ÖBB Railjet 2 - Inaugural Train Innsbruck - Munich in Business Class
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- Train: ÖBB Railjet RJ 286
From: Innsbruck Hauptbahnhof, Austria
To: München Hauptbahnhof, Germany
Route via: Jenbach, Wörgl, Kufstein, Rosenheim, München Ostbahnhof
Border points: Kufstein (Austria/Germany)
Railway lines used: Unterinntalbahn, Brenner Nordzulauf (Brenner Basistunnel), Deutsches Eck, Bahnstrecke München-Rosenheim
Train operator: ÖBB Personenverkehr AG, DB Fernverkehr AG (Deutsche Bahn)
Travel class: Business Class (4-person private compartment)
Scheduled departure time from Innsbruck: 10h40 cet
Scheduled arrival time in Munich: 12h27 cet
Scheduled travel time (Innsbruck-Munich): 1 hour and 47 minutes
Travel time: April 8, 2024
Ticket bought on: oebb.at
Ticket fare: EUR 39 (Sparschiene) + EUR 15 (Business Class supplement)
Trainset: Railjet 2
Manufacturer: Siemens Mobility, Vienna
Platform: Viaggio Next Level (DaNi)
Electric locomotive: ÖBB 1216 017 (E190 017)
Locomotive type: Taurus III (EuroSprinter ES64U4)
00:00 Preview Summary
02:59 ÖBB Railjet 2 in depot
04:48 Innsbruck Hbf and ÖBB Lounge
07:00 Boarding Railjet 2
09:42 Dining Car
12:09 Exploring Business Class
14:55 Border Austria and Germany
16:59 Munich, Germany
Music credits:
Orion by Josh Stewart
musicvine.com/track/josh-stew...
20:16 i liked the short version. But in all honesty I'd watch any length video from you. They are so interesting and professional.
sure; thanks for the feedback
I very much like the shorter version and the longer captions which gives me time to watch the screen and still have time to read the captions 😉👍🏻
oki, good to know
Captions could use a bit of black border for contrast against lighter backgrounds
Always stay at Motel one! Best views, nice review
A Well composed video as always Doc. Some feedback on the new format: I think this format works, but I prefer longer videos. The amount of time the captions stayed on screen in these longer videos was about right in my view. However, I understand if it’s more viable for you in this new setting, to continue it. As long as you’re comfortable with your choices, then that’s all that matters. Kind regards, Anthony.
making videos longer - thats easy for me
@@doc7austin❤
I'm really looking forward to taking this train! I really like your videos! They need to start including lounge cars on these trains!
the bar car is not bad
Fantastic looking train - another quality video beautifully shot and edited. Thank you.
i really like the railjet 2
Your new new format is excellent and thank you for your interesting video. 👍🏻🏴
yes, thank you for your feedback
In 2 Wochen fahre ich mit dem Zug und nun, wo ich ihn schonmal im Video gesehen habe freue ich mich umso mehr darauf. Danke für den Bericht, war wieder grandios!
danke für das feedback
Great video, I love this train
me too
Honestly I am more into a long version with details about the history of the line. This is something I am missing in this short version.
ok, good to know
Agree - as long it's not getting similar rushed/packed as the shorts of SimplyRailway ... )
I like the new format, but I would say the sweetspot for your videos is half-an-hour.
Subtitles with railway sounds is very soothing.
More Asian videos please.
yes, more videos on china and india will follow
having to go up and down steps at every gangway is a real pain, that's the reason for the " lack of distribution" particularly if you board a different carriage to your reserved seat and have luggage - if the trains not full people won't bother.
great video!
In general these trains do look great, however the business class doesn't look good to me, personally I don't like compartments and therefore I would feel more freedom in the regular 1st class
yes; the first class product looks very good; no need to spend EUR 15 on the business class supplement
Interesting video.
As I've said on another travel video, if only we could have this train in Canada, going between Windsor and Quebec City, and the other corridor with the cities that escape my memory now for the moment.
The new Viaggios are totally different rail cars. Different frame and aluminium skin and are thus much much lighter than their older (and cheaper) Viaggios 1 that are made of heavy steel. The new ones also have special coating on windows to allow cellular signals through.
Oh, BTW, if what Siemens did for VIA Rail has done in Canada is any indication, the train horn in the cab car in front of train (when loco in in back) is INSIDE the car so whenever the train sounds the horn, the passengers in that car REALLY hear it. Hopefully, they did it differently for ÖBB. (in canada, for every crossing, trains sounds horn 2 long, 1 short, 1 long, FOR EACH CROSSING and there are hundreds between Monreal and Ottawa, a 2 hour jourey).
i really enjoyed the new rail cars
The cab car of the new railjet doesn't have the licence for being used in push service. So it might take some time until we will know about the horn. Secondly In Austria and other European the horns are rarely used on mainlines
Great train, can see that what counts here is the passenger's comfort, that's the most important thing. Unfortunately, some countries don't know this and will never go in this direction. Great video
yes, i really like the railjet 2
nice video
You made a very good Video.
I really like the Railjet 2 but in 1st class only (I made a Video from the domestic one between Wörgl and Vienna )
I tried the Business Class also, but the small between the other people is not worth for 15 €. Small tables and so on.
Alone in the compartment is fine, but I don't like when there is another people seating you face to face my friends tried, it is "2nd class style"
But I really like the new Railjet 2.
The 1st class is more better than before 😀
yes; the first class cabin aboard the railjet 2 is really niceo
Subscribed!
New format: absolutely o.k., although could also be up to 30 minutes as other comments have written.
Concerning the Railjet: o.k., some details have been improved, as low floor entry, more privacy by the closed backrest of the 2-seat rows, footrests also on 2nd class. However the seat pitch is crsmped in all classes, subjectively narrower in 1st class than before (not yet verified by measurements). 2nd class seat comfort is by no means better than in regional trains.
yes; second class on the railjet 2 looks really similar to a regional train
🥸Nice looking train !!!!
Ashfaq from (INDIA) You explore journey very nice.
thank you for your feedback
I like the long videos but shorter ones are ok too. I watch your videos for railway and location ambience and as long as you don't turn into a clickbait monkey constantly hyping your "content" I will remain happy.
hahaha, a lot of channels are clickbaiting - i know
Another excellent video Doc. I guess you have to comply with the big Google algorithm, for the short attention span society in which we live. Your long videos have a lovely pace - more like being on the train - and you get to show more scenery and train features. If by 'shorter segments' you mean the way you edit each video, longer time on each portion of the video is nice, and has been your attractive style. As others commented, it was difficult to read the subtitles. Please continue the good qualities your have of no talking, no music while en route. Thanks!
total length of videos is not going to be reduced; the length of the video segments will decrease, while at the same time to number of video segments will increase
A very thoughtful and comprehensive comment. Beautifully written.
@@doc7austin Thank you. Keep up the good work.
sure, i will
I don’t know but on my point of view, business class should be small and single compartment or at least have some, this is the highest class and a group of 4 for this is not so right
but apart from that, the compartment looks nice
Thank you for video. I suggest you to use black outline 3px on subtitles, it is really difficult to read white text on bright video. I see shadows under the subtitles, but it’s still not enough. Thank you, have been in Innsbruck on 8 March from Berlin using ICE + rental car, the cost of this train for 2 person from München was not adequate compared to car rental + we have much more freedom for visiting different locations. Nevertheless I love trains despite Deutsche Bahn Verspatungs
rental car - to get to innsbruck?
@@doc7austin yes, the train cost was 50 euro for one person from München to one side, car rental was 33 euro per day in München airport + petrol. The main idea that we traveled on the same road in parallel with railway from Innsbruck to Garmisch-Pantenkirchen, the views on Zugspitze were incredible. So it makes sense
Super❤ The video could be longer about 10 minutes. I like your journey. Calm , quiet . Waiting for a Night Jet 2.0
two nightjet 2 videos are in my pipeline
I really have to say without reget: There are many trains made by Stadler Rail , Talgo or Alstom which are better! And the ÖBB know it but they nevertheless celebrate this train like a Frecciarossa, Giruno, TGV....
We'll see. Here in Denmark we had a similar offset with an order for the Danish state railways, and we're getting 16 push pull trains from Talgo. But they look quite subpar compared to this ngl.
@16:02 4 strangers sitting together would make this experience unbearable ---- ??? I've seen plenty of videos of yours with night trains and up to 4 beds and that's ok??? I'd definitely see it the other way around but it's not me, it's your comment.
well, a full seating cabin is different than a full couchette/sleeper cabin
@@doc7austin I agree and that is why I would only be in a 4 sleeper cabin if the entire cabin was reserved for me alone.
Ausgezeichnetes Video des neuen Railjet 2. Ich habe das erste letztes Jahr erlebt und es war schön. Wird der Railjet Zürich HB mit Innsbruck HB verbinden? Ich liebe diesen OBB-Zug 🇦🇹. Vielen Dank für diesen Eröffnungsfilm. Grüße aus der Normandie. 👍📽️🚅🇦🇹🇩🇪🤩👏😀
also ich glaube nur ausgewählte Railjet 1 Garnituren dürfen derzeit in die Schweiz fahren, insofern glaube ich nicht, dass der Railjet 2 demnächst Zürich ansteuern wird.
If not Rj2, then perhaps Rj1 which will get a refurbishment within the next years to come and will probably get a similar interior as the Rj2.
@@geraldpartan3256 That's how it was communicated by an ÖBB-fleet manager lately . In addition , this traditional international connection along the mighty Arlberg will very likely be priorised too .
Die neuen Railjet sind in erster Linie für die Strecke München Verona gedacht da die alten Intercity Wagen die Zulassung für Italien verlieren. Wenn die Strecken dann vollständig bedient wird wird sich zeigen wo die RJ2 noch eingesetzt werden
Quite susprised (and disapointed) that you did not videop the gangways between cars. You ALWAYS comment when walking betwene cars for some trains, you would be affraiud to bring kids through. The new trend is to have fixed consists with non-standard wider and fully enclosed gangways, so am quite curious if these Railjet 2 have the whole train as a fixed consist, or have sets of 2 or 3 cras permanetly counped, and then standard couplings betwene groups to allow change in train length.
Since those are designed to be reversible (and losing the end of train view forever), do the seats rotate inside cars, or are half the seats already facing one way and the rest of passengers travelling backwards? On TGVs, they are retrfitting first class seats to be reversible so people face forward.
The new railjet has fixed coupling and open gamgways between all of the 9 cars. It is normally not possible to reduce the length of this consist.
I have always enjoyed your videos. Long or short makes no difference. My only criticism is the subtitles. On some scenes they are washed out and hard to read. I would recommend a shadow surround.
i will try to optimize the subtitles in my next video
At 04:30 you show the departures board. Your subtitle mentiones RJ 286, but departure board shows EC 286. In fact that was the only EC train. there are some RJX and others. I assume these are designations for type of service? I assume RJX is international Rail Jet ? How come your train an international and Rail Jet , but has EC train number?
RJX are Railjet Express train which have less stops then regular RJ services thus faster travel time. The new Railjet set are the replacements for the old EC (EuroCity) trainsets on this route thus they still have the same EC number as before
@@sebastianhofmann17 Thnks. I hdn't thought about eurocity. Figured all "Railjet" trains would be used only on railjet services.
I still like having the intro music.
sure, i will try to keep the intro music in most videos
I enjoy having the subtitles on longer as I don't read as fast as I used too, my eyes are like me, getting older :)
yeah, but,
but i am now reading them 3 times as the video is cut multiple times with the same subtitle
oki
I like your new presentation. It was interesting to compare your video with Paul Lucas. You both showed the same meal in the dining car. Was this planned?
hahaha; no, this was a coincidence
@@doc7austin ✌️🤣
Since you asked: subtitles longer in view is not important for me. I pause the video to read them, because I dont want to miss footage. Shorter scenes: not for me. I like them longer.
ok, I keep your feedback on my mind
Based on my experience with trains, this one is quite a fine & classy looking train. Feedback -- Please do something with the fonts as they're not readable in parts of the video (specially against white backgrounds). Thank you.
ok; thank you for the feedback
The 4-person "private" compartments are rather a fail . It's a shame - compared to the RJ1-fauteuils or the classic compartments with walls & curtains . Let't hope ÖBB will not sell more than two seats per compartement for individual travellers . First and second class are quite precious though .
hmmm; i like the business class compartments
@@doc7austin Let's say, if they stay lowly occupied and the open sector is packed with noisy families or similar ... it could be seen as a business upgrade acoustic-wise ;)
@The0070049 yes; thats the provacy advantage of the business class compartment
@@doc7austin fair enough - agreed
@@The0070049 it doesn't just have to be noisy families. How about rude people on their cellphones? Love to avoid that!
Business Class seats don't look as comfortable as the older Railjet.
if you got the cabin for yourself, the railjet 2 cabin is more comfortable than railjet 1 in my eyes
Yes, if you can put your feet on the opposite empty seat. For 3-4 passengers at once it's a joke. Looks as if the length if the business cabin is the same as of the 2nd class. Must measure it at next occasion. cabin.
Gibt es neue Taurus RJ 2 Farbe ??????
ne, ich glaube die farben zwischen railjet 1 und railjet 2 sind ziemlich gleich
Dining car not wheelchair accessible?
No, but not really necessary with at-seat service.
@@to_loww I'm sure a lot of people in wheelchairs would love to dine in the restaurant car like other passengers.
@@samtrak1204 First class passengers usually don't either.
the restaurant car aboard the railjet 2 feels and looks like more than a bar
@@doc7austin I love to socialize in the bar car, but I guess that is history if I am confined to weheelchair.
Did the train reach its maximum speed of 220km/h in the Inntal line?
1) max speed is 230 kph
2) No, it is not possible on this route
I am absolutely not impressed.
The business class is such a downgrade from RJ1.
Apparently there's not even a footrest anymore.
if you are alone (no other pax in the dame cabin), this new business is even better - esp. for privacy
Business class means business , work , not tourist relaxation . However , i didn't like it either but in general this
new Railjet is a great train .
Footrests are useless
@@chr04 Footrests are awesome. Especially if you are short like me.
@@carlosrosas7249 While you can work, business class still is mostly not used for work but for relaxing so you are feeling rested when you have to do business.
I think the new business seats also have smaller tables.
Another think to keep in mind - "business" class on trains actually normally is above first class (and it is here too), so it is rather a premium first class product.
These new trains look like children played with the design.
BIG BIG mistake with the new business class, horrible! The old business class was the best seat in Europe, I rode a lot of time in Business, it was wonderful. This is a huge downgrade, I really don't get why they went with this design. Economy resembles a school bus, I honestly don't get any of this.
why do you think Business Class was a downgrade ?
Economy class on the new RJ2 is among the best ones in Europe.
@@doc7austin With the current business class you have much more spaced-out seats, fully reclinable with leg room, and slightly staggered, so your legs don’t crash against the person in front of you. More importantly, they have some individual seats for the solo travelers that provide great privacy. This new business class has 4 seats crammed in inside a small cabin, and even though the actual seat seems slightly wider, if you are 6 foot tall your legs will touch the person in front. I must say, the First-Class seats seem nicely improved in comparison to the current ones. I have traveled the RJ across central Europe multiple times, and I am 6’4’’, so I know what’s comfortable on a train and what’s not. I will miss the current business class seats.
Meh 😕 I still love the eurofima coaches
but those eurofima coaches are getting old and tired
@@doc7austin yes but I love those coaches
Bussiness class compare to MAV 1+ class looks poor... More like waiting room in a hospital... Typical cold, German style.
.. Austrian style )))
I prefer your sub-title only videos. The only thing I would say is be consistent with terminology especially with proper nouns. If you prefer to call it München rather than Munich then stick with München and don't have both. Having said this, your videos are far superior to those of Simply Railways. He still insists on having a voiceover introduction in his heavily accented Franglais. I have had to stop watching his videos because of this. Fully-sub-titled is the way forward.
Your opinion not mine .
Cheers from 🇵🇹 Portugal
it appears the youtube algorithm prefers videos with audio narration.
@@doc7austin Why is that? If voiceover is to be provided then it should be in the videographer's native language with sub-title selections.
I watched Paul Lucas' video immediately after yours albeit in the reverse direction and onwards to Italy.
Paul is a native English speaker and knows how to narrate professionally so that the viewer can understand him.
I watch a Spanish railway-themed video where the narrator speaks Spanish but I read the sub-titles throughout the video.
I've no objection to non-native English speakers narrating in English as long as they don't follow the example of 'Simply Railways'.
'Railways Explained' is a great example of where a non-native English speaker does an excellent job at narrating in English. It can be done! I wish you success with your choice.
the problem witj any narration/voice-over -> you cannot hear the original sound of the railway ride anymore
@@doc7austin You're so right.
This time doc7 Austin was okey with OBB . Perhaps he already forgot the bad experience on
board of a Nightjet that after all there was more to blame to DB than OBB .
About the Business compartment and the 4 strangers i think that's a very restrictive view .
The compartment can be booked by 4 business man /women that work together , 2 friend couples , a family , the Fab Four , don't you think ?
In the other hand , you have a very good 1st Class . I wish my Country had a train like Railjet.
From 🇵🇹 Portugal.
if the Railjet 2 train would have been cancelled, there are plenty of alternatives to get from innsbruck to munich during the daytime; this is not so much true for a nightjet berlin-brussels