How is it a "waste of talent" for a good writer to be locked away in prison? There's nothing stopping a person from writing in prison. In fact, there probably aren't many better things one could spend their time doing when locked away in a prison cell. Just give the man a typewriter and let him go to town. I feel like releasing a convicted murderer is far more of a potential waste of innocent lives than any potential talent that might be lost by keeping them locked up.
There is a strong tradition of the saving virtues of education or "Bildung" that envisions that a person becomes somehow better in all ways by being "cultured". This has been disproven many times throughout history but seems have plaed a role here. Simply idiotic.
That’s one of the first things I thought of, too. A pen and paper or typewriter works just as well even when being used in the confinement of iron bars. The obvious choice was to just let him write all he wanted from within prison and let society stay that much more safe from Jack and his homicidal, perverted urges.
For many wealthy people, crime is more of an abstract concept, since they don't have to deal with it on any level. In my country, you'll hear these kind of people talk about criminals as "victims of society" and thanks to that, criminals walk in and out of jail. Meanwhile, all these "intellectuals" sit on their gated communities, completely separated from us plebs, while we deal with the consequences of their actions.
What an unbelievably jaw-dropping case! You put it brilliantly when you said "The lack of insight led to the deaths of at least nine people. These victims died not only due to Jack's narcissism, but due to the narcissism of these self proclaimed elites. "
Unfortunately, it's not just the elites. There's a general attitude of indifference, and the belief in re-socialization here, which causes a lot of harm to society.
Just imagine how the family of his first victim must have felt seeing Unterweger working the celebrity circuit while his supporters congratulated each other for the great thing they had done in getting him released. Even before he started killing again...
@@autumxxleaves4186 I've been saying the same for some time now. It seems my generation - maybe even that of my parents, was the last to openly pride themselves on their civility toward one another, on their manners in general really. Now, with this generation, they pride themselves on 'cancelling' each other and what they can take from another person in order to enrich themselves and they're usually congratulated by their buddies and their braindead 'followers' on social media. The ones in charge openly trying to bring our society down even encourage the entitlement, fueling the envy of the lazy whining 'oppressed' of those who worked hard for what they have. I get the sense that @all wasd trying to bait you into a response with the whole intention of arguing, not listening to your opinion.
Issei Sagawa and Charles Sobhraj come to mind :S I also had problem with the western media glamorizing the Kim Jong Un impersonator when he trolled the North Korean “cheerleaders”, cuz those girls have their families held as hostages in North Korea. Not on the same caliber but the guy didn’t care about risking other people’s lives for his 15 min
Campaigning to release a murderer. Because there’s nothing more important to spend your time doing, is there? I think it shows total disrespect to the woman he murdered, apart from disregard to the women he would come in contact with in the future. (And then kill.)
Apparently two books and plays were absolutely worth the cost of several women’s lives to those sick people. And what a coward, preying on the most vulnerable and taking the easy way out when caught again then facing what he really is.
@Peter T Yeah, excuses for grooming children in USA comes to mind, puberty blockers causing irreversible damage, a child protection service worker telling a 14 year old to sell her own body for food... ugh, the left in its full glory. Or a mother exploiting her 10 year old, telling him he's T, when he doesn't even know what that fully means, letting him dance removing his clothing in a bar for men only, disgusting. A generation of "sue your own parents" is growing up, and for good reason. It's nothing short of perverted. And it's about kids ffs! We used to say anybody who defends people exploiting children deserves a bullet to the head, not protection, identifying as a Minor Attracted Person and all that total bs. I feel as if eugenics is at play, only not to improve but to damage.
I can remember Jack Unterweger being "passed around" in German TV-shows as this unique, rehabilitated, intellectual ex-murderer who can teach us a lesson or two. Well, he did!
When I was a young man (18) I had a brief encounter with Randy Kraft in Southern California. Luckily the encounter was benign, but if I had accepted his offer to go "party" with him I most likely wouldn't be here now. It wasn't until some time later after he was caught and his story hit the papers did I realize who I had met that day. In retrospect it was sobering.
As a German I remember the time, when German TV presented women in talkshows who had fallen in love with Unterwegger. After his second crime series. Among them was even a lawyer. Unbelievable how unreflected those women were.
I was 12 when he died so I only vaguely knew his name that he killed here and in the US and that he was a writer. I didn't even know he died in our local prison in Graz.
Just like thoses who send love letters ( and even married! ) Ted Bundy. Theses womans probably have a very boring life and seek thrills in a relation with a killer. And don't forget many woman are attracted to "bad boys" and celebrities, good or bad.
This reminds me of Jack Henry Abbott, another criminal who, because he was a talented writer, was released from prison only to commit another atrocity. Abbott’s release was promoted by Norman Mailer and some of Mailer’s literary friends. Abbott, six weeks after being released, stabbed and killed 22-year-old actor, playwright, and waiter Richard Adan outside a New York City cafe where Adam had been working.
There needs to be a law so that the people who advocate for a killer’s release will be held accountable for any crimes the killer commits. For example, if the killer later on get a life sentence, the advocate persons each get 50years in prison, if he gets 30 yrs in prison, the advocate persons each gets 15years in prison. That will deter these irresponsible and heartless “elites”, as they are hurting the victims both before and after the releasing.
@@joincoffee9383 Dr.G, This response implies that the group of people mentioned in the title were solely responsible for releasing this murderer from prison. Is that the case, in Austria? No parole board, judge or administrative commission over prisoner release statues? It seems as though many viewers inferred this fact from your video?
What’s interesting is that both Unterweger and Abbott did their time until they were released, then after they killed again and got rearrested, committed suicide. I don’t have any empathy for either of them but I do wonder what it feels like to have been so extraordinarily lucky as to secure an early release for a heinous crime you committed because you wrote about it, then wind up back in prison for doing it again and knowing you’re really never leaving. I imagine what gets a lot of the lifers through their time is the glimmer of hope of getting out again and people like Abbott and Unterweger must have been completely stripped of it the second time around. Again, no empathy for them at all, but it’s an extraordinary set of circumstances and I can’t help but wonder what that felt like to go back the second time around.
Of course Norman Mailer promoted the likes of this psychopath, because he was one himself. And there is no way to rehabilitate an individual who has these psychopathic and sociopathic traits, and whom commit heinous acts. That is why we need to reopen state hospitals and places where these type of people can be locked up and never be sent out to society as they will always be a danger. Ed Kemper was successful at fooling his psychiatrists that he was rehabilitated,… But look how that turned out. They're master manipulators and relentless.
Hello from Austria/Vienna. I can assure you none of his plays/works were mandatory reading in my school. More likely in those montessori institutions. Fun fact: the knot on his noose was the same kind of knot he made while strangulating his victims with their bras. Ohhh just a few weeks ago one of his petitioners, Lotte Ingrisch passed away peacefully. The intellectual elite thankfully do not represent nor reflect the majority of us. Jack was a sick twisted puppy. Great pronounciation Dr. Grande! 🥰
Ingrisch also was a lunatic who thought she can talk to ghosts. I thought this should be mentioned. And Elfriede Jelinek the later Nobel Laureate wrote a letter on her own.
So true in America that the elites do not represent the will/thinking/feeling of the majority. How is that those bastards keep themselves in control. It's the grave delusion of 'democracy' at work. Most Americans are completely propagandized and blind to reality.
No matter how attractive this criminal made himself to others, the blame of releasing a predator into the general population lies with the doctors, prison officials, probation officers and the government in place at that time, who allowed this to happen. They knew (or should have known) better as professionals versus the social media of that time period.
I don't like much the phrasing, almost as if there was some kind of intellectual-elite-jury actually with decisive power on the matter, but in he other hand there is also the aspect of pertinent legislation and how society, including intellectuals, influence in shaping it. But it's far from being the case that the left-wing "intellectuals" are completely too crazily lenient, whereas the right-wing "intellectuals" would have things certainly close to a reasonable measure, and never making punctual mistakes like this, either in the direction of being pro or against punishment or imprisonment specifically (or death). There are crazy and counterproductive ideas espoused in both sides, like complete police/prison abolishment in one side, the war on drugs in the other, and the problematic ideas are not limited to those.
Liberals? The Democrat Party gook on the name Liberal Democrat When They Joined The American Comunist Party . Guess liberal Elites have always been Dark.
@@jumpinjohnnyruss At least in the U.S. we have seen a surge of crime due to cities refusing to arrest, prosecute or hold people who are believed to have committed crimes. Theft, assaults and property crimes are often responded to days later because city administrators have decided to "defund" police forces because of believed racism. When people are arrested, even for violent offenses they are immediately released where a large percentage immediately commit similar crimes. Even when they are arrested and charged the D.A.s in the cities have often chosen not to prosecute them as they believe them to be victims of society rather than committer of crime. So in the end, the ideology of these Progressive people have led to ordinary citizens being targeted by criminals because they in reality have the backing of local authorities rather than the ordinary citizens who have committed no crimes.
Perfect timing. I'm just about to lie down & try to go to sleep. I love the soothing nature of Dr Grande's voice along with the burns associated with his dry humor 😂❤❤
So... Let me get this straight. Everyone who petitioned for Jack's release from prison basically helped him commit those murders, including the police he was, for whatever reason, allowed to patrol prostitution areas with. A lot of people have blood on their hands, whether they're aware of it or not. I'm particularly disappointed with this case. This goes to show just how empty human beings have really become. Mxm🚮
Have become? Human beings have been like that since the dawn of time. It's just human nature to make bad decisions. Wealth, status, IQ and intellect can't save anyone from being a gullible idiot once in a while.
This is such a bizarre case. One would think that intellectuals have really good critical thinking skills and are able make out someone like Jack fairly easily. Apparently, it takes more than intelligence to spot narcissistic manipulation. Very insightful analysis! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤️
makes one wonder about the mental capacities of those who Support him, doesn't it...are they Narcs too?..do they admire him just a bit for his ability to do what they lack the 'courage' to do?...are they wannabe killers?..Very Possible.
@MLAustin5 Exactly! They are called 'intellectuals' by each other and the residents within their respective echo chambers. Well them and the deluded masses who feign over them. The rest of us just laugh at them, sepecially when people who play pretend for a living try and tell us how to vote.
I like Hayek's definition of an intellectual: An intellectual is someone who thinks they understand what a genius meant and is really good at selling what they think. It takes charisma and an above average IQ but that's about all. These are the people who are the leaders of the world.
Even IF his rehabilitation story were true, releasing him from prison and glorifying him as a figure of inspiration is a major kick in the guts to his victims family. Justice still needed to be served for that crime. Showing any compassion for a man like him only showed callous disregard for the poor woman he killed. It's a sad irony that reveals just how blinded we can be by the charismatic and manipulative psychopaths among us. They can get you to a point where you end up feeling sorry for them!
I have had some things done to me, which still have repercussions to my life and psyche decades later, granted i was not killed. If the person responsible were to call me up and explain how they've changed, i would welcome them into my home.
@@volodyanarchist Seriously 😳 Do you think you’d feel better by having some sort of contact? Please explain. I can’t wrap my head around this because I know I would not welcome my perpetrators into my home. What am I missing?
This might be among the craziest true crime stories ever! The fact that he went into investigative journalism- in true crime, w/ an emphasis on murders and sex workers- is mind blowing! How it is, that NOBODY even considered that this particular area of interest might be unhealthy- to say the very least- for THIS guy, is just surreal. I have been studying true crime and abnormal psychology since I was a teenager. I was the victim of a particularly sadistic crime as a child and I think it interests me as a matter of self defense. I want to possess as much insight into the criminal mind as possible, so that I might avoid such people & possibly be able to recognize them for what they truly are- before it's too late- should there ever be a next time. It has served me well so far, knowledge IS power, imo. I've got to say though, that self awareness also plays a large role in avoiding many dangerous situations. Obviously, many criminals are opportunists, but with situational awareness and other precautionary tactics practiced in one's daily life, the statistical probability of becoming a victim of violent crime, goes down tremendously. I also found after years of study in these fields, that my confidence was not only restored, but was greatly increased. I find that I am MUCH more perceptive than most of the people I know, and that I'm acutely aware of behaviors, that I was oblivious to as a young person. People often say I have an uncanny ability to judge a person's character and that I have a "mean bullsh*t detecting" ability. I don't know if any of that is true, but I certainly would like to think that it is. I do believe that all of my effort has payed off. There is a lot of LE in my family, including my husband, and they all agree that I am a better judge of character than they are. I just tell them that since I don't have CODIS and NCIC to run people's names through, I actually have to work harder than they do to recognize red flags.... 🤭 all in jest, of course. I have a massive amount of respect for what they do. It's a very difficult job, and they don't get payed much- considering that they often have to deal with the worst that humanity has to offer... 🙏🇺🇸
I did not have your horrible experience as a child, but I have exactly the same mindset about trying to understand as much as possible about violent criminals as an attempt to avoid becoming their victim. In my case, my siblings and I were raised in a weird, incredibly naive bubble where we thought everyone was fundamentally good, and even if they do things that contradict that assumption, it must be because they need our help, and then they can get back to being their normal, good selves. I don't know why on earth our parents did that. Especially because two different serial killers were active in our town while I was growing up--John Norman Collins and Coral Watts. Oh, and Ted Bundy stopped by, too! Not to mention the still unsolved neighboring Oakland county child murders (I'm from Ann Arbor, MI). And while killers are of course the most dramatic end of the spectrum, we've had to work to overcome that naivete to stop being victimized on a smaller scale in day-to-day life. I can't tell you how many times I have been a fool in work situations, romantic relationships, etc. because I could not comprehend it when other people were taking advantage of me. It's not that I don't have the underlying ability to recognize it happening, but it's been deeply ingrained in me to explain it away, give people the benefit of the doubt, be a martyr, etc. I highly recommend that everyone, but especially women, read the book "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker. Especially if you relate to my or Merrychoke's story.
Just a reminder, I'm not performing a critical literary analysis of the work of Jack Unterweger ; only speculating on what could be happening in a publishing mishap like this.
Finally covered this one! As a person living in Austria, Vienna, I really appreciate it! One can see some of the pieces of evidence (even one of the bras) in a museum of crime in Vienna. As always, very well covered! Thank you!
@@bnic9471 Thats still too many people, dead by his hands- that he was lying, Should have been a matter, of course but there are plenty of mentally ill people practicing within, the mental health field.
Today's USA leftist society scares me as well. They literally make excuses for child predators, especially a certain group associated with the rainbow. How in the name of all that is sane that is not a crime I do not know. These people should be shunned and ostracized for their perverted views, activism even when it hurts children, puberty blockers that cause serious illnesses like bone density deficiency, where a teen is feeling extreme pain and feeling like a 60 year old. All in the name of progressiveness and liberalism. Sick and twisted individuals, not all, but apparently most.
You have such great one liners. I love them !!! They help make these kinds of cases a lot easier to hear, being they are so terrible to comprehend completely without them. 🙏❤️
Here we are witness to that which has been revealed by those like Dr. Thomas Sowell. In his book, " Intellectuals and Society ", he describes how intellectuals have frequently impacted social order while avoiding any responsibility for that impact." By that definition, most academics in the social sciences, people in the media (especially opinion journalists) and most teachers are intellectuals - as is Tom Sowell himself. They - we - often operate in an intellectually enclosed society in which esteem is gained from the opinions of peers rather than from any evidence that our ideas are useful in the real world, freeing them - us - from real accountability as to the validity of the ideas we espouse or generate. ". From a review of " Intellectuals and Society ": Orange County Register. Dec. 11, 2009. In this particular case the impact upon women of a lower social category was devastatingly real and severe, while those who insisted that Unterweger was a valuable asset to society remained detached from any potential fallout. I highly recommend Dr. Sowell's books to all who follow Dr. Grande.
I don't think Sowell is an intellectual. I think he's a genuine genius. Read Hayek's The Road to Serfdom for an explanation of what an intellectual is.
@@neilreynolds3858 I was quoting a separate source, as is evident in my comment. I agree with your judgment in that Sowell isn't what we have come to recognize as an " intellectual ", he is an academic.
a consequence would actually be really easy. If you miffed Johnny Carson, you were banned for life, his call. Mailer, Buckley, Vidal, et al.? Easy. They get banned from every one of the major talk shows of the time. THAT they'd feel, as their self-importance, agrandizement, and sense of privilege would come to a screaching halt. It could have been done easilly.
A better outcome than shunning them would be the very public and extensive examination of those who advocated for his release. We should all - always - be called to account for our decisions. That is how lessons are learned, and new solutions can be formulated.
Jack Underweger had almost no education, and our politicians are horrified to imagine that they might have followed in that killers same footsteps, had they not had a good education and a less violent pathway to exhibit their sociopathic tendencies. They seriously empathize with their own kind, but not with the rest of us.
I can't thank you enough for your diligence & insights. Imagine how baffled I was as a 54 y.o. austrian with an interest in true crime, yet never been told some details and context revealed in your analysis. By the way, I grew up in Linz at the time of Jacks trial there. Thank you again and please keep up the great work!
Or the evil people see Unterweger as someone who reminds them of themselves and their own kin-folks, and therefore have a cult instinct to "stick together" with their own allies.
I think the key here is that many really didn't know - Jack. People did not know what was really in his heart and mind. How sick he really was. To often a mistake is made on individual appearances. As a result, you can be manipulated. Jack was able to deceive others into believing he was - rehabilitated however, this was a very sick man. Many somehow forgot how he ended up in prison in the first place. He killed. There should have been someone in authority saying - wait a minute, don't forget who Jack really is and what he is capable of doing.
I recall (a bit foggy on the details) two similar cases here in the US. One involved William F. Buckley and the second involved Norman Mailer. In both cases, their support helped release two convicted murderers (who could write) both of whom murdered or attempted to murder again and were sent back to jail. Intellectual's privilege and narcissism seems as good an explanation as any.
@@colinmontgomery1956 Hi Colin. William F. Buckley was involved in the release of convicted murderer Edgar Smith and Norman Mailer used his celebrity to help free convicted murderer Jack Henry Abbott. Both Smith and Abbot were good writers who attracted celebrity intellectual attention. Smith's post prison release victim did not die. There are many articles on the internet if you want more details. Regards, JB
I so look forward to your videos!! Your intelligence, knowledge of these topics are simply unmatched! Your humor is superb and I always learn, laugh, and thoroughly enjoy watching you!! Thank you so very much!! Ps...YES, Dr. Grande's voice is very soothing !
Something similar happened with William F Buckley Jr. Helped free a murderer who went on to murder again. Interesting case if you haven’t looked into it yet
I think you are thinking of Norman Mailer- he help get Jack H Abbott paroled because Abbott wrote well. Abbott was out for about 6 weeks before he killed a waiter that wouldn't let him use a bathroom. Mailer was warned that Abbott had a hair trigger temper.
The man’s name was Edgar Smith. He murdered a 15 year old girl in 1957. Her name was Vicki Zielinski. He wrote to Buckley and they started a correspondence. Buckley thought he was innocent and through his influence he got out in 1971. In 1976 he attacked a woman at knife point coming home from work. Her name is Lisa Ozbun. He forced her in his car, stabbed her but miraculously she escaped from his car, with his knife in her chest. Yes she survived. He was eventually caught. His ex wives said he was violent and there was at least one instance where a woman he dated felt she had escaped from a certain death.
Reminds me of the story of Norman Mailer's efforts to gain the release of the killer Jack Abbott from prison. I thought that was what this vid was going to be about.
Indeed. I wonder if the relatives of the murdered women have a legal case for a private prosecution of his supporters and apologists? If I was a human rights lawyer I’d do it pro bono.
@@andyisdead I was referring to Nobel Prize Winner Elfriede Jelinek, one of Unterweger's biggest supporters and with affiliations to the Communist Party. She is also famous feminist, which is ironic as she knew he was in prison originally for murdering a woman.
Sadly, those elite intellectuals were not "self proclaimed", if they only had been. They all were at the top of their respective profession, which makes it worse. People like that are convinced that they, and only they, can save the world from some perceived evil. They are devoid of any moral compass and common sense, vain and attention seeking. At this time, they were highly respected within the German and Austrian educated classes. That said, your analysis, specifically that "birds of a feather..." bit, is excellent and very enlightening.
Genuine question: what happened to Dr Grande's episode from a few days ago on Anne Heche and her car accident? I can't find it anymore. Does its removal have anything to do with the fact that it is now looking almost certain that she will not make it out alive (and is clinically brain dead)?
Let it sink in, respected psychoanalysts, historians, authors, publicists, even a literature Nobel Prize winner lobbied to have this psychopath released earlier. After that, he was a welcome guest at fancy parties and on TV talk shows. They hung on his lips and he was just a strange and unpleasant guy. I spent my youth in Austria in the nineties and never understood these crazy incidents. It was like being in a bad movie. These people involved never talked about their motives afterwards. Except for his ex, a young lawyer who fell for him. In Austria, people like to sweep things under the table. I remember that the trial of Josef Fritzl lasted only 4 days and not even his wife or co-responsible employees of the youth welfare office were questioned or heard as witnesses.
Good point - and clearly shows how Grande is a dumbass politically, to compare a liberal and a far Leftist, completely different- libs are less Left significantly than actual Leftists and libs are often wealthy or at least comfortable so are just fine with capitalism- which Leftists staunchly oppose- therefore the Leftist view that many Liberals are hypocritical is often true- they are either that or uninformed
How is it comparable? Roman Polanksi is a 90 year old, who once had sex with an underage woman in the 70's. Ever since, he hasn't been known to engage in crimes. This person was a murderer, who once released from prison, started killing more people. What Polanksi did is not even on the same scale of evil.
In my opinion, this is one of your absolute best analyses, Dr. Grande. This case is so outrageous that it really does defy logic, common sense, and how the rule of law should operate. It’s like the liberal elites decided to do an experiment to show just how much certain artistic people need to be out and free no matter what they have perpetrated in their past. So their seeming experiment went terribly wrong and suddenly they got to see the horror of just how flawed their own ideals really were. You brought all of this together and made it make sense both on its face and under the deep, dark surface. The murkiness cleared up the more you explained the nuances of just how Jack was raised and how he viewed the world long before the elitist experiment. This very thorough and articulate analysis by you made this case ten times more interesting than it already was. I always appreciate your thorough analyses. Thank you, Dr. Grande.
You can detect it in their opinion 'Don't mix the person with the persons art'. I read that a lot according to Roman Polanski, or the other celebrities, who were caught criming.
What always strikes me weird is how people hang themselves so often in prison. I don't think it would be easy to hang myself, let alone with a shoelace or bedsheet.
I find this a very interesting case, thanks for your video. The fact he was a guy with a certain good looks helped him... Which also proves how we have a tendency of judging people by their looks
It’s odd that they thought it was a waste of his talents to be in prison, where he had written the work they liked and could continue to write about as well as anywhere.
This case is infuriating. Have you heard about the A.U.R.A. case of Amanda Rabb? AURA is practicing AI psychiatry without a license and their first patient was well documented on Soft White Underbelly here on TH-cam, and she died while in their care. Please look at Lima from AURA and the Soft White Underbelly channel. Some weird ish is going on there.
I kinda feel bad for only writing this finally on this video. I've been wanting to say you are really funny. I found this channel when I was trying to understand my diagnosis better. I love how the tone of the video stays the same with these zingers thrown in. It'd be hard for my husband and I to not laugh at our own jokes. I just love it.
There needs to be some public shame for these so-called intellectuals. He represented their fantasy that bad people can become good, so they saw nothing else. They are accessories to those murders. Recently here in Canada a young and obviously troubled man was arrested for ASSAULT and STALKING. He was released the same day. He attacked three women and killed two of them. The judge who let him go should be sent to prison.
I'm interested in how someone proclaims themselves to be elite. Who are these "intellectuals" and "elites"? A video on the people who supported this killer could shed light on the endlessly fascinating question, "why do people believe what they believe?"
I think it's when they reach a certain socioeconomic status and thus have the ability to turn their nose up at their roots (if they had humble beginnings). Those ones are the worst to me because they literally grew up in and around the crime rate they then later decide doesn't really exist.
I, myself, lean left of center. I dated a person even leftier than me and I have to say that one of the most aggravating things about her was her proclaiming, in theory, that "of course, everyone has blind spots" but, in practice, she could never acknowledge when she was operating on assumptions, archetypes and classist bigotry -- which she did a lot. She identified herself as too self-aware and woke to ever possibly have those blind spots. And, like Dr. Grande, she is a clinical psychologist with a PhD. So she would pull rank and just say she knows better than me whenever I asserted something she disagreed with or didn't like. Crazy making.
I'm so glad then to see that 'd' at the end of 'date'-. We tend to label ourselves as left or right and I think that barring the most extreme on both sides, we are more alike than we give ourselves credit for. It's just that the talking-head arbiters of misery want us at each other's throats for fear we wake up one day to find their roles obsolete.
Yes , youd think the Austrians would have closer scrutiny on anyone like that . Being concvicted for murder by strangulation of his first victim ( lot of rage there ! ) was a bit of a giveaway .
The Austrians seem to not be able to recognize serial killers. They say the most vicious of the Nazis, besides just the little corporal, were Austrians.
Murderers shouldn’t be allowed to get out. For all I care they can give him the Nobel Prize for literature but if you kill someone, especially if it’s a man killing a vulnerable person like a sex worker, you should never get out
This not how the european law works. If you are sentence for a crime like murder (it does not matter how many you killed) you never do life. You can get up to 20/25 years, and normally you are paroled for good behavior years prior. You can end up in a psychiatry clinic and be released after a short time too.
I am a prison abolitionist, but there are some people, who i would accept keeping in prison until there are no other people left to release: Those who prey on the weak the way he did, and those who glorify the prison the way you did.
Anyone who helped him get released should be forced to go apologize to his victims family in person. But I doubt the type of person that's so shallow to want someone to be released because they're a good writer would be bothered by a sobbing family.
this is SO shocking. I almost cannot believe it yet I know you are faithfully reporting the facts. How outrageous. I am disgusted by this horrible predator and the idiots who let him out, and the stupid police who didn't realise they were driving a killer around!
Halloween is coming up. Might I suggest a series ,for around that time? •The Reverend Harry Powell [Night of The Hunter] •Johnny Barrett [Shock Corridor] •Dr. Sidney Shaefer [The President's Analyst] •General James Scott [Seven Days in May] •President Merkin [Dr. Strangelove or: How Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb] Any ,one, would be a worthwhile study.
As an Austrian, these people would probably not be broadly considered "far left" in the Austrian discourse. We tend to talk about such issues differently than Americans.
Not all of them were for sure, but people like Elfriede Jelinek who have been affiliated with the bloody Austrian Communist Party are certainly far-left.
I work in downtown LA. In December 2021 the Cecil Hotel was designated for housing the homeless. As of today, only about 75 of the 600+ rooms are occupied. I guess the place does indeed have a reputation.
Or he could analyze Matt Walsh, the guy that claims to think “the truth” is important (therefore he misgenders trans people) but justifies his homophobia based on the Bible, which cannot be objectively proven to be “true”.
"Very liberal" is not the same thing as "far left," by the by. Liberalism is not a leftist position and its something we here in North America seem to have a serious problem understanding thanks in many ways to our political climate. Just figured I'd point that part out, especially given the context of an Austrian criminal.
I don’t understand how so many people get this wrong. I also don’t understand why it took me scrolling through comments for an hour to find one person that mentioned this. You’d think Dr Grande would understand the nuance since he’s very intelligent. “Very liberal” and “far left” are not synonymous.
None of the current labels used in the media has any relationship to what the words are supposed to mean. It's just labeling to manipulate the readers.
Dr Grande… please educate yourself on the nuances between liberalism and the far left. You’re obviously clueless. Furthermore ‘elites’, don’t have a specific political alliance. Tons of conservative ’elites’. Too bad that I now portray you as untrustworthy.
It says a lot more about his own biases. A 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that of the 85 deadly extremist incidents since September 11, 2001, far right-wing extremist groups were responsible for 73%, while radical Islamist extremists were responsible for 27%. No deaths were attributed to left-wing groups. The Department of Homeland Security reported in October 2020 that white supremacists posed the top domestic terrorism threat, which FBI director Christopher Wray confirmed in March 2021, noting the bureau had elevated the threat to the same level as ISIS.
@@ClannCholmain in that case, I completely agree with his biases. It's not a contest for extremist incidents. It's about the failure of a "justice" system.
@@ClannCholmain I am not sure exactly what your point is... A. I am not American. B. As I stated, I didn't realize this was a justice system contest. Bye.
I'm glad we here in Austria legalised prostitution. That makes these kind of murder much rarer. Its legal inside brothels. No prostitutes on the streets to be lured to remote places. They have health care, pension, pay taxes. Had we done that before Unterweger was active many life's might have been saved
And also the intellectuals shouldn't have freed him as criminals should stay locked up even if you like their personality. He killed in Austria too so it wouldn't have stopped him.
@@hudder92 prostitution war legalised after his death. That's why I said had we done it earlier it might have saved some lifes. He would've still killed but probably less. And yeah allegedly he's the inspiration for Jeanny.
@@ms-jl6dl some people want to do it. It's always existed and will always exist. What's better? Legal brothels with mandatory health checks, police checking papers regularly to try to prevent trafficking, health care, pension, sick pay every legal right employees have, in the safety of a brothel, or illegal Street prostitution with pimps, no legal rights, way easier human trafficking. I used to work at a mc Donald's close to a brothel, the ladies were regulars. They seemed quite content with their job. My mum lived next to a brothel, you could hear lots of giggles oddly enough that's the only noise I heard from there. It's now mostly big chains like any other business.
Your analysis and explanation beginning about 12:00 of the correlation of traits and examples of behavior was one of the best I have ever heard and I have spent 40 years in criminality. Oops I meant criminology.
I saw this story on Discovery ID. It was a series called Murder at the Cecil Hotel I think. It was a few years ago but very good. It also covered Richard Ramirez and Elisa Lamb. There were some strange things happening there.
In Elisa lam case, when you read the police report, there's nothing strange about it. She had a psychotic episode because she wasn't taking her medications for at least 2 weeks prior to her disparition, was expulsed after her roommate at the hotel complained about her erratic comportement. Contrary to the popular beliefs, the roof was easily accessible at that time and the water tank she was found in was open and relatively easy to access. It's easily available in the police report as the autopsy stated she didn't have drugs in her system when they should have found her medications in her blood. There were none and the police found at least 2 weeks of her untouched prescription pills in her belongings. But theses facts aren't often stated because people and some TH-cam channels prefer to believe in some paranormal and fantastical nonsense. There's nothing to change the mind of people who want to believe in ghosts or other nonsenses because they want to believe theses things so badly and the psychotic episode, while true, is a boring explanation.
@@xminusone1 Every show I've seen about Elisa Lamb mentions her mental illness And says she was off her meds. But being found naked, on a roof, in a water storage facility that had No attached ladder seems pretty strange to me. I'm not sure where you're from Martin but where I'm from that is all classified as strange.
@@xminusone1 and her family want all the stories to stop. They saw the recording of her in the lift and said it wasn’t unusual for her to behave that why, she had before when not on medication. As you say there’s a sad and boring explanation: she was seeing things, she would seek out places to hide, the door to the roof was open, and the water tank was open and accessible. Once in there was no way out. The incorrect police report about the hatch being closed (it wasn’t, the first officer closed it) hasn’t helped the mythology. It’s a sad story for what it truly is; a young woman dying because of her mental health
Yo! Dr. Grande, your humor is out of pocket lol but it certainly lightens the mood. Never heard of Jack… what a piece of work. Can’t imagine someone murdering my loved one and people begging for the murderer’s release because he’s a good writer. Unreal.
I'd like Dr. Grande to analyze the very recent case of a popular TH-cam mental health counselor who posted an inappropriate video about the actress Ann Heche prior to deleting it from his channel. The good doctor wouldn't be analyzing his own video or his reaction to the story, mind you.. but rather a situation *like* this.
I wonder how much of his being in prison for murder accounted for the high value placed on his work. If he hadn’t, would his literary writings have stood on their own as so exceptional that he should be embraced by the elite and included in their circles? I think this is where openness to experience plays an important role. Many of the elite, born of elite, have had their lives planned out since day one. Others who gained fame and fortune, such as Cher and Zsa Zsa Gabor had to live by a script in order to attain and retain their status. However, bad boy Jack had lived by his own rules, unrestrained by the dictates of family or society. So, perhaps, that was an element of their attraction to him and it was, simply, thrilling to be in his presence.
These cases produce shadenfreude in many because it’s safely distanced from them. When Ted Bundy was on the run he was reportedly spotted within a couple of blocks of where my wife and I lived at the time.
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As a narcissist, he understood their narcissism and used it against them.
Damn…
As most full blown narcs do, they’re master manipulators.
Yes! So good!
SO well put. Especially these days, these "intellectuals" are just brainwashed preachy assholes ....IMO lol
... yep, nail on the head.
Other than 16 year old kids there probably isn't a bigger group of narcissists than intellectuals
How is it a "waste of talent" for a good writer to be locked away in prison? There's nothing stopping a person from writing in prison. In fact, there probably aren't many better things one could spend their time doing when locked away in a prison cell. Just give the man a typewriter and let him go to town. I feel like releasing a convicted murderer is far more of a potential waste of innocent lives than any potential talent that might be lost by keeping them locked up.
There is a strong tradition of the saving virtues of education or "Bildung" that envisions that a person becomes somehow better in all ways by being "cultured". This has been disproven many times throughout history but seems have plaed a role here. Simply idiotic.
I was thinking the same thing.
Cervantes wrote Don Quixote (a book Einstein argued was the greatest) entirely in prison.
Would it surprise you to know that many of the people who were advocating for his release were also writters?
That’s one of the first things I thought of, too. A pen and paper or typewriter works just as well even when being used in the confinement of iron bars. The obvious choice was to just let him write all he wanted from within prison and let society stay that much more safe from Jack and his homicidal, perverted urges.
For many wealthy people, crime is more of an abstract concept, since they don't have to deal with it on any level. In my country, you'll hear these kind of people talk about criminals as "victims of society" and thanks to that, criminals walk in and out of jail.
Meanwhile, all these "intellectuals" sit on their gated communities, completely separated from us plebs, while we deal with the consequences of their actions.
Tentaculat Well said.👏
The same kind of people who argue that Batman is a monster and the Joker is a victim
Your proximity to those crimes (assuming that you're being honest) presents a variety of biases that limit your judgement on the subject.
@@Michaeljack81sk You mean the nonexistent?
When have you heard anybody make that argument?
In a nutshell
What an unbelievably jaw-dropping case!
You put it brilliantly when you said "The lack of insight led to the deaths of at least nine people. These victims died not only due to Jack's narcissism, but due to the narcissism of these self proclaimed elites. "
YES!
Unfortunately, it's not just the elites. There's a general attitude of indifference, and the belief in re-socialization here, which causes a lot of harm to society.
Just imagine how the family of his first victim must have felt seeing Unterweger working the celebrity circuit while his supporters congratulated each other for the great thing they had done in getting him released.
Even before he started killing again...
Honestly, it’s like society is devolving.
Absolutely maddening
That is how leftists are. At bottom, they are on the side of getting away with evil.
@@autumxxleaves4186 Is that what your great grandparents think also?
@@autumxxleaves4186 I've been saying the same for some time now. It seems my generation - maybe even that of my parents, was the last to openly pride themselves on their civility toward one another, on their manners in general really. Now, with this generation, they pride themselves on 'cancelling' each other and what they can take from another person in order to enrich themselves and they're usually congratulated by their buddies and their braindead 'followers' on social media. The ones in charge openly trying to bring our society down even encourage the entitlement, fueling the envy of the lazy whining 'oppressed' of those who worked hard for what they have. I get the sense that @all wasd trying to bait you into a response with the whole intention of arguing, not listening to your opinion.
...something doesn't feel right when a murderer talks about his crimes to an audience of any kind like writing books, public speaking, etc
Issei Sagawa and Charles Sobhraj come to mind :S I also had problem with the western media glamorizing the Kim Jong Un impersonator when he trolled the North Korean “cheerleaders”, cuz those girls have their families held as hostages in North Korea. Not on the same caliber but the guy didn’t care about risking other people’s lives for his 15 min
I agree. Feels more left
@@Meepoth 'Feels more left'? please clarify
Agreed, it lets them relive the events with legitimacy.
@@TH-eb5ro
You're absolutely RIGHT!
It's like their "trophy"!
[Wht sick human beings!]
Campaigning to release a murderer. Because there’s nothing more important to spend your time doing, is there? I think it shows total disrespect to the woman he murdered, apart from disregard to the women he would come in contact with in the future. (And then kill.)
Apparently two books and plays were absolutely worth the cost of several women’s lives to those sick people. And what a coward, preying on the most vulnerable and taking the easy way out when caught again then facing what he really is.
@Peter T Yeah, excuses for grooming children in USA comes to mind, puberty blockers causing irreversible damage, a child protection service worker telling a 14 year old to sell her own body for food... ugh, the left in its full glory. Or a mother exploiting her 10 year old, telling him he's T, when he doesn't even know what that fully means, letting him dance removing his clothing in a bar for men only, disgusting. A generation of "sue your own parents" is growing up, and for good reason.
It's nothing short of perverted. And it's about kids ffs! We used to say anybody who defends people exploiting children deserves a bullet to the head, not protection, identifying as a Minor Attracted Person and all that total bs. I feel as if eugenics is at play, only not to improve but to damage.
Austrians are kinda sus. Probably even worse than Swiss. The weirdos of Europe
@Peter T Yes you do, please? I don't know who you are referring to, but I suspect it's someone obvious and I've just been ignorant lol.
I can remember Jack Unterweger being "passed around" in German TV-shows as this unique, rehabilitated, intellectual ex-murderer who can teach us a lesson or two. Well, he did!
Wow. Very sick how they paraded him around at that
Yeah... but I'm not sure how well we've absorbed those lessons.
@@nmc1859 Liberalism is a mental disorder.
@@ericdodson2644 some have and some haven’t i guess. Some people will never learn until it happens directly to them or their close family
Two of the lessons are that this murderer did NOT ever change and that we cannot TRUST such a dangerous individual.
I think this is one of the most profound lectures by Dr Grande and it ought to be compulsory viewing for judges and probation services.
Agreed!
When I was a young man (18) I had a brief encounter with Randy Kraft in Southern California. Luckily the encounter was benign, but if I had accepted his offer to go "party" with him I most likely wouldn't be here now. It wasn't until some time later after he was caught and his story hit the papers did I realize who I had met that day. In retrospect it was sobering.
damn thats disgusting 🧔♂❤🧔♂ . why not go and do that to ♀?
Scary! I've read two books about him. Good you didn't go with him.
One of the worst ever (Kraft).
@@lynnehuff7059 I've read "Angel of Darkness," extremely good book.
What's the other book about Randy Kraft? I'm not aware of it
@@lynnehuff7059 Nevermind, I found what must be the other book, "The Scorecard Killer."
As a German I remember the time, when German TV presented women in talkshows who had fallen in love with Unterwegger. After his second crime series. Among them was even a lawyer. Unbelievable how unreflected those women were.
It's 100 times worse now.
I was 12 when he died so I only vaguely knew his name that he killed here and in the US and that he was a writer. I didn't even know he died in our local prison in Graz.
Just like thoses who send love letters ( and even married! ) Ted Bundy. Theses womans probably have a very boring life and seek thrills in a relation with a killer. And don't forget many woman are attracted to "bad boys" and celebrities, good or bad.
all ♀love the bad boys
they hate good men
You can't reform someone incapable of empathy. They may stop killing through a kind of exhaustion but they'll never feel remorse.
This reminds me of Jack Henry Abbott, another criminal who, because he was a talented writer, was released from prison only to commit another atrocity. Abbott’s release was promoted by Norman Mailer and some of Mailer’s literary friends.
Abbott, six weeks after being released, stabbed and killed 22-year-old actor, playwright, and waiter Richard Adan outside a New York City cafe where Adam had been working.
There needs to be a law so that the people who advocate for a killer’s release will be held accountable for any crimes the killer commits. For example, if the killer later on get a life sentence, the advocate persons each get 50years in prison, if he gets 30 yrs in prison, the advocate persons each gets 15years in prison. That will deter these irresponsible and heartless “elites”, as they are hurting the victims both before and after the releasing.
@@joincoffee9383 Dr.G, This response implies that the group of people mentioned in the title were solely responsible for releasing this murderer from prison. Is that the case, in Austria? No parole board, judge or administrative commission over prisoner release statues? It seems as though many viewers inferred this fact from your video?
@@joincoffee9383 Interesting take on freedom of speech
What’s interesting is that both Unterweger and Abbott did their time until they were released, then after they killed again and got rearrested, committed suicide. I don’t have any empathy for either of them but I do wonder what it feels like to have been so extraordinarily lucky as to secure an early release for a heinous crime you committed because you wrote about it, then wind up back in prison for doing it again and knowing you’re really never leaving. I imagine what gets a lot of the lifers through their time is the glimmer of hope of getting out again and people like Abbott and Unterweger must have been completely stripped of it the second time around. Again, no empathy for them at all, but it’s an extraordinary set of circumstances and I can’t help but wonder what that felt like to go back the second time around.
Of course Norman Mailer promoted the likes of this psychopath, because he was one himself.
And there is no way to rehabilitate an individual who has these psychopathic and sociopathic traits, and whom commit heinous acts.
That is why we need to reopen state hospitals and places where these type of people can be locked up and never be sent out to society as they will always be a danger. Ed Kemper was successful at fooling his psychiatrists that he was rehabilitated,… But look how that turned out. They're master manipulators and relentless.
Hello from Austria/Vienna. I can assure you none of his plays/works were mandatory reading in my school. More likely in those montessori institutions. Fun fact: the knot on his noose was the same kind of knot he made while strangulating his victims with their bras. Ohhh just a few weeks ago one of his petitioners, Lotte Ingrisch passed away peacefully. The intellectual elite thankfully do not represent nor reflect the majority of us. Jack was a sick twisted puppy. Great pronounciation Dr. Grande! 🥰
Ingrisch also was a lunatic who thought she can talk to ghosts. I thought this should be mentioned. And Elfriede Jelinek the later Nobel Laureate wrote a letter on her own.
So true in America that the elites do not represent the will/thinking/feeling of the majority. How is that those bastards keep themselves in control. It's the grave delusion of 'democracy' at work. Most Americans are completely propagandized and blind to reality.
No matter how attractive this criminal made himself to others, the blame of releasing a predator into the general population lies with the doctors, prison officials, probation officers and the government in place at that time, who allowed this to happen. They knew (or should have known) better as professionals versus the social media of that time period.
I don't like much the phrasing, almost as if there was some kind of intellectual-elite-jury actually with decisive power on the matter, but in he other hand there is also the aspect of pertinent legislation and how society, including intellectuals, influence in shaping it. But it's far from being the case that the left-wing "intellectuals" are completely too crazily lenient, whereas the right-wing "intellectuals" would have things certainly close to a reasonable measure, and never making punctual mistakes like this, either in the direction of being pro or against punishment or imprisonment specifically (or death). There are crazy and counterproductive ideas espoused in both sides, like complete police/prison abolishment in one side, the war on drugs in the other, and the problematic ideas are not limited to those.
Yeah man the public ultimately makes the decisions.. I you disregard the publics outcry you won't hold power long.
Also, if I understand it correctly, he they didn't even succeed in getting him out early.
It’s sad that society hasn’t really learned much from instances like this. 🤦🏽♀️
You mean, ‘part of society.’ Typically the ones who think they’re the smartest people in the room
A lot of us have but it’s these so called “elites” that have not…..geeeze
Liberals? The Democrat Party gook on the name Liberal Democrat When They Joined The American Comunist Party . Guess liberal Elites have always been Dark.
That begs the question. How did you come to realize that society hasn't learned much from such instances?
@@jumpinjohnnyruss At least in the U.S. we have seen a surge of crime due to cities refusing to arrest, prosecute or hold people who are believed to have committed crimes. Theft, assaults and property crimes are often responded to days later because city administrators have decided to "defund" police forces because of believed racism. When people are arrested, even for violent offenses they are immediately released where a large percentage immediately commit similar crimes. Even when they are arrested and charged the D.A.s in the cities have often chosen not to prosecute them as they believe them to be victims of society rather than committer of crime.
So in the end, the ideology of these Progressive people have led to ordinary citizens being targeted by criminals because they in reality have the backing of local authorities rather than the ordinary citizens who have committed no crimes.
Perfect timing. I'm just about to lie down & try to go to sleep. I love the soothing nature of Dr Grande's voice along with the burns associated with his dry humor 😂❤❤
Same here.
Very funny..🤣..
And you are so very right…
I complement him &
his cat purring like abilities when speaking to us.
He keeps me calm..🧠😉🧠
Curious….where the good doctor’s heart appears. A pattern emerges.
Hmm. This comment sounds heartless somehow.
A total lacking of empathy I guess
So... Let me get this straight. Everyone who petitioned for Jack's release from prison basically helped him commit those murders, including the police he was, for whatever reason, allowed to patrol prostitution areas with.
A lot of people have blood on their hands, whether they're aware of it or not. I'm particularly disappointed with this case. This goes to show just how empty human beings have really become. Mxm🚮
Have become? Human beings have been like that since the dawn of time. It's just human nature to make bad decisions. Wealth, status, IQ and intellect can't save anyone from being a gullible idiot once in a while.
@@user-x4u6l Yeah, this is high-key facts.
Exactly
Human beings or leftists?
@@thecatatemyhomework leftists, of course
This is such a bizarre case. One would think that intellectuals have really good critical thinking skills and are able make out someone like Jack fairly easily. Apparently, it takes more than intelligence to spot narcissistic manipulation.
Very insightful analysis! Thank you, Dr. Grande.❤️
It's like the saying, "sometimes BS baffles brains".
Intellectual is misapplied often. Like, if you’re smarter than the average bear.
makes one wonder about the mental capacities of those who Support him, doesn't it...are they Narcs too?..do they admire him just a bit for his ability to do what they lack the 'courage' to do?...are they wannabe killers?..Very Possible.
@MLAustin5 Exactly! They are called 'intellectuals' by each other and the residents within their respective echo chambers. Well them and the deluded masses who feign over them. The rest of us just laugh at them, sepecially when people who play pretend for a living try and tell us how to vote.
I like Hayek's definition of an intellectual: An intellectual is someone who thinks they understand what a genius meant and is really good at selling what they think. It takes charisma and an above average IQ but that's about all. These are the people who are the leaders of the world.
Even IF his rehabilitation story were true, releasing him from prison and glorifying him as a figure of inspiration is a major kick in the guts to his victims family. Justice still needed to be served for that crime. Showing any compassion for a man like him only showed callous disregard for the poor woman he killed. It's a sad irony that reveals just how blinded we can be by the charismatic and manipulative psychopaths among us. They can get you to a point where you end up feeling sorry for them!
I have had some things done to me, which still have repercussions to my life and psyche decades later, granted i was not killed. If the person responsible were to call me up and explain how they've changed, i would welcome them into my home.
Feeling sorry for them is a way the psychos reel people in
Actually
@@volodyanarchist Seriously 😳
Do you think you’d feel better by having some sort of contact? Please explain.
I can’t wrap my head around this because I know I would not welcome my perpetrators into my home. What am I missing?
We?
I love how you mentioned Richard Ramirez and Elisa Lam without advertising that you made great videos on them! Humble man
This might be among the craziest true crime stories ever! The fact that he went into investigative journalism- in true crime, w/ an emphasis on murders and sex workers- is mind blowing! How it is, that NOBODY even considered that this particular area of interest might be unhealthy- to say the very least- for THIS guy, is just surreal. I have been studying true crime and abnormal psychology since I was a teenager. I was the victim of a particularly sadistic crime as a child and I think it interests me as a matter of self defense. I want to possess as much insight into the criminal mind as possible, so that I might avoid such people & possibly be able to recognize them for what they truly are- before it's too late- should there ever be a next time. It has served me well so far, knowledge IS power, imo. I've got to say though, that self awareness also plays a large role in avoiding many dangerous situations. Obviously, many criminals are opportunists, but with situational awareness and other precautionary tactics practiced in one's daily life, the statistical probability of becoming a victim of violent crime, goes down tremendously. I also found after years of study in these fields, that my confidence was not only restored, but was greatly increased. I find that I am MUCH more perceptive than most of the people I know, and that I'm acutely aware of behaviors, that I was oblivious to as a young person. People often say I have an uncanny ability to judge a person's character and that I have a "mean bullsh*t detecting" ability. I don't know if any of that is true, but I certainly would like to think that it is. I do believe that all of my effort has payed off. There is a lot of LE in my family, including my husband, and they all agree that I am a better judge of character than they are. I just tell them that since I don't have CODIS and NCIC to run people's names through, I actually have to work harder than they do to recognize red flags.... 🤭 all in jest, of course. I have a massive amount of respect for what they do. It's a very difficult job, and they don't get payed much- considering that they often have to deal with the worst that humanity has to offer...
🙏🇺🇸
I did not have your horrible experience as a child, but I have exactly the same mindset about trying to understand as much as possible about violent criminals as an attempt to avoid becoming their victim. In my case, my siblings and I were raised in a weird, incredibly naive bubble where we thought everyone was fundamentally good, and even if they do things that contradict that assumption, it must be because they need our help, and then they can get back to being their normal, good selves. I don't know why on earth our parents did that. Especially because two different serial killers were active in our town while I was growing up--John Norman Collins and Coral Watts. Oh, and Ted Bundy stopped by, too! Not to mention the still unsolved neighboring Oakland county child murders (I'm from Ann Arbor, MI).
And while killers are of course the most dramatic end of the spectrum, we've had to work to overcome that naivete to stop being victimized on a smaller scale in day-to-day life. I can't tell you how many times I have been a fool in work situations, romantic relationships, etc. because I could not comprehend it when other people were taking advantage of me. It's not that I don't have the underlying ability to recognize it happening, but it's been deeply ingrained in me to explain it away, give people the benefit of the doubt, be a martyr, etc. I highly recommend that everyone, but especially women, read the book "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin de Becker. Especially if you relate to my or Merrychoke's story.
Just a reminder, I'm not performing a critical literary analysis of the work of Jack Unterweger ; only speculating on what could be happening in a publishing mishap like this.
Clever comment
Yes-very cleva-and funny!
@@browniehendricks3726 THANKS!
@@noradinneen1 THANKS!
Finally covered this one! As a person living in Austria, Vienna, I really appreciate it! One can see some of the pieces of evidence (even one of the bras) in a museum of crime in Vienna.
As always, very well covered! Thank you!
By the bra?
One of the bras wow that’s intense to me, more so than seeing a knife or gun used to kill before, and idk why
I live in Vienna too.
That name evokes shivers.
Absolute madman pumping out this glorious content on the daily! It's 2am my time & I'm stoked to have a murderous bedtime story to enjoy. Thanks Dr. G
Intellectual fools. How a woman's life is worth less than 'talented writing'.
YES Valerie!
Talented, maybe..but i can not bring myself to call them intellectuals..they miss that mark by a Wide margin.
They're communists.
Those intellectuals didn't know Jack.
😆😄😂
should be top comment.
Heh heh heh. I see what you did there ☺
Those intellectuals were dumbasses.
He murders a female with their bra, and people think he’s cool? That is so strange to me. That would be a definite nope 👎🏾 for me.
He lied about it, though. He did not disclose the bra part.
@@bnic9471 Thats still too many people, dead by his hands- that he was lying, Should have been a matter, of course but there are plenty of mentally ill people practicing within, the mental health field.
Today's USA leftist society scares me as well. They literally make excuses for child predators, especially a certain group associated with the rainbow. How in the name of all that is sane that is not a crime I do not know. These people should be shunned and ostracized for their perverted views, activism even when it hurts children, puberty blockers that cause serious illnesses like bone density deficiency, where a teen is feeling extreme pain and feeling like a 60 year old. All in the name of progressiveness and liberalism. Sick and twisted individuals, not all, but apparently most.
Kids these days thinks the Columbine psycho murders are the ultimate cool.
You have such great one liners. I love them !!! They help make these kinds of cases a lot easier to hear, being they are so terrible to comprehend completely without them. 🙏❤️
Here we are witness to that which has been revealed by those like Dr. Thomas Sowell. In his book, " Intellectuals and Society ", he describes how intellectuals have frequently impacted social order while avoiding any responsibility for that impact." By that definition, most academics in the social sciences, people in the media (especially opinion journalists) and most teachers are intellectuals - as is Tom Sowell himself. They - we - often operate in an intellectually enclosed society in which esteem is gained from the opinions of peers rather than from any evidence that our ideas are useful in the real world, freeing them - us - from real accountability as to the validity of the ideas we espouse or generate. ". From a review of " Intellectuals and Society ": Orange County Register. Dec. 11, 2009.
In this particular case the impact upon women of a lower social category was devastatingly real and severe, while those who insisted that Unterweger was a valuable asset to society remained detached from any potential fallout.
I highly recommend Dr. Sowell's books to all who follow Dr. Grande.
Sowell is a criminally under appreciated American intellectual.
@@nunceccemortiferiscultu7826 Agreed. Its a shame he isn't as well recognized as any number of clowns seen on " reality " television.
I don't think Sowell is an intellectual. I think he's a genuine genius. Read Hayek's The Road to Serfdom for an explanation of what an intellectual is.
@@neilreynolds3858 I was quoting a separate source, as is evident in my comment. I agree with your judgment in that Sowell isn't what we have come to recognize as an " intellectual ", he is an academic.
I always enjoy hearing your thoughts on people like this. Keep up the great work Dr. Grande.
I don't know how, but the people who advocated for him to be released should face some sort of punishment themselves.
a consequence would actually be really easy. If you miffed Johnny Carson, you were banned for life, his call. Mailer, Buckley, Vidal, et al.? Easy. They get banned from every one of the major talk shows of the time. THAT they'd feel, as their self-importance, agrandizement, and sense of privilege would come to a screaching halt. It could have been done easilly.
A better outcome than shunning them would be the very public and extensive examination of those who advocated for his release. We should all - always - be called to account for our decisions. That is how lessons are learned, and new solutions can be formulated.
Oh they do deal with punishment. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
These elites always seem to have sympathy for the killers but none for the victims.
Yes serial killers and serial rapists no matter what politics they follow.
Because it is just ideological "sympathy".
Always....
Jack Underweger had almost no education, and our politicians are horrified to imagine that they might have followed in that killers same footsteps, had they not had a good education and a less violent pathway to exhibit their sociopathic tendencies. They seriously empathize with their own kind, but not with the rest of us.
Agreed.
The lockdown comes to mind.
I can't thank you enough for your diligence & insights. Imagine how baffled I was as a 54 y.o. austrian with an interest in true crime, yet never been told some details and context revealed in your analysis. By the way, I grew up in Linz at the time of Jacks trial there. Thank you again and please keep up the great work!
How Was he able to enter the United Stares if he already had a criminal record? This case is so frustrating.
His father was American
@@lizw2853 Was that enough?
Pretty much anyone is able to enter the states.
He’s white
the consistency of ur uploads is amazing !!!
Sad story. People that do not believe in evil can't fathom that it actually exists.
It was at the height of post modernist 'thinking' I believe. The intellectualising of depravity.
@@alihenderson5910 "The intellectualising of depravity"
Or the evil people see Unterweger as someone who reminds them of themselves and their own kin-folks, and therefore have a cult instinct to "stick together" with their own allies.
People who are evil can't identify it in their own actions either.
Do you notice that they want to normalize the evil? It’s a twisted way of gaining acceptance.
I think the key here is that many really didn't know - Jack. People did not know what was really in his heart and mind. How sick he really was. To often a mistake is made on individual appearances. As a result, you can be manipulated. Jack was able to deceive others into believing he was - rehabilitated however, this was a very sick man. Many somehow forgot how he ended up in prison in the first place. He killed. There should have been someone in authority saying - wait a minute, don't forget who Jack really is and what he is capable of doing.
I recall (a bit foggy on the details) two similar cases here in the US. One involved William F. Buckley and the second involved Norman Mailer. In both cases, their support helped release two convicted murderers (who could write) both of whom murdered or attempted to murder again and were sent back to jail. Intellectual's privilege and narcissism seems as good an explanation as any.
So true. "Oh, he has something in common with me. He's one of us. Therefore his life is more important than that of other people."
Buckley was a conservative (for anyone unaware).
@@healerscreek He was indeed!
Who is the individual released that you are referring to?
@@colinmontgomery1956 Hi Colin. William F. Buckley was involved in the release of convicted murderer Edgar Smith and Norman Mailer used his celebrity to help free convicted murderer Jack Henry Abbott. Both Smith and Abbot were good writers who attracted celebrity intellectual attention. Smith's post prison release victim did not die. There are many articles on the internet if you want more details. Regards, JB
I so look forward to your videos!! Your intelligence, knowledge of these topics are simply unmatched! Your humor is superb and I always learn, laugh, and thoroughly enjoy watching you!! Thank you so very much!! Ps...YES, Dr. Grande's voice is very soothing !
Something similar happened with William F Buckley Jr.
Helped free a murderer who went on to murder again. Interesting case if you haven’t looked into it yet
I think you are thinking of Norman Mailer- he help get Jack H Abbott paroled because Abbott wrote well.
Abbott was out for about 6 weeks before he killed a waiter that wouldn't let him use a bathroom.
Mailer was warned that Abbott had a hair trigger temper.
How can a lib be wrong?
@@ratdad48 exactly funny that liberals are considered left wing yet they think they're right.
The man’s name was Edgar Smith. He murdered a 15 year old girl in 1957. Her name was Vicki Zielinski. He wrote to Buckley and they started a correspondence. Buckley thought he was innocent and through his influence he got out in 1971. In 1976 he attacked a woman at knife point coming home from work. Her name is Lisa Ozbun. He forced her in his car, stabbed her but miraculously she escaped from his car, with his knife in her chest. Yes she survived. He was eventually caught. His ex wives said he was violent and there was at least one instance where a woman he dated felt she had escaped from a certain death.
What !!!! I know that!! Never said he was. I used to watch his show. Firing line. Get a hold of your self!
Reminds me of the story of Norman Mailer's efforts to gain the release of the killer Jack Abbott from prison. I thought that was what this vid was going to be about.
I was thinking the same thing.
Thanks
Your videos are therapeutic. Thank you
So what became of those idiots who lobbied for his freedom? Maybe they should be locked up as well.
I know right
Indeed. I wonder if the relatives of the murdered women have a legal case for a private prosecution of his supporters and apologists? If I was a human rights lawyer I’d do it pro bono.
At least one of them got the Nobel Prize! (seriously)
Günter Grass is dead.
@@andyisdead I was referring to Nobel Prize Winner Elfriede Jelinek, one of Unterweger's biggest supporters and with affiliations to the Communist Party. She is also famous feminist, which is ironic as she knew he was in prison originally for murdering a woman.
I'd be curious to hear Dr. Grande's opinion on legalizing prostitution and whether it would decrease the risk of violence against sex workers.
Sadly, those elite intellectuals were not "self proclaimed", if they only had been. They all were at the top of their respective profession, which makes it worse. People like that are convinced that they, and only they, can save the world from some perceived evil. They are devoid of any moral compass and common sense, vain and attention seeking. At this time, they were highly respected within the German and Austrian educated classes. That said, your analysis, specifically that "birds of a feather..." bit, is excellent and very enlightening.
Thanks!
Genuine question: what happened to Dr Grande's episode from a few days ago on Anne Heche and her car accident? I can't find it anymore. Does its removal have anything to do with the fact that it is now looking almost certain that she will not make it out alive (and is clinically brain dead)?
Maybe because she is most likely not going to survive?
He must have taken it down.
Which is good, Because it was in bad taste.
Good taste to take it down.
@@AABB-bm9kk I KR? That one felt very unnecessary. Perhaps he just couldn’t resist the opportunity to throw in multiple jokes.
Has it gone? Good. Didn’t watch it - just saw the thumbnail. Scraping the bottom of the barrel making jokes about that.
Let it sink in, respected psychoanalysts, historians, authors, publicists, even a literature Nobel Prize winner lobbied to have this psychopath released earlier. After that, he was a welcome guest at fancy parties and on TV talk shows. They hung on his lips and he was just a strange and unpleasant guy. I spent my youth in Austria in the nineties and never understood these crazy incidents. It was like being in a bad movie. These people involved never talked about their motives afterwards. Except for his ex, a young lawyer who fell for him. In Austria, people like to sweep things under the table. I remember that the trial of Josef Fritzl lasted only 4 days and not even his wife or co-responsible employees of the youth welfare office were questioned or heard as witnesses.
I am German, and I agree. Btw, all this applies to Germany as well.
This case reminds me of the celebs who signed the “Free Roman Polanski” petition.
Good point - and clearly shows how Grande is a dumbass politically, to compare a liberal and a far Leftist, completely different- libs are less Left significantly than actual Leftists and libs are often wealthy or at least comfortable so are just fine with capitalism- which Leftists staunchly oppose- therefore the Leftist view that many Liberals are hypocritical is often true- they are either that or uninformed
Yes, and those that believe O.J Simpson and Casey Anthony are innocent. Same delusional crowd.
How is it comparable? Roman Polanksi is a 90 year old, who once had sex with an underage woman in the 70's. Ever since, he hasn't been known to engage in crimes.
This person was a murderer, who once released from prison, started killing more people.
What Polanksi did is not even on the same scale of evil.
In my opinion, this is one of your absolute best analyses, Dr. Grande. This case is so outrageous that it really does defy logic, common sense, and how the rule of law should operate. It’s like the liberal elites decided to do an experiment to show just how much certain artistic people need to be out and free no matter what they have perpetrated in their past. So their seeming experiment went terribly wrong and suddenly they got to see the horror of just how flawed their own ideals really were.
You brought all of this together and made it make sense both on its face and under the deep, dark surface. The murkiness cleared up the more you explained the nuances of just how Jack was raised and how he viewed the world long before the elitist experiment. This very thorough and articulate analysis by you made this case ten times more interesting than it already was. I always appreciate your thorough analyses. Thank you, Dr. Grande.
You can detect it in their opinion 'Don't mix the person with the persons art'. I read that a lot according to Roman Polanski, or the other celebrities, who were caught criming.
Dr. Grande has the best insights of various topics/stories
“That last part was not part of the writing assignment”
Omg 😂 😂
Hotel Clerk: Are you sure you want to stay here. It's dangerous
Jack: Hold my beer 🍺
Dr G it seems like you have taken down the Anne Heche roast episode. I'm so glad.
What always strikes me weird is how people hang themselves so often in prison. I don't think it would be easy to hang myself, let alone with a shoelace or bedsheet.
I suspect that it is not the hanging that is difficult, but the act of living in those cases.
Determination.
I think they took away shoestrings for that reason. Bedsheet would be kinda tough.
@@judybrown7601 Both Jeffrey Epstein and Aaron Hernandez used bedsheets to hang themselves in prison.
Oh there's probably some complots involving the guards, the illuminati and the extraterrestrials. "They" know something for sure..
I find this a very interesting case, thanks for your video. The fact he was a guy with a certain good looks helped him... Which also proves how we have a tendency of judging people by their looks
You can read about the destructive actions of intellectuals and their immunity from consequences by reading Thomas Sowell. He will open your eyes.
Wow…interesting story! I’m surprised I’ve never heard of him till now. Thanks again Dr. Grande!!!
Doesn't surprise me , it's the kind of thing the left elites like to bury down the memory hole.
Imagine being choked with your own bra. What would that be like?
It’s odd that they thought it was a waste of his talents to be in prison, where he had written the work they liked and could continue to write about as well as anywhere.
They identified with him. That's always dangerous.
This case is infuriating.
Have you heard about the A.U.R.A. case of Amanda Rabb? AURA is practicing AI psychiatry without a license and their first patient was well documented on Soft White Underbelly here on TH-cam, and she died while in their care. Please look at Lima from AURA and the Soft White Underbelly channel. Some weird ish is going on there.
Such a great channel
I saw that story. It’s so heart breaking. 😣
Yes!!!! This woman concerns me deeply.
Amanda *Rabb*
@@Iseedeadpplss thank you! Ive been commenting to ask about this case a bunch, I have no idea why it spell checked it to that today. Ugh. I will fix.
I kinda feel bad for only writing this finally on this video. I've been wanting to say you are really funny. I found this channel when I was trying to understand my diagnosis better. I love how the tone of the video stays the same with these zingers thrown in. It'd be hard for my husband and I to not laugh at our own jokes. I just love it.
There needs to be some public shame for these so-called intellectuals. He represented their fantasy that bad people can become good, so they saw nothing else. They are accessories to those murders. Recently here in Canada a young and obviously troubled man was arrested for ASSAULT and STALKING. He was released the same day. He attacked three women and killed two of them. The judge who let him go should be sent to prison.
I'm interested in how someone proclaims themselves to be elite. Who are these "intellectuals" and "elites"? A video on the people who supported this killer could shed light on the endlessly fascinating question, "why do people believe what they believe?"
I think it's when they reach a certain socioeconomic status and thus have the ability to turn their nose up at their roots (if they had humble beginnings). Those ones are the worst to me because they literally grew up in and around the crime rate they then later decide doesn't really exist.
I, myself, lean left of center. I dated a person even leftier than me and I have to say that one of the most aggravating things about her was her proclaiming, in theory, that "of course, everyone has blind spots" but, in practice, she could never acknowledge when she was operating on assumptions, archetypes and classist bigotry -- which she did a lot. She identified herself as too self-aware and woke to ever possibly have those blind spots. And, like Dr. Grande, she is a clinical psychologist with a PhD. So she would pull rank and just say she knows better than me whenever I asserted something she disagreed with or didn't like. Crazy making.
I'm so glad then to see that 'd' at the end of 'date'-. We tend to label ourselves as left or right and I think that barring the most extreme on both sides, we are more alike than we give ourselves credit for. It's just that the talking-head arbiters of misery want us at each other's throats for fear we wake up one day to find their roles obsolete.
This wasn't the first lunatic Austrian that people grossly underestimated his evil. ;)_
Right??
Murder seems to be a repeating theme for them.
@@Hollylivengood what a statement! Assuming you are from the US, I could easily make an even worse statement about your country.
@@haraldgmeiner4507 does it involve mass shooting? Oopppsssss.... 🙊🙊🙊✌✌✌
Yes , youd think the Austrians would have closer scrutiny on anyone like that . Being concvicted for murder by strangulation of his first victim ( lot of rage there ! ) was a bit of a giveaway .
This is my favorite video of yours so far. Love your wry commentary.
The good doctor has such a wry and cogent sense of humor. Love watching this guy.
Who ever heard of an artistic Austrian writing a book in prison, and then committing mass murder?.
I was waiting for the doc to make the comparison and was surprized when he didn't.
Ha ha... yeah... good one!
You forgot the suicide too . . .
The Austrians seem to not be able to recognize serial killers. They say the most vicious of the Nazis, besides just the little corporal, were Austrians.
Murderers shouldn’t be allowed to get out. For all I care they can give him the Nobel Prize for literature but if you kill someone, especially if it’s a man killing a vulnerable person like a sex worker, you should never get out
This not how the european law works. If you are sentence for a crime like murder (it does not matter how many you killed) you never do life. You can get up to 20/25 years, and normally you are paroled for good behavior years prior.
You can end up in a psychiatry clinic and be released after a short time too.
I am a prison abolitionist, but there are some people, who i would accept keeping in prison until there are no other people left to release: Those who prey on the weak the way he did, and those who glorify the prison the way you did.
Anyone who helped him get released should be forced to go apologize to his victims family in person.
But I doubt the type of person that's so shallow to want someone to be released because they're a good writer would be bothered by a sobbing family.
@@volodyanarchist huh
I agree
Dr. Grande, did you take down the Anne Heche video? I can't find it
I gather she was in a car accident and is now quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.
this is SO shocking. I almost cannot believe it yet I know you are faithfully reporting the facts. How outrageous. I am disgusted by this horrible predator and the idiots who let him out, and the stupid police who didn't realise they were driving a killer around!
Very interesting. Especially the opinion/analogy of the elites. Thanks 🙏
I love your analysis, those elites are partly responsible for the murders
Halloween is coming up.
Might I suggest a series ,for around that time?
•The Reverend Harry Powell [Night of The Hunter]
•Johnny Barrett [Shock Corridor]
•Dr. Sidney Shaefer [The President's Analyst]
•General James Scott [Seven Days in May]
•President Merkin [Dr. Strangelove or: How Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Bomb]
Any ,one, would be a worthwhile study.
Alternates
•Aimee Thanatogenos [The Loved One]
•Thomas Jerome Newton [The Man Who Fell to Earth]
•Fredo Corleone [The Godfather]
•Eric Foreman (AKA Clarence Boddiker) [That 70's Show/ Robocop]
Was that cat still alive?
As an Austrian, these people would probably not be broadly considered "far left" in the Austrian discourse. We tend to talk about such issues differently than Americans.
Definitely not
Not all of them were for sure, but people like Elfriede Jelinek who have been affiliated with the bloody Austrian Communist Party are certainly far-left.
@@TheCantoneseInvestor Fair enough. Perhaps the title should just have been "weirdos of all political persuasions free future serial killer."
In the US everything that’s not Uber-freemarket capitalism is considered far left.
I was wondering about that. Communists in Austria?
I had problems with some of your conclusions in the past but here I think that you are absolutely on point. Well done^^
I work in downtown LA. In December 2021 the Cecil Hotel was designated for housing the homeless. As of today, only about 75 of the 600+ rooms are occupied. I guess the place does indeed have a reputation.
Should analyze the Matt Walsh “what is a woman” documentary.
Yea Dr Grande. Its One Of The Greatest Documentaries Of Our Time!
Walsh is garbage.
Or he could analyze Matt Walsh, the guy that claims to think “the truth” is important (therefore he misgenders trans people) but justifies his homophobia based on the Bible, which cannot be objectively proven to be “true”.
He doesn't want to be cancelled by the left
I HOPE YOU ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT .BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR YOU
"Very liberal" is not the same thing as "far left," by the by. Liberalism is not a leftist position and its something we here in North America seem to have a serious problem understanding thanks in many ways to our political climate. Just figured I'd point that part out, especially given the context of an Austrian criminal.
I don’t understand how so many people get this wrong. I also don’t understand why it took me scrolling through comments for an hour to find one person that mentioned this. You’d think Dr Grande would understand the nuance since he’s very intelligent. “Very liberal” and “far left” are not synonymous.
Agreed, disappointed that Dr.Grande didn’t clarify this issue.
None of the current labels used in the media has any relationship to what the words are supposed to mean. It's just labeling to manipulate the readers.
Dr Grande… please educate yourself on the nuances between liberalism and the far left. You’re obviously clueless. Furthermore ‘elites’, don’t have a specific political alliance. Tons of conservative ’elites’. Too bad that I now portray you as untrustworthy.
Did he delete the Anne Heche video?
Yes, good riddance. It was evil and the poor woman is dying already.
@@korpienmahtijullit7508 it was in poor taste and tbh she was actually a good actress...she just ended up doing crappy films.
This was an excellent in-depth analysis.
It says a lot more about his own biases.
A 2017 report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office found that of the 85 deadly extremist incidents since September 11, 2001, far right-wing extremist groups were responsible for 73%, while radical Islamist extremists were responsible for 27%.
No deaths were attributed to left-wing groups.
The Department of Homeland Security reported in October 2020 that white supremacists posed the top domestic terrorism threat, which FBI director Christopher Wray confirmed in March 2021, noting the bureau had elevated the threat to the same level as ISIS.
@@ClannCholmain in that case, I completely agree with his biases. It's not a contest for extremist incidents. It's about the failure of a "justice" system.
@@joanofarcxxi and you can’t see the failure of your justice system because of your biases?
Well, okay then.
@@ClannCholmain I am not sure exactly what your point is... A. I am not American. B. As I stated, I didn't realize this was a justice system contest. Bye.
Fascinating analysis. Thank you.
I'm glad we here in Austria legalised prostitution. That makes these kind of murder much rarer. Its legal inside brothels. No prostitutes on the streets to be lured to remote places. They have health care, pension, pay taxes. Had we done that before Unterweger was active many life's might have been saved
And also the intellectuals shouldn't have freed him as criminals should stay locked up even if you like their personality. He killed in Austria too so it wouldn't have stopped him.
Wasn't that song Jeanny from Austrian singer Falco based on Unterweger?
@@hudder92 prostitution war legalised after his death. That's why I said had we done it earlier it might have saved some lifes. He would've still killed but probably less.
And yeah allegedly he's the inspiration for Jeanny.
Yes,they are in prostitution because they like it. Keep up the good work.
@@ms-jl6dl some people want to do it. It's always existed and will always exist. What's better? Legal brothels with mandatory health checks, police checking papers regularly to try to prevent trafficking, health care, pension, sick pay every legal right employees have, in the safety of a brothel, or illegal Street prostitution with pimps, no legal rights, way easier human trafficking. I used to work at a mc Donald's close to a brothel, the ladies were regulars. They seemed quite content with their job. My mum lived next to a brothel, you could hear lots of giggles oddly enough that's the only noise I heard from there. It's now mostly big chains like any other business.
You crack me up man! I can't help it. 😆
I think this quack is an Adolf
We need a system like in Austria where you don't need a unanimous decision to convict.
Same in Australia, they can do it with 11 out 12 makes them guilty.
After a few hours you can do it on 10 out of 12 in the UK.
Great analysis as usual. I enjoyed it very much….. as usual
Your analysis and explanation beginning about 12:00 of the correlation of traits and examples of behavior was one of the best I have ever heard and I have spent 40 years in criminality. Oops I meant criminology.
I saw this story on Discovery ID. It was a series called Murder at the Cecil Hotel I think. It was a few years ago but very good. It also covered Richard Ramirez and Elisa Lamb. There were some strange things happening there.
Odd you spelled Elisa's surname 'lamb'. It was actually Lam, but she was one led to the slaughter.
In Elisa lam case, when you read the police report, there's nothing strange about it. She had a psychotic episode because she wasn't taking her medications for at least 2 weeks prior to her disparition, was expulsed after her roommate at the hotel complained about her erratic comportement. Contrary to the popular beliefs, the roof was easily accessible at that time and the water tank she was found in was open and relatively easy to access. It's easily available in the police report as the autopsy stated she didn't have drugs in her system when they should have found her medications in her blood. There were none and the police found at least 2 weeks of her untouched prescription pills in her belongings. But theses facts aren't often stated because people and some TH-cam channels prefer to believe in some paranormal and fantastical nonsense. There's nothing to change the mind of people who want to believe in ghosts or other nonsenses because they want to believe theses things so badly and the psychotic episode, while true, is a boring explanation.
@@xminusone1 Every show I've seen about Elisa Lamb mentions her mental illness And says she was off her meds. But being found naked, on a roof, in a water storage facility that had No attached ladder seems pretty strange to me. I'm not sure where you're from Martin but where I'm from that is all classified as strange.
@@xminusone1 and her family want all the stories to stop. They saw the recording of her in the lift and said it wasn’t unusual for her to behave that why, she had before when not on medication. As you say there’s a sad and boring explanation: she was seeing things, she would seek out places to hide, the door to the roof was open, and the water tank was open and accessible. Once in there was no way out. The incorrect police report about the hatch being closed (it wasn’t, the first officer closed it) hasn’t helped the mythology. It’s a sad story for what it truly is; a young woman dying because of her mental health
@@Alexandra-zp3gr LOL....Good old auto correct to the rescue 😊 every time!
Yo! Dr. Grande, your humor is out of pocket lol but it certainly lightens the mood. Never heard of Jack… what a piece of work. Can’t imagine someone murdering my loved one and people begging for the murderer’s release because he’s a good writer. Unreal.
I'd like Dr. Grande to analyze the very recent case of a popular TH-cam mental health counselor who posted an inappropriate video about the actress Ann Heche prior to deleting it from his channel. The good doctor wouldn't be analyzing his own video or his reaction to the story, mind you.. but rather a situation *like* this.
Hahaha
OMG the Cecil Hotel a murderer and a total coward - a total psychopath con artist and dangerous. Brillant annalysis, well done.
So clear, cogent, and-above all-true! Thanks for your videos!
I wonder how much of his being in prison for murder accounted for the high value placed on his work. If he hadn’t, would his literary writings have stood on their own as so exceptional that he should be embraced by the elite and included in their circles? I think this is where openness to experience plays an important role. Many of the elite, born of elite, have had their lives planned out since day one. Others who gained fame and fortune, such as Cher and Zsa Zsa Gabor had to live by a script in order to attain and retain their status. However, bad boy Jack had lived by his own rules, unrestrained by the dictates of family or society. So, perhaps, that was an element of their attraction to him and it was, simply, thrilling to be in his presence.
These cases produce shadenfreude in many because it’s safely distanced from them. When Ted Bundy was on the run he was reportedly spotted within a couple of blocks of where my wife and I lived at the time.
Dr., do you ever sleep??? Thanks for your dedication to your craft. Sleep well dr.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Just subscribed.., Thank you.
Good work and good analysis ! Thank you !
What a great pity that he didn’t use the drawstring a number of years earlier. Intellectual elites are a plague.
This is as ignorant as calling undereducated people dumb. The man who made this video is an intellectual and expert.