You know I'm NEVER a fan of being overly negative about stuff. Personally I find the consistent hate boners you see on TH-cam especially very annoying. But still, it sucks being so let down by a rework for a character you have really high hopes for. At least Sakura is pretty good.
I just laughed quite a lot just because while I was watching your video I remembered my first feelings from lawbro rework I was saying the same thing E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.
The only good thing neutral shove is good for is using its hyperarmor to trade with shit But thats it Literally Its only good for stopping someone from going ham on you
@@Sanguiris +some chainmail-longsword dude/girl gets the hyper armor and charge impact of an enraged bull on their shoulder and a weeb with the japanese equivalent of a greatsword has souls-level I-frames on dodge heavies. Oh and I guess that three layers of solid Sugoki fat or some jumping shield viking's furs are more durable than steel plates. Yes. Thanks Ubisoft.
Dealer of Fate giving lawbringer hyper armor isn’t the solution to the problem. Yes, it would be an improvement, but it is still bad. With hyper armor, he would gain the ability to trade, and that’s it. What Lawbringer, the most “versatile” character, needs is mix-ups. More ways to get into the unblockable, soft feints, ways to make Long Arm useful. Maybe an unblockabale heavy soft feint into long arm. While yes, hyper armor would be good and make sense, it isn’t the one thing he needs.
@@cartershaw1359 I completely agree. Hyper armor salt makes for better memes though... I would really love to see some heavy-shove mixups, maybe a new move or two (i.e. a new zone or revised shove) and that god damn improvenent on the long arm. That halberd just looks like it's made for complex moves. I would, however, also like hyper armor of some kind though. Like, so to say, on the shove or on lights which look like they have better defensive posture. My point is that Lawbringer's whole concept seems somehow flawed, almost hollow. He lacks the fluidity most other heroes exhibit with their combos (i.e. Kensei, Conqueror, new Valkyrie, even new Warden) while simultaneously missing in actual punching power (because landing his damaging moves scales from very difficult to nearly impossible) and these very inferiorities rob him of an intimidation aspect that could be on par with Highlander's. It is sad seeing this giant fortified mountain of muscle, steel, style and pure LAW, failing to be as awe-inspiring as they deserve.
@@phantom0phoenix994 but like dude what good is it on his bash really? It's not like the enemy is gonna throw out or even have enough time to throw out an attack if the heavy connects. Edit: unlike shinobi's you have a reaction chance to get a light or something in
my dude, he does have some amour... his bash gets you out of ANY combo it starts so early, not even softfeint gb catches you and you get 15 + unblockable pressure for free
I feel like most of Hitokiri's kit was meant for Lawbro and Ubi was just like "nah fam, we make more money making new stuff rather than fixing the old stuff"
@Sarincrow Doesn't make a lot of sense to have the dlc characters beginner friendly considering not many people will buy dlc right off the bat and they're pretty expensive.
@@Nadetheone shove was useless and anoying and light parry is now stronger and wow big heavy parry nerf 5 DMG its not like another characters can dream about 40 dmg heavy parry punish
"You see warden....ubisoft is scared of the might of the law, that is why they keep us down. Not because we suck, but because if we were allowed to fight at our full potential...who would stand against us but the developers themselves." --a bittersweet lawbringer
So TLDR He is a large, heavy, slow character without any of the benefits for using a slow and heavy character.... what was the point of the rework again? Did we learned nothing from Brawl Gannondorf?
Josef Ferreira Exactly, as in the very last sentence. LB’s ass right now. The only reason he’s doing “better” is because he is SLIGHTLY better, but mostly due to the fact that no one knows how to fight him. Give it a week...
Berserker: Leather Armored, 5.5ft Boiyo, Hyper Armour of Everything Lawbringer: Literal Walking Tank, Like 7f Boiyo, Literally Zero Hyper Armour. Ubisoft, u been drinking my guy?
My thought process is that they must have tested lawbringer with hyperarmor, and concluded for some reason that it was to strong, otherwise i have no clue why they would'nt give him such a tool
Aha... Ha..... Ha.......... Ha. That would imply that Raider's was tested as well.. Would've immediately shown off how *DISGUSTINGLY OVERPOWERED* hit new kit is.
I only started playing the game a couple of months ago and went from raider to lawbro, lb was so easy to play at level 10 but then people started parry spamming and dodge spamming. Rip
Raider: Hyper armour, New move, Hyper armour, damage, new chains, new soft feints Lawbringer: new chains, lost a move, damage. Consistent rework content.
Ubi: “We want to make this character more viable without removing their identity... *So we’re removing shove on block, shove after heavy and pressure after shove and we’re making him a light spammer* “
Alex Law because that's gonna actually make him fun. No what they did to Shugoki actually makes him fun this is basically what happened season 6 and 7 after season 5 gave us hope again. They need an operation health and some new blood. I love Roman but him or the fight team or someone is just not realizing what players want when it comes to how these heroes get addressed. At least not consistently. And I understand it takes a lot of effort to truly rework a hero but some of these are literally turning special move effects on or off.
@@tonym.8069 im sorry, can we just go back on how you thought shugoki is fun now? "Gonna heavy, nope another hug" over and over. He's boring to play and boring to fight.
@@diegodelariva2036 Imma say this rightmost from a future perspective. WERE THE OPENER THOUGH!!!! Literally just a light THAT LEADS INTO A UN-GUARANTEED HEAVY!!! Great job at being a degenerate.
LB needs one softfeint, ONE. Either heavy into (a faster) longarm, into gb, or into (a faster) shove ONE change that could change A LOT And yes hyperarmor is necessary on his unblockables
"Lawbringer is equipped with one of the most versitile weapons ever created. The Polearm." Still has like 10 total moves half of which are after a parry.
Getting stunned by Raider is like finally managing to escape a dark cave after you've been trapped in there for years and you see sunlight for the first time
Getting stunned by raider is like getting hit in the head with a rock, then another rock, then another.....and another...eventual you go into a coma, and hopefully never wake up.
Black Prior has amazing character design. Warden's 3 variable timings on his shoulderbash, Conqueror's variable timings on a shieldbash which also creates a decent mindgame. And in terms of looks, the knights probably have the best design out of all. Especially Lawbringer, he looks the best imo
@@roasty- Black Prior is simple, but effective and fun to play, so despite his visual design being too emo, I'll concede to that. As for Warden and Conq though, they're incredibly boring to play and can only use a single move as their offence, with their chains being simply laughable, and Conqueror's charged unblockable heavies having too slow of a charge time to be useful. Warden only ever uses the Shoulder bash because it's all he has, and Conqueror has a boring, annoying, kiting-oriented offence, and ridiculously strong defence with his multiple option selects
@@roasty- sorry but what is amazing in bashes over bashes and unreadable unreactable 50/50s or wardens 25/25/25/25 again? knights are trash from this perspective
Character wearing full plate armour with one of the topheaviest weapons. A massive swing gets interrupted whenever someone remotely breathes in your direction.
To think that a half naked man has more endurance during attacks than a walking armored law enforcement tank itself... Just makes wonder what goes through the devs' minds...
I couldn't agree more, about the lawbringer rework. I understand why new characters are so strong and the reworks usually aren't that good compared to the new guys, but the raider got the god treatment, hyper armor, unblockables without a chain that can be soft feinted into a blinding attack that chains into said unblockables, still has dodge GB and an unblockable running charge that murders your stamina, which you won't get back against a raider, so he has massive OOS pressure. Meanwhile, lawbringer, if his impale is blocked, is automatically OOS and will die to anyone with OOS pressure. On that topic, lawbringer still has no OOS pressure because of his 700ms neutral shove and his T-rex arms. Lawbringer is improved, but raider rework proves they could've given him more, and anyone that says "lawbringer isn't a hyper armor character, that isn't his style" Yea, so what constitutes a hyper armor character at this point, if lawbringer style isn't hyper armor, why does sakura or raider get it? They both have on call onblockables, hyper armor, and soft feints. Lawbringer has none of those. "OOOHHH but his parry punishessss.." yea, raider and sakura parry punishes are god tier too. Go ahead, explain why lawbringer isn't allowed hyper armor. The feint game for lawbringer is a massive improvement to be sure, but it isn't a lawbringer buff, everyone got the feint game buff thanks to the new guard switch speed among static guard characters. I could rant even more and more, his tracking still sucks, people are still backwalking his unblockable chain finisher despite them saying he would have more momentum (I was hoping for the momentum every one else has with unblockables, shugoki, raider, sakura, berserker, shaman, warden, JJ, highlander, ETC, they all have good tracking and good range. Also, lawbringer dodge and I frames are still absolute trash, in order to dodge any attack your timing has to be godly compared to characters with longer dodges, which would be fine, IF HE HAD HYPER ARMOR TO MAKE UP FOR IT
But...! But..! His play style is n̶o̶t̶ ̶h̶y̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶r̶m̶o̶r̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶o̶f̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶i̶n̶t̶s̶! being restricted to a play style that plenty of other characters excel at while also having their own offensive tools.
@@marcom667 Exactly, a 900ms unblockable that can be back dodged by every character OR just light attacked out as soon as you see red >_>..... I've seen people say hyper armor wouldn't be enough to help, but they totally forget that hitokiri, shugoki, heck even somewhat berserker, are only good because of their hyper armor in certain situations. try going into a custom match with revenge active to see how hyper armor on LB feels, it is a totally different type of combat when you aren't being light jabbed out of every attack by people or getting dodge attack punished for every attack,
Tbh Lawbringer would be way better with these 3 things... Better Stamina, hyper armor and chained 2nd heavy, and the most important one is that to make Longarm fientable early and late like Warden bash, with that making him better straight up!
"Their armor has no equal, its construction a secret of their order." - Lawbringer trailer >still no hyper armor >mfw Also I think giving him a working pair of lungs would be nice too, I hate throwing 2 lights that are blocked and that results in him running out of breath.
I stick with ai matches because I get WAAAAAY too angry in pvp in this game. It's just this game too. Dead by Daylight I get pissed at because a: survivors are the most toxic pieces of shit in the world, and b: the game barely functions properly on a fundamental level
why does the state of Lawbringer remind me of Ganon in smash? you have basically no hit that has a "natural combo" with both Ganon and Lawbringher. AND WHY DO I KEEP MAINING THE THICCEST BOIS?
Because Parry. I never understood the idea that Parry punishes are any character identity.....because only his light Parry punish is the deadly one, great...good...now I only have to Parry a light attack, which in most cases is more often than not by accident, or a hard read. And that's not including that my opponent isn't a feint master. What's defensive about lawbringer now? His ability to take the most cracks to the skull before going into that coma he'll never wake up from? Nah it's okay...I'll shove them, that'll show those fool to fear the law, ill shove them with my very totally reachable shove that I hit like 2 people with in an entire dominion match if they aren't paying attention to me. Imagine if perfect blocking in smash was your identity....you would be the Dan of smash bros, that's what you'd be. And that's kinda what lawbringer is. Just because something has potential means nothing. My dog has the potential to fight off a criminal robbing my house, but more often than not his fat ass is gonna run away, or stand around and do nothing. Just like lawbringer still.
Callum Jennings agreed. I hope they address them soon though cause all this is doing is making the team look further incompetent at a core part of the game. If they're so desperate to sell something they should sell a content pack for older heroes so they get their season pass payout nonsense for next year and do an actual operation health. Tackle the last of the last issues with the game so everyone can enjoy it with the heroes they main.
Characters don’t need hyper armor to be good and hyper armor detracts from the point of him which is counterattacking and being versatile. He does still need changes (I would love a soft feint into long arm) but just because he has a lot of armor does not mean he should be just another trading machine. You gotta abuse those parries more
I mean yeah, thats the entire focus of his character...but do you know how frustrating it is to finally get to the finisher on his chain in literally ANY MODE only to have one of the MANY people on the field...friend or foe, light you out of your big boy attack? I don't see why they bother giving it to raider on the basis that people are hitting him out of his attacks and then not giving it to lawbringer for the same reason. Hell I'd be cool if they only gave it to the side finishers since they do less damage than the top one....but man...tying to abuse parries forever is mind numbing. It's like trying to play smash bros and trying to fight completely with perfect blocks. And yeah you can say make a read, but why does his entire character have to be making a read, even the one saving grace in the form of that stupid light after shove is still tied to a shove that's not to hard to dodge let me tell you. In summary yes, when playing lawbringer you have to abuse his ridiculous Parry punishes, but that's also the reason he's weak, kinda like another character that has to make stupid reads to deal damage, also known as ganon from smash.
jacob rivera You don’t even have to abuse parries though. His pressure options are honestly incredible after playing him. If I make one or two parries a fight it’s game changing. Shug and Hitokiri’s hyper armor unblockables are no joke and provide a ton of pressure. LB does not need that, especially considering how fast his are comparatively. Bricky (at least in these clips) is ranting about the character without properly playing the character. He is not patient, he isn’t reading his opponent. If you want mindless offense LB is not the character for you. He has everything he needs but you gotta play smart.
If anything, his complaints seem more about Raider’s stunning tap than anything. If you can’t react to those you’re getting dicked no matter who you are.
Ubisoft : yo we should make some characters attacks uninterruptible Lawbringer: cool that's a nice mechanic for me to have Ubisoft : Give it to sugoki Lawbringer: okay that makes sense since he is a large heavy, but can I have some Ubisoft: and raider and worlord Laawbringer: okay they are still larger charecters so it makes sense for them to have it but it is wierd you gave it to them before me. Ubisoft: and berserker Lawbringer: okay you gave it to an assasin charecter before me for some reason. Can I please have some of it now. Ubisoft: Oh, Lawbringer you're still here Lawbringer: OKAY FUCK YOU TOO
Dear fellow Warden Mains, If you see a friendly Lawbringer please make sure you defend them to stop them from going through a pain that no one should experience. From, A Crusader
I really hope Ubisoft watches this and takes Lawbringer back to the drawing board. Seriously he's the most decked out hero in full armor. And he has absolutely no hyper armor. Good logic no question about it.
I do agree whit ya lad. A dude whit FULL Chainmail armor is sure to be having constant resistance to a lot of things. And look at Sakura,Hyper Armor on I don't know a normal human whit fucking leather armour. And a full Chainmail armour can't resist a slight hit.
Brick, he's never going to get an opener. He's always going to be a turtle. That's his playstyle. That's what you signed up for but you didn't realize. He's a counter attacker. Never going to be anything else, it's the intended design of the hero
Isaac Vincent But you seem to forget that Black Prior has an opener and he’s a counter attacker, Warlord has one as well. Counter attacker doesn’t mean turtle, it just means you can get punished for being reckless. Your argument is flawed on a fundamental level.
@@delghatto7315 I don't mean what it says on the hey select screen. That's unreliable to go by in almost all cases. But Lawbringer was built this way intentionally. It doesn't matter what it says on the hero select screen
dont you think guys that the unblockable side heavy should be undodgeable ? i think it would be a great addition and make law very versitile. Also it kinda makes sense with that huge weapon he has
Look to what they did to my boy... As someone who played lb from release i am disappointed, my friend who played kensei got such a good rework, then another friend got a warden rework. And here i am with this garbage. Dont get me wrong he is better but... Really... No new mix-ups, openers, soft feints... Sure we got hyper-armor on some heavies, come on ubi. Why u do dis
@@nedgleed7880 ..... ok guys.. Her side lights get parried often. Her first light is 400, but all others are slower (forget the speed), which leads to them getting parried. Her leg sweep gets dodged so much, no one uses it. Her Shield Bash is ok, but only leads to a guaranteed light and that's literally it. She has next to NO mix up capability. Zone is shit and easy to parry. The only good thing about her is the superior dodge in to bleed and superior lights.
it is not the problem that lawbringer is not getting hyper armor, its the problem that EVERYONE else is getting hyper armor because of im pretty sure that raider would survive without hyper armor when in a game
As a LB that never used to do shove on block a lot I honestly don't miss it, and when it comes to the stunning tap: Block top and react to the heavies that come through.
This rant is fine. It's not a rant of anger, but of passion. You see so much potential that you just have to let everyone know, and i feel your pain, even though I don't play for honour.
Wierd that Bricky calls Lawbringer shit yet this rework literally made him the best character in the game. His points would be true if this game wasn't defense-oriented.
I like the changes, definitely a step in the right direction. Sure it could use more, but I'd prefer them taking small steps like this than suddenly overbuffing them
Lawbringer has it even rougher in 4v4 after losing his impaling charge, now he is just a bad 1vx'er that gets his unblockable hyper armor move on parry
My only gripe with the lawbringer rework is that the 500ms shove is now a generic bash as opposed to a tool for mix ups. Don't get me wrong he needed some shove buffs to counteract the removal of shove on block, but confirmed lights just take away any reason to use the mix ups that lb already had, similar to the valk rework in a way, ubi took away something that was annoying to deal with (shove on block from lb and the weird light bash sweep heavy bash sweep pseudo-infinite from valk) and gave them the equivalent to a warlord headbutt, a simple, one dimensional bash that confirms damage. I think it strips the character of the fun things you could do with pre rework lb, like having constant mix ups with shoves to disorientate and force a reaction out of the opponent with the gb/heavy/light mix-up.I would've much preferred some other options out of shove rather than making a free light be the only thing viable. Like the ability to instantly go to a top unlockable heavy which you could then hard feint, or maybe have the option of an undodgeable side heavy, maybe even a faster but still reactable long arm. By giving lb more mix up options out of shove but not confirming any damage, would keep the base of lb as a defensive, fundamentals based character who wouldn't go mental with soft feints and whatnot. But still had the basic gameplay of bait and punish, through fundamental mechanics. I agree with your mention of how easily counterable his only opener is (400ms lights) Similarly to valk when they introduced 400ms lights to her, it makes the top guard too important of an option, valk will almost always top light follow up if they miss a bash, and I don't want lb to suffer the same problem and get beaten by people playing static guard characters who have enough braincells to move to top guard to counter the most viable follow up to a missed bash or a random opener in neutral. As for openers, even pre rework I never had any issues even pre rework, I'd get creative with openers, emote tech to lights gb or long arm. Heavy whiffs to lights (and now shove) as a bait and punish. Or side dodge shove to counter top lights and heavies.also the rework gives his side lights the ability to chain into heavies for someix ups with gbs. Sure nothings guaranteed but it all can work because no-one nowadays JUST turtles except like real degenerates. As for your comparison to hitokiri, I understand that the hyper armor is appealing but hitokiri has been made specifically as a character with nothing but hyper armor and mixups, and even then their a elf character so of course ubi wants to make them better than the base roster but in the end they're different characters. Lb is supposed to be a defense based character, he has 5 options out of parry (top heavy, impale, stun light, gb and zone) so it's clear that ubi wants him as a bait and punish character who can intercept attacks with quick lights and has a threat of solid damage gb punishes to counter dodging his mix ups, and a threat of great options out of parry to avoid people just light attacking him out of his heavies, he doesn't NEED super armor on anything out of dodge because he has so much pressure from parry and gb, sure it'd be nice to be able to trade and yeah he might visually have heavy armor, but gameplay-wise he doesn't need it. Ubi gave lb a terrible rework, right down there with orochi and valk, but hes still great in 4s and has solid pressure and great punishes in 1v1s. He's a solid, mid tier character who doesn't need anything else to be viable, hyper armor is a luxury with isn't just handed out because of the appearance of a character, or because the fan base around the character want it, hyper armor is given because it's essential as a part of their kit to make them viable, hitokiri would be the worst character in the game without hyper armor, she needed it to make her kit viable for use whereas lb doesn't need anything else. Bar possibly better mix ups out of shove.
You know I'm NEVER a fan of being overly negative about stuff. Personally I find the consistent hate boners you see on TH-cam especially very annoying.
But still, it sucks being so let down by a rework for a character you have really high hopes for.
At least Sakura is pretty good.
Hey Bricky, did you manage to find out what happened with your name?
I just laughed quite a lot just because while I was watching your video I remembered my first feelings from lawbro rework I was saying the same thing E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.
Local brick goes insane because Ubisoft refuses to buff coolest character. FeelsLawMan
The only good thing neutral shove is good for is using its hyperarmor to trade with shit
But thats it
Literally
Its only good for stopping someone from going ham on you
@@jcmullins462 sad mortem
if one guy should have hyper armor it should be the 6'6 full plated giant screaming Death to my enemies at the top of his lungs
inb4 some barely-clothed muscle guy with 2 axes has ten milion times more
@@Sanguiris +some chainmail-longsword dude/girl gets the hyper armor and charge impact of an enraged bull on their shoulder and a weeb with the japanese equivalent of a greatsword has souls-level I-frames on dodge heavies. Oh and I guess that three layers of solid Sugoki fat or some jumping shield viking's furs are more durable than steel plates. Yes. Thanks Ubisoft.
Dealer of Fate giving lawbringer hyper armor isn’t the solution to the problem. Yes, it would be an improvement, but it is still bad. With hyper armor, he would gain the ability to trade, and that’s it. What Lawbringer, the most “versatile” character, needs is mix-ups. More ways to get into the unblockable, soft feints, ways to make Long Arm useful. Maybe an unblockabale heavy soft feint into long arm. While yes, hyper armor would be good and make sense, it isn’t the one thing he needs.
@@cartershaw1359 I completely agree.
Hyper armor salt makes for better memes though...
I would really love to see some heavy-shove mixups, maybe a new move or two (i.e. a new zone or revised shove) and that god damn improvenent on the long arm. That halberd just looks like it's made for complex moves. I would, however, also like hyper armor of some kind though. Like, so to say, on the shove or on lights which look like they have better defensive posture.
My point is that Lawbringer's whole concept seems somehow flawed, almost hollow. He lacks the fluidity most other heroes exhibit with their combos (i.e. Kensei, Conqueror, new Valkyrie, even new Warden) while simultaneously missing in actual punching power (because landing his damaging moves scales from very difficult to nearly impossible) and these very inferiorities rob him of an intimidation aspect that could be on par with Highlander's. It is sad seeing this giant fortified mountain of muscle, steel, style and pure LAW, failing to be as awe-inspiring as they deserve.
Also Black Prior should have Hyper Armor too
So what I get from this is 100% better is an improvement but doubling a 2 to a 4 still doesn't do shit if the scale goes to 100.
yeah youve pretty much summed it up
Best way I've seen this summarized ever
@@unawarecoast3584
Well lawbro does have hyper armor but its on his bash, just like shinobi.
@@phantom0phoenix994 but like dude what good is it on his bash really? It's not like the enemy is gonna throw out or even have enough time to throw out an attack if the heavy connects.
Edit: unlike shinobi's you have a reaction chance to get a light or something in
@@isaiahriddle5720
You use it for trading and getting your lights in.
The "most versatile" character in the game has no versatility.
Fuck that hurt
Well he does have a lot of versatility with his parries tho
I mean one thing lawbringer is the best at is punishing enemies with parries
@@mistermagic7002 if you have to rely on an attack in order to attack. signs that something isn't quite right
@@dreadknight-zi1gq I didn't said he is good
I said he have good versatility when it comes to parries
@@dreadknight-zi1gq yes said it again dude
I now understand why my cousin who plays for honor almost 24/7 was so pissed yesterday.
But shouldn't you have no clue what he's talking about? Or do you play for honor but just don't bother with the news?
You gonna join him or what?
being a LB main, i must ask:
*why was i built to feel nothing but pain*
Stirght facts lawbro on ps4 is even harder to play
Its our curse
after two years of waiting i am finally considering a change of main
We all suffer till Roman decides to buff the shit ot of the Lawbro
Cause we wear the most armor
*Armor:* exists
*Lawbringer:* "Am I a joke to you?"
More like
Berserker: Hyper armour
Dude literally covered head to toe with armour and chainmail: Am I a joke to you?
my dude, he does have some amour... his bash gets you out of ANY combo it starts so early, not even softfeint gb catches you and you get 15 + unblockable pressure for free
@@newtubevector what
@@virusproofficial1086 what didnt you understand dodge + gb is a get out of jail free card
NewTubeVector what rep are you buddy?
A giant with a ton of armor - no hyper armor.
An executioner with robes - all the hyper armor.
GG Ubisoft!
They took his armor on shove.
*sadness*
He does have hyperarmor. Just not on the moves you want.
I can't see how raider is better cause I'm blind all the time while against him
You can't be blind if get used to no indicators
@Sarincrow you my friend... are talking some real shit
WHERE IS MY STAMINA?!?
LB gameplay in a nutshell
Ecspecially if they parry your impaling charge
Those were two fucking attacks
Stamina: *FUQ DIS SHEET AHM OUT*
These are the sounds of a broken Brick
Dusty plays?
Bricky be like:
"Look how they massacred my boy..."
I feel like most of Hitokiri's kit was meant for Lawbro and Ubi was just like "nah fam, we make more money making new stuff rather than fixing the old stuff"
Imagine lawdaddy being able to trip you. That would be sick. Something similar to T’s kick.
True, they are even both executioners.
@Sarincrow Doesn't make a lot of sense to have the dlc characters beginner friendly considering not many people will buy dlc right off the bat and they're pretty expensive.
They turned him from garbage into high quality garbage
Joey Le Lawbringer was an amazing character they massacred my boy
So they buffed him every way but for you he is more garbage
Sems legit
@@januszpolak254 He is right, no more show, less damage on heavy parry punishment
@@Nadetheone shove was useless and anoying and light parry is now stronger and wow big heavy parry nerf 5 DMG its not like another characters can dream about 40 dmg heavy parry punish
@@januszpolak254 40 dmg with 0 stamina after that, and shove wasnt useless
Lawbringer is legit one of the biggest characters in the game with the best armor and doesn’t fucking have hyper armor 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Gladiator is the only assassin character with an actual shield and yet he has the worst reflex guard in the game
@@kakugowaii5854 apparently that itty bitty shield glad has is for punching people not blocking 😂
@@marzialalfonzocanada888 realistically thats what the were commonly used for
@@calus_bath_water wish he'd just block with his trident to make his guard stance realistically the same as the rest of the assassins
Ubilogic
As a warden main. Rip my fellow Knight Lawbro. Deus Vult brother.
"You see warden....ubisoft is scared of the might of the law, that is why they keep us down. Not because we suck, but because if we were allowed to fight at our full potential...who would stand against us but the developers themselves." --a bittersweet lawbringer
As a non-edgy BP main, rip lawbro. You'll be missed
As a PK main i feel the pain of no openers and a easily readable kit
I am with you too my fellow warden main I feel bad for my friend who got back in for honor because of the law bringer re-work who is not mad about it.
@@MixedReadings i never said warden wasnt good (granted id play warden even if he wasn't s tier) i was just send my condolences to a fellow knight.
Big tanky boy with the stamina of the average American with the options of the average African child.
Huh. Never heard a truer way to put it. Yeah this describes the law pretty well right now.
They got one thing right about armor - you get tired fast in it. But forgot to add hyperarmor to mechanics. Gj Ubi
So TLDR He is a large, heavy, slow character without any of the benefits for using a slow and heavy character.... what was the point of the rework again?
Did we learned nothing from Brawl Gannondorf?
Josef Ferreira Exactly, as in the very last sentence. LB’s ass right now. The only reason he’s doing “better” is because he is SLIGHTLY better, but mostly due to the fact that no one knows how to fight him. Give it a week...
@@josefferreira105 Law Bringer is not good dude. Hes a bit stronger than before but honestly he hasnt changed too much
Krauser Cruz. I can answer you the question what was the rework for. They throw us a bone so we shout up about lawbringer.
@@9595Pepin Instead they made us Lawbro Mains even louder.
I don't know how the man that wears the most amount of armor in the entire game doesn't have hyper armor. Just so stupid.
But beserker does despite having little Amor, I guess you don't need Armor when you're angry
Ascenndant Maybe but a blade or axe carving through your limbs or crushing your bones is still gonna affect how effective you are in a fight.
Meris Fucking the shirtless dude has hyper armor on 40 damage heavies
he's technically better
partway through this video i forgot he was talking about lawbringer and thought he was talking about captain falcon instead
Falcon is good
He's just too fast for me
*this post was made by the Ganon gang*
Berserker: Leather Armored, 5.5ft Boiyo, Hyper Armour of Everything
Lawbringer: Literal Walking Tank, Like 7f Boiyo, Literally Zero Hyper Armour.
Ubisoft, u been drinking my guy?
*when lawbringer finds out less armor=more hyper armor*
Lawbringer: GET THIS SHIT OFF MEE!! AAAAHHHH!!!!
My thought process is that they must have tested lawbringer with hyperarmor, and concluded for some reason that it was to strong, otherwise i have no clue why they would'nt give him such a tool
Theo Win "tested", that's a good joke
Nah they were just lazy
Aha... Ha..... Ha..........
Ha.
That would imply that Raider's was tested as well.. Would've immediately shown off how *DISGUSTINGLY OVERPOWERED* hit new kit is.
*his..
Sorry I'm just dumbfounded by his unwarranted atk dmg buff across the board that even my typos want to bring attention to his fucking hits.
Theo Win no, they are lazy. “HMM REWORK IDEAS?!” “Couple new combo’s, faster attacks, hyperarmor, GG”
As a Lawbro Main I can confirm the salt levels in my blood as well Bricky.... we can only wait and hope
Having this happen almost makes me want to quit the game, cause after 3 years of shit, and we get this..... I just don't know anymore
I was a rep 25 lawbringer.......
I WAS
Now I main valk
I only started playing the game a couple of months ago and went from raider to lawbro, lb was so easy to play at level 10 but then people started parry spamming and dodge spamming. Rip
You know how long it takes them too buff PK ? LB will be the same
WhoDaresWins I play on PS4 and am almost rep 7 with lawbringer
Damn bricky hit em with a ''i am disapointed."
Raider: Hyper armour, New move, Hyper armour, damage, new chains, new soft feints
Lawbringer: new chains, lost a move, damage.
Consistent rework content.
Ubi: “We want to make this character more viable without removing their identity...
*So we’re removing shove on block, shove after heavy and pressure after shove and we’re making him a light spammer* “
Literally removing his identity in every way. GG ubi
Alex Law because that's gonna actually make him fun. No what they did to Shugoki actually makes him fun this is basically what happened season 6 and 7 after season 5 gave us hope again. They need an operation health and some new blood. I love Roman but him or the fight team or someone is just not realizing what players want when it comes to how these heroes get addressed. At least not consistently. And I understand it takes a lot of effort to truly rework a hero but some of these are literally turning special move effects on or off.
@@tonym.8069 im sorry, can we just go back on how you thought shugoki is fun now? "Gonna heavy, nope another hug" over and over. He's boring to play and boring to fight.
He's a far better hero now after his rework,I play this game like it's my job so I just want you to know that you're wrong in eveyway.
@@diegodelariva2036
Imma say this rightmost from a future perspective.
WERE THE OPENER THOUGH!!!!
Literally just a light THAT LEADS INTO A UN-GUARANTEED HEAVY!!!
Great job at being a degenerate.
LB needs one softfeint, ONE. Either heavy into (a faster) longarm, into gb, or into (a faster) shove
ONE change that could change A LOT
And yes hyperarmor is necessary on his unblockables
Dont you know by now bricc
Knights dont get good reworks
Conq?
@@hilkmeister1382 I dont count making him literally revolve around that bash. Hes only A tier because of it..shit rework
@@hilkmeister1382 He and Warden are as strong as they're boring
His only great bash is the one from neutral. The other ones are so slow, all it takes is some patience and good reads to get around them.
Warden?
"Lawbringer is equipped with one of the most versitile weapons ever created. The Polearm."
Still has like 10 total moves half of which are after a parry.
RIP Long arm of the Law
Never alive, forever dead PepeHands
What is the purpose of that move, its slow as shit, and pointless. also the rework just nerfed it, i still forget its on his kit...
@@Kounnah style points
*WHERE IS MY SUPERSUIT?*
In the wash...along with the law........-cries in interrupted heavy finishers-
God damn it I already told you Ubi! We’re talking about the great law daddy!
Underrated comment of the century.
Getting stunned by Raider is like finally managing to escape a dark cave after you've been trapped in there for years and you see sunlight for the first time
Getting stunned by raider is like getting hit in the head with a rock, then another rock, then another.....and another...eventual you go into a coma, and hopefully never wake up.
Ubisoft is incapable of creating good knight heroes from a design perspective.
That is all.
I have been looking at this coment for 15 minutes trying to find a good argumenr against it.
You are right.
Black Prior has amazing character design. Warden's 3 variable timings on his shoulderbash, Conqueror's variable timings on a shieldbash which also creates a decent mindgame. And in terms of looks, the knights probably have the best design out of all. Especially Lawbringer, he looks the best imo
@@roasty- Black Prior is simple, but effective and fun to play, so despite his visual design being too emo, I'll concede to that. As for Warden and Conq though, they're incredibly boring to play and can only use a single move as their offence, with their chains being simply laughable, and Conqueror's charged unblockable heavies having too slow of a charge time to be useful. Warden only ever uses the Shoulder bash because it's all he has, and Conqueror has a boring, annoying, kiting-oriented offence, and ridiculously strong defence with his multiple option selects
Gladiator :)
@@roasty- sorry but what is amazing in bashes over bashes and unreadable unreactable 50/50s or wardens 25/25/25/25 again? knights are trash from this perspective
Character wearing full plate armour with one of the topheaviest weapons.
A massive swing gets interrupted whenever someone remotely breathes in your direction.
To think that a half naked man has more endurance during attacks than a walking armored law enforcement tank itself...
Just makes wonder what goes through the devs' minds...
This is the voice and look of a man who has given up hope.
Stay strong, Bricky...
It's hard after 3 years of trying to stay positive about a horrible kit for an awesome looking character....
Amen.
I couldn't agree more, about the lawbringer rework. I understand why new characters are so strong and the reworks usually aren't that good compared to the new guys, but the raider got the god treatment, hyper armor, unblockables without a chain that can be soft feinted into a blinding attack that chains into said unblockables, still has dodge GB and an unblockable running charge that murders your stamina, which you won't get back against a raider, so he has massive OOS pressure.
Meanwhile, lawbringer, if his impale is blocked, is automatically OOS and will die to anyone with OOS pressure. On that topic, lawbringer still has no OOS pressure because of his 700ms neutral shove and his T-rex arms. Lawbringer is improved, but raider rework proves they could've given him more, and anyone that says "lawbringer isn't a hyper armor character, that isn't his style" Yea, so what constitutes a hyper armor character at this point, if lawbringer style isn't hyper armor, why does sakura or raider get it? They both have on call onblockables, hyper armor, and soft feints. Lawbringer has none of those. "OOOHHH but his parry punishessss.." yea, raider and sakura parry punishes are god tier too. Go ahead, explain why lawbringer isn't allowed hyper armor.
The feint game for lawbringer is a massive improvement to be sure, but it isn't a lawbringer buff, everyone got the feint game buff thanks to the new guard switch speed among static guard characters. I could rant even more and more, his tracking still sucks, people are still backwalking his unblockable chain finisher despite them saying he would have more momentum (I was hoping for the momentum every one else has with unblockables, shugoki, raider, sakura, berserker, shaman, warden, JJ, highlander, ETC, they all have good tracking and good range. Also, lawbringer dodge and I frames are still absolute trash, in order to dodge any attack your timing has to be godly compared to characters with longer dodges, which would be fine, IF HE HAD HYPER ARMOR TO MAKE UP FOR IT
Raider is perfect
But...! But..! His play style is n̶o̶t̶ ̶h̶y̶p̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶r̶m̶o̶r̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶o̶f̶t̶ ̶f̶e̶i̶n̶t̶s̶! being restricted to a play style that plenty of other characters excel at while also having their own offensive tools.
@@novasatanas9675 EXACTLY! Raider didn't deserve hyper armor, lawbringer did. If raider got it, lawbro should've too.
@@darkrage1138 lawbro at least deserves HA on unblockable heavies beacuse any hero can just light attack me
@@marcom667 Exactly, a 900ms unblockable that can be back dodged by every character OR just light attacked out as soon as you see red >_>..... I've seen people say hyper armor wouldn't be enough to help, but they totally forget that hitokiri, shugoki, heck even somewhat berserker, are only good because of their hyper armor in certain situations. try going into a custom match with revenge active to see how hyper armor on LB feels, it is a totally different type of combat when you aren't being light jabbed out of every attack by people or getting dodge attack punished for every attack,
Community:this rework sucks
Ubisoft: AcTuAlLy ItS a MaJoR hErO cHaNgE
for honor slap all the steel on LB's ass and he still got no hyper armor.
More like they slapped raiders ass and lawbringer got shafted in the choice pick of "who's gonna get the better work?"
Good job brick been here since league days keep it up
Tbh Lawbringer would be way better with these 3 things... Better Stamina, hyper armor and chained 2nd heavy, and the most important one is that to make Longarm fientable early and late like Warden bash, with that making him better straight up!
I wonder what the context of this video would be now that the raiderpocalyse is over and lawbringers rework turned out to make him horribly op.
Brick and Devs...
Dead by daylight: Im not a game developer so i don't know.
For Honour (I Agree): REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Oh boy, this video really hasn't aged well now has it...
His OOL lights still come from top. And they are 400 ms. Good job Ubi. Really good job removing OOL strats from game. NICE.
You don't spend much time on the competitive subreddit do you. This as well as raider zone should be fixed in a few days.
@@SomeRandomDude821 It doesn't matter, its the fact that since he still has no opener, lawbro will resort to unlock tech anyways
@@SomeRandomDude821 Yeah. That makes sense. I have also noticed it was in the patch notes.
This video about how lawbringer isn’t good didn’t age well
imagine the lawbringer is a skeleton from skyrim carrying all that armour
Imagine he's about as threatening as a skeleton from skyrim as well.
"Their armor has no equal, its construction a secret of their order."
- Lawbringer trailer
>still no hyper armor
>mfw
Also I think giving him a working pair of lungs would be nice too, I hate throwing 2 lights that are blocked and that results in him running out of breath.
The rework is decent on console, but I'll probably just stick with AI matches until they do something good with lawbro
I stick with ai matches because I get WAAAAAY too angry in pvp in this game. It's just this game too. Dead by Daylight I get pissed at because a: survivors are the most toxic pieces of shit in the world, and b: the game barely functions properly on a fundamental level
He’s the best character in the game lol. Just because he has no offense doesn’t mean he’s bad.
every rework has been great
every new character has been good
Lawbringer gets... a top light...
Literally naked characters = ALL THE HYPER ARMOR
Lawbringer in his heavy full plate = Guess I'll die
I swear the devs don't even know how to play their own game
The new combo should be light>light>heavy for one
Having a heavy into a heavy is great but not that useful when its slow
why does the state of Lawbringer remind me of Ganon in smash?
you have basically no hit that has a "natural combo" with both Ganon and Lawbringher.
AND WHY DO I KEEP MAINING THE THICCEST BOIS?
probably coz thicc is justice or something
Cent is basically ganon, big punish and nothing else
Ganon is good in melee and ultimate my guy
Because Parry. I never understood the idea that Parry punishes are any character identity.....because only his light Parry punish is the deadly one, great...good...now I only have to Parry a light attack, which in most cases is more often than not by accident, or a hard read. And that's not including that my opponent isn't a feint master. What's defensive about lawbringer now? His ability to take the most cracks to the skull before going into that coma he'll never wake up from? Nah it's okay...I'll shove them, that'll show those fool to fear the law, ill shove them with my very totally reachable shove that I hit like 2 people with in an entire dominion match if they aren't paying attention to me. Imagine if perfect blocking in smash was your identity....you would be the Dan of smash bros, that's what you'd be. And that's kinda what lawbringer is. Just because something has potential means nothing. My dog has the potential to fight off a criminal robbing my house, but more often than not his fat ass is gonna run away, or stand around and do nothing. Just like lawbringer still.
@@Lightcorvet Alright he is good in ultimate but DID YOU SAY MELEE? HE'S LITERALLY E TIER
Devs: so how much armor do you want?
Lawbringer: Y E S
I agree, Lawbringer should definitely have hyper armor.
Sincerely, a Shugoki main
Quarry: Let's give hyper armor to everyone in the game! Expect for the guy in a LITERAL FULL SUITE OF ARMOR.
Am i the only Who Thinks it would be best if fh had sepperate patches for console and pc? Bc these are complete different worlds
Law's shove should have not confirmed a light because now he can't do his old shove mix-ups
As a day one lb main I’m happy he is actually usable now but immensely disappointed I have to wait even longer for another buff
On the bright side this gives them opportunity to do a Peacekeeper and Lawbringer update again, properly.
Callum Jennings agreed. I hope they address them soon though cause all this is doing is making the team look further incompetent at a core part of the game. If they're so desperate to sell something they should sell a content pack for older heroes so they get their season pass payout nonsense for next year and do an actual operation health. Tackle the last of the last issues with the game so everyone can enjoy it with the heroes they main.
Characters don’t need hyper armor to be good and hyper armor detracts from the point of him which is counterattacking and being versatile.
He does still need changes (I would love a soft feint into long arm) but just because he has a lot of armor does not mean he should be just another trading machine. You gotta abuse those parries more
Exactly
I mean yeah, thats the entire focus of his character...but do you know how frustrating it is to finally get to the finisher on his chain in literally ANY MODE only to have one of the MANY people on the field...friend or foe, light you out of your big boy attack? I don't see why they bother giving it to raider on the basis that people are hitting him out of his attacks and then not giving it to lawbringer for the same reason. Hell I'd be cool if they only gave it to the side finishers since they do less damage than the top one....but man...tying to abuse parries forever is mind numbing. It's like trying to play smash bros and trying to fight completely with perfect blocks. And yeah you can say make a read, but why does his entire character have to be making a read, even the one saving grace in the form of that stupid light after shove is still tied to a shove that's not to hard to dodge let me tell you. In summary yes, when playing lawbringer you have to abuse his ridiculous Parry punishes, but that's also the reason he's weak, kinda like another character that has to make stupid reads to deal damage, also known as ganon from smash.
jacob rivera You don’t even have to abuse parries though. His pressure options are honestly incredible after playing him. If I make one or two parries a fight it’s game changing. Shug and Hitokiri’s hyper armor unblockables are no joke and provide a ton of pressure. LB does not need that, especially considering how fast his are comparatively.
Bricky (at least in these clips) is ranting about the character without properly playing the character. He is not patient, he isn’t reading his opponent.
If you want mindless offense LB is not the character for you. He has everything he needs but you gotta play smart.
If anything, his complaints seem more about Raider’s stunning tap than anything. If you can’t react to those you’re getting dicked no matter who you are.
Ubisoft : yo we should make some characters attacks uninterruptible
Lawbringer: cool that's a nice mechanic for me to have
Ubisoft : Give it to sugoki
Lawbringer: okay that makes sense since he is a large heavy, but can I have some
Ubisoft: and raider and worlord
Laawbringer: okay they are still larger charecters so it makes sense for them to have it but it is wierd you gave it to them before me.
Ubisoft: and berserker
Lawbringer: okay you gave it to an assasin charecter before me for some reason. Can I please have some of it now.
Ubisoft: Oh, Lawbringer you're still here
Lawbringer: OKAY FUCK YOU TOO
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Me: Sad Mortem :(
I have NEVER, and I say NEVER, seen bricky this annoyed before. He has a point though!
Dear fellow Warden Mains,
If you see a friendly Lawbringer please make sure you defend them to stop them from going through a pain that no one should experience.
From, A Crusader
we also suffer because our moveset has the depth of a puddle, at least you guys have more chains
Also it would be really nice if you could just end me rightly....like just end it. Please.
Brick: WHERE IS MY STAMINA
Also Brick: throwing out heavies on 20% stamina
Characters like lawbro, pk, talk, nobu, musha feel forgotten or marginalized compared to many others
People will still play Lawbringer. People played him even though he was shit. He's better now. People like lawbringer.
@Ascenndant same, I main nobu and I get sad when I realize all her recoveries are slower than hitokiri's.
I really hope Ubisoft watches this and takes Lawbringer back to the drawing board. Seriously he's the most decked out hero in full armor. And he has absolutely no hyper armor. Good logic no question about it.
Thank you for openly expressing everything I've thought about LawPapa since yesterday
I do agree whit ya lad.
A dude whit FULL Chainmail armor is sure to be having constant resistance to a lot of things.
And look at Sakura,Hyper Armor on I don't know a normal human whit fucking leather armour.
And a full Chainmail armour can't resist a slight hit.
Brick, he's never going to get an opener. He's always going to be a turtle. That's his playstyle. That's what you signed up for but you didn't realize. He's a counter attacker. Never going to be anything else, it's the intended design of the hero
cant really counter that good
@@jacklee-oc3tv Are you joking
Isaac Vincent But you seem to forget that Black Prior has an opener and he’s a counter attacker, Warlord has one as well. Counter attacker doesn’t mean turtle, it just means you can get punished for being reckless. Your argument is flawed on a fundamental level.
@@delghatto7315 I don't mean what it says on the hey select screen. That's unreliable to go by in almost all cases. But Lawbringer was built this way intentionally. It doesn't matter what it says on the hero select screen
Isaac Vincent its good but not gread
It triggers me when "lawbringer mains" get a heavy parry and do a light instead of a light + heavy, but you can get a light stun into a combo light.
literally the Legion of For Honor :(
molendzik nah more like the wraith
Big oof
dont you think guys that the unblockable side heavy should be undodgeable ? i think it would be a great addition and make law very versitile. Also it kinda makes sense with that huge weapon he has
Thanos Tsolakis agreed! If basically BP has it and he just has an arming sword Lawbringer should have it given he has a big ass poleaxe
Look to what they did to my boy...
As someone who played lb from release i am disappointed, my friend who played kensei got such a good rework, then another friend got a warden rework. And here i am with this garbage. Dont get me wrong he is better but... Really... No new mix-ups, openers, soft feints... Sure we got hyper-armor on some heavies, come on ubi. Why u do dis
Bricky= HE'S BETTER
Also Bricky="Look how they massacred my boy"
I don’t play law boi but you are so god damm right
LB needs hyper armor on heavys and soft faint into long arm or bash
Well at least he is better now than cent. I main cent but right now he is the mozambique of for honor....
Kristóf Nagy
Nah I still get people with delayed heavies
@@CameronKujo well on console maybe but on pc i don't think so. Also i meant in high level fights.
Kristóf Nagy
I’m on PC.....
Please End Me
THANK YOU
I don't even play for honor but seeing bricky rant is just so fun.
How he feels about the LB rework is how I felt about the valkyrie rework :(
But the valkeryie rework was goof
@@nedgleed7880 Yes, that's my point...it is goof...it's not good...
@@collinspecht6725 it made her more fun and good so I'd say it was at least a decent rework
@Ascenndant her heavies do little damage but her lights do decent damage, plus she generally is much better than she was before
@@nedgleed7880 ..... ok guys..
Her side lights get parried often. Her first light is 400, but all others are slower (forget the speed), which leads to them getting parried. Her leg sweep gets dodged so much, no one uses it. Her Shield Bash is ok, but only leads to a guaranteed light and that's literally it. She has next to NO mix up capability. Zone is shit and easy to parry.
The only good thing about her is the superior dodge in to bleed and superior lights.
it is not the problem that lawbringer is not getting hyper armor, its the problem that EVERYONE else is getting hyper armor because of im pretty sure that raider would survive without hyper armor when in a game
+1
U know what i facking love u and ur for honor vids keep up the amazing work
Edit:yeèeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
I also feel like this is exactly what I'm gonna sound like when the Ara rework/tweek comes out
As a LB that never used to do shove on block a lot I honestly don't miss it, and when it comes to the stunning tap: Block top and react to the heavies that come through.
Next time play Katawa Shoujo.
No....never again...emi breaks my heart too much. Also I purposely try to kill myself by picking all the choices that cause my heart to explode.
Lawbringer's the most versatile piece of garbage right now LOL
You mean having 400ms doesn't fix a character?
no if it only ce from top, and i don't think lawdaddy needs 400ms, he needs mixups and hyper armor, fast attacks doesn't suit him.
This rant is fine. It's not a rant of anger, but of passion. You see so much potential that you just have to let everyone know, and i feel your pain, even though I don't play for honour.
Hey, it's polished garbage. It's shinier than garbage, but it's still garbage.
Wierd that Bricky calls Lawbringer shit yet this rework literally made him the best character in the game. His points would be true if this game wasn't defense-oriented.
Le funi 50 damage parry punish 😂👌
Lawbringer rework resume
Lawbringer: doing ad mortem for mix up
Ennemy: back dodge
Lawbringer:
:o
I like the changes, definitely a step in the right direction. Sure it could use more, but I'd prefer them taking small steps like this than suddenly overbuffing them
Lawbringer has it even rougher in 4v4 after losing his impaling charge, now he is just a bad 1vx'er that gets his unblockable hyper armor move on parry
My only gripe with the lawbringer rework is that the 500ms shove is now a generic bash as opposed to a tool for mix ups.
Don't get me wrong he needed some shove buffs to counteract the removal of shove on block, but confirmed lights just take away any reason to use the mix ups that lb already had, similar to the valk rework in a way, ubi took away something that was annoying to deal with (shove on block from lb and the weird light bash sweep heavy bash sweep pseudo-infinite from valk) and gave them the equivalent to a warlord headbutt, a simple, one dimensional bash that confirms damage.
I think it strips the character of the fun things you could do with pre rework lb, like having constant mix ups with shoves to disorientate and force a reaction out of the opponent with the gb/heavy/light mix-up.I would've much preferred some other options out of shove rather than making a free light be the only thing viable. Like the ability to instantly go to a top unlockable heavy which you could then hard feint, or maybe have the option of an undodgeable side heavy, maybe even a faster but still reactable long arm. By giving lb more mix up options out of shove but not confirming any damage, would keep the base of lb as a defensive, fundamentals based character who wouldn't go mental with soft feints and whatnot. But still had the basic gameplay of bait and punish, through fundamental mechanics.
I agree with your mention of how easily counterable his only opener is (400ms lights) Similarly to valk when they introduced 400ms lights to her, it makes the top guard too important of an option, valk will almost always top light follow up if they miss a bash, and I don't want lb to suffer the same problem and get beaten by people playing static guard characters who have enough braincells to move to top guard to counter the most viable follow up to a missed bash or a random opener in neutral.
As for openers, even pre rework I never had any issues even pre rework, I'd get creative with openers, emote tech to lights gb or long arm. Heavy whiffs to lights (and now shove) as a bait and punish. Or side dodge shove to counter top lights and heavies.also the rework gives his side lights the ability to chain into heavies for someix ups with gbs. Sure nothings guaranteed but it all can work because no-one nowadays JUST turtles except like real degenerates.
As for your comparison to hitokiri, I understand that the hyper armor is appealing but hitokiri has been made specifically as a character with nothing but hyper armor and mixups, and even then their a elf character so of course ubi wants to make them better than the base roster but in the end they're different characters.
Lb is supposed to be a defense based character, he has 5 options out of parry (top heavy, impale, stun light, gb and zone) so it's clear that ubi wants him as a bait and punish character who can intercept attacks with quick lights and has a threat of solid damage gb punishes to counter dodging his mix ups, and a threat of great options out of parry to avoid people just light attacking him out of his heavies, he doesn't NEED super armor on anything out of dodge because he has so much pressure from parry and gb, sure it'd be nice to be able to trade and yeah he might visually have heavy armor, but gameplay-wise he doesn't need it.
Ubi gave lb a terrible rework, right down there with orochi and valk, but hes still great in 4s and has solid pressure and great punishes in 1v1s. He's a solid, mid tier character who doesn't need anything else to be viable, hyper armor is a luxury with isn't just handed out because of the appearance of a character, or because the fan base around the character want it, hyper armor is given because it's essential as a part of their kit to make them viable, hitokiri would be the worst character in the game without hyper armor, she needed it to make her kit viable for use whereas lb doesn't need anything else. Bar possibly better mix ups out of shove.
I fought a rep 65 law bringer and he absolutely destroyed me