just tested it today, as i did a bios update which was resetting my bios settings. Hence I went into SC with e-cores enabled and still had mini lags. Went into bios, disabled all ecores and everything was fine again This problem is not fixed, from my point of view
I got a 13700kf and use it daily. It would crash randomly after long sessions or high workload when I built it a few months ago but after updating Bios I haven't had a single issue.
13th gen here still have eCore issues in the PU, seems better of late. Had my 13900K intel for a while now, very very happy with it. Hope it doesn't fail but it's done me proud so far.
14900KS with 4090 @ 4K with DLSS on everything maxed out and I rarely drop below 60fps now even on Lorville and Orison. I game on an 80" OLED which caps at 60fps so I'm very happy. I believe the DLSS addition allowed me to achieve this.
I'll be glad when CIG start to used more cores to split the load. I was hoping the new 9950x3d would have both ccd's with X3d but from what they say it will just be like the 7950x3d shame. but my 7950x3d did ok until it died after 11months . but when I first used it all cores was used on planets / cities and then switched to just the x3d in space but then after an update multi-cores just stopped. thats why when the 7950xed died I went for the 7800x3d. I do like the idea of more core spread the load
14th gen here. Never had ecore problem, but did have constant crashing during high load until the last few weeks, after a couple bios pushes from Dell.
Last year I purchased an i9-14900K pre-built gaming rig. I'm sorry I ever trusted Intel but glad I got a 2-year warranty on the system. I've RMA'd it twice thanks to faulty CPU's. On the second return I demanded a completely new system and the company complied. They pre-configured the BIOS and so far, it's holding up. The only change I made was to the fan curve. I made it very aggressive to keep this thing from overheating. That said, I'm getting excellent performance in SC. I'm terrified of overclocking and will never do that with this system but honestly, it doesn't need it. I'm just hoping that it doesn't damage itself before the upcoming microcode fix in mid-August. I have been a loyal Intel customer for over 40 years, but after this experience I will probably never buy another Intel chip again.
@@M1kel-Ferg That's exactly what I'm worried about, this is my 3rd CPU, and 2nd completely new system. The difference this time is that my package temps average 78-82C, before it was hitting 100C+. If this one dies I will probably just get a 12th gen chip.
I suffered random crashing with the MSI MB, is yours with MSI? (BIOS) I located the issue with "Long/Short Duration Limit", and set both to (253) to prevent blowing up my CPU, it was auto I believe. Only Long duration should be set to (Auto). I also restricted "Turbo Boost Limit" to (307) which is a very low setting I can live with, no flickering or speed issues, and to save my CPU for long term use. Temp protection also set to (99) for long term protection. I'm not sure if any other MB' do this, but the default on MSI z690 can blow up the i9-14900k in a flash. There are no warnings about these settings anywhere, you just have to know what to look for when diagnosing issues, I build my own computers. Stay away from MSI MB', their other components are good.
@@zolmazzoboto6085 yes, I have a z790 Tomahawk Wifi MB. my long/short duration was set to auto when I first got the machine, and I was tried MSI overclocking settings which never changed that. By the time I learned about all the problems it was too late, I'd already permanently damaged my 1st CPU. I'm not a BIOS expert and I did my best to configure the settings right and updated the BIOS (with the current version at the time), but it was not enough to save my 2nd CPU. My 3rd CPU came with BIOS settings from the company that built the system, and so far those settings are keeping the temps under control, I think the biggest change they made was downclocking the CPU. I don't mind because it doesn't seem to make any difference in Star Citizen, I have a 4090 RTX (which I am very happy with) and my FPS can peak to 102-110. I'd say my average is about 86 FPS. If you want to know if your rig can handle SC, just visit one of the new distribution centers and get into FPS combat.
@@merclord Auto setting is where the instant heat flash crash comes from. It must be changed, MSI knows about this issue and refuses to make the default proper to protect the CPU. 😡😠 EDIT:, I have the RTX-3080 and it runs great, afterburner rec OC on that, no issues with the card.
I run a I9-14900KF and besides desktop crashes and low performance issues which is typical of Star Citizen. It does run smooth in certain areas. If I go to any highly populated area like cities, distribution centers or ghost hollow. Forget it. 20 FPS and server slow downs. I have to use Gsync, vertical sync and limit frame rates on the card. To smooth out frame times. Overall 3.23 has been very rough.
I am using i9 14900KF. No issues so far. But I never overclock, use an AIO and regularly clean/replace thermal paste. I also use a gen 5 nvme m.2 ssd and 128 gb ddr5 ram sticks that are the highest my mobo offers without overclock. No lags whatsoever. Could be because i opted for the most synchronization across my parts. I have fps drop in just one place though, that god damn Yela Arc corp mining outpost.
I have it and it doesn’t work for Sc. The game is locked. You can’t even change the priority of the game using process lasso. For Sc you need to disable the ecores in the bios or via command prompt in the launcher file. For the priority you need to change it in the registry.
@@TomPoe-w8bunfortunately sc is very dependent on server performance and it doesn’t mean that it is always your pc. If you try to play arena commander offline you’ll see that the fps is much higher and stable. But my pc is a 14900k, nvme, 8200 ram overcloked, 4090, playing 4K in lorville with high settings is gonna be around 40 and 50 as well depending on the server performance. For me sc is not about how much fps do you have but how fluid the game is. If it doesn’t have stuttering I’m happy.
I have a 13900KS that I use everyday without stability issues. However since the first day I had it, I did enable power limits on day one. Imo the stability issues are partially due to Intel and partially due to motherboard vendors enabling unlimited power limits by default on their motherboard products.
13th and 14th gen intel chips are dying left right and center .. E cores is the least of the problems if you have and intel chip. Go gamers Nexus for more info on the story.. If you have 13th or 14th intel chiip i suggest you update the microcode to help it before it murders its self.
More like E-cores ARE the problem. Too much cores, and they all eat about the same amount of power (despite E-cores being clocked lower), with same power delivery as older processors with much less core. Guess the issue.
I'm currently running a Intel i9-13900k(16 CPUs)-3.0ghz and I have had the E-cores disabled in bios since I got the processor about 7 months ago, when i had stuttering issues. I tried a week or so ago enabled the E-cores to see if they would now work. No luck got stuttering so I disabled the E-cores again and SC runs smooth as butter like before. Enabling E-cores does not work for my current system at this time.
My next PC has to wait for when QPUs (Quantum Processing Units) are viable for consumers. By that time Star Citizen might be released with recommended specs.
It may be a placebo effect, but for people with custom builds using any 12th to 14th gen intel, there's a BIOS setting called "Intel Dynamic Tuning" that is usually disabled by default. Enabling it, then installing your manufacturer's Intel DTT driver (usually listed under Chipset) seems to fix the stutter issue for me and has done so for quite a while now. EDIT: Also, the Intel APO program is now compatible with 12th and 13th gen chips, but the software needs to have specific game profiles from Intel to work.
Had issues with my 12700k. switched to Vulkan and it just felt better. Also friends on AMD have to use Process Lasso to mess around with their chips on DX11, but on Vulkan it just works
@@jjsemperfi its not really a case of temperature. its essentially a case of the cpu will slowly kill itself if it runs too fast or even at its normally rated speed. it will eventually start to lose performance and stability.
E-core was an industry problem not just SC. GamerNexus found that with them enabled on some chips games like CS2 could see up to -50% fps. Intel's e-cores and widows scheduling was the problem. These last few years have been a giant turd for Intel imo.
The high end intel chips are not failing, they are degrading. meaning they don't operate at the advertised levels of performance. The few 13th gen chips which suffered from oxidation is a separate issue and very limited in scope which intel has already identified and spoken about. who would have thought that using a single rail to power 24 CPU cores was a bad idea.
E-cores good for 3.23, amd ryzen 7950x3d, i stream to kick, yt and twitch while running x2 obs a chat bot, my browser with 20+ pages and discord while using 2 monitors one is 60" wide-screen 1080p and the other is 49" 1440p super ultra wide so 1440p dual screen, Sc is running great when the server fps is not bad, running all 3d cores w/e-cores, obs non-3d cores, everything else non-3d e-cores
"I'm sure this will not be a problem in the NEXT generation of stuff coming out from [Intel]." That's a lot of confidence considering this problem spans 2 generations already and Intel hasn't exactly be on top of it. 🤷🏿♂️
In my bios on the Gigibyte ddr5 board it says gaming mode that turns off ecores. That tells me that e cores arent made for gamming., And mother board manufacturers communication with intel to produce the board must have told them the chip runs better in games with ecores off. ecores must have been created for a different purpose other than gaming.,
They were...just no one made proper tools to tell OS what to do with them, so they are treated just like regular cores. You can use task manager to assign right cores manually, but its easier to just disable E-cores.
For people lamenting bad performances, I'd recommend a quick check for thermal throttling issues: Bios coders at MB manufacturers have been doing pretty stupid things with the 7xx series I can say that, switching from a dead Z690 MB to a B760, the "out of box" settings for the new MB were pure insanity, with the CPU thermal throttling like crazy, where before it was perfectly happy.
@@walawala-fo7ds Only with 7900x3d and new 8000`s C-cores. An ancient, and unsolved problem of mixing two different cores and not specifying what is doing what yourself.
Intel Optane remains the only true game-changer for SC that Intel have made. To their credit, it’s a fantastic game changer even vs other high speed SSDs, but of course it’s also out of production lol.
@@piedpiper1172 I mean them too. These can be used as cashe for hard drives, massively increasing read speed. Or just extremely fast OS disk, very useful either way.
@@SapereAude1490 MASSIVE improvement in speed during real-world use. (aka random read/write) Complex structure of modern ssd`s massively slows them down during random read/writes, and unique structure of optane memory eliminates that issue entirely. In short - difference between not very fast memory with very low CL vs very fast memory with obscenely high CL.
No its not fixed.. On my gaming laptop with a 13th gen was just about getting 30 fps.. used lasso to disable e cores and now I am hitting 40 to 50fps... Had to do this today.. laptop fully updated.
@@ghilliezeire9585 Its an Acer Nitro pretty new not super high end just use it for travelling. CPU: I5 13420H RAM: 16GB DDR5 GPU: Nvidia 4060 8gb Windows 11on an NVME drive display is 1080p. With e Cores on i am lucky to get 30 fps.. with them off its 40 to 50..
@@ghilliezeire9585 Sorry thought I replied to this yesterday. The laptop is just a second computer I use for gaming when travelling. Its pretty new tho an Acer Nitro V CPU: I5 13420H RAM: 16GB DDR5 GPU: NVIDIA 4060 8GB Windows 11 on NVME drive and 1080p resolution.
@@EricXVIII’ve kinda fallen out of the up to date news on CPUs. Will the 9800x3d (I’m guessing) be on the same socket as the 7000’s? I have a 5800x3D in my system, but wanna upgrade so I can give my partner the 5800x3d over her now pretty dated 3600. Put off a new mb as long as I can lol
@@piedpiper1172 Yes, same AM5. These things can be pricy however, and 7800x3d will still be good for many more years, so look if you can get it cheap, or get 9800 if their price isnt that different.
I wouldn't bend over backwards trying to get this game to run well. At the end of the day is Star Citizen is a very poorly optimized game. It is frustrating to have a mid to high end PC and not be able to play a game with smooth framerates but that's on CIG.
i7 14700k with rtx 4080 and 64gb of ram, game runs amazingly well for me. I have my 14700k at default PL settings (253w) and undervolted with a Lite load 5 (MSI), all cores are doing their thing. I upgraded from a 13600k, I noticed a difference in Star Citizen on this upgrade believe it or not, especially when entering a city from atmosphere. Lowest framerate I've seen is mid 40's.
Intel CPUs not worth running. And is better for one big reason is that Intel chips are failing. Had issues with warranty with my pre built system. In the end of 3 months of fighting got a Amd system because of the issues with Intel.
Can you please start the video with "wtf is ecores again?" because im too lazy to google it and it seems somehow important, but maybe not for my AMD setup?
just tested it today, as i did a bios update which was resetting my bios settings. Hence I went into SC with e-cores enabled and still had mini lags.
Went into bios, disabled all ecores and everything was fine again
This problem is not fixed, from my point of view
Maybe a 3.24 fix?
Windows 11
No need to deactivate e-cores in bios - just start your SC launcher with "/High /affinity FFFF"
I'm not a tech buff but I've noticed a huge bump in framerate lately.
thats because of dlss and their tweaks to volumetric clouds and other renders
I've been running vulkan instead of DX11 and that has boosted performance too, but it seems not for all. Eventually it will be vulkan only.
Oh did you hear about AMD’s new version of Fluid Motion Frames (2) looking forward to see if that will have any effect on SC in the near future
I got a 13700kf and use it daily. It would crash randomly after long sessions or high workload when I built it a few months ago but after updating Bios I haven't had a single issue.
13th gen here still have eCore issues in the PU, seems better of late. Had my 13900K intel for a while now, very very happy with it. Hope it doesn't fail but it's done me proud so far.
14900KS with 4090 @ 4K with DLSS on everything maxed out and I rarely drop below 60fps now even on Lorville and Orison. I game on an 80" OLED which caps at 60fps so I'm very happy. I believe the DLSS addition allowed me to achieve this.
I'll be glad when CIG start to used more cores to split the load. I was hoping the new 9950x3d would have both ccd's with X3d but from what they say it will just be like the 7950x3d shame. but my 7950x3d did ok until it died after 11months . but when I first used it all cores was used on planets / cities and then switched to just the x3d in space but then after an update multi-cores just stopped. thats why when the 7950xed died I went for the 7800x3d. I do like the idea of more core spread the load
14th gen here. Never had ecore problem, but did have constant crashing during high load until the last few weeks, after a couple bios pushes from Dell.
Last year I purchased an i9-14900K pre-built gaming rig. I'm sorry I ever trusted Intel but glad I got a 2-year warranty on the system. I've RMA'd it twice thanks to faulty CPU's. On the second return I demanded a completely new system and the company complied. They pre-configured the BIOS and so far, it's holding up. The only change I made was to the fan curve. I made it very aggressive to keep this thing from overheating. That said, I'm getting excellent performance in SC. I'm terrified of overclocking and will never do that with this system but honestly, it doesn't need it. I'm just hoping that it doesn't damage itself before the upcoming microcode fix in mid-August.
I have been a loyal Intel customer for over 40 years, but after this experience I will probably never buy another Intel chip again.
its a matter of time it will give out, im on my 3rd cpu.
@@M1kel-Ferg That's exactly what I'm worried about, this is my 3rd CPU, and 2nd completely new system. The difference this time is that my package temps average 78-82C, before it was hitting 100C+. If this one dies I will probably just get a 12th gen chip.
I suffered random crashing with the MSI MB, is yours with MSI? (BIOS) I located the issue with "Long/Short Duration Limit", and set both to (253) to prevent blowing up my CPU, it was auto I believe. Only Long duration should be set to (Auto). I also restricted "Turbo Boost Limit" to (307) which is a very low setting I can live with, no flickering or speed issues, and to save my CPU for long term use. Temp protection also set to (99) for long term protection. I'm not sure if any other MB' do this, but the default on MSI z690 can blow up the i9-14900k in a flash.
There are no warnings about these settings anywhere, you just have to know what to look for when diagnosing issues, I build my own computers. Stay away from MSI MB', their other components are good.
@@zolmazzoboto6085 yes, I have a z790 Tomahawk Wifi MB. my long/short duration was set to auto when I first got the machine, and I was tried MSI overclocking settings which never changed that. By the time I learned about all the problems it was too late, I'd already permanently damaged my 1st CPU. I'm not a BIOS expert and I did my best to configure the settings right and updated the BIOS (with the current version at the time), but it was not enough to save my 2nd CPU. My 3rd CPU came with BIOS settings from the company that built the system, and so far those settings are keeping the temps under control, I think the biggest change they made was downclocking the CPU. I don't mind because it doesn't seem to make any difference in Star Citizen, I have a 4090 RTX (which I am very happy with) and my FPS can peak to 102-110. I'd say my average is about 86 FPS. If you want to know if your rig can handle SC, just visit one of the new distribution centers and get into FPS combat.
@@merclord Auto setting is where the instant heat flash crash comes from. It must be changed, MSI knows about this issue and refuses to make the default proper to protect the CPU. 😡😠
EDIT:, I have the RTX-3080 and it runs great, afterburner rec OC on that, no issues with the card.
I run a I9-14900KF and besides desktop crashes and low performance issues which is typical of Star Citizen. It does run smooth in certain areas. If I go to any highly populated area like cities, distribution centers or ghost hollow. Forget it. 20 FPS and server slow downs.
I have to use Gsync, vertical sync and limit frame rates on the card. To smooth out frame times.
Overall 3.23 has been very rough.
I am using i9 14900KF. No issues so far. But I never overclock, use an AIO and regularly clean/replace thermal paste. I also use a gen 5 nvme m.2 ssd and 128 gb ddr5 ram sticks that are the highest my mobo offers without overclock. No lags whatsoever. Could be because i opted for the most synchronization across my parts. I have fps drop in just one place though, that god damn Yela Arc corp mining outpost.
I’ll give it a go. My e cores have been off since buying the 12th gen in 2021 :D
"CIG TXA" option gives massive boosts, but only in certain areas (not cities?). That tech is promising!
could you plz try "process lasso" to bind windows and all background processes to e-cores and reserve p-cores for SC?
I have it and it doesn’t work for Sc. The game is locked. You can’t even change the priority of the game using process lasso. For Sc you need to disable the ecores in the bios or via command prompt in the launcher file. For the priority you need to change it in the registry.
@@JaderAntunes i did this and it made my performance worse i9 14900kf 4080 super
@@TomPoe-w8bthey finally fixed the ecore stuttering problem a couple months ago. Now you need to do nothing. 🙌🏻
@@JaderAntunes well somethings still up because my game still runs like shit for my setup40-50 in towns is trash and something is wrong
@@TomPoe-w8bunfortunately sc is very dependent on server performance and it doesn’t mean that it is always your pc. If you try to play arena commander offline you’ll see that the fps is much higher and stable. But my pc is a 14900k, nvme, 8200 ram overcloked, 4090, playing 4K in lorville with high settings is gonna be around 40 and 50 as well depending on the server performance. For me sc is not about how much fps do you have but how fluid the game is. If it doesn’t have stuttering I’m happy.
I have a 13900KS that I use everyday without stability issues. However since the first day I had it, I did enable power limits on day one.
Imo the stability issues are partially due to Intel and partially due to motherboard vendors enabling unlimited power limits by default on their motherboard products.
13th and 14th gen intel chips are dying left right and center .. E cores is the least of the problems if you have and intel chip.
Go gamers Nexus for more info on the story.. If you have 13th or 14th intel chiip i suggest you update the microcode to help it before it murders its self.
More like E-cores ARE the problem. Too much cores, and they all eat about the same amount of power (despite E-cores being clocked lower), with same power delivery as older processors with much less core. Guess the issue.
I'm currently running a Intel i9-13900k(16 CPUs)-3.0ghz and I have had the E-cores disabled in bios since I got the processor about 7 months ago, when i had stuttering issues. I tried a week or so ago enabled the E-cores to see if they would now work. No luck got stuttering so I disabled the E-cores again and SC runs smooth as butter like before. Enabling E-cores does not work for my current system at this time.
My next PC has to wait for when QPUs (Quantum Processing Units) are viable for consumers. By that time Star Citizen might be released with recommended specs.
It may be a placebo effect, but for people with custom builds using any 12th to 14th gen intel, there's a BIOS setting called "Intel Dynamic Tuning" that is usually disabled by default. Enabling it, then installing your manufacturer's Intel DTT driver (usually listed under Chipset) seems to fix the stutter issue for me and has done so for quite a while now.
EDIT: Also, the Intel APO program is now compatible with 12th and 13th gen chips, but the software needs to have specific game profiles from Intel to work.
where can u find the game profile from intel for APO 12th gen?
any updates?
Had issues with my 12700k. switched to Vulkan and it just felt better. Also friends on AMD have to use Process Lasso to mess around with their chips on DX11, but on Vulkan it just works
I’ll have to try this as I still have issues with my 12700k. Turned off e-cores in my bios
so I have to keep e cores off on my i7-12700k still?
I’ve been running an i9-14900k for about 2 months now. No heat issues at all. I play DCS in VR mainly and it doesn’t get above 80°. 🤷♂️
its only 13th gen and newer i believe
@@Sinsanatis Mine is a 14th Gen. Mine runs nice and cool (cooler than my i5-12600K actually).
@@jjsemperfi its not really a case of temperature. its essentially a case of the cpu will slowly kill itself if it runs too fast or even at its normally rated speed. it will eventually start to lose performance and stability.
E-core was an industry problem not just SC. GamerNexus found that with them enabled on some chips games like CS2 could see up to -50% fps. Intel's e-cores and widows scheduling was the problem. These last few years have been a giant turd for Intel imo.
13700k, undervolted, e-cores on. Works as a charm
12600kf, character creation was stuttering so much I had to turn off E cores in BIOS, than the stuttering stopped
The high end intel chips are not failing, they are degrading. meaning they don't operate at the advertised levels of performance. The few 13th gen chips which suffered from oxidation is a separate issue and very limited in scope which intel has already identified and spoken about.
who would have thought that using a single rail to power 24 CPU cores was a bad idea.
When xeon is literally build differently:
Has been working well on my 12th gen, no stuttering
E-cores good for 3.23, amd ryzen 7950x3d, i stream to kick, yt and twitch while running x2 obs a chat bot, my browser with 20+ pages and discord while using 2 monitors one is 60" wide-screen 1080p and the other is 49" 1440p super ultra wide so 1440p dual screen, Sc is running great when the server fps is not bad, running all 3d cores w/e-cores, obs non-3d cores, everything else non-3d e-cores
These are not E-cores. All 7950x3d cores are equal, just not all have access to extra L4 cashe.
"I'm sure this will not be a problem in the NEXT generation of stuff coming out from [Intel]." That's a lot of confidence considering this problem spans 2 generations already and Intel hasn't exactly be on top of it. 🤷🏿♂️
Interesting. Windows 10 also being phased out.
My 13600k has been happy knows on wood
12900k I reduced the watts to 95%
In my bios on the Gigibyte ddr5 board it says gaming mode that turns off ecores. That tells me that e cores arent made for gamming., And mother board manufacturers communication with intel to produce the board must have told them the chip runs better in games with ecores off. ecores must have been created for a different purpose other than gaming.,
They were...just no one made proper tools to tell OS what to do with them, so they are treated just like regular cores. You can use task manager to assign right cores manually, but its easier to just disable E-cores.
I have a 7th gen i7-7700k running a 3070 rtx. My system runs pretty decent . Can check out my streamed videos lately. Which Intel should I upgrade to?
13700K here since April. No problems with anything!
E-cores have been working since 3.23 👍🏽
For people lamenting bad performances, I'd recommend a quick check for thermal throttling issues: Bios coders at MB manufacturers have been doing pretty stupid things with the 7xx series I can say that, switching from a dead Z690 MB to a B760, the "out of box" settings for the new MB were pure insanity, with the CPU thermal throttling like crazy, where before it was perfectly happy.
I have no issues with my CPU at all Oh wait. I use AMD Ryzen 😁
I don't have any issues with gas mileage. I ride a bicycle.
Different problems then as ryzen has issues with the stuttering created by scheduling the wrong chiplet 😂.
@@walawala-fo7ds Only with 7900x3d and new 8000`s C-cores. An ancient, and unsolved problem of mixing two different cores and not specifying what is doing what yourself.
The 7800x3d working great for me!
So i can turn off process lasso now?
Intel Optane remains the only true game-changer for SC that Intel have made.
To their credit, it’s a fantastic game changer even vs other high speed SSDs, but of course it’s also out of production lol.
Sadly. I cant even find it anymore, the tech is fascinating. If i ever stumble into one, i will definitely get it, should do wonders with HDD`s.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Oh, I meant the industry Optane only SSDs, not the hybrids
Would you mind expanding on this a bit more? What would be an advantage of using optane instead of a high end PCIe 5 SSD with a Phison E26 controler?
@@piedpiper1172 I mean them too. These can be used as cashe for hard drives, massively increasing read speed. Or just extremely fast OS disk, very useful either way.
@@SapereAude1490 MASSIVE improvement in speed during real-world use. (aka random read/write) Complex structure of modern ssd`s massively slows them down during random read/writes, and unique structure of optane memory eliminates that issue entirely. In short - difference between not very fast memory with very low CL vs very fast memory with obscenely high CL.
My first i7 13 gen only made it a few months before burning out. Blue screen of death
whats the problem with the 14th gen thing with SC ..since i got a new pc .i cant play for about 10 mins ...plz help me
yeah I think it's best feature of the 3.23
For me it's fix since I have updated my windows to 11
No its not fixed.. On my gaming laptop with a 13th gen was just about getting 30 fps.. used lasso to disable e cores and now I am hitting 40 to 50fps... Had to do this today.. laptop fully updated.
What are your specs ? If you don’t mind me asking
It's the stutters that were the problem. They fixed them finally after 2 years.
@@ghilliezeire9585 Its an Acer Nitro pretty new not super high end just use it for travelling.
CPU: I5 13420H
RAM: 16GB DDR5
GPU: Nvidia 4060 8gb
Windows 11on an NVME drive display is 1080p.
With e Cores on i am lucky to get 30 fps.. with them off its 40 to 50..
@@ghilliezeire9585 Sorry thought I replied to this yesterday.
The laptop is just a second computer I use for gaming when travelling.
Its pretty new tho an Acer Nitro V
CPU: I5 13420H
RAM: 16GB DDR5
GPU: NVIDIA 4060 8GB
Windows 11 on NVME drive and 1080p resolution.
i finally solved teh Ecore issue.... i got rid of intel
I've had to underclock my 13900K to stop constant CTD or bluescreens.
There has always been "luck of the draw" with all CPUs. A rare few that fade out doesn't represent the whole of us who have no issues.
@@zolmazzoboto6085 There are known issues with this particular chipset. This isn't just a reflection of the usual margin for error in QA.
Install Windows 11 with current BIOS updated. Because Windows 10 DOES NOT properly utilize the E-Cores in Star Citizen
I am on win 11. Should I turn them off or on?
Keep them on now. They work well in SC
@@JamieCrew beautiful. Had them off since I built my new pc
@@JamieCrew that being said, I haven’t played in 1.5 months due to .23 and master modes
13900k and 3080ti. No issues at all here
Same processor on a 4080, game works great. Video had me worried tho lol
13900KS, 4090 no issues.
Frames better, servers trash.. great success.
4080 at 1080p sub 60 fps, saying everything is fixed. That's wild.
E-Cores on, but now Intel is broken xD
you just need to use normal processors from AMD and there will be no problems.
So, will intel be better than AMD going forward for SC? What's your guess?
Simple answer no....e cores don't help they just don't diminish the results anymore.
7800X3D is still SC king
Its hard to say. Intels 15th gen is coming soon as well as next gen ryzen. I would wait and see rather than speculate. We dont have to wait long.
@@EricXVIII’ve kinda fallen out of the up to date news on CPUs. Will the 9800x3d (I’m guessing) be on the same socket as the 7000’s?
I have a 5800x3D in my system, but wanna upgrade so I can give my partner the 5800x3d over her now pretty dated 3600.
Put off a new mb as long as I can lol
@@piedpiper1172 Yes, same AM5. These things can be pricy however, and 7800x3d will still be good for many more years, so look if you can get it cheap, or get 9800 if their price isnt that different.
Game is unoptimised trash atm. Wait for vulcan updates before spending money to play a tech demo
I had a 13900k fail on me. no fun
I wouldn't bend over backwards trying to get this game to run well. At the end of the day is Star Citizen is a very poorly optimized game. It is frustrating to have a mid to high end PC and not be able to play a game with smooth framerates but that's on CIG.
My game runs beautifully. The hardware is not the issue, it’s the unbelievably shit servers that affect the experience.
Finally!!!!!!
I've only got a 5700x on a B450 pro. I feel like a gaming tramp compared to you. 😂
Poor Intel. Couldn't be happier with my 7950X3D.
I had 12 fps with 4080 😂 let's not talk about performance just yet
Weird with my AMD 78003dx and a 4080 I get 40 to 60 in cities and 80 to 120 plus in space.
i7 14700k with rtx 4080 and 64gb of ram, game runs amazingly well for me. I have my 14700k at default PL settings (253w) and undervolted with a Lite load 5 (MSI), all cores are doing their thing. I upgraded from a 13600k, I noticed a difference in Star Citizen on this upgrade believe it or not, especially when entering a city from atmosphere. Lowest framerate I've seen is mid 40's.
Intel CPUs not worth running. And is better for one big reason is that Intel chips are failing. Had issues with warranty with my pre built system. In the end of 3 months of fighting got a Amd system because of the issues with Intel.
100% not fixed, stutters like fuck with e cores on, 14700kf
Sorry, not gonna leave my intel super micro x10qbi with 3 cpu's going at 172 logical processors, 18 CORES per cpu. Im running SC faster than any amd.
Can you please start the video with "wtf is ecores again?" because im too lazy to google it and it seems somehow important, but maybe not for my AMD setup?
AMD doesnt have E-cores. Only C-cores, but not on 7000`s, only 8000`s (same core, but less clock and cashe).