Not really left her on read, I think. More like something happened to her that disconnected her to The Greater Will. It's probably The Nox's fault as they scheme together with Bayle to assault Farum Azula
@@Ron_Jambo_I think it's because Metyr may be the god Placidusax is consort of. Since Farum Azula has some weird connections with gold and since Placidusax is explicitly stated to be an Elden Lord. Metyr was broken at one point, not the GW abandoning her. And The Nox also has that Fingerslayer Blade too. So they possibly worked together with Bayle, promising him to be the new lord. Using him as a distraction so they can wound Metyr
The fact that she's literally a concerned mother pulling divine will out of her rear is even funnier. And even funnier than that? She is "try fingers but hole" incarnate, the answer to the prayer we've all been writing online all these years.
I like how, when we defeat her, she doesnt just "turns into ash and vanishes". The microcosm teleports her, propably to where she came from. Nice touch
She actually does start to disintegrate into white light right before the microcosm collapses. It's almost like a black hole collapsing in on itself after she dies because she can't keep it stable anymore.
I'm pretty sure she just dies differently. Well, probably not even die, because when you use her head as a weapon, it kinda alludes to her still being alive, saying that whenever you use her special attack, it makes her angry that she is forced to bow down
@@hypnoticskull6342 Remembrance weapons aren't actually the body parts/weapons of the bosses. They're memories from the Erdtree given form, hence why they're always scaled to your character's size. Enia mentions something about it the first time you talk about remembrances.
Shit thats a great analogy. Very lovecraft... they see these strange, giant, powerful beings descending from what would be the heavens from thier perspective but to us its just a bit of fishing on Tuesday.
@@jamiekeane471there's a literal story about an eldritch sphinx written by Lovecraft, he described it as a foul monstrosity and later revealed that it was just a paw of the real sphinx, the protagonist went crazy after seeing it. It's called "Imprisoned with pharaohs", btw
I like that, but I always assumed she’s the Meteor the Elden Beast arrives on. My first thought was palm readings, and how they can tell one’s fate or past. Besides gestures are probably how we spoke or interacted before spoken words, (so if the Hands were around during the time of Dragons, maybe it’s meaning has to do with dexterity and having digits to make things). The Elden Ring (to me) is a Kabbalah Tree of Life, and the Ring dictates the laws of the universe, life and death etc. Then you have Gnosticism where the Demiurge (Elden Beast) creates corporeal life/the physical world (however Ghostics believe we must escape from said corporeal world to return to the pleroma and Sophia where our spirits truely belong). I always thought the hands stood for the mind, communication/speech, intelligence and civilization. Without the fingers, we couldn’t communicate with the Greater Will, whose Beast IS the Elden Ring. I think that, not unlike messenger angels, the Greater Will wanted to be known and proselytize so it sent Metyr, a Meteor, to aid in this effort. What good is the laws of the universe, when you cannot dictate those who live in it? What good is ruling over the structure of life, if you cannot interact with those within it? You grab a helping hand to help bridge the communication gap between god and men. Having said that, I love the idea of the hand in a pond of water visual for communication.
For me it just sounds like an airplane flying overhead far up, everytime i hear it in a background video of her i always check if it is some airplane flying above or just the "music".
you know, many pieces of media replicated Lovecraft's work and descriptions in an attempt to create some scary monstrocities, only for those to end up looking kinda genric in an "another gross tentacle movie monster that doesn't really feel disturbing or induce the primal fear" way but FromSoft designs are perhaps the most accurate portrayal of the unknown, otherwordly and primally terrifying we really need a FromSoft game where you go around slaying eldritch horrors (another one!)
I think its because most things make eldritch things so alien and different to what we normally see that we just don't really get it, Fromsoft and a few of the other good designs always make sure to include something human or at least natural, which might cause your reaction to be more unnerved because those things shouldn't have those things.
What horrifies me is how the Fingers seem to be bursting out of her in places where they shouldn’t be popping out of… almost like she’s brimming with the things, riddled with countless ectopic pregnancies that she shouldn’t be having. Like her DNA, her very code, has gone completely haywire. Seems to me like Ymir was right.
She has been maimed by Fingerslaying Blade! That is the crime of Nox/Numen that made Greater Will so irate at them. They tried to kill his daughter. But only managed to maim her.
An interesting detail is how, amongst all the other similarities she has to the Elden Beast, both their tails reflect the trees of their respective lands. Metyr's tail is a dead ringer for the Scadutree. With two "trunks" wrapped around each other before splitting near the top. It's an interesting association for Metyr to have.
Based on descriptions in the game, the spiral is the symbol of the crucible and the spiral motif is seen in the Scadutree, Metyr's tail, Romina's tail, the tower of Belurat, and probably a couple other places.
The spiral is the best way to communicate with the gods. It's why the hornsent made the tower have spirals to better commune with the outer gods. So im guessing the spiral shape acts as an antenna.
@@bondrewd5935it's described in the elden stars incantation that the elden beast arrived on a meteor. Metyr is described as coming to the lands between as a shooting star. My headcanon: Metyr is the meteor Elden Beast rode to the lands between on.
Other studios: "Noooooo, we can't design dragons with 4 feet. That's too hard to animate!!!" Fromsoft: "More fingers! MORE! And make each one wiggle individually!"
Ima be honest, I’ve never seen a company complain about having to design dragons. Elden Ring is basically just Dark Souls 3 but with open world so don’t act like they did anything crazy here in terms of animation or graphics. I say this as someone who loves the games and the company.
@@richizzle39i think its just hilarious when american devs have a fit about this game and all the praise, accolades, sales its getting Then you see what they make and its some garbage app
@@Devin7Eleven The significance seems to be intelligence. The ability to manipulate objects and use tools is what usually gives rise to higher intelligence in animals. This is true for things like octopi and dolphins... as they *do* manipulate objects without fingers... but nothing beats apes and our hands for intelligence. Fingers are OP.
@@trustmeits610pm2 And this concept is strengthened by the dragon-beasts lore in Farum Azula, when it is esplictly narrated that it was by the evolution of fingers that they became intelligent (you can see burials similar to the one of the first populations of men)
A thought entered my mind about why Caria Manor was home to a bunch of the fingercreepers, and just like that I found the answer: The Carians studied the stars, gaining sorcery from the cosmos… and where did the fingercreepers come from….? It probably felt like the closest thing to home for them. And it explains why there are some in the Mountaintops of the Giants because that’s where the astrologers were once in the past.
Yup. And also, don't forget where you find her. Cathedral of Manus Metyr. And where do you take the final steps for ranni's quest? Cathedral of Manus Celes.
@@DestroyDEI oh wow, I forgot the name of that place! I knew the word, or title, “Manus” made an appearance in the base game and not just from Dark Souls. Also, does “Metyr” mean anythi- wait… as I was typing the word, it could’ve autocorrected it to “Meteor”. Met-e-or Manus Metyr = Hand Meteor 🧐 EDIT: Metyr = Mother Metyr = Meteor Metyr = Martyr Metyr = Matron Lots of speculation… just as the developers intended.
- Sir we found another dead tarnished in the middle of nowhere. It's the 48th this week. - Good Elden Lord, we might have another cosmic entity on the loose......any fingerprints ? - Yeah about that......
The assumption here is that she was ever in communication with this "Greater Will" at all. She was willing to lie about communicating with it for who knows how long. Why would you expect that she was ever honest about this communication in the first place? She came to the Lands Between and started spreading her religion seemingly at first contact with the denizens of the land. She's an evangelist. Exactly the sort of figure Miyazaki has always treated with a great deal of skepticism.
Did the Greater Will know that Metyr was damaged and she couldn't conmunicate with them anymore? Was the Elden Beast like a second more successful attempt of a divine being sent by the Greater Will to the Lands Between to correct Metyr's errors in the golden order?
I like the idea(from Ratatoskr’s stream) where a thousand years into the future, Metyr finally receives a message and it’s just: “Okay, all Placidusax has to do is…”
it seems like based on this design, the fingercreepers are a malformed result of her injuries? Maybe that’s why there’s no new two fingers being created, because since her injury she can only produce fingercreepers
It looks like they are growing through her skin, all the additional fingers are malformed creepers trying to force their way out.... unsettling to say the least.
If you look at her tail, the wounds there are also growing Two Fingers, as is the wound on her shoulder. As is her massive "stomach" wound. It looks like she less births new Fingers as more simply divides her own essence into new Fingers.
@@FaeQueenCory it looks to me like the two fingers are growing inside her like parasites, and are coming out of her body similar to something like a botfly.
I wonder if perhaps she isn't growing out new fingers so much as they are parasitising her. They seem to resemble maggots in a wound, some of them even lifting off skin, which could be why she is referred to as "broken". They're also pointing up towards the orb in her tail, which I see as her connection to the Greater Will. Perhaps they were trying to "usurp" her connection for some reason? It does sort of tie into what Ymir said about the "roots" or fingers themselves being corrupted from the start...
Since Metyr was the first and from the Cinquedea item description we learn that five fingers is the sign of intelligence, I wonder if Metyr’s purpose was to give life intelligence after the Greater Will separated itself from the One Great and then the Elden Beast’s purpose was to establish order. Once those goals were accomplished, the Greater Will cut off communication.
the head looking like a big thumb with an iris that looks like a d-pad really lends to the theory that there's some kind of meta connection between the fingers and players' hands on a controller.
Metyr is the mother to the Two Fingers and fingercreepers so the Three Fingers of the Frenzied Flame is just a mockery of the Greater Will putting a middle finger to it.
The god of frenzyed flame seems more likely to have born when the GW created life, in that moment with life itself the desire to stop suffering was born along side it, the flame is the personification of the desire to never been born, in order to end one suffering forever, thats why the frenzy appear in the eyes of pleple that have suffered a lot and only want the suffering to stop.
@@D3athL1vin im guessing because of the hidden treasure of nokstella, which is the FINGER slayer blade, and the people of nokstella are the nox (idk how theyre called)
The more I look at Metyr, the more she has the same deity-like aura just like the Elden Beast since both of them came from beyond the Greater Will and the finger mother here seems to be the sort of messenger for the greater will to convey it's messages so it can transfer it to the fingers in the Lands Between so the people there can interpret, primarily the Finger Readers
I think just like Marika and Miquella, she seems like physical body that has been abandoned. And since Shadow realm used to work as somewhat like afterlife, which is why she located here and under the water(unlike elden beast has sky-like arena)
@@gladiusbladeofthenorth9939My headcanon since the game came out and seeing Astel is that this is just a Bloodborne prequel Michael created to prep us for Bloodborne 2. We have beast people and Eldritch abominations. We have Winter Lanterns and madness. Crazy deities and stuff with the moon. Thousand Years Voyage of the Stars under the moon? And so begins the Paleblood. This is my happy place LOL
Notice how she only has 4 fingers, and linking back to an item desc that suggests that 5 fingers are what represents intelligence, its clear to say that Metyr might have been broken from the very start
it just occurred to me that metyr's skin is mottled black, blue, purple, red-- all colors that you get when you break a finger/hand/foot she is ***literally*** broken
it's kind of pitiful. she was sent down to this world to be a guide for her own kin and for all life, but she was abandoned and left to rot-- presumably succumbed to a similar madness as rennala, having lost any purpose aside from birthing new fingers, each and all bereft of purpose. her children themselves were deprived of guidance from their mother or their cosmic creator, forever stuck trying to fix a world they didn't seem to fully understand, while their own chosen god worked against them. little wonder that the three fingers saw the entire microcosm as a mistake to be rectified
Or even better- if they never come to this world none of all these bull shits will ever happen, how about that? Like why are you victimize these cosmic freaks?
she wasnt abandoned, she basically had a wifi connection with the greater will but presumably it looks like the nox used the finger slaying blade on her which damaged her enough for her to not be able to hear the greater will anymore
What a stellar design, there's so much to analyze and adore about it! What I find to be a particularly nice touch is how the bottom part of the golden ring surrounding the microcosm is much brighter than the rest of it, giving it the appearance of a rune arc.
Notice how, besides the head, everything about her is made of sets of two fingers. The 4 fingered hands are two sets of two fingers stitched together, the legs are also many sets of two fingers.
As someone who loves space, having a quasar as an attack automatically makes Metyr an A tier boss. Seriously, you can't get any cooler than that. And the fact that her death animation is just being sucked into a black hole is something else
I saw a diagram yesterday that says that the wound seemingly originating from a missing wrist on the finger creepers is actually from the removal of the tail (two) fingers, which either die or become their own Two Fingers.
The Sphere helded by Metyr is called sun, but the Greater Will is described as an Abyss of Knowledge with fits the description of a black hole Black Holes are the final stage of massive stars cycles Maybe the Greater Will actually WAS a Star, but something made it collapse and transform into a Black Hole. And the moment it "Collapsed", it stopped sending signals.
Am I crazy for thinking that Metyr's front body looks like it was slashed, and that it closely matches the shot from the story trailer from where Marika pulls the golden threads?! Is Marika the one who "broke" Metyr by severely injuring her and taking from her something divine that she used to commune with the GW?
The eyeball is interesting with that symbol like pupil. Also yeah this thing is totally the reason the nox’s created the finger slayer blade in the first place I’m calling now!
@richizzle39 I mean, I can. Bloodborne is the only Playstation exclusive that i find appealing. The rest aren't really my cup of tea, and getting a ps4 just for one game alone seems kinda financially irresponsible. Also, even though I reeeeaally want to play bloodborne, what if I don't love the game when I actually get to play it? Or maybe it's just amazing and I overthink too much lol idk
My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
since so much of Elden Ring is based on the Rebis, and how godhood is obtained by the conjoining of male and female elements, Marika and Radagon, The Promised Consort, joining of the Sun and Moon, and so everything is guided by the two fingers. For all of creation, there was always two. Even the hornsent's beloved spiral utilizes this theme. Then I look at Metyr and notice a fascinating artistic detail, the wound on her chest is her birthing canal, while her head behaves more as a phallic instrument than a tool for communication, shes literally a Hermaphrodite.
Metyr is literaly supposed to be the hand of god (the greater will), yet you can see it is cut off and is so twisted it barely looks like a hand anymore. How can such being guide and delegate to lesser beings? When Marika brandished the Elden ring and founded the golden order, it was corrupted from the very beginning, just as metyr.
I'm almost certain that the fingerslayer blade was first used against Metyr, in a failed attempt to destroy it. And if youre high on the speculative copium, maybe the treason mentioned on the blade was against Marika and Metyr.
A twisted and malformed aberration, yet with the raw power of the cosmos at the tip of it's fingers (Heh). Interesting that some of it's abilities are related to and/or inspired by real life cosmic phenomena. Take the big magic sphere for example: anyone with eyes will see that it looks like a black hole, and when it does that big double gravity laser attack, I am reminded strongly of a quasar or a pulsar. And the boss itself looks quite a bit like if the pillars of creation nebulae was a creature of flesh and blood. Interesting implications, no?
Metyr is so beautifully grotesque, she might be my most favorite boss in terms of design in Elden Ring, as least when it comes to the cosmic horror aspect of it. This really just makes me want more of Bloodborne, or really just another Soulsborne game mostly focusing on cosmic horror elements because FromSoftware is insanely good at designing horrifying lovecraftian gods.
Greater Will left her on read far worse than Marika ever did to Messmer.
Greater Will left Metyr on hold forever
While Marika left Messmer on dial until she returned which she didnt
Not really left her on read, I think. More like something happened to her that disconnected her to The Greater Will. It's probably The Nox's fault as they scheme together with Bayle to assault Farum Azula
Some people have the wildest headcanons
@@dzakyatmaja488 Source please ? Sound interesting
@@Ron_Jambo_I think it's because Metyr may be the god Placidusax is consort of. Since Farum Azula has some weird connections with gold and since Placidusax is explicitly stated to be an Elden Lord.
Metyr was broken at one point, not the GW abandoning her. And The Nox also has that Fingerslayer Blade too. So they possibly worked together with Bayle, promising him to be the new lord. Using him as a distraction so they can wound Metyr
The fact that Metyr is basically a broken divine wifi tower is way too hilarious
Won't get good signal if she keep being underground
Its quite sad actually
The fact that she's literally a concerned mother pulling divine will out of her rear is even funnier.
And even funnier than that?
She is "try fingers but hole" incarnate, the answer to the prayer we've all been writing online all these years.
maybe Metyr forgot to upgrade from GPRS to 5G
@@necrovive she just needs to install wifi extenders thats all
I like how, when we defeat her, she doesnt just "turns into ash and vanishes". The microcosm teleports her, propably to where she came from. Nice touch
"Fuck this shit, i'm out" -Metyr
She actually does start to disintegrate into white light right before the microcosm collapses. It's almost like a black hole collapsing in on itself after she dies because she can't keep it stable anymore.
I'm pretty sure she just dies differently. Well, probably not even die, because when you use her head as a weapon, it kinda alludes to her still being alive, saying that whenever you use her special attack, it makes her angry that she is forced to bow down
Greater Will took her back home.
@@hypnoticskull6342 Remembrance weapons aren't actually the body parts/weapons of the bosses. They're memories from the Erdtree given form, hence why they're always scaled to your character's size. Enia mentions something about it the first time you talk about remembrances.
I'm starting to think that the fingers come from that analogy of fishes witnessing a hand in their pond and thinking of it as a separate being
Shit thats a great analogy.
Very lovecraft... they see these strange, giant, powerful beings descending from what would be the heavens from thier perspective but to us its just a bit of fishing on Tuesday.
Right, but the hand has been severed.
@@jamiekeane471there's a literal story about an eldritch sphinx written by Lovecraft, he described it as a foul monstrosity and later revealed that it was just a paw of the real sphinx, the protagonist went crazy after seeing it.
It's called "Imprisoned with pharaohs", btw
I like that, but I always assumed she’s the Meteor the Elden Beast arrives on. My first thought was palm readings, and how they can tell one’s fate or past. Besides gestures are probably how we spoke or interacted before spoken words, (so if the Hands were around during the time of Dragons, maybe it’s meaning has to do with dexterity and having digits to make things).
The Elden Ring (to me) is a Kabbalah Tree of Life, and the Ring dictates the laws of the universe, life and death etc. Then you have Gnosticism where the Demiurge (Elden Beast) creates corporeal life/the physical world (however Ghostics believe we must escape from said corporeal world to return to the pleroma and Sophia where our spirits truely belong). I always thought the hands stood for the mind, communication/speech, intelligence and civilization. Without the fingers, we couldn’t communicate with the Greater Will, whose Beast IS the Elden Ring. I think that, not unlike messenger angels, the Greater Will wanted to be known and proselytize so it sent Metyr, a Meteor, to aid in this effort.
What good is the laws of the universe, when you cannot dictate those who live in it? What good is ruling over the structure of life, if you cannot interact with those within it? You grab a helping hand to help bridge the communication gap between god and men. Having said that, I love the idea of the hand in a pond of water visual for communication.
that's a common allegory yeah : Gods being so powerfull only their fingertips can reach us.
Ah, sweet Miyazaki-made horrors beyond my comprehension...
Pretty sure Miyazaki did not design all the characters.
@@YuriMomoirohis direction is in all aspects of the game hes super involved
I'm suprised he didn't design a foot monster. Too on the nose i guess.
@@exquisitedoomlapointe185 Mother of Toes
@@exquisitedoomlapointe185 From's devs probably had to compensate by inserting a 8 sec close up on Miquella's feet
Love how the phase 2 theme is much less intense but much more eerie and takes inspirations from the wave recordings of black holes
Its like the black hole ability just sucks the music away.
For me it just sounds like an airplane flying overhead far up, everytime i hear it in a background video of her i always check if it is some airplane flying above or just the "music".
100% this boss smells crazy
Probably like burnt ozone with a spritz of Eldritch Macrocosm from COCO De Chanel
Try fingers,
but hole.
@@gawkingoblinDamn, this was genius foreshadowing placing all these fake player messages around the base game 🤯
@@allthe1holy shit you’re right. This is the prophesied fingers, but hole!
Nothing could smell worse than the putrescent knight
you know, many pieces of media replicated Lovecraft's work and descriptions in an attempt to create some scary monstrocities, only for those to end up looking kinda genric in an "another gross tentacle movie monster that doesn't really feel disturbing or induce the primal fear" way
but FromSoft designs are perhaps the most accurate portrayal of the unknown, otherwordly and primally terrifying
we really need a FromSoft game where you go around slaying eldritch horrors (another one!)
I think its because most things make eldritch things so alien and different to what we normally see that we just don't really get it, Fromsoft and a few of the other good designs always make sure to include something human or at least natural, which might cause your reaction to be more unnerved because those things shouldn't have those things.
Bloodborne is still undefeated at this
Fromsoft definelty knows how to portray gods from other worlds
@@notusingmyrealnamegoogle6232 i think bb did go a bit stereotypical here and there, but they did pop tf off with the amygdalae
Basically bloodborne 3? Because fromsoft is giving us bloodborne 2 within elden ring already.
What horrifies me is how the Fingers seem to be bursting out of her in places where they shouldn’t be popping out of… almost like she’s brimming with the things, riddled with countless ectopic pregnancies that she shouldn’t be having. Like her DNA, her very code, has gone completely haywire. Seems to me like Ymir was right.
Does it "horrify" you?
Ymir was right about what? 😮
@@matiasreyesbettancourt2488The core itself is rotten. Or „unsound“ as he says
She has been maimed by Fingerslaying Blade! That is the crime of Nox/Numen that made Greater Will so irate at them. They tried to kill his daughter. But only managed to maim her.
My guess is after being abandoned she just went completely haywire.
A face only a parent could love.. Oh wait even the parent abandoned it
Damn
😢
who was this mother?
@@embla2357 Greater Will
But not the golden order Apparently
An interesting detail is how, amongst all the other similarities she has to the Elden Beast, both their tails reflect the trees of their respective lands.
Metyr's tail is a dead ringer for the Scadutree. With two "trunks" wrapped around each other before splitting near the top. It's an interesting association for Metyr to have.
I hadn’t thought of this parallel before, that’s fascinating
Based on descriptions in the game, the spiral is the symbol of the crucible and the spiral motif is seen in the Scadutree, Metyr's tail, Romina's tail, the tower of Belurat, and probably a couple other places.
The spiral is the best way to communicate with the gods. It's why the hornsent made the tower have spirals to better commune with the outer gods. So im guessing the spiral shape acts as an antenna.
At 5:20 she is also making a shape with her tail fingers reminiscent of the rune arc or even the divine gate.
@@michaelostergren3516 Placidusax's heads are also in a spiral, waiting for his god to return (I don't think its happening buddy)
It's still wild to think that this is basically the older sister of the Elden Beast..
Elden beast: cute spacewhale with tiny arms
His older sister: the roughest handjob of your life
The Elden Beast is a sort of Dad/uncle
While Metyr is the daughter/niece
@venomark7883 nah, metyr was actually the first one sent by the greater will.
@@venomark7883She arrived before the Elden beast
@@bondrewd5935it's described in the elden stars incantation that the elden beast arrived on a meteor.
Metyr is described as coming to the lands between as a shooting star.
My headcanon: Metyr is the meteor Elden Beast rode to the lands between on.
Other studios: "Noooooo, we can't design dragons with 4 feet. That's too hard to animate!!!"
Fromsoft: "More fingers! MORE! And make each one wiggle individually!"
Ima be honest, I’ve never seen a company complain about having to design dragons. Elden Ring is basically just Dark Souls 3 but with open world so don’t act like they did anything crazy here in terms of animation or graphics. I say this as someone who loves the games and the company.
@@richizzle39 i think computer animation is significantly more work than you realize even with all of the shortcuts we have today
@@richizzle39it looks better than ds3 and u know it. I know what u mean tho
@@richizzle39i think its just hilarious when american devs have a fit about this game and all the praise, accolades, sales its getting
Then you see what they make and its some garbage app
@@richizzle39 OP was praising the love for details fromsoft puts in their games in comparison to other game studios. Like fingers wiggeling.
"How many times you died to (insert a boss name) ?"
"Only a few bro, you can count it with one hand."
The hand:
ZA HANDO DELETE HIS BALLS!!!
lmao thats a good one
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Miyazaki really took issue with people saying he's a foot guy.
“This will show them… this will show them all!” - Miyazaki, probably
Miyazaki: I am now Kira Yoshikage
The Greater Will was like: "Hey Marika, pull my finger."
And she did.
I always wanted to know the significance behind the symbolism of fingers. It does have a “hand of God” feel
@@Devin7Eleven The significance seems to be intelligence. The ability to manipulate objects and use tools is what usually gives rise to higher intelligence in animals. This is true for things like octopi and dolphins... as they *do* manipulate objects without fingers... but nothing beats apes and our hands for intelligence. Fingers are OP.
😂
Just like the "Birth of Adam" lol
@@trustmeits610pm2 And this concept is strengthened by the dragon-beasts lore in Farum Azula, when it is esplictly narrated that it was by the evolution of fingers that they became intelligent (you can see burials similar to the one of the first populations of men)
A thought entered my mind about why Caria Manor was home to a bunch of the fingercreepers, and just like that I found the answer: The Carians studied the stars, gaining sorcery from the cosmos… and where did the fingercreepers come from….? It probably felt like the closest thing to home for them.
And it explains why there are some in the Mountaintops of the Giants because that’s where the astrologers were once in the past.
Yup. And also, don't forget where you find her. Cathedral of Manus Metyr.
And where do you take the final steps for ranni's quest? Cathedral of Manus Celes.
@@DestroyDEI oh wow, I forgot the name of that place! I knew the word, or title, “Manus” made an appearance in the base game and not just from Dark Souls. Also, does “Metyr” mean anythi- wait… as I was typing the word, it could’ve autocorrected it to “Meteor”. Met-e-or
Manus Metyr = Hand Meteor 🧐
EDIT:
Metyr = Mother
Metyr = Meteor
Metyr = Martyr
Metyr = Matron
Lots of speculation… just as the developers intended.
@@DestroyDEI also there was the two fingers in manus celes too.
@@Eximius_Lex meytr just means mom from quick google search...
@@Eximius_Lexmetyr means mother not meteor lol that's a false cognate.
then. we gonna wait for Fetyr, The mother of Feet
Miyazaki's magnum opus
But we already have Sellen?
Mother of toes*
Let us meet again as stars.
It's just a 3d model of Miyazaki
- Sir we found another dead tarnished in the middle of nowhere. It's the 48th this week.
- Good Elden Lord, we might have another cosmic entity on the loose......any fingerprints ?
- Yeah about that......
3:45 Something about the fingers tearing their way out of her flesh gives me shin Godzilla vibes, great boss design
So the guidance of the two fingers are just basically guesses of metyr because the greater will pretty much just fucked off eons ago, great lore
She is damaged and can't contact Greater Will not like being abandoned by it
I guess Metyr is a good enough substitute? She looks… wise enough.
The assumption here is that she was ever in communication with this "Greater Will" at all.
She was willing to lie about communicating with it for who knows how long. Why would you expect that she was ever honest about this communication in the first place?
She came to the Lands Between and started spreading her religion seemingly at first contact with the denizens of the land. She's an evangelist. Exactly the sort of figure Miyazaki has always treated with a great deal of skepticism.
Did the Greater Will know that Metyr was damaged and she couldn't conmunicate with them anymore? Was the Elden Beast like a second more successful attempt of a divine being sent by the Greater Will to the Lands Between to correct Metyr's errors in the golden order?
@@rainbowkrampusthe staff explicitly says that she received messages but at some point stop
I like the idea(from Ratatoskr’s stream) where a thousand years into the future, Metyr finally receives a message and it’s just:
“Okay, all Placidusax has to do is…”
Greater Will is typing...
it seems like based on this design, the fingercreepers are a malformed result of her injuries? Maybe that’s why there’s no new two fingers being created, because since her injury she can only produce fingercreepers
It looks like they are growing through her skin, all the additional fingers are malformed creepers trying to force their way out.... unsettling to say the least.
@@blizzardgaming7070 Or is that a result of the injury? Sort of like the shamans growing malformed when injured?
If you look at her tail, the wounds there are also growing Two Fingers, as is the wound on her shoulder.
As is her massive "stomach" wound.
It looks like she less births new Fingers as more simply divides her own essence into new Fingers.
@@FaeQueenCory it looks to me like the two fingers are growing inside her like parasites, and are coming out of her body similar to something like a botfly.
Yeah, she' seems infected by a space mushroom just like Ymir
Elden Ring's obsession with fingers only matched by Bloodborne's obsession with eye balls
None come close to Miyazaki’s obsession with feet.
Dark Souls 4 will be literally nothing but feet at this rate.
They really nailed how gross hands and fingers can be if you stare at them long enough.
Just the other day I was staring at my fingers and I was like "What the fuck even are these?"
Like Facehuggers
One of FromSoft's best pieces of music. Beautiful, otherworldly, trepadatious, like staring into the actual cosmos.
I wonder if perhaps she isn't growing out new fingers so much as they are parasitising her. They seem to resemble maggots in a wound, some of them even lifting off skin, which could be why she is referred to as "broken". They're also pointing up towards the orb in her tail, which I see as her connection to the Greater Will.
Perhaps they were trying to "usurp" her connection for some reason? It does sort of tie into what Ymir said about the "roots" or fingers themselves being corrupted from the start...
Ahh Metyr, or some say Metr. Do You hear our prayers? Grant us fingers. Grant us fingers. (Grant us Bloodborne 2.)
OOOOOHHhhh YeEESSSss, a Tarnished is a Tarnished, even in the Realm of Shadow!..
I don't want finger on my insides
@@augustomegalindo that's what they all say
@vaati.etrenia nah just the ones that aren't gay.
@@Kspice9000 who said gays don't like fingies
Since Metyr was the first and from the Cinquedea item description we learn that five fingers is the sign of intelligence, I wonder if Metyr’s purpose was to give life intelligence after the Greater Will separated itself from the One Great and then the Elden Beast’s purpose was to establish order. Once those goals were accomplished, the Greater Will cut off communication.
+1 Insight
the head looking like a big thumb with an iris that looks like a d-pad really lends to the theory that there's some kind of meta connection between the fingers and players' hands on a controller.
Kid named finger
Mom named finger:
Ymir… put your bells away Ymir… I’m not having fingercreepers with you right now Ymir
Walthu
Mommy*
"I'm not going to be your consort waltuh"
weird finger soldier mother from Spy Kids at back day
Oh I wish you hadn't said that.
Never unseeing that. Fuck you, and take the like.
This is the finger soldiers baby momma
Metyr is the mother to the Two Fingers and fingercreepers so the Three Fingers of the Frenzied Flame is just a mockery of the Greater Will putting a middle finger to it.
I dunno, maybe they were birthed of Metyr but faulty somehow? We'll never really know.
@@anaguma90maybe she had the three fingers when the nox cut her belly and it caused it to be defective
@@darkomihajlovski3135why the nox
The god of frenzyed flame seems more likely to have born when the GW created life, in that moment with life itself the desire to stop suffering was born along side it, the flame is the personification of the desire to never been born, in order to end one suffering forever, thats why the frenzy appear in the eyes of pleple that have suffered a lot and only want the suffering to stop.
@@D3athL1vin im guessing because of the hidden treasure of nokstella, which is the FINGER slayer blade, and the people of nokstella are the nox (idk how theyre called)
The more I look at Metyr, the more she has the same deity-like aura just like the Elden Beast since both of them came from beyond the Greater Will and the finger mother here seems to be the sort of messenger for the greater will to convey it's messages so it can transfer it to the fingers in the Lands Between so the people there can interpret, primarily the Finger Readers
I think just like Marika and Miquella, she seems like physical body that has been abandoned. And since Shadow realm used to work as somewhat like afterlife, which is why she located here and under the water(unlike elden beast has sky-like arena)
Astel: I'm the greatest eldritch abomination in the game!
Metyr: hold my fingers!
Excuse me, waiter? There seems to be some Bloodborne in Elden Ring DLC
Yes sir, the head chef decide to put some Sekiro in there as well. For your enjoyment....
Give him my regards when you can, thank you.
Nah they need to make a spiritual sequel to BB like Dark Souls was to Demon Souls. My vote is they make it pirated themed
It reminds me Ebreitas so much!
@@JoseViktor4099 Pirate souls, Pirate souls, Pirate souls
For some reasons it reminds me of the mergo's wet nurse despite looking nothing like it
Long neck.
Reminds me way more of Ebrietas, with both being abandoned and well, daughters of something greater
@@gladiusbladeofthenorth9939My headcanon since the game came out and seeing Astel is that this is just a Bloodborne prequel Michael created to prep us for Bloodborne 2. We have beast people and Eldritch abominations. We have Winter Lanterns and madness. Crazy deities and stuff with the moon. Thousand Years Voyage of the Stars under the moon? And so begins the Paleblood. This is my happy place LOL
@@LegaltTOlmao massive reach
@LegaltTO way massive reach.
Architecture and era they are in is a blatant giveaway.
why did it take me so long to realize that the Greater Will is probably a literal Godhand?
To think that Greater Will, an outer god, would be running away from child support
I think it is more that their connection has been severed by Fingerslaying Blade. It is not voluntary abandonment.
This was a "Wtf is that, WTF IS THAT!?" Moment.
Metyr must’ve been a nightmare to rig and animate. Props (and condolences) go out to the artists and animators
Ma, there's a creepy scorpion 'cross the yard!
(edit: lmao i didn't expect my random thought catching the rest of you XD have fun peeps)
It looks like grandma the fuckin thing!
I don't want it startin a fight with Lucy!
Creepiest thing in the DLC for sure. That arena, that eldrich abomination. Abyssal Woods were a kindergarden compared to this.
I'd like a mod which changes appearance to just be a one giant middle finger.
How do you know it's a middle finger?
The maddening 3 fingers.
The wise 2 fingers.
The absolutely friggin' fed up 1 finger. THE FINGER.
This thing takes Yonic to a WHOLE nother level.
Notice how she only has 4 fingers, and linking back to an item desc that suggests that 5 fingers are what represents intelligence, its clear to say that Metyr might have been broken from the very start
Another great lovecraftian design, Fromsoft artist are holding the bar since first King's Field.
Were there lovecraftian designs in King's Field? I have only played Soulsbornekiroring so far
it just occurred to me that metyr's skin is mottled black, blue, purple, red--
all colors that you get when you break a finger/hand/foot
she is ***literally*** broken
That silly helicopter move is the funniest thing in the whole Souls-series to me, and that's a hard bar to clear.
One funny detail is that she doesn't have thumbs, but the Elden Beast does.
I swear, this boss really thinks it’s the Self Embodiment Of Perfection smh
it's kind of pitiful. she was sent down to this world to be a guide for her own kin and for all life, but she was abandoned and left to rot-- presumably succumbed to a similar madness as rennala, having lost any purpose aside from birthing new fingers, each and all bereft of purpose.
her children themselves were deprived of guidance from their mother or their cosmic creator, forever stuck trying to fix a world they didn't seem to fully understand, while their own chosen god worked against them. little wonder that the three fingers saw the entire microcosm as a mistake to be rectified
Or even better- if they never come to this world none of all these bull shits will ever happen, how about that?
Like why are you victimize these cosmic freaks?
she wasnt abandoned, she basically had a wifi connection with the greater will but presumably it looks like the nox used the finger slaying blade on her which damaged her enough for her to not be able to hear the greater will anymore
@@fuwamiusagiThe Fingerslayer was made from a corpse. I wonder what the corpse was.
Welcome back Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos
Most likely her cousin
@@miriamemanueleforneris3701 More like her father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate.
Hey, Ebrietas, come get your sister, I think she's in the wrong game.
Internal Name: FingerNursery
I'm rolling on the floor.
I wonder if she always was so asymmetric or if she got twisted in time.
5:32 The microcosm is named "Sun" in the files, so at 5:11 shes praising the sun!
Do you think Rykard leaves fingercreepers at the same kindergarten where Metyr leaves the fingers?
Metyr is cited as being the mother of the fingercreepers too. They both come from her.
@@Spagoo.Aka.TheBlackKnight Yeah, should have double checked. My bad.
What a stellar design, there's so much to analyze and adore about it! What I find to be a particularly nice touch is how the bottom part of the golden ring surrounding the microcosm is much brighter than the rest of it, giving it the appearance of a rune arc.
Notice how, besides the head, everything about her is made of sets of two fingers. The 4 fingered hands are two sets of two fingers stitched together, the legs are also many sets of two fingers.
Ohhh no wonder she doesn’t have a “thumb”. Don’t know why that detail stood out to me but i found it unsettling
Heard people say this fight happens underwater, in the Elden Beast arena
The comic horror boss I was looking for. God the soundtrack is immaculate- equal parts rapturous and terrifying.
I used to wonder where all those fingers in the lands between came from.... and now? I wish i hadn't
As someone who loves space, having a quasar as an attack automatically makes Metyr an A tier boss. Seriously, you can't get any cooler than that. And the fact that her death animation is just being sucked into a black hole is something else
This bosses arena takes "try finger, but hole" to the next level
phase 2
*"Behold, hole!"*
tarnished: 👁👄👁
Brother, get the Flamer!
*THE HEAVY FLAMER!*
the FRENZIED flamer
I saw a diagram yesterday that says that the wound seemingly originating from a missing wrist on the finger creepers is actually from the removal of the tail (two) fingers, which either die or become their own Two Fingers.
Hands in AI art be like
The Sphere helded by Metyr is called sun, but the Greater Will is described as an Abyss of Knowledge with fits the description of a black hole
Black Holes are the final stage of massive stars cycles
Maybe the Greater Will actually WAS a Star, but something made it collapse and transform into a Black Hole. And the moment it "Collapsed", it stopped sending signals.
Finding her at the end of Ymir quest was so fucking wild. I hadn't gotten spoiled by anything yet. What a revelation
"Everything reminds me of her"
The reminder:
So, basically... she has the "Power of the Sun at the tip of her Fingers" !! Amiright ?!
booooo! i love this comment its great but also boooooooo!!!
Am I crazy for thinking that Metyr's front body looks like it was slashed, and that it closely matches the shot from the story trailer from where Marika pulls the golden threads?!
Is Marika the one who "broke" Metyr by severely injuring her and taking from her something divine that she used to commune with the GW?
The eyeball is interesting with that symbol like pupil.
Also yeah this thing is totally the reason the nox’s created the finger slayer blade in the first place I’m calling now!
The music in general in the DLC was a step up from the base game, but both Metyr and Dancing Lion had *perfect* music. Truly elevated the experience.
This boss and Midra are probably the closest I'll ever get to playing bloodborne 😔
Ahh Sony, or some say PlayStation... Do you hear our prayers? As you once did for the Demon's Souls, grant us remake, grant us remaster...
I don’t understand, You can’t get a ps4?
@richizzle39 I mean, I can. Bloodborne is the only Playstation exclusive that i find appealing. The rest aren't really my cup of tea, and getting a ps4 just for one game alone seems kinda financially irresponsible. Also, even though I reeeeaally want to play bloodborne, what if I don't love the game when I actually get to play it? Or maybe it's just amazing and I overthink too much lol idk
Ps4s are dirt cheap, and so is a used copy of Bloodborne
@mrpositronia not for a college student lol. We be struggling for scraps out here
Truly disgusting design, I love it
I wish things didn't always have to end in a fight in Elden Ring.😂
She could use a hug.
Ebrietas: Got left on read huh? First time?
Now we know why the creation of the finger club was an act of blasphemy
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The fact she is called "Finger Nursery" in the game files is both funny and disturbing XD
since so much of Elden Ring is based on the Rebis, and how godhood is obtained by the conjoining of male and female elements, Marika and Radagon, The Promised Consort, joining of the Sun and Moon, and so everything is guided by the two fingers. For all of creation, there was always two. Even the hornsent's beloved spiral utilizes this theme. Then I look at Metyr and notice a fascinating artistic detail, the wound on her chest is her birthing canal, while her head behaves more as a phallic instrument than a tool for communication, shes literally a Hermaphrodite.
Mother of Dragons: "Are you challenging me?"
Mother of Fingers: "Yes."
Damn, I can't even read this joke without remembering the last seasons, fuck D&d 💔.
@@abdelrahman788 when it’s been 5 years you really know it’s time to move on…
Microcosm in simple terms means little world, so its likely that the microcosms she creates and retreats in are portals to other worlds or places.
Metyr is literaly supposed to be the hand of god (the greater will), yet you can see it is cut off and is so twisted it barely looks like a hand anymore. How can such being guide and delegate to lesser beings? When Marika brandished the Elden ring and founded the golden order, it was corrupted from the very beginning, just as metyr.
I'm almost certain that the fingerslayer blade was first used against Metyr, in a failed attempt to destroy it.
And if youre high on the speculative copium, maybe the treason mentioned on the blade was against Marika and Metyr.
"FingerNursery" makes her sound like a straight up Silent Hill enemy
I gotta say. I think that's too many fingers
"Black hole sun, won't ya come..."
A twisted and malformed aberration, yet with the raw power of the cosmos at the tip of it's fingers (Heh). Interesting that some of it's abilities are related to and/or inspired by real life cosmic phenomena. Take the big magic sphere for example: anyone with eyes will see that it looks like a black hole, and when it does that big double gravity laser attack, I am reminded strongly of a quasar or a pulsar.
And the boss itself looks quite a bit like if the pillars of creation nebulae was a creature of flesh and blood. Interesting implications, no?
"Hello? Greater Will?"
1:58 SLIIIIIDE TO THE RIGHT
1:17 girl really said cOOCHIE BLAST
Metyr is so beautifully grotesque, she might be my most favorite boss in terms of design in Elden Ring, as least when it comes to the cosmic horror aspect of it. This really just makes me want more of Bloodborne, or really just another Soulsborne game mostly focusing on cosmic horror elements because FromSoftware is insanely good at designing horrifying lovecraftian gods.
This thing wandered straight out of the world of Scorn
There is something unsettling about this but I can’t put my finger on it.
Ever since Solaire tried fingers but hole, that’s is the sun he’s been dreaming off 😢