Could Josuke Survive Part 3?
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Imo there's no way Polnareff doesnt insult josuke's hair during the battle, making it a even more extreme W for josuke.
Polnareff of all people…
@@Stryfe52 tube
@@Stryfe52 lmao fr
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Then just as Josuke starts raging Avdol profiles him to the rest of the crusaders. I can even imagine the dialog.
Imagine dio insults josukes hair and then stops time but he’s so angry he simply ignores it 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 fr. Wait. Imagine if josukes rage surpasses GER
Hair raged Josuke could beat MIH
@@billytodd8988 I would pay top dollar to see that lmao
@@billytodd8988 “The World! Stop Ti- wait why’s he still moving-“
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“WHAT THE-“
*_”[DOOOR-ARARARARARARARARA, DORA!]!”_*
“So it’s the same type of stand as Crazy Diamond”
9:08 I always thought that Josuke having his stand from a young age had to play into him knowing he's capable of pulling out these disgusting feats. If Josuke had gotten his stand not much earlier than the start of part 4 then I doubt he would have risked punching a hole through his own mother so casually.
His mastery of his abilities in CDDH proves he's had his stand for quite some time.
Josuke’s timeline for possessing his stand goes back farther in the currently ongoing Crazy Diamonds Demonic Heartbreak manga, he does in fact have more practical experience than shown in Part 4.
agreed, he definitely had been in a more dangerous situation before events in part 4 started
But on the other hand how much can a kid version of crazy diamond do? Probably like first aid healing level and prob the punching power of an adult
I doubt it being a kid version would weaken the restoration ability
He stops at the High Priestess and chooses to hang out with it because it's right.
High Priestess: You can't break these teeth they are as hard as diamond and Diamond is Unbreakable.
Josuke: Yeah you're right Diamond is Unbreakable.
Both laugh.
NGL, this is very in character for both Josuke and kind of just how Part 4 rolls and I love it. Josuke pretty much did nothing but make friends in Part 4. Them bonding over a joke after he fixes her face? Absolutely.
Josuke then proceeds to punch the crap out of the teeth
@@sxlproductions LOL
Is this a reference to Stardust Crusaders but Really Really Fast because that's amazing!
@@angelsartandgaming Yes.
It’s so hilarious to me that Koichi completely STOMPS N’Doul and Geb. He could use Act 2 to create an overload of sounds and literally just walk up to N’Doul without him realizing. Actually a joke fight for Koichi
Doesn't NDoul use vibrations though ?
@@mekacrab sound is vibration though, and even so he could just have Echoes write Vibrate and all of a sudden N'Doul is getting very harsh vibes coming from all around
Doesn't even need act 2. Could just have Act 1 blast fuckin Vengabus everywhere, and N'Doul's still fucked bc the sounds are an act 1 thing.
@@mekacrab do you know what sound is?
The youtuber classicmanD got asked a similar hypothetical in a yt short and pretty much had the same conclusion but it was Dio’s henchman vs Bruno’s team 😂😂
Essentially he was like a lot of part 3’s battles are set on really specific setup that involve the villains having an insane amount of intel and luck to plan in advance for these hyperspecific users and situations
And since jojo gets more complex antagonists post part 3-
It pretty much means MOST stand users have comically easy counters to Dio’s henchman now, some of which involve not even using their stands at all
Fuck Koichi, even at 1% brainpower, what do you think okuyasu is doing the second he sees N’Doul’s Stand? 💀
These discussions are properly making me realize how cool Josuke's restoration powers are, because DiU really only scratched the surface (hah) of how much he could likely do with terrain manipulation. Dude is basically an earthbender to an almost goofy degree
Agreed bro
earthbender who makes people his earth.
Well in all fairness, he’s an everything bender to a goofy extent. He can (when hair anger boosted) reshape the facial structure of someone to make them look completely different. He mainly uses his ability to revert things back to previous states but he can also change the structures of basically everything that isn’t himself.
For what it’s worth, the fan game 7th Stand User has a mode where you play as Josuke going through these events. There are differences of course, being an RPG and focusing more on “These are things Josuke can do that can affect not just the encounter, but the world and the travel itself.” For example; Manish Boy was only a threat because of the crashed plane. Josuke can fix the plane to keep it in the air.
There's also a manga that has Josuke face some part 3 stand users
@@ImmaLittlePip ...
Ahhhhh...right...
_...Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak..._
I've always wanted to see different crews be placed into other parts and see how they would've handled it.
The big ones for me that I've been thinking about are: Could the Bruno Bunch pull off the Stardust Crusade? And the reverse Could the Stardust Crusaders overthrow Passione like the Bruno Bunch? Big Rule: GER is only available against DIO. Other Rules: Same stand users faced in the same order. Big Maybe Rule: Star Platinum can only use Time Stop against Diavolo (This rule is a maybe because it imo makes the difference between success and failure)
@@mcslayer9796 Part 5 vs Diavolo would be weird without the Requiem arrow, and that does feel kind of… cheap to give both teams there win conditions just because of the final boss.
Bruno’s group figured out KC with a bit of help, so I feel like they could get TW down too. They’re losing quite a few, though.
I get that Diavolo without hax is a stupidly unfair fight, but we’ve never really seen him fight stands equal to his(Cuz he’s a big coward). Kakyoin and Polnareff figured out both abilities as well, so it’s not impossible. The biggest issue is Diavolo becoming completely intangible during TE - because of course he does. One good hit would still end it, though, and Diavolo was never a brawler anyways(Coward).
@@mcslayer9796 THIS, Kaleb IA do a video on this
@@mcslayer9796 Part 5 would win on both scenario tbh, the lack of utility among the Crusaders is gonna be their downfall, throughout the journey its gonna be clear that Jotaro is the main threat among the crusaders, even in the generous assumption that they survive Notorious BIG n Green Day, Diavolo is the type of guy to donut the crusaders one at a time starting with his biggest threat, n even that is assuming he himself gonna show up, without Moody Blues exposing his face he can just keep sending assassins, on the contrary for part 5 gang, like for starter in the story of part 3, there is no Trish to protect n instead you got Fugo, lets put it this way, Vanilla Ice n DIO is a huge threat but they're both melee fighter, even if they killed him the virus would've been enough opening for the gang to finish them off(Avdol actually dealt some dmg to Vanilla Ice so its not like space erasure is instant death) 😂
@@Stryfe52 also going to add that Diavolo gets the stuffing beat out of him by Bucciarati even with KC until he time skips.
Imagine josuke bringing avdol out of cream 💀
I would love this but....if it's like the hand he can't do that😢
@@TbA500N Advol could return out of Creams mouth unlike the hand.
But is this possible, even the user doesn't know were the things Cream devore go.
@@Lucky-Nick123 well, yeah
It was said it brings them to another dimension, maybe it won't work
He could be like yoink
he would lose to DIO, but he would be the team medic and possibly save kakyoin if he was fast enough, and (maybe) iggy if he was in the battle against ice
Yeah, I feel like Dio would one shot him just like Kakyoin
@@dejakiller69 NOT IF HE ONE SHOTS FIRST!
@@RetroAlex125 that's impossible like this video is highballing Josuke + sucking him off giving him all the benefits he can get and they say that if he wins its very close but realistically even resolve + angere amped Josuke isn't even equal to star Platinum as there are multiple statements of Star Platinum being the strongest stand both in part 4 and 6 so its after Josuke reaches his full potential like maybe we can say amped Josuke is equal to the world just because the world is a little bit weaker than Star Platinum but its extream highball its no use DIO can just stop time and one shot him and he will Josuke is a Joestar and DIO will finish him off quickly
@@Bartolomel._. 🤓
@@Bartolomel._. well, DIO, is someone confident who thinks he is superior to others, Josuke is the type of person who makes plans in the middle of battle, maybe if he got the chance to hit him full skull like he did with Kira in the end of part 4, maybe he could mamke him weak and give jotaro the opportunity to beat him.
During the discussion of the Geb fight around 42:12, Koichi was brought up as maybe having the range with Echoes and I think he takes it low diff. N'Doul is blind and relies on sound to hear the location of his opponents. Koichi could just use Act 1 to make enough sound to drown out any of his footsteps, even better if Act 1 makes it to N'Doul and slaps him directly, effectively deafening him.
I dont think theyre talking about the part 4 team, it just joskue
@@lucaszhao8899 They know, it was just mentioned in the video and OP expanded on it.
Alternatively, he could make multiple footstep sound effects around him and confuse him on what direction hes coming from.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT, koichi and josuke just kinda run, while echos throws footstep sounds on the ground and once the gaps closed echos beats him
It'll be funny to substitute the Morioh Crew in completely. JoJo switch, Kakyoin and Koichi, Polnaref and Okoyasu, Iggy and Mikitaka. Polnaref loses The Hand's hand by slapping Cream into a paradox, while also using it's Slapping Teleporting to close the distance to N'Doul and throws Mikitaka past him as a diversion. Mikitaka can also shapeshift to beat Lovers by fighting them tiny style, and cheat against both D'Arby brothers. Koichi can turn the guys rubber against magnetism, and his body won't be affected by Set,
For the Seth fight, I could see Alesi trying to taunt Josuke saying something about him no longer having his "ridiculous haircut" and child Josuke just blitz's him.
Well Josuke actually had his stand as a kid so that fight would be easier unless he gets de-aged past i think he eas 4 years old?
@@MagillanicaLouM 6 years old
Funny as this would be, Polnareff is shown to lose a lot of his memories when he becomes a kid. If Josuke was aged to before the haircut he wouldn't understand the insult.
@@mouthwide0pen but alessi would have to rewind him to before 6 years old then, otherwise he'd have to deal with a potential pissed of josuke with a child crazy diamond, who, while likely weaker than full grown CD, is probably still stronger than alessi, especially when angry, and even just one injury means it could warp alessi.
Also, despite polnareff losing his memories, he still remembered that he was searching for jotaro, albeit not knowing his name, for something, meaning josuke, despite not understanding the insult, could still get the rage boost.
@@projekttaku1 (well he wouldnt make that specific insult if he was rewound to pre hair)
good point about getting pissed and not knowing why tho
Justice should actually be an incredibly easy fight for Josuke. He just has to keep his guard up and hit each of the possessed zombies once. He heals the holes Enya uses to get into their bodies to possess them and cuts off Enya’s control. Now Enya is helpless, and Josuke can beat face.
He cant heal the holes because there is nothing to heal it with
@@brandonpinapineapple2852 Why would that be a problem? The holes Justice uses are existing wounds that Enya expands with her Stand. Closing those wounds would be a trivial task for Josuke. He can’t bring the dead back to life, of course, but he can at least repair their bodies to break Enya’s control.
@@brokenursa9986 not really 'repair' but instead 'restore' them to a state before they were broken
I just think there were too many "zombies" and Josuke would inevitably get hurt, probably by the baby zombie that bit Jotaro. He can beat the zombies away all he wants like Jotaro did, but similarly to Jotaro I don't think he would anticipate the baby zombie and he would probably end up in a similar situation imo
also justice was the same thing as water neckles but its water
DIO: "Wow, your stand looks a lot like mine"
Josuke: "So it's the same type of stand as Crazy Diamond"
PART 3 END
Crazy diamondo Za warudo!
Josuke would not kill Dio he would turn him into a book or rock etc and throw that into the ocean.
@TheDaxAzira fish friends! 🐟
Book Dio, Anubis and 20th century boy chilling at the bottom of the river together
dio turns into the light novel "over heaven".
Josuke unironically has no chance against DIO, think about josukes encounter with jotaro but if he could stop time for 3 times longer and had full murder intent, he would play josuke being a jojo and all but the fact that he can stop time in between punches means josuke cannpt land a hit on him.
But, what if DIO insulted Josukes hair?
@@binglebop5877 josuke goes "thats the same type of stand as crazy diamond" stops time then beats the absolute shit out of him
@binglebop5877 He is so angry it breaks time itself and we get a crazy barrage of punches
@@davidc. He breaks the laws of time itself and ignores DIO's time stop and ends up angrily stomping to DIO mid time stop which leads to DIO having PTSD flashbacks to Jonathan
Josuke could survive his way to the Dio fight but the only way he'd survive the Dio fight is to not face him directly
Right he’d have to somehow make sure the whole squad survived till then and he constantly heals them. It would be like the end of part 6 and like hayato showed no matter how destroyed their bodies are in time stop if he’s quick enough he can save them all
If Josuke used his restoration powers on Jonathan's body, would Johnathan's head fly in and knock of Dio's or vice versa?
@@rutgerhauser2377 that is an odd question to which I'm not sure I know how to formulate an answer
@@rutgerhauser2377this would be so fucking funny to watch though
@@rutgerhauser2377😂😂😂😂
That Swagkage bit damn near got me 💀💀
Ong
Yes yes yes
lmao I got fucking smacked by that while doing something serious irl lmao
Time stamp?
0:16
Let's not undersell cream as it has been before, he doesn't need to be in the stand to erase things. it's a strategy he uses to be untouchable. Cream can void ball without vanilla ice being inside his mouth, meaning he can be accurate if he wants. He hard stomps Josuke
Okay, but counterpoint: if he's outside the Stand, Josuke can just clock him in the skull a couple times, and leave him too disoriented to use the void ball. He virtually *has* to be inside the ball to avoid the risk of Josuke hitting him with something using some trick or other or just throwing furniture. As for inside the void ball, we'd be looking at the question of "can Josuke move erratically enough for Cream to miss", which is a solid maybe considering how much crud is available in that room for him to move around in. The real question is "does he survive the initial strike to have the opportunity to do start doing evasion until Vanilla Ice comes out to check?" Which is basically a luck check, in all honesty, as to whether he notices something being off. If he passes the luck check I could see Josuke incapacitating him somehow, maybe knocking him through a wall, and given enough beating him, he'd eventually end up accidentally either in a 2v1 against him and DIO (a virtually guaranteed L) or hitting through an outer wall, into potential sunlight, at which stage Ice could turn to dust. Average results for this fight, Ice wins, but Araki written fight, Josuke likely takes it.
@@theendersmirk5851 or josuke gets erased before he gets a chance to even move. You are literally arguing for plot armour, which does make sense, but it’s still kinda weird
@@GhettoPeach I mean, yes. I'm simply noting the opportunity for something to happen, vs the assumption everyone gives of "even if Josuke noticed him he'd still lose." Legit the only reason Vanilla Ice was able to take them all was he started out with a sneak attack, and Avdol *still* somehow noticed him. I feel like calling Josuke perceptive enough to be relevant to an Avdol perception feat could be a fair read, if not a guaranteed one, so it'd be a question of "was he close enough to notice, or is he in the position of Polnareff, who would've died without supports?" Because after the sneak attack, he stands a chance. It'd be a long fight, but he could definitely delay long enough to get in a hit. The questionable detail is "does he get hit with the sneak attack, and if not, does he start breaking walls going outwards or inwards?"
That...that's just unfair at that rate.
*HES A VAMPIRE,HE CAN HEAL,WHY DIDNT HE USE THAT MORE?!*
@@bolmobelo It was day out and his stands power is to indiscriminately punch holes in his surroundings.
The thing about Younger D’Arby is that he would ask Josuke if he is cheating through restoration and his soul would be forced to respond and that would be a FORCED loss for Josuke in that situation.
No, since he’d still have to catch the cheating
He literally knew Jotaro was cheating but was going insane because he couldnt figure out how exactly. Not only that, but there werent any rules about cheating. So D'Arby would have to both find a way how Josuke cheats and outcheat him.
One thing to consider with the gauntlet, Josuke could take care of the flesh buds in each of the enemies. This would grant him a similar or the same party as Jotaro, plus he could also save their lives mid-combat. Thus allowing the party to be more extreme and risky. Almost denying DIO's damage if Josuke reacts fast enough to each death.
His party would only be Kakyoin and Polnareff then.
@@mekacrab Even then it is quite a good average team, Kakyoin with Range, Polnareff with Speed and Josuke with pure power
@@DocumentarianWeady they said each of the enemies but I think they forgot that only Kakyoin and Polnareff had fleshbuds
I think he could befriend Hol Horse, Araki was going to have him join the Crusaders after Avdol's "death" so it is possible
52:38 Honestly, I see Josuke biting his lip here and getting bodied by D'arby casually.
Realistically, if we’re comparing Josuke to Jotaro this much, he should be able to stand jump to close the gap between himself and N’doul, or, like Ermes does with Kiss, he can use rock chunks to propel himself to a spot where he can find N’doul
Yeah but it would more difficult since he can't he Iggy as a glider to avoid detection.
@@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10 break a rock in half, throw it, and restore it to fly off.
@@Phantom-kc9ly there is that or he could potentially find creative way to use the sand to either confuse N'doul with his location or just use the sand for transportation.
@@Phantom-kc9ly but does he control in which direction things restore? because the piece could just restore back to where he broke it off from.
@@nhaprophet pretty sure he can
One interesting thing to keep in mind is the expression "anger makes you stupid", because when you are angry the brain downshifts to a lower IQ. Josuke might be really smart in battle, but the way he gets offended if someone talks shit about his hair is a double edged sword. Yes, it increases his offensive potential, but it also reduces his IQ, and thus his ability to make the best decisions in a certain situation. His opponents can use this against him, provoking him in order to make him fall for something he would not fall for otherwise.
Rohan tried that so Josuke saw his drawing and we all know how that ended
@@infinite1.0 because he was literally blind
I feel like against the genie Josuke would wish to meet the guy he thinks saved his life as a kid at 38:24
Kaleb just doesn’t want to get sued by Deep Purple and their record labels so he said “Highway Go-Go”.
Should Steely Dan use one of the other crusaders as a hostage basically like he does in the show, he WOULD make fun of Josuke's hair but if Josuke goes rage mode the Lovers is going to kill said hostage so Josuke would have to CONTROL his rage and suppress his temper which would make it much more interesting from a writing perspective cause no matter how strong Josuke is, he would never get one of his friends hurt. If the hostage is close enough he might be able to kill Dan insanely fast and heal the hostage before the Lovers can completely kill them. If the hostage is no where near them, then he has to rely on the others to take care of the Lovers before he can destroy Dan but can Josuke keep it together long enough to do that?
Dio: THE WORLD! Now stop tim.... How are you still moving?!?
Josuke: What did you say about my hair?!?!
This whole entire video “Well he’s got restoration” 😂
Josuke doesn’t have to deal with armor-off SC because he could just use restoration to force it back on, and potentially make it come back warped which would hinder chariot’s movements even further. If he reveals that ability too soon, I’d imagine Polnaref is smart enough to not try to use armor off.
One of the things Contributing to Josuke's creativity with Crazy Diamond's ability is his experience with his stand, even lowballing it he'd have likely had Crazy Diamond for years before the start of part 4, unlike Jotaro who had only just learned that his superpower wasn't him being possessed by an evil spirit in part 3.
If you do end up giving Josuke a partner during the Geb fight since Jotaro had one, Koichi would unironically be a great pick! Act 1 can make as many sound effects as he wants, or at least we never see a limit like we do with Act 2. He could create distractions in the sand, footstep noises even, to distract N'Doul from him and Josuke approaching.
Hell, if you wanna get wacky, Japanese has onomatopoeia for the sound of silence. He could MAYBE attach one to each of Josuke's shoes.
It’s kinda hilarious how much better Act 2 is compared to 3.
I actually think Josuke does quite well against Vanilla Ice. The biggest weakness that was exploited before was that Vanilla Ice could not see the target he was fighting and would have to periodically reveal his head to try and look around. What Josuke could do is a repeat of his final fight with Kira in that he can attach some blood (or really any substance) to Vanilla Ice's face when he tries to look for him. From there, he can have objects with his blood on it follow after where Vanilla Ice is (like his seeking glass missiles) to not only track where Vanilla Ice is as at all times but to also automatically attack him when he reappears
But when he’s in another dimension… where does it go?
if the lovers stand went into someone to take hostage, couldnt he just do an angelo and bash the person's head open but fast enough to capture the stand inside and heal the person?
I feel like fist based impromptu brain surgery is far harder to accomplish than the chestpunch he did to his mom.
0:02 bro really said higashikata
I think Josuke has a slim chance of beating Geb. If he makes a rock with the sand, breaks it, and throws it upwards, he could MAYBE restore it and fly upwards, where he’d see Geb. Then rinse and repeat until he reaches him
Nice to know someone is thinking like me. I was thinking he could throw part of the vehicle they were in and with restoration pull it across safely like the highway baby scene. Either way I think restoration easily wins that.
I was thinking of some highway gogo tactics but this is better
See what I'm thinking is that if he sees Geb coming, he could throw a bunch of shards of a canteen (nobodys stupid enough to go to the desert without one) at Geb pre-emptively and then heal when its inside. That wouldn't make sound till its too late.
Josuke can fix the Speedwagon Foundation Helicopter and that may give him a better chance against N'doul. Also Darby would just be beaten instantly because Josuke doesn't have a reason to not kill him. Darby would need to have a hostage of some kind.
Same goes for Jotaro and the rest of crusaders? They didn't kill him because he had Polnareff.
How about Dios sons VS part 5? Giorno, Ungalo, Rikiel, and Donatello, all through the power of gravity all end up together and manage to unlock their stands. I feel like this would be a test of not just getting through Part 5 but a test of how well they would cooperate together.
Sounds like a lot to discuss in a single vid. Would make a fire fanfic
There's a chance Ungalo could solo (if he was smart) since he could possibly bring some op character like Superman and let him do all the job
@@markiller8879 Think about this though: Ungalo is a hedonistic drug addict. And what was Giornos main mission in part 5 again?
@@daltonbecker4494 omg i didn't think about it
@@daltonbecker4494 you're essentialy asking to rewrite the entire part. Ungalo and Donatello alone have such wide abilities, you can make up just about anything for them.
We gotta get stuff like how would “Bruno’s Gang.” Do in Part 3, and like “How would the DIU gang do in Part 5” stuff like swapping gangs would be cool!
53:00 I have a feeling D'arby would be able to call out Josuke on his cheats tbh
This needs to be series with you guys
Just wanted to suggest a theory for beating Geb: assuming Josuke is like the crusaders and finds out about N'Doul's echolocation, he could use the sand to create a sandstorm of rocks the size and weight of his feet in order to confuse N'Doul long enough to find him
That’s a dope idea actually
My biggest wonder was what if crazy diamond tried fixing Avduls arms. Would they dissappear or would his body reappear or would it not do anything because of how it was described against something like the hand
Considering he did bring back Hayato from complete annihilation, he shouod be able to bring Avdol back
@@TPaether according to Josuke he can't bring back things that the hand erases, but I genuinely didn't understand how he revived hayato in the anime. The only potential explanation is that he got reverted before the bomb blew up
@@ArkhamMaster. The anime shows a few innacuracies in animation, in the manga, hayato is only partially blown up, josuke reacts extremely fast and restores him through his still-formed arm.
@@nogamer3033 Even in the anime it's not so inaccurate. There are still scraps of Hayato's body left, which he can restore. He wasn't completely erased yet.
@@ArkhamMaster. Its explained pretty decently as being about wether or not the soul left the body. If anything the only inaccuracy that causes is that prior in part 3, josephs revived after his soul clearly left.
If Josuke can have Koichi during the Geb fight, they win easily. Koichi can just use Act 2 to create vibration sound effects on the ground, messing up the user's (I forget his name) senses, so the actual stand wouldn't know where to attack because he can't pinpoint their locations like before.
Honestly, I like this video! Feels oddly relaxing to just listen to. I hope you guys do more stuff like this in the future
If Polnareff can survive part 3, then so can Josuke
Not only would he survive, if he was in the crew we all would have gone home kakyoin, avdol, and iggy.
Depends on if he was with Joseph and kakyoin at the time they fought DIO. If not, kakyoin still would have died. Same for Iggy. I dont think he would be able to heal avdol because cream literally erased his body from existence.
What i learned from this video is everyone is playing street fighter meanwhile josuke is playing Fortnite
I think we’re discounting Josuke’s ability to literally turn people into a ROCK. All he has to do is land a hit on a stand user’s physical body and he can neutralize them as a threat, like how Angelo was powerless after he was turnt into a rock.
Anyone who played the 7th Stand User would know that Josuke can survive Part 3.
SPOILER ALERT FOR JOSUKE'S CAMPAIGN
Even though it wasn't really Josuke as it was his DISC used, his adventure proves that he can theoretically survive it.
Isn't that a fan game though?
@@natexeon9957 yes, but a GOOD fan game
YOOOO IS THAT MEEEEE??????
Probably
So cool
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Bro i just love your content. It somehow helps me concentrate so when i study i just look at/listen to one of your vids
lmaoooo no way the swagkage jojo crossover memes go crazy METAs. Both of ya'll are my go to jojotubers, so this is a goddamn noice collab to see happen
55:00 i like how they immediately thought of 'restoring the ice' as if Josuke couldnt just block it
i would LOVE to see this with endgame Jolyne. since she's a master strategist, and doesn't have the physical power of Star Platinum unlike Crazy Diamond, it'd be cool to see the strategy-based discussion.
What about Jolyne in part 5
@@maniacgreen8609 i hate part 5 so i would never suggest it lol
@@maniacgreen8609Don't worry, that's a great idea. Part 5 is one of the best parts so that's not a bad suggestion, anyone who hates a part usually didn't understand the part or try to cause all parts are good. I wonder how the fight between her, and Bruno would go since they got similar stands.
Whenever Power Scalers say something is faster than light, my eyes completely glaze over, you can’t use physics to calculate the force of something that moves faster than light because nothing can do that in physics. There are other ways to try to measure and compare the power of fictional characters with supernatural abilities, but why is it that every time I watch a power scaling video they default to “faster than light” within the first few minutes? Honestly if you stretched the types of calculations power scalers use to their limits you can probably get any fictional character to be faster than light.
i can actually see a way for josuke to win that honestly sounds very in line with araki.
it was just a thought but he can use his restoration to either attack with unmissable projectiles, or even better, completely negate armor off. both of these scenarios involving use of the blown off armor pieces. would be clever and gets rid of the speed difference
I think for the fights that had multiple members of the crusaders taking part in it would only be fair to give the same advantage to Josuke. Him having back up for the both Vanilla Ice as well as for Dio would make a big difference.
That opening scene where he said he was Swagkage got me. It was funny because in my head, I for some reason thought he had said SethTheProgrammer and I was like “lol he said that other powerscaling guy” and then I hit rewind and it said Swag and I was so confused.
Funny intro bit, compounded by my misunderstanding. Excellent start to the video.
Nah next it's gonna be six that gets mentioned
This video is awesomeee,METAs and Kaleb,really great jojo personalities togheter,awesome
Josuke is great
I actually really enjoyed the long form video on this.
Hopefully there's more to come 😄
You gotta consider that Avdol left his hands behind. So technically, Josuke could bring Avdol back and he would have 2 other people fighting Cream with him. He'd be able to heal Avdol and Iggy, while cream would need to try to aim his stand to attack Josuke first. It's more likely that everyone survives Vanilla Ice if Josuke was there.
Nah you can't heal shit that's completely erased from reality
Josuke, "Wait, they're the same type of stand!" Uses time stop.
josuke in the world fight: "so its the same type of stand as crazy diamond"
i just wanted to say how the fluency of your guys delivery is really inspiring. swagkage sounds crazy great as well
"Diamonds are unbreakable" is the perfect title for a JoJo saga and also sounds like a hip hop album and a wrestling finisher
Thank you metas I love the swag reference 😂. Been watching him for years.
42:22 act 2 can hit em with a “whoosh” and launch him at geb. Heck, if you can convince okuyasu, he’ll just swipe the air all the way to him. Rohan can launch too, he just has to write it. Rohan can also write “josuke can sense the current enemy’s location”. I’d argue that with a partner from part 4, josuke can do pretty good
There are two theories as to why Jotaros ability is weaker in later parts
1. He doesn't use time stop much
2. The trauma from part 3 made his soul weaker, directly affecting Star Platinum
I personally think it's a little bit of both
I think it’s probably just cause he’s out of practice. He also probably needed to be toned down a bit in strength because he’s at the least in top 10 strongest characters in jojo, possibly top 5. Makes the plot easier to write with him weaker.
@Kekyoin three of his friends died what u on about
by the time p4 happens he doesnt even know whether or not polnareff is alive as after polnareffs italy mission he couldnt contact jotaro
@Kekyoin that unlike you, the deaths of Jotaro's friends are impactful and relevant, you incompetent youtube
@Kekyoin ironically, you sound like a clown though. Making fun of someone because he understand how to be empathetic.
44:00. Wanted to throw my 2 cents in for the Geb fight. It's still gonna be a hard fight regardless, but I thought of two ways to lower the difficulty. If he uses his reconstruction ability, maybe he could make a Pillar to stand on as you suggested. But as for the range, as stupid as it sounds, just make a bigger Pillar and knock it over in the general direction. Even if it misses, it should disrupt the field a bit. If that's too much and we decide to bring the part 4 gang into it, one word: Okyasu. Mf kept up with R.H.C.P on a motorcycle and stayed in the air the entire time spamming his "teleport" move. Just bring Josuke with him
Bro why do I imagine Josuke and Polnareff roasting the shit out of each others haircut
I have an idea how josuke could win against cream. Instead of getting his foot, leg and fingers mangled like pollnareff vanilla ice takes his hair. Yep, takes the part pointing forward off (for example vanilla ice comes from below but josuke dodges back, though a split second too late as his hair gets ZA HANDO'd. That rage would be enough to follow cream into the vanilla ice dimension to slap the shit out of him
I think Josuke's hair getting insulted raised a solid letter grade to his practical strength, this is due to a real life phenomenon observed throughout history in types such as viking berserkers. The berserker would dope up on shrooms and would be so blinded by rage and the drug that they just wouldn't be able to hold back or feel pain. But obviously it lowers a solid letter grade to his intelligence. If his hair gets insulted and he needs to be smart, hes gonna have a hard time winning, which is exactly why he aces part 3, not a lot of the stand battles required a smart fight. Also, josuke is not gonna wanna get his hair wet because of the product in it.
Putting a wall between Josuke and Anubis seems like the exact opposite of what you want to do.
lmao this is true, the dudes literally forgot Anubis has intangibility, thats why he managed to kill a dude hiding behind a cow without even injuring the animal at all due to intangibility, or the time anubis used intangibility to phase through the pillar and almost killed Polnareff.
My question is, how does josuke make a wall, he can repare something and/or break something down to its basic components, but, from what i remember, he cant just make something from the things around him
@@default9314 he can, he did it in that one feet stand fight
@@burning_mat5307 thats not what happened. The wall was broken before hand. Dont know if it was CD or it was just broken, but there was a wall their at one point
@@default9314 No he literraly made a wall that was never there.
It's so nice to see both of my favorite JJBA youtubers.
Lol the tower of grey fight would be "I'm not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me"
42:20 Koichi could in theory alert Josuke of his location then put "Zoom" on the ground and Josuke can use it to go a lot faster and get close to Geb
I also wanna say this, if you give him Rohan, Rohan could write "I always know where my current enemy is" then could make Josuke fly away or could give Josuke a speed boost.
Okuyasu also has Za Hando to yoink him over to him.
I adore how Collab videos show how people are
Like how Meta is really good at explaining himself pretty clearly
And Kaleb is good at getting his point across in a down to earth fashion
(Though we won't talk about the usage of English localized names-)
josukes general iq has gotta be insane. being able to reshape the objects OR return them to exactly how they were gives him a massive advantage because of its unpredictability.
I've been waiting for a JoJo TH-camr to post an hour long video, and of course my favorite is the one to do it!
Everyone in Part 4: Josuke literally is blind from rage
“Oh yeah if Steely Dan makes fun of his hair he just sees the Lovers because he’s super perceptive”
Bro what?
Josuke would probably win but he'd probably end up murdering a couple of people atleast (if Steely Dan doesn't go directly for him)
@@snake909 i agree with that, but Josuke or Crazy Diamond being as perceptive as Jotaro is pretty unfounded, and an Enraged Josuke also contradicts the Rohan fight.
That’s my main issue.
@@greyfang8694 yeah crazy diamond doesn't show anything like that. Josuke just didn't really apply his stand in the ways that Jotaro did
Josuke dealing with Cream would be an insane level of the stray cat bubble fight. Like Josuke could probably catch Cream off guard when he comes out to see or he might grab a piece of Creams clothes/hair and restore Cream out of Vanilla ice… maybe…
The moment when cream doesnt come out like with polnareff he loses though. The best he could do is stall by running through the ground with his high ap and restore.
@@sharkguy2340 True, but remember that Polnareff got himself into that situation cause he doesn’t have the mobility or an ability like restoration. I could see Josuke going high by restoring the ceiling or jumping up using his stands legs or something. Cream can’t see at all and he’s kinda cocky so I could see Josuke playing this out.
Damn they really stopped recommending me your banger content. But I'm glad your still out there fam. Can't wait to watch this one
Josuke loses against Tower of gray because dude won't know how to fly a plane. He wins the fight and then dies in a plane crash
If you wanna do that plot armor stuff
For geb, josuke is prob gonna say some stuff like "molecule of sand travel thousands of miles from the wind" and he sticks his hand up and gets a grain of sand and restores it and he just goes flying towards ndoul or something idk
I’d love a series from this
I love how he literally says "yes official info says josuke is stronger in strength but I say no..."
Kaleb video on my birthday? Truly blessed
i don't think it counts but okuyasu could use his teleport to get close to N'Doul or teleport then bring josuke close to him. Since okuyasu can swipe fast enough he doesn't even touch the ground between teleports, another swipe to bring josuke with him would still probably not leave him vulnerable for enough time so Geb could catch up.
"He's stand ability is lying" is a all time quote 🤣
The ending is so funny to me xD
They seem like really good buddies :D
I think Okuyasu could defeat N-Doul, with a very similar technique he pulled on Red hot Chilli Pepper by using Za Hando to erase space to get to him, this might be a stretch but I think Koichi could give Vanilla a run for his money if he uses Act 1 to produce sounds all around the area to throw off Vanilla Ice, and once Vanilla reveals himself, he could use Act 3 Freeze to hold him down until the sun comes and gets him (I don't know, that's the best thing I could think of).
The Swagkage joke from METAs got an immediate like from me. Hell yeah
That intro was just perfect lol
Yoooooo I love both you guys I’m so glad y’all colabed
josuke: "oh so you can stop time huh, well when i punched you i activated my revert abylity on your blood befoure you stopped time and used it to stab you and nock you out of your stopped time, but by trying this, could i also try to move in stopped time aswell nwo that i know that i can effect stuff, CRAZY DAIMOND ZA WARUDO"
With geb, I think it’s more than fair for josuke to get koichi, and koichi could use sound manipulation to distract geb, or even just make the sand silent. Echoes hard counters blind people.
I’m proud, I got the Swagkage joke.
Great video! I'd love to see possibly see could Jonathan survive Part 2?
Lmaooo the swagkage bit actually got me for a second
I understood the swagkage reference