DON'T PICK WRONG! BEST LUCILIUS SIGILS TO INVEST IN - Granblue Fantasy Relink
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Sacrificing a Supplementary DMG for a utility still results in a GAIN in DPS if you're reaching the new DMG Cap! Though, the gain will be smaller than if you DIDN'T need to sacrifice it.
Lucilius Speedrun Guide soon, just optimizing atm :)
Gamma's wording could mean that you only get 1 Hit of damage resist that resists up to 50k damage
So theoretically you could lose the shield if you take even a single damage as long as it's 1 instance of damage taken
Which given the wording of Alpha if that only gives 13% gauge even though it says 30% I'm more inclined to believe that w/o a demonstration
I’d argue Supplementary is still RNG albeit more on your side as max 2 of them is at 74% chance while 2 of any of these new sigils is basically a guarantee
You probably need that Tyranny to stay under 45K HP for Catastrophe though. Maybe if you also took off Aegis ... but that's also your Auto-Revive.
These sigils are not that good if your character uses cdr sigils as dps sigils, which is a lot of characters. Even when I look at straightforward characters like vaseraga.. it looks like he easily benefits from the extra dmg cap but he has a hard time reaching the cap even without these new sigils, it's almost impossible to cap his first charged atk on his xxyy combo and the next 2 charged swings needs a comical amount of dmg sigils to reach cap.
Feels like these new sigils are an indirect buff to underwhelming characters who had nothing better to slot in prior to this patch.
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As a Vaseraga main, I see that Alpha sigil and it makes my eyes glow as if I've activated Immortal Pain!
Happy to see you Make great guides from an awesome videogame, objectively way better than Genshin that deserves more recognition
I have the Alpha, it's realistically only very useful on Lucilius
edit - this is because when you use your SBA with your AI team with full burst, even if you cast it last your team will still be at 0% SBA gauge this is because you cannot gain them when doing SBA
so what you need to do is let 2/3 teammates use their SBA then you use it after their animation, then they will gain the SBA boost
in Lucilius fight you can cancel *Paradise Lost* by casting 1 SBA burst, so this sigil is important so your teammates gain fast SBA for another burst
Big tip btw - * you only need 2 +14 sigils if you have Terminus weapon* you cannot use Azurite when upgrading
You can't use azurite splendor to max upgrade the new sigil?
yes you can't
@@steinway_gamingwhats all the material needed to max it? Total tears, residue and such
@@Xjesus14X some nihilla mats and around 6 or 7 tears
@@steinway_gaming Gotcha. Tryna farm these sigils for Sig, Kat plus Sofeon and Tweyen when they get here. Using Cap and Eugen now so i’ll get some for the too. Gamma> Alpha> Beta
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Damn, nice surprise seeing you do GBFR content!
Great video as always
Before I got to play and saw what alpha did I thought it would be the greatest thing ever but it seems like 2 gamma is what most class setups would run with the other 2 being your choice. And you’re right about SBA cycling, we have a 48 sec kill already with 4 Lancelots
Build my 3 Ai's with 2 alpha's, 30-45 uplift ,30 linked together and 30 nimble onslaught and loving it. I got rid of all supp Vs on them them. Can kill Lucilius in 5:30m to 6:30m depending on if I can get the 1st SBA before the 80% HP transition. Never killed him online (tried once, but people coudln't do 12 labours) but the AI is really good on the mechanics. Other bosses also die faster if you can trap them in SBAs during overdrive, way less cutscenes to watch!
You gotta know your character's damage distribution as well as their caps to choose these optimally, and then the max level passive might not even fit for them. I do think gamma is the safest option if you're unsure, and it's passive is generally the best among the three with beta being the second. Especially now that we know the endgame after Bahamut favours survivability over just pure damage, that 50k shield is gonna save some asses.
Kinda interest on beta breakdown, something like Rosetta spiral rose would benefit it since it has low cd.
Been wondering if I should use the betas for my vane build cuz I get his skills back very quickly and use them alot
Good video will you be doing a character by character breakdown so we can decide what sigils are best for them? I main Zeta and I’m thinking the Alpha one is best but I also use Ferry, Lancelot and Vane. I’ve beaten Lucilius a few times, had two tears of apocalypse 😭 so when I do finally get enough I really don’t want to waste them
I'll probably just do quick character guides
@@BraxAlter quick guides is better than 15 mins or more spent not talking about the actual subject so sounds a good plan will keep an eye out for them nice one
When the new Lances get their hands on Gamma 30, we'll be seeing plenty of people get the Superstar Nova 💪
I’m just going to get two of all of them since we don’t know how they’re going to balance everything.
I already got my Alpha and Gamma to max level 30, and currently I have enough tears mats to buy a Beta sigil.
I plan to test having all these sigils at level 30 and see if my character would go bonkers due to it.
I grinded Lucilius with randoms in coop and it was fun. I main Cagliostro on pure dps build. She’s insane against Lucilius. I even had a random coop with all Cagliostro in it and Lucilius died faster than any of my runs.
What's your cagliostro build if I may ask
@@blacksama5774 my build currently:
Sigils (all max level)
2x alpha+
2x gamma+
1x founder’s awakening+
War elemental
3x Supp V
Tyranny V+ (aegis)
Crit rate V+ (stamina)
Linked together V+ (potion hoarder)
Terminus weapon imbue:
Crit rate lvl 8
Auto revive lvl 7
Guts lvl 3
If I want more survivavility, I just swap one of supp V to my Improved dodge+ (auto revive) and stout heart if I don’t want to get thrown around easily.
Remember that azurite DOES NOT work on these sigils. Upgrading them also cost tears as well. So the grind to max it out is going to be real lol
Isn’t it basically use 2 of each sigils? Like 2 gammas and then 2 alphas or 2 betas based on whether the character does more for normal attacks or skills?
I am thinking of using 1 alpha, 2 gamma, and 1 beta
you ideally want 2 gamma, and one of other two
That’s what I thought, I’m just gonna get 2 alpha and 2 gamma. And maybe farm 5 more tears extra for next update
As someone who is still catching up to endgame and is mostly playing Id and Cagliostro until Sandalphon comes out, which would you say are the best pickups for those two?
Cagilostro. When you get to Lucilius youre more than likely getting one shot no matter what you get hit by unless it's his normal swinging. Cagi gives phantasmogoria which helps with def buff which has helped me tank a luci mine sometimes. Also has revive which is really good for progging. Id is just a damage dealer, unless you really like him there are better damage dealers to pick up and one of them is Cagi.
The overall dmg cap is better all 3 will use both skills and normal atks alot Ive seen sand his gameplay and skills so you can trust mee in this one
is the 50% damage cut lost from the flight over fight worth the run or should I just run improved dodge?
If you can reach damage cap through the damage cut I'd say it's worth it
but if you're going for a dodge based build I'd also suggest Nimble Onslaught and uplift if you can afford it
FoF is better, especially if you have lv30 nimble onslaught on your build
Do does gamma use the same dmg cap as the original or does the 30% apply over the 250% we get? does gamma give you 280% of does it count in the 250
Gamma raises the damage cap beyond the 250% (250+30=280) it has its OWN damage cap. So yes gamma is the best one since the damage cap it raises for ALL DAMAGE skills and normal atks and SBA and the shield is 50000hp and its not on a timer so you can have it the entire fight.
As a Zeta main alpha is the way
I thought that as well, skill one isn’t bad for her either but if only farming lucilius then yeah Alpha is what I was thinking 😂
Just got 2x alpha and 2x gamma all lv14 using 32 tears. So far, I came back to my old playstyle without using utility sigils except potion hoarder haahah
So are the sigils the only new thing we can get from fighting Lucy? It was assumed there'd be new weapons but not seeing anything about that
I think that it was speculated that we'd get new weapons from luci but the sigils were a guarantee we'd get. I guess it came from the purchasable from the store that looks like one of his weapons. Probably.
nah no new weapons as of now plus it makes sense considering some people dont have terminus yet or just started the game so farming weapons back to back might be too overwhelming for some people
I mean if they had Lucius be a Maniac difficulty fight with a proud mode variation, it could of been a good alternative for the new sigils are farmed in Maniac and the weapons in proud difficulty.
Which not everyone is gonna be at full damage cap V+ sigils by the start of proud mode and outside of the save scuming, the new sigils could of been good entry points and in some unit cases, amazingly good on units that focus thar beeg dmg in specific ways.
Its the fact that by the time post have already finished up proud difficulty, they likely already went thru the turmor of a perfect damn build and wasted no time hitting terminus due to it being way more OP then any other weapon thanks to its unique effect.@@kittykedama7643
I’m fairly new to this game, how do you know you’ve hit the damage cap?
You get the same number over and over when attacking
If you see slashes go through your numbers, youre at cap
as Brax said you see slashes but I would like to add that those slashes are yellow and if you are hitting the weakspot of the enemy you can pretty easily see yellow slashes with circles effect that also means you are hitting damage cap (its easier to see dmg slashes when you are not going against monster that weak to your element aka. blue numbers)
once you reach endgame, you can use this calculator to see how much you're hitting the cap. Its fairly accurate from some of the damage numbers I've noticed. Damage cap is fairly noticeable from both the yellow-ish outline+slashes on the damage number and also cause they're all the same value. You can test by going to the grandcypher and hitting the training dummy.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RnNLfdqFCW7zWvfHnQsNRJoi7EtIjdOUg-uYB0xsZHQ/edit#gid=1519714141
Also you’ll know if all the numbers are being repeated constantly
remember to only lvl 14 your sigils on upgrading because of sigil booster :)
I'm using 2 gamma and 2 alpha on my rackam
Used a full support Djeeta and i managed to beat him with CPU team. Granted my CPU team is built up but yea it works
I'm still kinda confused about the alpha sigil and it relates to a problem i have with this game. It doesn't do the best job at relaying or presenting information. Why does it say dmg cap +40% if it's only 13? Where does the 40 come from? Also people thought cascade just straight up didn't work cuz they did such a poor job explaining it. Not to mention their refusal to give us actual numbers in the patch notes to know how much things were adjusted.
40% normal attack damage cap, 30% of 10% SBA extra added when you SBA, so teammates gain 13% SBA
Like what Brax said, 13% doesn’t refer to the damage cap but to the SBA gain to the other team members. Whenever you use a SBA, everyone else gains 10% SBA if they haven’t used it yet in a SBA chain. The Sigil effect says +30% gauge gain, and it’s +30% to the base 10%, resulting in 13% total rather than an actual flat 30% to the 10% for a total of 40%.
@@BraxAlter Oh okay. I must've misheard while watching the video then. My bad.
For my for example Charlotta gave very hard and almost impossible to hit lunge dmg cap making double alpha double beta kinda a waste unless you have big external buffs from allies, even having 4 dmg sigils you don't hit the cap. That's why having 1 beta, 1 alpha and 2 gamma is better, or even 2 beta instead of alpha, or better just only use 3 lucilius sigils drp alpha and keep some QoL or defensive utility. Is all about knowing your character and weigh in trade offs.
Do you even need 4 of them? Maybe 2 alpha+, 1 beta+, 1 gamma+ ??
You lose the real buff at level 30, that's why you need 2 of each (2 of 3 new sigil)
But honestly, it's a lot of grind, I'm just happy to close one and i'm out (Gamma is my call)
Rosetta guide for the new sigils please. She's the only one I care to use these for
Menace running that character
@@rejxdmouse is she that bad? 😭 Should i abandon my main and just level up someone else?
@@Borderlines I mean she isn’t great by any stretch. Awesome support I guess 🤔
If I used only 4, I'd be looking at 2 Gamma, 1 Alpha, 1 Beta. Gamma is better than the second alpha or beta mathematically.
Personally I'm looking to test 2 Alpha, 2 Gamma and 1 Beta for the biggest damage build, I think the characters I play can meet those caps.
Pragmatically though, I have two Alphas upgraded so far, and I slotted them on my AI. Not giving up defensives like 2x Nimble Onslaught and Autorevive while farming Lucilius. Maybe once I'm perfect at the fight 😂
which better sigil for zeta, katalina and ferry?
I use 2 alphas on my zeta she’s all about smacking the enemy with as many Arveress hammers as possible with 2 maxed alphas my hammer went from 650k dmg to 715k dmg
I do 31m on the damage dummy without glass cannon now after her loop and wonders nerf without nerf if be closer to 40m
what should I get for io
2x gamma 1x alpha 1x beta
As a charlotta main, im so thorn because all three of these sigils can work with her.
Nah it's only Alpha and Gamma. Most of Charlotta skills aside from Sword of Lumiel aren't that great, she's the only character I have built. Shining Onslaught is a Gap Closer the Def Down is just an added bonus and Holy Ladder is used a ranged option. Tbh her skills are lacklustre and most of her damage comes from her Normal attacks.
@citrusquill7609 mhm, maybe, I'm just looking at how often you stay within noble stands, With her skill rotation, i honestly use her skills way much more than hitting normal attacks but im max cool down and cascade
Im curious about combo cancel dodging, is that count as normal atk or skill ?
@@lemouth193 normal attack
I've farmed double alpha and double gamma to 14, in random queue its not hard.
Lucilius ain't that bad after you learn the fight and get the right AI, gotten him down to 6-7 min runs already with only 1 of the new sigils. I get peoples complaints early on, but just like proto, once you play more it becomes a breeze.
Which AI members and which main char do you use for Lucilius?
@@BriddahOnFire AI is Eugene, Cag, Rackam, I play as Zeta. You can also swap the cag spot around for some others. I've been looking to move the ai to Zeta and pick someone else to play lately.
You cna also AFK it if you're on steam and set up the macro buttons. Have afk runs down to 7-8 mins now as well. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to be able to tab out while doing it this way though.
@@Flupperz Thanks for your answer! Well I'm not even thinking about AFKing stuff like that, I'm currently still struggling a bit to defeat Proto Bahamut consistently 😅 But it's always interesting to see which characters people use for which bosses. Rackam and Eugen are in my AI team pretty much all the time, too. But I play Percival and the 4th member is mostly Id or Ferry (depending if the boss is weak to the light element for example). I'm also planning to unlock another character soon, just for fun. But still don't know which one... I'm thinking maybe Charlotta, or Cagliostro, but I'm also interested in Vaseraga, or Siegfried, or... Well, pretty much all of them 😅
@@BriddahOnFire If you're struggling with Proto, especially the dps phase, I'd try to conserve your last SBA until the burst phase since it pauses the timer. Otherwise, I generally let everyone free burst even if it's not a full burst. I eventually got that to semi afk, mainly checking for the shield crystal phase, after 50% generally, and to control the final bursts, before the new sigils when I got 3 terminus weapons with eugune, zeta and ferry (before the nerf). With the new sigils I can full afk and they'll clear it most of the time, swapping ferry for Rackam.
@@Flupperz Yes that's exactly what I did now, let the KI use their burst freely at first, but then switch to hold when we're near the dps check at the end. If the quest fails, it's mostly because someone got hit right before the golden orbs phase, or I myself take too long to get to the canon so the AI is late as well.. But I'm getting the hang of it. Actually I had about 13 successfull tries so far (and about 8 or 9 fails), and at try nr. 11 I got Katalinas terminus weapon, which is sad because I used her a lot until the proud missions but then switched her out because she just doesn't do enough damage, so I don't really use her anymore... But at try nr. 13 I got another terminus weapon, and guess for who: My main, Percival!! Very lucky 🥳
What I've been NOT lucky with are the sigils... I have only one supp. dmg sigil which I got yesterday, and one war elemental, but that one I bought from the dlc, no drop yet after 170 hours of playing the game
What’s good for narmaya? Is it alpha and gamma?
You can slot both. 2alpha 2gamma. Remove supp damage and add survivability and cooldown reductions plus tyranny and stamina to max out the cap. It will be stronger than having supp damage. 3 supp damage = 20% dps increase while having gamma and alpha gives you more than that overall.
@@lsnexus2080 no i mean between 3 type sigils. Should i choose alpha and gamma? Or alpha beta or beta gamma
@@henrykurniawan4706 2alpha 2gamma. They stack since gamma is overall dmg cap :)
isee okay thankss @@lsnexus2080. Supp damage only 2?
@@lsnexus2080 oh i see thankss. Do narmaya only need 2 supp damage? The others can be anything?
So just to confirm again Gamma+ damage cap is an additional beyond the level 65 damage cap ?
Yep! 😄
does djeeta dps need any of these?
the only one that seems useful for her is the ability damage one since most of damage is from abilitys but i haven’t even beat him yet so i would probably search around online for info abt that
@@papabootleg2695 my problem is before this patch my djeeta and the rest of the team was already minmaxed and there is nothing to give up to fit these new ones in. so I think I pass for now
Have u tried katalina against lucilius?
Yeah it's annoying but doable!
@@BraxAlter did u change your build?
I'll just get 2x of all 3 anyway 😅
these sigils arent worth the grind and the fact you cant use a splendor is complete bs
2 gamma shield stack?
No, gamma only gained the shield when it reached lv 30. Which means 2x lvl 15 gamma = shield
Honestly Uplift probably works better than relying on someone else's SBA, which he may or may not even use.
And if you put it on yourself and the guy saves his SBA anyway then its also useless. Cause SBA is also often used to just skip phases, people keep it for overdrive or something.
not to mention if the other guy doesn't generate their SBA faster than the rest, then the passive is completely useless
Wow I just did my first offline run and I only got him down to 70% before he destroyed me
Rip youtube auto deleting my comment
People who play down the sigils are also the ones struggling to beat him. It's natural to play down the value of things you fail it.
I mean… it genuinely isn’t worth the grind at the moment, the sigils are great but the opportunity cost to run them, and the grind to make them usable… sucks… like a lot…
To give an example nobody in elden ring would argue the fingerprint shield is BAD, many would say it’s the best in the game, but the cost to actually RUN it, and how far you need to go to make even get it make it generally infeasible to use.