V-Strom 650 is OUT | Himalayan 450 is IN

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
  • Hello,
    After much deliberation for months I have finally come to the decision to replace my Suzuki V-Strom 650 with the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450. I explain as to how and why I have arrived at this decision.
    Cheers!
    #bigbearbangalore #himalayan450 #vstrom650xt #royalenfield #suzukimotorcycles

ความคิดเห็น • 701

  • @9973joe
    @9973joe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    As we age gracefully, our options narrow done to ease , practicality, lesser flamboyance , minimal headache - personal perspective though!

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🙏🙏🙏 so beautiful said. 😍

    • @vikramwadhwani6174
      @vikramwadhwani6174 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very very true. Nicely put bro 🤘🌝

  • @savvy7953
    @savvy7953 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    This is the Actual Channel where you genuinely can learn 👍

  • @travelfanatic9124
    @travelfanatic9124 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    No youtuber or vlogger has such a matured content❤❤❤

    • @the_hustling_wanderer
      @the_hustling_wanderer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I like BBB and MotorInc, both are great🙌

    • @krishnasathya5272
      @krishnasathya5272 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly 💯 both

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🙏

    • @akashpaul4925
      @akashpaul4925 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I came here to check if someone mentioned @motoronic @shumi

  • @herethereandelsewhere1941
    @herethereandelsewhere1941 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Definitely right choice, thinking of doing the same!
    Fed up with heavy and powerful bikes that I use only at 50% of their potential.
    Really waiting restlessly for the Himalayan to arrive in Europe to test it!
    Warm greetings from Romania by the way!
    Ride long, Ride safe! ✌✌✌

    • @abhinashkumar3161
      @abhinashkumar3161 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      U gonna love it's suspension

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Many thanks. Hope the H450 arrives there soon. Cheers!

  • @krishnendudas7537
    @krishnendudas7537 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Thank you sir!! Atleast there are some people,who are practical enough to choose the right Motorcycle and actually guide a lot of Motorcycle enthusiasts to know how its difficult to maintain a big machine when you can spend the budget in goid riding gears and for Touring Itself ❤...

  • @coffee_on_iv
    @coffee_on_iv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Bosski and CK, gotta appreciate that backdrop. It's amazing.

    • @vikramwadhwani6174
      @vikramwadhwani6174 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Would love to know where this place is.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      River Valley View Homestay Mukkodlu

    • @senthurbalaji
      @senthurbalaji 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing the location!

    • @KTDA79
      @KTDA79 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigbearbangalorethanks for sharing..

    • @vinodpatangay7881
      @vinodpatangay7881 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thinking of Replacing My Inti 650 with Himi 450 !

  • @SunilshanbhoghBiker
    @SunilshanbhoghBiker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bosski and CK you both are the perfect pair to analyze the bike with the brain then the heart. Thank you Big Bear Bangalore for the content. Now I am confused about selling out my interceptor. 650.

  • @hotice31
    @hotice31 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hell, I want a 650 cc bike.
    Nothing can convince me to change my decision.
    But then, that’s what love for a large motorcycle is. Isn’t it?
    But great logical analysis.

    • @anaythefuzz
      @anaythefuzz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      even i feel the same. i have ridden a versys 650 for the last 3 years now and I cant imagine trading it for a smaller motorcycle. heck I just want it to get bigger.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Enjoy your 650cc. To each their own. Cheers!
      And just because I gave away my larger CC motorcycles, it doesn't mean I don't love them.

    • @anaythefuzz
      @anaythefuzz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigbearbangalore loving every moment on it. Cheers!

  • @SyedMunavarAli
    @SyedMunavarAli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, Folks. I have been following your channel for quiet some time, you guys rock! Well, i will be completing my 59 years in this prithvi soon and i too want "Ease, Practicality, Minimal headache (maintenance issues) & Lesser flamboyance". Till now i have been a car guy, been there + done that. My first car was in 2001, a Ford iKON 1.8 D (anyone recalls that model?). It was a damn good car, smooth, fast and fun to drive. Gave excellent mileage too, with a tank full of diesel, i could drive to Tiruchy from Chennai and be back too. A full tank of diesel cost me around Rs.680, definitely less than Rs.700. Those were the days! I had one Yamaha RX135 too in my garage at that time. Boy! Should i even talk about the excellency of that motorcycle? Guess not. Well, to cut a long story short, now i want to go back to motorcycling again. And i am strictly a Highway Man. Having not ridden a motorcycle for the past 22 years, after checking out almost all the motorcycles available in the Indian market now, i have finally narrowed down my choice to 2, Suzuki Vstrom SX 250 & Honda CB 300F. But Vstrom is kind of too flamboyant for my style and am seriously thinking about purchasing Honda CB 300F. "Ease, Practicality, Minimal headache (maintenance issues) & Lesser flamboyance) being my check boxes to be ticked. Honda CB 300F, in my opinion, ticks all the boxes right. Any suggestions? If you have read my message fully, i thank you for your patience. Namaskara.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing.
      Guess you've already made your choice. Best wishes. 🙏

  • @krisachar
    @krisachar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Beautiful location and great videography.❤

  • @sudhism1402
    @sudhism1402 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Poppy blue is the best color scheme for my eyes too 😍(which I had booked & cancelled later) & the accessories are elevating its style👍

  • @kseth6992
    @kseth6992 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The same thought has entered my mind about replacing my GS 1200 Rallye , but with the next iteration of the Himalayan … ( tubeless spokes + other improvements ) .

  • @Gurman01
    @Gurman01 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First time watching here, left with a big smile, thank you an enjoyable video

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks.

  • @vishravarsr7794
    @vishravarsr7794 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When it comes to replacing, I am not even able to convince myself to replace my Himalayan BS3 'the lorry'. The only reason is it does certain things very well that I care about, including the pocket friendliness. Now I feel I can test drive 450. Kudos to this vlog.

  • @Robert-ui4dc
    @Robert-ui4dc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zrobiłem dokładnie to samo . Miałem 10 lat VStroma 650, ale po przejechaniu się na Himalayanie podjąłem decyzję o zmianie. Jestem zachwycony możliwościami tego motocykla. Prawdziwy "Jeep" wśród motocykli. Pozdrawiam z Polski.

  • @srk1200
    @srk1200 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very prudent decision. Wishing you a wonderful ownership. I am also tempted to buy one but since most of my touring is 2-up fully loaded on 1200cc not sure how much of a compromise I have to make. But being on the other side of 50 now, heavier bikes do become a liability in many situations....
    But this Himalayan being so good...in another 2 years will we be seeing everybody and their neighbour riding a Himalayan 450...it becomes the National Motorcycle of India!😄

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. Yes, it's about evolution of one's riding.

  • @RameshPula
    @RameshPula 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The exact thoughts that gone through before purchasing my first adventure bike. Happy with my choice.

  • @NeerajSalaria_FreeSoul
    @NeerajSalaria_FreeSoul 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for simplifying it so well !!! Love your content 😍🙂👍

  • @passionandcommonsense
    @passionandcommonsense 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Himalayan 450 also is a heavy motorcycle. The 196kg kerb weight that they publish is with 90% fuel. With a full tank the motorcycle is easily 200 plus kgs. For a single that is heavy. The power to weight ratio makes little sense. If you wanted a lighter and easier to handle motorcycle then the 390 Adv is the way to go. It is 20kgs lighter than the Himalayan 450. Handles superbly. Only issue is the buzzy feeling on the bars, pegs and seat. But then the Himalayan 450 isn’t winning any awards in the refinement department either.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Agree and I like the H450 more than the 390A.

    • @CowKora
      @CowKora 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Factually even with 100% full tank the bike will weigh 196+ 1.2. Am not counting in the accessories weight. Cheers

    • @passionandcommonsense
      @passionandcommonsense 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CowKora that’s somehow hard to believe. Because if the bike weighed less than 200 kgs fully laden with fuel, then RE’s marketing team would be plastering that aspect across the entire planet. But they aren’t doing that. Instead they say 196 kgs and then put a caveat of 90% fuel. Why?
      Every motorcycle out there publishes kerb weight fully laden with fuel and fluids. RE knows that this one aspect is critical and that people will be looking for it. So they found a brilliant way to shape the narrative by saying 196kgs; and then tacking on the “with 90% fuel” to give themselves room for defense.
      Also if the motorcycle is truly light, then we would have heard everyone say that in the reviews. And no one has done that so far. In fact I have heard multiple people say that the Himalayan 450 is heavy. Maybe not as heavy as its siblings; but it certainly hasn’t been praised as a light motorcycle.
      (Compare that to the reviews of say the Honda Transalp (different segment I know); which has a published kerb weight of 208 kgs; and every reviewer mentions how light it feels. I myself test rode it and was blown away with the light weight on a 755cc bike)

    • @twowheeledparadox
      @twowheeledparadox 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@passionandcommonsense 90 percent of this bike's fuel capacity is 15.3 litres. That is just 1.7 litres of fuel that they are not counting and it's only 1.2 to 1.3 kg.

    • @passionandcommonsense
      @passionandcommonsense 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@twowheeledparadox that’s being too literal about it. All I know is that if the bike weighed less than 200kgs fully laden with all fluids, then RE would have made sure to drill that fact into all of our brains. The fact that they haven’t done that makes me think that this bike is easily over 200kgs kerb weight.
      The only way to know for sure is for someone to weigh a stock bike fully laden with fuel.

  • @shivnarayan7164
    @shivnarayan7164 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kudos and good job as always!! Bosky, CK and the mysterious camera man

  • @alanpestell8657
    @alanpestell8657 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well reasoned argument has helped me decide what my next bike may well be. Much Love to you two guys, Bosky and CK, the greatest double act since Del and Rodney!

  • @crispinleslie
    @crispinleslie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I very much enjoyed listening to you two gentlemen debate and discuss two real world bikes.

  • @ANJANBRAO
    @ANJANBRAO 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +102

    Hero splendor plus is best for all and everything.....😂

    • @milanswarnim
      @milanswarnim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thats our life

    • @user-tns1986
      @user-tns1986 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      75-90 all day crusing with 55+kmpl

    • @vikramwadhwani6174
      @vikramwadhwani6174 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Or Bajaj CT110 😊❤my current bike........

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      All and everything is a bit of an exaggeration. 😊

    • @ANJANBRAO
      @ANJANBRAO 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      More people are thinking splendor plus is the best bike.....😊

  • @giridhars4821
    @giridhars4821 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By the same parameters, V-Strom 250 SX is a better choice than Himalayan 450. My riding buddy goes everywhere with it. Japanese engine far better than RE in terms of top-end,even low-end, refinement, touring, bad roads, far cheaper maintenance etc.. Only thing it wont be that good, is in proper off-roading. Though many have taken it to Spiti, Ladakh etc.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. Why not. Whether the 250sx is better or not is debatable. In my opinion the H450 has a better engine, better suspension. But that doesn't matter. To each their own.

  • @tuanoful
    @tuanoful 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am a previous VSTROM owner, the 650xt. Had an accident and I am now, 2 years later, looking to get back on the saddle. The vstrom here, where I live, is TWICE THE COST OF THE HIMALAYAN!!!! insane.
    They made the decision for me

  • @thisisDway
    @thisisDway 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Makes a lot of sense…tats how am thinking right now for my 3rd motorcycle….decisions are being made with head now…when we choose with heart the bikes using us instead of us using the motorcycle

  • @gauravbhandari732
    @gauravbhandari732 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you’re more into adventure / touring bikes, but would love to hear your take on smaller yet bit premium bikes for daily commuting? Likes of Honda cb300f, Yamaha mt 15, NS250, Gixxer 250 and more.
    Aaaaand while we’re at it, can you also review electric scooters like Aether, Chetak, Ola and the likes 😂
    We know we can watch N-number of other videos but would love to hear your take and have some fun along the buying journey 😅

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, correct. And will check on this possibility. Thanks & regards. 😊🙏

  • @shafiqueansari3117
    @shafiqueansari3117 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's always a pleasure to hear both of u for hours and hours,it's logical knowledge sharing with us,thanks guru

  • @ssandeep2687
    @ssandeep2687 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Appreciate your rational and practical choice boski and sharing those words of wisdom and experience with us all. 🙌🏼 But yet, as riders and enthusiasts where most move by feeling and excitement. On a casual note ಯಾವದಾದ್ರೂ ಇರಲಿ, ಎಷ್ಟಿದ್ರೂ ಸಾಕು ಅಂತ ಅನ್ಸಲ್ಲ, ಅಲ್ವಾ .😊

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks.
      Yes!
      Yeh dil maange more! 😊

    • @ssandeep2687
      @ssandeep2687 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigbearbangalore hahahah yussss!!! Thank you for reciprocating boski! Cheeevers!

  • @7rahe13
    @7rahe13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Respect your decision sir. I am a proud V Strom 650 owner myself and I agree with your “functional” assessment of the motorcycle. I own a Mojo along with the Suzuki and the reason why I bought the Suzuki was to have a different “experience”. Each motorcycle comes with its unique character and comparing only the functional aspects while making a decision would only be half of the story. So, for me, I would cherish the diversity of experience over the functionality alone. The Himalayan is a great motorcycle and may even be more functional than the V Strom, but it wont even come close to match the charisma of the V twin motor and the Suzuki’s riding experience. Just my 2 cents sir, but all the best to your future rides on the RE and Triumph. Long live the V Strom.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the comment and agree. And each of our motorcycling evolves differently and the needs and wants change. There is no right or wrong rather an individual choice. Thanks.

  • @MototechWanderer
    @MototechWanderer 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not questioning your decision, but few pointers :
    1. EBC Brake Pads = 4k a set
    2. Tyres MRF : 9.5k a set
    3. Air filter replaced every 18k kms and cleaned every 6k kms.
    4. Chain going strong at 30k kms on odo
    5. 2.7 litres of fully synthetic oil replaced every 6k kms.
    6. Bought my Vstrom for 8.25L on road.
    216 kgs vs 196 kgs, neither are light, so happily living with my lovely Vstrom 650. Happily did Zanskar & Umlingla on my 2020 Vstrom 659. To conclude, to everyone, there own. Cheers 😊

  • @AhWeNahSshhh
    @AhWeNahSshhh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched the video intently, everything made complete sense and now I’m contemplating life.

  • @wondersmee
    @wondersmee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The way he calls you Bosski, its kinda cute to hear. 😊

  • @tusharkumaresan1805
    @tusharkumaresan1805 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agree 💯 with you. Faced the same with TRK 502X, so switched to 450. Oh boy! Didn't know what fun I was missing out on. Again, no bike is perfect😊

  • @JH09SUMIT
    @JH09SUMIT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a gorgeous location

  • @melmanoi2788
    @melmanoi2788 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Although it does make sense specially with the kind of single cylinder advs that are coming up, but its really sad to see engineering masterpeices like v strom 650 fade away, nothing beats a v-twin 🥲

  • @GypsyOdyssee
    @GypsyOdyssee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved it, very practical and well thought out points! 😊
    Thanks for making my doubts vanish forever ♾️

  • @classicsur4026
    @classicsur4026 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    u cant replace kalashnikov with a pistol...just bcz both have the same rte of fire.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I can use the pistol far more accurately than the AK47, then I'll pick the pistol.

    • @classicsur4026
      @classicsur4026 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigbearbangalore u can't do that sir...with pistol

  • @jay-vo7rx
    @jay-vo7rx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    beautiful back ground, fantastic honest insights, 2 great mates. Killer content

  • @shonith91
    @shonith91 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Money saved is money earned. I had taken a similar decision last year when i let go of my rx100.

  • @suhasbharadwaj3645
    @suhasbharadwaj3645 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Boski, this seems like trend among motorcyclists. Most start with a smaller bike, upgrade all the way to a liter class or more and then slowly come back to 250 - 400 cc and settle.

    • @Terminator-to3lp
      @Terminator-to3lp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly because till that time they learn what they lost😊😊

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😊🙌

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would say what was lost! It's evolution. Appropriate things at appropriate time.

  • @vishalamle8330
    @vishalamle8330 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a matured and well thought points you shared…!!!
    It is always pleasure to watch your videos..!!!!
    Happy riding Sir..!!! 🏍️
    And keep sharing your valuable knowledge…!!!!

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks a ton. Kind of you. Regards.

  • @harikrishnancm8359
    @harikrishnancm8359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Booked Himalayan 452 on last week of December and now waiting for Him...😇

    • @Sagar-rko
      @Sagar-rko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And you will regret about it 😅

    • @harikrishnancm8359
      @harikrishnancm8359 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sagar-rko y ?

    • @Sagar-rko
      @Sagar-rko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harikrishnancm8359 RE motorcycles are not reliable, am an mechanical Engg and I visited RE plant at Chennai. Poor built quality

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Congrats

  • @tankachen
    @tankachen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good and mature choice in my view. I had gone up in cc and bhp up to a 330kg 1400 GTR with 150 or so BHP; then realized I was never using quite a few of these horses, so I changed it for an 230kg Africa Twin 1000 of "only" 95bhp in 2016. Now I am seriously considering the Himalayan 450. I liked the 411, but it was too underpowered. I think the Himalayan 450 offers an excellent fun/usability/budget mix.

  • @maneckkatrak1379
    @maneckkatrak1379 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Full respect to your personal decision, but also it is a pity that the Suzuki is being released...
    Especially when you have the lighter T400x scrambler in your garage.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The H450 & 400X is a good combo in the garage.

  • @abhishekkalkatte7036
    @abhishekkalkatte7036 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s absolutely practical decision! I think when you are young and handle the higher power and weight it’s good to own a higher power bike ! Once you can’t handle it anymore moving to what suits is right! It’s always a personal choice 👍🏻

  • @Bala.the.Baldie
    @Bala.the.Baldie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    What are your thoughts on Honda NX500?

  • @mauulik
    @mauulik 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing videos guys, and what a beautiful setting. I really need your advice for Honda CB350 & RE Hunter 350.
    Boski & Ck produce excellent content for Indian bikes, wishing you all the very best to get to milllion subscribers soon

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks.
      More Commuting = Hunter
      More Touring = CB350

  • @VeereshVishwakarma600gt
    @VeereshVishwakarma600gt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree that, i own TNT600GT, these bikes are heavy and we can't enjoy twisties and we surely feel the weight and yes parking space we need to be extra cautious, to be frank any bikes abobe 500cc multiple cylinders in India is not worth, we can't enjoy at full potential and yes these bikes are expensive to maintain as well. I agree with each and every point, i am also thinking to downgrade to Himalayan or Aprilia rs457.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing. And let's not refer to it as a "downgrade". 😊

  • @RevsAndWheels
    @RevsAndWheels 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Friendship goals ❤😊

  • @birchwoodbiker
    @birchwoodbiker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as we get older we get more sensable🤣👍👍

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You got that right! 😀
      To be precise, as I grow older, I get less stupid.

  • @arijitchief
    @arijitchief 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For someone who's been working on his own bikes for so long, are you really certifying an Enfield bike for "quality"? That's a huge thing, coming from an experienced person like you...helps build our trust in the brand...I thought your choice would have been the Honda NX500 or the new upcoming KTM 390...

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did not give a certificate! 😃
      It's a decision based on reality and practicality and preference of where my motorcycling life is at and how much I wish to invest on a motorcycle. I now have 2 brilliant motorcycles, the H450 and the 400X, for the price of a used V650 or new NX500.
      And if the all new 390ADV turns out to be really really good, I would consider it at that time.

  • @karthikdoraiswamy8921
    @karthikdoraiswamy8921 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your thoughts male sense, while i do have a couple of retro 1200s in the garrage and a 950 adv, I have been having this lingering though about replacing the 950 with the 452 Himalayan purely for all the resons you mentioned.. the retros will stay but for everything else, I will get the himi!!

  • @bibhabmohapatra8548
    @bibhabmohapatra8548 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Currently I have vstrom 250sx
    Duke 250 and hero ignitor 12 years old.
    I was also thinking about big bikes but after owning these two quarter litre bikes I am damn sure than a bike shouldn’t have more than 40bhp. Even I found ktm 390 too maniac to handle. In future I may buy a Harley 440 or the mavrick.
    Even my ignitor is 12 years old still it’s the most enjoyable motorcycle to me.
    Hopefully these sub500cc segment is going to rule the world market

  • @saikatduttachowdhury535
    @saikatduttachowdhury535 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice discussion and almost exactly similar to my thoughts. Almost because I will replace Himalayan with Xpulse 2004v. Reason all same except that for me highway speed of 80 is more than sufficient.

  • @JagannathMoorthy
    @JagannathMoorthy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually it was your initial videos on the Himalayan that acted as a trigger for me to sell my VStrom. It was a motorcycle that I never connected with and the reasons were quite similar. I also realised that a lot of people will be thinking along the same lines and hence the big bikes will become an even tougher sell in the future, so off it went.

  • @gdbenji3278
    @gdbenji3278 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome technical video, helps to decide right bike. 🎉 Pls compare with Honda Nx500 vs Triumph scrambler 400x and Himalyan 450

  • @kumaril05
    @kumaril05 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was just looking at that gorgeous background wallpaper, absolutely beautiful place ♥♥♥♥

  • @ontheroad8149
    @ontheroad8149 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nigeria? Yen maadtidri saar alli, its like a kotigobba moment for me. The tenere must come on this channel!
    Regarding the V, dont sell. I agree on the other practicality aspects but the inner desire for us motorcyclists to own a bigger machine to quell those once in a while wild horses in us is only possible at >60hp. The Himalayan 450 is fast,yes. But my mind wouldnt allow me to pass the preowned Multistrada 950 (or now the V2S) because it was a brute!

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was working for an oilfield service company.
      I still love bigger CC machines, sure. It's a want and not a need. May be one day I may buy one again. For now am happy with the choices I've made. Regards.

  • @gopalakrishnanrajashekar3521
    @gopalakrishnanrajashekar3521 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    White and blue Vstrom 650 guy waiting for a kamet white delivery. I know that the h.452 will do 100% of what I do with the V650 without having ridden one. The India cost of spares is certainly tear inducing. I kind of agree with your analysis, while thinking of the hima as a +1 bike, for now at any rate
    You did leave one question unasked/ open, which bike would a h.452 owner rider want after a while and getting really familiar - from the ones we can (reasonably easily) buy and register here.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Best wishes on the Kamet.
      I don't know what's next. Too early to say. Foe rhe moment I have the 450 and the 400X. It's a balanced garage.

  • @chakria3077
    @chakria3077 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nicely put.
    I've had Enfield for more than a decade. Still have it.
    Even rode previous version of Himalayan. Recently did 3500 kms ride on my Vstorm 650 with Himalayan 452 alongside. Few thoughts:
    - Yes new Himalayan does extremely well on tarmac. But the legacy power lag still there.
    - Royal Enfield is easily serviceable motorcycle in India. But the quality of service is always questionable.
    - Quality of products. You ride any non-RE and comeback to RE, difference of product and ride quality is clear.
    - But can't deny on your pricing part. But for every premium bike, there are quality alternative spares. You don't always need to buy company products. Research matters.
    Yes, enfield spares and service is affordable. Quality comes with a price tag.
    Having said all that, I am a Vstorm fan boy with immense love for RE for its outreach in India.
    I almost bought one new Himalayan. But for a 6'2" 95+ guy, this one seems little lesser.
    Again personal preferences.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing.
      And yes it's a personal preference.

    • @chakria3077
      @chakria3077 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Having said all that, I like the way you kept it simple in layman terms.

  • @jaswanths4326
    @jaswanths4326 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So the real reason is Spares and Maintenance, Not sure if RE is the way to go.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      RE spares availability is one of the best in the business.

  • @upward_onward
    @upward_onward หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was of the impression that V-Strom 650 would be better than Himi...given that compact cars were over taking me on the highway 😂😂😂😂
    Make much sense, after your deliberation.
    Breathe taking view plus calm cool discussion.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks.
      The choice depends on what one seeks from a motorcycle. To be the "fastest" or the "coolest" or "just minding own business".

    • @upward_onward
      @upward_onward หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigbearbangalore currently I'm with Himalayan 411....while doing Dimapur( Nagaland) to Kanyakumari(Kerala) , I often came across instance where Alto 800 would over take.
      Instant thought, was had I with V-strom 650 story would have been different.
      But with 450 doing 110-120 km/hr in Indian highway with no stress in engine. It's a subject in the check box.

  • @motechRevolution
    @motechRevolution 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, I owned the first Himalayan, I also own a superb Vstrom. Both are fantastic for certain situations, from all the videos of Indian roads I have seen, The new Himalayan will be perfect. In Europe we would need 2 bikes, especially for touring here in Spain. The new Himalayan would be short in many departments ,2 up touring with luggage (Here in Europe ) and highway riding. So here's the kicker, the Vstrom 2 up is sufficient, but for long term 2 up touring, again it lacks a few ponies. It's horses for courses. Enjoy your riding

  • @Renu007Kumar
    @Renu007Kumar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I loved the Himalayan being a Yamaha fan who is in no mood to launch the Tenere in India... Holding myself waiting for the Xpulse 400

  • @madhupatel.u.m6119
    @madhupatel.u.m6119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Although, this video is completely from your perspective as an experienced rider. But👌 explanation point by point...eveything mentioned here makes sense for an experienced rider who had all sort of fun in mid and heavy bikes. Thanks for your ellabroate discussion. I get to know about lot of pros and cons in this talk👍 I appreciate and agree with your decision.
    I think you left a "hula" into CK's head. I guess, he might come up with a same decision in few days 😂 Let me see... 👍

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you liked it.
      And yes, CK is dealing with a hula now! 😃

  • @syedsaqlain4250
    @syedsaqlain4250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very well said points !! Big bikes r not for india ..

  • @AakashKale27
    @AakashKale27 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes total sense sir... you dont have roads to actually utilise anything above 500cc in india anyways

  • @TUHIN_SVLOG1970
    @TUHIN_SVLOG1970 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can u pls review NX500? Wish u good luck from Bangladesh.🇧🇩❤️🇧🇩

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will check on this possibility.

  • @adventuresofanartist2265
    @adventuresofanartist2265 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A lot respect to both you guys
    But genuine question how do you guys spend money on the bike, like what factors that it is a good buy or a investment (let it be costly or cheap)?

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks.
      I invest in accessories that I feel that adds comfort and or security for the ride and experience. Some are premium and some are budget. Utility comes first and price next.

  • @GypsyOdyssee
    @GypsyOdyssee 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice T Shirt sir! ❤
    Love that mandala art, where can i get one??

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. That's from the Himalayan Odyssey 2023.

  • @BRDVlogs74
    @BRDVlogs74 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have RE 500.
    Now upgrade with this Himalayan 450 for long and adventure ride.

  • @heinstein26
    @heinstein26 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great choice sir. Switching to a bike which has roughly the same weight, half the power, way less reliable (V strom engines are known to go around 2-3lac kms). Slow Clap to you.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Appreciate your fine sarcasm. 👏

    • @heinstein26
      @heinstein26 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigbearbangalore The only reasonable take would be Savings. Locally available parts (Though VStrom doesn't needs more than basic Oil and filter changes over many years), Better Fuel consumption. That could be the only good reason to switch. Having ridden both, V Strom is infinitely better Touring Machine than the Himalayan. And Himalayan is not a great Off Road Dual Sport machine which RE is trying to portray it is. It's Top Heavy and lacks the Low end Grunt. More like a Slower KLR than a modern DR or DRZ which it should have been. I'm astonished how RE has made such Heavy Single cylinder bike for so called off road use. It's a missed opportunity by RE. This would have been a game changer if they just reversed engineered the DR650 and added FI on top of it.

  • @journeysman
    @journeysman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    super chat guys....loving the banter !! @CK does X440 "still" figure into the narrative keeping in mind the very same logics discussed in this video. would love to know your ruminations on this ☺

  • @junetdebbarma
    @junetdebbarma 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can watch these two old timers all day❤😂😂😂their conversations adventures 🙂🫡

  • @rohitkamble9619
    @rohitkamble9619 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wise decision ... Practically even 200 to 350 cc is sufficient for all enjoyable rides.

  • @agnelvas
    @agnelvas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bosky why r u not trying Honda NX500. Its weight management is much better than Himalayan 450

    • @giridm
      @giridm 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The on road price of nx500 in Bangalore is close to 7.2 lakhs… that becomes a big factor when making a ‘head over heart’ decision.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it's a great machine. And for the price of one NX500, I have the H450 & the 400X.

  • @souptikgarai886
    @souptikgarai886 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Bosky! Very interesting content. I wonder if you've considered NX500 as an alternative to your vstrom! It's expensive than himalayan but definitely a much better package with balance, weight distribution and much smoother...

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it's a great machine. And for that price I bought the H450 and 400X.

  • @satkap
    @satkap 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very thoughtful and learned decision.. i respect it.
    Two questions-
    1- where is this location of shoot?
    2- what do you do for a living? Just curious
    Best regards

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks.
      Mukkodlu.
      Semi-retired

  • @rohandante
    @rohandante 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which Harley Davidson you had 12 years back ?

  • @virendra360
    @virendra360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great conversation

  • @kriskrysler
    @kriskrysler 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People Watching this Video. Boys : This is what we call Old Age. Men : This is what we call it Wisdom. Conclusion : Choose Wisdom anyday whatever age you are.

  • @praveenbalachandran7807
    @praveenbalachandran7807 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey guys,
    What about V Strom SX 250 over Himalayan..
    I know it's not a fine comparison...
    I'm a beginner and in the budget point of view I decided to take Vstrom..😊
    Individual choices❤

  • @gururajshetti
    @gururajshetti 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely, after owning 2 bike bikes feel they are good for occasional breakfast rides and for experiencing pure high speed adrenaline however 300-500cc bikes with decent power,low maintaince cost, lighter,nimble is more suited and practical for Indian roads!Royal Enfield if they fix the few minor niggles in the Himalayan will be a fantastic all round touring bike!!!

  • @harshaokin8064
    @harshaokin8064 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the background looks very Madikeri-esque!

  • @nishantnanda8404
    @nishantnanda8404 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your channel was very instrumental in getting my v strom 650. Its been almost 2 year and i have enjoyed it. Thanks for your honest opinion.
    Bosky sir, did you do someting to the front suspension of v strom ? I put in a heavier fork oil and there has been a significant improvement

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to hear.
      Added an 8 mm spacer.

    • @nishantnanda8404
      @nishantnanda8404 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigbearbangalore oh nice

  • @darksoul4721
    @darksoul4721 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Plz do a mileage test video on vstrom 650 before selling

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've posted 2 ownership reviews on the V650 where I've shared those figures.

  • @MR.MotoHead
    @MR.MotoHead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I still feel that Himalayan 450 is not a bike that can replace V strom 650. Though Himmy is a good bike, but I think it can't be termed as great. A Honda NX 500 would have been a perfect replacement for VStrom. Because only a quality motorcycle can replace another quality motorcycle.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's your view which I accept. And I have shared mine. I have not claimed that the H450 is better than the Vee. I've only said that for me, it makes sense to do so. Thanks.

  • @agnelvas
    @agnelvas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Now the person who was planning to buy the Vstrom from Bosky is also wondering.😂

  • @Latindanceindia
    @Latindanceindia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's my fav place. River edge valley

  • @sharanasudhirlekkad
    @sharanasudhirlekkad 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Need to understand body , reflexs and adapt aptly to it. Enjoy the bike with new roles...❤

  • @aroy8731
    @aroy8731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe honda 500 NX would have been a better transition? That being even lighter to maneuver.

    • @bigbearbangalore
      @bigbearbangalore  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes and the price. I have the H450 & 400X for that money. For now these 2 serve my purpose.

  • @mallelli99
    @mallelli99 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Himalayan 450 for Go anywhere, park anywhere, and forget it doesn’t draw much attention. Peace of mind.
    HD48. For relaxed highway runs
    Scrambler 400x for city errands. A pocket rocket for commute
    What I see Next is HD 440X replacing you HD48

  • @manjunathp7476
    @manjunathp7476 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wonderful. Makes sense.

  • @ravi799
    @ravi799 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Post 40 we need less drama. Ck u should sell both the 650 and the xpluse and use the amount to restructure the Shogun

  • @SanKiranKReddy
    @SanKiranKReddy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Experience speaks 😎👌👌👍👍🙏🙏🙏

  • @pratyushkk_3
    @pratyushkk_3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It seems good decision to me

  • @baahubalii
    @baahubalii 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thinking about a single bike garage, Xpulse 2004V is not bad option considering its low price tag. Any plan of selling Xpulse? 😂. Yes it has limitations on express ways but overall it's not bad

  • @somnath_sarnakar
    @somnath_sarnakar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meaning full

  • @atanubiswas234
    @atanubiswas234 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Make sense... Just with tubeless rims..