you can manage to kitbash the original Discovery-Class design seen in the TOS Comic: “Year Five” and do a video on why that design also fell short? and also how, eventually many decades later? Would have one of its vessels, the U.S.S. Theseus NX-1987, Recommissioned and rebuilt for the ST Comic: “Godshock” and would end up saving the galaxy? It’s rebuilt design is in STO as the “Theseus-Class”, apparently she was used as a test article in the late-2370’s for upcoming technologies, well over a century after she was built.
Since it was the recomm Connie that was the springboard for the revival you postulate here, does that mean Scotty saved the Federation? We all know that any flaws in tech he was to install on the Enterprise would have been "tweaked" immediately.
Looking at the Durga class, with a bit of reworking it could have been a variant of the Constitution class. Unfortunately it’s a bit over engineered, as Scotty would say “The more they over think the plumbing, the easy it is to stop up the drain”.
Please dont take this personally as it's not meant that way, but I dont do other people's stories! Im a creator and find it extremely boring and imaginatively stiffling to do that! Thats why I weave Canon and Beta Canon tidbits in to a story! I would suggest that the best person to tell your story is you, and wish you luck with that! Take care!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudiosis reminded that ships belong to specific design classifications; heavy cruisers, light cruisers, battleships, destroyers, scouts, transports/tugs, freighters, neutronic fuel carriers, starliners, and such. What were those of the "Atlas" and the "Durga" intended to be?
And PS Dreadnought, Heavy Crusier, Light etc is a classification, not a design class! So in future please be more specific and accurate to ensure no miscommunication!
While I appreciate the time and effort it took to do the kitbash and design the Durga, I can’t help thinking that it is an …awkward design. It looks to like it could an early experiment in separation of sections that are able to act independently.
I don't get WHY the classes shown were considered embarassing enough failures that one had it's materials WASTED by basically incinerating it. that said, I came up with a similar idea in high school (34 years ago!) for a "fednaught" replacement who's plans got mothballed by the Refit and the excelsior project, only to be pulled back out and updated after transwarp failure. 6 got made before the Khitomer incident killed the plans. incidentally, I wrote that the build of one caused the 'tuesday incedent' because the parts e-b were missing got delivered to that yard by mistake XD
You don't get WHY they destroyed it? Then a) You didnt pay attention to the story as that was explained and b) The Refit Constitution Class was about to debut making most of its materials obsolete in terms of hull plating... So play the weigh game, risk returning another failed design starship that could be exposed to the citizens of the Federation further damaging an already damaged rep in order to get out of date, unusable materials vs destroy the piece of junk, save your rep, and pour yoyr efforts into the Refit Connie... I would think the answer is obvious!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios the "damaged rep", yes, i get THAT...but what was the stupid mistake that embarrased everybody so much they literally swept it under the rug, then threw the rug into the furnace?.
The Video also explained that, though not in great detail, it was the Atlas Class that had caused the issue... See my video on it for a better explanation! th-cam.com/video/L7i76OBr8nE/w-d-xo.html
Are you sure the Durga was destroyed? I'm willing to believe that certain personnel in the Admiralty just report it as a failure, but the ship was actually and quietly given off to Section 31. A minor reprogramming of the secondary sensor array, and you have speedy little spy ship with enough firepower to take out anyone who discovers the ship's little secret. Just my thoughts.
Seems a bit extreme to send it into a sun, if anything they would have just mothballed it until the technology became advanced enough to upgrade or refit it.
No, because mothballing it would risk its existence becoming public knowledge... Leading to questions as to why no one knew about it, and why it wasn't in service!
I guess, it just seems like there was no catastrophic failures (at least non mentioned) that would justify sending into a sun. Unless it had some technology that wasn't considered "legal."
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Still wracking my brain here, perhaps you could provide more clarification as to the danger it represents. If it was simply because of embarrassment, I still don't think Starfleet would send a ship that took a good deal of time and resources to build into a sun without a better reason. If they just chose to go forward with the Constitution refit project instead of going forward with this class, they could just decommission it and move on. Now maybe if it had some kind of experimental warp drive that caused the ship to vanish into another dimension or maybe it had a temporal device that sent it into a different time or a temporal stasis field that froze time around them, I could see why they would want to destroy all trace of it.
Im not sure what you dont get about it... To be honest, one only need to look at the real world to understand... Also, everyone else gets it without needing such an extensive explanation... Here is the video on the Atlas Class, the direct predisessor and failure to this class, to help you understand The Video also explained that, though not in great detail, it was the Atlas Class that had caused the issue... See my video on it for a better explanation! th-cam.com/video/L7i76OBr8nE/w-d-xo.html but if you dont get it after that, then Im not sure how I can help you. Sometimes some people are just so uninformed about the way politics and reality work, that they sre beyond help, OR are simply closed minded to anyone explaining anything that doesn't follow the agenda they are trying push, See "Flat Earthers" for example... So Im closing this thread off here as you're just traveling in circles now! Take care! (THREAD CLOSED- No further comments will appear to prevent a circular argument)
It sounds too bulky for my tastes. I prefer small and midsized ships to dreadnaughts (Which is why all my regularly active STOL character command Frigates while the Klingon character I play occasionally commands a Bird of Prey. That said I think whoever decided to scrap it should have been court-martialed. Even if it didn't live up to their expectations once the resources had been invested to build the prototype the least they could do is find a role suited to its capabilities and get the best use from it they could. It should have only been scuttled if they could find no use for it.
So that Starfleet Command could be embarrassed again? And have Federation member worlds in an uproar over it for a few, basically, out of date resources that were plentiful? Your idea spells disaster!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Make a Press release claiming whatever role it ends up being used for was its intended purpose. Less embarrassing then someone finding out you were dumb enough to fly a useful ship into the sun because it wasn't perfect. Ships don't have to be perfect to be useful.
Then questions would be raised as to why Starfleet was pouring resources in to an obvious new design that had no practical advantage over starship designs over 20 years it's senior! Again your idea spells a PR disaster for Starfleet!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Given that Starfleet still has 80 to 90 year old designs in common service decades after this, and are using a design that's over a century as a training ship in the 2370s I just can't see a way Starfleet could possibly be building new ships so fast that they couldn't make use of this already built ship. And like I said you decide what role it will be filling then release a PR message that the ship was intended for this role. Focus on the resource efficiency of finding a good use for the ship. Is making all the resources invested in a project go to waste really a better PR move? What would they have done if the Federation ran an audit and aske where the missing resources went? I doubt "We built a ship that didn't meet our expectations and rather then try to find a good use for it we decided flying it into star would be less embarrassing." would impress the people in charge of determining Starfleet's budget.
First off, they arent building 60 year old designs using their original tech in the 23rd Century... They are building updated designs... And THIS is not the case with this BRAND NEW DESIGN! So again you've got nothing there... And given the outrage and loss of faith in Starfleet leading to a massive inquiry and change in leadership, the organization couldn't afford the scandal of another new FAIL design! You can try to justify your view all you want, but you really have nothing... When you play yhe weigh game, Keeping an already out of date Starship VS the massive scandal that would create, it's clear thay washing your hands of the whole debacle in favor of the refit Connie, was the right answer! And that's what they did, the logical thing! Also the Federation Council doesn't run audits on resources, that would be a daunting and silly task... The most they would do would be an audit on assets and equipment, and classified designs such as this wouldn't be on an official list anyhow, so again, you've got nothing there! Anyhow, closing this thread off here now as you're just running in circles with no real leg to stand on! Take care! (THREAD CLOSED- No further comments will appear to prevent a circular argument)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I dont I just saw it on star trek online a new ship for sell been looking it up not much lore on it one video on another channel but not as well as u do for your videos I'm just a new fan of your content its amazing and I just learned a little about this ship the other day but it's not cannon in any shows just the ds9 Dominion game and now it's on Star Trek online
You just can’t slap a saucer and any number of nacelles together and call it a starship. The design has to make sense not look cool. The Oberth class started that nonsense and it’s been downhill from there.
Love the design and idea of the Durga Class! I would love to see more failed classes of the TOS era!
*Some admirals looking into restarting some old starship designs*
Admiral 1: "This looks interesting. *points to Durga class*.
All other admirals: "We don't talk about the Durga class."
Admiral 1: "But...."
All the other admirals: "WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE DURGA CLASS!" *They delete the files, and the admiral is reassigned someplace unknown*.
LOL
Somewhere so far off the map "you couldn't find it with 12 hunting dogs and a ouija board."
@@PhilDrury Assigned as an ambassador to the Borg.
The first thing to know about the Durga class is that nobody ever talks about the Durga class...😏
@@TriAngulumAudioStudiosTeeHee😁😁😝😝😝😝
I feel sorry for the poor engineer who had to work on the class.
Scotty would be chasing down the engineers who originally designed this class with hypo-sprays filled with medicine that made people forget the Durga class…
I Love the overall Phase II inspired Design, Makes me wish it was a Successful Class
I enjoyed creating the design but as I was making it, I realized, it was really over engineered... Leading to the failed conclusion! :)
I wish it hadn’t failed, either
I see what you did there. You did the dreaded “OOPSIE”!!
I haven’t heard of the Successful Class. Was that a major ship class? 😁
I imagine Starfleet command erasing the memory of the crew of the Durga all Men in Black style just to make sure lol
LOL
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios soooooo.... um how can i contact you about using this design / concept in a TTRPG stream we have running?
I can picture a bunch of Vulcans getting calluses on their fingertips with a 500 person memory suppression.
Sorry what? You want to use this design in an RPG, go nuts :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios it would be for a stream and as either a plot point or heck - write up a story of the ship project getting shutdown. it seems rich with opportunities, but i wanted to not use this if there were issues with the ownership of the design. so thanks so much for your generosity.
Really fun story and an amazing kit bash! I really also enjoy the idea that the only thing really being a threat to Starfleet being Old World style bureaucracy.
Like Rootbeer, eh?
It's also really fun seeing some love for the old ships that were sitting in the technical manual and encyclopedia and the like. I still have most of them on my shelves.
First rule about the Durga class is...we don't talk about the Durga class.
Although, sometimes failure IS an option if you learn from it.
I'm having Team America flashbacks.... Durga! Durga! Durga!
#nailedit
i really like all the work you do and that you point out that starships are not just all around awesome. balancing successes and failures.
Thank you so much! I think (since our failures really define us) that highlighting these types of classes makes the Trek Universe more "real!"
Well done! Another interesting design! And it takes a LOT of embarrassment to fly a ship into the sun!
Thank you, thank you!
Every time someone mentions the FASA game, I get excited! I never actually learned how to PLAY it, but I spent hundreds of hours creating crews. I wish I had kept everything!
This is cool. It kinda looks like two ships put together, which gives me an idea to pass along for another kitbash. Imagine a 23rd century predecessor to the Prometheus class. Four nacelles and two saucers and two secondary hulls that join together. It could have a high warp capacity together and tactical superiority when separated.
What do ya think?
Wanna make it?
So Starfleet pulled a “Anders” maneuver to get rid of the evidence. 😂
I have no idea what that means... LOL
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios It's a Battlestar Galactica reference.
I mean I watched all of Battlestar, both the original and new, but still don't get the reference... What am I forgetting?
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios In the last episode, after they find Earth. Lee brings up the idea of breaking the cycle by abandoning their technology. So, they keep just what they need to survive, and Sam Anders flies the fleet into the sun.
Ahhhhhh okay, got it! Thank you!
I thought the story was going to end with the attempt to send the ship into a sun failing and the Durga Class ship ended up getting its remains found.
I was expecting a spatial/Temporal anomaly to appear between the ship and the star which then transports the ship to a slightly pre-warp society on the edge of Federation space 200 years in the past.
They capture the ship, successfully reverse engineer the 23rd century tech, correct it's issues allowing them to grow exponentially to then become a major threat to the Federation in the Picard era... 🤔🤨👍
I love your stories! The Atlas class being a failure made me sad but I still love the stories as a whole.
Great Unique channel !!!!!!! Thanks !!!!!!!
I always liked my Carolina class. A vertically symmetrical, slightly larger and taller engneering hull with 2 somewhat shorted necks on top and bottom each with a saucer and 4 pylons with warp nacells. Looked good as both Connie refit and Soverign types. And you could either have 2 shuttle bays, upper and lower with a gap between them, or 1 much larger bay with no gap.
Thank you for the video and LLAP.. Very unusual ship!
My pleasure! Thank you!
I love hearing about the early starfleet/federation days particularly the time after the romulan war between 2160 to about 2230 🤗
I love that one of the ships you made was a failure since it’s believable great video man
I like her. Great video and story fantastic model. Nerd Approved!
Yay, thank you! :)
It was developed into the moderately more successful Derka-Derka Class.
Great job as usual for this one.
I got to admit I like this design. It's really cool for sure.
I enjoy hearing about The Durge Class.
First comment! Another great video
6th Comment, but still impressive :) Thanks :)
damn starfleet really did the walk of shame ...right into the star
Nice looking ship. Thankfully Q thinks the same and so saved her from destruction.
Lol, thank you, but sorry no, the ship was destroyed! :)
I just posted a picture yesterday of the atlas class in my Instagram story. A few times recently I've looked at something and then later in the day or next day a TH-camr I follow posted about it.
Always the way right? Though I did make a video on the Atlas class over 2 years ago ;) :p th-cam.com/video/L7i76OBr8nE/w-d-xo.html
Almost looks like a souped up dreadnought
Exactly! lol
I'd wager that Section 31 took the Durga .
LOL nope, it WAS destroyed, even Section 31 didnt want to touch it :P
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Damn.... If S31 didn't want it then it's that bad😮😮😮
Lol nobody wants a starship that really doesn't work... Especially since S31 was already far more advanced in Design than this ship class!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Sec31: "yes that is exactly what we wanted you to think."
@@twitchewGiggles😝😝😝😁😁🤣🤣😂😂
Love the this. Very nice video
Glad you enjoyed it Dom :)
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios No Problem Bro 👊
Hm...... I bet even that footnote was oftentimes attempted to be erased....
Dang, that`s quite a fate for one ship.
Hurray!
Hope you enjoy! :)
Interesting design and fun story, it’s not that much of a shame the Atlas-Class failed, its failure thankfully paved the way for newer more advanced starships to be built and commissioned, and while this Class might’ve not have been a wowing sucess? It was clear that it would become rapidly obsolete with the introduction of the Constitution-II-Class in 2272.
Speaking of. I wonder if you can manage to kitbash the original Discovery-Class design seen in the TOS Comic: “Year Five” and do a video on why that design also fell short? and also how, eventually many decades later? Would have one of its vessels, the U.S.S. Theseus NX-1987, Recommissioned and rebuilt for the ST Comic: “Godshock” and would end up saving the galaxy? It’s rebuilt design is in STO as the “Theseus-Class”, apparently she was used as a test article in the late-2370’s for upcoming technologies, well over a century after she was built.
Since it was the recomm Connie that was the springboard for the revival you postulate here, does that mean Scotty saved the Federation? We all know that any flaws in tech he was to install on the Enterprise would have been "tweaked" immediately.
There should be a story of the much fabled Phase II Constitution class
I've always wondered what do you use to create these kit ash ships and CGI flybye scenes. Blender? Sandbox?
The Durga looks like a Constitution Class starship with another half secondary hull welded on top
Everybody knows it was the Vulcans fault. All that Star Fleet isn't ready nonsense.
Interesting
Trial & Error🤔🖖
At least the Atlas got it's place in Star Trek Online
A poor end for a potential class
More nacelles!!!
Idc, I'll take two
👍👍👍
Is there a Kali Class?
The Durga class looks like two phase 2 Constitution class ships slammed together.
Looking at the Durga class, with a bit of reworking it could have been a variant of the Constitution class. Unfortunately it’s a bit over engineered, as Scotty would say “The more they over think the plumbing, the easy it is to stop up the drain”.
The Atlas looks like a prototype Excelsior.
I don't think so!
The repulse class was the prototype excelsior class
I have an idea for a ship from between just before the Galaxy Project started up? If I extol it, would you do a model and video?
Please dont take this personally as it's not meant that way, but I dont do other people's stories! Im a creator and find it extremely boring and imaginatively stiffling to do that! Thats why I weave Canon and Beta Canon tidbits in to a story! I would suggest that the best person to tell your story is you, and wish you luck with that! Take care!
What TYPES of ships were the "Atlas's" and the "Durga's" respective design classes supposed to have BEEN???
Tactical powerhouses!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudiosis reminded that ships belong to specific design classifications; heavy cruisers, light cruisers, battleships, destroyers, scouts, transports/tugs, freighters, neutronic fuel carriers, starliners, and such.
What were those of the "Atlas" and the "Durga" intended to be?
In other words, Dreadnoughts... (Thought Tactical Powerhouses was obvious to that, sorry)
And PS Dreadnought, Heavy Crusier, Light etc is a classification, not a design class! So in future please be more specific and accurate to ensure no miscommunication!
While I appreciate the time and effort it took to do the kitbash and design the Durga, I can’t help thinking that it is an …awkward design. It looks to like it could an early experiment in separation of sections that are able to act independently.
It's a design that has been in Beta Canon since the dawn of Beta Canon! Lol
I don't get WHY the classes shown were considered embarassing enough failures that one had it's materials WASTED by basically incinerating it. that said, I came up with a similar idea in high school (34 years ago!) for a "fednaught" replacement who's plans got mothballed by the Refit and the excelsior project, only to be pulled back out and updated after transwarp failure. 6 got made before the Khitomer incident killed the plans. incidentally, I wrote that the build of one caused the 'tuesday incedent' because the parts e-b were missing got delivered to that yard by mistake XD
You don't get WHY they destroyed it? Then a) You didnt pay attention to the story as that was explained and b) The Refit Constitution Class was about to debut making most of its materials obsolete in terms of hull plating... So play the weigh game, risk returning another failed design starship that could be exposed to the citizens of the Federation further damaging an already damaged rep in order to get out of date, unusable materials vs destroy the piece of junk, save your rep, and pour yoyr efforts into the Refit Connie... I would think the answer is obvious!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios the "damaged rep", yes, i get THAT...but what was the stupid mistake that embarrased everybody so much they literally swept it under the rug, then threw the rug into the furnace?.
The Video also explained that, though not in great detail, it was the Atlas Class that had caused the issue... See my video on it for a better explanation! th-cam.com/video/L7i76OBr8nE/w-d-xo.html
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios now THAT refrence I needed. the explination DID seem to need a linkback to an earlier vid.
I guess you missed the explanation in the video then? Lol
How about the Aries Class, as seen in Axanar?
The Ares Class is a fan design (Not Beta Canon) that has no place in Trek at all!
Are you sure the Durga was destroyed? I'm willing to believe that certain personnel in the Admiralty just report it as a failure, but the ship was actually and quietly given off to Section 31. A minor reprogramming of the secondary sensor array, and you have speedy little spy ship with enough firepower to take out anyone who discovers the ship's little secret.
Just my thoughts.
Im positive that it was both a failure and was destroyed lol :)
Seems a bit extreme to send it into a sun, if anything they would have just mothballed it until the technology became advanced enough to upgrade or refit it.
No, because mothballing it would risk its existence becoming public knowledge... Leading to questions as to why no one knew about it, and why it wasn't in service!
I guess, it just seems like there was no catastrophic failures (at least non mentioned) that would justify sending into a sun. Unless it had some technology that wasn't considered "legal."
You dont need catastrophic failures for something to be too dangerous to keep around! And in this case, its very existence was the danger!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Still wracking my brain here, perhaps you could provide more clarification as to the danger it represents. If it was simply because of embarrassment, I still don't think Starfleet would send a ship that took a good deal of time and resources to build into a sun without a better reason. If they just chose to go forward with the Constitution refit project instead of going forward with this class, they could just decommission it and move on. Now maybe if it had some kind of experimental warp drive that caused the ship to vanish into another dimension or maybe it had a temporal device that sent it into a different time or a temporal stasis field that froze time around them, I could see why they would want to destroy all trace of it.
Im not sure what you dont get about it... To be honest, one only need to look at the real world to understand... Also, everyone else gets it without needing such an extensive explanation... Here is the video on the Atlas Class, the direct predisessor and failure to this class, to help you understand The Video also explained that, though not in great detail, it was the Atlas Class that had caused the issue... See my video on it for a better explanation! th-cam.com/video/L7i76OBr8nE/w-d-xo.html but if you dont get it after that, then Im not sure how I can help you. Sometimes some people are just so uninformed about the way politics and reality work, that they sre beyond help, OR are simply closed minded to anyone explaining anything that doesn't follow the agenda they are trying push, See "Flat Earthers" for example... So Im closing this thread off here as you're just traveling in circles now! Take care!
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It sounds too bulky for my tastes. I prefer small and midsized ships to dreadnaughts (Which is why all my regularly active STOL character command Frigates while the Klingon character I play occasionally commands a Bird of Prey.
That said I think whoever decided to scrap it should have been court-martialed. Even if it didn't live up to their expectations once the resources had been invested to build the prototype the least they could do is find a role suited to its capabilities and get the best use from it they could. It should have only been scuttled if they could find no use for it.
So that Starfleet Command could be embarrassed again? And have Federation member worlds in an uproar over it for a few, basically, out of date resources that were plentiful? Your idea spells disaster!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Make a Press release claiming whatever role it ends up being used for was its intended purpose. Less embarrassing then someone finding out you were dumb enough to fly a useful ship into the sun because it wasn't perfect. Ships don't have to be perfect to be useful.
Then questions would be raised as to why Starfleet was pouring resources in to an obvious new design that had no practical advantage over starship designs over 20 years it's senior! Again your idea spells a PR disaster for Starfleet!
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Given that Starfleet still has 80 to 90 year old designs in common service decades after this, and are using a design that's over a century as a training ship in the 2370s I just can't see a way Starfleet could possibly be building new ships so fast that they couldn't make use of this already built ship. And like I said you decide what role it will be filling then release a PR message that the ship was intended for this role. Focus on the resource efficiency of finding a good use for the ship. Is making all the resources invested in a project go to waste really a better PR move?
What would they have done if the Federation ran an audit and aske where the missing resources went? I doubt "We built a ship that didn't meet our expectations and rather then try to find a good use for it we decided flying it into star would be less embarrassing." would impress the people in charge of determining Starfleet's budget.
First off, they arent building 60 year old designs using their original tech in the 23rd Century... They are building updated designs... And THIS is not the case with this BRAND NEW DESIGN! So again you've got nothing there... And given the outrage and loss of faith in Starfleet leading to a massive inquiry and change in leadership, the organization couldn't afford the scandal of another new FAIL design! You can try to justify your view all you want, but you really have nothing... When you play yhe weigh game, Keeping an already out of date Starship VS the massive scandal that would create, it's clear thay washing your hands of the whole debacle in favor of the refit Connie, was the right answer! And that's what they did, the logical thing!
Also the Federation Council doesn't run audits on resources, that would be a daunting and silly task... The most they would do would be an audit on assets and equipment, and classified designs such as this wouldn't be on an official list anyhow, so again, you've got nothing there!
Anyhow, closing this thread off here now as you're just running in circles with no real leg to stand on! Take care!
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Please do the Achilles class starship from the ds9 Dominion war game
Sure, do you have a 4k 3d model of it?
@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I dont I just saw it on star trek online a new ship for sell been looking it up not much lore on it one video on another channel but not as well as u do for your videos I'm just a new fan of your content its amazing and I just learned a little about this ship the other day but it's not cannon in any shows just the ds9 Dominion game and now it's on Star Trek online
You just can’t slap a saucer and any number of nacelles together and call it a starship. The design has to make sense not look cool. The Oberth class started that nonsense and it’s been downhill from there.
Sure, that's one opinion lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was never a failure because it doesnt exist
It was a failure, thus why it doesn't exist!
Mmmmm Triangulum ...
Thanks! Nom Nom