Both cameras are really close and because of the points that you mentioned at the end (workflow, price, updates...) the ONE X clearly wins in my eyes. Thanks for that video 👍🏼
Thanks for the video. I used 3 fusions for a job and thought the work flow couldn’t have been easier. Render time for the final output was also fine but that’s cause my computer is decent as you mentioned.
Great comparison Ben. I had the Fusion last year and sent it back because of the workflow alone. Just too complicated for someone who likes to shoot and spend as little time as possible in processing mode. I am also a big believer in the size and tripod mount with the way I use the camera.
I just sold my fusion for the one x for two reasons. Post-processing became too big of a hassle for me. I ended up not carrying my fusion with me that much because it took too long to render footage. Also, I don't think GoPro will be updating the fusion going forward. The word on the street is it is getting the ax so I decided to sell it now before the resale takes a hit.
We have been using GoPro Fusion for a year. We were shooting mostly jet skiing videos until accidently we have lost the camera in the ocean. Fusion despite of its flaws was the best 360 camera for me on the market, even today. Now I have to get a new one, been researching INSTA360 ONE X. Easy workflow is important, but I would rather sacrifice that for the better, sharper video quality. For those who consider buying Fusion, just want to say that you don't have to have an extremely fast PC to make it work. I've been doing all my edits on i7-3770k 16gb RAM, SSD, GTX 680
The one X has the form factor like the Theta and can be carried in a spectacle hard case in your trouser pocket. Safe and handy. I got my ONE X yesterday.
Ben you nailed this one perfectly. I have both cameras and there is so little in the image quality. But the apps are miles apart. I love the OneX app, the way that everything can be done on the phone as well as the additional editing features. The OneX is my goto camera now.
Question?? I am leaning toward a one X, but now the Fusion is magically cheaper. Can Fusion footage be edited with the one X Software? I use it to edit my Samsung 360 video.
The One X looks cool. I have the fusion and love it! I’ve used it to shoot all kinds of theme park rides/ attractions at Disney and Universal Studios posted to my channel. Yes, it takes time to process video but I think the quality/end-result speaks for itself. It’s also handy that it is waterproof without a casing and the 360 audio (when rendered in Premiere correctly) is amazing 🙂.
I wish Insta360 had a case similar to Fusion. The included pouch is too tight and already see some vertical lines over the lens after only a few days of using it.
Interesting.. I haven’t. If it was looser it would fall off more easily, but maybe a zip would have been a good thing. You can always get a third party case if you don’t like it :)
I just returned my GoPro fusion after using it for 10 days. Fusion's color and dynamic range are so good that I wasn't able to return but their fusion studio's performance made me return the device.
Thanks Ben. I have the One and am tempted to upgrade to the one X but think I’ll wait 3-6 more months to see if they get better both with software and firmware.
Loved how you keep switching their position left to right and right to left! Everything was looking good for one X until low light came! Is One X still in beta version and can we expect better low light performance with future updates?
Firstly, love your channel- very informative, objective, and I've learned a lot! Since the OneX has better slo-mo, would you say it is better for action videos as well? I like to record white-water rafting, kayaking, mountain biking, and more so would like to know your thoughts on which camera for activities like that. I've found sometimes when you enter shadows/ shade from trees and a decent velocity, my Gopro Hero 5 takes a while to adjust so some of the video will be really dark. Which of these 360 cameras do you think would handle that situation best?
Thanks David- to be honest I don’t have too much more to add than what I said here.. I don’t do extreme sports myself so my instinct would say the One X because of the workflow although you’ll obviously need an underwater housing if shooting underwater
Really good comparison. I have the X, it’s my first 360 camera and surpassed my expectations. Though still trying to figure best settings and upload options to TH-cam.
Really looking forward to getting my hands on this. I'm hoping it would be a killer POV camera for mountain biking, or a great b-cam for getting interesting shots on and off the bike.
Really nice, but i think you have a lot to improve in your color correction phase. i have a cuestion for you, both cameras deliver stabilized footage right from the camera or you have to use software? Thanks ands greetings from Chile
@how to make a video, @Ben, and 360rumors, you guys are doing a great job to proliferate 360 cams. 360rumors has been very helpful in his comprensive write-ups and reviews as well as what you're doing. Keep the great contents coming. I've think I've narrowed my choices to 1x for small form fator, versatility, and seemily easy app workflow. It doesn't seem as good as Fusion video, especially in low light and protunes mode, but has all the other features Fusion doesn't have. Where I am stuck here is the total cost. Fusion is about $380-$430 while 1x is similar but I would need to add an external audio recorder and maybe dive case, which quickly adds up. I am looking at Zoom h2n (recommended by 360rumors) or h1/h1n or Olympus ls-p4, again for small form factor. Your thoughts on this? I have some questions I would like your advice on: 1) do you think Gopro will stop updating and/or developing further for Fusion? Any news or rumors? I tried reaching out to them but they're being vague, saying it's a great product and I should buy it (expected). But to qualify this, it's just someone in customer support & sales doing their job; 2) what's your confidence on HDR video for 1x (which might put 1x on par with Fusion) getting done as advertised as well as no stitching in premiere pro, & in camera video montage on app; 3) for workflow, do you find yourself using app (looks like 1x has advantage) more or desktop (seems difficult for both cameras but at your experience levels, I presume it's easier and faster to do)? Just want to get a feel for what I'm getting myself into as a beginner, first for personal reasons as an enthusiast and see if it can help me with my professional work (working on brand and design and can understand better how my outsourcing suppliers are using photos & videos to communicate the brand, keeping them checked). Appreciate your feedbacks and keep up the good work!
@@nomad0714 That's very kind of you to say, thank you! :-) I do not have the Fusion so I cannot really compare but I do have the H2N. I definitely recommend it. I use it as a USB microphone, a spatial microphone, and stereo microphone. A multipurpose device for sure!
I was enjoying the look of the fusion. Then when you posted the photo around 4:00 I was conflicted as I liked the overall look of the left photo. The detail in the road and coloring. So I thought well crap. The one x looks better for still photos. Then bamm. You dropped the labels and pulled a fast one. It turned out it was still the fusion I preferred. I always hate when I’m torn between two products and end up buying both. Lol. Though it sounds like workflow is better on the one x. Dang though. Even though the picture seems so much better in the fusion the price difference again leans me to the one x. Wonder which would be more durable for snowboarding? I assume both auto vanish the selfie stick or tripod.
Around 2:12 the colors are truly less saturated but I like the way how shadows look like on the other hand... This way I have the decision whether to make more contrast. And even as you said, the yellows and oranges had more red tone, it's only a second to correct during color grading. So I prefer the Insta look right now, but I can't wait to see my own footages do decide! :) One X is on the way! :)
This is such an underrated channel, Love the Content, I have the Fusion and I’m loving it, mobile overcapture for video is good and I still use it sometimes for Instagram and Facebook, when I post on TH-cam I use the GoPro Priemere Plugins which are good as well, had the Insta for a couple weeks, loved the app, but didn’t like that you had to have a separate waterproof Case for water sports, and the durability is less than the Fusion for me. Can’t wait what’s in store for the Future.
The One x has a lot of great features, I own one right now. I am going to filming weddings in 360 so unfortunately the One X losses here. The color quality is so much better and isn't that what is most important in filming? So for me, I go for Fusion because of the high res and color quality. thanks for your dedication Ben!!!
The One X is a consumer camera. If you want/need color that meets professional requirements you need to get an Insta360 Pro or some other pro-level equipment. I own the One X and I think both it and the Fusion have pretty awful color for professional application. I wouldn't professionally sell it as a service. That said, just like normal GoPro footage - you can get away with inserting it into a more upscale production if you limit its use and use it smartly. I was hoping the Insta360 would be good enough to replace one of my DSLR's for Google Street Tours, but it's not even close in color and resolution.
Can these connect via Bluetooth? I’m thinking of using one of these as a security camera while camping out of my truck. Just so I could quickly turn them on in the middle of the night to see what’s outside in a live view. Also in live view, can you look one direction or the other?Any suggestions? I have a Google pixel 3...
I already own a GoPro hero 8. Would it be best to get the fusion to keep the color scheme and video quality? Fusions are now cheaper then the intsa 360 one x
Ben Thanks! Leaning to the One X. Can u color correct with a mobile workflow?? What Android apps would you reccomend? Thought about also getting a GoPro 7 Black for Water activities. You think I could manage a mobile workflow with that as well? Thanks again!
Ben . . . What software can GoPro Fusion images be edited on now that Fusion Studio is discontinued? I just had it working on an older Mac OS version, but now it won't even open up. Have you heard about this? I know I have to upgrade but I was hoping to get a little more life out of my Fusion. GoPro lets me down again.
A month after finding this channel I brought the One X, Manfrotto Compact and Pixi. Thanks Ben, the workflow sold it for me. After four days use I'm not disappointed in image quality, but do you have any recommendations on a stick-on windscreen solution for audio? I also brought the dive case for active protection and waterproofing and seems to work well with the app having a stitching option for above water use. The only issue is it cannot fully remove the dive case in the nadir. Also the camera works with the battery removed and USB power for those wanting long capture times.
@@BenClaremont something small to stick over the in built mic to cut wind noise. There are stick on dead cats but would intrude into frame. Thought you may have found a discrete foam solution in your research?
Shooting lots of motorsports content I think I'm still hanging with the fusion. Already invested in the mounting systems and not enough benefit to be changing. Now that is until I hear more from you about this Insta360 stitchless workflow in Premier. That sounds like a gamechanger.
Hi i've seen somewhere the workflow is better with the One x, now that i've got the One x i can say yes it's easy and fast on iphone x in my case. But the export is only 1080p. So i've got a question due to my use of The samsung gear vr glasses. i was able to export a 360 video with my mac at 5760 × 2880 resolution, but my samsung phone doesn't accept the codec after a 3 hours conversion, in 4k it works like a charm; any idea abouty the settings to keep that high resolution and watch it with my VR gear ?
Amongst all the 360 cameras, is this the best when it comes to night / very low light 360 pictures and videos? Secondly, is this by default a waterproof camera? Or does it require a housing ?
As someone looking to add 360 to my vlogs, I think the One X is appealing due to price, user friendliness and shorter render times. I love the look of the bullet time feature of the One X too.
Has the Insta 360 improved the contrast of video with firmware updates? Looking at the side by side, it seems that the contrast is way better on the Fusion, but I like the other features of the Insta. With the Fusion coming down in price so much, price is no longer a factor. I don't have the most powerful laptop, a 16GB MacBook Pro (2017). Would that have any issues with rendering and stitching the Fusion footage?
First, GREAT review. Being a guy who owns almost 30 GoPros, but not the Fusion-(just too pricey) this was a great comparison to what will be my next 360 camera. The one thing that bugs me about side by side comparisons is that if I saw either shot just by itself, it would look absolutely great to me. The subtle differences only seem to be significant if you are comparing otherwise I don't think I'd notice an issue if I was just looking at the videos and photos of one camera. I would probably be oohing and ahhing at how beautiful the shots are. Once again, great job.
Reminds me of going to the store to buy a TV. All those screens showing the same program was great but a bit overwhelming for me. I could look at just about any of them on their own and think the picture was great and never worry for the rest of my life.
So your saying because GoPro has parted with kolor, you don’t think GoPro will update their app to support stabilised over capturer touch points like the 1x does? If GoPro had the same easy phone workflow as the 1x I’d much rather the GoPro, but I might get the 1x because of fusions imitations
I can't believe you missed the waterproofing on the gopro. I'm looking for a 360 action camera for drifting and not being afraid of water is a big factor
@@Dimanichtderechte you just added 60€ of cost to the onex, which is currently already 30€ more expensive than the gopro. Plus, having to deal with an add-on
There are always many things missed in a comparison, the more important factor is image quality as so few people shoot near the water. Also easy to look that up 😉
@@BenClaremont hi Ben I really appreciate the reply. Unfortunately it judders on the playback and I've sent a clip to the insta 360 18 this morning. I'm reassured to hear that the judge ring when you're actually doing the smart tracking is normal! Thanks again look forward to your videos each week I'm 57 but I love my smart gadgets.
Very cool. You helped me decide which to get. Since i use primarily a mobile work flow editing on my ipad pro, looks like it’s the insta 360 for me! When did the insta 360 one x come out? Last year? Do you think they will come out with a new version this year? Thanks!
Ben Claremont hey thanks! Hmm. What improvements do you think they will add to the next model? Or what would be on your wishlist? I am gonna nab one now tho. Don’t think I can wait until September. Spring is just about to start, and life is happening now. Too much fun to be had to wait. 👍🏼
Great video Ben 😎 As an owner of the Fusion I’m looking for a 360 camera that offers more, more features, easier editing, better stitching and better mobile/tablet editing. The biggest issue here is low light performance as the UK weather isn’t great for at least 6 months, so is it really that bad in cloudy or indoor lighting? My other use is for in car recording to capture not only the road ahead but the scene inside the vehicle, this is where great dynamic range is essential and also the ability to zoom in to produce a dolly zoom effect. So I’m wondering if you think the OneX would stack up against the fusion in the situations I use it in? Thanks 🙏
Great video! I agree with your outcome and have decided to return my Fusion for the one x. The post processing takes a little to long for the fusion and enjoy the one x mobile app ease of use. I also used the extra money saved to buy a Hero 7.
I know this would not be ideal but with the Insta360 One X, if you do not have access to a smart phone, can you still download your video directly into a computer and use the software to edit from your desktop?
The Fusion is waterproof to some degree too. It's my choice (since I already have one). I'm glad to see it hasn't been crushed yet by the next generation.
One X = better form factor, cost less, footage and photos look amazing. The biggest one for me is the One X for faster render time. I currently have both the Fusion and the older Insta360 One and I always find myself reaching for my Insta360 One. It's just easier to work with. In fact I'm thinking about selling my Fusion and pick up the new One X.
Great comparison Ben, thanks. I just purchased the one x but hating it so far, poor stitch line, won't connect with my android phone, it does connect to my android tablet but the app software isn't compatible so no mobile work flow available. Very disappointing! I wonder if I maybe got a faulty unit?
Hi Joe, firstly you can calibrate stitching in the app, next it might be worth asking in the Facebook group about device compatibility.. it should be compatible with most recent-ish devices
Ben, i have that gear 360 and thinking a lot in buying the insta 360 one x, major because all of you said here.. the only problem is the price. In Brazilian Reais it is even expensive. So, my question is: is it possible to use the insta 360 one x app with the movie files of other cameras, like the 360? And about resolution is it so much better the one x than the gear 360? And that hyperlapse with blur effect, is it possible to do with premiere or with the insta 360 studii? Thank you so much for helping a lot of 360 photographers..
When you reviewed this, did the ONE X have HDR? (I am reading it may have came out after the release via a firmware update?). I'm thinking that may have helped a lot with the colors and washout.
I felt burned by the Nikon Keymission, so took a long pause on 360. Had designs on a Fusion until I began hearing workflow stories. Just unboxed the One X today, and was very impressed immediately. Easy to link and use app, good image quality (although dynamic range iffy). Overcapture/aiming and extracting HD was simple. Took clip to Adobe Rush, and had quite a positive experience in mobile workflow. Using One X on a long pole gave drone-like results. Only negative is waiting for proper Insta accessories including selfie stick and additional batteries.
Hi Ben, Thx for another great video. I’m looking to buy a One X 36O camera for my next trip snowboarding, as well as your eCourse to give me a good head start. Does the course provide any pointers wrt camera setup for shooting in the snow (and particularly low-light snow conditions like japan)? I’d be interested to know how you’d set up a One X for the snow (ie HDR in/off, log node, etc) Thx, Chris
Hi Chris- no snow situations unfortunately.. but if you head to the video course page you can see a trailer up top which shows you exactly what it’s about 👍
Excellent video! I ended up deciding to return my unopened Fusion and got the One X instead. Although the One X app could be improved, as it is right now, it's so much fun to use! It would be great if they brought all of the app's features to the desktop software!
Finally, a great comparison between these two cameras! I have the option to buy an open-box Fusion for almost the same price as the insta360 One X (485 EUR vs 476 EUR). In this case should I go for the Fusion? I have a powerful PC and prefer the audio from the GoPro but I’m afraid that the camera is abandonware and stuff like HDR will never be added... I’m undecided. What do you recommend? Also, can you please make a video tutorial on how to edit a TimeShift like footage in Premiere (adding motion blur and speed ramps)? Thank you! Keep up the good work!
I'd go for the One X I think, based on price and photo capabilities, and HDR. Except low-light situations are a must for me as well, so I can't decide! But I guess in the end I'll be processing via computer, so can take out the noise and enhance things a bit. Probably would go with the One X.
Thank you, after further updates on one x what is the biggest difference now in june 2019? About Log on Insta, Fusion have Protune. That is like log, what did you use?
I was seriously just going to ask this. I have been looking at these 2 cameras since the Insta360 One X was released, and finally, one of them went on sale. Thanks to GoPro for the technology, and thanks to Ben for making this decision a whole lot easier.
Got a Fusion camera earlier this year, it was great! So much fun just using it for casual shoots :) but my laptop did not agree with the Fusion Studio; after doing some things to make it work; unfortunately never did; so I got the hero 7 Black instead! it's funny cause I remember the stabilization and video quality looks so much better with the Fusion; but I'm still happy! Great comparison video Ben, love watching them!
What do you mean by full screen? Do you mean a 360 video? There’s heaps of sample footage on TH-cam already for that- and 360 definitely wouldn’t suit the nature of this comparison especially when talking about design, workflow etc.
I'm new to trying to learn 360 and tiny planet which I fell in love with. My question which may sound stupid, with the 360 cameras do they have to work with your phone or do they work alone. Thank you for your time.
Hi ben, thanks for this great comparaison. I’m thinking to buy a 360 Caméra. But my use is mainlly for Vr video with my Oculus Quest. Wich caméra can you recommand to me ? Thanks in advance
I just don’t understand. It’s really annoying to edit video on a phone. How can you be precise? So I edit on a computer. But I still don’t understand. The One X stitches in Studio Beta and you then export to a compressed mp4 file, losing quality before you’ve even started the edit. Furthermore my Mac handles huge Prores files loads better than huge mp4 files, so am I missing something? Furthermore, I’ve noticed in bright sunlight the stitch line on the One X is clearly visible. Also you mentioned the One X shoots in log mode but the Fusion also has Protune which is the same thing.
I’m not sure I agree that it’s easier to edit on a phone. Tiny screen. Trying to make precise edits with your finger. I don’t like it. Are we agreed that mp4 is a compressed file format? The only current way to edit properly on a computer is to export each clip from the Insta Studio Beta as mp4 and then import in to Premiere or FCPX or whatever. So the footage will already be degraded before you start the edit? Is that how it’s done?
I saw in another more recent review something about the OneX can now send to PC unedited as I understood it and it is much better. Not that I understand this stuff at all! Just trying to decide now if I should get a Fusion for $100 less than the OneX. I probably just want to record grand children and family events and keep them for posterity. I have a lot of VR equipment, GTX 1080, RTX 1060 etc so I think the PC processing wouldn't be as much of a problem. Though, I don't envision wanting to spend a lot of time on this, so OneX would be simpler. Going through a cashback site I can probably get the Fusion for $125 less than Onex. I think I might go that route and at least give it a try until something better comes along or Onex comes down to $300 cost. I like to keep under $300 price because using my Amex card they cover returns for 90 days, up to $300. Also see new Fusion selling on Ebay for $260, so that is another choice. I guess they are coming down in price to what they are worth, considering the issues.
Hello Ben. My videos are nocturnal (ar from show) Which one do you think is better? PS: Insta360 One X HDR Video (firmware 1.17.12.1) has had an update. That's why I have this doubt. Thank you
Excuse. My English is not very good. I like to make show videos. What is the best camera for show videos (Low light video)? PS. Now the Insta360 one records video in hdr. Thank you
One X is my choice
Nice 👍
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Me too
Both cameras are really close and because of the points that you mentioned at the end (workflow, price, updates...) the ONE X clearly wins in my eyes. Thanks for that video 👍🏼
No problem!
@@BenClaremont I am very budget limited, please help me select between go pro hero 6 black & Akaso pro special edition??!😓
one x
Hey nice vid.
Suggestion: keep the same camera on the same side (left or right) throughout the video. Sorta confusing as they flip-flop throughout
Thanks, although I don’t think I did that
Omg
It was confusing though… this comment is underrated
Thanks for the video. I used 3 fusions for a job and thought the work flow couldn’t have been easier. Render time for the final output was also fine but that’s cause my computer is decent as you mentioned.
Nice! I’m sure you got great results
Great comparison Ben. I had the Fusion last year and sent it back because of the workflow alone. Just too complicated for someone who likes to shoot and spend as little time as possible in processing mode. I am also a big believer in the size and tripod mount with the way I use the camera.
Thanks Mike- yes the workflow is such a big factor!
I just sold my fusion for the one x for two reasons. Post-processing became too big of a hassle for me. I ended up not carrying my fusion with me that much because it took too long to render footage. Also, I don't think GoPro will be updating the fusion going forward. The word on the street is it is getting the ax so I decided to sell it now before the resale takes a hit.
Nice 👍
I've heard a fusion 2 is on it's way this year.
We have been using GoPro Fusion for a year. We were shooting mostly jet skiing videos until accidently we have lost the camera in the ocean.
Fusion despite of its flaws was the best 360 camera for me on the market, even today.
Now I have to get a new one, been researching INSTA360 ONE X.
Easy workflow is important, but I would rather sacrifice that for the better, sharper video quality.
For those who consider buying Fusion, just want to say that you don't have to have an extremely fast PC to make it work.
I've been doing all my edits on i7-3770k 16gb RAM, SSD, GTX 680
Nice! Yes I’d say that’s the bare minimum for a decent workflow speed 👍
The one X has the form factor like the Theta and can be carried in a spectacle hard case in your trouser pocket. Safe and handy. I got my ONE X yesterday.
Good to see you here Willy! Yes I think your Theta V has some tough competition 🤣
Would you mind giving us some advise on the accuracy of its color regarding the one X. Would it be quite horrible without processing?
Ben you nailed this one perfectly. I have both cameras and there is so little in the image quality. But the apps are miles apart. I love the OneX app, the way that everything can be done on the phone as well as the additional editing features. The OneX is my goto camera now.
Very true!
Question?? I am leaning toward a one X, but now the Fusion is magically cheaper. Can Fusion footage be edited with the one X Software? I use it to edit my Samsung 360 video.
The One X looks cool. I have the fusion and love it! I’ve used it to shoot all kinds of theme park rides/ attractions at Disney and Universal Studios posted to my channel. Yes, it takes time to process video but I think the quality/end-result speaks for itself. It’s also handy that it is waterproof without a casing and the 360 audio (when rendered in Premiere correctly) is amazing 🙂.
Agreed 👍
Id like to know more about the audio. 360 audio?
I wish Insta360 had a case similar to Fusion. The included pouch is too tight and already see some vertical lines over the lens after only a few days of using it.
Interesting.. I haven’t. If it was looser it would fall off more easily, but maybe a zip would have been a good thing. You can always get a third party case if you don’t like it :)
I have fusion and it is a pain to stich and edit. Stopped using it for this reason. I will definately give 1X a try.
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It's not user friendly?
I made the jump and got the one X, thanks for showing why this camera is the best.
Glad to hear it!
Please tell me which microphone you are using? It is so crisp and clear outside.
See my video ‘how I record clean sound’
3:50 YOU TRICKED ME ... ahaha i was just about to say " well pictures on gopro are better.. and that's insta360 one x, LOL !!!
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I just returned my GoPro fusion after using it for 10 days. Fusion's color and dynamic range are so good that I wasn't able to return but their fusion studio's performance made me return the device.
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Thank you for sharing this video. My choice will be One X. Maybe next time you can make One X in depth video tutorial 😁👍🏼
Thanks! I think over the videos I’ve already made and the ones coming soon, it will cover everything you need to know :)
Can you use only one lens? For photo or slowmo video, i think could be an advantage, less CPU and processor usage
Great comparison Ben. Thank you for that. Mine shipped yesterday. I'm super excited!!
Awesome!
Thanks Ben. I have the One and am tempted to upgrade to the one X but think I’ll wait 3-6 more months to see if they get better both with software and firmware.
Don’t wait too long.. the next One may be out by then haha
Loved how you keep switching their position left to right and right to left! Everything was looking good for one X until low light came! Is One X still in beta version and can we expect better low light performance with future updates?
Yeah there will definitely be improvements to come
@@BenClaremont why I'm getting feeling that GoPro might be preparing for next version of fusion 😅
Firstly, love your channel- very informative, objective, and I've learned a lot! Since the OneX has better slo-mo, would you say it is better for action videos as well? I like to record white-water rafting, kayaking, mountain biking, and more so would like to know your thoughts on which camera for activities like that. I've found sometimes when you enter shadows/ shade from trees and a decent velocity, my Gopro Hero 5 takes a while to adjust so some of the video will be really dark. Which of these 360 cameras do you think would handle that situation best?
Thanks David- to be honest I don’t have too much more to add than what I said here.. I don’t do extreme sports myself so my instinct would say the One X because of the workflow although you’ll obviously need an underwater housing if shooting underwater
Really good comparison.
I have the X, it’s my first 360 camera and surpassed my expectations.
Though still trying to figure best settings and upload options to TH-cam.
Thanks Paul- definitely check out my channel as I have lots of tips about 360 video 👍
Really looking forward to getting my hands on this. I'm hoping it would be a killer POV camera for mountain biking, or a great b-cam for getting interesting shots on and off the bike.
Yeah it will be great for that 👌🏻
You might want to stick with the Fusion based on my stabilization test
Really nice, but i think you have a lot to improve in your color correction phase. i have a cuestion for you, both cameras deliver stabilized footage right from the camera or you have to use software? Thanks ands greetings from Chile
I fixed the colours as much as possible, but any more and other bad stuff starts happening. You stabilize in the app 👍
The amount of cool things you can do with the One X and the app... no brainer :D
True!
@how to make a video, @Ben, and 360rumors, you guys are doing a great job to proliferate 360 cams.
360rumors has been very helpful in his comprensive write-ups and reviews as well as what you're doing. Keep the great contents coming.
I've think I've narrowed my choices to 1x for small form fator, versatility, and seemily easy app workflow. It doesn't seem as good as Fusion video, especially in low light and protunes mode, but has all the other features Fusion doesn't have.
Where I am stuck here is the total cost. Fusion is about $380-$430 while 1x is similar but I would need to add an external audio recorder and maybe dive case, which quickly adds up. I am looking at Zoom h2n (recommended by 360rumors) or h1/h1n or Olympus ls-p4, again for small form factor. Your thoughts on this?
I have some questions I would like your advice on:
1) do you think Gopro will stop updating and/or developing further for Fusion? Any news or rumors? I tried reaching out to them but they're being vague, saying it's a great product and I should buy it (expected). But to qualify this, it's just someone in customer support & sales doing their job;
2) what's your confidence on HDR video for 1x (which might put 1x on par with Fusion) getting done as advertised as well as no stitching in premiere pro, & in camera video montage on app;
3) for workflow, do you find yourself using app (looks like 1x has advantage) more or desktop (seems difficult for both cameras but at your experience levels, I presume it's easier and faster to do)? Just want to get a feel for what I'm getting myself into as a beginner, first for personal reasons as an enthusiast and see if it can help me with my professional work (working on brand and design and can understand better how my outsourcing suppliers are using photos & videos to communicate the brand, keeping them checked).
Appreciate your feedbacks and keep up the good work!
@@nomad0714 That's very kind of you to say, thank you! :-) I do not have the Fusion so I cannot really compare but I do have the H2N. I definitely recommend it. I use it as a USB microphone, a spatial microphone, and stereo microphone. A multipurpose device for sure!
I was enjoying the look of the fusion. Then when you posted the photo around 4:00 I was conflicted as I liked the overall look of the left photo. The detail in the road and coloring. So I thought well crap. The one x looks better for still photos.
Then bamm. You dropped the labels and pulled a fast one. It turned out it was still the fusion I preferred.
I always hate when I’m torn between two products and end up buying both. Lol.
Though it sounds like workflow is better on the one x.
Dang though. Even though the picture seems so much better in the fusion the price difference again leans me to the one x.
Wonder which would be more durable for snowboarding?
I assume both auto vanish the selfie stick or tripod.
Honestly I’d just suggest the One X for workflow alone.. also the price makes it an easier purchase. Check out my reviews of it :)
Hi Mr. Ben... you say the Fusion does not shoot LOG/RAW but it does have Pro tune which gives you better dynamic range? Ne c'est pas?
It does have a (kind of) log option but it’s colour corrected automatically which I believe you can change
another question, in 2019 how big of an improvement have you seen in the xone? is it still comparable to the fusion or which camera has become better
Given that the Fusion's price has dropped considerably, would you recommend it? Most comparisons bring up the price as an issue.
I’d still recommend One X purely for the workflow advantage 👍
Hi ... how câmera is better for virtual tour ? which one do you recommend among all 360 Cameras ?
Excellent review! Made my day when choosing. Thx and keep it up!
Glad to hear it
Around 2:12 the colors are truly less saturated but I like the way how shadows look like on the other hand... This way I have the decision whether to make more contrast. And even as you said, the yellows and oranges had more red tone, it's only a second to correct during color grading. So I prefer the Insta look right now, but I can't wait to see my own footages do decide! :) One X is on the way! :)
Cool buddy!
Hi there, were the shutter speed and ISO the same at the time of shooting in the low light situation? Keep up the good work 👍
Hi Nick, initially I tried that but I found better results setting each camera’s exposure individually
Thanks, this video made my mind. I was going to buy the Fusion (usd 240), but the workflow thing is a deal breaker. My use will be real state filming.
Just got it yesterday, pure joy to use, pleasure to see videos afterwards
Nice 👍
Which non 360 camera you used to make this final video?
This is such an underrated channel, Love the Content, I have the Fusion and I’m loving it, mobile overcapture for video is good and I still use it sometimes for Instagram and Facebook, when I post on TH-cam I use the GoPro Priemere Plugins which are good as well, had the Insta for a couple weeks, loved the app, but didn’t like that you had to have a separate waterproof Case for water sports, and the durability is less than the Fusion for me. Can’t wait what’s in store for the Future.
Glad to hear it!!!
The One x has a lot of great features, I own one right now. I am going to filming weddings in 360 so unfortunately the One X losses here. The color quality is so much better and isn't that what is most important in filming? So for me, I go for Fusion because of the high res and color quality. thanks for your dedication Ben!!!
Actually it’s improving all the time with recent firmware updates.. I wouldn’t rule it out entirely :)
The One X is a consumer camera. If you want/need color that meets professional requirements you need to get an Insta360 Pro or some other pro-level equipment. I own the One X and I think both it and the Fusion have pretty awful color for professional application. I wouldn't professionally sell it as a service. That said, just like normal GoPro footage - you can get away with inserting it into a more upscale production if you limit its use and use it smartly. I was hoping the Insta360 would be good enough to replace one of my DSLR's for Google Street Tours, but it's not even close in color and resolution.
Can these connect via Bluetooth? I’m thinking of using one of these as a security camera while camping out of my truck. Just so I could quickly turn them on in the middle of the night to see what’s outside in a live view. Also in live view, can you look one direction or the other?Any suggestions? I have a Google pixel 3...
Ben, the Fusion and the 360X are now virtually the same price here in the UK....which do you recommend at the same price point?
One X
I already own a GoPro hero 8. Would it be best to get the fusion to keep the color scheme and video quality? Fusions are now cheaper then the intsa 360 one x
Ben Thanks! Leaning to the One X. Can u color correct with a mobile workflow?? What Android apps would you reccomend? Thought about also getting a GoPro 7 Black for Water activities. You think I could manage a mobile workflow with that as well? Thanks again!
Thanks- I’m not on android but yes you can color correct video files in the app. You can definitely do everything mobile.
Ben . . . What software can GoPro Fusion images be edited on now that Fusion Studio is discontinued? I just had it working on an older Mac OS version, but now it won't even open up. Have you heard about this? I know I have to upgrade but I was hoping to get a little more life out of my Fusion. GoPro lets me down again.
A month after finding this channel I brought the One X, Manfrotto Compact and Pixi. Thanks Ben, the workflow sold it for me.
After four days use I'm not disappointed in image quality, but do you have any recommendations on a stick-on windscreen solution for audio?
I also brought the dive case for active protection and waterproofing and seems to work well with the app having a stitching option for above water use. The only issue is it cannot fully remove the dive case in the nadir. Also the camera works with the battery removed and USB power for those wanting long capture times.
Hi Luke, glad to hear. What do you mean by a windscreen solution for audio?
@@BenClaremont something small to stick over the in built mic to cut wind noise. There are stick on dead cats but would intrude into frame. Thought you may have found a discrete foam solution in your research?
Shooting lots of motorsports content I think I'm still hanging with the fusion. Already invested in the mounting systems and not enough benefit to be changing. Now that is until I hear more from you about this Insta360 stitchless workflow in Premier. That sounds like a gamechanger.
Will report more soon!
Thank you for testing. I'm deciding between these two.
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Hi i've seen somewhere the workflow is better with the One x, now that i've got the One x i can say yes it's easy and fast on iphone x in my case. But the export is only 1080p. So i've got a question due to my use of The samsung gear vr glasses. i was able to export a 360 video with my mac at 5760 × 2880 resolution, but my samsung phone doesn't accept the codec after a 3 hours conversion, in 4k it works like a charm; any idea abouty the settings to keep that high resolution and watch it with my VR gear ?
I would like to see a comparison of GOPRO FUSION with modern 360 cameras
Amongst all the 360 cameras, is this the best when it comes to night / very low light 360 pictures and videos?
Secondly, is this by default a waterproof camera? Or does it require a housing ?
Already answered your question on another video
As someone looking to add 360 to my vlogs, I think the One X is appealing due to price, user friendliness and shorter render times. I love the look of the bullet time feature of the One X too.
Cool
Has the Insta 360 improved the contrast of video with firmware updates? Looking at the side by side, it seems that the contrast is way better on the Fusion, but I like the other features of the Insta. With the Fusion coming down in price so much, price is no longer a factor. I don't have the most powerful laptop, a 16GB MacBook Pro (2017). Would that have any issues with rendering and stitching the Fusion footage?
Now that's a great review and perfect conclusion! Kolor will be missed, and unfortunately this will reflect to the future of the Fusion.
Thanks buddy- looking forward to shooting with you and your new One X soon 😉
First, GREAT review. Being a guy who owns almost 30 GoPros, but not the Fusion-(just too pricey) this was a great comparison to what will be my next 360 camera. The one thing that bugs me about side by side comparisons is that if I saw either shot just by itself, it would look absolutely great to me. The subtle differences only seem to be significant if you are comparing otherwise I don't think I'd notice an issue if I was just looking at the videos and photos of one camera. I would probably be oohing and ahhing at how beautiful the shots are. Once again, great job.
Thanks Pete- yes I agree but the side by side also puts things in perspective!
Reminds me of going to the store to buy a TV. All those screens showing the same program was great but a bit overwhelming for me. I could look at just about any of them on their own and think the picture was great and never worry for the rest of my life.
So your saying because GoPro has parted with kolor, you don’t think GoPro will update their app to support stabilised over capturer touch points like the 1x does?
If GoPro had the same easy phone workflow as the 1x I’d much rather the GoPro, but I might get the 1x because of fusions imitations
That’s what I said 😉
I can't believe you missed the waterproofing on the gopro. I'm looking for a 360 action camera for drifting and not being afraid of water is a big factor
rapzeh the one x is waterproof too, just need to put on an accessory for 60€
@@Dimanichtderechte you just added 60€ of cost to the onex, which is currently already 30€ more expensive than the gopro. Plus, having to deal with an add-on
There are always many things missed in a comparison, the more important factor is image quality as so few people shoot near the water. Also easy to look that up 😉
Hi Ben. Just got the one x. Have you experienced juddering video with smart tracking?
Hi Mark- it does that during the actual motion tracking.. when playing back it will be smooth 👍
@@BenClaremont hi Ben I really appreciate the reply. Unfortunately it judders on the playback and I've sent a clip to the insta 360 18 this morning. I'm reassured to hear that the judge ring when you're actually doing the smart tracking is normal! Thanks again look forward to your videos each week I'm 57 but I love my smart gadgets.
Very cool. You helped me decide which to get. Since i use primarily a mobile work flow editing on my ipad pro, looks like it’s the insta 360 for me! When did the insta 360 one x come out? Last year? Do you think they will come out with a new version this year? Thanks!
Cool- it came out in September, which is when they usually come out with new models :)
Ben Claremont hey thanks! Hmm. What improvements do you think they will add to the next model? Or what would be on your wishlist? I am gonna nab one now tho. Don’t think I can wait until September. Spring is just about to start, and life is happening now. Too much fun to be had to wait. 👍🏼
Great video, I have a question though, is GoPro fusion still good for 2024?
Great video Ben 😎 As an owner of the Fusion I’m looking for a 360 camera that offers more, more features, easier editing, better stitching and better mobile/tablet editing. The biggest issue here is low light performance as the UK weather isn’t great for at least 6 months, so is it really that bad in cloudy or indoor lighting? My other use is for in car recording to capture not only the road ahead but the scene inside the vehicle, this is where great dynamic range is essential and also the ability to zoom in to produce a dolly zoom effect.
So I’m wondering if you think the OneX would stack up against the fusion in the situations I use it in? Thanks 🙏
Thanks John- will experiment further.. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be able to handle those situations
Great video! I agree with your outcome and have decided to return my Fusion for the one x. The post processing takes a little to long for the fusion and enjoy the one x mobile app ease of use. I also used the extra money saved to buy a Hero 7.
Christopher Pereira same here. One x convinced me with workflow
Thanks- good choice!
My dude, killing the 360 review game
Cheers bro!
Awesome comparison... Which is better in terms of Video / Image quality when there is Theta V & One X ?
Thanks- will try to compare them soon 👍
@@BenClaremont Waiting :-) Thank You
I know this would not be ideal but with the Insta360 One X, if you do not have access to a smart phone, can you still download your video directly into a computer and use the software to edit from your desktop?
Yes you can although it’s going to be more difficult
The Fusion is waterproof to some degree too. It's my choice (since I already have one). I'm glad to see it hasn't been crushed yet by the next generation.
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The one thing great about you is your presentation! That's what makes you and your videos unique than the rest! Anyways nice video :)
Thanks!
So now the price is the same - Fusion now at 450, OneX at 399. Is the added workflow hassle justified for the Fusion? Or still go with the OneX?
I’d still go One X
You did great Ben. Got a new subscriber mate!
One X = better form factor, cost less, footage and photos look amazing. The biggest one for me is the One X for faster render time. I currently have both the Fusion and the older Insta360 One and I always find myself reaching for my Insta360 One. It's just easier to work with. In fact I'm thinking about selling my Fusion and pick up the new One X.
Nice
Your reviews are beyond awesome!
Great comparison Ben, thanks. I just purchased the one x but hating it so far, poor stitch line, won't connect with my android phone, it does connect to my android tablet but the app software isn't compatible so no mobile work flow available. Very disappointing! I wonder if I maybe got a faulty unit?
Hi Joe, firstly you can calibrate stitching in the app, next it might be worth asking in the Facebook group about device compatibility.. it should be compatible with most recent-ish devices
Is there somewhere an in deep user manual available? For the ONE X?
Hmm at the moment I think it’s just what came in the box, and any further questions you have can be answered in the Insta360 Community Facebook group
This is the one I wanted to see to decide. Thanks Ben!
Cool 😎
Ben, i have that gear 360 and thinking a lot in buying the insta 360 one x, major because all of you said here.. the only problem is the price. In Brazilian Reais it is even expensive. So, my question is: is it possible to use the insta 360 one x app with the movie files of other cameras, like the 360? And about resolution is it so much better the one x than the gear 360? And that hyperlapse with blur effect, is it possible to do with premiere or with the insta 360 studii? Thank you so much for helping a lot of 360 photographers..
Nah you need the One X to use the One X app 👍
uw video's zijn het beste wat op 360° vlak op you tube te vinden is
English?
When you reviewed this, did the ONE X have HDR? (I am reading it may have came out after the release via a firmware update?). I'm thinking that may have helped a lot with the colors and washout.
No it didn’t.. so it will be even better now :)
I felt burned by the Nikon Keymission, so took a long pause on 360. Had designs on a Fusion until I began hearing workflow stories. Just unboxed the One X today, and was very impressed immediately. Easy to link and use app, good image quality (although dynamic range iffy). Overcapture/aiming and extracting HD was simple. Took clip to Adobe Rush, and had quite a positive experience in mobile workflow. Using One X on a long pole gave drone-like results. Only negative is waiting for proper Insta accessories including selfie stick and additional batteries.
Awesome, glad you like it! Yeah they have those two accessories :)
Hi Ben,
Thx for another great video. I’m looking to buy a One X 36O camera for my next trip snowboarding, as well as your eCourse to give me a good head start. Does the course provide any pointers wrt camera setup for shooting in the snow (and particularly low-light snow conditions like japan)? I’d be interested to know how you’d set up a One X for the snow (ie HDR in/off, log node, etc) Thx, Chris
Hi Chris- no snow situations unfortunately.. but if you head to the video course page you can see a trailer up top which shows you exactly what it’s about 👍
Excellent video! I ended up deciding to return my unopened Fusion and got the One X instead. Although the One X app could be improved, as it is right now, it's so much fun to use! It would be great if they brought all of the app's features to the desktop software!
Thanks- yes that would be great
Finally, a great comparison between these two cameras! I have the option to buy an open-box Fusion for almost the same price as the insta360 One X (485 EUR vs 476 EUR). In this case should I go for the Fusion? I have a powerful PC and prefer the audio from the GoPro but I’m afraid that the camera is abandonware and stuff like HDR will never be added... I’m undecided. What do you recommend? Also, can you please make a video tutorial on how to edit a TimeShift like footage in Premiere (adding motion blur and speed ramps)? Thank you! Keep up the good work!
Cloud Drive check out insta360’s community on Facebook. You won’t regret buying the One x. Better workflow and fast support
Yeah I’d probably suggest the One X for that ongoing improvement factor.. and timeshift is done in the app at the moment, see my last video :)
I'm Chromebook user be so I think insta360 is good for me..but just thinking be about is insta waterproof ?
Nope
Nice comparison, Ben. Your work is very much appreciated. I will be getting the one X as I am a workflow kind of guy.
Thanks Gary- good choice 👍
I'd go for the One X I think, based on price and photo capabilities, and HDR. Except low-light situations are a must for me as well, so I can't decide! But I guess in the end I'll be processing via computer, so can take out the noise and enhance things a bit. Probably would go with the One X.
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One x is best
Btw I searching 360 camera comparison and you posted all videos are made on really friendly subjects
ติดตามคุณจากประเทศไทย กำลังทดลองใช้ Insta 360 One X ขอบคุณมากๆ ครับ
Thank you, after further updates on one x what is the biggest difference now in june 2019? About Log on Insta, Fusion have Protune. That is like log, what did you use?
See my latest videos for most recent one X updates
Who takes photo from 360 camera?
My insta one x will get delivered tomorrow.. i am so excited.
You do!
Fusion is on sale for $300 right now. Would you take it over the One X at that price point? Great video!
Thanks! If you have beefy computer specs and can live without a proper mobile workflow then yes. Otherwise One X all the way 👍
I was seriously just going to ask this. I have been looking at these 2 cameras since the Insta360 One X was released, and finally, one of them went on sale. Thanks to GoPro for the technology, and thanks to Ben for making this decision a whole lot easier.
any news for new 2nd generation for gopro fusion?thanks
Not yet
Got a Fusion camera earlier this year, it was great! So much fun just using it for casual shoots :) but my laptop did not agree with the Fusion Studio; after doing some things to make it work; unfortunately never did; so I got the hero 7 Black instead! it's funny cause I remember the stabilization and video quality looks so much better with the Fusion; but I'm still happy! Great comparison video Ben, love watching them!
Thanks Michael 👍
Great video. Receiving my own little sample tomorrow of the OneX. Looks promising..
Cool
Hi Ben! What's the pole and the tripod extension you're using in that video ? Thx
Will make a video about it soon 👍
I really wish you had included full screen comparisons. I want to compare footage at 1:1 resolution.
What do you mean by full screen? Do you mean a 360 video? There’s heaps of sample footage on TH-cam already for that- and 360 definitely wouldn’t suit the nature of this comparison especially when talking about design, workflow etc.
The sweet spot is to shoot in Flat and another file that is ready for posting with more dynamic range. Hope these companies get this dual mode?
I'm new to trying to learn 360 and tiny planet which I fell in love with. My question which may sound stupid, with the 360 cameras do they have to work with your phone or do they work alone. Thank you for your time.
Hi Donna, no they don’t.. you can use them independently, however phones make it much easier to download and edit your files.
@@BenClaremont Thank you very much.
Hi ben, thanks for this great comparaison. I’m thinking to buy a 360 Caméra. But my use is mainlly for Vr video with my Oculus Quest. Wich caméra can you recommand to me ? Thanks in advance
Awesome vid my guy, definitely going with the one X. Cheers :)
I just don’t understand. It’s really annoying to edit video on a phone. How can you be precise? So I edit on a computer. But I still don’t understand. The One X stitches in Studio Beta and you then export to a compressed mp4 file, losing quality before you’ve even started the edit. Furthermore my Mac handles huge Prores files loads better than huge mp4 files, so am I missing something?
Furthermore, I’ve noticed in bright sunlight the stitch line on the One X is clearly visible. Also you mentioned the One X shoots in log mode but the Fusion also has Protune which is the same thing.
Most people edit on mobile.. editing this way is much faster and easier. For full 5.7k video you need to stitch on computer. Understood?
I’m not sure I agree that it’s easier to edit on a phone. Tiny screen. Trying to make precise edits with your finger. I don’t like it.
Are we agreed that mp4 is a compressed file format? The only current way to edit properly on a computer is to export each clip from the Insta Studio Beta as mp4 and then import in to Premiere or FCPX or whatever. So the footage will already be degraded before you start the edit? Is that how it’s done?
I saw in another more recent review something about the OneX can now send to PC unedited as I understood it and it is much better. Not that I understand this stuff at all! Just trying to decide now if I should get a Fusion for $100 less than the OneX. I probably just want to record grand children and family events and keep them for posterity. I have a lot of VR equipment, GTX 1080, RTX 1060 etc so I think the PC processing wouldn't be as much of a problem.
Though, I don't envision wanting to spend a lot of time on this, so OneX would be simpler. Going through a cashback site I can probably get the Fusion for $125 less than Onex. I think I might go that route and at least give it a try until something better comes along or Onex comes down to $300 cost. I like to keep under $300 price because using my Amex card they cover returns for 90 days, up to $300. Also see new Fusion selling on Ebay for $260, so that is another choice. I guess they are coming down in price to what they are worth, considering the issues.
i love gopro;s and the results stood up towards my bias point of view with 360 cams
Hello Ben. My videos are nocturnal (ar from show) Which one do you think is better?
PS: Insta360 One X HDR Video (firmware 1.17.12.1) has had an update. That's why I have this doubt.
Thank you
What do you mean?
Excuse. My English is not very good. I like to make show videos. What is the best camera for show videos (Low light video)?
PS. Now the Insta360 one records video in hdr.
Thank you