Remove the AC/DC converter to outside, and also the motherboard from bottom. Connect the wires through the opening hole from the side of theinsulation. The only wire that you will need to extend is the vertical axis zero position sensor wire. I did it and it worked great.and tightening the belts is also needed,because at high temperatures they might be lose and cause failed prints.
Hmm... Sorry but that encloser has reflective sides... Venting? External fan? Power supply outside the box? A material not designed to cook your parts.. Just saying.
whether the stepper motor is in motion or not its always powered during a print. the way a stepper stays stationary is it powers 2 opposing polls to hold its position.
I agree that steppers need cooling, but I am concerned about the main board and power supply. Also, when heat and electronics are combined, resistance increases. I'd like to use a closed circuit method, but as the heat accumulates, the reliability of those steppers would decrease. The commercial flavors seems to have figured it out. Any chance of us being able to catch up?
I was trying to print abs temperature tower it failed twice. Started a new layer completely off and randomly. . I suspect stepper overheating. . It gets really hot inside like oven.
I'm curious as to why an INSULATED enclosure. I use thin plastic for the enclosure sides along with temp controlled exhaust fans place high in enclosure. Never had any issues since.
With a heatsink on the side of the motor, you're likely transmitting more heat into the frame, than the heatsink. When I added mine, I drilled out the center to ensure none of the thermal epoxy entered the shaft hole. The PSU will contribute to the heat...but the sensitive electronics of the PSU shouldn't be in the enclosure. Not only for longevity but efficiency as well, it needs to go outside the enclosure. After a quick Google search...seems most steppers say -10°C - 40°C, but I've heard 50°C from YTbers for the max continuous operating temperature.
While I agree with the PSU/motherboard and other electrical components being as cool as possible. Stepper motors are rated from 75-90C depending on the type. That is however the rating of the motor not the air around it. Anything above 50C outside temp the steppers are going to lose their strength at a much faster rate. Below that I wouldn't worry too much.
Peltier elements has a theoretical maximum efficiency of about 2 percent. They are extremely bad at cooling systems that outputs a large amount of heat. LTT did a video th-cam.com/video/IX2NQ1lq4ZM/w-d-xo.html
the psu should be moved outside the enclosure (all electronics that can be moved should ideally), and probably add a thermometer to monitor the temp of the air, or add a gentle exhaust..... if heat is an issue with steppers, you could always consider water cooling :D lol
Honestly I’m just trying to keep my cats and their hair out of it without moving it to another room. I’m gonna use something like this with a plywood box. Guess I’ll find another way or another room
When I enclosed my ender3 it caused the stepper drivers (heat sinks installed)to fail on my BTT board. At least that’s what I believe it was because everything was fine until I enclosed the printer.
yeah, stepper drivers get hot… especially the “E” (extruder) one. The TMCs that work cooler nowadays are 2225 and 2226. Some printers new printers are aditing those only for the “E”. Include a fan pointing to that can work but move all eletronics to outside is better, of couse. if layer shifts start to appear and other “motor failures”… that must be the reason
Some steppers can handle 180c. Some PSUs exist for hot temps but it's just not worth it. It's super rasy to put it out tho. But for my printer I can thankfully just let them hang outside my enclosure since it's a corexy designed with this in mind.
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Remove the AC/DC converter to outside, and also the motherboard from bottom. Connect the wires through the opening hole from the side of theinsulation. The only wire that you will need to extend is the vertical axis zero position sensor wire. I did it and it worked great.and tightening the belts is also needed,because at high temperatures they might be lose and cause failed prints.
Hmm... Sorry but that encloser has reflective sides... Venting? External fan? Power supply outside the box? A material not designed to cook your parts.. Just saying.
whether the stepper motor is in motion or not its always powered during a print. the way a stepper stays stationary is it powers 2 opposing polls to hold its position.
Or add a thermostat, 12v set the temperature you want the fan to go on ,once too hot the fan turns on .
I agree that steppers need cooling, but I am concerned about the main board and power supply. Also, when heat and electronics are combined, resistance increases. I'd like to use a closed circuit method, but as the heat accumulates, the reliability of those steppers would decrease. The commercial flavors seems to have figured it out. Any chance of us being able to catch up?
I was trying to print abs temperature tower it failed twice. Started a new layer completely off and randomly. . I suspect stepper overheating. . It gets really hot inside like oven.
I'm curious as to why an INSULATED enclosure. I use thin plastic for the enclosure sides along with temp controlled exhaust fans place high in enclosure. Never had any issues since.
Add 4010 12v mini fans. They are perfect size for steper. Glue them on the back of steper
Here comes the Hotstepper... Na na na na naaa....
With a heatsink on the side of the motor, you're likely transmitting more heat into the frame, than the heatsink. When I added mine, I drilled out the center to ensure none of the thermal epoxy entered the shaft hole. The PSU will contribute to the heat...but the sensitive electronics of the PSU shouldn't be in the enclosure. Not only for longevity but efficiency as well, it needs to go outside the enclosure. After a quick Google search...seems most steppers say -10°C - 40°C, but I've heard 50°C from YTbers for the max continuous operating temperature.
While I agree with the PSU/motherboard and other electrical components being as cool as possible. Stepper motors are rated from 75-90C depending on the type. That is however the rating of the motor not the air around it. Anything above 50C outside temp the steppers are going to lose their strength at a much faster rate. Below that I wouldn't worry too much.
peltier element cooling the motors ?
Peltier elements has a theoretical maximum efficiency of about 2 percent. They are extremely bad at cooling systems that outputs a large amount of heat. LTT did a video th-cam.com/video/IX2NQ1lq4ZM/w-d-xo.html
the psu should be moved outside the enclosure (all electronics that can be moved should ideally), and probably add a thermometer to monitor the temp of the air, or add a gentle exhaust..... if heat is an issue with steppers, you could always consider water cooling :D lol
Would this make it a little quieter?
yes
Honestly I’m just trying to keep my cats and their hair out of it without moving it to another room. I’m gonna use something like this with a plywood box.
Guess I’ll find another way or another room
Stepper motors are rated for more than 100C. they'll be fine. PSUs with capacitors is a different story
Add an exhaust fan on a thermostat to keep the inside temp from getting too hot.
Screw the motors, that psu in the corner crying for some fresh air is what worries me 😱
That was a very temporary situation. It needed longer cables to be placed outside the enclosure. It's all good now 😎
@@andrewesquivel I see 😁 can't say im a saint either since my psu is kind of in the danger zone aswell, need to build an enclosure for it badly 😅
When I enclosed my ender3 it caused the stepper drivers (heat sinks installed)to fail on my BTT board. At least that’s what I believe it was because everything was fine until I enclosed the printer.
Everything needs to breathe. Leave couple holes
yeah, stepper drivers get hot… especially the “E” (extruder) one. The TMCs that work cooler nowadays are 2225 and 2226. Some printers new printers are aditing those only for the “E”.
Include a fan pointing to that can work but move all eletronics to outside is better, of couse. if layer shifts start to appear and other “motor failures”… that must be the reason
Some steppers can handle 180c.
Some PSUs exist for hot temps but it's just not worth it. It's super rasy to put it out tho.
But for my printer I can thankfully just let them hang outside my enclosure since it's a corexy designed with this in mind.
You don't need or want an enclosure when printing PLA. Leave it open.
You do if your room or area is cold, trust me.