I brought my cayenne 3.2 brand new in March 2005 , paid £45,500 for it with a few extras. It’s heavy on fuel (20 in town , 25 on a run and 12 if you put your foot down ) but it’s been an absolute great car. It’s now March 2021 so it’s 16 years old, 108,000 miles and past it MOT this morning with no bother whatsoever. It’s never failed an MOT. Change the oil (Mobil 1) every 2 years have it checked by a mechanic and it’s good to go. Only issue was water ingress in the footwell caused by a build up of leaves that blocked the rubber water release grommet by the wheel arch. I took them out and have had no issues since. It still drives like a new (ish) vehicle , looks good and as I change my wife’s car every 3 years ( £ 45-50,000) , my van every 4 years (£35,000) you can see why I’ve kept this thing I call the Panzer. it’s the best vehicle I’ve ever owned
Got my wife a 2008 Cayenne S, replaced starter myself and it was the only repair so far. Wife loooves it and folks always give compliment, the body style is timeless. It killed it in the snow also. Looove it and totally agree with your advice.
I still drive our 06 Turbo S everyday and it has over 100K miles on it. Last year I purchased a new Maserati, gave it to my wife and went back to the Cayene. Unbeatable ride, handling and power. It even got me through severly flooded streets during a hurricane by raising the ride height to the max. You do have to maintain them though and it's more expensive than an American car. Great video and advice.
I used all of these points to justify buying a 2005 turbo about a year ago. Original owner had the 100K mile warranty with a carfax several pages long of dealer repairs, coolant pipes included. Picked it up for less than 10% of its original price and it was always a California car. Absolute steal, right? Well at first yeah, but the hits never stopped coming with that car. Suspension bushings started clunking, there goes a few grand. Engine started rumbling at red lights = failed motor mounts (that's an engine out job for a turbo fyi), another few grand... Fuel level sensor faulty, rear windows stopped working, OEM trunk struts only last a year or so and are a complete pain to replace, sunroof drains will clog if parked outside and leak into car, wiper fluid motor crapped out, headliner started sagging, headlights started flickering randomly (decomposing wire insulation). My only advice (aside from not getting one) would be to buy one with over 130K miles on it, I think there are very few documented cases of bore scoring beyond 130K. And the bore scoring does happen more often than you think, there are endless threads on the forums as well as multiple shops that specialize in refurbishing these engine blocks (for like $15K). Some unlucky owners had engines replaced only to have the 2nd engine suffer the same fate. Watch the Hoovie's Garage episode where he gets a cheap Cayenne S, the engine was seized no doubt from bore scoring. At the end of the day I just didn't trust the car enough to take on the adventures I bought it for. It's a fast sexy beast that can also off road really well, but the frequency at which things would break was unreasonable to me. So far the only german car I would buy again is a Mercedes w210...
This is why I chose VW Touareg TDi, I have had one before dieselgate bought for $15k drove two years, 60k miles, VW paid me over $30k for it. Then bought another 2010 with AIR suspension for $10k in early 2020 with 78k on the clock. It has needed brakes and the driveshaft coupling support changed, less than a grand and labor. Even though VW did the designing and engineering for the Touareg, adapted to Cayenne, Audi Q7 and Bentley Bentayga. The MOST solid models ever built are the Touareg Gen 1 with 3.0 liter Turbo diesel.
It is bad that this happened to you, but you should have done your research and checked the vehicle out better.. Just because you got a bad deal does not mean that the rest is that way. You do know they have scanners that you can plug into your vehicles that can tell you these defects before they happen or a general idea of what is going on with it now. Modern tech is not like the old day's, spend some money and it will be worth it in the long run...Besides, you can keep the scan tool to check your car on a regular basis...That's just my 2 cent's, I havd worked on and taught and inspected some of every vehicle you can imagine....
@@dodgechargerrt1873 Thanks for the advice, and yes I am aware that diagnostic scanners exist. I had a PPI done which included scans with multiple OBD2 tools and there were no issues, although most of my issues wouldn't have shown up in a scan anyways. All the problems came after months of ownership. I sincerely hope that everyone else who buys these cars have better and cheaper experiences than me.
219,000 miles! That’s how many on my 2008 Cayenne Turbo, purrs like a cat, idle is rock steady, doesn’t burn any oil, looks fantastic! Learn to turn a wrench, not expensive to maintain. My interior still looks close to brand new. 500 hp still pushes you back in your seat. Built like tank! I agree, best SUV for the money (if you can turn a wrench)! Excellent vid!
Since you're a longtime Cayenne owner, what's your opinion of 2021 and newer Cayenne Turbo and GTS models? We know the newer generation has been upgraded with newer technology and I suppose performance is tweaked to be slightly better. I would hope known issues (like the ones identified in this video) on earlier model Cayenne's has been reengineered for better reliability on later models, but do not know if this is the case. In general, what do you think of the later model Cayenne in Turbo and GTS trim with the 4.0L V8? Is the 4.0L V8 a reliable engine? Also, do you have an opinion on the Technology package and the Sport Chrono package? What do you like most and dislike most about your experience with the Cayenne and what trim level and engine size is in your car? If you were in the market for a used Cayenne today, what trim level and options would you prefer and what year vehicle? I appreciate your perspective as an owner of the Cayenne.
@@RedondoBeach2 130k miles on mine 09 cayenne s. Went non turbo to keep strain on the engine down although they hold up just fine so the new turbo models are great for fuel economy. I would get the options you want and need. I bought mine with the pano roof when it was still an iffy design and now it's best i just keep it closed and wish I would've gotten the regular sun roof. Now looking at an X5 45e plug in hybrid just for the added cargo space as i found i want my SUV more for usability than speed looks now. I would go with a plug in cayenne if i was you especially after the amount of money Porsche invested in electric power development
@@GU_WOP_O Thank you. I will consider the electric. At this point I have a somewhat wide range of vehicle considerations. A truck is even on the list. Similar to you, I need cargo space, so a utility vehicle is desired. However, after many years of driving my current car, I would also like the next vehicle to be better looking and sporty, which is one reason I like the Cayenne. Aside from that, I've always liked Porsche.
@@RedondoBeach2 you should consider the x5 40i or the 45e which is the same except a plug in hybrid. The straight 6 cylinder engine is what bmw is known for and this is the best it's going to get as they go full electric in the future. Its turboed so more than enough power for an SUV and the engine is getting tuned to push 500hp no problem so it should last a long time in stock form
@@GU_WOP_O You make a compelling argument. However, my flaw is that I'm just a fan of Porsche and like what they've done with the Cayenne Turbo, and generally with the GTS too. I'll add that I'm not in a big hurry to buy. When I do, my intent is to get a 2-5 year old Turbo but may consider a hybrid as well. I may end up shopping for quite a while to find the car optioned the way I'd prefer. For example, I would ideally like the exterior painted in dark metallic blue. Porsche used to call this color Midnight Blue but have either renamed it or come up with a slight different variation of the color. The exterior trim and emblems should be in silver, unlike the personally less desirable black on the GTS variant. Interior finished in black or tan leather. No red leather. There are also preferred rims. The list goes on. Porsche has made their cars so customizable that I would be surprised if any two are exactly the same. I don't need one to fit my exact desires, but 90% of the most important desired features, at the right price, would make it worth my while. This is an aspirational car for me. I bought my current car (2004 VW GTI VR6) almost 18 years ago and it faithfully continues to be my daily driver. I justify the Cayenne to myself partly based on how long I've owned my GTI and as a result, cost avoidance of buying different cars every few years which seems increasingly common for most people. If I find a good and reliable Cayenne, I can see myself owning it for 18+ years as well, so it has to be properly spec'd for my taste.
My 05 Cayenne Turbo is Fantastic. 120k. Black on Black on Black. Chipped to 500hp. Recently I took out the non turbo spark plugs and installed the Beru turbo plugs and took out the aftermarket chinese coil packs and changed them to Beru coil packs. My car thanked me about 500 horsey times. Custom exhaust makes it sound fantastic. So does the. 9" Xtrons touch screen stereo.
I ride jagged and rough in my 2010 Cayenne S V8/4.8L like I'm supposed to on my 22in and I am OCD and assure you, no scratches, no scuffs. Not even from curbs when I'm in NYC street parking. And like gracien2008 says, it is spine-chilling fun!
@@gracien2008 Hahahahahah 😂😂😂😂😂 literally this bro so dumb. Like no way your wouldent fuck up your rims doing that unless it was a miracle by God. So stupid 🤦♂️
I just bought a 958 Diesel last month and I absolutely love it. It's the most comfortable vehicle I've ever been in. I would love to get an early 955 and build it into an overlander/camping rig.
I own a 2009 GTS and love it. I have all the options on mine a Turbo has, so :P to your comment about the GTS. LOL! Now, I am not a Porsche mechanic, but I have worked on cars all my life. I even do all the work on my 88 951. This has been the best all around SUV I have ever owned and will never settle for less.
I’m looking at an 06(s turbo)with 134k for $8800. Runs and sounds great, but I am not a Porsche mechanic and don’t know what to expect on maintenance. I hear horror stories in threads and hear nothing but love as well. How many more miles can I expect out of it?
@@jampav33 Do they have the records for the Cayenne? Ask about the cooling pipes. Might have already been done, but safer to ask. Ask about when the driveshaft bearing what changed. Ask about the transfer case and when it was changed. When were the coils/plugs changed? They should have done the top engine mount at the same time. I would also take it to a mechanic and have them check the cylinders out along with the turbo's. It is a love hate relationship LOL! Best to learn how to do some of the basic work yourself. Brakes, oil changes, air filters and changing out the plugs and coils. This will save you a lot of money. I have over 137K on mine. Drives and rides great. Once you own one you will find it hard to except anything else. Good luck to you.
Yup, I have a 09' GTS. Bitchen car. One thing that is better is no turbos. No intercoolers to worry about if you plan to off-road it and modify it. I also have a 10' Touareg TDI, both incredible, similar and totally different.
We have a 2009 Cayenne base model. Bought two years ago for $11,500 with 88k miles. We've had a couple of repairs totalling around $3k. The valve cover (pcv) was $1700 (genuine Porsche) and an incompetent shop's replacement of the battery at $890! Live and learn. I should have done it myself for around $250. I did replace the interior blower motor myself for $48. Fantastic vehicle for sure. No regrets. We get all kinds of looks and admirers at the gas pump.
wow I'm looking at a 2009 right now for $12,000 with 99k miles on it. In fact just requested additional pictures. It's a six cylinder but I imagine it also has a turbo. I didn't want to go with a v8 due to gas costs but it'll be my toy if I decide to move on it. I would really try to do the basics myself such as spark plugs and simple repairs like that. I'd never go to an exclusive porsche shop. Do you sitll like your Porsche, any further incidents and what else should I look for?
@@joesteel I've owned five 944s over the last 14 years and learned a lot about the Porche culture. Without a doubt the most important things are the service history and researching the known flaws of any particular model and year. Owning one is in part becoming part of the family and community. If you want one simply for show and status it is not for you unless you have money to burn. Treat it like the timeless thoroughbred it is with respect and commitment you are going enjoy something truly special. If you don't you're in for a lot of pain and frustration. Keep up with the maintenance like a religion and you'll be rewarded with many years of rare enjoyment.
Yeah, I'm like off road capable is great, but why in the hell would you want to off road a Cayenne. That's like wanting to track a 911, yeah it's great on track and capable, but unless you're wealthy you're going to get killed on maintenance.
I bought a 2006 Cayenne S Titanium last August and no problems yet and everything it has needed that I can do is not any more expensive than a Escalade or equivalent. Taking it to a shop is where it gets expensive. Yes 300 for an oil change but where else do you get 10 - 15K between changes? Well worth the buy if you see one and want it grab it. The VW Touareg was a short lived SUV based on the Cayenne platform as well if you rather go that route also.
@@hamsterbrigade Hello there. A lot of my friends say exactly the same thing, why would you off road your cayenne!! Well because it is super capable, super durable and reliable, extremely fun on and off road and also because I do all my mechanical and body shop work! So, no fear here, just love and appreciation for the vehicle.
THIS VIDEO CONVINCED ME TO BUY ONE, I’m looking at a 07 cayenne S with 155k miles on it for $5500 runs good strong engine and smooth transmission, tires all around brakes and rotors are new!!! Only problem is windscreen has a big cracked, so it needs a new one, but that’s about it , exterior is 7/10 interior 8/10 , so I think it’s a good buy !!
2006 CS 190500. Pulls tear drop camper. Purchased used with all the serious issues already resolved. Mostly regular maintenance and suspension work. Several previous owners suffered through the trauma. I am benefitting from it now. Zelda is the grey warrior.
Really impressed with where you're taking it on the 21" rims and low pro tires. Also, don't knock the GTS! Only way to get a V8+6-speed combination. Check out the BaT prices for those- one just concluded with a $65.5k closing price!
This the best video! Did not even know my 04 had a refrigerator!!! The tire compressor is amazing! Never knew! I absolutely love love love my BEAST! Great video!
@R Morris Well, I know it can be expensive when something breaks, and I haven't owned mine for very long yet, but as far as I can tell these are more reliable than your average vehicle, with most of the kinks worked out in later models. Make sure you understand the full service history of the vehicle. As long as the regular recommended maintenance is performed, the car should last a long time. There are certain parts that have an expected lifetime and need to be replaced during regular maintenance intervals, and invariably something *will* break. It's a car after all. I had two different mechanics inspect mine and they both said it was squeaky clean. You should always get a PPI.
I bought a Touareg, sister to the Cayenne, a couple years ago. Went all in on an early on. 2004 with the V10 twin turbo diesel. I got it for cheap knowing it would need an expensive engine-out service and did the work myself. It doesn't quite have all the bells and whistles, but it's pretty close. Diesel powered heater with remote. It has the low gear transfer case and rear locking differential. Has the air suspension as well. One of the front bags did pop on me. They all appear to be original. It made it 17 years and 207,000 miles, so I can't really complain. The factory air bags are pretty well-protected and armored. Nice aluminum covering and a plastic bellows that keeps most of the ozone and dirt from ever getting to the main bag. Unfortunately, the replacement Arnott bags I got for the fronts are not so protected, but do at least appear to be made with quality materials. But given that they aren't shielded, I am not expecting them to last as long. These things ride great, handle great and do surprisingly well off road, you just have to go slow and stay on the throttle to let the computer figure things out. With the air ride pumped up so much in the off road heights, it's a very stiff ride with very little give in the suspension. A wheel will be in the air frequently, but they're oddly well balanced when off roading like that with a wheel in the air. Just keep the throttle on and the computer will figure it out and you'll slowly make your way through.
I have a 2014 Cayenne S platinum edition 90000 miles absolutely no problems 2 and a 1/2 years in. BAD ASS Black on Black. As long as you have a second vehicle to drive Every DAY, you will be fine on the maintenance.
@@McVaio Warranties aren't required but they come in handy if the cars aren't sorted when they are bought. I bought one about 5 years ago that wasn't sorted out and spent a few grand making it right and haven't had any problems since. Thus; they are reliable but, and let me word this better for you, a warranty would be a good idea for peace of mind. I've seen many examples with several hundred thousand miles on them and still on the road.
Wow you know I always check cars to see if the visor moves to the side and slides back but porsche has really outdone my expectations here. Never actually seen this, freaking awesome!
thanks its a nice video, i was also surprise of some features of this car. and i always use it in a construction site during my inspection visits i agree its a reliable and a good car, in 2014 i bought a second hand porshce cayenne s 2009 yr model with only 30k kilometers done. and today year 2024 it is now 231k km done. the history of minor issues for me are, the coolant pipe at 130k km, fuel filter separator at 170k km, window motor, back door strut, replace of starter at 175k km. center bearing at 180k km, air suspension in front left and right at 200k km. so far so good today it is now 10 years i am driving and i love it with 231,000 kilometers still have the power to push you back to your seat when you step on the gas.......
had an '08 S for four years and didn't have one problem with it. like them so much I moved up to a '12 Turbo and got a 4 year warranty with it that has already paid for itself. couldn't be happier and nothing has run past me yet.
@@CarFanatic Yep, transfer case went out in it at 69,000 miles and had it dealer replaced under the warranty. Also had valve cover gaskets replaced after it was leaking oil at 71,000 miles. No other issues so far still have 12 months of warranty left.
The only thing is that if you get keys made for them by the dealer then they will cost at least $550 each. You will also need a good scan tool so that you can reset the service now light when you do an oil change on it.
Cool vid. Agreed that the 1st Gen Cayenne is the best looking and you really only want the Turbo or the GTS. Nice flip flops too, I’m going to start wearing them in my Porsche from now on😍
The 2006 S Titanium model is nice too that's what I bought. Only thing I dislike is that compact spare tire I had to use it once and prefer to replace it with a full size 18 inch rim tire. Inflating it was creepy it looked like ut wanted to blow off the side.
If you don't have to buy parts - Cayenne aftermarket parts are already expensive. I really don't want to know OEM part prices. Example? Headlight set Cayenne minimum $1,000. A Mercedes ML Headlight set is around $300... 👌
A dealer near me was selling a 2010 Cayenne GTS for $15K a few years ago. I kinda wanted it, but was scared off by the maintenance costs and poor fuel economy. We ended up with a Q5 for my wife, it's been a good rig, but I do wish it had a bit more power. Off the line, that 2.0T is decent, but it's by no means fast.
@@UinAZ Yeah, the Macan seems like a good, quick SUV for a young couple with no kids. But for a family? I mean, it's MQB, basically a Golf, and SUV needs more room for things and people!
I have a 2005 Cayenne S. I have only 24k miles on it, and only use it for short highway trips in the Mexican Yucatan. It still looks new, and I absolutely love it. So far I have done all regular fluid maintenance, and it will make its second only trip to the dealer for lower control arms. In spite of the low mileage, the notorious speed bumps here combined with the weight of this SUV have prematurely worn the bushings out. I will also replace the rear hatch struts, which are a little weak now, from age Vs use. The engine is amazing, as is the handling, and comfort of this amazing vehicle. For the price now of these amazing vehicles, and the timeless styling, it is a must consider option for a used SUV. Parts are available at low prices, and it is an easy vehicle to do minor service on. And after all, it is a Porsche. It looks amazing still, parked next to my two 911 Turbos.
I had one of these and loved it! But I have to admit that I put a lot of maintenance into it over the 50k miles that I drove it. Did most of the work myself. Fine if this is your second car and don’t need it daily. Not great for a daily driver though.
@@JUSTYN23 steering is smooth it feels very solid. I don't do the maintenance at a Porsche dealer and it's relatively inexpensive. No major problems just oil and filters. I have done a complete fluid change once so far and things run well. my car only has 60K which is low for 2009 but I would buy another Cayenne.
Great review of this marque. As the comments highlight when these go wrong, and they will, it’s a huge expense. Buy the best you can with lower mileage and full history as they do get some wear and tear. Also buy an electronic plug in fault code reader to see issues before the garage!
I picked up iCarsoft Por-II OBD reader and it does everything you need it to for under $200 as opposed to Porsche Durametric which is big $$$. I can reset service reminders, read and clear codes, even retract brake calipers when doing brake pad replacement.
Love my 2010 GTS. Was actually a former celebrity’s car (Hillary Duff). However if you can’t do your own maintenance, prepare to shell out some coin. Parts aren’t too insanely priced, it’s the labor that will kill you. So far in the two years I’ve owned I had to replace coils ($400), had a coolant vent line break under the intake ($40) then also replaced the starter ($250) while doing that repair. Then that remanufactured starter I installed was faulty and failed within a month so had to do it again. Now just got brake pad replacement notification so bought new rotors and pads all the way around for $600. The coolant line job would likely been $1,500+ in labor, brakes likely the same. It was intimidating at first to work on myself, but in the end it’s a car just like all the others I’ve wrenched on. You start to appreciate some of the design choices as it makes things easier to work on. Like the starter for example, at first I was like what moron decided to bury it under the intake, but after doing it a second time I realized how easy it is to not have to climb under the car and get all dirty. At this point the only thing left on the possible maintenance is to replace the cardan shaft bearing carrier.
@@CarFanatic nice! I got a 3500$CAD platinum, third party warranty for my 2013 BMW X1 (now 66K kms.) so far, they paid 400$ on 1000$ (new batt and starter, obviously batt is not covered) worth of work and parts. I bought the vehicle in 2019. So far, so good. I wonder if I'll ever make that warranty worth my while lol.. seems like it would only pay off for more catastrophic failures...oh well, the good part is that it's transferable to the next owner so gives me some leverage during selling :) It's almost paid off, so now I have my eyes set on a Cayenne!
I’m in the UK, now I’m seeing quite a few around. Mine is a 2005 Cayenne s 955. Admittedly its off the road at the moment. It’s not my main car, I just haven’t got time to run the Cayenne at the moment. Its safely stored in a shed.
@@unleasherR6 yeah I guess it is money tied up in something that depreciating. I bought it for less than market value, so it doesn’t matter to much. The bank interest rate is less than inflation, and will be for some time yet.
My 2008 Cayenne Turbo has done some 150,000mls and it's one of my daily drivers. It has to be a - sort of - daily, because if it sits for 2+ weeks, it will bitch. Meaning, it won't start at first try, causinf some trouble codes to show up due to low voltage in the system. In order to avoid that, I'm driving it at least every other week. In order to avoid outrageous repair-bills, I get even tthe tyiniest issues fixed immediately. And yes, there are issues coming up frequently. But - and here's a big "but" - If you prefer driving a 500hp Porsche, fully loaded and superior to most everybody else on the road - that's what you have to put up with. Yes, a Toyota will take you from A to B while costing you a fraction in maintenence. It depends on what you prefer, what your persnal taste is like and how fat your wallet is...
I would suggest lowest powered v6 and no air suspension. Make sure you get confirmation that the prop shaft has been upgraded they go pretty easily and it’s £800-1200 for a new one. Then you’ll have a reliable motor that looks good for plenty of cheap miles.
I am always of the opinion that if you are buying an older car, those above 10 years old, dont buy one with turbo. Turbo adds a lot of complexities to the machine and has more things to break. I rather sacrifice bhp for reliability. If I were to get one, the S or GTS will be a better choice
My take on future purchases. Get a compression test done. Typically norther colder climate Cayennes can have cylinder bore scoring for V8 turbo and non turbo models. It seems that 09 and 10 are the least affected by this issue.
I was happy to get rid of my 2008 Cayenne S in 2016. It started becoming a money pit. The last straw was when I had to replace the CARB rated catalytic converters at $1,400 each. I've owned 5 Porsches and they're great driver's cars but Porsche has always been a bit late on driver convenience tech. For example, Bluetooth was not available until very late.
I've following your channel for awhile now. I appreciate how thorough you are so much. That I got myself an 09' Turbo S. I'm sure it's the cheapest purchase in the U.S right now. I'm very happy with it.
What about the maintenance cost?I got a Cayenne S 2012 with all the extras but boy o boy you need lots of money to maintain the Cayenne.they not that good at all😳
I have to say that in my '08 turbo I am now using the 19 inch winter wheels and tires and comfort has gone up quite another level I still have the 21s but apart from the aesthetics, which do look really cool, it ruins the handling, making acceleration worse, etc. Also, when towing, one of the tires (Michelin 295/35R21) developed a bubble and had to change it (they were literally brand new, less than 500km) They have a too slim sidewall for the car, it you are going to use the full potential of it and not just use it on the city and highway
@@CarFanatic I am really happy with the 19s (which is the smallest our cars allow) 955 turbo can use 18s as they have smaller brakes The car is much more comfortable Also you feel it with less ballast (less weight) In the handling department, you still have a vast amount of grip (I have the PDCC, which might also play a part) I am using 255/50R19 Michelin Alpin5 (previously used the Pirelli Scorpion snow&ice) I would say the car behaves really similarly to the 295/35R21, but with a bit less grip The way in which it can attack a bend is the same, but the limit is a bit lower and it is easier to lock the brakes on the front or understeer a bit, specially when the tires start getting old or worn Although in normal circumstances this situation does not occur You would really want the car to understeer to make it happen
Porsches are great but I'll never buy a used one again. Only new or lease. Once they start to need to have stuff replaced, you better be prepared for the pain. Best cars on the planet imo, but its german, so no matter what you're going to get an over engineered vehicle that's going to cost you once it starts to get older.
You either pay upfront (new car) or pay in the rear with older models specifically with maintenance. They are especially expensive if you get them service at a shop. There are plenty of DIY online though to save you some money...
My husband and I bought a "slightly used" Cayenne and sold it 6 months later. We bought it from a Porsche dealership and had all the maintenance up to date and had about 23000 miles on it. We put 3000 miles on it in 6 months and when we took it in the dealership insisted we pay for the 40,000 mile maintenance at $2750!!! That was utter BS. So we sold it ASAP and bought a brand new BMW X5 m 50i. I'll NEVER buy another Porsche after that even though the car was gorgeous and I loved driving it. The maintenance was utter BS and a total scam.
Wow, that's why I recommend people stay away from the dealership. It's overpriced and many try to sell you on services you don't actually need. Even with your BMW, I recommend finding a good independent mechanic that you can trust. It will save you a lot of money in the long run!
Yes they are great but the air suspension is a nightmare, i own an Audi Q7 and they are the same as Porsche Cayenne you need to replace the air suspension every 4 years depends on your driving style but usually around that period of time and they are costly for the OG parts. Butg these trucks are cool to drive.
The rear of these 955/957 is kind of weird looking to me although i think this is an attractive SUV overall. The 958 is the one that really got me into the Cayenne and the fact that i am seeing them for under 20k now is nuts! Definitely going to get a 958 Cayenne once im done with my E70 BMW X5 hopefully the Porsche is as reliable as my 6 cyl turbo X5 is.
The 958 looks like a Mazda to me. Whereas 955 brake lights look like the Carrera GT's. Both the 955 and the 957 looks good all around. 955/957 were much better off road too, had a real 2-speed transfer case etc.
@@chir0pter yea i hear ya but i assure you 90% of people buying these vehicles are not going off road. The 955/957 just resembled the Toureg way too much for me (i know its the same platform). The interior was also a dramatic improvement way less cheap plastic as expected from a newer vehicle.
I have my second VW Touareg TDi and the one I have now has air suspension and pretty much everything the Cayenne has. But I get 1,000 km/600 miles per tank easily, that is 28-32 mpg, about twice the fuel efficiency of the Porsche V8 turbo gas version. I have better towing capacity and an engine that is just getting broken in at 100k miles. All-in-all, I love my Touareg TDi and think it is as good as my Lexus SC430, another bargain, and my Toyota Hilux 4x4 diesel. All together, with the Toyota bought new (as a tax write off in Mexico for my hotel there) I have under $50k USD invested and have a bullet-proof highly efficient go anywhere truck, a most luxurious, seriously capable off roader, sporty driving, economical SUV and a retractable hardtop by Lexus that has the silkiest drivetrain on the planet with Toyota reliability and unparalleled luxury from the bird's eye maple to the napa leather. All three for less than the VW or Lexus when brand new....and they will last a lifetime if maintained.
@@chosenBYpicasso I appreciate what I have. And driving 10-20 year old vehicles I could afford to pay cash for has allowed me to enjoy a good lifestyle without ever earning a tremendous amount of income. Many today can learn from this, Never go in debt for something that depreciates, approach to life. But if you think driving 12 and 18 year old vehicles is bragging, then yes, sure why not. It is an accomplishment even a WalMart greeter can achieve with some discipline. And boy do I LOVE my cars.
And all three paid for when purchased, and equal LESS than the amount of the average NEW Car that folks are taking out 72 month and greater car loans on. You would not believe how many gas station attendants, store clerks or other part timers I meet driving $65-85k trucks, all on payments. UNBELIEVABLE! We have learned NOTHING from the 2007/08 subprime housing collapse, we are doing it with cars and trucks now.
@@UltraFence I've got about 60k wrapped up between gold, silver, & crypto.. But I drive a 2009 ford focus that falling apart probably worth $400.. Lol.. I'll have enough to have many cars and houses eventually.
Great video!!! I have an '08 gts w/45k miles on it It runs beautiful, I love it it's a lot of fun to drive. It's just a summer vehicle, I live in New England , so I keep it garaged through the winter months and drive my 2004 platinum Nissan Pathfinder for the winter
I really want to, but I don't go off-roading enough. So I'm stuck in a position where all terrain tires don't make sense and neither does having two sets of wheels. So I'm think it might make sense to downsize the wheels to 19 or 20 inch wheels and run a high performance all season. I would at least have a little more sidewall. We'll see though.
I would have got a Cayenne if I knew how capable they were a month ago. I ended up with a Lexus GX that I put work into it. The GX is a great vehicle but it's not a Porsche. 🤷♂️
Appreciate your videos. I’m looking hard at a 2006 S non turbo. It’s a real toss up because the price and condition is good but when you mentioned only the Turbo models being truely ionic, maybe I should look around harder. Not sure 🤔
I have a 2004 Cayenne S 132k Wife iterally drives it just like 50 miles a week right now. Took it to big bear and it was a beast in the snow. However come June...I say goodbye
Join the club my Cayenne S with 41km on the clock with R482 000-00 of extras + - 31 000 dollars,spend in 2020 about 5000 dollars on repairs and running cost.try to sell it ,but was going to loss all the extras 31 000 dollars now we need to drive it to the end .
Air suspension is great until it breaks and it will .... The sweet spot is the Cayenne S not the turbo ...less trivial features that won't fail ... The 955 Cayennes overall are great suvs not to mention abrams tank safe ... Future collectables and the last of the old school real German suv's
I hear you on the air suspension, but that's what allows the Cayenne to be versatile. I figure I'll bite the bullet and shell out $4k to replace the air suspension if it goes out. Thanks for watching and hope you're subscribed!
@@CarFanatic well if it's any consolation all the SUVs with air suspension at some point fail my friend just sunk 6K into his Range Rover air suspension I just don't like it but I hear you
I currently own two Touareg V10 TDI and the V8 prior. The V10 weight 6000lbs and I have zero issue with air suspension. Yes, I tow a lot with it. Makes me wondered if you have own one of this beast?
@@timleng4404 Yes two of them ..both S models without air suspension ...Here in Canada the weather does not help with making them last. I have seen many with this issue.
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250k 955 running strong today!
How many seals have you replaced?
300427 mine has been so reliable
Just bought a 955 with 140k she’s doing really good rn
@@warriorsfan362 did u replace coolant and driveshaft
Getting my V8 4.5 350 on Friday, can't wait
I brought my cayenne 3.2 brand new in March 2005 , paid £45,500 for it with a few extras. It’s heavy on fuel (20 in town , 25 on a run and 12 if you put your foot down ) but it’s been an absolute great car. It’s now March 2021 so it’s 16 years old, 108,000 miles and past it MOT this morning with no bother whatsoever. It’s never failed an MOT. Change the oil (Mobil 1) every 2 years have it checked by a mechanic and it’s good to go. Only issue was water ingress in the footwell caused by a build up of leaves that blocked the rubber water release grommet by the wheel arch. I took them out and have had no issues since. It still drives like a new (ish) vehicle , looks good and as I change my wife’s car every 3 years ( £ 45-50,000) , my van every 4 years (£35,000) you can see why I’ve kept this thing I call the Panzer. it’s the best vehicle I’ve ever owned
My 04 is also the best! I honestly can’t believe how fabulous it is!
Oil every 24 months? Sounds suspect.
Got my wife a 2008 Cayenne S, replaced starter myself and it was the only repair so far. Wife loooves it and folks always give compliment, the body style is timeless. It killed it in the snow also. Looove it and totally agree with your advice.
Thanks Al and hope you're subscribed!
@@CarFanatic Heck yeah brotha! Long time sub here!
How is it now?
@@lumpygasinavacuum8449 Awesome! No real problems since
How long did it take you to do that starter job though? I was there for a while but completely worth it 😂
I still drive our 06 Turbo S everyday and it has over 100K miles on it. Last year I purchased a new Maserati, gave it to my wife and went back to the Cayene. Unbeatable ride, handling and power. It even got me through severly flooded streets during a hurricane by raising the ride height to the max. You do have to maintain them though and it's more expensive than an American car. Great video and advice.
Thanks so much for watching and sharing your experience. Hope you're subscribed!
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The 06 turbo s is such an underrated monster. Never getting rid of mine.
I used all of these points to justify buying a 2005 turbo about a year ago. Original owner had the 100K mile warranty with a carfax several pages long of dealer repairs, coolant pipes included. Picked it up for less than 10% of its original price and it was always a California car. Absolute steal, right? Well at first yeah, but the hits never stopped coming with that car. Suspension bushings started clunking, there goes a few grand. Engine started rumbling at red lights = failed motor mounts (that's an engine out job for a turbo fyi), another few grand... Fuel level sensor faulty, rear windows stopped working, OEM trunk struts only last a year or so and are a complete pain to replace, sunroof drains will clog if parked outside and leak into car, wiper fluid motor crapped out, headliner started sagging, headlights started flickering randomly (decomposing wire insulation). My only advice (aside from not getting one) would be to buy one with over 130K miles on it, I think there are very few documented cases of bore scoring beyond 130K. And the bore scoring does happen more often than you think, there are endless threads on the forums as well as multiple shops that specialize in refurbishing these engine blocks (for like $15K). Some unlucky owners had engines replaced only to have the 2nd engine suffer the same fate. Watch the Hoovie's Garage episode where he gets a cheap Cayenne S, the engine was seized no doubt from bore scoring. At the end of the day I just didn't trust the car enough to take on the adventures I bought it for. It's a fast sexy beast that can also off road really well, but the frequency at which things would break was unreasonable to me. So far the only german car I would buy again is a Mercedes w210...
This is the real advice people should be thinking about. I came looking for the “real deal” review, so thanks!
I have an 06 S V-8 no turbo with 224,000 miles. They can be costly unless your mechanic is your friend...😇
This is why I chose VW Touareg TDi, I have had one before dieselgate bought for $15k drove two years, 60k miles, VW paid me over $30k for it. Then bought another 2010 with AIR suspension for $10k in early 2020 with 78k on the clock. It has needed brakes and the driveshaft coupling support changed, less than a grand and labor. Even though VW did the designing and engineering for the Touareg, adapted to Cayenne, Audi Q7 and Bentley Bentayga. The MOST solid models ever built are the Touareg Gen 1 with 3.0 liter Turbo diesel.
It is bad that this happened to you, but you should have done your research and checked the vehicle out better.. Just because you got a bad deal does not mean that the rest is that way. You do know they have scanners that you can plug into your vehicles that can tell you these defects before they happen or a general idea of what is going on with it now. Modern tech is not like the old day's, spend some money and it will be worth it in the long run...Besides, you can keep the scan tool to check your car on a regular basis...That's just my 2 cent's, I havd worked on and taught and inspected some of every vehicle you can imagine....
@@dodgechargerrt1873 Thanks for the advice, and yes I am aware that diagnostic scanners exist. I had a PPI done which included scans with multiple OBD2 tools and there were no issues, although most of my issues wouldn't have shown up in a scan anyways. All the problems came after months of ownership. I sincerely hope that everyone else who buys these cars have better and cheaper experiences than me.
219,000 miles! That’s how many on my 2008 Cayenne Turbo, purrs like a cat, idle is rock steady, doesn’t burn any oil, looks fantastic! Learn to turn a wrench, not expensive to maintain. My interior still looks close to brand new. 500 hp still pushes you back in your seat. Built like tank! I agree, best SUV for the money (if you can turn a wrench)! Excellent vid!
Since you're a longtime Cayenne owner, what's your opinion of 2021 and newer Cayenne Turbo and GTS models? We know the newer generation has been upgraded with newer technology and I suppose performance is tweaked to be slightly better. I would hope known issues (like the ones identified in this video) on earlier model Cayenne's has been reengineered for better reliability on later models, but do not know if this is the case. In general, what do you think of the later model Cayenne in Turbo and GTS trim with the 4.0L V8? Is the 4.0L V8 a reliable engine? Also, do you have an opinion on the Technology package and the Sport Chrono package? What do you like most and dislike most about your experience with the Cayenne and what trim level and engine size is in your car? If you were in the market for a used Cayenne today, what trim level and options would you prefer and what year vehicle? I appreciate your perspective as an owner of the Cayenne.
@@RedondoBeach2 130k miles on mine 09 cayenne s. Went non turbo to keep strain on the engine down although they hold up just fine so the new turbo models are great for fuel economy. I would get the options you want and need. I bought mine with the pano roof when it was still an iffy design and now it's best i just keep it closed and wish I would've gotten the regular sun roof. Now looking at an X5 45e plug in hybrid just for the added cargo space as i found i want my SUV more for usability than speed looks now. I would go with a plug in cayenne if i was you especially after the amount of money Porsche invested in electric power development
@@GU_WOP_O Thank you. I will consider the electric. At this point I have a somewhat wide range of vehicle considerations. A truck is even on the list. Similar to you, I need cargo space, so a utility vehicle is desired. However, after many years of driving my current car, I would also like the next vehicle to be better looking and sporty, which is one reason I like the Cayenne. Aside from that, I've always liked Porsche.
@@RedondoBeach2 you should consider the x5 40i or the 45e which is the same except a plug in hybrid. The straight 6 cylinder engine is what bmw is known for and this is the best it's going to get as they go full electric in the future. Its turboed so more than enough power for an SUV and the engine is getting tuned to push 500hp no problem so it should last a long time in stock form
@@GU_WOP_O You make a compelling argument. However, my flaw is that I'm just a fan of Porsche and like what they've done with the Cayenne Turbo, and generally with the GTS too. I'll add that I'm not in a big hurry to buy. When I do, my intent is to get a 2-5 year old Turbo but may consider a hybrid as well. I may end up shopping for quite a while to find the car optioned the way I'd prefer. For example, I would ideally like the exterior painted in dark metallic blue. Porsche used to call this color Midnight Blue but have either renamed it or come up with a slight different variation of the color. The exterior trim and emblems should be in silver, unlike the personally less desirable black on the GTS variant. Interior finished in black or tan leather. No red leather. There are also preferred rims. The list goes on. Porsche has made their cars so customizable that I would be surprised if any two are exactly the same. I don't need one to fit my exact desires, but 90% of the most important desired features, at the right price, would make it worth my while. This is an aspirational car for me. I bought my current car (2004 VW GTI VR6) almost 18 years ago and it faithfully continues to be my daily driver. I justify the Cayenne to myself partly based on how long I've owned my GTI and as a result, cost avoidance of buying different cars every few years which seems increasingly common for most people. If I find a good and reliable Cayenne, I can see myself owning it for 18+ years as well, so it has to be properly spec'd for my taste.
My 05 Cayenne Turbo is Fantastic. 120k. Black on Black on Black. Chipped to 500hp. Recently I took out the non turbo spark plugs and installed the Beru turbo plugs and took out the aftermarket chinese coil packs and changed them to Beru coil packs. My car thanked me about 500 horsey times. Custom exhaust makes it sound fantastic. So does the. 9" Xtrons touch screen stereo.
@Ernie H why don't you fix it yourself, it's no different than any other car
It's sending chills up my spine just looking at how he is running over jagged rocks with those Beautiful rims and Low profile tires.
Those rims got scratched 100%
I ride jagged and rough in my 2010 Cayenne S V8/4.8L like I'm supposed to on my 22in and I am OCD and assure you, no scratches, no scuffs. Not even from curbs when I'm in NYC street parking. And like gracien2008 says, it is spine-chilling fun!
@@Jdsofar mine get scratched just Looking at them!
@@gracien2008 Hahahahahah 😂😂😂😂😂 literally this bro so dumb. Like no way your wouldent fuck up your rims doing that unless it was a miracle by God. So stupid 🤦♂️
I didn’t see any rims I’d call beautiful. I saw some butt-ugly rims, though.
I just bought a 958 Diesel last month and I absolutely love it. It's the most comfortable vehicle I've ever been in. I would love to get an early 955 and build it into an overlander/camping rig.
I own a 2009 GTS and love it. I have all the options on mine a Turbo has, so :P to your comment about the GTS. LOL! Now, I am not a Porsche mechanic, but I have worked on cars all my life. I even do all the work on my 88 951.
This has been the best all around SUV I have ever owned and will never settle for less.
I’m looking at an 06(s turbo)with 134k for $8800. Runs and sounds great, but I am not a Porsche mechanic and don’t know what to expect on maintenance. I hear horror stories in threads and hear nothing but love as well. How many more miles can I expect out of it?
@@jampav33 Do they have the records for the Cayenne?
Ask about the cooling pipes. Might have already been done, but safer to ask.
Ask about when the driveshaft bearing what changed.
Ask about the transfer case and when it was changed.
When were the coils/plugs changed? They should have done the top engine mount at the same time.
I would also take it to a mechanic and have them check the cylinders out along with the turbo's.
It is a love hate relationship LOL! Best to learn how to do some of the basic work yourself. Brakes, oil changes, air filters and changing out the plugs and coils. This will save you a lot of money.
I have over 137K on mine. Drives and rides great. Once you own one you will find it hard to except anything else. Good luck to you.
Yup, I have a 09' GTS. Bitchen car. One thing that is better is no turbos. No intercoolers to worry about if you plan to off-road it and modify it. I also have a 10' Touareg TDI, both incredible, similar and totally different.
We have a 2009 Cayenne base model. Bought two years ago for $11,500 with 88k miles.
We've had a couple of repairs totalling around $3k. The valve cover (pcv) was $1700 (genuine Porsche) and an incompetent shop's replacement of the battery at $890! Live and learn. I should have done it myself for around $250. I did replace the interior blower motor myself for $48.
Fantastic vehicle for sure. No regrets. We get all kinds of looks and admirers at the gas pump.
wow I'm looking at a 2009 right now for $12,000 with 99k miles on it. In fact just requested additional pictures. It's a six cylinder but I imagine it also has a turbo. I didn't want to go with a v8 due to gas costs but it'll be my toy if I decide to move on it. I would really try to do the basics myself such as spark plugs and simple repairs like that. I'd never go to an exclusive porsche shop. Do you sitll like your Porsche, any further incidents and what else should I look for?
@@joesteel
I've owned five 944s over the last 14 years and learned a lot about the Porche culture.
Without a doubt the most important things are the service history and researching the known flaws of any particular model and year.
Owning one is in part becoming part of the family and community. If you want one simply for show and status it is not for you unless you have money to burn.
Treat it like the timeless thoroughbred it is with respect and commitment you are going enjoy something truly special.
If you don't you're in for a lot of pain and frustration.
Keep up with the maintenance like a religion and you'll be rewarded with many years of rare enjoyment.
$890 for battery? I have a 2008 Turbo, pretty straightforward to replace, just under the drivers seat. Sorry you had that expense.
He’s secretly a Porsche mechanic and knows the money it takes for maintenance for these vehicles
True.. maintenance is super expensive
Yeah, I'm like off road capable is great, but why in the hell would you want to off road a Cayenne. That's like wanting to track a 911, yeah it's great on track and capable, but unless you're wealthy you're going to get killed on maintenance.
I bought a 2006 Cayenne S Titanium last August and no problems yet and everything it has needed that I can do is not any more expensive than a Escalade or equivalent. Taking it to a shop is where it gets expensive. Yes 300 for an oil change but where else do you get 10 - 15K between changes? Well worth the buy if you see one and want it grab it. The VW Touareg was a short lived SUV based on the Cayenne platform as well if you rather go that route also.
@@hamsterbrigade Hello there. A lot of my friends say exactly the same thing, why would you off road your cayenne!! Well because it is super capable, super durable and reliable, extremely fun on and off road and also because I do all my mechanical and body shop work! So, no fear here, just love and appreciation for the vehicle.
@@hamsterbrigade do you really wrote who would track a 911?? The most tracked car on Earth besides maybe a corvette??
THIS VIDEO CONVINCED ME TO BUY ONE, I’m looking at a 07 cayenne S with 155k miles on it for $5500 runs good strong engine and smooth transmission, tires all around brakes and rotors are new!!! Only problem is windscreen has a big cracked, so it needs a new one, but that’s about it , exterior is 7/10 interior 8/10 , so I think it’s a good buy !!
That's an absolute steal!
I got a 2013 one with a six-speed manual and drives great in snow
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2006 CS 190500. Pulls tear drop camper. Purchased used with all the serious issues already resolved. Mostly regular maintenance and suspension work. Several previous owners suffered through the trauma. I am benefitting from it now. Zelda is the grey warrior.
Really impressed with where you're taking it on the 21" rims and low pro tires. Also, don't knock the GTS! Only way to get a V8+6-speed combination. Check out the BaT prices for those- one just concluded with a $65.5k closing price!
This the best video! Did not even know my 04 had a refrigerator!!! The tire compressor is amazing! Never knew! I absolutely love love love my BEAST! Great video!
Strange time to see this video in my feed, I bought a 2008 Cayenne Turbo last week
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I said same. I just bought one yesterday. How are you liking it?
Had mine for 4yrs now no problems 150k runs better than my Range Rover
I just bought an '08 Cayenne S and it's the nicest driving car I've ever owned. So far so good, no issues whatsoever. Check back with me in a year...
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@R Morris Freaking great. Best car I've ever owned. I think I will probably have it for a long time.
@R Morris Well, I know it can be expensive when something breaks, and I haven't owned mine for very long yet, but as far as I can tell these are more reliable than your average vehicle, with most of the kinks worked out in later models. Make sure you understand the full service history of the vehicle. As long as the regular recommended maintenance is performed, the car should last a long time. There are certain parts that have an expected lifetime and need to be replaced during regular maintenance intervals, and invariably something *will* break. It's a car after all. I had two different mechanics inspect mine and they both said it was squeaky clean. You should always get a PPI.
@@chrismcgraw2112 Update? ;)
@@ronp.6782 No issues, great car!
Proud Porsche Cayenne owner..great car! Just go for it.
I bought a Touareg, sister to the Cayenne, a couple years ago. Went all in on an early on. 2004 with the V10 twin turbo diesel. I got it for cheap knowing it would need an expensive engine-out service and did the work myself.
It doesn't quite have all the bells and whistles, but it's pretty close. Diesel powered heater with remote. It has the low gear transfer case and rear locking differential. Has the air suspension as well. One of the front bags did pop on me. They all appear to be original. It made it 17 years and 207,000 miles, so I can't really complain.
The factory air bags are pretty well-protected and armored. Nice aluminum covering and a plastic bellows that keeps most of the ozone and dirt from ever getting to the main bag. Unfortunately, the replacement Arnott bags I got for the fronts are not so protected, but do at least appear to be made with quality materials. But given that they aren't shielded, I am not expecting them to last as long.
These things ride great, handle great and do surprisingly well off road, you just have to go slow and stay on the throttle to let the computer figure things out. With the air ride pumped up so much in the off road heights, it's a very stiff ride with very little give in the suspension. A wheel will be in the air frequently, but they're oddly well balanced when off roading like that with a wheel in the air. Just keep the throttle on and the computer will figure it out and you'll slowly make your way through.
2006 turbo s just hit 300k, and going strong.
I have a 2014 Cayenne S platinum edition 90000 miles absolutely no problems 2 and a 1/2 years in. BAD ASS Black on Black.
As long as you have a second vehicle to drive Every DAY, you will be fine on the maintenance.
These are real nice but I'd rather have a friend with one. My '04 Tahoe still does everything I need
I’ll be your friend.
No refrigerator tho! 🤣
great video! very informative and had no idea it had such unique features!
Porsches are indeed reliable just make sure to get a warranty...
Why would people need to get a warranty if they're reliable?
@@McVaio Warranties aren't required but they come in handy if the cars aren't sorted when they are bought. I bought one about 5 years ago that wasn't sorted out and spent a few grand making it right and haven't had any problems since. Thus; they are reliable but, and let me word this better for you, a warranty would be a good idea for peace of mind. I've seen many examples with several hundred thousand miles on them and still on the road.
Wow you know I always check cars to see if the visor moves to the side and slides back but porsche has really outdone my expectations here. Never actually seen this, freaking awesome!
thanks its a nice video, i was also surprise of some features of this car. and i always use it in a construction site during my inspection visits i agree its a reliable and a good car, in 2014 i bought a second hand porshce cayenne s 2009 yr model with only 30k kilometers done. and today year 2024 it is now 231k km done. the history of minor issues for me are, the coolant pipe at 130k km, fuel filter separator at 170k km, window motor, back door strut, replace of starter at 175k km. center bearing at 180k km, air suspension in front left and right at 200k km. so far so good today it is now 10 years i am driving and i love it with 231,000 kilometers still have the power to push you back to your seat when you step on the gas.......
If you want a lower maintenance Cayenne, get the diesel without air suspension (one with
Great advice. All things I do to make owning this beast more manageable!
had an '08 S for four years and didn't have one problem with it. like them so much I moved up to a '12 Turbo and got a 4 year warranty with it that has already paid for itself. couldn't be happier and nothing has run past me yet.
Smart on the warranty! More and more transfer case failures are popping up. Have you had that issue?
@@CarFanatic Yep, transfer case went out in it at 69,000 miles and had it dealer replaced under the warranty. Also had valve cover gaskets replaced after it was leaking oil at 71,000 miles. No other issues so far still have 12 months of warranty left.
The only thing is that if you get keys made for them by the dealer then they will cost at least $550 each. You will also need a good scan tool so that you can reset the service now light when you do an oil change on it.
Can't agree more! My 2008 Cayenne Turbo is soooooo nice.
I love my 955 Turbo and I will never sell it.
Me neither I have 957 turbo . Till I die she stays lol
Just bought a 2008 Turbo a month ago. Loving it so far!
Very nice!!
Has anything broken down yet?
@@ruimpinho had to replace the thermostat and water pump that's it so far. Wasn't overheating just throwing a coolant performance code
@@Horvath0819 thank you for the feedback. Good luck, great suv!
Cool vid. Agreed that the 1st Gen Cayenne is the best looking and you really only want the Turbo or the GTS. Nice flip flops too, I’m going to start wearing them in my Porsche from now on😍
Ha,lol. Thank you! Here are my flip flops, super comfy and cheap! amzn.to/3l8fH7o
The 2006 S Titanium model is nice too that's what I bought. Only thing I dislike is that compact spare tire I had to use it once and prefer to replace it with a full size 18 inch rim tire. Inflating it was creepy it looked like ut wanted to blow off the side.
I bought a 05 S model. We love it just over 120k now. Replaced fuel pumps that's all.
If you don't have to buy parts - Cayenne aftermarket parts are already expensive. I really don't want to know OEM part prices. Example? Headlight set Cayenne minimum $1,000. A Mercedes ML Headlight set is around $300... 👌
I'm trying to upgrade to a newer Cayenne, and you're putting out these videos which keep prices high lol
What year is yours?
I hate when youtubers do this
This is an awesome review. Thank you for doing this
A dealer near me was selling a 2010 Cayenne GTS for $15K a few years ago. I kinda wanted it, but was scared off by the maintenance costs and poor fuel economy. We ended up with a Q5 for my wife, it's been a good rig, but I do wish it had a bit more power. Off the line, that 2.0T is decent, but it's by no means fast.
I went from a Macan to an SQ5 and yes, first thing I noticed was the slower take off, however, the interior space was heavenly!
@@UinAZ Yeah, the Macan seems like a good, quick SUV for a young couple with no kids. But for a family? I mean, it's MQB, basically a Golf, and SUV needs more room for things and people!
I have a 2005 Cayenne S. I have only 24k miles on it, and only use it for short highway trips in the Mexican Yucatan. It still looks new, and I absolutely love it. So far I have done all regular fluid maintenance, and it will make its second only trip to the dealer for lower control arms.
In spite of the low mileage, the notorious speed bumps here combined with the weight of this SUV have prematurely worn the bushings out.
I will also replace the rear hatch struts, which are a little weak now, from age Vs use. The engine is amazing, as is the handling, and comfort of this amazing vehicle. For the price now of these amazing vehicles, and the timeless styling, it is a must consider option for a used SUV. Parts are available at low prices, and it is an easy vehicle to do minor service on. And after all, it is a Porsche. It looks amazing still, parked next to my two 911 Turbos.
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I had one of these and loved it! But I have to admit that I put a lot of maintenance into it over the 50k miles that I drove it. Did most of the work myself. Fine if this is your second car and don’t need it daily. Not great for a daily driver though.
Great video. I got a 2009 turbo no problems great car.
How’s the steering on it. Like while driving does it drive smooth
and how much does yours cost to maintain
@@JUSTYN23 steering is smooth it feels very solid. I don't do the maintenance at a Porsche dealer and it's relatively inexpensive. No major problems just oil and filters. I have done a complete fluid change once so far and things run well. my car only has 60K which is low for 2009 but I would buy another Cayenne.
In India or out of India
Great review of this marque. As the comments highlight when these go wrong, and they will, it’s a huge expense. Buy the best you can with lower mileage and full history as they do get some wear and tear. Also buy an electronic plug in fault code reader to see issues before the garage!
Great tips! I bought an aftermarket warranty which paid out $10k in repairs and preventative work (worn engine mounts and control arms).
I picked up iCarsoft Por-II OBD reader and it does everything you need it to for under $200 as opposed to Porsche Durametric which is big $$$. I can reset service reminders, read and clear codes, even retract brake calipers when doing brake pad replacement.
Who’d you get the warranty through ?
Love my 2010 GTS. Was actually a former celebrity’s car (Hillary Duff). However if you can’t do your own maintenance, prepare to shell out some coin. Parts aren’t too insanely priced, it’s the labor that will kill you.
So far in the two years I’ve owned I had to replace coils ($400), had a coolant vent line break under the intake ($40) then also replaced the starter ($250) while doing that repair. Then that remanufactured starter I installed was faulty and failed within a month so had to do it again. Now just got brake pad replacement notification so bought new rotors and pads all the way around for $600. The coolant line job would likely been $1,500+ in labor, brakes likely the same. It was intimidating at first to work on myself, but in the end it’s a car just like all the others I’ve wrenched on. You start to appreciate some of the design choices as it makes things easier to work on. Like the starter for example, at first I was like what moron decided to bury it under the intake, but after doing it a second time I realized how easy it is to not have to climb under the car and get all dirty.
At this point the only thing left on the possible maintenance is to replace the cardan shaft bearing carrier.
Wow thanks for sharing! Hope you're subscribed to the channel!
nice response. So curious, do people not get third party warranties when buying used vehicles like this, would save a lot in labor cost...
@@bikeninja956 I had a warranty through CarChex. Paid $3400 for it and it shelled out about $10k. It was all worth the money!
@@CarFanatic nice! I got a 3500$CAD platinum, third party warranty for my 2013 BMW X1 (now 66K kms.) so far, they paid 400$ on 1000$ (new batt and starter, obviously batt is not covered) worth of work and parts. I bought the vehicle in 2019. So far, so good. I wonder if I'll ever make that warranty worth my while lol.. seems like it would only pay off for more catastrophic failures...oh well, the good part is that it's transferable to the next owner so gives me some leverage during selling :) It's almost paid off, so now I have my eyes set on a Cayenne!
Thanks man I just purchased a 2015 Porsche Cayenne this video was informative and made me like my new girl even more 😇
Congrats!
I’m in the UK, now I’m seeing quite a few around.
Mine is a 2005 Cayenne s 955.
Admittedly its off the road at the moment. It’s not my main car, I just haven’t got time to run the Cayenne at the moment.
Its safely stored in a shed.
That is such a british thing. Have multiple cars to just store and not use. Isnt that money just being tied up in depreciating things?
@@unleasherR6 yeah I guess it is money tied up in something that depreciating. I bought it for less than market value, so it doesn’t matter to much.
The bank interest rate is less than inflation, and will be for some time yet.
Amen to that. Keeps the economy ticking.
Absolutely loving mine
My 2008 Cayenne Turbo has done some 150,000mls and it's one of my daily drivers. It has to be a - sort of - daily, because if it sits for 2+ weeks, it will bitch. Meaning, it won't start at first try, causinf some trouble codes to show up due to low voltage in the system. In order to avoid that, I'm driving it at least every other week.
In order to avoid outrageous repair-bills, I get even tthe tyiniest issues fixed immediately. And yes, there are issues coming up frequently.
But - and here's a big "but" - If you prefer driving a 500hp Porsche, fully loaded and superior to most everybody else on the road - that's what you have to put up with.
Yes, a Toyota will take you from A to B while costing you a fraction in maintenence. It depends on what you prefer, what your persnal taste is like and how fat your wallet is...
Wife an I looking at these in a serious manor.... this is helpful🤙
I would suggest lowest powered v6 and no air suspension. Make sure you get confirmation that the prop shaft has been upgraded they go pretty easily and it’s £800-1200 for a new one. Then you’ll have a reliable motor that looks good for plenty of cheap miles.
Problem is: you need a personal oil spring to feed that thing, but gas prices in the US are still dirt cheap in comparisn.
I am always of the opinion that if you are buying an older car, those above 10 years old, dont buy one with turbo. Turbo adds a lot of complexities to the machine and has more things to break. I rather sacrifice bhp for reliability. If I were to get one, the S or GTS will be a better choice
Very good video!
My take on future purchases. Get a compression test done. Typically norther colder climate Cayennes can have cylinder bore scoring for V8 turbo and non turbo models. It seems that 09 and 10 are the least affected by this issue.
Great advice! I would add getting the engine boroscoped too as a good precaution.
I was happy to get rid of my 2008 Cayenne S in 2016. It started becoming a money pit. The last straw was when I had to replace the CARB rated catalytic converters at $1,400 each. I've owned 5 Porsches and they're great driver's cars but Porsche has always been a bit late on driver convenience tech. For example, Bluetooth was not available until very late.
Just purchased a 2012 S with Porsche CPO warranty. Wish me luck!
What did that cost you for the warranty. I bought a 2011 S hybrid about 6 months ago. No issues so far but I don’t drive it much yet because of Covid.
I have been looking for a first generation Porsche Cayenne with the 6 speed manual transmission for quite a while.
Good luck with that one
I've following your channel for awhile now. I appreciate how thorough you are so much. That I got myself an 09' Turbo S. I'm sure it's the cheapest purchase in the U.S right now. I'm very happy with it.
Awesome! How much did you pay and what's the mileage?
Awesome! Couldn't agree more! 08 Cayenne past owner
awesome review! thanks man!
What about the maintenance cost?I got a Cayenne S 2012 with all the extras but boy o boy you need lots of money to maintain the Cayenne.they not that good at all😳
Most parts can be interchanged with Volkswagen and if you do your own work it's not more expensive then a new corolla.
Key word - do it yourself. With this approch any car is cheap to repair, but I am not a car mechanic.
Bro you really make sense!!
958 V8 TwinTurbo baby!!
I have to say that in my '08 turbo I am now using the 19 inch winter wheels and tires and comfort has gone up quite another level
I still have the 21s but apart from the aesthetics, which do look really cool, it ruins the handling, making acceleration worse, etc.
Also, when towing, one of the tires (Michelin 295/35R21) developed a bubble and had to change it (they were literally brand new, less than 500km)
They have a too slim sidewall for the car, it you are going to use the full potential of it and not just use it on the city and highway
How does on road handling feel with the 19s? I'm debating going with 19 or 20 inch wheels.
@@CarFanatic I am really happy with the 19s (which is the smallest our cars allow)
955 turbo can use 18s as they have smaller brakes
The car is much more comfortable
Also you feel it with less ballast (less weight)
In the handling department, you still have a vast amount of grip (I have the PDCC, which might also play a part)
I am using 255/50R19 Michelin Alpin5 (previously used the Pirelli Scorpion snow&ice)
I would say the car behaves really similarly to the 295/35R21, but with a bit less grip
The way in which it can attack a bend is the same, but the limit is a bit lower and it is easier to lock the brakes on the front or understeer a bit, specially when the tires start getting old or worn
Although in normal circumstances this situation does not occur
You would really want the car to understeer to make it happen
Enjoying 295/40/21 but wear on arch linings a definite unless maybe making some space
GM 2002 Pontiac Bonneville SSEI Supercharger had an air compressor built in the trunk
Porsches are great but I'll never buy a used one again. Only new or lease. Once they start to need to have stuff replaced, you better be prepared for the pain. Best cars on the planet imo, but its german, so no matter what you're going to get an over engineered vehicle that's going to cost you once it starts to get older.
You either pay upfront (new car) or pay in the rear with older models specifically with maintenance. They are especially expensive if you get them service at a shop. There are plenty of DIY online though to save you some money...
In greece this cayenne costs 30+k and we pay 1400$ a year to state to be able to drive it
Great video. Thanks for all the info. There's a GTS near by that's I'm looking at.
Awesome, good luck and don't be afraid to look at a few before you pick the right one.
I have problems with the doors of my PC model like the one in the video registered in 2007 but it still looking great…
I got a used 2013 Base and so far so good!
Awesome. Enjoy and hope you're subscribed!
@@CarFanatic Done
My husband and I bought a "slightly used" Cayenne and sold it 6 months later. We bought it from a Porsche dealership and had all the maintenance up to date and had about 23000 miles on it. We put 3000 miles on it in 6 months and when we took it in the dealership insisted we pay for the 40,000 mile maintenance at $2750!!! That was utter BS. So we sold it ASAP and bought a brand new BMW X5 m 50i. I'll NEVER buy another Porsche after that even though the car was gorgeous and I loved driving it. The maintenance was utter BS and a total scam.
Wow, that's why I recommend people stay away from the dealership. It's overpriced and many try to sell you on services you don't actually need. Even with your BMW, I recommend finding a good independent mechanic that you can trust. It will save you a lot of money in the long run!
The maintenance costs at the dealership are utterly ridiculous. Not sure how they justify those prices at all.
In Europe you can buy for 4k-5k 😊is a great Car, I love it 🥰
Yes they are great but the air suspension is a nightmare, i own an Audi Q7 and they are the same as Porsche Cayenne you need to replace the air suspension every 4 years depends on your driving style but usually around that period of time and they are costly for the OG parts. Butg these trucks are cool to drive.
its reliable, as long as your willing to pay for it...
Get the yellow brake calipers. Its worth the extra money.
I just got a Porsche Cayenne S 59,000 miles I wouldn’t dare roll it over rocks or take it in the woods…..
Hell Nawww 🤣
That's a good thing to asks
Video subtitles why Etc.
I've purchased a two SUV porchz from salvage yards !
Getting original OEM parts is an impossible
The rear of these 955/957 is kind of weird looking to me although i think this is an attractive SUV overall. The 958 is the one that really got me into the Cayenne and the fact that i am seeing them for under 20k now is nuts! Definitely going to get a 958 Cayenne once im done with my E70 BMW X5 hopefully the Porsche is as reliable as my 6 cyl turbo X5 is.
The 958 looks like a Mazda to me. Whereas 955 brake lights look like the Carrera GT's. Both the 955 and the 957 looks good all around. 955/957 were much better off road too, had a real 2-speed transfer case etc.
@@chir0pter yea i hear ya but i assure you 90% of people buying these vehicles are not going off road. The 955/957 just resembled the Toureg way too much for me (i know its the same platform). The interior was also a dramatic improvement way less cheap plastic as expected from a newer vehicle.
@@gilgonzalez5902 Not very much cheap plastic in my 957 GTS...also the 958 still shares a platform with the Touareg.
I have my second VW Touareg TDi and the one I have now has air suspension and pretty much everything the Cayenne has. But I get 1,000 km/600 miles per tank easily, that is 28-32 mpg, about twice the fuel efficiency of the Porsche V8 turbo gas version. I have better towing capacity and an engine that is just getting broken in at 100k miles. All-in-all, I love my Touareg TDi and think it is as good as my Lexus SC430, another bargain, and my Toyota Hilux 4x4 diesel. All together, with the Toyota bought new (as a tax write off in Mexico for my hotel there) I have under $50k USD invested and have a bullet-proof highly efficient go anywhere truck, a most luxurious, seriously capable off roader, sporty driving, economical SUV and a retractable hardtop by Lexus that has the silkiest drivetrain on the planet with Toyota reliability and unparalleled luxury from the bird's eye maple to the napa leather. All three for less than the VW or Lexus when brand new....and they will last a lifetime if maintained.
Like to brag much?..
@@chosenBYpicasso I appreciate what I have. And driving 10-20 year old vehicles I could afford to pay cash for has allowed me to enjoy a good lifestyle without ever earning a tremendous amount of income. Many today can learn from this, Never go in debt for something that depreciates, approach to life. But if you think driving 12 and 18 year old vehicles is bragging, then yes, sure why not. It is an accomplishment even a WalMart greeter can achieve with some discipline. And boy do I LOVE my cars.
And all three paid for when purchased, and equal LESS than the amount of the average NEW Car that folks are taking out 72 month and greater car loans on. You would not believe how many gas station attendants, store clerks or other part timers I meet driving $65-85k trucks, all on payments. UNBELIEVABLE! We have learned NOTHING from the 2007/08 subprime housing collapse, we are doing it with cars and trucks now.
@@UltraFence I've got about 60k wrapped up between gold, silver, & crypto.. But I drive a 2009 ford focus that falling apart probably worth $400.. Lol.. I'll have enough to have many cars and houses eventually.
@@chosenBYpicasso I hope it goes to the moon. Good Luck. I believe it will. I am just older and started saving and sacrificing many decades ago.
Bought my second one yesterday
If I had to pick one. I would choose a GTS
buy a RAM 1500 - it has german ride characteristics, keeps its value and does not gave the maintenance issues of the porsche
I LIKE MY 2009 CAYENNE S,👍👍👍👍
Awesome!
I just sold an 06’ Cayenne for $500. The guy who bought it got straight up robbed.
You had to be a magat
My 2008 cayenne s , abs ligth just came on the dealer said 6500 for a new abs hydraulic unit
the headligths are 2500 each . ..... time to trade her in
Great video!!! I have an '08 gts w/45k miles on it
It runs beautiful, I love it it's a lot of fun to drive.
It's just a summer vehicle, I live in New England , so I keep it garaged through the winter months and drive my 2004 platinum Nissan Pathfinder for the winter
That's quite a garage queen you have there 😁. Thanks for watching and hope you're subscribed!
should put some BFG's on it, be awesome off roader with good tires! Baha that bad boy!
I really want to, but I don't go off-roading enough. So I'm stuck in a position where all terrain tires don't make sense and neither does having two sets of wheels. So I'm think it might make sense to downsize the wheels to 19 or 20 inch wheels and run a high performance all season. I would at least have a little more sidewall. We'll see though.
Mine came with 22 inch rims but paying almost 200 per tire was not acceptable so sold those to get a base model 18 inch set
My favorite used suv.
I would have got a Cayenne if I knew how capable they were a month ago. I ended up with a Lexus GX that I put work into it. The GX is a great vehicle but it's not a Porsche. 🤷♂️
I have a gx too but I need to taste this
I have a 2008 Lexus RX400 hybrid. Owned for 8 years with 300,000kms on it. My maintenance costs so far have been an oil and filter change every year.
Appreciate your videos. I’m looking hard at a 2006 S non turbo. It’s a real toss up because the price and condition is good but when you mentioned only the Turbo models being truely ionic, maybe I should look around harder. Not sure 🤔
I have a 2004 Cayenne S 132k
Wife iterally drives it just like 50 miles a week right now. Took it to big bear and it was a beast in the snow.
However come June...I say goodbye
Join the club my Cayenne S with 41km on the clock with R482 000-00 of extras + - 31 000 dollars,spend in 2020 about 5000 dollars on repairs and running cost.try to sell it ,but was going to loss all the extras 31 000 dollars now we need to drive it to the end .
How's the repair/maintenance cost for last 6 years in total? thanks.
I got the 08 GTS just do your oil change then you good to go
i love my cayenne s v8 its beautiful
Hi bro
I planned to buy a cayenne of 1st generation, which one is the best model? (Less problems)
3.2? 3.6? 4.5? 4.8?
Just here, ONE ENTIRE YEAR LATE TO THIS TITLE!!!
On built, as you say air on some UK Fire Engines (Trucks), providing you have the correct adapters! :-)
Do you have PDCC on your Cayenne? Any thoughts about it?
Air suspension is great until it breaks and it will .... The sweet spot is the Cayenne S not the turbo ...less trivial features that won't fail ... The 955 Cayennes overall are great suvs not to mention abrams tank safe ... Future collectables and the last of the old school real German suv's
I hear you on the air suspension, but that's what allows the Cayenne to be versatile. I figure I'll bite the bullet and shell out $4k to replace the air suspension if it goes out. Thanks for watching and hope you're subscribed!
@@CarFanatic well if it's any consolation all the SUVs with air suspension at some point fail my friend just sunk 6K into his Range Rover air suspension I just don't like it but I hear you
I currently own two Touareg V10 TDI and the V8 prior. The V10 weight 6000lbs and I have zero issue with air suspension. Yes, I tow a lot with it. Makes me wondered if you have own one of this beast?
With so many aftermarket parts its repair bills are the same as a corolla these days worth it 👌
@@timleng4404 Yes two of them ..both S models without air suspension ...Here in Canada the weather does not help with making them last. I have seen many with this issue.