It just occured to me that the tubes on the "ceiling" of Metyr's realm are probably the roots of all the fingers in the world, I imagine now that when the fingers share their wisdom, Metyr is whispering into their roots like those playground pipes you talk to people through.
I really like this idea, because we know that Metyr is a broken star that the greater will abandoned. Which would mean that since the beginning, the fingers never really spoke with the greater will
@@namelessiam7792 i'm almost certain that is actually confirmed. I dont remember which item's description states it, but metyr and the fingers lost all connection with the Greater Will. The words of the finger are indeed those of the greater will, but they're words from a time when metyr wasn't abandoned yet. That's why they go still after you get rejected by the erdtree. Metyr wasn't expecting this, so she doesn't know what to tell you next, and she must take some time to try to guess what The Greater Will would want.
@@matthieuterrier3878 its 100% confirmed through the rememberence and the staff you get from the rememberence. The descriptions already confirm all of that
Using the Ringed Finger from the Fingercreeper ancestor, as well as the Sacred Relic Sword (the weapon of the Elden Beast as the other Fallen Star in the Lands Between) is a really neat theme for taking down Metyr!
@@BehuraStudioit is possible to out run it but ive only ever seen people do it already being far away then using bloodbounds step to outspace it and get to the end, still bullshit either way
i absolutely love how many different tools you've incorporated into the fight to punish different attacks, makes it so much more fun than a normal no-hit with star fists or whatever.
I just noticed that at one point the music just becomes a static droning, like those solar system 'sounds' you get from converting pressure waves. Chilling.
@@artezui Her slow moving "laser" attack at the end is a reference to a black hole in action. There you have the black hole (black sphere) and 2 opposing energy jets coming from its center, as in Hawking radiation. That was some awesome spectacle of a boss fight, i remember looking at the whole "black hole" second phase of Metyr with my mouth wide open :O
@@brohofied2561Relativistic jets from a blackhole is not Hawking Radiation. Jets only occur while the blackhole is consuming matter(from a star or something else) and is basically bits of the star shot out. Hawking radiation is unrelated and a completely different mechanism.
@@FreshSmog Yeap, you are right, my bad on just throwing Hawking radiation in the mix "ignorant comment vanquished" X) "One of Professor Stephen Hawking's most famous ideas is known as Hawking radiation. By leaking particles back into space, a black hole can very slowly evaporate away" Thanks for the clarifying, i should had said "gamma ray burst" and be done with it haha.
I have to say it, this is art. The way you interchanged between attacks, incantantions, ashes of war and even a freaking bow is just beutiful. What I try to say is... Brave Tarnished... Thy strenght befits a crown...
The fact that you used your fingers to control a character with fingers holding a finger to kill the Mother of fingers, who is made of fingers astounds me.
It took me a while to figure out that it's better to fight Astel head-on rather than attacking it at the sides. I was having a lot of trouble fighting Metyr until I noticed some parallels to the two boss fights and decided to try sticking close to Metyr's front. I was immediately more productive that way, and your moves in this fight further convince me that I picked up on a valid connection. I dig the idea of Fromsoft potentially connecting fighting styles with game lore, since Metyr is canonically the first of the stellar alien monster category.
Is it not possible to outrun it? I got that idea after like 30 attempts but on my next try it i got very good rng and beat it but it left me with that doubt
@@SaHaRaSquad nope, nothing works. I tried everything on that thing, dodging it physically impossible, you can't run beneath it because there's not enough space, you can't run counterclockwise, it will still hit you no matter how early you start to run, you can't run away from it either, because it works on the entire arena. This move is officially the most stupid attack in all the Elden Ring. Waterfowl dance was officially dethroned.
Hey Ongbal, amazing! Even when I tried to no hit this boss, that stupid laser attack was the only one I couldn't figure out for the love of god. Btw, think you need to update the description on the spells/incants that you used, still says Messmer's orb from the Midra fight I believe.
Love the amount of weapons you utilize. Great bow to shoot him while in the air, lightning cuz extra damage in water, raptors of the mist to avoid the attack, wave of gold to take out the fingers that spawn, and the giant finger! Brilliant
Appreciate that you always switched up your build in these and not resorting to the most broken shit available in the game too, because doing a 'no damage' run is very doable by anyone with some certain stupid build in this game
Hello, I have been following you for a long time. I am also a player who challenges the no damage challenge. I just finished defeating this BOSS without taking any damage, but that was because I was lucky. The BOSS did not release 02:46 move, so I was able to complete the no damage challenge. I think that move is impossible to dodge at close range, but I still believe that the last hope is you. You can always create miracles, but it seems that you have also come to the conclusion that you cannot dodge it normally. although it’s a bit of a pity, you still ran well. At the same time, I was disappointed with fromsoftware for the first time. They actually made such an unsolvable move.
If she starts that attack when you are in melee range - there is only one possible way to dodge it and it's very stupid. You need Miriam's Vanishing and Bloodhound Step. You can chain the i-frames from the vanishing into BHS with no gap, because BHS i-frames start at frame 1, unlike dodge roll. Quickstep instead of BHS might work, but the timing is probably insanely tight. There is a clip of that on my channel. Absolute clownshow of an attack.
@@SwagapagosTurtle I really don't understand some of the design decisions of elden ring bosses. A lot of bosses aren't even decent, they're just terrible. You CAN learn their moveset and master them, but so many of the bosses are just way overtuned and not fun to fight. Seems like fromsoft prioritized cool boss designs over cool movesets
@@priyanshumaurya007 No it isn't, if you're melee range when the move starts, you will only be able to get to the beam itself, which has a wider hitbox than you can dodge with vow
ONGBAL is a Great One. The lore YT videos haven’t caught up yet, but a careful reading of the item descriptions point to this. Maybe if we get a new DLC we might get some more hints to his nature
>02:46 This is the only way to avoid the first laser that I've found. I don't know if there is another way. Man, do i have good news for you. The attack is still stupid, but you can avoid it from point blank if you chain i-frames from Miriam's Vanishing into Bloodhound Step. There's a clip on my channel
@@Tinoco1x is there a limit on the amount of things required? Raptor also does NOT allow you to escape the attack if you are actually point blank in melee range when the attack starts. And technically, Ongball method also requires 2 things. It's just that the second thing is not an item/spell/skill, but specific positioning (that being far enough to not get clipped by the storm under the boss).
@@SwagapagosTurtle I will try both out. By the way I never implied your method was not good or anything . If it’s more consistent then I would say it’s even better than Ongbal’s
Dude I’m on NG+4 on my sl125 PvP character trying to get the sword of night and you just saved my life. I never even thought to use raptor of the mist to dodge the laser, you’re a fucking genius man.
I think there is another way to avoid the sweeping laser but you need to be in the right spot when it activates. I remember being able to stand close to the center in a place where the diagonal laser went above my head. It's possible I ran to the right spot when it triggered but I never managed to find it again in future attempts. I was either too close and got blasted by the whirlwind or was too far and the laser got me. Raptor of the Mist to the rescue as always!
I KNEW IT WAS UNDODGEABLE. The fact that Ongbal had to use raptor confirms it for me. Unless someone somehow found another method that can be performed with just rolling/jumping/running. I can't believe FromSoft would put an attack like this in the game.
Oh my finger. I can't believe the three shot laser is just run to the side. Greatly appreciate an answer to that bullshit blackhole beam, never used raptor of the mists but I'm definitely gonna see how it works now. And of course, using the big fingie to beat her is the greatest thing of all time. Truly, try finger, but hole!
2:46 is the perfect example of how this DLC cared about spectacle way more than gameplay, I didn't expect to see another Elden Stars situation again but here we are...
holy shit, I love these videos. He uses so many spells during the fight taking advantage of whatever is going on, excellent! Raptor of the mist is clutch when dodging BS ground things that otherwise will damage you, and I didnt know it existed until I saw Ongbals video before. 🤣
i stumbled in to this boss fight, unprepared and annihilated her. she is super weak to bleed. i kept throw kukri's at her , and using the barbed staff spear, which despite not listed in the weapon details, does decent bleed damage, along with the 15 light spears that pierce the enemy
For the gamma ray burst attack I have found that sticking close to the circular region often makes the attack straight up miss. I think you should give it a shot and see if it works.
I came here to see how you would dodge the side finger charge, but the one time the boss was going to use it, you stance broke her 😅 Great video, by the way!
The irony of using a finger to kill the Mother of Fingers, well done.
In front of this, need fingers
And according to the lore it hints that it was her finger to. Since it states it was from the ancestor of the finger creepers
@@thepublicpotato3887 So you are telling me she essentially fingered herself?
Call that a Thumb War
Galactic finger deity sent by the greater will defeated by a naked man with a comically large finger
...a finger which, likely, used to be one of its spawns.
@@ITBEurgavai think it's a finger from her tbh since the description says from an ancestor of the crawling fingers
Justice, the poetic kind.
I’d say Galactic finger deity fingered by its finger-child.
A finger that turns out she birthed, no less. Some irony.
ongbal vs kid named finger up next
Waltuh, use the funny finger weapon Waltuh
That's not kid named finger.
That's his mom, Mrs. Finger
@McS_Sunset ……..
It just occured to me that the tubes on the "ceiling" of Metyr's realm are probably the roots of all the fingers in the world, I imagine now that when the fingers share their wisdom, Metyr is whispering into their roots like those playground pipes you talk to people through.
Thats certainly one way to play everyone
I really like this idea, because we know that Metyr is a broken star that the greater will abandoned. Which would mean that since the beginning, the fingers never really spoke with the greater will
@@namelessiam7792 i'm almost certain that is actually confirmed. I dont remember which item's description states it, but metyr and the fingers lost all connection with the Greater Will. The words of the finger are indeed those of the greater will, but they're words from a time when metyr wasn't abandoned yet. That's why they go still after you get rejected by the erdtree. Metyr wasn't expecting this, so she doesn't know what to tell you next, and she must take some time to try to guess what The Greater Will would want.
@@matthieuterrier3878 its 100% confirmed through the rememberence and the staff you get from the rememberence. The descriptions already confirm all of that
@@namelessiam7792Ymir also states that Marika and the fingers were defective from the start
Using the Ringed Finger from the Fingercreeper ancestor, as well as the Sacred Relic Sword (the weapon of the Elden Beast as the other Fallen Star in the Lands Between) is a really neat theme for taking down Metyr!
Adds insult to injury 💀
No insult quite like “I am going to beat your with your descendant’s corpses”
Teacher: Okay class today we are going to finger paint
Kid named Methyr, Mother of Fingers:
Kid named "paint" sweating bullets
"powerful foe ahead, try finger!"
but, hole
You forgot but hole. Literally the most important part.
@@johnfrankster3244WHERE’S THE ENTRANCE ON THAT THING
2:44 I knew it was undodgeable normally.
yeah that was really helpful
I still find it so bizarre they made that move undodgeable aside from a specific few ash of wars, so weird
@@BehuraStudioit is possible to out run it but ive only ever seen people do it already being far away then using bloodbounds step to outspace it and get to the end, still bullshit either way
@@BehuraStudio Isn't Mohg's Nihil the same though? Why is this one so surprising?
@@armaani11 Nihil is stupid but this is pure bs
Every single input has it's purpose. This is perfection to the maximum.
Land of shadows seemed pretty useless as well tbh so you just sound DUMB
This is why i love ongbal every single movement is perfectly calculated
Mother of Fingers vs Father of NoHit
i absolutely love how many different tools you've incorporated into the fight to punish different attacks, makes it so much more fun than a normal no-hit with star fists or whatever.
Variety of weapons being used makes it even more cooler
Waiting for Ongbal to no-hit Romina and kill her with with scarlet rot, since he killed the Mother of Fingers using the Ringed Finger.
@@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache kills miquella with holy damage
The way I learn 20 times more by watching this guy then any other in depth guide ever needs to be studied.
Never thought I'd see the mist raven technique again, but there it is... still as impressive as ever.
Seeing your channel be resurrected with the dlc is amazing.
It’s just like the good old sekiro days.
I just noticed that at one point the music just becomes a static droning, like those solar system 'sounds' you get from converting pressure waves. Chilling.
look up the sounds of a black hole by nasa
@@artezui Her slow moving "laser" attack at the end is a reference to a black hole in action. There you have the black hole (black sphere) and 2 opposing energy jets coming from its center, as in Hawking radiation. That was some awesome spectacle of a boss fight, i remember looking at the whole "black hole" second phase of Metyr with my mouth wide open :O
@@brohofied2561Relativistic jets from a blackhole is not Hawking Radiation. Jets only occur while the blackhole is consuming matter(from a star or something else) and is basically bits of the star shot out. Hawking radiation is unrelated and a completely different mechanism.
@@FreshSmog Yeap, you are right, my bad on just throwing Hawking radiation in the mix "ignorant comment vanquished" X)
"One of Professor Stephen Hawking's most famous ideas is known as Hawking radiation. By leaking particles back into space, a black hole can very slowly evaporate away" Thanks for the clarifying, i should had said "gamma ray burst" and be done with it haha.
I have to say it, this is art. The way you interchanged between attacks, incantantions, ashes of war and even a freaking bow is just beutiful. What I try to say is... Brave Tarnished... Thy strenght befits a crown...
The fact that you used your fingers to control a character with fingers holding a finger to kill the Mother of fingers, who is made of fingers astounds me.
The Fingerception
Say “fingers” one more time.
@@nisfornick Nah, said it five times already. One more and it would bee too many for a hand.
@@High-Impact-Vivid-Colors Solid point. 😆
No Fingerprint shield....
You make this boss fights a true spectacle, love ur vids!
It took me a while to figure out that it's better to fight Astel head-on rather than attacking it at the sides. I was having a lot of trouble fighting Metyr until I noticed some parallels to the two boss fights and decided to try sticking close to Metyr's front. I was immediately more productive that way, and your moves in this fight further convince me that I picked up on a valid connection.
I dig the idea of Fromsoft potentially connecting fighting styles with game lore, since Metyr is canonically the first of the stellar alien monster category.
sucks that the only found way to dodge the first laser is through a missable ash of war
Did someone try it with the i-frame boosting talisman & tear?
blood hound step works too i think
Is it not possible to outrun it? I got that idea after like 30 attempts but on my next try it i got very good rng and beat it but it left me with that doubt
@@SaHaRaSquad nope, nothing works. I tried everything on that thing, dodging it physically impossible, you can't run beneath it because there's not enough space, you can't run counterclockwise, it will still hit you no matter how early you start to run, you can't run away from it either, because it works on the entire arena. This move is officially the most stupid attack in all the Elden Ring. Waterfowl dance was officially dethroned.
If you stand real close to the middle damaging aura under the boss right at the edge, the lasers just pass right over you i found
Hey Ongbal, amazing! Even when I tried to no hit this boss, that stupid laser attack was the only one I couldn't figure out for the love of god. Btw, think you need to update the description on the spells/incants that you used, still says Messmer's orb from the Midra fight I believe.
He did use Messmer’s Orb in the Midra fight
Edit: oop sorry I read that wrong nvm! XD
@@itzkilas XD looks like Ongbal has fixed it as well
There is a gap between Metyr and the laser, just stand in that gap and the laser can't hit you.
@@MegaPieru3000 Not for the first laser it seems
You are hands down the best PvE Elden Ring player I have seen. So impressive!
I don’t think I’ve seen a fight that made ONGBAL use this large a variety of skills. Wonderful to watch
Ur battles are fascinating. Genuinely entertaining to watch. Hope your vids get pushed to the top when ppl look for boss vids.
Love the amount of weapons you utilize. Great bow to shoot him while in the air, lightning cuz extra damage in water, raptors of the mist to avoid the attack, wave of gold to take out the fingers that spawn, and the giant finger! Brilliant
One the creepiest boss designs ive ever seen. Good job ongbal i learn so much by just watching you play
The best DLC video fight until now in my opinion, you make look like a movie, that radahn bow at the laser move, just crazy.
The lasers at 2:50 coming out of the black hole... Kind of lines up with what we know about gamma ray bursts / relativistic jets. Breathtaking battle
I hope one day you'll post the fight I'm still looking forward to... Bloodborne's Ebrietas which is very similar to this Boss in Atmosphere.
Appreciate that you always switched up your build in these and not resorting to the most broken shit available in the game too, because doing a 'no damage' run is very doable by anyone with some certain stupid build in this game
Hello, I have been following you for a long time.
I am also a player who challenges the no damage challenge.
I just finished defeating this BOSS without taking any damage, but that was because I was lucky.
The BOSS did not release 02:46 move, so I was able to complete the no damage challenge.
I think that move is impossible to dodge at close range, but I still believe that the last hope is you.
You can always create miracles, but it seems that you have also come to the conclusion that you cannot dodge it normally.
although it’s a bit of a pity, you still ran well.
At the same time, I was disappointed with fromsoftware for the first time. They actually made such an unsolvable move.
When in doubt - Vow of the Indomitable
If she starts that attack when you are in melee range - there is only one possible way to dodge it and it's very stupid. You need Miriam's Vanishing and Bloodhound Step. You can chain the i-frames from the vanishing into BHS with no gap, because BHS i-frames start at frame 1, unlike dodge roll.
Quickstep instead of BHS might work, but the timing is probably insanely tight.
There is a clip of that on my channel. Absolute clownshow of an attack.
@@SwagapagosTurtle I really don't understand some of the design decisions of elden ring bosses. A lot of bosses aren't even decent, they're just terrible. You CAN learn their moveset and master them, but so many of the bosses are just way overtuned and not fun to fight. Seems like fromsoft prioritized cool boss designs over cool movesets
But is it easy to dodge with Vow of indomidable since it gives a full second ?
@@priyanshumaurya007 No it isn't, if you're melee range when the move starts, you will only be able to get to the beam itself, which has a wider hitbox than you can dodge with vow
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ무기 선택이 센스가 넘치시는군요
Bc his my son
He just murdered her with one of her children's head that's wild
the way you use all of the different moves to counter certain attacks is so fucking cool.
Damn that was the most stylish fight I've seen in a long time. Nice work!
ONGBAL is a Great One. The lore YT videos haven’t caught up yet, but a careful reading of the item descriptions point to this. Maybe if we get a new DLC we might get some more hints to his nature
Who?
There won't be more DLC. Miyazaki said so in an interview
@@HeavensRipper-he4sz I’m joking
@@fl4avv721the guy doing all of the no hit boss fights
@@LucasDimoveo ohhh okay
The most intense thumb-wrestling match in history
ah yes, the great thumb war of 24...
Whenever I watch this, my mind unhelpfully starts playing the "Fingerbang" song from South Park and now so will yours.
Thank you for 4k. Great work.
You will never cease to amaze us.
Thank you Mother of fingers and thank you shadow sunflower for being really cool side bosses not too complex but that feel very rewarding to beat
>02:46 This is the only way to avoid the first laser that I've found. I don't know if there is another way.
Man, do i have good news for you.
The attack is still stupid, but you can avoid it from point blank if you chain i-frames from Miriam's Vanishing into Bloodhound Step. There's a clip on my channel
I tried it. But this even requires two things (spell and aow).
It's a shame that there is no normal way :(
@@_ONGBAL You mean you "tried it" now? Or tried earlier and it didn't work?
But yea, I agree. Shame.
@@SwagapagosTurtle What you said does work but requires 2 things. Ongball method only 1 (the aow).
@@Tinoco1x is there a limit on the amount of things required? Raptor also does NOT allow you to escape the attack if you are actually point blank in melee range when the attack starts.
And technically, Ongball method also requires 2 things. It's just that the second thing is not an item/spell/skill, but specific positioning (that being far enough to not get clipped by the storm under the boss).
@@SwagapagosTurtle I will try both out. By the way I never implied your method was not good or anything . If it’s more consistent then I would say it’s even better than Ongbal’s
greatest thumb war ever to be declared
Dude I’m on NG+4 on my sl125 PvP character trying to get the sword of night and you just saved my life. I never even thought to use raptor of the mist to dodge the laser, you’re a fucking genius man.
I think there is another way to avoid the sweeping laser but you need to be in the right spot when it activates. I remember being able to stand close to the center in a place where the diagonal laser went above my head. It's possible I ran to the right spot when it triggered but I never managed to find it again in future attempts. I was either too close and got blasted by the whirlwind or was too far and the laser got me.
Raptor of the Mist to the rescue as always!
This boss room gotta be under the Elden beast one bro thsts all I’m saying that’s my crackhead theory
I think their location lines up pretty close to under the erdtree when the maps are superimposed.
@@ericjensen7580 but why though? What's the lore behind it?
@@camy3947 elden beast and mertyr are both children of the greater will. Basically siblings
It wouldn't be that far off, considering they share a similar base model
That finger club is something straight out of courage the cowardly dog i swear 😂
you really had your finger on the pulse of that
The giga chad really used a finger to best Mother of Fingers.
Even ongbal couldn’t dodge the double laser lol
They gotta fix that
Knowing he would stagger at 2:13 is honestly crazy
The swap to the wave of gold simply to deal with the lil dudes is hilarious
Ongbal you can also use ash of war vow of the indomitable for first laser.
GG! inspirational as always
I love the fact that he did it with a finger
Metyr's fight and lore was the cosmic horror I wanted in the base game.
I know you were trying to hit her during the super double laser, but you should've shown more of it haha
Finally, the Thumb War championships...
Perfection is truly beautiful
One of her attacks is literally a gamma ray burst... This pleases my astronomy hyperfixated self
I KNEW IT WAS UNDODGEABLE.
The fact that Ongbal had to use raptor confirms it for me. Unless someone somehow found another method that can be performed with just rolling/jumping/running. I can't believe FromSoft would put an attack like this in the game.
Oh my finger. I can't believe the three shot laser is just run to the side. Greatly appreciate an answer to that bullshit blackhole beam, never used raptor of the mists but I'm definitely gonna see how it works now.
And of course, using the big fingie to beat her is the greatest thing of all time. Truly,
try finger, but hole!
Eldritch god named finger:
I really like how you use different weapons
손가락의 어머니를 반자손가락으로 패다니 발상이 대단하군요
I ran into her and decimated her pretty late in my playthrough, so it’s cool to get a chance to see her different moves.
2:46 is the perfect example of how this DLC cared about spectacle way more than gameplay, I didn't expect to see another Elden Stars situation again but here we are...
The Jump to avoid the Laser was phenomenal😊
I was imagining him wearing Renala's finger like helmet the whole time.
Welcome back, Ebrietta, daughter of the cosmos
Ebrietta wasn't this hard lol.
using raptor of the mists to dodge the big laser.... I seriously didn't think it was possible to do no hit during this boss, you proved me way wrong!
This boss creeped tf out of me. Some cosmic entity that communicates to the greater will that is beyond human comprehension. Very bloodborne-esque
holy shit, I love these videos. He uses so many spells during the fight taking advantage of whatever is going on, excellent! Raptor of the mist is clutch when dodging BS ground things that otherwise will damage you, and I didnt know it existed until I saw Ongbals video before. 🤣
It’s nice to see this done “right”-i kinda just clown-shoes my way through it when I went in and won with Biggar Numbar (tm)
It's the first time I see someone dodge that fucking beam
How much you want Bloodborne 2?
Miyazaki: Yes.
“Let’s see you kill the boss without using spells, it’s such a crutch”
Ah yes, the old adage. Fight finger with finger
Beautiful execution❤
Just when i thought i explored everything in the dlc i see this random ass boss and now i gotta go searching again
yeah you have to do one of the best quest to fight it , also be sure to give jolan the occultation iris for the katana .
I knew that laser attack was bull.
How ironic, finger servant of the Great Will defeated with part of one of it's spawns, and weapon of another servant of the Great Will...
How would you dodge the attack where she runs sideways damaging you with her fingers? Running straight backwards didn't work well for me
ongbal you are so smart and so talented
i stumbled in to this boss fight, unprepared and annihilated her. she is super weak to bleed. i kept throw kukri's at her , and using the barbed staff spear, which despite not listed in the weapon details, does decent bleed damage, along with the 15 light spears that pierce the enemy
you're always awesome sir!
When it spins, the music pop up in my hear: helikopter helikopter...😂
i never thought this boss was hard, but seeing this it it makes it look hard lol.
Bloodborne's cosmic horror was all about eyes, Elden Ring's is all about fingers
I have never seen Ognbal using so many things to defeat a boss.
For the gamma ray burst attack I have found that sticking close to the circular region often makes the attack straight up miss. I think you should give it a shot and see if it works.
You knocked down the mother of finger with the weapon of finger.
You gave her the finger. Nice job.
I just got to this boss... this second phase is insane
My favorite boss of the game next to messmer so sick!
I came here to see how you would dodge the side finger charge, but the one time the boss was going to use it, you stance broke her 😅 Great video, by the way!
it's like watching the bob ross of soulsborne
One two three four, I declare a thumb war.