Abandoned History: The Last Roman Rump State the Kingdom of Soissons
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- Syagrius, Aegidius, and the Kingdom of Soissons
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Intro: Hey everyone, thanks for checking out my TH-cam Video! This is my "Abandoned History" series, where I cover historical events that get forgotten by pop culture and history classes.
Description: The Kingdom of Soissons or the Domain of Syagrius was the last relatively undisputed rump state of the Western Roman Empire. This isolated Roman enclave existed in Northern Gaul, modern-day France, until 486. This is 10 years after the collapse of the Western Roman Empire with the deposition of Romulus Augustulus in 476 and 6 years after the fall of Julius Nepos' Dalmatian Realm. What is the story of this often over looked state?
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Me and all my homies hate Ricimer
LOL Samme that majorian murder did not pass the vibe check
Oh man I love your vids on the Roman rump states! Please do Nepos next. Oh and I’ve always been fascinated as to how the Armorica/Brittany region seemed to have been left unbothered for periods, as well as the Basques.
Thanks for the comment Neil! I am elated that u enjoyed! I have been working on putting together a video on Nepos’ Dalmatian realm but sources are hard to come by. It is my mission to get it done nonetheless! I will definitely be making videos coving Armorica and the Basque country following the collapse of Rome! In many ways they were Roman rumps to an extent themselves.
Nice to see a new channel covering these more unknown nation states that you don't see too many channels covering in detail. I've been following history channels for a long time and have seen many of them grow to 1M+ subscribers, your content is just as good as any of them and is now being picked up by the youtube algorithm, so keep up the videos dude you'll get there in no time! If you are looking for ideas, can you cover the Bosporan Kingdom?
Thanks so much for the kind words PT, so encouraging!! Due to popular demand I will be covering the Bosporan Kingdom on the 27th!!
@@abandonedhistoryUS LETS GOOO
Do the Bosporan Kingom next!!
Yes! I will most likely be covering the Cimmerian-Bosporus next!
Never heard of it, I'll look it up, thanks for mentioning it
Nice little account you have right here. Keep it up
Amazing video!! I love how you introduced new graphics and added more about what modern historians are debating about the Kingdom of Soissons. Maybe Aegidius' cowardice of not pursuing conquest for Soission poisoned him...
Thanks man! Addressing the current debate is important to understanding what might have happened!
Have you considered any of the sub-roman kingdoms, like Elmet? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmet
Thank you for this George! Yes I was considering doing a video on Rheged at some point but recently have been leaning towards doing a 15 - 20 min long video on sub Roman British generally. But I love that you suggested Elmet, I’ll definitely cover it in some aspect!
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The Ancient Romans: *take out pitchforks* “I thought we were past this.”
Love the video! Such an interesting time period and interesting realm, too bad people say it’s not real! I don’t believe it. I think it was real!
What do you think would change with a longer term existence of the domain of Soissons?
Nice surprise to see a video about my town that everyone here believe is a meaningless boring city with no story, keep up the good work man.
I’m so glad you enjoyed! Sad to hear people think Soissons has no story! It has a rich history!
Your boring town might have saved Christian France, or even Christendom lol. The stability and centralization of the rump state at Soissons is an often mentioned factor in the later French victory over the Moors at Poitiers, which may have prevented a recurrence of the Morrish conquest of Spain.
I love it when I find a new budding channel that actually happens to provide good quality material. Glad to say I'm of the first thousand subs. 😁
By the way, I found you by looking up "kingdom of soissons" in the youtube search bar. You were the first link.
Thank you for that info Hugo and I am so glad you enjoyed
Just stumbled across this channel and sure glad I did! These videos are very well done and cover topics not often covered
Thanks rkurtz!
Thank you for an informative video on an interesting topic.
Much appreciated!!!
I like the historiography at the end. Great stuff, keep it up, keep being you!
Much appreciated!!! Awesome words of encouragement
Can you Do a Video about the langobards/lombards?
For sure! I will let you know when I am planning on releasing it!
Nice video. Surprised to see there are just 1k subs and 2.4k views.
Thank you Pottenger !
If the Western Roman Empire did not abandon Britain, Syagrius and his followers will have a place to escape after the Franks seized their domain. And thus, the Roman Empire can, in a sense, continued to exist in England and Wales. Of course, the regalian needed to be send to Constantinople to confirm the Eastern Roman Emperor that the remnant of the Western Roman Empire still existed. And will Germany rose as the Holy Roman Empire in this scenario or not is not known to me. But personally, I find that unlikely. And because of than Hungary will remained in the hands of the Avars instead.
Very interesting 👍
@@abandonedhistoryUS Thank you! I remembered I made a comment on someone's channel in the more detail about it. If yo uwanted to hear it, I can show it to you.
@@lerneanlion I would love to, If you could leave it in a reply to this comment that would be ideal!
@@abandonedhistoryUS The fifth timeline: The Western Roman Empire did not abandon Britain and its rump state founded by Syagrius relocated to the British Isles.
I came up with this timeline because the Industrial Revolution happened in Britain and Britain has tons of coal mines. With the steam engine developed from the invention of Heron of Alexandria and a lot of coals, steam-powered warships and steam-powered armored trains become possible. With such vehicles, this Roman rump state can expanded out, conquering all of British Isles, defeat the Frankish Kingdom and finally retake the Italian peninsula. Sure, this will take a lot of time. But eventually, they will be able to do it. So in this timeline, there are most likely just Germanic city-states because there are no Carolingian Empire and Holy Roman Empire of Germany while the Muslim conquests of the Maghreb and Hispania remained largely the same because the Western Romans perceived them as no threats as long as they have the buffer zones against them such as the Eastern Roman Empire and the Iberian kingdoms formed out from the fall of the Kingdom of the Visigoths. Of course, some skirmishes can happened at Sicily if the island is divided between the Western Romans and the Muslim Arabs. But I think that's just it for the Western Romans. Also, I do not think there will be Kingdom of Hungary in this timeline because nothing happened to the Avars since the Western Romans were purely focused on the reconquest of Gaul and the Italian peninsula and they were happy to let the Germanic city-states to serve as the buffer zones between themselves and the nomads. And centuries later, the Vikings arrived on the scene and their quests for loots and plunders will be met with the opposition that are the steam-powered Western Roman Navy equipped with the flamethrowing technology and the Greek fire adopted from the ones in Constantinople. So the Vikings can only waited until the time is right when another Roman Civil War broke out and decided to play their part in it. So the Danelaw is not entirely out of possibility. As for the crusades, I doubted it will happened because the Eastern Roman Emperor can simply dispatched envoys to the Western Roman Emperor with a plea for help in the quest to defend the borders from the invading Seljuk Turks and also might be able to use this as an opportunity to retake Egypt and Syria back under the Romans' rule if the religious zeal got involved because if anything, they know they needed to control Egypt and Syria if they wanted to secure Jeursalem for themselves. Some centuries and some more civil wars later, the Mongols arrived. And this is where everything is possible. The Mongols are equipped with plenty of weapons that used gunpowder and mangonel that allowed them to easily besiege castles and stone fortresses while the Romans possessed the steam-powered navy. On land, the Mongols have the advantage. But by the sea, the Romans dominated the battlefields. And if the Romans adopted gunpowder and started manufacturing some sort of proto-cannonballs, then the only chance the Mongols have is to wait for another Roman Civil War to come in order to be able to exploit it. After this, I have no idea what to predict anymore except that the Reconquista will be happening quitely under the noses of the Romans. And when it is finished, it will be purely depending on who Christopher Columbus will seek sponsorship from between the recently reunified Hispania and the Roman Senate to fund his expedition to find the other route to Asia. As for why Columbus still wanted to find the other route to Asia. The answer is simple, the Roman-Persian Wars that kept happening made the Silk Road unsafe sometimes. So I doubted the Eastern Roman-Safavid War will be any different from the other previous Roman-Persian Wars. And to make the matter worse, the Western Romans might be engaging in the campaign to reclaim the rest of North Africa from Morocco and the other local Muslim powers, which can also be called with such names as the Barbary Allied Forces and Maghreb Allied Forces by the Romans and the Muslims respectively, as well. So yeah, a new trade route might be needed since wars are bad for businesses as we all know.
It is called the fifth timeline because there were four timelines already from that video I watched from Maiorianus. The video's name is How would the world looked like if Rome never fell?
Great video! Have you ever considered doing one about Ricimer? I think he’s a fascinating figure who never gets discussed (unless by angry Majorian enthusiasts).
I will definitely look into it! Ricimer would deserve a stand alone video.
Huck Ricimer
I spit on Ricimer's grave
Can you do the Roman-Byzantine exclave of the Principality of Theodosia and the Empire of Trebizond, Despotates of Epirus and Morea?
Yes at some point in the future will definitely do Theodoros (Gothia of the Bosporus)
“Why are you interested in history?”
Well if Hollywood portrayed history accurately you would understand.
Became the Frankish Kingdom of Neustria (possibly meaning "New Western Province" or "New Province").
They forgot about Pavel. Ruler of the Soissons region in 464-469
I assume your referring to “Paul”. I chose not to include him for a number of reasons.
First the only knowledge of him comes from a very brief mention by Gregory of Tours. It doesn’t title him as a king but does suggest he is a leader of a kind.
There are also suspicions that Gregory of Tours took from the work of an earlier, likely propagandist chronicle, so the veracity is up in the air.
Finally, there is an ongoing historical debate to his role and existence with historians being split, some think he was a leader in the same vein of Aegidius others think we was more of a lieutenant or far more local leader. I am squarely of that second camp, I think Paul was likely an influential warlord but he was not a “King of Soissons” in the same sense Syagrius was.
That’s just my opinion and explanation of why I didn’t include, you are free to disagree but thanks for taking the time to comment.
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Is this an AI voiced video?
Nope it’s my actual voice LOL
"they would've been thoroughly romanized.." well that's questionable as trier in the 400s was actually known for still speaking gallic
Respectfully, I feel like that’s kind of a cherry pick as Trier was near the border and in Gallia Belgica which was generally considered one of the less romanized areas of Gaul.