2023 Toyota Supra Manual tested, BYE BYE Nissan Z
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2024
- This is the 2023 Toyota Supra and yes, I have tested this car before but NOT with a manual transmission which caused many complaints to Toyota's PR desk and amazingly Toyota listened. Of course, the fact that the new Nissan 400Z has a manual transmission could also have factored into the decision. All we care about is that we are very grateful it's here.
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:29 Exterior
1:16 New Transmission
1:47 Traction Control System Updates
2:09 Brakes, Tires, and Wheels
2:29 Under The Hood
3:02 Pricing
3:27 Cargo Space
4:06 Interior
4:52 Driving
15:57 Verdict
Looks
When I first saw the Supra in photos I wasn't too impressed but in person, it works and it's leaps and bounds cooler looking than its BMW Z4 twin, which by the way doesn’t get a stick shift option.
The best view is from the back and the top, firstly with its double-bubble roof, which must be expensive to make, and then the ducktail rear spoiler, the Supra lettering, and the large tailpipes. Altogether it has a very cohesive look. I least like the front for one very good reason, those fake vents on either side. Surely it wouldn't have cost much more to make them real.
What's New?
Toyota squeezed in an existing ZF six-speed manual transmission for the Supra, removed some sound-deadening, and fitted a larger reinforced clutch. This has served to lighten it by 40 lbs versus its automatic 3.0-liter sibling. Manual cars receive a shorter final-drive ratio, however, the manual's individual gear ratios and overall gearing are taller than the automatic.
Toyota has re-tuned the manual car's traction-control system, adjusted the stability control on all 3.0 models, and added a new Hairpin+ function which eases back the electronically controlled limited-slip differential in very tight bends. The steering has been updated as well for six-cylinder models together with retuned adaptive dampers to improve ride comfort and provide better all round body control.
The brakes remain the same, at the front it has 13.7-inch vented rotors and 13.6-inch vented rotors at the rear and it wears some new for 2023, 19-inch alloy wheels with Michelin Pilot Super Sport 255/35 at the front and 275/35s at the back.
Under the hood
The engine in the 2023 Toyota Supra is the same 3.0 straight six from BMW which in this car produces 382 horsepower and 365 lb-ft of torque. 0-60 with a good launch takes around 4.2 seconds, a little slower than the automatic but far more fun.
You do, however, take a hit on fuel economy with an EPA combined estimate of 21 mpg 5 mpg less than the automatic 3.0 model.
Pricing
The manual is available as a no-cost option on the 3.0 and 3.0 Premium models, but you can't get it on the base turbo 2.0-liter four which is a shame, never say never though we might get one eventually.
Pricing for this Premium model starts at $55,650 and there are a couple of options checked, this Stratosphere Blue paint for $425 and the Driver Assist Package for $1,195. That takes the total price including destination to $58,365
2023 Toyota Supra Premium Numbers
BASE PRICE: $55,650
PRICE AS TESTED: $58,365
VEHICLE TYPE: Front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 2-passenger, 2-door hatchback
ENGINE TYPE: 3.0 liter turbocharged and inter-cooled DOHC inline-6
POWER: 382 hp @ 6500 rpm
TORQUE: 365 lb-ft @ 1600 rpm
TRANSMISSION: 6-speed manual with rev-matching
CURB WEIGHT: 3,340 lb
ZERO to 60 mph: 4.2 sec
TOP SPEED: 155 mph
TIRES: Michelin Pilot Super Sport, Front: 255/35 ZR-19, Rear: 275/35 ZR-19
EPA FUEL ECONOMY: Combined/city/highway 21/19/27
OUR OBSERVED: 19.2 mpg
PROS: Scintillating handling, fantastic crackling exhaust, superbly quick
CONS: Very snug inside, not much storage - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Great review! THIS is the Supra for me. Well done Toyota. Well done. Toyota is really killing it with their GR lineup. I don't know how much longer we will have all this sports car goodness but I am determined not to take it for granted right now. Thanks again for the video. BTW this car looks STUNNING in that blue!
What the hell, that hairpin at 11:23 popped out of nowhere and was GLORIOUS! Move. That. Ass! 😀 I would not own one, but God I love that car. Thanks for posting!!
I have never once hit the climate controls or my elbow on a cup (in the back cup holder) in the 7k miles of driving my MT Supra. Other than that remark great review 😂
Automatic is faster!
Manual is more fun
No human can shift faster than a computer. My smiles shifting in my 2023 A91 6MT are priceless though. No comparison to auto.
ZF gearbox is good
Either automatic or manual for this supra is fantastic. Pick your sword. Can't go wrong with either. The zf 8 is glorious. And the manual is a dog in the fight.
Also more boring?
Bye bye Z? You spend $10,000 more for a supra with minimal performance advantages. 0-60 3.8 in the supra and 4.0 in the Z. Not to mention the supra is a reskinned BMW. LMAO
You need to drive both, the supra embarrasses it big time. So I bought a 22 supra!! And I bought my supra for $54k not to bad.
The Z is garbage riding for a "sports" car. Embarassing especially spending over 50k for one.
How did you get 10k more? Supra starts at 53k and the Z... I mean the Z worth buying starts at 50k.
Supra new car from the ground up. Significantly more investment than the Z. ive had 4 Zeds. Nissan didnt bother bringing new Z here. So people got Supra or Mustang instead
😂 the Z ain't it, yI'm sorry, the Supra is much superior 😔
Wow that z4 roadster looks amazing. Please do a review on the supra if Toyota does ever decide to make one. Thank you sir.
Best performing Supra ever made ;)
Also I didn’t see a roadster in the video? Appeared to be a hardtop?