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  • Ever wondered if there was more to Domhnall? In this episode of Dark Souls Lore we delve into some curiosities surrounding this character and explore what might lie beneath his charm.
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  • @Hawkshaw
    @Hawkshaw  2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

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    • @Baltiquee
      @Baltiquee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Elden ring reference?!?!

    • @bruschetta7711
      @bruschetta7711 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Interesting detail i found about the gauntlets of his set, "their gold bracelets symbolize a vanquisher"
      I heard the item name somewhere else and they are the ones of the Nameless King, of all the things, afterall he is a vanguisher, a God of War, and Dormhall knows a lot about Ancient dragons and the people that seek to become one
      About Dragons the travelling merchant from DS2 is incredibly has all kinds of tiny similarities with Dormhall, and he is interested about one seemingly useless but very rare treasure, a petrified egg, then you can join the way of the dragon covenant that lets you become a dragon

    • @dampin5813
      @dampin5813 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are my favourite lore channel. Much love and keep on keeping on. X

  • @redalchemy7322
    @redalchemy7322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4445

    The concept of the bottomless box as some sort of Lovecraftian malevolent entity that consumes the "collection" and sanity of the person who fills it. Then becomes a mimic hungry for more after consuming their host is an amazing idea.

    • @a.whyattmann5057
      @a.whyattmann5057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +157

      Definitely a mind = blown moment for me

    • @UstashaMe84
      @UstashaMe84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Oh yeah that’s a goodie! 🤣

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      I always thought Mimics were items exposed to white stones that harm the gods or the dark.
      Given the Occult club being in a mimic- ether the club turned it mimic or it was a way to get rid of people.
      Seath’s place, and a few others- and the DLC felt that they were naturally made.
      Think the forest with living trees but if the wood remained alive- like the Dragon scales and moved or possessed the chest

    • @mr.hanfblatt9152
      @mr.hanfblatt9152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      dont we know that mimics are cursed remnants of a forgotten race that was cursed because they were too greedy? they might have "invented"/discovered the bottomless box and because they all started filling them due to their greed the box started consuming them, turning them into mimics?

    • @vde1846
      @vde1846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It's very similar to one of the creation myths of "lindormen" (the Linden Snake/linnorm).
      If one covets wealth, you can kill an adder and place its body in a bowl of fresh milk, and bury it under the roots of the ward-tree of your farmstead (often a linden tree). This spell will bring great wealth to you, but at a price. Since your gold has come to you through unnatural means, it is paramount that the wealth is shared (important even with rightly gotten gains), for every coin that you hoard makes the snake grow larger. Should you forget your debt, and keep it all for yourself, the snake will grow monstrous; one day it will burst out of the ground to lay waste to your farm, eat you, and steal your treasure back.
      This is one of the reasons a dragon might be guarding a treasure, since the dragons of Norse myth are just monstrous snakes.

  • @Opofake
    @Opofake 2 ปีที่แล้ว +986

    I had never thought about it, but halfway through the video I realized that Domhnall may just be trying his best not to go hollow.
    We've seen Laurentius, Griggs, Crestfallen and many others go hollow after losing their way.
    Andre tells us his purpose is being a smith, as such, with so many "chosen undeads" he will remain there, for his job as a blacksmith has yet to be completed.
    As for how this relates to Domhnall, well, his purpose is being a collector. By getting to different locations in Lordran and sharing information with us *after* we have proved to have the ability to be useful on his quest to collect "trinkets and oddities", he's ensuring that his collection will grow bigger and as such, that he won't go hollow.

    • @Oreca2005
      @Oreca2005 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      So… just like any game collector
      Or never ends
      But ir gives us legacy and a fun hobby even if it’s very expensive

    • @scratch472
      @scratch472 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      I do love how Andre has no conflict in his story, simple “I like smithing so I’m gonna do it.”

    • @monke12354
      @monke12354 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Oreca2005"legacy" lol

    • @user-qo7pz7qt5m
      @user-qo7pz7qt5m 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      What an excellent observation.
      As it goes, a collector ...
      Never stops collecting.

    • @dsvd4727
      @dsvd4727 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      The biggest proof of that is Patches. He will never go hollow because the purpose he chose is to troll people, and fools will never go extinct, that let him live through whole series up until the literal end of the world in ds3

  • @NourArt02
    @NourArt02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +582

    After going through the hell that is The Depths, meeting Domhnall and hearing his uplifting salute kinda made me happy, even if he just wanted my souls.

    • @theblancmange1265
      @theblancmange1265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      On my first playthrough I got poisoned and ran out of heals in the Depths.
      When I found Domhnall, I panic bought stuff before I died.

    • @Ostr0
      @Ostr0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@theblancmange1265Domnhall knows we can at least die twice judging from his Dialogue I think he's trying to figure just how many times your willing to deal with after the third death.

  • @thekingofrockin7944
    @thekingofrockin7944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1999

    So basically Domhnall is the embodiment of “Every age is tainted by the greed of men”

    • @muramasa870
      @muramasa870 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Damn...

    • @gabiroto2549
      @gabiroto2549 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got it bro! i really did! ;)

    • @auto1nfanticid3
      @auto1nfanticid3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      his greed is virtuous compared to the motivations of most of the other characters in darksouls.

    • @mr.kittysavestheworld695
      @mr.kittysavestheworld695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@auto1nfanticid3 I wouldn't say "virtuous," necessarily, "pure" is probably a better word.

    • @auto1nfanticid3
      @auto1nfanticid3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@mr.kittysavestheworld695 well patches is pure, but in a shitty way. whatever Domnhall is doing in the background he is at least aiding the player character.

  • @jdhi5279
    @jdhi5279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +729

    This guy, for me, was such an uplifting feeling meeting him. His voice, the colors he wore, the choice of styling. I felt so safe near him lol But at the same time, I always thought he was patches.

    • @Jenzible
      @Jenzible 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Same but it couldn’t be as they can both be spotted at firelink

    • @moogiibat5845
      @moogiibat5845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Patches would have hated him with every drop of his blood

    • @amergingiles
      @amergingiles ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Proof, that your ancestors stood upright." - Where Birds Go To Sleep

    • @loganross1861
      @loganross1861 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah and the sewers were such an anxiety inducing nightmare the first times I played this game. He made it something surreal and hopeful.

    • @angelolagussa1312
      @angelolagussa1312 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@loganross1861you people either never go outside or love hyperbole.

  • @LostCosmonauts
    @LostCosmonauts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +725

    A video about Domhnall of Zena just reaffirmed my love for Laurentius, but good video all around!

    • @tevenbenn3175
      @tevenbenn3175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Could it be that Laurentius is actual best boi?

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@tevenbenn3175 was that ever even a question?

    • @Graysett
      @Graysett 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@stingerjohnny9951 Only to those blinded by a sun.

    • @Grimstroker
      @Grimstroker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      do you still play dota?

    • @rzNeedsABmw
      @rzNeedsABmw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i miss your Only Way to Play guides. those were the days when dota was actually fun

  • @jacobfreeman5444
    @jacobfreeman5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2251

    He is a collector. This is the obsession that keeps him sane. I don't see him as cold but as a man with a self made mission which keeps him from going hollow. He is an example of how someone who has lived as an undead long enough can become a little odd. He holds no ill towards anyone who holds no ill towards him. But why should he help those who will not help him? That may seem rather selfish. But such selfishness is how one survives. The idealistic and noble may break and die before the nihilism of the void but the selfish can continue on because they have something that gives their lives meaning.

    • @johnsmith-xw7hv
      @johnsmith-xw7hv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      Lol not giving a crap let's you live longer look at Patches lol

    • @Hedonkeviik
      @Hedonkeviik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      That is by definition, cold.

    • @baklapjr
      @baklapjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      @@johnsmith-xw7hv ahh Patches, you are truly unbreakable.

    • @sandrin0
      @sandrin0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      altruism *is* a thing, you know

    • @barneybetsington7501
      @barneybetsington7501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Edgy.

  • @Sentay0
    @Sentay0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    During the talk about mimics midway I realized something about Domhnall's helm, when the mimic grabs you it pulls you in head first, perhaps the horns on the top of the helm are more about protecting from this then any blade.

    • @AS34N
      @AS34N 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Super dope idea

  • @sirdanielfortesque5812
    @sirdanielfortesque5812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +563

    I also wondered about Domhnall, got as far as asking a friend why his helmet seems familiar and he said Henry VIII had a similar one. But Hawkshaw wasn't satisfied and kept questioning, and that's why we love you!

    • @monkeysk8er33
      @monkeysk8er33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Yeah this guy always threw my through a loop. He's too mysterious. It always seemed odd that he's just sitting there, selling things. He must clearly have ties with Seeth.

    • @LoDart210
      @LoDart210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      BACK AGAIN FROM THE DEAD I SEE?!

    • @jeffcarroll1990shock
      @jeffcarroll1990shock ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A world filled with death and misery brought on by an obsession with a fire and you hyperfocus on a typical shopkeeper? So what if you only cares about what you can give to him? At least he's being honest. Domhnall lives in a world where it's either kill or be killed. be useful or be used. be a trickster or get tricked. In a world where you're only as good as the weapons and armor you have you might find it very useful to deceive the ones around you just so you can live a few seconds longer. He's not a pyromaniac who gives you a piece of his own soul just because you talk to him or a magician who tells you you're too stupid to learn any sort of spells. He's a businessman.

    • @sunnyjim1355
      @sunnyjim1355 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Henry VIII had a similar one". I didn't know that so looked it up... and it's absolutely true.. it even has spectacles on it! And, as we all know, Henry VIII was a Tudor, which was a Welsh family dynasty. So, all this is obviously not coincidental. Fantastic. 👍

  • @ImNotSleep
    @ImNotSleep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1128

    This character might be a reflection of the player. Showing us all the things that Patches may see in us that arrouses his disgust.

    • @jdhi5279
      @jdhi5279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      Ooh that's good. I like that idea.

    • @kianalvizo6407
      @kianalvizo6407 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Ooh that's good. I like that idea.

    • @EldersVault
      @EldersVault 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Ooh that's good. I like that idea.

    • @TrafficMan7
      @TrafficMan7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Ooh that's good. I like that idea.

    • @spoodurmin9742
      @spoodurmin9742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Ooh that’s good. I like that idea.

  • @lepistanuda
    @lepistanuda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +407

    I always thought Domnalls armour was chucked together piecemeal from stolen armour picked off dead bodies and left abandoned

    • @rossdavis4587
      @rossdavis4587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Domnall rolls need whenever the best loot drops.

    • @mrtoxicwasteland
      @mrtoxicwasteland 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      The helmet alone suggests a plundered museum or royal heirloom of a king.

    • @Cantread807
      @Cantread807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same actually

    • @bruschetta7711
      @bruschetta7711 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He sells the armor of bosses we defeat, wouldn't really be surprised

    • @scumbagjesus999
      @scumbagjesus999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same

  • @Geebees93
    @Geebees93 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    You dropping off the bridge onto the ledge to where domnhall was blew my mind. I always jump to it from below.

  • @ofcatarina
    @ofcatarina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +135

    I think I have an interesting bit to add to this now that you've done most of the hard work lol You always find him in places that are hard to get to. And under the aqueduct he mentions that he didn't expect to meet anyone there and gives you that throw away line of "great minds" in a rather nervous manner. I do believe everything you've revealed about his personality is spot on although I'm beginning to think that the whole peddler story and role he is playing is a means of appeasing you because he thinks you might be a threat to him. You keep finding him in places he expects to be alone. Not a winning behavior for a peddler of any sort, being alone and hard to reach. And his tips while potentially helpful, do have a through-line of sending you to dangerous places. The cover story along with the tips give the impression that he would be happy to use you or be rid of you, but he wisely assesses you as a force he would rather redirect than confront head on.

    • @ACuteLilUFO
      @ACuteLilUFO 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      This is an amazing theory, I think you're really on to something here! It definitely fits with his kleptomaniacal/hoarding tendencies that he would be in dangerous or secluded places. Maybe his directing you to dangerous locations is so that he might collect your treasures once you're killed

  • @eisinger2
    @eisinger2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +635

    Yes! He's one of the characters I've always wanted to know more about, but there's so little lore on him.

    • @MatthewTheUntitled
      @MatthewTheUntitled 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Give them a ring and they will tell you THE ds lore, madmans

    • @noctsickversus9632
      @noctsickversus9632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MatthewTheUntitled is it the only way? Also is he really an undead?

  • @classica1fungus
    @classica1fungus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +443

    There should be a secret dialogue that only works if you approach him with Avelyn

    • @AdelizaNera
      @AdelizaNera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Is the Avelyn in DS1?

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

      @@AdelizaNera You didn't watch the video huh

    • @AdelizaNera
      @AdelizaNera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@greenhowie didn't get to the part where he mentioned it

    • @omarfelix5287
      @omarfelix5287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@AdelizaNera weak

    • @yuhyuh1471
      @yuhyuh1471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@AdelizaNera don’t worry about them, it’s fine to gloss over a detail

  • @FG-ww8rc
    @FG-ww8rc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    I always wanted to know more about the land of Zena. I also wish this armor set appeared in more games; it's my favorite in the series

    • @leahcarson1822
      @leahcarson1822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I actually planned for my elden ring character to be a merchant from zena!

    • @austinmccon2759
      @austinmccon2759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@leahcarson1822 that's cool

    • @kintaro6037
      @kintaro6037 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      i always thaught Domnhall is not from Zena and he stole his identity to keep his secret

    • @stormbringer8856
      @stormbringer8856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kintaro6037
      Excellent point.
      People have impersonated Havel, so why not others?

    • @greenhowie
      @greenhowie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If he were truly from Xena then he would use a chakram as a weapon.

  • @dwhutto
    @dwhutto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    This is why I love this channel, deep dives into lesser known characters is my jam

    • @grimmtheschoolaroffools2068
      @grimmtheschoolaroffools2068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeesssss

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Deep dives into any dark souls character then. ha ha.

    • @derausmpark
      @derausmpark 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You have to learn about Everything to understand Anything.

    • @MatthewTheUntitled
      @MatthewTheUntitled 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quick reminder: they prob have solved ds1 lore BASED ON A GODDAMN (pun intended hihi) RING

    • @leohero2270
      @leohero2270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MatthewTheUntitled What do you mean by this?

  • @MombaTrout
    @MombaTrout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +286

    We save Laurentius, Logan, etc. they are indebted to us. Domhnall is a merchant who is replete with souls and has a knack for peddling expensive equipment. A character who has the souls to purchase crystal weapons and repeatedly repair them would do so for the damage associated (we know he isn't doing much fighting anyways).
    He already gave you some equipment for your souls, and doesn't owe us anything more. Don't you slander my boy like this!

    • @SirGrimLockSmithVIII
      @SirGrimLockSmithVIII 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Aye, ye. DS1 also constantly makes it clear that we're not automatically the center of the universe and that these characters have their own lives that would continue without us. Domhall barely knows us and therefore doesn't really owe us anything.
      Also the pyromancies and sorceries we learn from Laurentius and Logan still cost souls. Their knowledge isn't strictly free either.

    • @cameronbaldwin3415
      @cameronbaldwin3415 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Yeah, he's treating us as a customer, which we are, and nothing else. Perfectly charming, polite, but he doesn't owe us anything, seeing as we didn't save him from anything, or provide anything but souls, how else should he treat us.

    • @platoscatboy9772
      @platoscatboy9772 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      *NPC doesn't kiss the floor the player walks on*.
      "IS THIS NPC ACTUALLY A HORRIBLE PERSON? THEORY!"
      Classic Soulsborne players lmao

    • @panmanteca5923
      @panmanteca5923 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, I still think he has something weird going on, but his attitude is perfectly fine

    • @Rukir
      @Rukir 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@platoscatboy9772The other classic soulsborne player: one that doesnt understand even the slightest bit of subtext. The theory doesn't have to be true, but you're ignoring that Miyazaki was deliberately cagey about details on him in interviews.. come on now

  • @Banana-senpai
    @Banana-senpai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Also, take a moment to appreciate the great work done with the subtitles.

  • @taliomerelli6298
    @taliomerelli6298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I can't get over that you just casually show you can get to his position near firelink without doing the jump lol

    • @LoDart210
      @LoDart210 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah but that also puts a hole in his last piece of circumstantial evidence, which is that the drop is a clue as to how to get Avelyn, and thus a clue to his true nature.
      It's a fun video, well put together and definitely makes him a more interesting character, but it's in no way a definitive answer.

    • @All4Randomness1
      @All4Randomness1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@LoDart210 It's still a risky drop to make lol. I don't see how it pokes a hole in the theory at all. Though of course things in this game are rarely definitive.

  • @comradecatbug5289
    @comradecatbug5289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I think Laurentius may deserve a video too. He may have clearer objectives and stronger resolve than appears, he just doesn't really talk about it. You find him in The Depths, but he never explains what he was doing there. He holds a cracked round shield, implying it has been used in battle. This is evidence that he fought his way into the Depths, and why would he venture there if not for an important objective?
    But what could that objective be, for what purpose did he risk his life and enter the Depths? Well, there is not much of interest in the Depths, at least not to Laurentius. As far as we know, he isn't interested in dragons or, um, sludge. So to him, the Depths must be a bridge, a stepping stone in his quest. And the Depths only has one exit: Blighttown.
    Laurentius was clearly trying to get to Blighttown, but what he sought there isn't as clear as his intentions of reaching the area. There are a few options:
    1. Laurentius' master was Carmina, who pioneered three self-buff type pyromancies. These were Iron Flesh, Flash Sweat and Power Within. Of these, Laurentius only has 2, and Power Within is located in Blighttown (remarkably close to the Depths, by the way). Laurentius was trying to retrieve a powerful pyromancy for his master.
    2. We know that Laurentius is from the Great Swamp (which is, for a million reasons I won't get into here, not Blighttown), but we don't know why he's roaming Lordran. Perhaps he was exiled. Laurentius himself says that "he never really got along with anybody." He also says that, because he didn't get along with people, turning undead didn't make a difference for him. But what difference could it have made to someone who did get along with people? Maybe undead were exiled from the Great Swamp, and since Laurentius didn't interact much with his community there either, it didn't really matter to him. But why is this relevant? Well, as an exile, he might be trying to find someone he can relate to. Someone else who was exiled from the Great Swamp. Eingyi.
    3. Laurentius is interested in pyromancy, and he wants to find Lost Izalith to learn more about it. This third hypothesis is really simple.
    What do you think? What is the most likely out of these three in your opinion? Or do you think there might be something else entirely? Feel free to reply and kindle this lore discussion.
    EDIT: I'm speculating about his original goal and motivation for going on dangerous adventures. I already know the ending of Laurentius' quest line.

    • @Zetro_Hermit
      @Zetro_Hermit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      If I recall correctly, the conclusion you seek is already a part of the game: If you talk to him while you have Pyromancies from the last daughter of chaos untransformed, who themselves is in the blighttown swamp, Laurentius asks you where you got it.
      If you tell him, he goes to seek it out, and by whatever means, he ends up completely hollow in that same blighttown swamp. Notably, you cannot find her, unless you have a grown pyromancy flame of at least +10 and up to its max of +15, and she offers the ability to Ascend it, much like Andre does for smithing. No one else offers this ability to ascend pyromancy flames past the +15 level cap, so it's safe to say that it is likely related to her status as a daughter of chaos, and possibly one of the last Flame Sorcerers, a practice which was either forgotten, or warped, when chaos consumed them.
      I presume that much like Laurentius himself tells us, and can be observed in game with how there is a different item description from the flame you can start with as a pyromancer, and the description of the one that he himself can give you: A pyromancers flame is a part of them, and it grows with them. Therefore, it could be a reflection of their own personal growth. We've already not only witnessed, but saved Laurentius from his own failure. If Laurentius hasn't achieved a high enough level of growth for himself and his flame, to reach +10 or higher, it may be impossible to see Quelana, or she may just choose not to reveal herself to those lacking "the fundamental framework", as I believe Logan says right?
      Thus, he goes hollow searching endlessly for her, trusting completely in what you tell him, that she is there, in one of the most treacherous and dangerous locations in Lordran, day after day. After all, he trusts us enough because we saved him to have given us a piece of himself, of his own flame. Someone less trusting likely would have refused to even attempt to go to such a dangerous place, let alone search it for such a mysteriously located...well, celebrity I suppose you could call her. The last human daughter of chaos, or perhaps at the very least the last sane one, since there is one just outside the Bed of Chaos. Why would anyone else but him take our word for it that such a famous and powerful force that shaped their very world, would be in the squalid disgusting depths of blightown? We could have gotten her pyromancies anywhere else. He could have left, and searched elsewhere. Instead, he eventually goes hollow there.
      Or worse...perhaps he DID find her, only for her to turn him away, because he was unworthy or incapable. Perhaps that was the final blow, that shook his will enough to make him hollow.

    • @waywardson911
      @waywardson911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Zetro_Hermit That was my conclusion, He was going to Quelana and got Hollowed after she refused to teach him due to his lack of skill

    • @comradecatbug5289
      @comradecatbug5289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Zetro_Hermit Yes, I know the end of his quest line. I'm only wondering about his original objective, which he never mentioned but clearly had.

    • @VERGILGASM
      @VERGILGASM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My theory is that you're supposed to free him, and that the person who captured him, and which tracks you in Blighttown, is Maneater Mildred. Not gonna mention how he mentions "she" trapping him, if I remember well.

    • @comradecatbug5289
      @comradecatbug5289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@VERGILGASM That's an interesting thought, but Laurentius doesn't say anything about being trapped. I believe the quote you're thinkning about is "I would've been her supper without you!" And here, "her" probably refers to the giant rat, as the butchers are dropping meat down the pit that leads to it/her. Still, it's an interesting connection to havve a butcher so close to Laurentius, even in Blighttown.

  • @eduard4046
    @eduard4046 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    that connection between bottomless box and mimics *chef kiss*

  • @diddymelone2265
    @diddymelone2265 2 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    so amazing how many stories are hidden in this game.

  • @HeadlessEmu418
    @HeadlessEmu418 2 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Wow, from the very wording of the items in the game, to the items themselves, the analysis, and the addition of new lore to the timeline of the game; this is why I love this franchise. Fine work, Hawkshaw, and thank you for your awesome content.

    • @skknireeker9073
      @skknireeker9073 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly, only DS 1 is so much intangled in itself. The other games of the Series are just crude Gameplay in comparison

    • @aoneko6813
      @aoneko6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@skknireeker9073 Agreed. DS3 is a great game but DS1 is just in a league of its own.

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree Dark Souls should've been a standalone! Miyazaki shouldn't compromise and instead should focus on solidifying this brand loyalty where every new IP will get the hype that a DS sequel would. I hope they stop working with sequels if Elden Ring is a success.

  • @Hawkshaw
    @Hawkshaw  2 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    Hey guys - we are looking for someone to work with that can help get us Elden Ring footage come release.
    This would allow us to streamline the lore hunting and ease the crunch period!
    If you would like to help please do reach out (discord works!) or let someone know who might want to help.
    Praise the Lore!

    • @drnough9047
      @drnough9047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you really need to stage a play through of dark souls, yet add all your lore theories as the story which unfolds, like a anime but done in the game, if that makes sense? it would be amazing if you could find a way to do this.

    • @vapaatahto6506
      @vapaatahto6506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would like to help, but I work a lot, hope you can find someone

    • @Brobro7SF
      @Brobro7SF 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I happen to have alot of time, a ps5, a capture card, and a preorder for elden ring. I love your lore videos for how in depth and detailed they are. They have shaped my way of thinking about this game. If i can help i would be more than happy.

    • @CigaretteCrayon
      @CigaretteCrayon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know you talked about King Jeremiah, so here's hoping Kirk is next.

    • @Irithyllian
      @Irithyllian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I plan on streaming it when I play it maybe I could make clips

  • @tristanjackson5343
    @tristanjackson5343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    I remember when you did the ash lake video and said it would be the final lore episode and that really sucked but at the same time I understood that people have to move on and continue new projects & goals like making a video game ;) your final video left a burning desire for more lore it’s so awesome to see these new uploads.

  • @genesis1784
    @genesis1784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is pure gravy. PLEASE keep it coming. After work the world is a jumbled mess that we try to make sense of. Your videos help making sense not just of the world of souls but the world we live in. Just like Miyazaki intended. GOD BLESS.

  • @jacobturner1490
    @jacobturner1490 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I don't think Seath tempted Domhnall, I think Domhnall set everything up in order to get Seath's special stash! "Aye siwmae! Sorry I caused the death of hundreds and got you locked in a tower forever, Havel, but I wanted a new shiney sword, uwu."

    • @justpassingbyy
      @justpassingbyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm kinda with you. Seath is a conniving villainous dragon but even those are often no match for a character that fulfills the archetype of the Trickster - those that have manipulated even gods and physical manifestations of elements and other wild things.

    • @Ostr0
      @Ostr0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@justpassingbyyWell maybe Seath the Scaleless offered his tail that houses the Moonlight Greatsword to him after he fulfilled his deal.

    • @Ostr0
      @Ostr0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@justpassingbyyWell maybe Seath the Scaleless offered his tail that houses the Moonlight Greatsword to him after he fulfilled his deal.

  • @pigpotty
    @pigpotty 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    Out of scraps of nothing, a vivid and essential part of the whole story. Amazing.
    The secret room in Anor Londo has an avarice chest in it. Does this have any lore significance? Do the others throughout the game? If anyone can find any significance, it’s gonna be this channel!

    • @drdrumon
      @drdrumon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      The secret room in Anor Londo is where you find Havel's gear. The mimic holds the occult club, a weapon which is used against the gods, so it is believed that this implies that Havel was secretly plotting against the deities, and was using the mimic as a way to safeguard his secret. I believe you also find a spell associated with Havel down in Ash Lake which further hints he was working with the Dragons. There is probably other evidence out there hinting at Havel's plot, but I am not sure.

    • @SteakfulDead
      @SteakfulDead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch the Ash lake episode

    • @MadaraUchiha-yu5vg
      @MadaraUchiha-yu5vg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A bit late, but the Grasp of Avarice always drops from the final Mimic in the playthrough cycle that you've found and killed. Whether or not this is anything that goes beyond gameplay functionality, I have no ideas on the item itself.

  • @missingindy
    @missingindy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    From what I’m seeing Domhnall is just like a regular shopkeeper, they’re kind and usually only talks to you about business (if you are a customer), and shopping more at their shop, the more familiar they get with the customer, and become more friendly with them as they know them more

  • @oisnowy5368
    @oisnowy5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Another weird thing... his collection, his collectables... what is he actually interested in collecting? Because the armours of the Lords are not interesting enough to _stay_ in his collection. He's willing to sell them.

    • @knieen
      @knieen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I like to think his obsession has grown so great that even the armor of legends like Artorias and Gwyn are not enough; he recognises their value, and perhaps keeps them for a while, but eventually loses all interest in them in the hopes of finding something greater. Like a spoilt child who gets much of what they want, Domnhall plunders loot and it keeps him content for a while, before tiring over it's rarity and looking for the next relic for his collection. Domnhall may be so deluded at this point that his fixation is now more on the duration between his next prize and less about the prize itself. Domnhall may even get to a point where discovering something like the entire Dark Soul would be a fleeting euphoria, given enough time

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@knieen So what you’re saying is he’s not addicted to his collection, but rather he’s addicted to the action of collecting?

    • @knieen
      @knieen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stingerjohnny9951 Yeah something like that. His collection was what he coveted most, but that constant coveting drew him towards simply wanting more for his collection, getting rarer and rarer prizes. Each new thing he added was disregarded when another new thing was added to his collection

    • @jacobfreeman5444
      @jacobfreeman5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hey, an undead has got to make a living. And I bet Domnell knows all too well his treasures will make their way back to him eventually. Because to stay sane as an undead takes an obsession. Something that lights a fire in your heart so you can weather the affects of the curse and the ravages of time. So why not lend out his treasures for a price since all too likely you will not be able to go for the long haul.

    • @knieen
      @knieen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jacobfreeman5444 The only problem is Domnhall’s obsession resulted in the deaths of however many were involved in the plot against the Gods. That being said, he isn’t an evil character, he’s more or less a selfish and uncaring undead. He doesn’t give a rats who you are or what you’re doing, if you’ve got souls you’re a friend to make a trade with. He is chaotic neutral in all matters: a trickster

  • @bitzovhadez7214
    @bitzovhadez7214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Oh wow, mind blowing stuff as usual. This game is just on a whole another level, a true marvel of human ingenuity. And we haven't even delved into the rest of the game's cast yet! Marvelous Chester, Alvina of the Darkroot Wood and the people around her, Kalameet, Griggs of Vinheim, the Darkmoon Knightess, that plug monster thing you encounter on the way to fighting Manus, just so many characters, so many details we're ignorant of.

    • @hellxapo5740
      @hellxapo5740 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The plug monster you are refering, do you mean that guy with chains holding his body against a sharp-tipped piece of a column? As if he was a battle ram? I believe I saw a video with information on the guy. I think it was from the channel Zullie the Witch? I don't remember clearly though.

    • @Ostr0
      @Ostr0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@hellxapo5740Yes he means that guy just before a bonfire.

  • @estusshart6470
    @estusshart6470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Tbh its insane just how much lore you can find in DS1 that just hasnt been uncovered. Amazing videos

  • @OneLikeOthers
    @OneLikeOthers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Thinking about it, just because the avelyn was originally inteded for Domhnall to weild doesn't mean that it wasn't connected to Eidas, especially if you consider how the character design of the latter is tied with it, perhaps originally they intended it to be one of the trinkets Seath would reward Domhnall with for contributing with the downfall of the plot against the gods.
    What more cruel way to break someone's will than to give the last link to their family to a person who only seea the material value in what they consider to be a mere good?
    Edit: for some reason i thought that commenting a few minutes before the end of the video was a good idea. 😑🔫

  • @LHelms
    @LHelms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Been waiting for this forever, saw it, got excited... then realized it doesn't premiere for 37 more hours.

    • @EggBastion
      @EggBastion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is time

  • @mortyzgaming
    @mortyzgaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Oh duuude!!! This just blew the plot against the gods wide open man!!! Now imma have to go back a rewatch everything!!

  • @Fleischdaemon
    @Fleischdaemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I liked to theorize that he discovered the secret of item dupling with his bottomless box. His collection is everything for him. So why would he sell his rare posessions? He also sells crystal weapons which brake so customers will have to buy them again. If you can duplicate these you're actually printing money. Maybe he's even from another world and can travel freely between time and space. That's why he seems to know everything and got his hands on the super rare stuff and why his set seems so out of place. These were my thoughts when i found out he's called the trickster.
    Of course your lore makes way more sense though and you kinda ruined it for me :D

    • @Deprexx
      @Deprexx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      U could b rite

    • @ramrodbldm9876
      @ramrodbldm9876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      This dudes word ain't no better than yours just cause he does TH-cam videos bro actually what you said makes alot of sense. This dude just talks about anything he wasn't part of fromsoftwares development on any of these games. He makes his own lore up sometimes and yall believe him over your own thoughts smh. He knows no more than you

    • @Fleischdaemon
      @Fleischdaemon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ramrodbldm9876 ofc I might be. But I'm a lazy fuck and didn't read Reddit for hours. I got nothing to back it up.
      I just wanted to share my take because it puts a smile on my face and I was pretty sure it would do the same to some of you fellow dark souls enthusiasts.

    • @aoneko6813
      @aoneko6813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Holy shit, I can't believe I read lore theory involving an item duping bug and didn't immediately think "what in the world is this guy on about". Only in Dark Souls.

    • @RenegadeShepard69
      @RenegadeShepard69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Ramrod bLDM yeah he is always stretching and milking the tits out of the (un)dead cow that is Dark Souls lore. I get that it's a mysterious game, but it's not like a Homeric epic is hiding in every NPCs three lines of dialogue as this youtuber makes it.
      It's the typical Soulsbourne obsessive fan in this channel that gets me, too many loonies going hollow over every fecking item description, it's stupid, I like depth but I can see the bullshit in here.

  • @pyoheliobros5773
    @pyoheliobros5773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    11 years after release and still such new insight into the game. I love it

  • @thekingbelow
    @thekingbelow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    AYE SIWMAE INTENSIFIES

  • @InternetHydra
    @InternetHydra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I came here for Domhnall lore and got a broad daylight revelation about mimics…

  • @loudvisions9156
    @loudvisions9156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Words cant describe how grateful I am that the mystery has been, more than likely, solved. This is masterful!

  • @danielchequer5842
    @danielchequer5842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Loved the stardew valley autumn song in the background!

  • @sroar64
    @sroar64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This lore video is insanely well put together, and I'm convinced!
    Goes to show how great these games are that a decade later people are still able to discern things like this.

  • @xXRickYXx9504
    @xXRickYXx9504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Its funny how this morning I was playing Dark Souls and saw this guy in the depths for the first time. I dont ever remember seeing him in my other playthroughs but wow great timing!

  • @KlaireMurre
    @KlaireMurre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    dark souls fans be like wow this character has 5 lines of dialogue let's make an entire novel about his life and what he eats for breakfast every morning

    • @panamajerky
      @panamajerky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      the unmatched passion of the fromsoft community is their best and worst quality

    • @KlaireMurre
      @KlaireMurre 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@panamajerky usually worst

  • @draexian530
    @draexian530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How could this be just as cathartic a showcase as the initial timeline? How?!

  • @kitsune9076
    @kitsune9076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Berserk music into hollow knight music... instant masterpiece of a video

  • @punkussion4676
    @punkussion4676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Like wtf hawkshaw? Why are you being so good to us with these weekly drops? We don't deserve you

  • @PvMIceCube
    @PvMIceCube 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the music you use, my ears immediately perked up at the Stardew Valley music

  • @666destroyr
    @666destroyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blowing my mind as always

  • @redfrog2275
    @redfrog2275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a wonderful dissection of one of my favorite character designs whose personality I have totally overlooked. This was such a great watch - thank you.

  • @DYNB
    @DYNB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm always amazed how much info you guys can gleam from tiny little tidbits of information. Awesome work!

  • @ilikeanimeverymuch
    @ilikeanimeverymuch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Noticed some inconsistencies. Laurentius indeed act nicer but it is due the fact that we have rescued him from Butcher of depths basically saving him from being undead porkchop meat, Logan would be held in inaccsible area in Sens fortress, Reah would have been forever trapped in tomb of giant. Other thing is that Domhnall name "world ruler" can be connected to fact that he also sells Gwyns set in new game + meaning he knows how to use convoluted time to obtain it. He doesn't care for us since we actually not did anything to him, we freed Lautrec hence he gives medal and help, we rescued Reah, Griggs, Logan, Laurentius, Dusk, we are potential candidate to help Ingvar, notice that Andre and other smiths also are not doing for free. He acts normally ... like any merchant would, he is glad to trade more but he doesn't care about customer private life + he doesn't know we rang two bells of awakening or anything, for him we are just undead who isn't yet hollow.

  • @nemen3014
    @nemen3014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Domhnall's gauntlets description rang me a bell. "The golden rings symbolize a vanisher". What does Highlord Wolnir, conqueror of kingdoms, wear?

    • @Lorenzo_I.
      @Lorenzo_I. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Vanquish, not vanish.

  • @christiankettlewell
    @christiankettlewell 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    When I think “trickster”, I think of Anansi the Spider. He’s hero and villain in those stories if I remember right

    • @xXDarkxIdealsXx
      @xXDarkxIdealsXx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      African myth is less popular/well known, but yeah good catch! Most people think characters like Loki, but there are definitely more out there.

    • @justpassingbyy
      @justpassingbyy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, same! The Trickster archetype can fulfill both hero and villain roles for the reason they do things may be known only to themselves

    • @wiilov
      @wiilov 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Anansi, Hermes, Loki, Prometheus (by technicality), Pan (by nature), Son Wukong, Maui- the old tales were far more nuanced than the more modern perception...at least in portrayal.

    • @ravenlover7924
      @ravenlover7924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is also the Trickster raven in native American mythology, who is depicted qs greedy, but still have their heart in the right spot.

  • @applesauce9982
    @applesauce9982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    best souls lore channel. Thank you for all your time and effort put in these videos.

  • @blestsauce9956
    @blestsauce9956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought Domhnall had more to him that what meets the eye but I never thought it went this deep, this video was great and you can tell how much effort it took, thank u

  • @TheDarkspektor
    @TheDarkspektor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hoooooly this is amazing! Even more pieces of info about the plot against the gods, an already unknown thing in the game, learned from a character overlooked

  • @yungoldman2823
    @yungoldman2823 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    High quality celeste music choice man, I love hearing that soundtrack anywhere anytime

  • @piratehunterreviews9958
    @piratehunterreviews9958 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Only half way through and this has made my night at work so much better enjoying this on breaks. 10/10 video

  • @anemptyspace
    @anemptyspace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for your work guys, these videos are the best thing ever. I normally have a lot of trouble falling asleep but your videos help immensely, I was listening to this yesterday and fell asleep quickly and easily. Don't ever stop ❤️

  • @SuperFroschi87
    @SuperFroschi87 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I should have known that even the Bottomles Box has lore.

  • @SteakfulDead
    @SteakfulDead 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude so glad you guys are back! Best lore content ever, the depth you guys go to is insane.

  • @geovannewashingtonashwood
    @geovannewashingtonashwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You take your time but now you're making us happy with so many content

  • @siddharthshakyawar2099
    @siddharthshakyawar2099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video and I love how you go to such depth in making these videos.❣

  • @ianwilliams2632
    @ianwilliams2632 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Finally! My favourite character in the game, specifically because of his mysterious, apparently sane cheerfulness. Merely a peddler of sorts... and a charming Welshman at the best of times. I love him.
    Thank you for this, it's sure to be another feast for the ears and eyes and heart.
    EDIT: Well that was entirely profound and totally unexpected.

  • @brettrichardson7924
    @brettrichardson7924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate your thoughts on things, you have a very delicate and specific way with words and I feel like you are a good source of info, keep up the good work man I would watch content you put out on anything even if it wasn't souls. I liked how you took the time to explain the difference between jokers and tricksters as mythology and common language get easily tangled and words lose meaning if we forget them.

  • @elreyes777
    @elreyes777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, I stumbled onto this video randomly and got hooked. Loved your look into him and the lore.

  • @TheVioletBunny
    @TheVioletBunny 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your takes on the lore always top notch

  • @JPresto
    @JPresto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Alright time for a domhnall cosplay character.

  • @maxhay9098
    @maxhay9098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been binging these amazing insights into lore, and throughout all of them I've been astounded by the excellent use of music from a myriad of soundtracks from a huge variety of video games, and love discerning the impact and relevance of the various songs to the topic at hand. It's an excellent display of a well travelled afficionado in the realm of video game soundtracks and their tones. Thank you for revealing to a fellow wanderer a multitude of new revelations in the most obtuse of video game lores, accompanied with the soundtracks that I too revel.

  • @TheAnnien
    @TheAnnien 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just amazing. Once again. Thank you for your hard work

  • @F_Franz
    @F_Franz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just last week I was thinking how shady of a figure he is, but I didn't think much of it, there is very little about him after all; or so i thought. Congrats on finding this much and putting it out in a way that makes sense!

  • @buredabby
    @buredabby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is a treat. Thanks lads.

  • @finnfarrell8069
    @finnfarrell8069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for making content. You are the best souls lore TH-camr I have ever seen

  • @chrizr2583
    @chrizr2583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow dude im really really impressed by the ideas u got there
    Never thought dark souls goes so deep in lore its amazing

  • @jamesd4827
    @jamesd4827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This only shows how deep Dark Souls lore can be, even a greedy "meaningless peddler" has some deep lore and atention to detail that leads to interesting theorys
    Amazing video by the way keep up the good work

  • @andrewvisser5409
    @andrewvisser5409 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Incredible, I love that I can count on you to breathe more life into my favorite game.

  • @wings1v9
    @wings1v9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The berserk music in the background is amazing

  • @TickleMeSenpai
    @TickleMeSenpai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such great lore videos, more people in the fandom need to know about this channel

  • @shadowraven137
    @shadowraven137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always saw him as a scavenger, in order to get new things (and sell what he didn't want). His position in the depths would allow corpses to flow by him. Add the fact that he gets boss armor, and he is always 'slightly' off the path, with a good vantage point to watch around him.
    Didn't realise the other connections though.

  • @W4terboy
    @W4terboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another excellent video as always.

  • @am-180
    @am-180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    really great video! perfect balance of dramatic storytelling and informative insight

  • @ZombieJeff
    @ZombieJeff 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Every time I think one of your claims is finally going to be too far you manage to come around and make such a strong case for it. Bravo as always.

  • @videopostrrr
    @videopostrrr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As a Welsh person i feel solidarity with him

  • @DrDolan2000
    @DrDolan2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Siwmae!
    I always wondered why a merchant would be in the sewers of all places. Maybe he was trapped? But you do mention how calm he is. That is so weird
    While I can only speak for myself, I'm pretty sure most people trapped in sewer system filled with monsters of varying danger would let out... an "oh no" or two, right?
    I don't trust you, Dom! I don't trust you as far as I can kick you off that ledge

  • @michaelmahoney5677
    @michaelmahoney5677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your taste in game soundtracks is impeccable. I heard ico in there and got very happy

  • @ericvenne9217
    @ericvenne9217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've always wondered how Mimics came to be. This seems like a perfect explanation and I love it!

  • @MrJordwalk
    @MrJordwalk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Domnhall may call himself a peddler, but the presence of The Master Key in his inventory suggests to me that he was A FENCE in Zena because the Thief "class" automatically has the Master Key as a starting gift.
    His use of the terminology "coterie of Undead" is also very interesting because a coterie is a small group of people with shared interests or tastes, especially one that is exclusive of other people and it would be sensible for as few people to be involved in the Plot Against The Gods as possible. The fewer the number of people involved, the more secure the plot and the plotters could also elude notice more easily. It's like The Fellowship Of The Ring.... there were only 9 members, and their purpose was as secretive as the Council of Elrond in which they were chosen.
    Gollum's real name, Smeagol, is the translation of an actual Westron name "Trahald" in Middle Earth, meaning "burrowing or worming in" or "apt to creep into a hole" and so, I believe, given the similarity you highlighted between Domnhall and Gollum, that the former was the one who found and suggested Ash Lake as the place where the plotters could meet and if he was a fence from Zena (as I suggested above), he would absolutely have a mind for secrecy and secret places. In fact, where do we first find him? In the Depths, a place of shadows and shit where no one would think to find a so-called peddler and the perfect place for plotters to meet or hide. The first meeting between The Chosen Undead and himself also feels like Bilbo's encounter with Gollum in the latter's cave and Domnhall is . Gollum also later travels to the sunlit world above, a place he had long ago forsaken, in order to pursue the Ring and Domnhall similarly relocates from the Depths to a precariously accessed spot near Firelink after The Chosen Undead rings the second bell.
    Why there of all places though? I think it was a spot from which he could observe travel between Firelink and The Undead Burg without being seen.

  • @itrywayytoohard
    @itrywayytoohard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great videos as always. Also Stardew Valley music fits surprisingly well for this

  • @grumpycato8314
    @grumpycato8314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, I love the Berserk music in the background

  • @justinh3421
    @justinh3421 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for putting the behelit theme from berserk in the background. Love the berserk ost

  • @GarageHaruo
    @GarageHaruo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    His demeanor reminds me of characters from anime who have their eyes drawn always shut and are usually smiles. I've come to find out that usually those guys who have their eyes shut all the time, are usually always up to something. For example Gin from bleach. He was always around and had his eyes closed and such you thought he was just aizens right hand man. Until he almost kills him towards the end of the show.

    • @shaun1114
      @shaun1114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What about Brock from pokemon?

    • @Primalintent
      @Primalintent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Those characters are often called "Fox-faced" btw. The visual characterization implies cunning and deceptiveness.

    • @Guitar-Dog
      @Guitar-Dog 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah I never liked Brock, Misty all the way

    • @bungiecrimes7247
      @bungiecrimes7247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah true I remember at the end of pokemon, Brock murdered every one of his friends and stole all their pokemon and became lord of all pokemos.

  • @quinnzyker6521
    @quinnzyker6521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He’s just trying to find is way in the universe

  • @alexanderhall1819
    @alexanderhall1819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your lore scripts are very well organized and interesting. Wish my writing had the same prestige!

  • @umukzusgelos4834
    @umukzusgelos4834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ohh boy, getting into the deep waters now
    I just love the conclusions you draw of the correlation with Seath and bringing forth the evidence like the price Frampt is willing to pay for Seaths treasures
    put´s an insane amount of depth and plausibility into all these theories

  • @Yprion
    @Yprion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is insane. It's like you are secretly in touch with Miyazaki

  • @JordanIn3D
    @JordanIn3D 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only watched your video on Siegmeyer and this one, but I'm loving these lore videos, keep it up!

  • @angeloleo9206
    @angeloleo9206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This story, your explenation and the atmosfere, reminded me "the mule" from Asimov.
    Really good job