@@GeniusEliteZ did you not read what I just said? remember unity? it still needs time. the engine has great assets to work with, its just not optimized well yet, needs time. hence the frame time studders. Thank you for validating what I just said.
@@IDEKYOUANYMORE I get what you're saying, but tbh UE4 still isn't great in that regard after years of development. It is a very capable and versatile development engine overall still. Hoping CDPR can really put it over as far as how it handles asset streaming.
@@IDEKYOUANYMOREthat makes it shitty tho. it’s supposed to be a gaming engine. optimizarion is essentially so yes it’s a crap engine. it looks amazing and it would be good for rendering etc. but we’re talking about gaming
Anyone who says the 4070Ti Super can't handle 1440p has something very wrong with their eyes. Cyberpunk 2077, Black Myth Wukong, Hellblade 2, Star Wars Outlaws (sigh), Warhammer 40k: Space Marine 2, Alan Wake 2 etc..... all play well over 100fps with optimised settings.
@RyanRoberts-qf5et and well dlss quality its very gréât but à apart of black ́myth or Alan wake 2 or ue5 games recently games with rt no need to play with dlss . In most aaa games pretty récent i play with max settinngs in native with 4070 ti super
The best GPU of the 40xx series in terms of value. Yes, technically the 4070 Super offers more frames per dollar, but its 12GBs of VRAM is already a limiting factor in some games and it'll only get worse. Meanwhile the 4070 Ti Super has enough VRAM to stay relevant a couple of years and it's significantly cheaper than the 4080, which only gets a 15% uplift in performance for that premium, which isn't worth it.
AMD Ryzen 5 7600 4x 16gb CL36 Kingston Valkyrie DL125 Loki Cooler 2 intake fans and two exhaust Unfortunately 1 tb ssd crucial And 500 gb ssd crucial I really should get m.2 drives but the hours are I work and how busy I can be I tend to forget lmaooo and the speed storage doesn’t bother me other than speed
Very good video,iVadim! I have this exact gpu combined with the ryzen 7 7800X3D and for 1440p works like a beast. You always have a very good and brief explanation about everything and the way you present your benchmarks makes it so interesting to watch! I hope your channel gets more attention and recognition,you deserve it man!
I wouldn't call it brief😄 Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate the support🤝🙂 Nice build by the way👍 I'm also thinking about swapping the 14700KF to 7800X3D.
@theivadim I have a 7800x3d and a 13900k. I prefer the Intel system. 7800x3d doesn't have the ass to push frames in heavy games like the Intel CPUs do. AMD artificially locks down the X3D cpus, so there isn't much you can do to improve performance. ECLK can work, but the gains are often very minimal.
@@GameslordXY Dragons Dogma 2, Remnant 2, First Descendant, Gray Zone Warfare, and surprisingly Dying Light 2. Those are just a few games I've noticed issues. The 1%/.01% lows also seem to be consistently higher on the Intel system than the X3D in most games.
@@theivadim you should definitely swap your Intel cpu with the 3D chip. Especially now with all the instability with the 13th and 14th gen. The Ryzen CPU has much more power efficiency,lower temps,much easier to cool and sometimes it even beats the 14700kf.
I don't like the 'solution' of playing at a lower resolution to get more fps. I'd rather turn down some demanding settings which don't make too much of a visual difference. Native res looks a lot better than upscaling in most cases.
bro i think you should start doing fps games too! like 4070 super + 7600x . a lot of us are all rounded gamer! you should do all game test using the given specs you own! just saying thank you.
I experimented making 1+ hour videos covering all sorts of popular games including competitive FPS. But those videos weren't doing well at all. People tune out after watching 2-3 first games. That's why I do these videos the way I do them now. I still make sure to test competitive FPS games when I test CPUs. I feel like that's a must.
@@et2k166 Mostly I would agree. However it depends on the fans used. You only need to increase blade size by a small amount to massively increase air flow. Many three fan designs have a third fan that is effectively doing very little. Often it's the front most or rear most fan that can be redundant on a 3 fan system, depending on the card and where on the board the heat is generated. Plenty of examples in tests done on HU of GN where two fan cards outperform 3 fan cards in terms of heat, noise and wattage used.
I love the video man, do you think 4070 super or 4070 ti super is a worthy upgrade for my 3070 fe ? Kinda started to get low fps in the newly released games
Thanks for the kind words🤝🙂 It's difficult to say. The 4070 Ti SUPER is pricy. And the 4070 SUPER is not a huge upgrade over the 3070 in terms of raw performance. The only reason I could see pushing you to upgrade is issues that some games are experiencing when you are limited by 8GB of memory on the 3070. Currently, I'm using the 4070 SUPER paired with a 4K monitor and it feels great to game on this setup thanks to DLSS resolution upscaling. Sometimes I have to use DLSS Balanced to get that 60+ FPS 4K. But I'm quite happy with the experience that 4070 SUPER provides. You can watch some of my videos that demonstrate the experience to see how that compares to yours. Hopefully that'll help you to make the right decision for you.
Looking at how Alan Wake 2 perform, it seems like getting 16GB is very reasonable these days. With Ray Tracing or not since it's very close even in 2024. I thought Forbidden West is already VRAM demanding enough but damn Alan Wake 2 are much worse. I guess if you are playing 1080p and 1440p, green cards are still decent because of the DLSS. One thing I have to tell you is that your fps overlay is not contrasty enough, especially in Forbidden West for example. It gets well blended together with the game. I wish you can change the color to something else. I'm watching on a phone and usually having hard time to spot and need to zoom in. This is just a constructive critism though. Anyway thanks for the thoughts. 🤷🏻♀️
AW2 is not a VRAM hog at all. 12GB is enough to run this game at native 1440p/Maxed out + PT + FG. Horizon FW and Ratchet & Clank definitely need more VRAM. With everything at max + FG even at 1440p they need more than 12GB to run properly. And HFW does not even have RT! This game is officially the main VRAM eater for the moment. Nixxes latest PS ports amaze by how inefficient they are, when it comes to VRAM usage.
did upscaling multiple times on PC games, and on EMU, it was always the same as a medium jump. Even on vids shows it's not a big jump and pics show this too. I watched vids on my 4K TV and the jump isn't big like I said it's med.
@@78treize I wouldn't wait. Just buy what you need now. The RTX 5060 is most likely at least 6 months away by my most optimistic estimates. In worst case, you could end up waiting for 1 year or longer.
@@DominikVarga-1 I've not touched an Inno3D card for many years. So, I'm not in a position to comment on their quality. Personally, I always go for one of the big three: MSI, ASUS, or GIGABYTE.
Hold your horses...I thought Nvidia cards can do path tracing?...900p internal resolution gets you 40 FPS, so balance most likely still won't get a consistent 60. So with so much compromise needed, why is there so much cope with path tracing?...$800 dollars this GPU cost with dedicated RT hardware for assisted help. Do people understand Path tracing will only get more difficult to run on these current GPUs, so choosing a GPU right now based on it's path tracing capabilities is ridiculously unwise.
@@theivadim nobody knows that. I'm specifically talking about path tracing. Because without RT, The 6800xt has been out for 4 yrs, and it's still out performing the 4070. The 3080 is still matching or out performing the 4070, 3090 is still out performing the 4070 super. 2-3 yrs, these current gen GPUs will be just fine, thanks to better upscalers and Frame generation. Nothing wrong with future proofing if you don't care about Path tracing, if path tracing is part of your future proofing plan, then it doesn't make sense buying GPUs from this gen.
@@RX7800XTBenchmarks I don't care about Pathtracing much, but I do about regular Raytracing. 4070 Super is a minimum when it comes to ideal cards without Frame generation usage. With Frame Generation, even the very hated 4060Ti 16GB becomes a fantastic card for 1440p and very nice even for 4K.
Path tracing is still very demanding but can run easily with framegen and dlss. Base ray trscing running superior on this cards. Also the 3090 not faster than a 4070s as i had both. The 4070s just faster in every way. We need to get used to its no more native resolution anymore. It will be upscaler like dlss and fsr and frame generation. This gen u need a 4070s and you sorted as has frame gen and superior dlss. I have a 7900xt for now but more preferred my 4070s as it has better upscaler and in every game u need that.
Honestly how can you play with upscaling and frame generation enabled? Yeah, framerate is higher, but image quality is horrible. Are there any cards out there with pure hardware performance that don't have to destroy image quality to improve framerate? If you are going to trade quality for performance just set all settings to minimum without gimmicks like upscaling and frame gen.
Have you tried DLSS recently? You can't form a proper opinion about this technology if you only watch comparisons on TH-cam that have footage slowed down and zoomed in to show any visual imperfections. I was sceptical about DLSS before I tried it myself earlier this year.
@@theivadim I'm on a GTX 1060 so I haven't tried it directly but even your footage in this video looks a lot worse to me with DLSS. Image looks really muddy (I guess because of low resolution). Maybe it is using up all VRAM, so game has to use lower resolution textures or something. I'm considering building a desktop to replace my current laptop and 4070TiS was one of GPUs I considered (alongside 7900XTX that is the same price). But seeing these results, I refuse to pay over 1100€ for a card that can't play games at 1440p let alone 4k. Digital Foundry did analysis of DLSS and frame gen in CP2077 and to me those looked terrible. I guess all that I have left is hope that AMD will actually make something good with their next gen GPUs since Nvidia is just going to double down on AI, DLSS and price increase. I wish PC players would demand better looking games and not just higher FPS at any cost.
DLLS has come a long way. I'm not a fan of frame generation however, I still feel like they need to work on that. But these games are so taxing right now that DLSS really helps with performance while maintaining a very good image quality.
@@GilbertGuilfordwhat are you talking about A 4070 ti super cant run games at 1440p .. Keep your poor1060 and go away y😂😂😂 A 4070 ti super is made for 1440p above a 4070 ti super is for 4k stop complaining you can play games with native résolution above 70 fps with a 4070 ti super
@@victorito07 In every benchmark I've seen on youtube it can't unless you lower the graphical settings. It can't even run 9 years old Witcher 3 at highest settings and ray tracing enabled. It falls below 20fps in Novigrad.
When even the card is bad. Its a 4070 ti super the6th Best card 😂😂😂 Of course is not bad its a high quality card and made for 1440p and also can play in 4k
My 7900XT getting better FPS at those settings than much more expensive 4070Ti Super. But you paying for DLSS and Fake Generation, where AMD has better raw power, and also added it's own Fake Generation, which is very useful for AMD in the RT area, where 4070 handling way better, but still no without DLSS and FG, and FG is useful Only with 120hz or more TV/Monitors, because it's getting useless with 60hz as it's increasing only input latency significantly. I love my 7900XT, and I'm not Fan Boy, because if only 4070TI Super, wouldn't cost almost £800+ in my city, then I would choose 4070 over 7900XT for RT performance, but to be honest, £679 7900XT it's no brainer at this point, with better performance without RT, and justify enough RT with FSR and FG. Although most game with RT, doesn't actually justifying RT quality over the cost of it in terms of performance hit. High Native Resolution (4K or 3200x1800p), Ultra details, over 60fps in most games. And games looking amazingly.
@@EdoXTensei stop meat riding amd . 7900 XT is only 5 6 fps faster in a handful of games , majority of times the ti super is faster . And just before u call frame gen fake frames , it's an amazing technology made by nvidia . Amd on the other hand is not able to deliver the same quality at all it's really bad . As far as rasterisation ti super Is the way to go it's literally the same . Stop fan boying amd. Not everyone wants to play with FSR and regret their buy
@@Fronioll9973 Like I've said, 4070Ti Super is way more expensive, and at 7900XT price I could get max 4070Super or Ti with lower end models. So for my budget 7900XT doing everything I want to, and it's strong enough to not using FSR at all, which is bad anyway (FSR 3.1 is a bit better than 2.2, but nothing near to DLSS). If I would have more money, I would go with Nvidia for sure, it's just for what I want, and my budget, 7900XT is more than enough. Also you sounds like Nvidia Fan Boy here, cuz you trying to compare 2 different GPUs prices.. 800£+ vs 679£+.. nearly 200 more for a better RT ( but nothing spectacular without FG) and fewer FPS without RT (few more in 2-3 games) + you yelling at me only bcs I have good opinion about AMD lol I won't call Frame Gen ''Fake Frames'' even tho they are lol, cuz it's seems usefull, but also with High Refresh rate TVs/Monitors only. So it's not like great for every one.
Please guys don't buy a 4070ti super. In most country the 4070ti super cost the same or higher than the 7900XTX (929€ brand new without sale in France). And have way worse performance, ray tracing included, than the 7900XTX. Even if the 4070ti super is lower than the 7900WTX in your country. That's a small price gap for so much performance by going for a 7900XTX. Plus due to the very low VRAM for such high price. You can't truly enjoy 4K (because in every modern game, due to DLSS taking more VRAM, many texture will be cut down, or performance drop)
@@victorito07 "Internet browser > 3D-mark > result > Port Royal/Solar Bay (mix of 3D with RT benchmark) > see average number > compare other average number > see bigger number of one side than another > brain not braining for you my friend ?
Nobody trusts AMD GPUs including myself and its awful for everything besides gaming, thats why we buy nvidia GPUs, not everyone is just gaming. It is what it is bro. I love my 7800x3d tho
Lol in The First Descendant my 4080 reachs 100 FPS on Ultra without Raytracing an FG + DLSS Quality Interesting this card isnt much slower. Sadge it wasnt released in the past…
Depends on the games you play. In some games the 5700X3D is significantly better than the 5600X. In others, not so much. What I'd do in this case is: buy the 4070 Ti SUPER and see how it goes. If the experience will not be satisfactory then upgrade the CPU to boost performance. You might be OK without spending the extra cash.
i got msi gaming x slim(3fans) at the release. I wanted a relative small gpu(its about 30cm long and 2,5 slots) but not in exchange of thermals or noises(there are smaller versions). it doesnt need a holder or a very powerfull PSU, it is extremely quiet(i am very sensitive to sounds) and you dont have to tune absolutely nothing.Thermals are excellent, fans will run most of the time at 30%.(assuming you have a somewhat a proper case with ventilation, mine isnt anything special btw) there may be better versions for sure, but for my needs this card is more than i hoped. Also power consumption is on the lower end, despite being factory oc'ed. At the time i bought it, i installed a newer VBIOS for the gpu, because the first version was slightly behind than other versions in terms of perfomance. i dont know if that is the case nowdays but either way all you have to do is to download a file from the official website and run it.. if you want a relative small and quiet card, this is definately a choice you should consider. also you can read other critics from other users to be safe
gigabyte gaming oc, AERO, aorus>asus>msi 3 fan is the list reliability wise. Gigabyte win the 4 series with the least problems, but all 3 are great tbh. asus, msi has a higher chance for coil whine as they newer capacitors which resonates more, but this could happen to any card. I wouldn't recommend a model with 2 fan but some people like it
У меня тоже есть карта 5070ти супер, только белая асус тюф. Монитор lg gp850 - b. Карты к сожалению уже не хватает в 1440р. Если играть в нативе и без мыла длсс конечно. Планирую брать уже 5080 когда выйдет
Hi, i have an AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT with 20GB VRAM. Do you know if the RTX 4070 TI super perform better then the Radeon GPU? in 1440p/4k Native without upscaling and Raytracing.
Its basically the same, some games amd is better, some games nvidia. Nvidia has plus features, amd has better raster power. Nvidia is more power efficent tho.
@@theivadimyes and ... what i see its its very good gpu .with a 4080 super you wil have to put dlss on anyway for this native résolution with the Last demanding games Who have ue5 buddy Its more bad optimisation of Last games with ue5 than a problem of gpu otherwise 4070 ti super is a Beast for 1440p and a very good gpu So saying 4070 ti weak for 1440p its factuelly false it cost alot but generally is a beast. And no need to have obligatory 100 fps in single player games like that 70 fps is still sufficiannt
@@GameslordXYit's barely better at raster performance like only 5 6 fps only in a few games without rt. And upscaling is so bad in amd I can't use it . 4070ti super makes a lot more sense idk why u all wanna get amd and play with the shitty fsr which genuinely looks so terrible it doesn't look like it has upscaled the image
Having to use dlss to play new games at 120+ fps is what made me skip the 40 series. The 4070 ti super is way too expensive to need dlss day one. And the 4080 super is $1,200 for only 5-15 fps as well. I can't bring myself to spend 900-1,300 after tax to use dlss for 120fps. I'll just run medium/ high settings on my 3060 ti for 60-80fps and dlss whenever it's needed.
Well no need to have 120 fps in single player games 70 is very smooth its very zéro différence. The only moment Will be in compétitive game but with a 4070 ti super you can play on native in compétitive game and Will more than 120 fps
I never liked Ventus Cards, I used to own a 3080 msi ventus 3x and temp is always 82 degrees on load. I switched it to ROG Strix 4070 t.i super and my temp is below 60 degree on load always
The 4090 is too weak for 1440p gaming! Go play Vladik Brutal at max settings. You'll see that even at 1440p, you get less than 60fps. At 4k, I get 16fps, and at 4k DLSS Quality, I get 26fps. Thankfully, the game has phenomenal graphics settings and can scale extremely well to all sorts of gpus. The game is also AMAZING!!!
So because 1 or 3 terribly optimised games that don't perform amazing even 4090 is too weak for 1440p? What then? 720p with DLSS Ultra Performance?🤣 Can you modify settings? Clouds,very distant shadows and textures... . Would you really notice huge, if any difference between 1440P MAX and Very High? Same with 4K
@@victorito07 Weak means a monster 4090 wouldn't be able to run 1440 great. 1440 has been mastered since like the 3080, which means almost every non-demanding/modded heavy/optimized great game runs as if they were being played on a 1080p screen using native high settings, so yeah, that's a troll.
@@cmoneytheman yeah i know that .read my comment Again A 4090 is made for 4k is a beast for élite rich Guy. So at 1440p it Will a big big monster And at 1080 no need to use a 4090 So yeah i know its a troll buddy
its so stupid how you pay 900$ and you can't even get a top of the line experience....bullshit....even a 4080 cant do 60fps+ on allan wake with pure rasterization. i just can't justify paying for a 3000$ compuiter just for gaming and still not get the full experience without worrying about struggling
A 300 pc can do fine for your daily life, you're speding for the gaming. It's like buying a console, there'a no difference: everybody has a PC, but if you want to play you need to spend
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I have this card, it slaps. Im Running a lot of RT ultra settings at 1440 easily.
Three or 2 fans ?
@@محمداليحيوي-ي4ط 3
@@محمداليحيوي-ي4ط only
@@محمداليحيوي-ي4ط3
@@محمداليحيوي-ي4طI've got 3 fans on mine
i don't think 4070ti Super is weak, Unreal Engine 5 is just a ****** Engine,
great engine, shtty optimization. learn the difference
@@IDEKYOUANYMORE yeah the unreal engine shader stutter must be good
@@GeniusEliteZ did you not read what I just said? remember unity? it still needs time. the engine has great assets to work with, its just not optimized well yet, needs time. hence the frame time studders. Thank you for validating what I just said.
@@IDEKYOUANYMORE I get what you're saying, but tbh UE4 still isn't great in that regard after years of development. It is a very capable and versatile development engine overall still. Hoping CDPR can really put it over as far as how it handles asset streaming.
@@IDEKYOUANYMOREthat makes it shitty tho. it’s supposed to be a gaming engine. optimizarion is essentially so yes it’s a crap engine. it looks amazing and it would be good for rendering etc. but we’re talking about gaming
Anyone who says the 4070Ti Super can't handle 1440p has something very wrong with their eyes. Cyberpunk 2077, Black Myth Wukong, Hellblade 2, Star Wars Outlaws (sigh), Warhammer 40k: Space Marine 2, Alan Wake 2 etc..... all play well over 100fps with optimised settings.
@RyanRoberts-qf5et what no . A 4070 ti super is actually made for play at 1440p
@RyanRoberts-qf5et i read it its more the bad optimized game than the 4070 ti super
Its a beast overall but ue5 and rt are still young features
@RyanRoberts-qf5et and well dlss quality its very gréât but à apart of black ́myth or Alan wake 2 or ue5 games recently games with rt no need to play with dlss .
In most aaa games pretty récent i play with max settinngs in native with 4070 ti super
@RyanRoberts-qf5et What's your opinion for 4080super in 1440p gaming
@RyanRoberts-qf5et yeah i would wait for 5000 series probably for a 5070 but i am not optomistic anymore
The best GPU of the 40xx series in terms of value. Yes, technically the 4070 Super offers more frames per dollar, but its 12GBs of VRAM is already a limiting factor in some games and it'll only get worse. Meanwhile the 4070 Ti Super has enough VRAM to stay relevant a couple of years and it's significantly cheaper than the 4080, which only gets a 15% uplift in performance for that premium, which isn't worth it.
@RyanRoberts-qf5et Learn to read...
@RyanRoberts-qf5etthat's what he said, read it again.
No one optimizes games anymore. Everything is made with dlss and fg in mind
Yea its very lazy
Unreal engine offers 15% better visuals for 150% more required power.
It is the opposite of optimised
I have a 4070 super ti ventus 3x and it slaps , plays 4K on my auros 48 inch oled Display
Games?
Settings?
Frames?
DLSS?
Frame Generation?
Native?
@@GameslordXYwhy play native if dlss looks like native and in some games better than that due to bad TAA implementation in native res
Same here my 4070ti super oc works fine for 4k
yes it can play 4k with most games, but these are the most demanding and here’s the result
AMD Ryzen 5 7600
4x 16gb CL36 Kingston
Valkyrie DL125 Loki Cooler
2 intake fans and two exhaust
Unfortunately 1 tb ssd crucial
And 500 gb ssd crucial
I really should get m.2 drives but the hours are I work and how busy I can be I tend to forget lmaooo and the speed storage doesn’t bother me other than speed
Very good video,iVadim! I have this exact gpu combined with the ryzen 7 7800X3D and for 1440p works like a beast. You always have a very good and brief explanation about everything and the way you present your benchmarks makes it so interesting to watch! I hope your channel gets more attention and recognition,you deserve it man!
I wouldn't call it brief😄 Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate the support🤝🙂 Nice build by the way👍 I'm also thinking about swapping the 14700KF to 7800X3D.
@theivadim I have a 7800x3d and a 13900k. I prefer the Intel system. 7800x3d doesn't have the ass to push frames in heavy games like the Intel CPUs do. AMD artificially locks down the X3D cpus, so there isn't much you can do to improve performance. ECLK can work, but the gains are often very minimal.
@jjlw2378
And what are those heavy games ?
@@GameslordXY Dragons Dogma 2, Remnant 2, First Descendant, Gray Zone Warfare, and surprisingly Dying Light 2. Those are just a few games I've noticed issues. The 1%/.01% lows also seem to be consistently higher on the Intel system than the X3D in most games.
@@theivadim you should definitely swap your Intel cpu with the 3D chip. Especially now with all the instability with the 13th and 14th gen. The Ryzen CPU has much more power efficiency,lower temps,much easier to cool and sometimes it even beats the 14700kf.
I play games at 4k and it looks and performs amazing
I don't like the 'solution' of playing at a lower resolution to get more fps. I'd rather turn down some demanding settings which don't make too much of a visual difference. Native res looks a lot better than upscaling in most cases.
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bro i think you should start doing fps games too! like 4070 super + 7600x .
a lot of us are all rounded gamer!
you should do all game test using the given specs you own! just saying
thank you.
I experimented making 1+ hour videos covering all sorts of popular games including competitive FPS. But those videos weren't doing well at all. People tune out after watching 2-3 first games. That's why I do these videos the way I do them now. I still make sure to test competitive FPS games when I test CPUs. I feel like that's a must.
whats the program you're using for performance stats?
CapFrameX
MSi Afterburner, it’s famous
what's the difference between 3 fanned gpu and the 2 fanned gpu? with both being 4070ti Super?
simple math, 2 fans should have way higher RPM to maintain reasonable temparature than 3 fans. So 2 fan GPU will be louder and hotter
@@et2k166 Mostly I would agree.
However it depends on the fans used. You only need to increase blade size by a small amount to massively increase air flow.
Many three fan designs have a third fan that is effectively doing very little. Often it's the front most or rear most fan that can be redundant on a 3 fan system, depending on the card and where on the board the heat is generated.
Plenty of examples in tests done on HU of GN where two fan cards outperform 3 fan cards in terms of heat, noise and wattage used.
I love the video man, do you think 4070 super or 4070 ti super is a worthy upgrade for my 3070 fe ? Kinda started to get low fps in the newly released games
Thanks for the kind words🤝🙂
It's difficult to say. The 4070 Ti SUPER is pricy. And the 4070 SUPER is not a huge upgrade over the 3070 in terms of raw performance. The only reason I could see pushing you to upgrade is issues that some games are experiencing when you are limited by 8GB of memory on the 3070. Currently, I'm using the 4070 SUPER paired with a 4K monitor and it feels great to game on this setup thanks to DLSS resolution upscaling. Sometimes I have to use DLSS Balanced to get that 60+ FPS 4K. But I'm quite happy with the experience that 4070 SUPER provides. You can watch some of my videos that demonstrate the experience to see how that compares to yours. Hopefully that'll help you to make the right decision for you.
Looking at how Alan Wake 2 perform, it seems like getting 16GB is very reasonable these days. With Ray Tracing or not since it's very close even in 2024. I thought Forbidden West is already VRAM demanding enough but damn Alan Wake 2 are much worse. I guess if you are playing 1080p and 1440p, green cards are still decent because of the DLSS. One thing I have to tell you is that your fps overlay is not contrasty enough, especially in Forbidden West for example. It gets well blended together with the game. I wish you can change the color to something else. I'm watching on a phone and usually having hard time to spot and need to zoom in. This is just a constructive critism though. Anyway thanks for the thoughts. 🤷🏻♀️
Good point. I'll look into the colour change to improve viewing comfort.👍
32GB costs barely any more than 16.
AW2 is not a VRAM hog at all. 12GB is enough to run this game at native 1440p/Maxed out + PT + FG.
Horizon FW and Ratchet & Clank definitely need more VRAM. With everything at max + FG even at 1440p they need more than 12GB to run properly. And HFW does not even have RT! This game is officially the main VRAM eater for the moment. Nixxes latest PS ports amaze by how inefficient they are, when it comes to VRAM usage.
@@stangamer1151 AW2 uses 14GB at max settings with FG and PT. 11GB without PT at native.
@@masterbuilder0018 At native 4K?
i got the same build but 240m for cpu like a week ago. W card
This would've been a much better video if it were some sort of screen capture situation.
With just DLSS quality i get over 150fps on Cyberpunk 1440p with Ultra settings on this card
Does dlss quality made différence with native resoltion ?
did upscaling multiple times on PC games, and on EMU, it was always the same as a medium jump.
Even on vids shows it's not a big jump and pics show this too. I watched vids on my 4K TV and the jump isn't big like I said it's med.
rocking a 4070 super now 1440p gaming is easy
How many of the same videos are you gonna make
As many as humanly possible.
Love this card have the Asus Tuf OC version runs every game maxed.
Ask me anything👇
should i wait for rtx 5000 or should i get an rtx 4060 now TNX.
@@78treize I wouldn't wait. Just buy what you need now. The RTX 5060 is most likely at least 6 months away by my most optimistic estimates. In worst case, you could end up waiting for 1 year or longer.
Inno3D GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER Twin X2 is good or i should go with a nother brand
@@DominikVarga-1 I've not touched an Inno3D card for many years. So, I'm not in a position to comment on their quality. Personally, I always go for one of the big three: MSI, ASUS, or GIGABYTE.
@@theivadim thanks
How would this cards performace compair to running on a non 4k monitor?
I'm confused. What do you mean by "non 4K monitor"?
Do you cap your fps in control panel??
I use Riva Tunner when I want to cap FPS. It's the best tool for proper capping.
@@theivadim why not nvidia control panel?
Bought the 4070ti comes in 2 days it’s a cooler/better rt version of a 3090
Hold your horses...I thought Nvidia cards can do path tracing?...900p internal resolution gets you 40 FPS, so balance most likely still won't get a consistent 60. So with so much compromise needed, why is there so much cope with path tracing?...$800 dollars this GPU cost with dedicated RT hardware for assisted help. Do people understand Path tracing will only get more difficult to run on these current GPUs, so choosing a GPU right now based on it's path tracing capabilities is ridiculously unwise.
Even without ray tracing, these GPUs will suck in games that'll be coming out in 2-3 years from now. Future-proofing is not good.
@@theivadim nobody knows that. I'm specifically talking about path tracing. Because without RT, The 6800xt has been out for 4 yrs, and it's still out performing the 4070. The 3080 is still matching or out performing the 4070, 3090 is still out performing the 4070 super. 2-3 yrs, these current gen GPUs will be just fine, thanks to better upscalers and Frame generation. Nothing wrong with future proofing if you don't care about Path tracing, if path tracing is part of your future proofing plan, then it doesn't make sense buying GPUs from this gen.
Well you can use Frame Generation
@@RX7800XTBenchmarks
I don't care about Pathtracing much, but I do about regular Raytracing.
4070 Super is a minimum when it comes to ideal cards without Frame generation usage.
With Frame Generation, even the very hated 4060Ti 16GB becomes a fantastic card for 1440p and very nice even for 4K.
Path tracing is still very demanding but can run easily with framegen and dlss. Base ray trscing running superior on this cards.
Also the 3090 not faster than a 4070s as i had both. The 4070s just faster in every way.
We need to get used to its no more native resolution anymore. It will be upscaler like dlss and fsr and frame generation.
This gen u need a 4070s and you sorted as has frame gen and superior dlss.
I have a 7900xt for now but more preferred my 4070s as it has better upscaler and in every game u need that.
can i pair it with 2 2k monitors?
Honestly how can you play with upscaling and frame generation enabled? Yeah, framerate is higher, but image quality is horrible. Are there any cards out there with pure hardware performance that don't have to destroy image quality to improve framerate? If you are going to trade quality for performance just set all settings to minimum without gimmicks like upscaling and frame gen.
Have you tried DLSS recently? You can't form a proper opinion about this technology if you only watch comparisons on TH-cam that have footage slowed down and zoomed in to show any visual imperfections. I was sceptical about DLSS before I tried it myself earlier this year.
@@theivadim I'm on a GTX 1060 so I haven't tried it directly but even your footage in this video looks a lot worse to me with DLSS. Image looks really muddy (I guess because of low resolution). Maybe it is using up all VRAM, so game has to use lower resolution textures or something.
I'm considering building a desktop to replace my current laptop and 4070TiS was one of GPUs I considered (alongside 7900XTX that is the same price). But seeing these results, I refuse to pay over 1100€ for a card that can't play games at 1440p let alone 4k.
Digital Foundry did analysis of DLSS and frame gen in CP2077 and to me those looked terrible.
I guess all that I have left is hope that AMD will actually make something good with their next gen GPUs since Nvidia is just going to double down on AI, DLSS and price increase.
I wish PC players would demand better looking games and not just higher FPS at any cost.
DLLS has come a long way. I'm not a fan of frame generation however, I still feel like they need to work on that. But these games are so taxing right now that DLSS really helps with performance while maintaining a very good image quality.
@@GilbertGuilfordwhat are you talking about A 4070 ti super cant run games at 1440p ..
Keep your poor1060 and go away y😂😂😂
A 4070 ti super is made for 1440p above a 4070 ti super is for 4k stop complaining you can play games with native résolution above 70 fps with a 4070 ti super
@@victorito07 In every benchmark I've seen on youtube it can't unless you lower the graphical settings. It can't even run 9 years old Witcher 3 at highest settings and ray tracing enabled. It falls below 20fps in Novigrad.
unreal engine is a fantastic engine, with abhorent optimization
I dont think this card is bad, it the most balance I think. it just the price is a lot
When even the card is bad.
Its a 4070 ti super the6th Best card 😂😂😂
Of course is not bad its a high quality card and made for 1440p and also can play in 4k
You experiment some noice using this gpu like coil white? I have this gpu and wen I play hear some noice
My 7900XT getting better FPS at those settings than much more expensive 4070Ti Super.
But you paying for DLSS and Fake Generation, where AMD has better raw power, and also added it's own Fake Generation, which is very useful for AMD in the RT area, where 4070 handling way better, but still no without DLSS and FG, and FG is useful Only with 120hz or more TV/Monitors, because it's getting useless with 60hz as it's increasing only input latency significantly.
I love my 7900XT, and I'm not Fan Boy, because if only 4070TI Super, wouldn't cost almost £800+ in my city, then I would choose 4070 over 7900XT for RT performance, but to be honest, £679 7900XT it's no brainer at this point, with better performance without RT, and justify enough RT with FSR and FG.
Although most game with RT, doesn't actually justifying RT quality over the cost of it in terms of performance hit.
High Native Resolution (4K or 3200x1800p), Ultra details, over 60fps in most games. And games looking amazingly.
@@EdoXTensei stop meat riding amd . 7900 XT is only 5 6 fps faster in a handful of games , majority of times the ti super is faster . And just before u call frame gen fake frames , it's an amazing technology made by nvidia . Amd on the other hand is not able to deliver the same quality at all it's really bad . As far as rasterisation ti super Is the way to go it's literally the same . Stop fan boying amd. Not everyone wants to play with FSR and regret their buy
@@Fronioll9973 Like I've said, 4070Ti Super is way more expensive, and at 7900XT price I could get max 4070Super or Ti with lower end models. So for my budget 7900XT doing everything I want to, and it's strong enough to not using FSR at all, which is bad anyway (FSR 3.1 is a bit better than 2.2, but nothing near to DLSS).
If I would have more money, I would go with Nvidia for sure, it's just for what I want, and my budget, 7900XT is more than enough.
Also you sounds like Nvidia Fan Boy here, cuz you trying to compare 2 different GPUs prices.. 800£+ vs 679£+.. nearly 200 more for a better RT ( but nothing spectacular without FG) and fewer FPS without RT (few more in 2-3 games) + you yelling at me only bcs I have good opinion about AMD lol
I won't call Frame Gen ''Fake Frames'' even tho they are lol, cuz it's seems usefull, but also with High Refresh rate TVs/Monitors only. So it's not like great for every one.
@@Fronioll9973 said by a nvidia fanboi
@@Chimera_0990tfr 🤡" nvidia fanboi " avg amd meat rider who gets offended when someone speaks facts
@@Chimera_0990tfr " nvidia fanboi "🤡 avg amd meat rider who gets offended when someone speaks facts
Please guys don't buy a 4070ti super. In most country the 4070ti super cost the same or higher than the 7900XTX (929€ brand new without sale in France). And have way worse performance, ray tracing included, than the 7900XTX. Even if the 4070ti super is lower than the 7900WTX in your country. That's a small price gap for so much performance by going for a 7900XTX.
Plus due to the very low VRAM for such high price. You can't truly enjoy 4K (because in every modern game, due to DLSS taking more VRAM, many texture will be cut down, or performance drop)
No false aboslutily false with the rt nivdia card are better
@@victorito07 "Internet browser > 3D-mark > result > Port Royal/Solar Bay (mix of 3D with RT benchmark) > see average number > compare other average number > see bigger number of one side than another > brain not braining for you my friend ?
Nobody trusts AMD GPUs including myself and its awful for everything besides gaming, thats why we buy nvidia GPUs, not everyone is just gaming. It is what it is bro. I love my 7800x3d tho
Lol in The First Descendant my 4080 reachs 100 FPS on Ultra without Raytracing an FG + DLSS Quality
Interesting this card isnt much slower.
Sadge it wasnt released in the past…
Its just below a 4080 its Still a high quality card fot élite gamers
But I just spent $800 on this shit. I sure hope it can run 1440p.
Of course it can run 😂😂.its an high quality card its made preciselly for 1440 p games .
If you want shit card go with a 1050 or
1440p =300 fps?
most deff not!! rage bait title!! it is over priced yes!! but this card is absolutely not to weak for 1440p
4090 can be too weak for 1080p depending on what youre doing
whice case is that?
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I have a 4070 Ti Super and only play in 1440 P
What is the best budget am4 cpu for 4070 ti super at 1440p?
5700X3D or 5800X3D if it costs around the same.
@@theivadim in my country the price different is around $120, what should i get? Btw thx for your reply
If the difference is that much then there's no reason to pay extra for the 5800X3D. The 5700X3D offers almost the same performance. I'd get that.
@@theivadim oke, thank you. One more question please, i've already using 5600x, is it good to upgrade it to 5700x3d?
Depends on the games you play. In some games the 5700X3D is significantly better than the 5600X. In others, not so much. What I'd do in this case is: buy the 4070 Ti SUPER and see how it goes. If the experience will not be satisfactory then upgrade the CPU to boost performance. You might be OK without spending the extra cash.
I’m trying to get 4070 ti super but from what brand do yall recommend and why
Get any brand. The cheapest you can find
@@shalltearbloodfallen8712 why are they not different because I heard they different in some things
i got msi gaming x slim(3fans) at the release. I wanted a relative small gpu(its about 30cm long and 2,5 slots) but not in exchange of thermals or noises(there are smaller versions). it doesnt need a holder or a very powerfull PSU, it is extremely quiet(i am very sensitive to sounds) and you dont have to tune absolutely nothing.Thermals are excellent, fans will run most of the time at 30%.(assuming you have a somewhat a proper case with ventilation, mine isnt anything special btw) there may be better versions for sure, but for my needs this card is more than i hoped. Also power consumption is on the lower end, despite being factory oc'ed. At the time i bought it, i installed a newer VBIOS for the gpu, because the first version was slightly behind than other versions in terms of perfomance. i dont know if that is the case nowdays but either way all you have to do is to download a file from the official website and run it.. if you want a relative small and quiet card, this is definately a choice you should consider. also you can read other critics from other users to be safe
gigabyte gaming oc, AERO, aorus>asus>msi 3 fan is the list reliability wise. Gigabyte win the 4 series with the least problems, but all 3 are great tbh. asus, msi has a higher chance for coil whine as they newer capacitors which resonates more, but this could happen to any card. I wouldn't recommend a model with 2 fan but some people like it
У меня тоже есть карта 5070ти супер, только белая асус тюф. Монитор lg gp850 - b. Карты к сожалению уже не хватает в 1440р. Если играть в нативе и без мыла длсс конечно. Планирую брать уже 5080 когда выйдет
Hi, i have an AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT with 20GB VRAM. Do you know if the RTX 4070 TI super perform better then the Radeon GPU? in 1440p/4k Native without upscaling and Raytracing.
Its basically the same, some games amd is better, some games nvidia. Nvidia has plus features, amd has better raster power. Nvidia is more power efficent tho.
Max hotspot temp pls
I'll measure that in my full review of this graphics card next week.
@@theivadim thanks
you call 80 fps as high xD 14:39
Well because its low 😂😂???
If course is high whatbare you talking about ́
Thérè are not compétitive games
Cyber power wow! Way to go cheap
Why would you not always use DLSS frame generation and quality mode of you can still get good graphics and RT?
Because they mess with the quality.
Too weak? It beats the 3090ti
Why does it matter which GPU it beats? The facts are right in front of our eyes.
@@theivadim because that was the flagship of the last generation lol pretty impressive imo
@@theivadimyes and ... what i see its its very good gpu .with a 4080 super you wil have to put dlss on anyway for this native résolution with the Last demanding games Who have ue5 buddy
Its more bad optimisation of Last games with ue5 than a problem of gpu
otherwise 4070 ti super is a Beast for 1440p and a very good gpu
So saying 4070 ti weak for 1440p its factuelly false it cost alot but generally is a beast.
And no need to have obligatory 100 fps in single player games like that 70 fps is still sufficiannt
I cannot chose between the 4070 ti super or the rx 7900 xt can you make a video about these 2 gpu’s pleas ?
4070ti easy choice imo I'll never run AMD over Nvidia. Nvidia support and compatibility hands down way ahead and better
@@lucaspoole1986
AMD has massively improved over time .
Massively.
Is Raytracing important to you?
How about content creation and AI?
4070Ti.
Not important?
Irelevant even?
7900XT
@@GameslordXYit's barely better at raster performance like only 5 6 fps only in a few games without rt. And upscaling is so bad in amd I can't use it . 4070ti super makes a lot more sense idk why u all wanna get amd and play with the shitty fsr which genuinely looks so terrible it doesn't look like it has upscaled the image
@@GameslordXYthere is no reason to get a 7900 XT over a 4070 ti super
Having to use dlss to play new games at 120+ fps is what made me skip the 40 series. The 4070 ti super is way too expensive to need dlss day one. And the 4080 super is $1,200 for only 5-15 fps as well.
I can't bring myself to spend 900-1,300 after tax to use dlss for 120fps. I'll just run medium/ high settings on my 3060 ti for 60-80fps and dlss whenever it's needed.
Well no need to have 120 fps in single player games 70 is very smooth its very zéro différence.
The only moment Will be in compétitive game but with a 4070 ti super you can play on native in compétitive game and Will more than 120 fps
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I never liked Ventus Cards, I used to own a 3080 msi ventus 3x and temp is always 82 degrees on load. I switched it to ROG Strix 4070 t.i super and my temp is below 60 degree on load always
Better perf then?
It can run at 4K using DLSS in most games.
Not needed dlss
Twin fan 290w card. Hilarious
It's almost too powerful for 1440p.
No such thing
@@cmoneythemanyou can run in 4k with this gpu
@@victorito07 I know.......
Ventus, two fan model, it's not even... dude it's garbage.
same performance so wrong troll
Wbat is a the Best mark so for a 4070 ti super
@@victorito07 Asus ROG Strix is the best one.
The 4090 is too weak for 1440p gaming! Go play Vladik Brutal at max settings. You'll see that even at 1440p, you get less than 60fps. At 4k, I get 16fps, and at 4k DLSS Quality, I get 26fps. Thankfully, the game has phenomenal graphics settings and can scale extremely well to all sorts of gpus. The game is also AMAZING!!!
So because 1 or 3 terribly optimised games that don't perform amazing even 4090 is too weak for 1440p?
What then?
720p with DLSS Ultra Performance?🤣
Can you modify settings?
Clouds,very distant shadows and textures... .
Would you really notice huge, if any difference between 1440P MAX and Very High?
Same with 4K
@@GameslordXYthats a troll
@@cmoneythemanfor what saying 4090 is to weak for 1440p games 😂😂😂
A 4090 is made for 4k si for 1440p is very smoothy
@@victorito07 Weak means a monster 4090 wouldn't be able to run 1440 great. 1440 has been mastered since like the 3080, which means almost every non-demanding/modded heavy/optimized great game runs as if they were being played on a 1080p screen using native high settings, so yeah, that's a troll.
@@cmoneytheman yeah i know that .read my comment Again
A 4090 is made for 4k is a beast for élite rich Guy. So at 1440p it Will a big big monster
And at 1080 no need to use a 4090
So yeah i know its a troll buddy
Ryzen 4070 destroys thus card in the benchmarks
Ryzen what ?
@@Anto-xh5vn ryzen 4070, the best and cheapest gpu in the world
@@IPutFishInAWashingMachine I want the EVGA Ryzen 4070
its so stupid how you pay 900$ and you can't even get a top of the line experience....bullshit....even a 4080 cant do 60fps+ on allan wake with pure rasterization. i just can't justify paying for a 3000$ compuiter just for gaming and still not get the full experience without worrying about struggling
A 300 pc can do fine for your daily life, you're speding for the gaming. It's like buying a console, there'a no difference: everybody has a PC, but if you want to play you need to spend
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