The Synths in CIT are likely there because, according to Virgil, CIT is the primary insertion point for field operatives via teleportation. So keeping it clear ensures that Institute surface teams aren't spawn killed
To think about it, if the SS doesn’t help the brotherhood I would think they would still sooner or later figure out that they are somewhere close to CIT and sooner or later find out they are teleporting
"What is it with supermutants and toys?" part of their theme seems to be innocence, like Strong not understanding the phase 'milk of human kindness' being the source of humanities strength, they often react to violence like it is a game, and the suiciders might mean they don't understand their own mortality.
I think they understand I think they become suiciders out of penitence for some crime. I think it's why they often wear chains when they're suiciders and aren't wearing any armor. As some sort of final mortal act to repent
@@hyperturbotechnomike could be that the institute decided to consolidate their resources and exterminate them, or it could be that they're cloning them
I mean there's Radscorpions and Deathclaws there, both of those creatures' meat is in their leveled list and have a chance to drop in their loot upon death so they're in their diet
@@ayythatsmikey maybe the deathclaws and other creatures only thrive there since super mutants aren't there. Yeah they still show up elsewhere but not nearly as frequently. If mutants went there they'd run out of deathclaw mutants. Also no humans to eat in the glowing sea except for the crater. It's smarter to remain outside the glowing sea.
it's really interesitng how every instance of inter-mutant conflict we've seen on the east coast(Fawkes and Strong) didnt involve killing but instead involved imprisonment, with the mutants keeping the traitor in a holding cell instead of just killing them. It really adds to the theory of intense loyalty to the species and understanding that they cant create more and refusal to ever kill one another.
The Fallout 4 mutants are capable of easily killing each other if they act out of line by agreeing with humans or showing higher intelligence than the standard mutant. The Super Mutants led by Fist were planning on killing Strong and were making bets on how many times his body would bounce off the ground once they pushed him off Trinity Tower just because he took the readings of MacBeth too literally after agreeing with Rex. Erickson from Far Harbor used to be in a group led by Grun, a Behemoth leading the Vim! Pop Factory. He had to go into hiding because Grun almost squashed him to death after trying to give some intelligent suggestions to them.
@@Nyxael5845 in addition, in Fallout 3 Uncle Leo tells the player that the other mutants got very aggressive when he told them they should stop killing so much and that "they would have killed him if he hadn't run away" Fawkes also describes how his captors had destroyed the terminal he had in his cell, which was the only passtime he had and only way to keep himself sane, just to torment him. One of Fawkes combat lines when fighting SMs is "You'll pay dearly for all you did to me!" so they were torturing him in other ways too. They weren't keeping him alive out of respect for their own.
The blind super mutant choked me up a bit, there’s still some remnant of humanity within them. Really does remind me of the super mutants in older titles.
@@carloscolon3331 Strong is just the Scientist super mutant from the first 2 games, if he himself was a failure and didn't retain his intelligence, Bro is all in on theh super mutant supremacy, believes firmly in united mutants to the point of getting mad when humans don't help eachother, and hates weakness.
You really made me realise how much of a missed opportunity the whole "Institute teleporting mutants" things was, having NPCs comment on how super mutant just randomly appear in a specific area would have really built up the mystique of the area. Plus it could have been a chance to delve into Super Mutant society and what they think was going on, do they believe it is the act of some Super Mutant god? If so it would explain why the boston super mutants have a superiority complex a bit. There's a lot of story tell potential there.
It would've made a good inspiration for some wasteland folklore, maybe legends of mutants spawning from the ground, with unlucky scavengers who stray into the wrong locations being buried in the soil to be turned
I love these kinds of videos. I think the reason the Super Mutants are so cordial with each other is because of some of the bits of culture Strong mentions. There is no infighting because Super Mutants share everything, they like it when they help each other for no ulterior motives, and are a lot more unified than the Raiders. It’s actually really interesting to see Strong’s likes and dislikes and they give great insight into Super Mutant culture.
Super mutants in the capital wasteland do show signs of this communality. Apparently the reason they put gorebags on long stakes or somewhere high up is so behemoths get to eat too What a lovable bunch
About the northeast and southeast: a thing that both areas have in common is a larger gunner presence. The gunners having heavy fire power and a disposition for the high ground, making them a good counter to super mutants. What could be occurring is that in being the largest populations in those areas, super mutants realize they are too much of an effort to fight making them leave to less defended zones.
The first time you find gunners plaza and the guy or girl on the roof with the mini nuke launcher really drive that message home and learned to steer clear of that area
Yeah plus the brother hood is in the south too with the prydwen there’s a ton of BOS patrols there that would cut down any and all mutants or ghouls etc
So weird that a somewhat deep level of detail exists for these random factions across the Commonwealth but a lot of that nuance does not similarly exist in the main story
I always thought there’s probably a difference between the writers who make the environmental stories, background text lore, voice lines, and the main story
Someone actually made a very good point. If you play the game narritively, it sucks cuz it tries to send you straight into Diamond city. But if you play it in the way of Looter-shooter exploration RPG without paying attention to the main quest,it's amazing.
@@MrDonut-mb6msI have this theory too: there are two writing teams at Bethesda. One does the main story and one all the side quests and dlc like The Pitt, Broken Steel, Far Harbour. The latter team is so much better than the main story one.
So you did find out how Fist is important in Super Mutant hierarchy in Commonwealth. You did really good work in your research on this topic, since not everyone has spotted how organize this group can be.
I've recently become a bit curious about Natick Bank's importance to the supermutants and deathclaws alike. I recently visited there and counted no fewer than 7 deathclaws in the area surrounding the town. directly east of there, right on the border of the map, there is a behemoth that spawns at a electrical transformer station that will start duking it out with nearby deathclaws. I've never found a deathclaw nest in the area to suggest it's a nesting ground like the Lynn Woods area, but despite it's low mutey population, the nearby behemoth might suggest that taking this area is a higher priority, than we might initially assume.
I agree with all but the last statement. The behemoth wouldnt indicate that the muteys sent it to take the area. Behemoths are essentially animals that answer to no one and only tolerate the company of other mutants. Atleast from what I've seen and heard.
Is naticks bank the one place where it’s a walled off squared with like a church, and inside there’s always a death claw and mutants or am I thinking of the wrong place?
@@Theegreygaming I just passed the spot in my new playthrough and was wondering the same thing, it’s close to a small raider camp at a motel type of area with a pool, I just figured the super mutants had attacked that spot, and the surviving raiders fled to that motel, and while the mutants were trying to set up camp the death claw heard the commotion of the fight and attacked
As far as the fate of the Commonwealth mutants. I think that as time goes on and their numbers dwindle I can see two things possibly happening. 1: The mutants consolidate their power and instead of many warlords and raiding parties they instead fall under one banner. They would likely hold up in a secure location. Which I think the Glowing Sea would be the perfect location. Yes it's FAR away from their normal raiding paths, but the natural protection that the highly irradiated and dangerous area means that any human faction looking to wipe them out will have a tough time doing so. 2: With their numbers dwindling the mutants could simply migrate to a new area, either in search of more mutant groups to join or find a way to make more mutants themselves. Or to simply find a easier target to raid. We already see this happening with the Far Harbor mutants who migrated there from Boston.
I think it's likely they would retreat close to the Glowing Sea, but not right into it (Due to problems with sourcing food, water, scrap, guns, armor, and ammunition), places like Natick, the Coast Guard Pier (longer shot, but it's close enough), or Somerville Place). Personally, I'd like to think they built a bunch of wood and scrap boats, similar to the ones used by the Orks in Lord of the Rings (Return of The King or The Two Towers, cant remember which), and then sailed to Spectacle Island to setup shop.
Not sure if it’s cannon if that blind super mutant gets killed by us or not (can’t remember his name but he’s at the outpost) he speaks pretty clearly and seems pretty advanced for a super mutant, assuming that over time they can adapt to speak more fluent and understand more they could end up like strong or faux maybe even like that one talking mutant from Vegas can’t remember his name but he spoke very well and was friendly with some other mutants and nightkin
About the loyalty to their leader and how you only have to kill the boss to destroy the group, I think that most mutants are just not smart enough to think for themselves so much, so those who are smarter rise to power and without them the other mutants literally wouldn’t know what to do
Regarding the Supermutant behemoths in the low-level-areas at 4:00 ~ish: My impression was that because of the Behemoths there where no other higher lvl enemies. Gameplaywise it hightens the contrast, (after slaying a few gouls and molerats suddenly you get jumped by a behemoths... ) and lorewise it could mean that they as an Apexpredator would simply not allow any other predators beside him.
I'm happy to see this series continue! I love deep dive world building. On the internal politics of commonwealth super mutants, Strong says something to the effect of "Brothers share everything," so I always took that to mean that infighting is rare and that they're wholly focused on the common good of the collective.
Just to advise, on Survival mode, if you trigger the encounter between Diamond City Security and the Super Mutants at mid-level, the Super Mutants overpower Diamond City Security. I've witnessed it several times, once on at level 25, there was a legendary Super Mutant variant that decimated Diamond City Security. When that happens they effectively held the encampment and skirmished with Diamond City Security Guards everytime one did it's rounds. It certainly made Diamond City an interesting place to visit!
They never stop respawning for me which was annoying when I was attempting to build up hang mans alley, everytime you visit the area theres loud gunfire from that battle over and over
I've logged a lot of time in fallout 4, and I learned early on that ALL of the settlement quests just require that you kill the leader. No matter what group, raider, mutant, or ghoul.
Really hope you're doing either gunners or triggermen in the next one, great concept for a series BTW! You kinda got me into Fallout 4 again. Also, it makes sense that Super mutants would have other goals than the ones in FO3 since they don't actually have acces to the FEV. They don't really strike me as raiders necessarily, more like Barbarians or Vikings, they care alot about strength, they look down on humans and want to kill and bask in the gore and violence, they have suicidebombers, they don't care about dying, that's the reason they don't stay in the glowing sea, they want to be close to people they can kill and don't care about the risks. Lastly i just wanna pitch an idea for a future fallout game, i would love it some day if we got a semi-intelligent behemoth boss of supermutants that has this giant throne and a couple of pet deathclaws, as well as cages of baby deathclaws, i think it could be a promising concept.
Your description of that potential behemoth boss reminds me of Throg from warhammer fantasy. An extremely large and powerful monster made more dangerous by having genuine intelligence.
I have a theory about suiciders; I think it might be a form of ultimate punishment for say cowardice, stealing from the boss, or some other form of offense. Just a theory of mine because it makes so little sense to just throw away a mutant unless you had a good reason.
@@Paag603 yeah. That would be quite awesome. Unfortunately I don't know much about creating maps and only a little bit about coding. But it would be a cool project though.
@shedninjareal me too! Each and every video shows clear dedication to the craft, strong content creation skills, and a personality that seems to be as in love with learning (and sharing that knowledge) as I am! Honestly, I wish I could do more to support RadKing than just... giving praise and trying to boost interaction. But until I am able to do more, I will continue doing what I can 😂
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There is a single super mutant suicider that has a little living space inside of a train car on the train tracks just south of gunner plaza. His bed is made from rope and the frame of a old car and he has a little teddy bear on the bed, it’s kinda cute
When talking about instances of Behemoths working with regular mutants you said that the only one was in Far Harbor, but then spoke of Fort Strong without mentioning the Behemoth that seemed to be sort of leading the mutants there
That's kind of obviously what's happening. The institute is kidnapping people and turning them into super mutants, they're not going to waste potential test subjects just because they plan on replacing that person with a Synth.
That’s what I’ve thought for awhile. That at least for the last few decades since the creation of the first Gen3, the people abducted to be replaced have been turned into Super Mutants and released. At least until Virgil destroyed the FEV lab. Before then, about 50-60 years ago, I know that the Institute was trying to use FEV for the “perfect machines/synths” project so they discarded the rejects from that. But my theory is that after the creation of the Gen3 Synth the FEV abductions continued partially to deal with the replacement captives, but partially to keep the Commonwealth weak and divided.
I know you didn't take individual Super Mutant encounters into consideration. But there is a bizarre encounter I found with a lone suicider. The mutant erected a small camp/dwelling within a train car just south of Gunner Plaza following the tracks just before hitting the boundary to the map. It's an unmarked location. After you mentioned the loyalty and fanaticism of suicide mutants, it made me think of how bizarre and out of character this lone suicider, being this far south, was acting.
About the mutants in the Vim! Pop factory: the terminal entries in the factory seem to suggest that Grun, the behemoth, led the group because of his strength. He was apparently losing cognitive abilities, becoming more and more aggressive and less and less intelligent as he grew in size and strength. This is consistent with what we know about behemoths. Super mutants who live long enough don't die from old age. They just keep growing bigger and dumber, seemingly infinitely or until they can no longer find enough food to support their massive bodies. If you look at a behemoth up close, you can see that it is deformed, seemingly by its muscle mass growing too fast for the bone structure to keep up. That seems like another likely cause of death for behemoths who don't get killed by an army of heavily armed assailants. I don't know if there is any certain information telling if _all_ super mutants are potential behemoths, or if only some of them will grow to that extreme.
Complete conjecture about the placement of the Super Mutants in the commonwealth: The Institute began disposing of Super Mutants by teleporting them several stories into the air at random places in the commonwealth. Randomness would avoid creating a pattern for the surface dwellers to notice. Due to the randomness of the teleportation, occasionally a Super Mutant would survive the process inside a high rise building. From these elevated positions, they set up raiding bases and began to scavenge the surrounding areas for food, weapons, and rope to make gorebags. The Institute became aware of the surviving Super Mutants, however they didn't stop because the Super Mutants destabilized the largest communities in the commonwealth, and actively reduced the raider population. This could also provide the reason that the Institute never stopped producing Super Mutants, even while Virgil notes that their experiments seem fruitless.
I think some vault 87 super mutants made it to the Commonwealth and integrated themselves with the Institute mutants. The main reason why I think this is because Strong will occasionally say "No green stuff here". If the Commonwealth mutants only gain new members from the institute,then why would they look for FEV? As far as they should know,the only way to get new mutants is to wait for the institute to create new ones. Then again,I don't know what the process is for them to be turned and released,so maybe they know what FEV is.
That's very interesting. The vault 87 mutants are nearly limitless in recruits as it is unlikely that they will ever be fully removed due to the lethal radiation so having some migrate north and speaking of "green stuff" that can make more supermutants. This obviously something mutant leaders would want so they probably have all raiding party's report back on any green stuff
Hammer and Fist… Hammerfist! Those are some very interesting observations. And it makes a lot of sense, given the general situation, origin and background. I think Long Wharfs odd gun-placements was an idea to tie in with that cut-content of the Vault under the sea. Nothing else makes sense to me.
With CIT being the main point of insertion for operatives, it's possible that the Institute has chosen Boston as their designated place to discard super mutants instead of Cambridge. This would at least keep the Charles River between them, all with little extra energy used on teleportation. This could also help explain why super mutants are far more concentrated in Boston than Cambridge, where they technically originate.
The cut content for sailor hat wearing mutants would have been fun to find in game. As it would imply that the Mutants are taking up seat fairing, maybe even fishing, and would have been good foreshadowing for those Super Mutants we’d later meet in Far Harbor.
in the super mutant map, i cant tell but i think you might've missed the scripted behemoth right next to the recon bunker with the Paladin, love the video as always! praise be to atoms holy glory!
So I didn't bring this up the first time I watched the video because I thought it might be a tad pedantic, but if you do not bring the cure to Virgil in time, he devolves and starts acting much like a super mutant does, and tries to attack you. Would be interesting if there had been something there, maybe he says something specific that can be analyzed, or maybe there is a terminal entry after he turns, etc. anyways, great video! I love this series so far. Can't wait for the gunners, I really think there was a missed opportunity to make that a faction you can side with.
Awesome video as always!! Also the library does kinda of a have a mission, daisy at good neighbor asks you to clear the place to return the overdue books. i can't wait for the gunners and far harbor and Nuka world!
Malden's an interesting location. Super Mutants control the hospital, and raiders hold the metro, but are under attack by synths. Nearby, there's Vault 75, where the Gunners hold the Vault as a base, and nearby is a horde of Ghouls. I'd say in terms of fighting, Malden could very well be the biggest hotzone for gunfights, after downtown Boston.
I'm curious about the groups that found themselves in Far Harbor, they could give insight to potential numbers of mutants in areas outside the Commonwealth. It's possible that the biggest reason for the lack of mutants in the early game can also be attributed to the blocked railway north of Beantown, which restricted mutant flow. Lastly, it's perfectly plausible that the distribution of the mutants is simply down to being teleported aboveground to CIT to save power and then being driven out by the synths.
Super mutant groups being concentrated around CIT hoping to scoop up any new mutants sounds interesting. Would also have been neat if you were able to get your super mutant companion by scooping him up first.
as someone who in the real world lives in the next town over from Natick, i couldn't help but chuckle at your pronunciation of the town "Nah tick" the proper pronunciation of the town is a long a like in cake, so it's "nay · tuhk" also i think you'd be proud of me considering that if you scale the fallout 4 map correctly over the same area of the state of Massachusetts, i live in the crater of atom, so in a sense, I am one of atoms children, who in my lifetime will be bestowed upon by Atom himself the single greatest gift, glorious division.
I think it would have been a really cool idea if they had a jacobstown like settlement in the glowing sea with a bunch of neutral super mutants oh you could befriend and visit or take missions to kill them. But a fortified supermutant Town out in the glowing sea would be kind of cool they picked that spot because they want to stay out of where humans come across them so they don't have problems. And they're willing to trade with people who show up peacefully
Thanks for doing this cartography series, its research I didn't know I needed for my fanfic sourcebook for another region. I can use you map data to make my regions work to similarly scaled numbers and logic - I'm trying to scale it in Bethesda size. The idea of Super Mutants as boatless Viking has inspired me to work out the logic of raiding seasons, winter camps and the politics, economics and logistics of a post apocalypse dark age. many thanks
Super Mutants don't fight with each other, and share everything. Strong says as much in his companion dialogue. They consider each other "brothers." I would speculate that the F.E.V. compels them to cooperate with others infected with it, or at least dampens their aggression towards other infected. If Ghouls are involved with F.E.V. as well, this would explain the comment in FO3 that Muties don't attack ghouls.
Hey man, just wanted to say thanks, love putting on these vids to listen to and learn from, love the effort you put into these and its always a treat to have a new vid pop up on my feed
These videos are so great, its just so interesting to me to watch these and know more about the world of fallout 4, i do t really know how to explain it. Great Video dude!
Amazing series. The first time I've seen someone do a deep dive on both the mechanics of the level design and the lore of the series. Keep up the great work!
I think some supermutants may have come into the commonwealth from elsewhere. thye seems to search for the green glow, that is FEV, and only supermutants from the capital wasteland could tell them about this.
Treat it like you are looking for a midsized predator like a bobcat or coyote. You don't see them in areas held by bigger predators. But at the same time the prey has to be worth it. That's why you don't see them in the red area the predators are stronger than most of the supers so they avoid the area. As for the blue the 2 behemoths use up everything in that area well that is till the player wakes up and makes 2 settlements. Before that the blue is almost void of any real game. Plus you have the deathclaw that lives up in the blue area
31:00 Yes the only time we see supermutant be willing to kill one of their own is with Strong. If not for the fact that he claims they are going to execute him it would seems that the supermutants have a taboo against killing their own kind.
Another point with the institute sending mutants “close to home” is maybe they don’t really want to do that because they need precision recourses or ares to keep there synths safe when teleporting them above ground so they send the kit and in smaller pockets further away..?
There are actually two examples of super mutants working with behemoths in Fallout 4, those being Grun in Far Harbor and the behemoth that is seen at Fort Strong during the quest Show No Mercy
One thing I never did understand is how the Children of Atom survive in the glowing sea. I'm over level 40 in Mk V Enclave X-02 "Black Devil" power armor with ADA upgraded to basically an assaultron death machine, and the Sea still makes me nervous. The radiation alone should kill them in a matter of minutes.
Great video. There were some points I did not consider like the glowing sea why they didn't make their mark there. The truth is that super mutants in FO4 are much more intelligent than in FO3. I always wonder how the super mutants on far harbour came to the island. That in itself is a sign on their intelligence, either knowledge of swimming or creating/using a boat. There were no way for the institute to actually send them there, the power needed for it must be insane.
Love these! Could do this with the Gunners, or with the factions in Fallout 3! Also, you didn't include Far Harbor super mutant cartography - could be a cool video. I'm not super clear on how they got there so it'd be cool to see your theories.
You know talks about the various conflicts makes me wonder if they could have implemented a "calendar" difficulty/game world change. for example after 60 in game days, with no player intervention (aka clearing a location) a super mutant group would have taken over a raider location, showing they are indeed expanding over time. maybe even unique bosses would only show up if the player allows a new group to take over, giving an interesting choice or even unintended reward
I think the reason the super mutants in FO4 are so raider like is because they follow a “monkey see, monkey do.” Philosophy but it’s more like “Mutant see, Mutant Eat.” In their case.
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i don't know if this was intentional but as he says "very effective ability to wage combat" as the vertibird is crashing to the ground gave my quite a hearty laugh
Great video Radking, really hope you keep this series up for other types of enemies! I do wanted to point out a few things about the molecular relay: loading screens suggest that it was completed "nearly a hundred years ago", which would point towards sometime AFTER 2187. This can be problematic because not only the FEV project itself started on 2178, but in 2180 the Minutemen made one of their greatest achievements: they defended Diamond City from a large Super Mutant attack. In other words, it is suggested that before the molecular relay was actually functional, the Institute releasing Super Mutants in such large numbers that they became a threat to Diamond City, and all these mutants were... for the lack of a better term... manually released from the Institute directly. By the way, I have been wondering if there might have been an exodus of Capital Wasteland Super Mutants after the events of FO3, possibly after 2282: -In FO3 we find out that Vault 87 has finally ran out of FEV (the tanks are indicated to be fully depleted), which is why the Super Mutants are looking for the location of other vaults with the hope of finding more "green stuff". -This means that at the latest, by the time the Lone Wanderer enters Vault 87, the Super Mutants have lost the ability to increase their numbers, in other words, from that point forward their numbers can only diminish as they continue engaging threats like the BoS. -In 2282 Arthur Maxson killed Shepherd, a Super Mutant leader "who was attempting to re-organize the Capital Wasteland's Super Mutants", according to BoS records on the Prydwen. -My guess is that things must have gotten really bad between 2277-2282 and Shepherd made one last push to bring together the remaining mutants, but ultimately failed. -This could further suggest that the Super Mutant threat in the Capital Wasteland finally began dying down after this event, which would finally enable the BoS to build up their strength and in turn enable their expedition to the Commonwealth in 2287. Do you think some Super Mutants from the Capital Wasteland could have ended up in the Commonwealth afterwards?
38:06 I think that this is because the Institute wants samples from the Super Mutants. They don't necessarily care if they all die, or continue to operate as a group. They just want some sanples to study. Also, Strong reveals a lot about Super Mutant culture in his dialouge. Both in his companion "admires you" talks, and his passing dialouge. From parts of it, it seems that Super Mutants are the only group that is actually communist, not the socialism of the Soviet Union or China. Looking into him would give you more insight into the culture of Super Mutants in the Commonwealth.
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 technically, by the original textbook definitions, no nation on Earth has been truly communist (despite any names). The most they got to is socialism, where the government controls the distribution of resources. A true communist society as written by Karl Marx has not yet been achieved.
Small scale communes are doable, when social cohesion and trust is high. Can't do it on a national or even city scale. Can't know or trust enough to give up yours for someone else.
This video was really fun, I enjoyed it a lot. Something to consider with the super mutants, they might not be merely discarded by the Institute. It's possible they may have been released with the loose order of intentionally causing chaos in the Commonwealth, to keep the area divided and easily exploited
I always figured they released the SM underwater. Through the back door the Minute Men come in. I think of it more Roman. You prove to your patron how useful you are and ask for more troops to strike further. This strike leader had 'some' smarts. Maybie he was sent away so the other mutants wouldnt fall under his sway. :D
Nice idea. Kinda like Vikings, where setting out to raid and possibly settle took pressure off the local population, while also nominally expanding their reach. I want mutants to be able to reproduce. I don't care what people think, Supermutants and Brotherhood of Steel are the face of the Fallout Franchise. Everything else can come and go, but I need me some Supermutants and Men in Power Armor! :D
My thoughts on the super mutants in the common wealth were raiders given their raider like behavior. It’s even possible that someone of them were gunners.
A lot of people tend to generalize 'Bethesda Super Mutants' as just Orcs with guns, which could be argued is accurate in Fallout 3's Vault 87 Super Mutants, but seem to overlook just how (relatively) intelligent Institute Super Mutants are in comparison. Institute Super Mutants are capable of setting up moderately elaborate traps, are fiercely loyal to their chosen leadership, and have a good amount of technical knowledge given they can set up private-security-grade turrets and alarm systems. They're barbaric and almost universally hostile to humans, sure, but they have their own culture and societal structure that makes them a unique breed of Mutant in the wasteland.
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The Synths in CIT are likely there because, according to Virgil, CIT is the primary insertion point for field operatives via teleportation. So keeping it clear ensures that Institute surface teams aren't spawn killed
No one ever likes having their spawn points camped.
To think about it, if the SS doesn’t help the brotherhood I would think they would still sooner or later figure out that they are somewhere close to CIT and sooner or later find out they are teleporting
I thought Father had them follow him since I encountered that when I went to see him.
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"What is it with supermutants and toys?" part of their theme seems to be innocence, like Strong not understanding the phase 'milk of human kindness' being the source of humanities strength, they often react to violence like it is a game, and the suiciders might mean they don't understand their own mortality.
I think they understand I think they become suiciders out of penitence for some crime.
I think it's why they often wear chains when they're suiciders and aren't wearing any armor. As some sort of final mortal act to repent
I'm asking myself the same and also why there are so many dead cats in the FEV lab cells. Why are there dead cats at all ?
@@hyperturbotechnomike could be that the institute decided to consolidate their resources and exterminate them, or it could be that they're cloning them
@@hyperturbotechnomike I think the Supermutants are scared of felines!!
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I always figured they just weren't in the glowing sea because there's no real nearby food sources.
I agree. They dont strike me as the kind of people that would willingly hunt in an organised manner.
I mean there's Radscorpions and Deathclaws there, both of those creatures' meat is in their leveled list and have a chance to drop in their loot upon death so they're in their diet
Deathclaw is delicious :D
Austin family and the rest of you. Don't forget that there are a constant source of rad-roaches and other bugs crawling everywhere.
@@ayythatsmikey maybe the deathclaws and other creatures only thrive there since super mutants aren't there.
Yeah they still show up elsewhere but not nearly as frequently. If mutants went there they'd run out of deathclaw mutants.
Also no humans to eat in the glowing sea except for the crater.
It's smarter to remain outside the glowing sea.
it's really interesitng how every instance of inter-mutant conflict we've seen on the east coast(Fawkes and Strong) didnt involve killing but instead involved imprisonment, with the mutants keeping the traitor in a holding cell instead of just killing them. It really adds to the theory of intense loyalty to the species and understanding that they cant create more and refusal to ever kill one another.
Yeah, also heard super mutants freely share everything they have too
The Fallout 4 mutants are capable of easily killing each other if they act out of line by agreeing with humans or showing higher intelligence than the standard mutant.
The Super Mutants led by Fist were planning on killing Strong and were making bets on how many times his body would bounce off the ground once they pushed him off Trinity Tower just because he took the readings of MacBeth too literally after agreeing with Rex.
Erickson from Far Harbor used to be in a group led by Grun, a Behemoth leading the Vim! Pop Factory. He had to go into hiding because Grun almost squashed him to death after trying to give some intelligent suggestions to them.
@@Nyxael5845 basically they only will kill the "uppity" ones who exhibit greater intelligence because they associate it with weakness.
@@Nyxael5845 in addition, in Fallout 3 Uncle Leo tells the player that the other mutants got very aggressive when he told them they should stop killing so much and that "they would have killed him if he hadn't run away"
Fawkes also describes how his captors had destroyed the terminal he had in his cell, which was the only passtime he had and only way to keep himself sane, just to torment him. One of Fawkes combat lines when fighting SMs is "You'll pay dearly for all you did to me!" so they were torturing him in other ways too. They weren't keeping him alive out of respect for their own.
This video made me think. What if one The Institute projects was to combine synths and super mutants?
The blind super mutant choked me up a bit, there’s still some remnant of humanity within them. Really does remind me of the super mutants in older titles.
Strong dislike that
I always feel a little bad after killing a blind super mutant... Should've just blown his knee caps and built him a chair instead of for Mama Murphy
@@carloscolon3331 Strong is just the Scientist super mutant from the first 2 games, if he himself was a failure and didn't retain his intelligence, Bro is all in on theh super mutant supremacy, believes firmly in united mutants to the point of getting mad when humans don't help eachother, and hates weakness.
You really made me realise how much of a missed opportunity the whole "Institute teleporting mutants" things was, having NPCs comment on how super mutant just randomly appear in a specific area would have really built up the mystique of the area.
Plus it could have been a chance to delve into Super Mutant society and what they think was going on, do they believe it is the act of some Super Mutant god? If so it would explain why the boston super mutants have a superiority complex a bit.
There's a lot of story tell potential there.
Yeah, it would be cool to have Super mutants fighting over the "Spawn Zones" And maybe even whole battles in those areas
It would've made a good inspiration for some wasteland folklore, maybe legends of mutants spawning from the ground, with unlucky scavengers who stray into the wrong locations being buried in the soil to be turned
The Super Mutants likely occupy toy areas to secure toys, which they can play with in their leisure time between combats.
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I love these kinds of videos. I think the reason the Super Mutants are so cordial with each other is because of some of the bits of culture Strong mentions. There is no infighting because Super Mutants share everything, they like it when they help each other for no ulterior motives, and are a lot more unified than the Raiders. It’s actually really interesting to see Strong’s likes and dislikes and they give great insight into Super Mutant culture.
Yeah, I read on tv tropes that strong likes doing the minutemen quests because you’re selflessly helping others like the mutants do
They will even kill themselves just to help their fellow mutants win a battle. Mutants are really something special
Super mutants in the capital wasteland do show signs of this communality. Apparently the reason they put gorebags on long stakes or somewhere high up is so behemoths get to eat too
What a lovable bunch
@@Digitaaliklosettivery cute if true
About the northeast and southeast: a thing that both areas have in common is a larger gunner presence. The gunners having heavy fire power and a disposition for the high ground, making them a good counter to super mutants. What could be occurring is that in being the largest populations in those areas, super mutants realize they are too much of an effort to fight making them leave to less defended zones.
The first time you find gunners plaza and the guy or girl on the roof with the mini nuke launcher really drive that message home and learned to steer clear of that area
Yeah plus the brother hood is in the south too with the prydwen there’s a ton of BOS patrols there that would cut down any and all mutants or ghouls etc
The biggest issue supermutants have is range can you imagine a mutant with a sniper rifle
So weird that a somewhat deep level of detail exists for these random factions across the Commonwealth but a lot of that nuance does not similarly exist in the main story
I always thought there’s probably a difference between the writers who make the environmental stories, background text lore, voice lines, and the main story
I kinda like that, it just leaves me ignoring the mains story and just exploring and collecting everything
Someone actually made a very good point. If you play the game narritively, it sucks cuz it tries to send you straight into Diamond city. But if you play it in the way of Looter-shooter exploration RPG without paying attention to the main quest,it's amazing.
@@MrDonut-mb6msI have this theory too: there are two writing teams at Bethesda. One does the main story and one all the side quests and dlc like The Pitt, Broken Steel, Far Harbour. The latter team is so much better than the main story one.
@@ergoproxy-gx2cq Todd is the director so he must deal with the main quest and main story writing team. This really speaks to his level of competence.
So you did find out how Fist is important in Super Mutant hierarchy in Commonwealth. You did really good work in your research on this topic, since not everyone has spotted how organize this group can be.
For some reason,I always interpreted Fist as being a Vault 87 mutant and the reason he rose to power was because of his experience.
I've recently become a bit curious about Natick Bank's importance to the supermutants and deathclaws alike. I recently visited there and counted no fewer than 7 deathclaws in the area surrounding the town. directly east of there, right on the border of the map, there is a behemoth that spawns at a electrical transformer station that will start duking it out with nearby deathclaws. I've never found a deathclaw nest in the area to suggest it's a nesting ground like the Lynn Woods area, but despite it's low mutey population, the nearby behemoth might suggest that taking this area is a higher priority, than we might initially assume.
I agree with all but the last statement. The behemoth wouldnt indicate that the muteys sent it to take the area. Behemoths are essentially animals that answer to no one and only tolerate the company of other mutants. Atleast from what I've seen and heard.
Now you have me curious!
Brotherhood patrols go out that way as well... what are they looking for?
Is naticks bank the one place where it’s a walled off squared with like a church, and inside there’s always a death claw and mutants or am I thinking of the wrong place?
@@faded1887 that's the one.
@@Theegreygaming I just passed the spot in my new playthrough and was wondering the same thing, it’s close to a small raider camp at a motel type of area with a pool, I just figured the super mutants had attacked that spot, and the surviving raiders fled to that motel, and while the mutants were trying to set up camp the death claw heard the commotion of the fight and attacked
As far as the fate of the Commonwealth mutants.
I think that as time goes on and their numbers dwindle I can see two things possibly happening.
1: The mutants consolidate their power and instead of many warlords and raiding parties they instead fall under one banner.
They would likely hold up in a secure location. Which I think the Glowing Sea would be the perfect location.
Yes it's FAR away from their normal raiding paths, but the natural protection that the highly irradiated and dangerous area means that any human faction looking to wipe them out will have a tough time doing so.
2: With their numbers dwindling the mutants could simply migrate to a new area, either in search of more mutant groups to join or find a way to make more mutants themselves. Or to simply find a easier target to raid.
We already see this happening with the Far Harbor mutants who migrated there from Boston.
The Institute could try cloning them.
@@skywise001 Who do you think made them to start with ?
I think it's likely they would retreat close to the Glowing Sea, but not right into it (Due to problems with sourcing food, water, scrap, guns, armor, and ammunition), places like Natick, the Coast Guard Pier (longer shot, but it's close enough), or Somerville Place).
Personally, I'd like to think they built a bunch of wood and scrap boats, similar to the ones used by the Orks in Lord of the Rings (Return of The King or The Two Towers, cant remember which), and then sailed to Spectacle Island to setup shop.
Assuming a Minutemen victory, I wouldn’t be shocked if Commonwealth Super Mutants were slowly wiped out by a provisional government’s expansion.
Not sure if it’s cannon if that blind super mutant gets killed by us or not (can’t remember his name but he’s at the outpost) he speaks pretty clearly and seems pretty advanced for a super mutant, assuming that over time they can adapt to speak more fluent and understand more they could end up like strong or faux maybe even like that one talking mutant from Vegas can’t remember his name but he spoke very well and was friendly with some other mutants and nightkin
this Cartography series is absolutely incdredible
About the loyalty to their leader and how you only have to kill the boss to destroy the group, I think that most mutants are just not smart enough to think for themselves so much, so those who are smarter rise to power and without them the other mutants literally wouldn’t know what to do
Regarding the Supermutant behemoths in the low-level-areas at 4:00 ~ish: My impression was that because of the Behemoths there where no other higher lvl enemies. Gameplaywise it hightens the contrast, (after slaying a few gouls and molerats suddenly you get jumped by a behemoths... ) and lorewise it could mean that they as an Apexpredator would simply not allow any other predators beside him.
I'm happy to see this series continue! I love deep dive world building.
On the internal politics of commonwealth super mutants, Strong says something to the effect of "Brothers share everything," so I always took that to mean that infighting is rare and that they're wholly focused on the common good of the collective.
That or they keep the infighting to one on one conflicts.
If muties could reproduce they really would be the supreme race just like the master said lol
Almost like the super mutants are communists, which was why the bombs dropped in the 1st place. In other words... "war never changes"
Just to advise, on Survival mode, if you trigger the encounter between Diamond City Security and the Super Mutants at mid-level, the Super Mutants overpower Diamond City Security. I've witnessed it several times, once on at level 25, there was a legendary Super Mutant variant that decimated Diamond City Security. When that happens they effectively held the encampment and skirmished with Diamond City Security Guards everytime one did it's rounds. It certainly made Diamond City an interesting place to visit!
They never stop respawning for me which was annoying when I was attempting to build up hang mans alley, everytime you visit the area theres loud gunfire from that battle over and over
Weird, when i play on survival its often an even fight and i usually get there around level 12-15
@@axelbrackeniers5488I'm assuming that's because you're intervening in the fight
I've logged a lot of time in fallout 4, and I learned early on that ALL of the settlement quests just require that you kill the leader. No matter what group, raider, mutant, or ghoul.
Really hope you're doing either gunners or triggermen in the next one, great concept for a series BTW! You kinda got me into Fallout 4 again.
Also, it makes sense that Super mutants would have other goals than the ones in FO3 since they don't actually have acces to the FEV. They don't really strike me as raiders necessarily, more like Barbarians or Vikings, they care alot about strength, they look down on humans and want to kill and bask in the gore and violence, they have suicidebombers, they don't care about dying, that's the reason they don't stay in the glowing sea, they want to be close to people they can kill and don't care about the risks.
Lastly i just wanna pitch an idea for a future fallout game, i would love it some day if we got a semi-intelligent behemoth boss of supermutants that has this giant throne and a couple of pet deathclaws, as well as cages of baby deathclaws, i think it could be a promising concept.
Your description of that potential behemoth boss reminds me of Throg from warhammer fantasy. An extremely large and powerful monster made more dangerous by having genuine intelligence.
@@capadociaash8003 it could be a genuine challenge an unavoidable boss in the next game
Vikings were literally raiders
And "barbarians" referred to non Hellenistic cultures
But hey imagine knowing what words mean
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 yo did you like your own comment because I can’t imagine op did, also you need to take a chill pill
@@cyniex3728unavoidable boss? 😴
I have a theory about suiciders; I think it might be a form of ultimate punishment for say cowardice, stealing from the boss, or some other form of offense. Just a theory of mine because it makes so little sense to just throw away a mutant unless you had a good reason.
Glad you’re continuing this series, makes me appreciate the world of fallout 4 a bit more knowing the locations were more thought out
Me too
And its cool to have a more detailed map of everything in the commonwealth.
@@robinmuller6392 honestly it’d be nice to have a mod that changes it to this
@@Paag603 yeah. That would be quite awesome. Unfortunately I don't know much about creating maps and only a little bit about coding. But it would be a cool project though.
If you look for the environmental story telling in most games they have alot of hints towards those little things
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So much work goes into these, I'm in awe. Thanks for all the hard work, I hope you get an equal return for all of it!
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@shedninjareal me too! Each and every video shows clear dedication to the craft, strong content creation skills, and a personality that seems to be as in love with learning (and sharing that knowledge) as I am! Honestly, I wish I could do more to support RadKing than just... giving praise and trying to boost interaction. But until I am able to do more, I will continue doing what I can 😂
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Thank you for the kind words!
There is a single super mutant suicider that has a little living space inside of a train car on the train tracks just south of gunner plaza. His bed is made from rope and the frame of a old car and he has a little teddy bear on the bed, it’s kinda cute
When talking about instances of Behemoths working with regular mutants you said that the only one was in Far Harbor, but then spoke of Fort Strong without mentioning the Behemoth that seemed to be sort of leading the mutants there
I'm only 12 minutes in but I had a thought, what if the Super Mutant are mutated from the people that the Institute replace with Synths
That's an interesting idea.
That's kind of obviously what's happening. The institute is kidnapping people and turning them into super mutants, they're not going to waste potential test subjects just because they plan on replacing that person with a Synth.
That’s what I’ve thought for awhile. That at least for the last few decades since the creation of the first Gen3, the people abducted to be replaced have been turned into Super Mutants and released. At least until Virgil destroyed the FEV lab.
Before then, about 50-60 years ago, I know that the Institute was trying to use FEV for the “perfect machines/synths” project so they discarded the rejects from that.
But my theory is that after the creation of the Gen3 Synth the FEV abductions continued partially to deal with the replacement captives, but partially to keep the Commonwealth weak and divided.
This series is top tier.
I know you didn't take individual Super Mutant encounters into consideration. But there is a bizarre encounter I found with a lone suicider. The mutant erected a small camp/dwelling within a train car just south of Gunner Plaza following the tracks just before hitting the boundary to the map. It's an unmarked location. After you mentioned the loyalty and fanaticism of suicide mutants, it made me think of how bizarre and out of character this lone suicider, being this far south, was acting.
About the mutants in the Vim! Pop factory: the terminal entries in the factory seem to suggest that Grun, the behemoth, led the group because of his strength. He was apparently losing cognitive abilities, becoming more and more aggressive and less and less intelligent as he grew in size and strength.
This is consistent with what we know about behemoths. Super mutants who live long enough don't die from old age. They just keep growing bigger and dumber, seemingly infinitely or until they can no longer find enough food to support their massive bodies.
If you look at a behemoth up close, you can see that it is deformed, seemingly by its muscle mass growing too fast for the bone structure to keep up. That seems like another likely cause of death for behemoths who don't get killed by an army of heavily armed assailants.
I don't know if there is any certain information telling if _all_ super mutants are potential behemoths, or if only some of them will grow to that extreme.
Complete conjecture about the placement of the Super Mutants in the commonwealth:
The Institute began disposing of Super Mutants by teleporting them several stories into the air at random places in the commonwealth. Randomness would avoid creating a pattern for the surface dwellers to notice. Due to the randomness of the teleportation, occasionally a Super Mutant would survive the process inside a high rise building. From these elevated positions, they set up raiding bases and began to scavenge the surrounding areas for food, weapons, and rope to make gorebags. The Institute became aware of the surviving Super Mutants, however they didn't stop because the Super Mutants destabilized the largest communities in the commonwealth, and actively reduced the raider population. This could also provide the reason that the Institute never stopped producing Super Mutants, even while Virgil notes that their experiments seem fruitless.
“Very effective ability to wage combat” and it’s a vertibird crashing love it
I think some vault 87 super mutants made it to the Commonwealth and integrated themselves with the Institute mutants. The main reason why I think this is because Strong will occasionally say "No green stuff here". If the Commonwealth mutants only gain new members from the institute,then why would they look for FEV? As far as they should know,the only way to get new mutants is to wait for the institute to create new ones. Then again,I don't know what the process is for them to be turned and released,so maybe they know what FEV is.
That's an interesting point.
That's very interesting. The vault 87 mutants are nearly limitless in recruits as it is unlikely that they will ever be fully removed due to the lethal radiation so having some migrate north and speaking of "green stuff" that can make more supermutants. This obviously something mutant leaders would want so they probably have all raiding party's report back on any green stuff
Hammer and Fist… Hammerfist!
Those are some very interesting observations. And it makes a lot of sense, given the general situation, origin and background.
I think Long Wharfs odd gun-placements was an idea to tie in with that cut-content of the Vault under the sea. Nothing else makes sense to me.
always love to see a radking upload in my notifications!!
My favourite series so far! I hope you continue it! :D
With CIT being the main point of insertion for operatives, it's possible that the Institute has chosen Boston as their designated place to discard super mutants instead of Cambridge. This would at least keep the Charles River between them, all with little extra energy used on teleportation. This could also help explain why super mutants are far more concentrated in Boston than Cambridge, where they technically originate.
The cut content for sailor hat wearing mutants would have been fun to find in game. As it would imply that the Mutants are taking up seat fairing, maybe even fishing, and would have been good foreshadowing for those Super Mutants we’d later meet in Far Harbor.
in the super mutant map, i cant tell but i think you might've missed the scripted behemoth right next to the recon bunker with the Paladin, love the video as always! praise be to atoms holy glory!
46:03 "And very effective ability to wage combat" shows brotherhood vertibird in it's natural habitat, on fire and spinning out of control. 😂
So I didn't bring this up the first time I watched the video because I thought it might be a tad pedantic, but if you do not bring the cure to Virgil in time, he devolves and starts acting much like a super mutant does, and tries to attack you. Would be interesting if there had been something there, maybe he says something specific that can be analyzed, or maybe there is a terminal entry after he turns, etc. anyways, great video! I love this series so far. Can't wait for the gunners, I really think there was a missed opportunity to make that a faction you can side with.
This series continues to be amazing
Awesome video as always!! Also the library does kinda of a have a mission, daisy at good neighbor asks you to clear the place to return the overdue books. i can't wait for the gunners and far harbor and Nuka world!
i love that quest
Malden's an interesting location.
Super Mutants control the hospital, and raiders hold the metro, but are under attack by synths. Nearby, there's Vault 75, where the Gunners hold the Vault as a base, and nearby is a horde of Ghouls.
I'd say in terms of fighting, Malden could very well be the biggest hotzone for gunfights, after downtown Boston.
36:30 There's also Fort Strong which is the only case of supermutants and behemoths in the highest level areas.
Love this series
Ayyyy perfect timing, I was just looking for a video to listen too while I sleep! Looking forward to this one!!
I'm curious about the groups that found themselves in Far Harbor, they could give insight to potential numbers of mutants in areas outside the Commonwealth.
It's possible that the biggest reason for the lack of mutants in the early game can also be attributed to the blocked railway north of Beantown, which restricted mutant flow.
Lastly, it's perfectly plausible that the distribution of the mutants is simply down to being teleported aboveground to CIT to save power and then being driven out by the synths.
Super mutant groups being concentrated around CIT hoping to scoop up any new mutants sounds interesting.
Would also have been neat if you were able to get your super mutant companion by scooping him up first.
Oh Brother the glow is warm with your sermons.
as someone who in the real world lives in the next town over from Natick, i couldn't help but chuckle at your pronunciation of the town "Nah tick" the proper pronunciation of the town is a long a like in cake, so it's "nay · tuhk"
also i think you'd be proud of me considering that if you scale the fallout 4 map correctly over the same area of the state of Massachusetts, i live in the crater of atom, so in a sense, I am one of atoms children, who in my lifetime will be bestowed upon by Atom himself the single greatest gift, glorious division.
I think it would have been a really cool idea if they had a jacobstown like settlement in the glowing sea with a bunch of neutral super mutants oh you could befriend and visit or take missions to kill them.
But a fortified supermutant Town out in the glowing sea would be kind of cool they picked that spot because they want to stay out of where humans come across them so they don't have problems.
And they're willing to trade with people who show up peacefully
Love this series, can you make one for ghouls?
ghouls are the worst
just meatshields, they have way too much HP
itd be better balanced if they did 2x damage and had 2x less hp
Sure thing!
@@Rad_King let’s goooooo!
Feral ghouls?
@@user-vv1do1wg1jou may be playing on a very high level most Ghouls are one or 2 shot at Hard besides glowing ones and legendaries
Thanks for doing this cartography series, its research I didn't know I needed for my fanfic sourcebook for another region.
I can use you map data to make my regions work to similarly scaled numbers and logic - I'm trying to scale it in Bethesda size.
The idea of Super Mutants as boatless Viking has inspired me to work out the logic of raiding seasons, winter camps and the politics, economics and logistics of a post apocalypse dark age.
many thanks
Bro you're too good at making fallout vids 🔥🔥
I watch quite a lot of fallout channels but yours is one of my favourites. Stuff like this really itches my brain and engages me.
Super Mutants don't fight with each other, and share everything. Strong says as much in his companion dialogue. They consider each other "brothers."
I would speculate that the F.E.V. compels them to cooperate with others infected with it, or at least dampens their aggression towards other infected.
If Ghouls are involved with F.E.V. as well, this would explain the comment in FO3 that Muties don't attack ghouls.
@radking love your videos, I would love to see a Cartography series on Gunner or even Talon company!
ill spread the word ~shed
Hey man, just wanted to say thanks, love putting on these vids to listen to and learn from, love the effort you put into these and its always a treat to have a new vid pop up on my feed
These videos are so great, its just so interesting to me to watch these and know more about the world of fallout 4, i do t really know how to explain it. Great Video dude!
21:21 “The raiders are pretty heavily outmatched.”
Raider: *walks off the bridge and falls*
100% need a video like this one and the raider one on the gunners
he did one on raiders |( mostly bosses ) th-cam.com/video/yM-oRpHPaqk/w-d-xo.html
Your videos are very interesting. I loved this analysis. Thank you for sharing!
Amazing series. The first time I've seen someone do a deep dive on both the mechanics of the level design and the lore of the series. Keep up the great work!
I think some supermutants may have come into the commonwealth from elsewhere. thye seems to search for the green glow, that is FEV, and only supermutants from the capital wasteland could tell them about this.
Treat it like you are looking for a midsized predator like a bobcat or coyote. You don't see them in areas held by bigger predators. But at the same time the prey has to be worth it. That's why you don't see them in the red area the predators are stronger than most of the supers so they avoid the area. As for the blue the 2 behemoths use up everything in that area well that is till the player wakes up and makes 2 settlements. Before that the blue is almost void of any real game. Plus you have the deathclaw that lives up in the blue area
I don't think I've ever seen Diamond City Security win w/o my assistance.
I like the analysis you do with cartography. Very interesting and new way of looking at the commonwealth.
Do the Institute ever explain WHY they make Supermutants? It's so pointlessly evil it would make Montgomery Burns scratch his head.
No, the Institute never explains why. That's also why Virgil destroyed the lab iirc.
WAKE TF UP RAD KING POSTED FALLOUT CARTOGRAPHY
31:00 Yes the only time we see supermutant be willing to kill one of their own is with Strong. If not for the fact that he claims they are going to execute him it would seems that the supermutants have a taboo against killing their own kind.
Another point with the institute sending mutants “close to home” is maybe they don’t really want to do that because they need precision recourses or ares to keep there synths safe when teleporting them above ground so they send the kit and in smaller pockets further away..?
Nice! Did not expect this vid to drop, thanks for the surprise!
I can’t state enough how calming your videos are
Love the video as usual. I'd watch shorts but I like your long videos the most!
oh that you for this upload. i had a long week and rn i couldnt ask for anything better than an hour of fallout lore read by your soothing voice
There are actually two examples of super mutants working with behemoths in Fallout 4, those being Grun in Far Harbor and the behemoth that is seen at Fort Strong during the quest Show No Mercy
One thing I never did understand is how the Children of Atom survive in the glowing sea. I'm over level 40 in Mk V Enclave X-02 "Black Devil" power armor with ADA upgraded to basically an assaultron death machine, and the Sea still makes me nervous. The radiation alone should kill them in a matter of minutes.
Great video. There were some points I did not consider like the glowing sea why they didn't make their mark there.
The truth is that super mutants in FO4 are much more intelligent than in FO3.
I always wonder how the super mutants on far harbour came to the island. That in itself is a sign on their intelligence, either knowledge of swimming or creating/using a boat.
There were no way for the institute to actually send them there, the power needed for it must be insane.
Yeah, if the Institute were snooping around Far Harbor, that would be bad for the synth hideout there.
Love this series! The map is super cool
love that at 45:57 when he says that the brotherhood of steel is very capable of fighting a vertibird is crashing on screen
Love these! Could do this with the Gunners, or with the factions in Fallout 3!
Also, you didn't include Far Harbor super mutant cartography - could be a cool video. I'm not super clear on how they got there so it'd be cool to see your theories.
i think its possible
You know talks about the various conflicts makes me wonder if they could have implemented a "calendar" difficulty/game world change. for example after 60 in game days, with no player intervention (aka clearing a location) a super mutant group would have taken over a raider location, showing they are indeed expanding over time.
maybe even unique bosses would only show up if the player allows a new group to take over, giving an interesting choice or even unintended reward
Fallout: Shadow over the Commonwealth
I think the reason the super mutants in FO4 are so raider like is because they follow a “monkey see, monkey do.” Philosophy but it’s more like “Mutant see, Mutant Eat.” In their case.
There is a quest to clear the Mutants in the Boston Public Library from Daisy in Goodneigbor
This series is so exciting to me that after watching your vids on and off for like a year I'm subscribing right after I leave this comment, keep up the great work king 👑
Wow, somebody is still making Fallout 4 content. Nice!
i don't know if this was intentional but as he says "very effective ability to wage combat" as the vertibird is crashing to the ground gave my quite a hearty laugh
Sheesh coming up one 100k nice work, love the videos man
Great video Radking, really hope you keep this series up for other types of enemies!
I do wanted to point out a few things about the molecular relay: loading screens suggest that it was completed "nearly a hundred years ago", which would point towards sometime AFTER 2187.
This can be problematic because not only the FEV project itself started on 2178, but in 2180 the Minutemen made one of their greatest achievements: they defended Diamond City from a large Super Mutant attack.
In other words, it is suggested that before the molecular relay was actually functional, the Institute releasing Super Mutants in such large numbers that they became a threat to Diamond City, and all these mutants were... for the lack of a better term... manually released from the Institute directly.
By the way, I have been wondering if there might have been an exodus of Capital Wasteland Super Mutants after the events of FO3, possibly after 2282:
-In FO3 we find out that Vault 87 has finally ran out of FEV (the tanks are indicated to be fully depleted), which is why the Super Mutants are looking for the location of other vaults with the hope of finding more "green stuff".
-This means that at the latest, by the time the Lone Wanderer enters Vault 87, the Super Mutants have lost the ability to increase their numbers, in other words, from that point forward their numbers can only diminish as they continue engaging threats like the BoS.
-In 2282 Arthur Maxson killed Shepherd, a Super Mutant leader "who was attempting to re-organize the Capital Wasteland's Super Mutants", according to BoS records on the Prydwen.
-My guess is that things must have gotten really bad between 2277-2282 and Shepherd made one last push to bring together the remaining mutants, but ultimately failed.
-This could further suggest that the Super Mutant threat in the Capital Wasteland finally began dying down after this event, which would finally enable the BoS to build up their strength and in turn enable their expedition to the Commonwealth in 2287.
Do you think some Super Mutants from the Capital Wasteland could have ended up in the Commonwealth afterwards?
38:06 I think that this is because the Institute wants samples from the Super Mutants. They don't necessarily care if they all die, or continue to operate as a group. They just want some sanples to study.
Also, Strong reveals a lot about Super Mutant culture in his dialouge. Both in his companion "admires you" talks, and his passing dialouge. From parts of it, it seems that Super Mutants are the only group that is actually communist, not the socialism of the Soviet Union or China. Looking into him would give you more insight into the culture of Super Mutants in the Commonwealth.
They aren't communist but aight
The Soviet Union was communist and so was China but aight
Inb4 Hur dur not reaaaaaaaaaal communism hur dur
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 technically, by the original textbook definitions, no nation on Earth has been truly communist (despite any names). The most they got to is socialism, where the government controls the distribution of resources. A true communist society as written by Karl Marx has not yet been achieved.
Small scale communes are doable, when social cohesion and trust is high. Can't do it on a national or even city scale. Can't know or trust enough to give up yours for someone else.
@@shorewall that is true. The one fatal flaw of true Communism, trust
This video was really fun, I enjoyed it a lot. Something to consider with the super mutants, they might not be merely discarded by the Institute. It's possible they may have been released with the loose order of intentionally causing chaos in the Commonwealth, to keep the area divided and easily exploited
I always figured they released the SM underwater. Through the back door the Minute Men come in.
I think of it more Roman. You prove to your patron how useful you are and ask for more troops to strike further. This strike leader had 'some' smarts. Maybie he was sent away so the other mutants wouldnt fall under his sway. :D
Nice idea. Kinda like Vikings, where setting out to raid and possibly settle took pressure off the local population, while also nominally expanding their reach.
I want mutants to be able to reproduce. I don't care what people think, Supermutants and Brotherhood of Steel are the face of the Fallout Franchise. Everything else can come and go, but I need me some Supermutants and Men in Power Armor! :D
I love this series I've always wanted something like this keep up the great work
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUDDY 😀
You bring a whole lot of things to light that I never would have thought of, also, hope to see you get 100K subs soon.
My thoughts on the super mutants in the common wealth were raiders given their raider like behavior. It’s even possible that someone of them were gunners.
Really appreciate your work. Anxiously waiting for the gunners video
A lot of people tend to generalize 'Bethesda Super Mutants' as just Orcs with guns, which could be argued is accurate in Fallout 3's Vault 87 Super Mutants, but seem to overlook just how (relatively) intelligent Institute Super Mutants are in comparison.
Institute Super Mutants are capable of setting up moderately elaborate traps, are fiercely loyal to their chosen leadership, and have a good amount of technical knowledge given they can set up private-security-grade turrets and alarm systems. They're barbaric and almost universally hostile to humans, sure, but they have their own culture and societal structure that makes them a unique breed of Mutant in the wasteland.
These vids are next level, keep up the good work and can’t wait for the next one!!
Radking, king of the rads~ I just want you to know your videos are PERFECT to listen to while I'm at work. They've been keeping these past few days bearable. Thank you! God bless you
Same for me. I work 11p to 7a. Praise Atom