What's funny is that this was my first exposure to Undertale. I literally had no other context than "Yahtzee put it at #1 for his Top 5 Games of 2015.”
@@thomasallen9974 In fairness, that's a pretty accurate summation. Of course, if you're going into it with the pre-expectation that it's the second coming of Portal, you'll be sorely disappointed - because no game could ever possibly live up to the game you build in your head when someone starts pumping you up with hype for it
Tbf not knowing any context is the best way to experience Undertale. I own it but don't intend of playing it because the magic is lost as I know too much to fully enjoy it.
I laughed, got true pacifist, cried, looked on internet for way to help asriel, failed, looked up One by One on Archiveofourown, and made my peace with the series. You're welcome.
Somehow ... for every Undertale fan mentioning the game somewhere out of context I see about 2489 comments telling me how obnoxious the fanbase apparently is. So yeah, Undertale fanbase haters are worse than the Undertale fanbase.
***** I kinda feel the same every time someone mentions Tumblr as some kind of boogeyman dragging everything down too. I use it and I just find nice art and friendly people; imagine that, its a social platform you tailor to your interests where you can block or follow whoever you want. How the heck are they finding all these supposedly terrible fans unless they're just digging for it?
Totalbiscuit, Jim Sterling, AND Yahtzee, my 3 favorite critics, gave my new favorite game their GOTY award. Man, my confirmation bias is kicking into overdrive right now.
+Alex Valiente I love how at the beginning of the video he was already calming down the Undertale Fandom as this is a show about negative comments against certain videogames. XD
For those who are on the fence about playing Undertale, mainly because of the fanbase unfortunately turning into FNAF's kind of fanbase, don't let these types of things deter you from trying something interesting, as Undertale is this popular because of the charm it has, and several of the things Yahtzee mentioned above. Go ahead and try it out, and if someone judges you for playing it merely because of the fanbase, then shame on them.
+1odie2 Really I find judging a game based on those type of fans to be unfair. In reality these annoying fans are just a vocal minority, but they have the loudest voice and since you hardly hear from the people who are separate from this vocal minority, people tend to assume that all of the fan base consists of this vocal minority. This seems to be the case with EVERY fandom, be they game or movie or TV etc. etc.
Here's a quick word of advice: Play the game without convening your experience with ANYONE who has already played it. Trust me, people who have beaten Undertale are all too happy to ruin it with tips and spoilers, and it's best played as blind as possible. Even Yahtzee refused to do a full review because he thinks saying anything about the game's content will be an unnecessary spoiler. Keep playing, and ignore anyone who's already played it until the game has nothing more to offer you.
+Zapsie An addendum to that is as well as going into it blind in a content/spoiler sense, you should also try to lose any preconceptions you get from people who either overly hate it or love it and label it "pretentious hipster indie trash" or "Dah best game evar!!". (Not saying the game's absolutely perfect, but a lot of people seem to throw a lot of hate at it for personal/preferential reasons and what it's associated with rather than take it on it's own merit.)
+DastardlyGaming Technically speaking, it's not based on Earthbound. However, Earthbound is a very big inspiration for it, and if you like Earthbound, there is a very big chance you'll like Undertale. Personally, Mother 3 was the best RPG of all time (in my personal opinion) before Undertale came along and wrecked it (in my personal opinion, wanna get that out there as much as possible so insane people don't take this the wrong way and I end up with unnecessary hate mail again).
Unnamed Visitor You missed the whole Undertale experience if you don't know what we mean. Do yourself a gigantic favor and play it. You won't regret it.
So Undertale haters summed up as "The fanbase sucks" Alright, well what about the game? "It's overrated trash" Okay, that's fine, but what did you think of the game? "Oh I haven't actually played it"
***** and it's things like that that turned me off the game. People telling me how to play. I'll play how I want. If I dislike the end I got I replay it to see the other endings. But people specifically telling me what to do is irritating as hell
Just want to let you (yes YOU, guy scrolling through the comments) know. The whole comment section is basically one big discussion about loving or hating Undertale...
+Vincenzo Paollo Grieco He's criticized popular games before. He just didn't find anything bad with the game. Honestly, I can't think of anything either, other than "graphics" but that would be a massively stupid thing to point out for a game like that one. It's got atmosphere, varied gameplay, humour, actual emotion and a reasonable amount of character development. It's got interesting characters and different KINDS of humour (stupid humour, puns, silly characters, etc) It does a whole lot right and very little notably wrong... so it's hard for yahtzee to make one of his usual reviews.
KuroroSama42 For me it does not have a good replay value, and i think that since that something you only see if you obessive compusive play the game, so i think he did not pay atention to that if he did he say something to the lines of "i would not want to replay the game just for the sake of the characters saying "heve you see this before?" or for Sans make me go back three times so that he give me a key to a room where the fan base can jizz in the pants for theorys about him", and how annoying it is to begin the genocide run, i know for both the things i said a "the game was not desing for replay value or for the genocide run" can be used as a reason, but still is for these resons i give Undertale a 8,5 out 10
We, The Impartial, are the real victims, We get abused by the haters for defending its good qualities, And then we get abused by the fanbase for being even the littlest bit critical. It's Bullshit.
Danox94 Maybe the fact that people have gotten legitimate death threats because they killed a character in a let's play? Maybe because the fan base WON'T let you play the way you want to? Maybe because they spoil everything in the comments?
my one gripe with undertale is the same as Jared's: that it was spoiled for me by the people who already played it. I wish i could have gone in blind, i probably would have loved it more
I'm lucky in that I had no friends to spoil it for me, and I only heard of the game when it became hugely popular, and as a result I recoiled from it, because I react negatively to things that are overly hyped. So by the time I finally _did_ look into it, it was about a year later, and nobody was talking about it enough anymore to risk spoilers, so I got a totally blind play of it, and it was glorious.
Me: Goes up to friend who has played undertale "I am thinking of playing undertale soon" Friend: "Oh make sure not to [Possible spoiler] otherwise [Possible spoiler] won't happen and if you [possible spoiler] make sure to reset before [possible spoiler] otherwise your game is going to [possible spoiler] forever."
Whenever I miss working at GameStop, I always have Yatzhee to refreshingly slap me in the face with a large TH-cam-video-shaped trout with the expressed purpose of reminding me that I am a dumb twat for thinking that way.
+General Tullius My experience with GameStop was as follows: - Hype loses its novelty. The same games are released over and over and the same people you see come into your store week in and week out keep buying in. The marketing is relentless and you only see it for what it is once you've been forcibly exposed to it repetitively; psychotically-manipulative. The same thing over and over again in every title, even if its not. - The droll repetition of the popular titles makes the relatively few unique ones vanish in a cloud of guilt-by-association. You stop singling out the better ones in your overall view because in the end it's all the same nonsense. They want you to want to keep up with it all, even though doing so is financially impossible. - I worked five midnight openings for Madden, six midnight openings for Halo, five Christmases and five black Fridays in a busy shopping mall store where the whole mall could be dead and we would still be busier than a goddamned theme park. I noticed two things: 1) Patterns in people's gaming routines, and 2) buying habits that creepily and sadly match the intended effect of mass-marketing. Example: it takes people an average of two weeks to beat their games - one week to come and buy new games, one week where we're dead on a Saturday wondering what the hell is going on, and the next week we get slammed with trade-ins. When Madden time rolls around, people trade in more and more valuable titles for what is essentially "new players, shinier helmets and also one gameplay tweak". You see these games people trade in, some of which are really good, for shit money in return and wonder what the sudden sports game connosiuer will have left after he trades in Madden, WHICH THEY ALMOST ALWAYS DO, USUALLY WITHIN A MONTH OR TWO. So they're either bored quickly by it or my customers were very much the "played it, done with it" variety. Also, sports games are year based so, like cars, they go down in value faster. Players looking to save some money are falling for the corporate trade-in value structure without realizing they're spending money and sacrificing good games on what is essentiually a rental. - A kid punched his grandma in the face because he was being a spoiled brat. Banned from the store - A nine year old kid tried to buy GTA: Vice City. I carded him for his driver's license, much to his protest. Threatens to get his dad. I gleefully oblige. He leaves. Returns with [SPECTACULARLY INEBRIATED] dad. After he is finished screaming incoherently at my face and asking what my [bad word] problem is, I read the ESRB label to the dad. Kid gets dragged out of the store by his ear. My boss is now in a good mood. We finally get to go home, which is good, because at this point it feels like it's been 9:25 for like five hours already. - Lady asked me if we took passport photos. I think she was Ukranian. I sent her to Kay Jewelers. - When one annoying ad campaign for an annoyingly popular shitty franchise vanishes, a similar one from a similarly shitty but puzzlingly popular franchise emerges in its place. Usually, it appears between the time you just got finished peddling the previous game in the franchise and the time some other franchise occupies the signage and GameStop TV. You come into work having completely forgotten about [some bullshit] and suddenly its all "THE RETURN OF THIS BULLSHIT IV" and you're all "Jesus fucking christ not This Bullshit again". From the ground floor of the one tech industry humanity is perpetually going bonkers over more than all the others, video game marketing is like a goddamned horror movie - Store signs and poster ads for game franchises are like those monsters in horror movies that not only just don't die, but keep coming back. Just when you almost forgot about them and thought they were long gone, BAM; the sign for the next one appears, like if Groundhog Day and Texas Chainsaw Massacre were the same goddamned movie. They're back in an even shittier sequel that will haunt your waking life and also your recurring nightmares forever, again, a fourth time, not counting expansion packs, which aren't canon anymore so they're gonna do new expansion backs, probably. AND EVERYONE WILL ASK ABOUT IT, AND YOU CAN'T TELL THEM IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY, BECAUSE THEN you're THE CRAZY ONE. - CHRONOS - The Stingy Skynet. Lots of retailers use it, it's an automated system that lives in the GameStop network. It grades employee sales performance and doles out hours accordingly. Stores that sell the least Game Informer subs (or whatever bullshit they're pushing on people these days) get less hours in their district. Employees who are not the top tier performers get MAYBE three hours a week. Worth noting is that an average week will consist of Chronos distributing roughly 90 hours to a busy store like ours that must divide them amongst four full timers and six part timers. At some point, especially if you can't be bothered to shill magazine subscriptions to annoyed customers who are just there for their games, you are very much working at GameStop because you like it (read: are crazy), not because it makes you any real money.
The only games my mother had played before she played Undertale was Diablo 1-3 and then she played Undertale. She hasn't beaten the game yet (Only Neutral so far) but she'll get there!
i can't get into undertale no matter how much I try, I liked some of the characters but can't see what the hype is about. Might put a day aside and try go through the whole thing.
He discussed the game a little bit in a column he made, and he doesn't think Undertale's flawless. He complained that the spritework was shoddy and inconsistent with what era of graphical style it was supposed to evoke, so I guess that's a worthwhile complaint.
Undertale is so highly recommended & rated, even by Yahtzee here, I might as well give it a try. It's about $10, right? Not much I can lose even if I don't end up enjoying it, aside from a few gumballs I could had bought. Of course, I'll keep my expectations tempered, but I will raise my expectations a little more higher than usual. Oh, right. Gotta put up this safety net first; Fans of Undertale - please don't recommend a route for me to take. Haters of Undertale - I don't care about the fanbase, I just want to try the game, OK?
+Jinsei Cast If you buy it on Steam, you can get a refund if as long as you have less than two hours of playtime. A risk-free trial, basically. Don't expect to love or hate it for maximum effect.
+dave nic I don't know...I actually enjoyed the experience after the non-buggy version was released. I think the batman-feel was much more enhanced with the vehicle since it's a signature. It also incorporated stealth mechanics into it. The only point I agree about Yahtzee on is the story...but I really don't play Batman games for the story and I'm not sure why he would either. After playing all the current ones, I went back to Asylum to see if it has withstood the test of time. Suffice it to say, I was not impressed and am glad it evolved into a game like City.
***** I thought the batmobile combat mode was overused and batman has brilliant stories the games should to. If you like batman at all you should read batman arkham asylum serious house on serious earth what the first game was based on great comic. (just download cbr reader and a cbr of the comic). PS killing joke's good too.
+Hitome I thought the whole Batman feel was ruined by the inclusion of the Batmobile. It really just didnt have a place, and it added to errors like blowing up unmanned tanks (if Arkham Knight put a person in them, then what). Tbh the whole game wasnt as good as the previous ones including Origins.
Welp I guess I have to give-in and get Undertale now. As an outsider who knows nothing about it this feels like Five Nights all over again. Edit: I was comparing the rabidness of the fans and haters alike, not the quality or genre of the two games :P
+LittleshyFiM Mate, I have finished undertale 4 times, and let me tell you, it is quite a thing to behold. Walk into it with no prior knoledge, and i swear you will enjoy yourself. And if not, then come back and call me an arsehole.
I'm actually quite surprised he enjoyed Witcher 3 as much as he did, given his "meh" reaction to the other two. Physical confirmation that CD Projekt Red knocked it out of the park, from stonecold Yahtzee himself.
What I don't get about the "undertale haters" is that they proudly say they hate undertale and expect anything other than a shitstorm. I don't like undertale, I don't Believe it's this second coming of Christ everyone talks it up to be, but I won't troll a comment section saying "LOL UNDERTALE IS SHIT LOL" Seriously guys, grow up. You can dislike a game, that's fine. But do you really have to lord over the large amount of people that do?
Most of them do it for attention: *Insults fandom *Waits for flame replies *Insults fans defending game *Troll Wins after getting a rise from those that genuinely care about the game Rinse and repeat.
Ah yes i remember playing Undertale soon after it came out and it basically took my soul for a few months. (Not literally mind, I never got that ending.) Then Deltarune pops out of nowhere, reawakening my love for all things cute. So inevitably I replayed the pacifist ending again and started subconsciously auto-writing fanfics in my mind, where *[Hyper Spoilers]* and *everyone* lives happy ever after. "Forget about me", huh? Well Toby if you wanted that to mean anything why does the collector's edition include *[spoiler]* and why does Deltarune exit? Regardless, I look foward to chapter 2. All hail Toby Fox, God of Hyper Feels.
I finished SOMA two years ago and the experience still lives in my head rent-free. It got under my skin. When people talk about videogames as a medium for immersive storytelling, if not an art form, SOMA should be a point of discussion.
"Boy, this undertale game sure was fun. Glad I'm a boring old goody two shoes who got the pacifist ending in their first (and part of a second?) go. That ending was sweet... " ... "I wonder..." ... "What would happen if I were to..." ... "...Kill Everyone?" ... "I mean alot of games tend to pack fun stuff into their murder routes (loooking at you dishonored). And I'll bet I'll see all kinds of interesting secrets. I do oh so love to see everything possible in a game. Besides, whats the worst that could happen? If anything really goes wrong I can simply reset the game and start again..." ... "Its not like this game can remember this stuff... right?" ... "I think I'll just google what happens real quick... just in case..." * Spends next two hours researching the horrors of the genocide route and why it is the absolute worst possible thing you could do to a game and how it literally is nearly impossible to make the game forget like jesus christ is this game fucking alive holy shit * ... "Yeah I think I'm good"
I did a pacifist run, then reset and did genocide. It was crazy fun and heartwrenching right up until I got stuck on Undyne. I couldn't kill her lol adn if I can't kill her no way would I finish the game
"Only games I have reviewed. With that in mind... *proceeds to do 5 second review of Undertale to get it in the running*" I'll admit it, I laughed at that way harder than I should.
I ignored undertale for the longest time, not because I didn't like it, but because snotty 12 year olds kept shoving it in my face declaring it the best thing fucking ever cause sans made a fart joke, which ruined the experience for me, however now that I shuttered myself off from the hype and then actually went in and played it, I can firmly say I enjoyed it, I like the characters because they are actually well written with good personalities. But my point is, I can never actually get into things that people shove into my face and tell me its great, all the while giving me either non existent, or extremely poor reasoning as to WHY its such a good game.
Ill give you some reasons: The characters, while unassuming and cliche at first, have very deep and sometimes downright unnerving character arcs, even minor ones. The attention to detail for literally EVERY detail is astounding. Every part of the game has some sort of explanation in a detailed and meaningful way, either from discovering new dialogue or finding a piece of environmental storytelling. The narrative is extremely well-written. Not only do the characters really drive the surface level story in such a fascinating way, but the game introduces a sort of "meta-narraritive" that deconstructs and analyses the meaning and purpose behind typical RPG and video game mechanics and tropes. It fits in brilliantly with the main story and is unbelievably fleshed out. The soundtrack is hands down the best in any game I've played. Period. Not only does it do a fantastic job at setting so many different tones in a way that doesn't feel forced or incoherent, but the use of leitmotifs and secrets within the music also adds to the narrative and expands upon the story. Combat is unique. No battle ever gets stale. Attacks greatly differ from enemy to enemy and are fun as hell to play, especially if you enjoy bullethells. Finally, you have deep choices and meaningful consequences. Everything you do in the game is remembered, and has purpose and weight, even through multiple playthroughs, which goes along with the whole meta-narrative of deconstructing typical RPGs. You can ACT enough upon a monster, and eventually you'll be given a chance to spare it. Or, you could just kill it, which is easier. Even THIS, how killing is usually the easier solution, IS touched upon in the narrative and it's very thought-provoking. There you go. Id say those are some pretty valid points to convince you to try it out. If you DO end up giving it a shot, please pay attention to every little detail, from the music, to the world, to the characters. Every little detail, every story element, and every mechanic, is explained in great detail. Its not the greatest thing ever, but it's a damn great RPG.please give it a go.
Damon Llopiz first of, the guy you replied to did play the game, he stated so in his comment. Though secondly, now I actually feel interested enough in Undertale to give it a go, thanks, I think.
Heath Dan Yeah, I know, I just wanted to show that not all Undertale fans are snotty 12 year olds who spew nonsense. I do not blame him in the slightest for making the comment though, a large portion of the fanbase are like that. It sucks to like a game with such an awful fandom infecting it. And I'm glad to see you'll give it a try.
Damon Llopiz the community of a game is what sucks me in, so when it's a bad community then there's a good chance I'm not gonna play the game. But overall I'm into games so I can have new experiences and enjoy a story, so if Undertale does have a well written story I'm happy to give it a go.
Heath Dan Yeah, sadly the community doesn't realize how toxic it can be and ends up annoying everyone else. But yeah it's a great game and I highly recommend it.
Has anyone else found it funny that people bash the Undertale fanbase, more than we actually see the fanbase? It's like the Internet went into critical levels of hate toward any online community, without any real cause. As for the game itself, it's really worth a go. The best part of singleplayer games, is that even if the community is shit, you can still enjoy the game. ^.^
+Reloaded Dice I find your comment funny because I have witnessed the exact opposite. The people who didn't like the game are in the distinct minority, and everyone else is going apeshit over it, won't stop talking about it and are flooding the internet with it, with keyboard warriors ready to rip to pieces anyone who dares to claim they dislike their game or say it shouldn't be 10/10 game of the year and who think the only reason people don't like it are either they are contrarian hipsters or they just haven't played it. It is literally reenacting the inception of the brony fandom. This is not something to be proud of.
Reloaded Dice It wasn't the fact that they *existed* that was the problem. It was how they came to be and the effect they had on just about everything on the net. It was this whole big dramatic thing, 4chan was ground zero for it. I don't really want to get into it.
Undertale is the first game in a while that had me losing track of time while playing it. I haven't had such a clever, succinct, enjoyable gaming experience since Valve released the first Portal game.
Undertale was okay. Like, the story was cute and yeah, it sort of played with RPG tropes, but I wasn't blown away with it like most people were. Nothing wrong with loving a game, though. I'm sure anybody that doesn't like Undertale has their own Undertale they passionately defend. Why they choose to shit on Undertale is anybody's guess.
+HyperCubed4 A combination of a cancerous fanbase and indignation at the idea of the game being considered game of the year material by crowds of screeching morons. Not saying that anyone who likes the game is a moron, but if you seriously think this game is GOTY material you need to start wearing a fucking helmet.
***** And here we go! It's a cute game. You play as a little kid who plays with monsters and, if you get the right ending, you convince a flower/goat/demon child thing not to be evil and everyone lives happily ever after. It's Pixar levels of cute. It's not complex storytelling. If you want to argue about the theme of pacifism in regards to video game mechanics, then I would agree that pacifism in an RPG is a cool mechanic. In regards to the story, however, it's pretty plain. I would argue that the Genocide route is a much more interesting way to experience the story, because you're going against what you're expected to do. Not that it matters, because LISA: The Painful/Joyful have much better narratives than Undertale. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
HyperCubed4 "Pretty plain story" >Game destroys its own fourth wall in a way that isn't comedic but instead makes you question your actions in every other RPG you've ever played where you slaughter wildlife for XP Ok.
Really happy to see someone recognise SOMA as one of the best games of 2015. It flew under the radar and exploded. I've got it out of boredom, thought it was one of those B grade games that you play through just to add it to the "done" department, but boy was i mistaken. This one goes deep literally and mentaly.
Lot of mixed reactions regarding Undertale in the comments so here's my thoughts regarding my experience. Light Undertale spoilers: My first experience in Undertale, I had not read anything and knew nothing about the game, only that it was supposed to be worth playing. I started playing through the game and got told by a couple of the characters that I should try to show mercy, or that I could talk to some of the creatures. Sure I thought, though it was concerning that I wasn't getting any exp I figured there would be plenty of time to grind if I needed to but I killed a couple here or there that I couldn't work out how to spare (specifically Migosp) so if I ran into that guy I would attack and kill him. I got to the part of the game where Toriel blocks you off from proceeding and I'd explored the entire ruins. I didn't realise some monsters reacted to repeatedly "sparing" so I eventually tried fighting her to weaken her a bit (like a pokemon, right?) and then she might react differently. I didn't want to kill her as she had been really kind from the beginning of the game and had a parental vibe with the main character, and I already felt bad for fighting her in the first place. Of course after taking off a little over half her health, I did a super attack that killed her in one hit, and after she died I felt like total shit. Instead of going through to the next room, I reset the game and started again. This time I didn't kill anything because I felt terrible about killing Toriel. I got to her again, worked out how to get her to yield, and moved on. I immediately met Flowey again, who ACKNOWLEDGED THE FACT THAT I HAD RESET THE GAME OUT OF GUILT. I murdered her and reset the game because I regretted it. I'm not sure why but that hit me really powerfully. After that I was totally hooked. I did not have a hard time investing in the characters or the world, and enjoyed the "bullet hell shooter" style fight mechanics. The game is funny and charming if you let it take you in. So that's my 2c. People aren't just jumping on the bandwagon, nor is it relying on Earthbound nostalgia (since I never played Earthbound but still had a great experience with this). After finishing the game, I could not bring myself to ruin my game with a genocide route so I watched a let's play and Flowey even called me pathetic from within the other player's game. It's deconstructive, clever, funny and well written and I think for the price everyone should give it a look.
Regarding Undertale: Meta-narrative is where art goes to die. Art concerned with itself is parody art. Video games are increasingly focused on providing a meta-narrative, games that in-narrative consider themselves games , like Stanley Parable. Such games can never have as much impact as Journey, Shadow of the Colossus or Silent Hill where the in-story narrative is central . Undertale is an exception. It does it so well because the meta-narrative is part of the story, not the story itself. Undertale uses meta elements to create feelings of confusion or dread or surprise, elements that directly tie to how the in-narrative storytelling is delivered. The narrative is character driven, not driven by art-introspection.The world is video-game and the characters know it but the world only sets the rules of the narrative, not the narrative itself (Much like the .hack// series but better). Undertale is great.
+TheBUCfifty I exclusively play an untranslated serbian indie rpg maker game that critiques conservative values and explores the pains of growing up different in a 1st world country through modern art and interpretative dance. It's called FMSUF. But you wouldn't know anything about that.
Mistress Bedlam Does it have a soundtrack recorded on vinyl that can only be played on a HMV Model 97b 1937 gramophone? If not, then I'm not interested.
He often references American politics in his vids. He made a great joke about the lore of Dark Souls being like the choice between a Clinton or Trump Presidency.
Absolutely nothing. For the Democrat debates he was just there. You had the feeling the only ones that would actually vote for him were three dudes in the audience and his wife.
erybotond Gonna go with Undertale, pretty much for the same reasons as Yahtzee. Sure, Witcher 3 probably deserves all the credit it gets, buuuut I have a thing for meta-narratives, toying with expectations, having fun with the game's mechanics and design and not being afraid of experimenting with them, and some good ol' deconstruction. Undertale does game narrative rather splendidly. Sure, the game isn't all that subtle, it doesn't offer major moral dilemmas nor philosophies that challenge your thinking, its overall morality is very black and white, and gameplay mechanics pretty simplistic, but what it does with the game design is something I cannot ignore. Still, it's very much a niche game, so seeing it sell over half a million copies is something I didn't expect to see. Kinda like what happened with Dark Souls 1. But honestly, I'm happy it has gotten so much attention.
Thank fucking God, I'm not the only one who was dissapointing with "The Beginner's Guide". Thowing that arround with the same price tag of The Stanley Parable, and yet having NO replayability, even less story, and literally nothing to do but run forward for an hour and a half (when at least The Stanley Parable had a ton of jokes and babies burning to death somewhere in the middle) is just pathetic and felt like a scam. But at least I got my refund, jokes on the dev.
I think The Beginner's Guide is one of those games that's only going to hit home if you can relate to it. My life has been pretty good as lives go, so I doubt that kind of introspective game would really be my kind of thing.
+BadassFreeman Damn, there's not liking a game, but Jesus. The game has gained plenty of praise (including from Jim Sterling, whom I trust), ad you got your refund, so there's no need to slam it. Also, it should be noted that only games Yahtzee has reviewed on Zero Punctuation are viable for the list, so whether the game didn't make the list because of that or because he wouldn't have liked it anyways is something we'll never know.
+BadassFreeman Same, I was so disappointed in that game while expecting high because of some reviews. To me it was like the developer telling his personal story/issue with another individual and thinking please forgive me for ripping you off and adding some shit to your creation. Same joke that you played on the devs were done by me.
+Cole Train Pretty sure every community has their ups and downs. The talented artists make some rather amazing art, the promising people with talents get influenced by it and set out to make something great in the future, the casual fans are the silent majority as always... the rabid fans tear down anyone that does anything that doesn't please them while shouting so loudly that they overshadow the rest of the community and then there are the ones with obsessions that have gone too far... And this stands for the sub-categories as well.
The community is a classic example of "good in small doses" you look at a few pieces of fan art, watch a video or two and it's nice, but get deeper, and it becomes over whelming quickly
Ben Little That's pretty much every community in a nutshell. Yes, even the Sonic fandom has some rather good fan-creations, like a huge amount of pretty good remixes of the songs, and some artwork. But that part of the fandom is kinda overshadowed by the... other things.
That Undertale review at the beginning was so good I just wanna watch it over and over. It's so lovely how it contradicts every Zero Punctuation review thus far by not bashing the game with a single drop of dark humor. The dissonance of it is hilarious and is just the best.
Star Wars Battlefront 2 had more wookies in it than the new battlefield game. And that's not hard because the new battlefield game has no wookies what so ever.
Yahtzee's review of Undertale becomes even more awesome at 2x speed. Yes, I am incredibly bored right now to the point where I'm watching old Zero Punctuation videos while messing with the speed setting.
i've barely seen any Undertale OCs yet but that's probably because i haven't paid a visit to DeviantArt in some time now. though i did start questioning humanity when i found Frisk/Sans porn when i simply looked up "undertale comics"
Advice: Instead of saying something is overrated use the phrases "it wasn't my thing", "I didn't really see the appeal", "I didn't get it/like it". It means the same thing but it doesn't make you sound like a fucking asshole who's angry that other people have different opinions.
+Tovi Boi On gameplay alone, I agree, but the negative hype the devs relied on to actually get publicity likely influenced Yahtzee's and many others opinion that it is a worst contender.
I wasn't very interested in playing Witcher 3, but everyone was saying that it was amazing, so I bought it. After playing about 6 hours, I decided that It was an alright game but I can't say it impressed me at all. I was actually disappointed because it didn't live up to the hype. From what I saw, the main story is a somewhat generic person hunt, and the side quests were spread out enough that it makes the game more frustrating and tedious than fun. Either that or there aren't many side quests at all in each area and the leveling system is fucked up pretty badly. In general, a bit of a letdown for me. That being said, I doubt I will ever play Undertale.
***** just because people put a lot of work into it doesn't make it good and the gameplay is atrocious. The story that I saw wasn't very impressive at all, I enjoyed Fallout 4's story much more than Witcher 3's and all the content in the world can't save a boring game with a messy user interface, shitty leveling system, and gameplay which would need a major overhaul just to be mediocre.
***** whether a story is good or not is opinion. Terrible gameplay isn't opinion.Unless you like having a dodge key combo and a dodge roll key combo that are not even close to each other and don't get you out of the way of danger anyways, a block key that doesn't do shit, a leveling system that practically requires you to hunt down every side quest of your level just to level up, a character who seems to never know when to unsheathe his sword and not giving you the ability to draw it yourself, etc. I can keep on going with the bad design but I won't
***** If you can unsheathe and sheathe your sword at any time, then they certainly didn't show you how in the tutorial, where you would show players how to do things like that. The block key doesn't work against anything and all the dodge roll keys ever did was send me flying into another enemy. The only thing I found that actually worked was mashing the attack button and occasionally and clumsily using spells because they made that frustratingly easy to fuck up as well. I don't know how you were capable of leveling up so fast because I was only able to get to level 3 with all the quests in the area being level 5 or higher. Gameplay is not subjective when it is designed as clumsily like this one was. There is just too much cluttering the combat and it is too easy to do something you didn't want to do. If it was something like Skyrim, I could have tolerated it, but they just threw way too much into it. There is making something challenging, and then there is making something frustrating and this falls more on the frustrating end.
Undertale is basically "Rocko's Modern Life: The Game" as interpreted by Tim Burton. The Bonetrousle theme even sounds like mid-80s Elfman-era Oingo Boingo (which adds to that Burtonesque vibe). Oh, and it has a lot of the same character archetypes (Alphys is totally Filbert).
But THAT'S the whole reason of the bland list. It's not bad, but it's not good either. It's in the grey area between Bad and Good. It never did stuff that was bad, but nothing good either. A much nicer way of putting it is Top 5 Neutral Games of 2015.
Isn't that the majority of game industry currently; games that don't do anything? On the flip side I feel with COD finally declining, as well as the success of CDPR, Kojima getting his own studio, as well as the work from ID and From Software. Not to mention how many publishers are starting to notice their games aren't doing as well as the fore mentioned. It would seem the industry is starting to resort back to its innovation era; though this is merely an assumption..
The little I've read about undertale just said "pretentious & quirky for the sake of quirkiness, focus on a bland story in a dull world". I know nobody who has any opinion on the game. Why the hype?
+Risakisa What you have heard is opinions from people that have not played the game. Explaining the hype over it would ruin the ENTIRE experience for you. If you have 10$/£, give it a shot, you might enjoy yourself.
Risakisa Take the Word of a complete stranger and at least torrent it. I really won't tell you to pay Money for it if you're this far on edge on the game, but I urge you to just try it, and not let other people's opinions affect your own.
+Risakisa You should just play it and forms your own opinion on it. It's received critical appraise, so whether you like it or not doesn't come down to whether it's a "bad game" but whether or not it aligns with your preferences. Asking for people to justify the hype is going to get you exactly what you don't want in order to fully enjoy it; spoilers, overhype, etc.
During the "Worst Games" intros, all I could think about was... "I'm a bad troll... a very bad troll..." (One internet for anyone who gets that reference without the use of Google.) Great video as always, Yahtzee. Love your content. Keep up the good work.
My favorite games in no particular order 1. halo 5 for being the best MP game of this year for me 2. Bloodborne for being the most atmospheric game of this year for me 3. Metal Gear 5 for being the best stealth game I've played in years 4. Fallout 4 for having the most amount of player freedom 5. The Witcher 3 for just being fun in general These are just my opinions.
Fallout 4 doesn't have as much player freedom as New Vegas due to essential NPCs. If it was like new vegas, the entirety of the Minutemen would be wiped out by ME
I mean fallout 4 for having the most player freedom that year is a fine statement. Overall though I think the games industry is realising how hard it is to try and make truly open world games every single year so they just give you illusions of it. That game had so much pointless empty space that honestly just made me feel bored and not thrilled by the prospect of exciting things around the corner.
The song that he plays for the Most Worst is "Song of the Volga Boatmen". It's a Russian piece about the tedium of pulling a boat to shore. Yahtzee's pretty much describing his job with that one song.
Well Fallout 4 did try new things, if they were good or not its yours to decide but I think it would be really unfair to claim that Fallout 4 didn't try to add to the formula.
Undertale certainly deserved its spot on this list. It's a great, well-designed game with fun characters and a good story. When I first played it, I enjoyed it immensely. But after a few months seeing it canvased across every piece of available territory on the internet, I'm sad to say I've become a bit embittered towards it. As much as I loved the game itself, I can't help but cringe every time I see fan art of it, and I can never get on board with the incessant praise it receives as soon as it's brought up anywhere, immediately derailing any existing conversation and abandoning the burning remains in favour of showering the game with accolades. It's a good game, a great one, one of the best I've played in fact, but I am so tired of it.
+Mono Chrome This is why I don't associate with any fandoms and just ignore them completely, they just ruin shit. On another note, its kinda' hypocritical to say this when your profile picture being a fan art of MLP. A piece of media with a fandom that makes Undertales' look like a group of enlightened scholars.
+AwesomeGamerOfMystery You make a valid point. A fair part of the MLP fandom is really, really annoying. To be fair, though, I haven't actually watched the show for a solid year. I just can't bring myself to change my profile picture because it was drawn for me by a friend as a birthday present.
+AwesomeGamerOfMystery Maybe they feel that way about bronies too, but they didn't mention it because it has nothing to do with this video. Though as a long time pegasister myself, gotta say I think we're slowing down a lot. Oh sure we're still huge, but we're not THE THING anymore. Undertale on the other hand is just getting started.
Yahtzee, I agree with you on Halo 5. I beat the first mission and played a few hours of the multiplayer before never touching it again. It was so fucking boring. Nothing interesting happened at all. And removing couch co-op ruined the game for me.
Jagannath Barman It's a CoD game. Campaign is worthless and boring, multiplayer consists of me using one gun for everything, and they somehow managed to make Zombies boring, even though that last part may just be me not having anyone to play it with most of the time.
The reason i can't stand UnderTale, is because of those people that say "The choices actually matter, not like 90% of games." or "The games story is actually good, unlike every thing else lately." It's like they can't find words to describe why they think it's so good, so instead they just make everything else out to be shit that isn't UnderTale. Reminds me too much of those "I played back in Vanilla back when the game was good, and hard!" people from World of Warcraft, all they do is bum people out for trying to find enjoyment in new stuff even though apparently unplayable trash that isn't even worth thinking about.
+Methose Xemas Who the fuck cares? At this point the entire game has been spoiled, considering it is only good if you have never heard of it. Even people saying "It's good just trust me the ending is awesome, but do a pacifist run that's the best." that is technically a spoiler. It's like saying "Funny joke ahead" and the joke relies on you not seeing it coming. Also, the internet is filled with people that spoil shit intentionally or not. Just tell me why it is so perfect and deserves to belittle every game i like and make me feel like a shithead for liking games that aren't it.
+Jordan Ricketts I won't be able to tell you why it's so perfect that it belittles every game you like and make you feel like a shithead, but I WILL tell you that it's really good because it uses interesting characters, somewhat unexplored mechanics, and great humor. It pulls everything off so well that many people can't help but love it. The only thing I can think of that will ruin the experience is going in with preconceptions about 'how lame pixel graphics are', stuff like that. If you really want spoilers though, i'll spill everything.
+Jordan Ricketts One reason I like it that isn't really a spoiler (or maybe it is) is that the game is aware when you load an old save, or if you reset a save file after doing something you regret or feel ruined your game. The boss knows that you loaded a save after it killed you and might become depressed about the fact that you will keep doing so until you eventually win, and maybe that sends him towards nihilism since no matter how strong he is with enough tries you will beat him. That kind of thing. It's not, say, making you feel like a puppet master or pointing out that you're "playing a game", but rather the fact that if your character has a super power it would be saving and loading. Choices have consequence which shapes every part of the game that follows in a meaningful way, and every subsequent event will be altered by any decisions giving the game a lot of replay value (and I'm not just talking about the polar opposite good/bad, there are many forks along the road in a neutral playthrough which make big adjustments to the way characters treat you etc). A lot of thought and care went into sculpting a personal experience for every person who goes into the game, and for the people who want to play it many times to chase every difference and every alternate route. I'm not going to say "unlike everything else lately", but I think the game is refreshing and it's not like $10 and 6 hours is going to end your life. I think it's an experience worth having for this investment..
Best review for Undertale ever. Also, I guess the best way to sort of sell the game to someone is to clue them in on the fact that the game saves details without you knowing and will call you out on your behavior.
What's funny is that this was my first exposure to Undertale. I literally had no other context than "Yahtzee put it at #1 for his Top 5 Games of 2015.”
And his review is, Its Good. That basically saying its made of pure gold studded with precious gemstones
Then he did a good thing. I'm happy for you.
Now Undertale is his #1 game of the decade
@@thomasallen9974 In fairness, that's a pretty accurate summation.
Of course, if you're going into it with the pre-expectation that it's the second coming of Portal, you'll be sorely disappointed - because no game could ever possibly live up to the game you build in your head when someone starts pumping you up with hype for it
Tbf not knowing any context is the best way to experience Undertale. I own it but don't intend of playing it because the magic is lost as I know too much to fully enjoy it.
"Undertale is a good game."
Dear god, I think that is the most overwhelmingly positive review Yahtzee has ever done.
look at his review of portal
Richard V Lionerheart was just gonna say that
Idk, but i think its the deapest and most informative review
ever
I’m guessing because of this he didn’t actually do a review. No flaws.
I'd say his review of psychonauts is better.
I love undertale don't get me wrong but it's kind of tedious I mean I had to go to the kitchen several times to cut onions
Syed Shahood Ali LOL!
Tedious for u, I really enjoyed it and its one of my favorites
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@@oriya1385 Our friend "Sha Hood" from 4 years ago was joking. You did not get the joke. Amar here was explaining this to you.
Finally started playing Undertale. An hour in and i've already went "awww," almost cried, and laughed my ass off.
Yeah, Undertale can do that to you.
JakeAnd Kyra I went through the whole thing I didn't cry.
The ending of metal gear solid 3 and metal gear solid 4 made me almost cry.
I laughed, got true pacifist, cried, looked on internet for way to help asriel, failed, looked up One by One on Archiveofourown, and made my peace with the series. You're welcome.
idontwantachannelfuckyougoogle Oh, One by One! I love that story!
"And the jewelbox heavens rotated ever onwards, as the world moved into the relentless future."
Somehow ... for every Undertale fan mentioning the game somewhere out of context I see about 2489 comments telling me how obnoxious the fanbase apparently is.
So yeah, Undertale fanbase haters are worse than the Undertale fanbase.
+cryoboy The only evidence I have for the Undertale fanbase being awful is people telling me that the Undertale fanbase is awful.
+Somatic Apparition Can't see the field for all the strawmen, yep.
+Somatic Apparition exactly! the only way to find these "awful fans" is to actively look for them. plus its a SINGLE PLAYER GAME! who cares!
***** It's like kicking a wasp's nest and then suing the wasps for damages afterwards. (wierd metaphor, i know)
*****
I kinda feel the same every time someone mentions Tumblr as some kind of boogeyman dragging everything down too. I use it and I just find nice art and friendly people; imagine that, its a social platform you tailor to your interests where you can block or follow whoever you want. How the heck are they finding all these supposedly terrible fans unless they're just digging for it?
Totalbiscuit, Jim Sterling, AND Yahtzee, my 3 favorite critics, gave my new favorite game their GOTY award. Man, my confirmation bias is kicking into overdrive right now.
+Syyborg Gaming IKR!
+Preston Garvey At least it's not raining.
+Preston Garvey shut up and back to patrolling around like a useless AI you are
+Syyborg Gaming But TB chose Overwatch!
guguy00 it was tied, I think.
your undertale review was fantastic
+Alex Valiente haha i agree
+Alex Valiente I love how at the beginning of the video he was already calming down the Undertale Fandom as this is a show about negative comments against certain videogames. XD
+Alex Valiente It met all of my standards
but what happened to jc3? :0 its honestly my favourite game of the year (or at least one of them)
+PattyjoAtwork There were so many bland games this year, he can't possibly fit all of them into a top 5...
For those who are on the fence about playing Undertale, mainly because of the fanbase unfortunately turning into FNAF's kind of fanbase, don't let these types of things deter you from trying something interesting, as Undertale is this popular because of the charm it has, and several of the things Yahtzee mentioned above. Go ahead and try it out, and if someone judges you for playing it merely because of the fanbase, then shame on them.
+1odie2 Really I find judging a game based on those type of fans to be unfair. In reality these annoying fans are just a vocal minority, but they have the loudest voice and since you hardly hear from the people who are separate from this vocal minority, people tend to assume that all of the fan base consists of this vocal minority. This seems to be the case with EVERY fandom, be they game or movie or TV etc. etc.
Holy shit even Yahtzee loved Undertale?!
Fuck, now I do have to go play it.
Here's a quick word of advice:
Play the game without convening your experience with ANYONE who has already played it. Trust me, people who have beaten Undertale are all too happy to ruin it with tips and spoilers, and it's best played as blind as possible. Even Yahtzee refused to do a full review because he thinks saying anything about the game's content will be an unnecessary spoiler. Keep playing, and ignore anyone who's already played it until the game has nothing more to offer you.
Zapsie Thank you!
+ZeNewDragon Oooh it's based after Earthbound? I need to play it too then, I've been loving Citizens of Earth with its Earthbound feel.
+Zapsie An addendum to that is as well as going into it blind in a content/spoiler sense, you should also try to lose any preconceptions you get from people who either overly hate it or love it and label it "pretentious hipster indie trash" or "Dah best game evar!!". (Not saying the game's absolutely perfect, but a lot of people seem to throw a lot of hate at it for personal/preferential reasons and what it's associated with rather than take it on it's own merit.)
+DastardlyGaming Technically speaking, it's not based on Earthbound. However, Earthbound is a very big inspiration for it, and if you like Earthbound, there is a very big chance you'll like Undertale.
Personally, Mother 3 was the best RPG of all time (in my personal opinion) before Undertale came along and wrecked it (in my personal opinion, wanna get that out there as much as possible so insane people don't take this the wrong way and I end up with unnecessary hate mail again).
The Order 1886. The longest tech demo ever.
+tgillies101 Amen to that.
+The Abominable GMan
Yes, but it was fun demos with more then basic gameplay that took five minutes to make.
+tgillies101 what about ryse?
+Brian Rabadue He never said it made them bad games. Did you not understand that he's responding to the OP?
+Redzos10 true. what a fucking horrible game. i dont get why mindless slobs love this game.
Its funny that they were originally planning on doing a trilogy of garbage The Order 1886 games lol.
You comment on everything i watch.
+Jonathan Rouse You watch everything he comments
+Jonathan Rouse Hiiii Johnnnnnnnn
that game makes ryse look like a gameplay masterpiece
Trilogy?!
I hated Undertale
Like how are you supposed to play the game with tears in your eyes?!
you suck the tears back into your eyes and beat the boss!
+Silvester Zamora
No. You let the tears wash off all your restraints and fill you with DETERMINATION.
Gunner193 Haha, good one
+Chu-Raya ill be honest, what? I feel like I missed something.
Unnamed Visitor You missed the whole Undertale experience if you don't know what we mean.
Do yourself a gigantic favor and play it. You won't regret it.
So Undertale haters summed up as
"The fanbase sucks"
Alright, well what about the game?
"It's overrated trash"
Okay, that's fine, but what did you think of the game?
"Oh I haven't actually played it"
AHAHAHA Made my day!
KyoZero it's a bit boring and when on a genocide run unfair and still boring
+daniel johnston Translation: "I suck at bullet hell"
not really I have beat plenty of bullet hells I just was really bored by undertale
I'd argue "that's kind of the point", but ultimately it's your opinion.
I only played Undertale because of this video... dear lord what a good game
>Comfort Him
>Do Not
I am glad everyone reviews undertale as "go into it as blind as possible" because that is where it truely shines
+andrew smith Sadly it's nearly impossible to go in all that blind cause every reccomendation i get comes with a "Do this. then do this, then do this"
+nanatheneko
Don't forget to have a good time.
***** and it's things like that that turned me off the game. People telling me how to play. I'll play how I want. If I dislike the end I got I replay it to see the other endings. But people specifically telling me what to do is irritating as hell
I was about to roast your ass, but since you have a Bastion profile picture, I'll let you go Scott free.
Idiot Phobe thanks m2^3
Yahtzee says something bad about a game. People get mad.
Yahtzee says he likes a game. People get mad.
Let's face it--we're just just angry people.
So is yahtzee.
forshor1998
Fair point.
we are what we watch, are we not?
fuck you, you're wrong
Of course. We're here, aren't we?
Just want to let you (yes YOU, guy scrolling through the comments) know.
The whole comment section is basically one big discussion about loving or hating Undertale...
I stopped scrolling after I read this. Thanks.
Well played sir
I already assumed, but thanks anyway
this comment is underrated. I applaud your good deed sir!
Wow I haven't laughed out loud to a video in a long time, but I burst out during the "Undertale review" holy shit xD
+Viva "IMMATOONLINK" Reverie This was one of his best videos in a long time.
+Mr. Scott Nha if he does half of the internet is going to kill him on spot, even if he lives on jail
+Vincenzo Paollo Grieco He's criticized popular games before. He just didn't find anything bad with the game. Honestly, I can't think of anything either, other than "graphics" but that would be a massively stupid thing to point out for a game like that one.
It's got atmosphere, varied gameplay, humour, actual emotion and a reasonable amount of character development. It's got interesting characters and different KINDS of humour (stupid humour, puns, silly characters, etc) It does a whole lot right and very little notably wrong... so it's hard for yahtzee to make one of his usual reviews.
you actually found any part of this video funny?
KuroroSama42 For me it does not have a good replay value, and i think that since that something you only see if you obessive compusive play the game, so i think he did not pay atention to that if he did he say something to the lines of "i would not want to replay the game just for the sake of the characters saying "heve you see this before?" or for Sans make me go back three times so that he give me a key to a room where the fan base can jizz in the pants for theorys about him", and how annoying it is to begin the genocide run, i know for both the things i said a "the game was not desing for replay value or for the genocide run" can be used as a reason, but still is for these resons i give Undertale a 8,5 out 10
You know what's worse than the Undertale fanbase? Undertale haters.
DoctorHunt11 It has become a meme really. "The fanbase is bad", but NO ONE EXPLAINS why. Like seriously, what is so bad about it?
We, The Impartial, are the real victims, We get abused by the haters for defending its good qualities, And then we get abused by the fanbase for being even the littlest bit critical. It's Bullshit.
DoctorHunt11 fuck tumblr. Honestly, too much people is criticizing the game and the fans because of a shitty website.
Jep, both are annoying. So I just got the game for sale, played through all endings, loved it, and put it aside. I recommend everyone doing the same.
Danox94 Maybe the fact that people have gotten legitimate death threats because they killed a character in a let's play?
Maybe because the fan base WON'T let you play the way you want to?
Maybe because they spoil everything in the comments?
my one gripe with undertale is the same as Jared's: that it was spoiled for me by the people who already played it. I wish i could have gone in blind, i probably would have loved it more
I'm lucky in that I had no friends to spoil it for me, and I only heard of the game when it became hugely popular, and as a result I recoiled from it, because I react negatively to things that are overly hyped. So by the time I finally _did_ look into it, it was about a year later, and nobody was talking about it enough anymore to risk spoilers, so I got a totally blind play of it, and it was glorious.
I sort of screwed the pooch and spoiled it for myself by watching a play through. I realized my mistake too late. :(
I actually managed to go in blind. Somehow. I'm really bad at keeping spoilers away from myself since I actually look them.up.
What Jared? Is it THAT Jared?
Me: Goes up to friend who has played undertale "I am thinking of playing undertale soon"
Friend: "Oh make sure not to [Possible spoiler] otherwise [Possible spoiler] won't happen and if you [possible spoiler] make sure to reset before [possible spoiler] otherwise your game is going to [possible spoiler] forever."
Whenever I miss working at GameStop, I always have Yatzhee to refreshingly slap me in the face with a large TH-cam-video-shaped trout with the expressed purpose of reminding me that I am a dumb twat for thinking that way.
+Evan1151 I read your comment in Yatzhee's voice. Here's your thumb up, good man.
I have a fast talking conscience with a British accent ranting and making analogies about stuff too.
+Evan1151 I for some reason read this in Yatzhee's voice.
+Evan1151
What's wrong with GameStop?
+General Tullius My experience with GameStop was as follows:
- Hype loses its novelty. The same games are released over and over and the same people you see come into your store week in and week out keep buying in. The marketing is relentless and you only see it for what it is once you've been forcibly exposed to it repetitively; psychotically-manipulative. The same thing over and over again in every title, even if its not.
- The droll repetition of the popular titles makes the relatively few unique ones vanish in a cloud of guilt-by-association. You stop singling out the better ones in your overall view because in the end it's all the same nonsense. They want you to want to keep up with it all, even though doing so is financially impossible.
- I worked five midnight openings for Madden, six midnight openings for Halo, five Christmases and five black Fridays in a busy shopping mall store where the whole mall could be dead and we would still be busier than a goddamned theme park. I noticed two things: 1) Patterns in people's gaming routines, and 2) buying habits that creepily and sadly match the intended effect of mass-marketing. Example: it takes people an average of two weeks to beat their games - one week to come and buy new games, one week where we're dead on a Saturday wondering what the hell is going on, and the next week we get slammed with trade-ins. When Madden time rolls around, people trade in more and more valuable titles for what is essentially "new players, shinier helmets and also one gameplay tweak". You see these games people trade in, some of which are really good, for shit money in return and wonder what the sudden sports game connosiuer will have left after he trades in Madden, WHICH THEY ALMOST ALWAYS DO, USUALLY WITHIN A MONTH OR TWO. So they're either bored quickly by it or my customers were very much the "played it, done with it" variety. Also, sports games are year based so, like cars, they go down in value faster. Players looking to save some money are falling for the corporate trade-in value structure without realizing they're spending money and sacrificing good games on what is essentiually a rental.
- A kid punched his grandma in the face because he was being a spoiled brat. Banned from the store
- A nine year old kid tried to buy GTA: Vice City. I carded him for his driver's license, much to his protest. Threatens to get his dad. I gleefully oblige. He leaves. Returns with [SPECTACULARLY INEBRIATED] dad. After he is finished screaming incoherently at my face and asking what my [bad word] problem is, I read the ESRB label to the dad. Kid gets dragged out of the store by his ear. My boss is now in a good mood. We finally get to go home, which is good, because at this point it feels like it's been 9:25 for like five hours already.
- Lady asked me if we took passport photos. I think she was Ukranian. I sent her to Kay Jewelers.
- When one annoying ad campaign for an annoyingly popular shitty franchise vanishes, a similar one from a similarly shitty but puzzlingly popular franchise emerges in its place. Usually, it appears between the time you just got finished peddling the previous game in the franchise and the time some other franchise occupies the signage and GameStop TV. You come into work having completely forgotten about [some bullshit] and suddenly its all "THE RETURN OF THIS BULLSHIT IV" and you're all "Jesus fucking christ not This Bullshit again". From the ground floor of the one tech industry humanity is perpetually going bonkers over more than all the others, video game marketing is like a goddamned horror movie - Store signs and poster ads for game franchises are like those monsters in horror movies that not only just don't die, but keep coming back. Just when you almost forgot about them and thought they were long gone, BAM; the sign for the next one appears, like if Groundhog Day and Texas Chainsaw Massacre were the same goddamned movie. They're back in an even shittier sequel that will haunt your waking life and also your recurring nightmares forever, again, a fourth time, not counting expansion packs, which aren't canon anymore so they're gonna do new expansion backs, probably. AND EVERYONE WILL ASK ABOUT IT, AND YOU CAN'T TELL THEM IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY, BECAUSE THEN you're THE CRAZY ONE.
- CHRONOS - The Stingy Skynet. Lots of retailers use it, it's an automated system that lives in the GameStop network. It grades employee sales performance and doles out hours accordingly. Stores that sell the least Game Informer subs (or whatever bullshit they're pushing on people these days) get less hours in their district. Employees who are not the top tier performers get MAYBE three hours a week. Worth noting is that an average week will consist of Chronos distributing roughly 90 hours to a busy store like ours that must divide them amongst four full timers and six part timers. At some point, especially if you can't be bothered to shill magazine subscriptions to annoyed customers who are just there for their games, you are very much working at GameStop because you like it (read: are crazy), not because it makes you any real money.
even my dad can enjoy undertale
no, i'm actually seriously playing through undertale, with my dad, and he's having an alright time so far!
The only games my mother had played before she played Undertale was Diablo 1-3 and then she played Undertale. She hasn't beaten the game yet (Only Neutral so far) but she'll get there!
It seems you have made a terrible decision. Also honestly all the runs have powerful experiences but in different ways.
i can't get into undertale no matter how much I try, I liked some of the characters but can't see what the hype is about. Might put a day aside and try go through the whole thing.
He's having an alright time?
So, he's Not having a bad time?
Good. good. At least some are safe... unless, did you tell him?
im not sure if i should be scared or laughing at your profile picture
So that means Portal and Undertale are now the only games Yahtzee has nothing bad to say about.
He discussed the game a little bit in a column he made, and he doesn't think Undertale's flawless. He complained that the spritework was shoddy and inconsistent with what era of graphical style it was supposed to evoke, so I guess that's a worthwhile complaint.
Zapsie
Too bad I guess, was hoping we were looking at Zero Punctuation history in the making :P
+Zapsie what about papers please? He liked that game.
+Kathryn M Remember his review of Shadow of the Colossus?
+Kathryn M and Silent Hill 2, his favourite game.
god, 2015 really was a stacked year for great games
Undertale is so highly recommended & rated, even by Yahtzee here, I might as well give it a try. It's about $10, right? Not much I can lose even if I don't end up enjoying it, aside from a few gumballs I could had bought. Of course, I'll keep my expectations tempered, but I will raise my expectations a little more higher than usual.
Oh, right. Gotta put up this safety net first;
Fans of Undertale - please don't recommend a route for me to take. Haters of Undertale - I don't care about the fanbase, I just want to try the game, OK?
+Jinsei Cast
YOU SHOULD PLAY PACIFIST RUN FIRST GO HERE AND THERE AND HERE
LOL FUCKING SHEEP BUYING INTO THE HYPE WHAT A LOSER
Nonuv Urbeeznus
You messed up on the last paragraph ;p
+Jinsei Cast If you buy it on Steam, you can get a refund if as long as you have less than two hours of playtime.
A risk-free trial, basically. Don't expect to love or hate it for maximum effect.
You need to play how you fucking want seriously if you want to kill a fucker kill him
CrowFeathers I really didn't know about that. Thank you, this will be good to know for future purchases.
As much as I loved batman Arkham knight it totally deserves that spot.
+dave nic One of the very few constructive comments here.
Constructive criticism shouldn't have to be a rarity. The internet is a very bad place.
+dave nic I don't know...I actually enjoyed the experience after the non-buggy version was released. I think the batman-feel was much more enhanced with the vehicle since it's a signature. It also incorporated stealth mechanics into it. The only point I agree about Yahtzee on is the story...but I really don't play Batman games for the story and I'm not sure why he would either.
After playing all the current ones, I went back to Asylum to see if it has withstood the test of time. Suffice it to say, I was not impressed and am glad it evolved into a game like City.
***** I thought the batmobile combat mode was overused and batman has brilliant stories the games should to. If you like batman at all you should read batman arkham asylum serious house on serious earth what the first game was based on great comic. (just download cbr reader and a cbr of the comic). PS killing joke's good too.
+Hitome I thought the whole Batman feel was ruined by the inclusion of the Batmobile. It really just didnt have a place, and it added to errors like blowing up unmanned tanks (if Arkham Knight put a person in them, then what). Tbh the whole game wasnt as good as the previous ones including Origins.
Welp I guess I have to give-in and get Undertale now. As an outsider who knows nothing about it this feels like Five Nights all over again.
Edit: I was comparing the rabidness of the fans and haters alike, not the quality or genre of the two games :P
+LittleshyFiM Mate, I have finished undertale 4 times, and let me tell you, it is quite a thing to behold. Walk into it with no prior knoledge, and i swear you will enjoy yourself. And if not, then come back and call me an arsehole.
you might be doing your self a favor going in with low expectations. hype culture man. .....
+Jasper Daugaard Doesn't need to be a blind playthrough to enjoy it
seanxlive True, i went in knowing the *you know that guy* tricked you if you showed weakness, and i still found it phenominal
Undertale has a cohesive story with fleshed out characters. Legitimate work was put into it.
I'm actually quite surprised he enjoyed Witcher 3 as much as he did, given his "meh" reaction to the other two. Physical confirmation that CD Projekt Red knocked it out of the park, from stonecold Yahtzee himself.
And then they come back around with a big brown stain in their pants called Cyberpunk 2077
@@gordo3152 We shall see how it bodes for them in the future once the dust settles.
Given Yahtzee's hate boner for AAA games, putting Witcher 3 at number 3 is basically saying it's a masterpiece.
What I don't get about the "undertale haters" is that they proudly say they hate undertale and expect anything other than a shitstorm. I don't like undertale, I don't Believe it's this second coming of Christ everyone talks it up to be, but I won't troll a comment section saying "LOL UNDERTALE IS SHIT LOL"
Seriously guys, grow up. You can dislike a game, that's fine. But do you really have to lord over the large amount of people that do?
+kallonist You know what's worse than hatters provoking shitstorms?The people that actually FALL for it and engage in discussion.
What's wrong with discussion?
kallonist Because you can't discuss anything with a troll and it quickly turns into a shitstorm of insults and...well shit
+Ashuraman I'm not a troll, I have not insulted you. If you want to discuss undertale lets discuss undertale
Most of them do it for attention:
*Insults fandom
*Waits for flame replies
*Insults fans defending game
*Troll Wins after getting a rise from those that genuinely care about the game
Rinse and repeat.
funny, undertale went from being that one game yahtzee likes, to my entire existence for the last three months.
Hurrah!
quick note, he also likes Half Life and Portal
Which are both equally worth another three months of existence, each. ;D
Ah yes i remember playing Undertale soon after it came out and it basically took my soul for a few months. (Not literally mind, I never got that ending.)
Then Deltarune pops out of nowhere, reawakening my love for all things cute. So inevitably I replayed the pacifist ending again and started subconsciously auto-writing fanfics in my mind, where *[Hyper Spoilers]* and *everyone* lives happy ever after.
"Forget about me", huh? Well Toby if you wanted that to mean anything why does the collector's edition include *[spoiler]* and why does Deltarune exit?
Regardless, I look foward to chapter 2. All hail Toby Fox, God of Hyper Feels.
ayyy....
Holy Shit, Yatzee calling my hometown out at the end there.
You know that was part of an insult, right?
+Zachary Eschuk Of course it was. Calling someone out can be insulting.
ya but it got announced by yatzee himself
at least you're not Sussex.
itanimulli At least you're not Bolton
I finished SOMA two years ago and the experience still lives in my head rent-free. It got under my skin. When people talk about videogames as a medium for immersive storytelling, if not an art form, SOMA should be a point of discussion.
What about Hatfall?
*Snap, Snap*
I don't think he ever reviewed it.
thats what i want from his perspective and acting through the perspective of a person that paid for the game
+Dominic O Driscoll To be honest I expected that to be the best game... Or he could at least add it somewhere. PLAY HATFALL!
Underhat
"Boy, this undertale game sure was fun. Glad I'm a boring old goody two shoes who got the pacifist ending in their first (and part of a second?) go. That ending was sweet... "
...
"I wonder..."
...
"What would happen if I were to..."
...
"...Kill Everyone?"
...
"I mean alot of games tend to pack fun stuff into their murder routes (loooking at you dishonored). And I'll bet I'll see all kinds of interesting secrets. I do oh so love to see everything possible in a game. Besides, whats the worst that could happen? If anything really goes wrong I can simply reset the game and start again..."
...
"Its not like this game can remember this stuff... right?"
...
"I think I'll just google what happens real quick... just in case..."
* Spends next two hours researching the horrors of the genocide route and why it is the absolute worst possible thing you could do to a game and how it literally is nearly impossible to make the game forget like jesus christ is this game fucking alive holy shit *
...
"Yeah I think I'm good"
I completed a Genocide run.
My advice to all others: just don't.
Mafia200100
...
I completed it...
...
Thrice...
And I had a fun time...
Am I evil?
Some may say you have a
perverted sentimentality
spinningninja2 hi
I did a pacifist run, then reset and did genocide. It was crazy fun and heartwrenching right up until I got stuck on Undyne. I couldn't kill her lol adn if I can't kill her no way would I finish the game
"Only games I have reviewed. With that in mind... *proceeds to do 5 second review of Undertale to get it in the running*"
I'll admit it, I laughed at that way harder than I should.
I ignored undertale for the longest time, not because I didn't like it, but because snotty 12 year olds kept shoving it in my face declaring it the best thing fucking ever cause sans made a fart joke, which ruined the experience for me, however now that I shuttered myself off from the hype and then actually went in and played it, I can firmly say I enjoyed it, I like the characters because they are actually well written with good personalities. But my point is, I can never actually get into things that people shove into my face and tell me its great, all the while giving me either non existent, or extremely poor reasoning as to WHY its such a good game.
Ill give you some reasons:
The characters, while unassuming and cliche at first, have very deep and sometimes downright unnerving character arcs, even minor ones.
The attention to detail for literally EVERY detail is astounding. Every part of the game has some sort of explanation in a detailed and meaningful way, either from discovering new dialogue or finding a piece of environmental storytelling.
The narrative is extremely well-written. Not only do the characters really drive the surface level story in such a fascinating way, but the game introduces a sort of "meta-narraritive" that deconstructs and analyses the meaning and purpose behind typical RPG and video game mechanics and tropes. It fits in brilliantly with the main story and is unbelievably fleshed out.
The soundtrack is hands down the best in any game I've played. Period. Not only does it do a fantastic job at setting so many different tones in a way that doesn't feel forced or incoherent, but the use of leitmotifs and secrets within the music also adds to the narrative and expands upon the story.
Combat is unique. No battle ever gets stale. Attacks greatly differ from enemy to enemy and are fun as hell to play, especially if you enjoy bullethells.
Finally, you have deep choices and meaningful consequences. Everything you do in the game is remembered, and has purpose and weight, even through multiple playthroughs, which goes along with the whole meta-narrative of deconstructing typical RPGs. You can ACT enough upon a monster, and eventually you'll be given a chance to spare it. Or, you could just kill it, which is easier. Even THIS, how killing is usually the easier solution, IS touched upon in the narrative and it's very thought-provoking.
There you go. Id say those are some pretty valid points to convince you to try it out. If you DO end up giving it a shot, please pay attention to every little detail, from the music, to the world, to the characters. Every little detail, every story element, and every mechanic, is explained in great detail.
Its not the greatest thing ever, but it's a damn great RPG.please give it a go.
Damon Llopiz first of, the guy you replied to did play the game, he stated so in his comment. Though secondly, now I actually feel interested enough in Undertale to give it a go, thanks, I think.
Heath Dan Yeah, I know, I just wanted to show that not all Undertale fans are snotty 12 year olds who spew nonsense.
I do not blame him in the slightest for making the comment though, a large portion of the fanbase are like that. It sucks to like a game with such an awful fandom infecting it.
And I'm glad to see you'll give it a try.
Damon Llopiz the community of a game is what sucks me in, so when it's a bad community then there's a good chance I'm not gonna play the game. But overall I'm into games so I can have new experiences and enjoy a story, so if Undertale does have a well written story I'm happy to give it a go.
Heath Dan Yeah, sadly the community doesn't realize how toxic it can be and ends up annoying everyone else. But yeah it's a great game and I highly recommend it.
When Yahtzee out of all people puts Undertale to the number 1 spot right on the last minute like that YOU KNOW it's good.
Has anyone else found it funny that people bash the Undertale fanbase, more than we actually see the fanbase? It's like the Internet went into critical levels of hate toward any online community, without any real cause.
As for the game itself, it's really worth a go. The best part of singleplayer games, is that even if the community is shit, you can still enjoy the game. ^.^
+Reloaded Dice Your comment sums up my thoughts exactly.
+Reloaded Dice I find your comment funny because I have witnessed the exact opposite. The people who didn't like the game are in the distinct minority, and everyone else is going apeshit over it, won't stop talking about it and are flooding the internet with it, with keyboard warriors ready to rip to pieces anyone who dares to claim they dislike their game or say it shouldn't be 10/10 game of the year and who think the only reason people don't like it are either they are contrarian hipsters or they just haven't played it. It is literally reenacting the inception of the brony fandom. This is not something to be proud of.
Mistress Bedlam I don't really see why people hated on bronies so much either... I think some people just spend too much time on the internet,
Reloaded Dice
Probably.
Reloaded Dice It wasn't the fact that they *existed* that was the problem. It was how they came to be and the effect they had on just about everything on the net. It was this whole big dramatic thing, 4chan was ground zero for it. I don't really want to get into it.
You added blandest of the year and Farm Simulator 2015 STILL didn't get mentioned?
+Rwededyet He didn't do a review of it, although i'd love to see him rip it to shreds.
Somatic Apparition
Ripping it to shreds seems redundant. It's already a shred of a game.
Rwededyet OOOOOHHHHH SHIIIIIT BUURN
+Rwededyet ripping the shred of a game to shreds... shredception
He played it in his Drown Out series, he said that although is not an amazing game he enjoys playing nonetheless.
Never thought someone as cynical as Yahtzee would give Undertale his GOTY pick.
Ah, but Undertale is based off of Yahtzee's cynical complaints about games.
Undertale is the first game in a while that had me losing track of time while playing it. I haven't had such a clever, succinct, enjoyable gaming experience since Valve released the first Portal game.
I played Undertale thanks to your recommendation. I had a bad time.
I still loved it though.
Undertale was okay. Like, the story was cute and yeah, it sort of played with RPG tropes, but I wasn't blown away with it like most people were.
Nothing wrong with loving a game, though. I'm sure anybody that doesn't like Undertale has their own Undertale they passionately defend. Why they choose to shit on Undertale is anybody's guess.
+HyperCubed4 A combination of a cancerous fanbase and indignation at the idea of the game being considered game of the year material by crowds of screeching morons. Not saying that anyone who likes the game is a moron, but if you seriously think this game is GOTY material you need to start wearing a fucking helmet.
+HyperCubed4 "Story was cute yeah"
>Story literally effected its medium
Ok.
*****
And here we go!
It's a cute game. You play as a little kid who plays with monsters and, if you get the right ending, you convince a flower/goat/demon child thing not to be evil and everyone lives happily ever after. It's Pixar levels of cute.
It's not complex storytelling. If you want to argue about the theme of pacifism in regards to video game mechanics, then I would agree that pacifism in an RPG is a cool mechanic.
In regards to the story, however, it's pretty plain. I would argue that the Genocide route is a much more interesting way to experience the story, because you're going against what you're expected to do.
Not that it matters, because LISA: The Painful/Joyful have much better narratives than Undertale. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
HyperCubed4 "Pretty plain story"
>Game destroys its own fourth wall in a way that isn't comedic but instead makes you question your actions in every other RPG you've ever played where you slaughter wildlife for XP
Ok.
*****
Toriel makes it clear from the beginning that killing is bad. What's there to question?
Really happy to see someone recognise SOMA as one of the best games of 2015. It flew under the radar and exploded. I've got it out of boredom, thought it was one of those B grade games that you play through just to add it to the "done" department, but boy was i mistaken. This one goes deep literally and mentaly.
Lot of mixed reactions regarding Undertale in the comments so here's my thoughts regarding my experience. Light Undertale spoilers:
My first experience in Undertale, I had not read anything and knew nothing about the game, only that it was supposed to be worth playing. I started playing through the game and got told by a couple of the characters that I should try to show mercy, or that I could talk to some of the creatures. Sure I thought, though it was concerning that I wasn't getting any exp I figured there would be plenty of time to grind if I needed to but I killed a couple here or there that I couldn't work out how to spare (specifically Migosp) so if I ran into that guy I would attack and kill him. I got to the part of the game where Toriel blocks you off from proceeding and I'd explored the entire ruins. I didn't realise some monsters reacted to repeatedly "sparing" so I eventually tried fighting her to weaken her a bit (like a pokemon, right?) and then she might react differently. I didn't want to kill her as she had been really kind from the beginning of the game and had a parental vibe with the main character, and I already felt bad for fighting her in the first place.
Of course after taking off a little over half her health, I did a super attack that killed her in one hit, and after she died I felt like total shit. Instead of going through to the next room, I reset the game and started again. This time I didn't kill anything because I felt terrible about killing Toriel. I got to her again, worked out how to get her to yield, and moved on. I immediately met Flowey again, who ACKNOWLEDGED THE FACT THAT I HAD RESET THE GAME OUT OF GUILT. I murdered her and reset the game because I regretted it. I'm not sure why but that hit me really powerfully.
After that I was totally hooked. I did not have a hard time investing in the characters or the world, and enjoyed the "bullet hell shooter" style fight mechanics. The game is funny and charming if you let it take you in. So that's my 2c. People aren't just jumping on the bandwagon, nor is it relying on Earthbound nostalgia (since I never played Earthbound but still had a great experience with this). After finishing the game, I could not bring myself to ruin my game with a genocide route so I watched a let's play and Flowey even called me pathetic from within the other player's game. It's deconstructive, clever, funny and well written and I think for the price everyone should give it a look.
Regarding Undertale: Meta-narrative is where art goes to die. Art concerned with itself is parody art. Video games are increasingly focused on providing a meta-narrative, games that in-narrative consider themselves games , like Stanley Parable. Such games can never have as much impact as Journey, Shadow of the Colossus or Silent Hill where the in-story narrative is central . Undertale is an exception. It does it so well because the meta-narrative is part of the story, not the story itself. Undertale uses meta elements to create feelings of confusion or dread or surprise, elements that directly tie to how the in-narrative storytelling is delivered. The narrative is character driven, not driven by art-introspection.The world is video-game and the characters know it but the world only sets the rules of the narrative, not the narrative itself (Much like the .hack// series but better). Undertale is great.
doesnt beat garfield kart :/
Okay... That's creepy. I love halo and I live in Swindon! Wow.
Seriously!?
I haven't played halo but to do live in Swindon
+Activate Halo I have played halo and i dont live in swindon
My bestest xbox fwiend lives there though
_We don't serve ye'rr kind 'err!_
he did put halo as his blandest game of the year, not best haha
+Blood-Midget I haven't played Swindon but to do live in halo
People seem determined to HATE anything with a big fanbase. Do you guys just play games no one talks about?
+TheBUCfifty I exclusively play an untranslated serbian indie rpg maker game that critiques conservative values and explores the pains of growing up different in a 1st world country through modern art and interpretative dance. It's called FMSUF.
But you wouldn't know anything about that.
+Mistress Bedlam That sounds like a terrific game! Where can I download it?
Cloud Green >download
>not using a dreamcast modified to play floppy disks you buy at a rustic flea market
Do you even hipster?
Mistress Bedlam Does it have a soundtrack recorded on vinyl that can only be played on a HMV Model 97b 1937 gramophone? If not, then I'm not interested.
That was one of the most fantastically detailed reviews of undertale ive ever seen
GrandeAunderA and Yahtzee should review a game together.
+Im Tabe YES
+Im Tabe Yahtzee's best on his own, don't think anybody really meshes with his style or flow.
I'm all for that btw, but what would they review or talk about?
alearnedman I think they would have a really good dynamic, can't see two of my favorites cooperating as being a bad thing.
Pajamapants Jack Not a clue, there is a reason why I'm not the one making these videos.
I'm all for the Undertale appreciation, but can we just take a moment and cherish that sweet ending. "--IN SWINDON."
LOL at the trumpets playing Song of the Volga Boatmen, and the phone dial tone was so freaking funny I lost it! LOL!
LOO The Martin O Malley joke
Lol*
Did not expect that, dayym I did not expect that.
What did he do to earn a infamous place in a ZP video?
He often references American politics in his vids. He made a great joke about the lore of Dark Souls being like the choice between a Clinton or Trump Presidency.
Absolutely nothing. For the Democrat debates he was just there. You had the feeling the only ones that would actually vote for him were three dudes in the audience and his wife.
Undertale was the best review so far.
You know Undertale was good when Yahtzee has nothing bad to say about it.
Nearly a decade later I still find myself occasionally thinking, out of nowhere, "... IN SWINDON!".
Best undertale review
but i disagree, undertale isn't just good, it's great!
+Bolek Lolek
When Yahtzee calls a game "good" it means something in the vicinity of "The Second Coming of Christ".
+Xqwzts
See: Bioshock,
Portal,
etc.
Is that Mr.Babadook as your icon? Just curious.
biosector07 Haha yeah it is. That dude is sick
*"THE CONTROLLER WAS NEVER REAL"*
Yup, that's basically Undertale in a nutshell.
Bloodborne isn't my game of the year, and yet it is the one I ended up playing the most. I just can't get enough of the combat.
What is your GOTY then? :)
erybotond
Gonna go with Undertale, pretty much for the same reasons as Yahtzee. Sure, Witcher 3 probably deserves all the credit it gets, buuuut I have a thing for meta-narratives, toying with expectations, having fun with the game's mechanics and design and not being afraid of experimenting with them, and some good ol' deconstruction. Undertale does game narrative rather splendidly.
Sure, the game isn't all that subtle, it doesn't offer major moral dilemmas nor philosophies that challenge your thinking, its overall morality is very black and white, and gameplay mechanics pretty simplistic, but what it does with the game design is something I cannot ignore.
Still, it's very much a niche game, so seeing it sell over half a million copies is something I didn't expect to see. Kinda like what happened with Dark Souls 1. But honestly, I'm happy it has gotten so much attention.
+erybotond Porn.
+midlifecrisi hates Google + 'scuse me? :0
Thank fucking God, I'm not the only one who was dissapointing with "The Beginner's Guide". Thowing that arround with the same price tag of The Stanley Parable, and yet having NO replayability, even less story, and literally nothing to do but run forward for an hour and a half (when at least The Stanley Parable had a ton of jokes and babies burning to death somewhere in the middle) is just pathetic and felt like a scam.
But at least I got my refund, jokes on the dev.
I think The Beginner's Guide is one of those games that's only going to hit home if you can relate to it. My life has been pretty good as lives go, so I doubt that kind of introspective game would really be my kind of thing.
+BadassFreeman Damn, there's not liking a game, but Jesus. The game has gained plenty of praise (including from Jim Sterling, whom I trust), ad you got your refund, so there's no need to slam it.
Also, it should be noted that only games Yahtzee has reviewed on Zero Punctuation are viable for the list, so whether the game didn't make the list because of that or because he wouldn't have liked it anyways is something we'll never know.
+BadassFreeman Same, I was so disappointed in that game while expecting high because of some reviews. To me it was like the developer telling his personal story/issue with another individual and thinking please forgive me for ripping you off and adding some shit to your creation.
Same joke that you played on the devs were done by me.
+jd johnson Jim actually disliked.it
Mostafa Shahin Except it was in his Game of the Year awards.
Unless I'm mistaken.
I like how Yahtzee has kind of Terra-formed this channel to his own needs.
"Undertale is good" its community, however...
+Cole Train
Pretty sure every community has their ups and downs. The talented artists make some rather amazing art, the promising people with talents get influenced by it and set out to make something great in the future, the casual fans are the silent majority as always... the rabid fans tear down anyone that does anything that doesn't please them while shouting so loudly that they overshadow the rest of the community and then there are the ones with obsessions that have gone too far...
And this stands for the sub-categories as well.
The community is a classic example of "good in small doses" you look at a few pieces of fan art, watch a video or two and it's nice, but get deeper, and it becomes over whelming quickly
"HOW DARE YOU KILL THESE PIXELATED CHARACTERS PURELY BECAUSE I INDIVIDUALLY BELIEVE THEY ARE REAL PEOPLE"
Ben Little
That's pretty much every community in a nutshell. Yes, even the Sonic fandom has some rather good fan-creations, like a huge amount of pretty good remixes of the songs, and some artwork. But that part of the fandom is kinda overshadowed by the... other things.
I think this is called the Portal Dilemma, as it started the good game with crap community pattern.
I expect some crappy comments like "WAAAAAH UNDERTALE SHOULDN'T BE #1 CAUSE IS OVERRATED! FALLOUT 4 > ALL" go on haters
+RafaelDB64 Oh there are! I've been refreshing the comments for the past 15 minutes and watching the salt flow.
+RafaelDB64 I don't like undertale or fallout, so what now?
+JayPG Well, what do you like?
zekromsucks Mass effect, Halo CE through halo reach, forza, last of us, Sly cooper series, I could go on but I don't really care to
+JayPG
There's also Witcher 3, Elite: Dangerous or Bloodborne. Pick your poison.
That Undertale review at the beginning was so good I just wanna watch it over and over. It's so lovely how it contradicts every Zero Punctuation review thus far by not bashing the game with a single drop of dark humor. The dissonance of it is hilarious and is just the best.
Star Wars Battlefront 2 had more wookies in it than the new battlefield game. And that's not hard because the new battlefield game has no wookies what so ever.
Fuck wookies, where are the gungangs!?
+Bolek Lolek had those in the originals as well but at the end of the day I fucking called it cus I'm smart
+Bolek Lolek They could have made Battlefront GOTY.
That undertale review tho :D
3:42 >implying fallout 4 had good graphics
Just saw a campaign ad called "The Life of Bryan," that used the same ragtime music as the "Top 5" in this video. Instantly improved my mood.
*THERE YOU CAN STOP ASKING HIM TO REVIEW UNDERTALE*
Honestly the only thing I was disappointed in was that Splatoon wasn't on the list.
+pokemonmanic3595
He actually did a full written review of it a while ago.
In which he stopped two paragraphs in and told you to go buy it.
Camkitsune Oh I know, but this is for all those ninnies who kept asking on older videos
+pokemonmanic3595 Squid-kid dress-em-up is really good, yeah. I would've replace Elite with it.
cyanmanta I didn't think SOMA would've made it on either.
+PSIworld13 SOMA or Undertale? I don't know about SOMA but if you're talking about Undertale you replied to the wrong person
Is it called "Zero Punctuation" because he usually speaks quite quickly?
I dunno
yes.
+Valter Yeah, thats the idea behind it, although I dont really think that he speaks quickly... that may be because over the years I got used to it
how about you just pause
+Grey Summers He was just asking a question.
You know Undertale is great when TotalBiscuit, Yahtzee Crosaw, and Jim Fucking Sterling, Son say its a good game.
love watching these videos. both humor and knowledge, all at the same time.
Yahtzee's review of Undertale becomes even more awesome at 2x speed.
Yes, I am incredibly bored right now to the point where I'm watching old Zero Punctuation videos while messing with the speed setting.
undertale MIGHT be a good game, but i refuse to play it at all because of its brony level fanbase
+lavafoxx So far I've seen more people bashing the UNDERTALE fanbase than the actual fans. Really ironic actually.
+lavafoxx You know you can play it without interacting with the fanbase, right?
If you judge a subject matter based on their fanbase, you don't deserve to play it anyways.
natyx24
you most certainally can judge a product on its fanbase. there has to be something in it in order to attract such an undesirable element.
i've barely seen any Undertale OCs yet but that's probably because i haven't paid a visit to DeviantArt in some time now.
though i did start questioning humanity when i found Frisk/Sans porn when i simply looked up "undertale comics"
Advice: Instead of saying something is overrated use the phrases "it wasn't my thing", "I didn't really see the appeal", "I didn't get it/like it". It means the same thing but it doesn't make you sound like a fucking asshole who's angry that other people have different opinions.
I really liked Undertale's style and narrative!
The gameplay itself i just found very tedious so i never finnished the game.
Would people please stop with Undertale?
He liked it, deal with it.
Undertale sucks
Jamie Rose oof
Undertale as #1 bestest of games???!!!!
I had to unsubscribe just to subscribe again. Ty Yahtzee.
Ok bye! No one will miss you!
+awesome shit I think you misunderstood him.
+bafrali5561 I know I did it on purpose. Because I'm a prick.
awesome shit
Oh good for you.
I don't really agree.
Spoiler; the reattachment surgery went badly
I just love the Song of the Volga Boatmen. (And a shout-out to Ilya Repin, too. (Who will not be judged by the cover.)
Honestly, Hatred should have been on the top 5 bland games list.
+Tovi Boi Nah, it was pretty bad.
+Tovi Boi On gameplay alone, I agree, but the negative hype the devs relied on to actually get publicity likely influenced Yahtzee's and many others opinion that it is a worst contender.
+Tovi Boi Hatred is Postal 1 HD. What do you expect!?
Well I don't think Hatred is a bad or good game, I feel like it's just bland and doesn't do anything new.
My own review of Undertale:
Too short, pls i need more of that drug
+MeGA HeadShoot If Toby sold a DLC pack that added 7 more hours to the game, it would be the best selling DLC of all time.
Jasper Daugaard Agree xD
+MeGA HeadShoot It is short but it has replay value
+MeGA HeadShoot well the. Play the genocide, neutral, or pacifist ending for more undertale drugs.
I wasn't very interested in playing Witcher 3, but everyone was saying that it was amazing, so I bought it. After playing about 6 hours, I decided that It was an alright game but I can't say it impressed me at all. I was actually disappointed because it didn't live up to the hype. From what I saw, the main story is a somewhat generic person hunt, and the side quests were spread out enough that it makes the game more frustrating and tedious than fun. Either that or there aren't many side quests at all in each area and the leveling system is fucked up pretty badly. In general, a bit of a letdown for me. That being said, I doubt I will ever play Undertale.
***** maybe but I don't see how that can make a game "game of the year"
***** just because people put a lot of work into it doesn't make it good and the gameplay is atrocious. The story that I saw wasn't very impressive at all, I enjoyed Fallout 4's story much more than Witcher 3's and all the content in the world can't save a boring game with a messy user interface, shitty leveling system, and gameplay which would need a major overhaul just to be mediocre.
***** doesn't make my points any less valid
***** whether a story is good or not is opinion. Terrible gameplay isn't opinion.Unless you like having a dodge key combo and a dodge roll key combo that are not even close to each other and don't get you out of the way of danger anyways, a block key that doesn't do shit, a leveling system that practically requires you to hunt down every side quest of your level just to level up, a character who seems to never know when to unsheathe his sword and not giving you the ability to draw it yourself, etc. I can keep on going with the bad design but I won't
***** If you can unsheathe and sheathe your sword at any time, then they certainly didn't show you how in the tutorial, where you would show players how to do things like that. The block key doesn't work against anything and all the dodge roll keys ever did was send me flying into another enemy. The only thing I found that actually worked was mashing the attack button and occasionally and clumsily using spells because they made that frustratingly easy to fuck up as well. I don't know how you were capable of leveling up so fast because I was only able to get to level 3 with all the quests in the area being level 5 or higher. Gameplay is not subjective when it is designed as clumsily like this one was. There is just too much cluttering the combat and it is too easy to do something you didn't want to do. If it was something like Skyrim, I could have tolerated it, but they just threw way too much into it. There is making something challenging, and then there is making something frustrating and this falls more on the frustrating end.
Undertale is basically "Rocko's Modern Life: The Game" as interpreted by Tim Burton. The Bonetrousle theme even sounds like mid-80s Elfman-era Oingo Boingo (which adds to that Burtonesque vibe). Oh, and it has a lot of the same character archetypes (Alphys is totally Filbert).
Lol the top 5 blandest games is honestly just a chance to put 5 more games on the worst list.
But THAT'S the whole reason of the bland list.
It's not bad, but it's not good either. It's in the grey area between Bad and Good.
It never did stuff that was bad, but nothing good either.
A much nicer way of putting it is Top 5 Neutral Games of 2015.
Isn't that the majority of game industry currently; games that don't do anything? On the flip side I feel with COD finally declining, as well as the success of CDPR, Kojima getting his own studio, as well as the work from ID and From Software. Not to mention how many publishers are starting to notice their games aren't doing as well as the fore mentioned. It would seem the industry is starting to resort back to its innovation era; though this is merely an assumption..
As big of a Halo fan as I am, I totally agree with the #1 most bland entry. :(
The little I've read about undertale just said "pretentious & quirky for the sake of quirkiness, focus on a bland story in a dull world".
I know nobody who has any opinion on the game.
Why the hype?
+Risakisa What you have heard is opinions from people that have not played the game. Explaining the hype over it would ruin the ENTIRE experience for you. If you have 10$/£, give it a shot, you might enjoy yourself.
Jasper Daugaard No, the review gave it a 10/10, and yet the descriptions don't tempt me to even torrent the game.
Risakisa Take the Word of a complete stranger and at least torrent it. I really won't tell you to pay Money for it if you're this far on edge on the game, but I urge you to just try it, and not let other people's opinions affect your own.
+Risakisa You should just play it and forms your own opinion on it. It's received critical appraise, so whether you like it or not doesn't come down to whether it's a "bad game" but whether or not it aligns with your preferences.
Asking for people to justify the hype is going to get you exactly what you don't want in order to fully enjoy it; spoilers, overhype, etc.
Kylr Avery I just want some explanation. I've not seen anyone give any solid reason for why it's a good game, and that's just weird.
During the "Worst Games" intros, all I could think about was...
"I'm a bad troll... a very bad troll..."
(One internet for anyone who gets that reference without the use of Google.)
Great video as always, Yahtzee. Love your content. Keep up the good work.
+LuxUmbra37 A Troll in Central Park reference. I know thanks to the Nostalgia Critic.
My favorite games in no particular order
1. halo 5 for being the best MP game of this year for me
2. Bloodborne for being the most atmospheric game of this year for me
3. Metal Gear 5 for being the best stealth game I've played in years
4. Fallout 4 for having the most amount of player freedom
5. The Witcher 3 for just being fun in general
These are just my opinions.
Your opinions suck ass except for bb
Fallout 4 doesn't have as much player freedom as New Vegas due to essential NPCs. If it was like new vegas, the entirety of the Minutemen would be wiped out by ME
I mean fallout 4 for having the most player freedom that year is a fine statement. Overall though I think the games industry is realising how hard it is to try and make truly open world games every single year so they just give you illusions of it.
That game had so much pointless empty space that honestly just made me feel bored and not thrilled by the prospect of exciting things around the corner.
What's that piece of music that plays for yahtzee's worst games? I've heard it somewhere before
The Song of the Volga Boatmen
Thank you for always making me laugh Yahtzee. There is no one that I relate to better! Misanthropes unite!
The song that he plays for the Most Worst is "Song of the Volga Boatmen". It's a Russian piece about the tedium of pulling a boat to shore.
Yahtzee's pretty much describing his job with that one song.
Whenever I watch this video I’m reminded that The Order 1886 exists
I only know it exists because of this series
I'm honestly really surprised fallout 4 didn't win the "bland" category
Probably so swarms of fanboys didn't do horrible unspeakable things to him.
Well Fallout 4 did try new things, if they were good or not its yours to decide but I think it would be really unfair to claim that Fallout 4 didn't try to add to the formula.
it wasn't bland, it moved the franchise, just not necessarily in the right direction...
+Bolek Lolek Like 5 steps backwards.
Undertale certainly deserved its spot on this list. It's a great, well-designed game with fun characters and a good story. When I first played it, I enjoyed it immensely.
But after a few months seeing it canvased across every piece of available territory on the internet, I'm sad to say I've become a bit embittered towards it. As much as I loved the game itself, I can't help but cringe every time I see fan art of it, and I can never get on board with the incessant praise it receives as soon as it's brought up anywhere, immediately derailing any existing conversation and abandoning the burning remains in favour of showering the game with accolades. It's a good game, a great one, one of the best I've played in fact, but I am so tired of it.
+Mono Chrome This is why I don't associate with any fandoms and just ignore them completely, they just ruin shit. On another note, its kinda' hypocritical to say this when your profile picture being a fan art of MLP. A piece of media with a fandom that makes Undertales' look like a group of enlightened scholars.
+AwesomeGamerOfMystery You make a valid point. A fair part of the MLP fandom is really, really annoying. To be fair, though, I haven't actually watched the show for a solid year. I just can't bring myself to change my profile picture because it was drawn for me by a friend as a birthday present.
+AwesomeGamerOfMystery Maybe they feel that way about bronies too, but they didn't mention it because it has nothing to do with this video. Though as a long time pegasister myself, gotta say I think we're slowing down a lot. Oh sure we're still huge, but we're not THE THING anymore. Undertale on the other hand is just getting started.
Good review, nice concise per item. Appreciate it.
Yahtzee, I agree with you on Halo 5. I beat the first mission and played a few hours of the multiplayer before never touching it again. It was so fucking boring. Nothing interesting happened at all. And removing couch co-op ruined the game for me.
have you played cod bo3?
What do you think about it?
Jagannath Barman It's a CoD game. Campaign is worthless and boring, multiplayer consists of me using one gun for everything, and they somehow managed to make Zombies boring, even though that last part may just be me not having anyone to play it with most of the time.
+stride99 Absolutely.Anyway it's nice to meet someone who also is a fan of YMS😂
enlightened individual, you have described this spungargleweewee with just such beatifull words.
The reason i can't stand UnderTale, is because of those people that say "The choices actually matter, not like 90% of games." or "The games story is actually good, unlike every thing else lately." It's like they can't find words to describe why they think it's so good, so instead they just make everything else out to be shit that isn't UnderTale.
Reminds me too much of those "I played back in Vanilla back when the game was good, and hard!" people from World of Warcraft, all they do is bum people out for trying to find enjoyment in new stuff even though apparently unplayable trash that isn't even worth thinking about.
Because literally EVERYTHING people love about it is a spoiler.
+Methose Xemas Who the fuck cares? At this point the entire game has been spoiled, considering it is only good if you have never heard of it. Even people saying "It's good just trust me the ending is awesome, but do a pacifist run that's the best." that is technically a spoiler. It's like saying "Funny joke ahead" and the joke relies on you not seeing it coming.
Also, the internet is filled with people that spoil shit intentionally or not.
Just tell me why it is so perfect and deserves to belittle every game i like and make me feel like a shithead for liking games that aren't it.
+Jordan Ricketts I won't be able to tell you why it's so perfect that it belittles every game you like and make you feel like a shithead, but I WILL tell you that it's really good because it uses interesting characters, somewhat unexplored mechanics, and great humor. It pulls everything off so well that many people can't help but love it. The only thing I can think of that will ruin the experience is going in with preconceptions about 'how lame pixel graphics are', stuff like that.
If you really want spoilers though, i'll spill everything.
+Jordan Ricketts One reason I like it that isn't really a spoiler (or maybe it is) is that the game is aware when you load an old save, or if you reset a save file after doing something you regret or feel ruined your game. The boss knows that you loaded a save after it killed you and might become depressed about the fact that you will keep doing so until you eventually win, and maybe that sends him towards nihilism since no matter how strong he is with enough tries you will beat him. That kind of thing. It's not, say, making you feel like a puppet master or pointing out that you're "playing a game", but rather the fact that if your character has a super power it would be saving and loading.
Choices have consequence which shapes every part of the game that follows in a meaningful way, and every subsequent event will be altered by any decisions giving the game a lot of replay value (and I'm not just talking about the polar opposite good/bad, there are many forks along the road in a neutral playthrough which make big adjustments to the way characters treat you etc). A lot of thought and care went into sculpting a personal experience for every person who goes into the game, and for the people who want to play it many times to chase every difference and every alternate route. I'm not going to say "unlike everything else lately", but I think the game is refreshing and it's not like $10 and 6 hours is going to end your life. I think it's an experience worth having for this investment..
How to review Undertale without spoiling the story.
Yahtzee: "Undertale is a good game."
Good job
Best review for Undertale ever. Also, I guess the best way to sort of sell the game to someone is to clue them in on the fact that the game saves details without you knowing and will call you out on your behavior.