I mistakenly said in the video that there are 16 splits (four backgrounds, four border effects), but that actually fails to account for the fact you get rainbow backgrounds without borders to start, so at least 18 is correct. Does anyone know if you can get gold / inky without border effects?
Don't be discouraged viewers! In less than 3 months from watching this I have over 50 splits including Ink and Gold splits! You too can get there with determination and dedication to shiny things.
That last bit of information is huge! As a beta player I had no idea but I've stopped upgrading some cards at legendary because I got the variant I wanted. Going to infinity split everything now thanks!
How, I had no idea there was this much going on. They put so much care into this game. Wish more card games had this many effects/variants. It’s a cool touch and they’re relatively well priced/free. Great model.
I love and hate this system. Some effects are really cool, like the Kirby Dots and monochromatic effect. Whilst some are really ugly. But there's no way to actually mix and match. These variants often remove the background of the card in favor of a rainbow colored background. Which often makes them look worse in my opinion. Also I think the legendary border has the coolest color and stands out the most. Making me not really want to upgrade to Infinity. I wish they would implement a way for you to customize a card to your liking. You would still need to obtain all the effects in the exact same way you do now. But you can make the card look however you want. Maybe you want it to have the "Common" colored border but still be 3D and animated and all that. Why not let players choose. It would give so much amazing depth to the system and it would actually make me want to upgrade my collection.
I'd assume something like this is coming at some point but the tech stack isn't done yet. Being able to pick border color specifically has been requested a lot.
@Lambi I couldnt agree with you more, the legendary border I think is the best border, the infinite one after it feels less epic and just purply translucent. (which is weird as earlier one is also purple) It would be way better to let players customize whatever border, special effect and background they want. Since they use this modular system anyways, it wouldn't be hard to program at all. I also think the game should default with only the cards you have unlocked in the collection screen, with the option to click on a card and to swap between cosmetics taking the last chosen cosmetic as default for when you add that card to a deck. Currently you have 5 different Green Goblins, 11 different Professor X's all clogging up your screen while you're looking for only a single card. In fact, I feel so strongly about this, I am going to make a suggestion to the devs to implement these changes for a future patch. EDIT: I posted something to this affect to 2nd dinner, hopefully they will implement.
Thanks, this really explained a lot. I had no idea you couldn't get duplicates (of background, border combos), or that this rule then carried over to variants too. I had a lot of boosters saved up on some cards I play a lot waiting for a cool variant, so knowing I can upgrade them now and not waste it is nice. :D
Thank you for explaining this. Subbed. You haz learned me a knowledge. I wish we had the ability to choose borders. There are some cards as I upgrade where I think that particular artwork pairs nicely with the solid green, blue or purple borders. Most look terrible with the purple border and I wish I they could go back to the blue or green one that made them pop more.
Sooooo, I can eventually have like 16 versions of the same card...there is no duplicates of the same version tho right cuz this would be disappointing. I finally split my 1st rainbow and saw it was only just the purple swirl like, what is the difference and had to look it up cuz originally I wanted to find out for myself but after that I just had to find out lol Very helpful video tho thank you sir
I’m new 2 this game & a lil confused . My question is that will I still be able 2 get more copies of the character points or whatever they’re called even if I use 2 splits ?
Huh, I never even heard of the splits and different variants of 'em. But then again, Snap has almost no community in a country that I live in so it's not surprising. Thanks for the coverage, Jeff! Your work is greatly apprecitated!
I actually like the original backgrounds more, it make each card stand more out. After a while they'll just all have the same background. Or just a variation of a couple backgrounds.
For example White Tiger got a really good looking background with a building behind her and a green tiger spirit at night, but after it's just some rainbow colors and de building completely disappears.
Gotta say you're my favorite marvel snap content creator on youtube. This video made me sub. I agree the ink one looks best, and I really want it. But those border effects seem really useless/unimpressive? Like does it stand out at all or be honest are we just looking at the art. Makes me not want to split a card twice.
So attempting to do some quick maths... There are currently 1030 different card arts to upgrade including originals and all variants. Each card can be upgraded effectively 19 times (1 original plus 18 splits). So 19x1030 is 19570 full upgrades. Upgrading a card to infinity is 31 collection levels (1+2+4+6+8+10). Unless there are collection points awarded for a split? So a collection score could currently at max be 606,670.... anyone close?
I'll update because it was such great content with amazing content. The information was clear and managed to clear all my doubts BUT... I will never reach this far as a casual player probably... I can at least dream about it xD
Question about the boosters: is there pure randomness to which card is awarded boosters? Does using certain variants influence which cards get boosters? Are foiled cards less likely to receive boosters? Probably confirmation bias but I feel like when I'm playing a deck with a single card with a foil variant that card is far less likely to get boosters than other non-foil cards in the deck.
The fact that they took away the mechanic that made it so mutagens always went to the common made getting the effect that you want on a specific card a monumental task, very bad patch for collectors. Should have just left that system in play after every card has 20.
They've actually added more color combinations for the border effects, so there are roughly 100 splits per card now. When you hit that limit you have to stop splitting.
Infinity Splits are a really elegant way of having long-term collection progression without giving players with upgraded collections a gameplay advantage over other players. If I have a full deck of cards with matching "Kirby" dots, I can still lose to a much better player using cards with the ugly triangle background.
I reaally like the idea of splitting cards/variants I am not too interested in as preparation for the variant I AM interested in LOL … gonna split a bunch of cards so my favourite art one can have the chance to get some inkify background!!!!!
Too each their own, but luckily I do not care for the inkified cards at all, so I will not mind not rolling them ever 😂 I'd honestly almost rather run the regular version on most cards than inkified even Really enjoy the rest of the upgrades tho!!!
Thanks for the informantions . always love to watch your videos i have a question : if you have all the possible splits for a card . what happend when you level the last card to infinity? you can't split it anymore ? or you get a variant art of the card?
I am at collection level 3335 and still missing 3 cards (Galactus), (Thanos) and (Nick Fury... which may still not be available in the pool as it was part of a beta season). I am not sure but I feel like I am well below the average player. I believed a new card was expected to pop up after a set number of reserves. My last new card wass 10 reserves ago (level 3226)
None of the three cards you listed are currently in pool 3. Nick Fury will be added to pool 3 when this season ends. The other two aren't released yet at all and can only be see via random generation.
Given the first split has no border effect, does that mean each card can be split 17 times (16 combinations + 1 just background no border) or even more if it is possible to get the other just background no border/ vice versa if those exist?
Interestingly if Jeff is 100% accurate there are two impications. As you say, the very first split of a never split character will not have a border and (probably) is a 17th (1st+16) Split. Secondly, the rarest card you will probably ever potentially have is actually a VARIANTs first-character split which will be one of the rainbows WITHOUT a border effect - which youll never be able to get if you split the original card. Unless of course each split CAN be obtained without border effects... which means there's 20 splits.
@@HooglandiaSnap Yeah that part i thought so. So you can split every variant of a card 16 times each to have a "full" collection of a card. Thx for the answer! ;)
So is it possible to get the same split multiple times for the same card, or if you get them to infinity enough times are you going to get every version eventually?
@@HooglandiaSnap aaah okay, I guess I just haven’t seen any yet. Crossing my fingers for Daredevil! Thank you, I appreciate you making this video and taking the time to answer my question! 😊
@@HooglandiaSnap so say you have iron mans base card and a variant are you saying splitting the base card then splitting the variant gives me a better chance at getting a rare variant
I wonder if they'll let you split down after you've got the 4x4 combinations and get the other two borderless backrounds or even backgroundless borders? that would be pretty cool as a final way to round out the card collection. Although I think it would be better at the end rather than as a random chance while you're still pining for rare splits.
with all the variants and splits. the collection is already arguably infinite. but it would still be nice to be able to pick your fave cards and just go to town on them
One thing that’s adjacent to this topic that I still don’t understand: If I’ve upgraded all cards to green - why is the most efficient way to level cards to split the same card over and over instead of just upgrading cards in the deck your playing as soon as they are available. Unless I’m missing something every upgrade past the first is the same credit/booster/level gained ratio. You can’t target which booster you get outside of jamming games w the same cards over and over. I’ve seen so many people say split the same card over and over…why not just upgrade what you can when you can?
500 credits for ten collection levels vs 250 credits for ten collection levels. Plus improving twenty cards for the price of one. There are definite benefits to running a deck full of commons, not least forcing you to improvise a playstyle rather than slavishly follow the latest deck trend. Swapping out a card each game is good solid training.
The only difference is after a split you get to start at common again, and get another half-price level (or I think of it as a 25 credit "bonus" every time you split a card). Like Jeff mentioned it's relatively minimal (so 4900 credits spent only on splitting cards will net you the same number of levels as 5000 credits spread across your collection sans splits). The upgrade every common probably is a little more worthwhile, since you can slide a card into a reasonable, well suited deck for a game or three and usually get the needed boosters, and its effectively 25 free credits (or half a free level) but even that the difference between not paying attention at all and strictly optimal amounts to just dozens of collection levels over the course of obtaining a full collection ~3000 levels give or take).
You need like 150000k credits to get every card. A 250 credit saving in the grand scheme of it all isn't a lot. If it makes you happy to min max that fraction of a precent, go nuts, but it also isn't nearly enough progress to be worth stressing over if you don't enjoy the process.
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I mistakenly said in the video that there are 16 splits (four backgrounds, four border effects), but that actually fails to account for the fact you get rainbow backgrounds without borders to start, so at least 18 is correct.
Does anyone know if you can get gold / inky without border effects?
I don’t think so. I’ve split 12 cards and they all have border effects
@@HooglandiaSnap i.redd.it/omtjvhand0791.jpg On reddit from 4 months ago. That's the only example I could find of a solo gold background
Me watching with barely any cards upgraded more than 4 times: 👀👀👀
Four times? Try one time 😂
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Don't be discouraged viewers! In less than 3 months from watching this I have over 50 splits including Ink and Gold splits! You too can get there with determination and dedication to shiny things.
That last bit of information is huge! As a beta player I had no idea but I've stopped upgrading some cards at legendary because I got the variant I wanted. Going to infinity split everything now thanks!
Its fun to learn about something I might never attain. Thanks for the videos Jeff. Glad someone is doing quality content on this game.
I actually don't even have any inky or Kirby dot splits yet just because I play so many different cards. Some day...
its not that hard to attain if you play enough
@@HooglandiaSnap No Inky or Kirby? How can you possibly stay competitive in this game.
It’s not as hard as you think if you just do your daily’s
phenomenal ui and editing layout, looks super professional and crisp! great video
I imagine people in meetings discussing these points very seriously.
Great information. Perhaps a clip of actually splitting a card could've added a little something, but overall, very informative and helpful.
Finally someone goes over splits! This was great Jeff!
How, I had no idea there was this much going on. They put so much care into this game. Wish more card games had this many effects/variants. It’s a cool touch and they’re relatively well priced/free. Great model.
I love and hate this system. Some effects are really cool, like the Kirby Dots and monochromatic effect. Whilst some are really ugly. But there's no way to actually mix and match. These variants often remove the background of the card in favor of a rainbow colored background. Which often makes them look worse in my opinion. Also I think the legendary border has the coolest color and stands out the most. Making me not really want to upgrade to Infinity.
I wish they would implement a way for you to customize a card to your liking. You would still need to obtain all the effects in the exact same way you do now. But you can make the card look however you want. Maybe you want it to have the "Common" colored border but still be 3D and animated and all that. Why not let players choose. It would give so much amazing depth to the system and it would actually make me want to upgrade my collection.
I'd assume something like this is coming at some point but the tech stack isn't done yet. Being able to pick border color specifically has been requested a lot.
@Lambi I couldnt agree with you more, the legendary border I think is the best border, the infinite one after it feels less epic and just purply translucent. (which is weird as earlier one is also purple)
It would be way better to let players customize whatever border, special effect and background they want. Since they use this modular system anyways, it wouldn't be hard to program at all.
I also think the game should default with only the cards you have unlocked in the collection screen, with the option to click on a card and to swap between cosmetics taking the last chosen cosmetic as default for when you add that card to a deck. Currently you have 5 different Green Goblins, 11 different Professor X's all clogging up your screen while you're looking for only a single card.
In fact, I feel so strongly about this, I am going to make a suggestion to the devs to implement these changes for a future patch.
EDIT: I posted something to this affect to 2nd dinner, hopefully they will implement.
time to spend the next 5 years getting a full deck to the inkify split
Super informative!
This is the best breakdown of splits I’ve seen.
Cheers Jeff 👍
Love all the snap vids man learning lots!!
Fully inkified Mister Negative deck is my new life goal
Really helpful! And most importantly very clear and easy to understand. Im really a fan of this channel now!
What happen after you split a card 16 times? Can you get duplicate variant of the same card or they don't just let you split more?
Thanks, this really explained a lot. I had no idea you couldn't get duplicates (of background, border combos), or that this rule then carried over to variants too. I had a lot of boosters saved up on some cards I play a lot waiting for a cool variant, so knowing I can upgrade them now and not waste it is nice. :D
Thank you for explaining this. Subbed. You haz learned me a knowledge. I wish we had the ability to choose borders. There are some cards as I upgrade where I think that particular artwork pairs nicely with the solid green, blue or purple borders. Most look terrible with the purple border and I wish I they could go back to the blue or green one that made them pop more.
That's the best and the clearest video about Infinity and splits I've seen! Great job and thanks!
Sooooo, I can eventually have like 16 versions of the same card...there is no duplicates of the same version tho right cuz this would be disappointing. I finally split my 1st rainbow and saw it was only just the purple swirl like, what is the difference and had to look it up cuz originally I wanted to find out for myself but after that I just had to find out lol
Very helpful video tho thank you sir
I’m new 2 this game & a lil confused . My question is that will I still be able 2 get more copies of the character points or whatever they’re called even if I use 2 splits ?
Huh, I never even heard of the splits and different variants of 'em. But then again, Snap has almost no community in a country that I live in so it's not surprising. Thanks for the coverage, Jeff! Your work is greatly apprecitated!
The one thing people don’t really talk about when looking this up is the color options for the effects, how many are there and what are they
Wow I haven't seen the grayscale splits. I need all of them. As always great content Jeff!
Looking back at this I'm really glad that they updated the look of infinity
Thumbs up for all who know Jeff from Hex ! Lovely times !
i have black particles split I don't know if its a bug or rare but you didn't mention it
my split has black cosmic swirls after splitting in the 2nd time but I cant ifind any information on this
I actually like the original backgrounds more, it make each card stand more out. After a while they'll just all have the same background. Or just a variation of a couple backgrounds.
For example White Tiger got a really good looking background with a building behind her and a green tiger spirit at night, but after it's just some rainbow colors and de building completely disappears.
2 cards on Split 3 - J.Jones and S.Witch
Happy Jeff is my favorite kind of Jeff!
Did this happen to you my first infinity split was hexagonal background rainbow. After the update it changed to regular rainbow.
It is still a bit different, they updated how that one looks last patch.
Gotta say you're my favorite marvel snap content creator on youtube. This video made me sub.
I agree the ink one looks best, and I really want it. But those border effects seem really useless/unimpressive? Like does it stand out at all or be honest are we just looking at the art. Makes me not want to split a card twice.
I think the border effects are mostly filler for thr better background effects to make it take longer to get the better ones.
So attempting to do some quick maths...
There are currently 1030 different card arts to upgrade including originals and all variants.
Each card can be upgraded effectively 19 times (1 original plus 18 splits). So 19x1030 is 19570 full upgrades.
Upgrading a card to infinity is 31 collection levels (1+2+4+6+8+10). Unless there are collection points awarded for a split?
So a collection score could currently at max be 606,670.... anyone close?
It's Kirby Krackle
Can we sell the cards?
I'll update because it was such great content with amazing content. The information was clear and managed to clear all my doubts BUT... I will never reach this far as a casual player probably... I can at least dream about it xD
Hm yes triangles
Question about the boosters: is there pure randomness to which card is awarded boosters? Does using certain variants influence which cards get boosters? Are foiled cards less likely to receive boosters? Probably confirmation bias but I feel like when I'm playing a deck with a single card with a foil variant that card is far less likely to get boosters than other non-foil cards in the deck.
The fact that they took away the mechanic that made it so mutagens always went to the common made getting the effect that you want on a specific card a monumental task, very bad patch for collectors. Should have just left that system in play after every card has 20.
can you continue splitting the same card more than 16 times? or is their a limit?
They've actually added more color combinations for the border effects, so there are roughly 100 splits per card now. When you hit that limit you have to stop splitting.
Infinity Splits are a really elegant way of having long-term collection progression without giving players with upgraded collections a gameplay advantage over other players.
If I have a full deck of cards with matching "Kirby" dots, I can still lose to a much better player using cards with the ugly triangle background.
Is it an either or thing for each type of infinity split? For ex, either gold or inkify? Or we can upgrade to get the maximum splits for 1 card?
I reaally like the idea of splitting cards/variants I am not too interested in as preparation for the variant I AM interested in LOL … gonna split a bunch of cards so my favourite art one can have the chance to get some inkify background!!!!!
Too each their own, but luckily I do not care for the inkified cards at all, so I will not mind not rolling them ever 😂 I'd honestly almost rather run the regular version on most cards than inkified even
Really enjoy the rest of the upgrades tho!!!
I just have 2 card split.. Nightcrawler and medusa 😅
Had no idea it was this deep! I've only split to the rainbow background at the moment! Good to know 🙂
I want to ask if these split will go infinitely or there is some limit that how many time we can split
There are 4 backgrounds and dozens of border effects. So you can split a few times.
I'm pretty sure there has to be more than 16 splits because I have seen a card with a particle effect on top of a normal background.
Not gonna lie still kinda confused. I will just spit and upgrade my commons . lol
I barely did a split last night and went into pool 2 and since I’m a completionist I’m gonna be at this game for a long while
Legend
Great video! Been watching a bunch of your videos since finding you on twitch after the global launch
Why should I upgrade my cards? It doesn’t make card more powerful. A common hulk could beat legadary nova any day.
Upgrading cards is how you progress your collection level to get new cards
@@HooglandiaSnap but does it make the card stronger .
Came from stream to drop a like and comment, great content as always Jeff!
gracias
"In the case of my Daredevil here I was given sadness"
Thank you for the explanation ! Appreciate it
Any reason to wait to split a card?
Not really.
Thanks for the informantions . always love to watch your videos
i have a question : if you have all the possible splits for a card . what happend when you level the last card to infinity? you can't split it anymore ? or you get a variant art of the card?
Definitely don't get a variant. Honestly not sure.
Great video!!! I really needed it
Ok so if I split a card 16 times is it guaranteed to get all the variations? Or is there chances to get duplicates splits
You cannot get the same split twice on the same version of a card. You could get the same split on a base art and a variant though for example.
Great explanation.
great explanation!
I am at collection level 3335 and still missing 3 cards (Galactus), (Thanos) and (Nick Fury... which may still not be available in the pool as it was part of a beta season). I am not sure but I feel like I am well below the average player. I believed a new card was expected to pop up after a set number of reserves. My last new card wass 10 reserves ago (level 3226)
None of the three cards you listed are currently in pool 3. Nick Fury will be added to pool 3 when this season ends. The other two aren't released yet at all and can only be see via random generation.
@@HooglandiaSnap oh thanks you saved me from going on forever :-)... I will wait to get Nick Fury then
Given the first split has no border effect, does that mean each card can be split 17 times (16 combinations + 1 just background no border) or even more if it is possible to get the other just background no border/ vice versa if those exist?
Yeah I suppose it is more than 16 then. I'm actually not sure if you can get gold / ink without border effects.
Interestingly if Jeff is 100% accurate there are two impications. As you say, the very first split of a never split character will not have a border and (probably) is a 17th (1st+16) Split. Secondly, the rarest card you will probably ever potentially have is actually a VARIANTs first-character split which will be one of the rainbows WITHOUT a border effect - which youll never be able to get if you split the original card.
Unless of course each split CAN be obtained without border effects... which means there's 20 splits.
thank you (=
Great video
Do i understand it right that splits cant repeat? So if i split a card 16 times im garanteed to have all 16 combos for that particular variant?
Correct. Except for variants of cards. You can get the same split on each variant.
@@HooglandiaSnap Yeah that part i thought so. So you can split every variant of a card 16 times each to have a "full" collection of a card. Thx for the answer! ;)
Is there a limit to how many times u can split a card?
There are at least 16 splits possible currently as mentioned in the video.
So is it possible to get the same split multiple times for the same card, or if you get them to infinity enough times are you going to get every version eventually?
You cannot get the same split twice on the same version of a card. You could get the same split on a base art and a variant though for example.
@@HooglandiaSnap Ah ok, thank you
Is there any way to get the profile pic for a certain card? Or is it random/season pass reward related?
They are randomly in caches on the collection track later on.
@@HooglandiaSnap aaah okay, I guess I just haven’t seen any yet. Crossing my fingers for Daredevil! Thank you, I appreciate you making this video and taking the time to answer my question! 😊
So to obtain the gold back (my favorite, have 2) you need to split at least 6 times? Or it’s just more likely after the 5th?
My one gold split I currently have I got on a third split, but it is unlikely. More rare ones are more likely the more you split something.
@@HooglandiaSnap thank you for the super quick and helpful response!
@@HooglandiaSnap so say you have iron mans base card and a variant are you saying splitting the base card then splitting the variant gives me a better chance at getting a rare variant
@@reese308 correct. Your chance for which split you get considers all your splits across all variants / base art for a given card.
I Saw a 5th border. It was Dark black Moons with a crimson glow curling from the back to the front. It was on an Ebony Maw.
That's too much. There's a whole world out there to see and experience. Don't spend your life in a card game.
I wonder if they'll let you split down after you've got the 4x4 combinations and get the other two borderless backrounds or even backgroundless borders? that would be pretty cool as a final way to round out the card collection. Although I think it would be better at the end rather than as a random chance while you're still pining for rare splits.
with all the variants and splits. the collection is already arguably infinite. but it would still be nice to be able to pick your fave cards and just go to town on them
One thing that’s adjacent to this topic that I still don’t understand:
If I’ve upgraded all cards to green - why is the most efficient way to level cards to split the same card over and over instead of just upgrading cards in the deck your playing as soon as they are available. Unless I’m missing something every upgrade past the first is the same credit/booster/level gained ratio. You can’t target which booster you get outside of jamming games w the same cards over and over. I’ve seen so many people say split the same card over and over…why not just upgrade what you can when you can?
They are just min maxing too much. Upgrade what you can, the gains are minimal trying to hit that first level on everything.
500 credits for ten collection levels vs 250 credits for ten collection levels. Plus improving twenty cards for the price of one. There are definite benefits to running a deck full of commons, not least forcing you to improvise a playstyle rather than slavishly follow the latest deck trend. Swapping out a card each game is good solid training.
The only difference is after a split you get to start at common again, and get another half-price level (or I think of it as a 25 credit "bonus" every time you split a card). Like Jeff mentioned it's relatively minimal (so 4900 credits spent only on splitting cards will net you the same number of levels as 5000 credits spread across your collection sans splits). The upgrade every common probably is a little more worthwhile, since you can slide a card into a reasonable, well suited deck for a game or three and usually get the needed boosters, and its effectively 25 free credits (or half a free level) but even that the difference between not paying attention at all and strictly optimal amounts to just dozens of collection levels over the course of obtaining a full collection ~3000 levels give or take).
You need like 150000k credits to get every card. A 250 credit saving in the grand scheme of it all isn't a lot.
If it makes you happy to min max that fraction of a precent, go nuts, but it also isn't nearly enough progress to be worth stressing over if you don't enjoy the process.
thanks 4 the info 🫡