I was homeless for 4 years and I absolutely despised the shelters. I have a couple of mental health issues but when i was in the shelters the other people would bully me and get away with it, and even the staff bullied me sometimes as well. I couldn't say anything or do anything about it because if I did I would be banned and throw out. But there was a homeless person that was older than me who let me stay near him, he was the nicest person ever. And when someone started bullying me he would tell them to stop. There's more reasons I don't like the shelters but that was the biggest one.
Hello, I would love to hear more about other reasons why you despise them. I know a few other reasons could be stealing, or abuse, or harassment and other things. I’m sorry you had to go through that. But it would be wonderful to hear someone’s voice on the topic who went through it.
@@alexacordova4431 uh hello. So I would love to hear u list all the problems with these homeless shelters. U see I have a goal to help homeless ppl. And finding all the flaws in homeless shelters would be nice.
I don't understand why the media doesn't interview the homeless themselves and get a real view on shelters instead of interviewing a paid city employee who is paid to glorify these money pits
@LuneyTune72 Um, actually....NO THE FUKK IT'S NOT!!!! What you just said is a COMPLETE LIE!!! I was in those places for almost two years, and those shelters along with how they're run by the social services agencies, is UNSPEAKABLE! So you have Literally NO BUSINESS posting straight up BS like that if you haven't both SEEN & LIVED through the shelter/homeless system yourself!! P.S. Some(many) people actually don't make it out the shelters alive. Some of them were my friends.😢
@@LuneyTune72Well that's completely UNTRUE I split up with my husband and had to leave in a hurry and ended up in one of these places.......... I was neither a drug addict at all never touched them in my life nor did I have any mental issues And let me tell you these HELLHOLES ARE HORRIFIC. First of all the staff STOLE my nice stuff designer sunglasses, designer watch, jewellery and 500 Dollar shoes. They abused me and bullied me and once a male member of staff physically hit me! Don't blame the homeless one bit for preferring to stay on the street most say the same thing I do their experience of these " shelters" are they are exact
I will not stay at a shelter anymore. A few years ago I got my backpack taken from under my head while I was sleeping. It's the people who ruin it. Both the staff and the homeless.
The staff at homeless shelters are often volunteers. I can't fathom complaining about someone who is giving up their time for free for their community. Spare me the sob stories about how "abusive" and "uncaring" they are. Shelters have strict rules (ie- no smoking, no alcohol, no drugs, along with strict curfews and required attendance at church services) and the staff members are there to tell you that if you break those rules, you'll be asked to leave. That's not being abusive, that's doing their job to keep the place as safe and clean as possible. Shelters are not hotels with room service.
@@sean2015So true... If you want to call your own shots, do it when you can get your own place but as long as you are under someone else's roof, You have to follow their rules... It's like parents always tell their kids.... The rules are in place for everyone and their safety and well being... I've worked in a shelter and have been often villified for doing my job so it's always the people that want to break the rules that complain....
@@ezstreete I'd like to hear more about your experience working at a shelter. Did you ever have to eject or bar someone for breaking one of the rules? I often hear the excuse "shelters are always full" for why people can't seek a bed in one but I know that can't always be true night after night (simple law of averages).
@@sean2015 so what about the part where he said he got his book bag stolen from up under his head… You’re completely avoiding what the he said. As usual if you don’t want to be there, then don’t be there! No one wants your pity because it comes with attitude people want actually gracious people who want to see the world be a better place not little boys and girls who had no choice to be there because they’re trying to get credit on their college record for standing around and ignoring people!
The shelters are like a pre release prison... That's the real reason why... It's crowded, full of addicts, alcoholics ,snitches , bullies ... being harassed is another problem because of snitches constantly watching you, no privacy .... I been in prison and homeless shelter and it's very similar !!!
True, some of them have psychiatric disabilities that cause them to be sadistic and abusive, and they will, as a group, harass one person who is alone. Sometimes, the staff is the same. Everyone there is hostile to you, it makes people so angry that they go out and end up stabbing people or just sleeping on the subway every night. This country, the planet, has an epidemic of antisocial personality disorder and narcissism, and this is the cause of a lot of peoples actions that violate others. It is a public health problem, because their behavior affects the safety of other people. The government ought to do something, I bet you could think of a possible reason why they don’t.
As someone that was living on the streets for about a year I learned to only go to shelters when it became extremely cold or extremely hot. Shelters tend to favor the severely mentally ill, drug addicts and people right out of prison. First night at a shelter within 5 mins of getting there had a huge fight break out where they made everyone leave for 2 hours to clean up the blood. 2nd time in a shelter had a guy start accusing everyone of stealing from him and had people just urinating everywhere. On top of that all the shelters I went to treat the people like criminals but at the same time the ones that are causing the problems and violence are never kicked out since the police tell the shelters not to do it since they don't want to deal with it. One guy did give me advice and said if you do go to the shelter never leave your stuff alone because everyone will try and steal from you even the staff and if you complain they will just kick you out and ban you since they are just there for a paycheck and don't care about anyone that's there.
Because they’ve made shelters long term-and it’s mentally exhausting to deal with shelter crap for years on out. It IS just like prison. Some people would rather freeze than spend time in shelters: that tells you a lot!
They put their pride over the betterment of themselves. People need to put their egos aside and understand they are at the bottom and will be treated like it until they are not.
Staff are Very Evil I was Explaining my situation to them bc the Train Was late ..staff Wrote me up claiming I cussed at them..I Never Cussed at staff . Ever. They plot evil Against you . I used to work at Two shelters. Our supervisor wad a Christian man he would never allow staff to mistreat the clients & he would give people off the street a job.
I think we need to look at the homeless situation in every country and make a plan while taking everything into consideration. This problem isn't going to fix itself, and we depend on our communities for survival. If we don't work together, society will fall apart. This topic deserves more attention.
@@jessicajohnston5693 sounds reasonable to me. The homeless population serve to destroy the foundation of freedom this country was built on. Street living should be criminalized.
@@TVHouseHistorian does that include the women and children running away from abuse (a choice to get beat up/to death or raped or become homeless is not a choice)? The seniors who get priced out of a place to live despite working all their lives and saving for retirement? The disabled people living on an insufficient disability check? Or maybe that should include someone like me who ended up homeless because of an act Of God called a hurricane. I didn't choose to be homeless I don't want to be homeless and I didn't earn It by bad choices. Once more I don't do drugs I'm not an alcoholic and I not only will work but I have a real job as a tree climber/job site foreman. FYI you don't get to be a job site foreman by being lazy showing up late drunk high making poor choices etc you get there by being responsible smart and hard working. I think they/I deserve better than concentration camps, labor camps, or prison. It's a catch twenty two situation if you try to use a one size fits all solution. All hard on the homeless and the decent people who didn't choose or earn homelessness suffer undeservingly (aka cruel and unusual punishment). All easy and lazy bums addicts thieves vandals etc get to take advantage. That's the problem. Most of society just wants to treat the whole homeless population as all criminals pariahs and modern day lepers. The biggest problem with that is anyone who falls on hard times and wants to do the right thing working and earning their own way and not causing a problem will only end up suffering more and have getting out of homelessness made that much harder for them. Fun fact. There might be a few beds open in shelters but you still can't fit the whole homeless population (620,000+) in shelters (there are only 350,000 beds total in the us). There might have been a hundred beds in shelters but how many homeless people were there around. I'd bet it was more than 100. This is a classic case of the media using suggestive wording to manipulate people's belief/understanding. Saying that there was 100 beds available in shelters suggesting all the homeless could just go to a shelter. They conveniently forgot to mention the divide between the numbers of homeless people and the number of beds in shelters let alone that a shelter is not necessarily a safe place. Think about two things. First, most people believe the homeless population is mostly addicts crazies etc (failing to or refusing to acknowledge the homeless disabled, elderly, woman and children working homeless etc) but they somehow think/fail to recognize that these shelters house the very same homeless people that they think avoid shelters for drugs and alcohol or because they are crazy. The homeless on the outside of shelters are not all bad and those on the inside are not all good. The crazies addicts etc also go to stay in shelters though not all of them. Second drugs alcohol and weapons get into maximum security prisons with extreme security (including strip searches 12 ft tall razor wire topped fencing armed guard towers etc) so what makes you think the same things don't get into shelters with a half rear bag check and rent a cop security guards? Look up "homeless shelters UNDERREPORT INCIDENTS" online and you'll find countless examples of documentaries and news articles who documented (as in seen and recorded) that shelters are often not safe or drug and alcohol free. Not to mention how cities and officials lie about how homeless shelters are a godsend and safe haven.
Wish there was a system that shelters use to keep the other problematic people seperated. Like who had the brilliant idea of keeping all the potentially abusive and disruptive people, all in the same room as the harmless and vulnerable people as they slept.
JAIL we have a place for violent meth heads it's called jail. Idk why it's controversial. If I drink and drive and hurt someone I'm accountable for drinking in the first place.
In a time and setting in which AI is a thing you’d think we’d have a stronger understanding of how to manage emergency shelters and all matter of resources to keep people within a safe haven
@@TheOther12523 it’s a homeless shelter. This is the gutter. They throw people in when they can’t pay their way. Dignity? Privacy? Decency? Cleanliness? Enjoyable company? Service? Comfort? Fairness? Justice? All the forementioned are for paying customers.
The most abusive ppl at shelters are usually the staff. So. You propose to separate the staff from the clients & expect the staff to be honest & report to you personally if they disobey the rules? Great plan buddy 🙄
@@annarey7518 They can go where they want to go and do what they want to do. They're not locked behind a barbed wire fence, or a man pointing an m16 at them if they try to leave. Yes, homeless people have more freedom. What a stupid a question.
Some people stay outside because of the horrible treatment they get in tbe shelter from the uneducated and judgemental staff that instead of trying to spread dignified care instead feel powerful and superior to the client and exercise demoralizing and arrogant abuse by their behavior.
I was homeless and I chose not to sleep in the shelter. No peace around some of the people. Single room homeless shelters. Where you are able to work and get reestablished is what we need.
How did you get single room shelter ? And yes they don’t wanna help you they don’t even get to know you fr and your needs the just through you in a room With other ppl sad foreal
I was homeless but it really depends on the type of shelter for me there are four types of shelters 1. Clean safe and great staffing 2. Prison like atmosphere and non caring staff 3. Progressive program to help with jobs life planing and housing afterwards 4.a place to just sleep until the next not bad not good just indifferent a tax write off What they have here falls under 3. Progressive Shelters always the best in my book
Keep in mind that these folks on the street were once somebodies' children and if you are religious, god's children. I've been following this issue since 1982, an issue with longer roots than that. I can't believe that we, the USA has not come up with a solution yet.
The vast majority of shelters are toxic places for the vast majority of the homeless. As someone that was homeless many times in some horrid conditions even when tempted to try to use a shelter within minutes of going in I would leave out of fear for my own safety. That is the reality of your tax money being wasted on bad short term solutions for a serious long term problem.
Reminder... If you are not at the shelter a 5PM, or maybe 6PM, you ain't getting in. People freeze to within a block of a shelter, because if you aren't there for the sermon, you ain't getting in. Then they will kick you out at 6AM (the coldest time of day) to go "look for work". [at the end of the video she states "Cincinnati's homeless shelters are open from 7PM to 6AM" Meaning that you are too late after 7PM and they will kick you ass out at 6AM, while it is still dark]
That's not how my shelter runs at all? That's really strange to picture, where I work here in Canada there is definitely never a sermon because that would be pretty culturally insensitive, I imagine maybe one that's church run might but not the government funded ones. Also maybe it's just due to how cold it gets up here but ours is 24/7 and you're always welcome to come in and get food/coffee regardless of time the only exception is for people popping in and out for smokes every hour all night than we tell them quiet time is 11pm to 6am so they need to choose in or out.
@@Anony584 yeah and they fucking suck. I've been to more sermons than most Christian people. You also won't get a meal if you don't go to the sermon first. As I got older I found that there are easier ways to get food and shelter on the street than going to a shelter.
That's not true...get your facts straight....not all homeless people are on drugs and mentally Ill....There are some people if excellence there trying to get a new start...or with a job ready and have a plan to do better....Sone only need a fee for an ID just to go apply for that job....So, get all the facts before you put people in a category.
True, and I know from experience as a houseless person (sleeping my van)that not all of us are drug addicts or whinos, or anything but just need a new start Many of these comments are ingnorant people
@DivineBliss thanks for the honesty and don't waste your time with the shelter, they have no respect for people, your a number to them I'm 49 years old and by the Grace of God working an old job I left Over 2 years ago because of the COVID-19 Scam It took me a long time to find employment and going back to my old employment wasn't Really a thought but at least I'm able to keep my van on the road God will make a way Unfortunately because of the work schedule, I can't find a second job Sleep at the local truck stop at night and work during the day Keep saving your money, things are getting worse for us poor folks No joke Hang in there, it's going to be an interesting time soon
The main reason we choose to camp _outside_ in Santa Cruz County California right now is that we are totally abstinent, and the City of Santa Cruz third-party managed shelters are drug dens where residents use meth and fentanyl, sometimes with staff. This is such common knowledge on the streets here that a meth dealer-addict who was afraid of the Sheriffs once proclaimed to us, "I'm going to the Armory [shelter] because you can do drugs there!" The second reason we camp outside rather than stay in the City of Santa Cruz shelters is that we've had our Bipolar Type I in full remission for five years due to a simple daily medication regimen that took three years of working monthly with a private Stanford educated psychiatrist to finesse, and the City shelters are filled with people who are on the Bipolar - Schizoaffective - Schizophrenic spectrum and so whacked out because they refuse to take meds that we simply don't want to be around them. The third reason we will not live in a City of Santa Cruz shelter is that we need our Acer Chromebook and our Samsung Galaxy to get a job, housing, and pick up our 4.0 in nonprofit management at university where we left off before becoming homeless, and we don't need an angry, low paid, nonprofit shelter staff person to steal our gear to spite us for our success. Governor Newsom can go blow the 25 billion California tax dollars wasted on his homeless programs in the past five years up his ***.
If you want homelessness low the only way to do is to keep these shelters save for them to stay if we actually listen to the homeless people you will understand why they refused to stay most get rob from there stuff some get killed and yet no one does a dam thing and you expect them to stay there
I don't understand people who say they refuse to go to a shelter because it's "unsafe", and yet they'll sleep in a moving subway train or in a tent in subzero weather underneath a freeway overpass, exposed to the elements and rats.
@@rustyshackleford4801 well not exactly Rusty. You didn't get the gist of what I was trying to say. I always hear the excuse from bleeding heart Leftists that "shelters are full". Baloney. They are not full every single night of the year. The real issue is that most shelters have RULES, such as: no smoking, no drinking, no drugs, as well as strict curfews and the requirement to look for a job. Most street people have a substance addiction problem and are unwilling (let alone unable) to live by those rules, so they choose instead to sleep on the streets. Still others are just anti-social, paranoid, etc., and will refuse help even if someone approaches them to offer it.
@@sean2015 its sounds like you have programmed a few concepts in your mind to think about people like that. If youve ever been homeless with absolutley no one to fall back on then youd understand what people are saying. About the curfew thing.......if a job has a conflicting schedule or a schedule not exactly set in stone then a lot of shelters "strict rules" would prevent you from making money to pull yourself out of your situation. It sounds like you cant look past whatever ideas you have about homeless people to hear what they have to say or any concerns they may have. It sounds like you feel as if becuase they are homeless or have issues that you cant understand or relate to that you feel as if they dont deserve the help or proper courtesy. Ive personally have had something as petty as MULTI-VITAMINS missing out of my pack that I had that was supposed to be locked up according to thier rules ( which means the staff was responsible for the missing pills). When I inquired about what was missing I got yelled at and no one was nice about it.
@@MrJames-te4bw first of all, let's set straight the definition of "homeless". There are many people who are homeless who are couch surfing or living out of trailers, cars, vans, etc., and showering at the gym but hold down full-time jobs and are otherwise clean and sober individuals. They choose to sleep in cars or whatever because they live in expensive areas where they can't afford housing, such as Southern California. I've lived out of my car as well. So yes I've technically been "homeless", even if it was only for a short time. But it was my choice. I could've gone to live with my parents and slept in their basement, but I chose not to. These "homeless" people are DIFFERENT from the "street people" who actually live on the streets and sleep in trains, train stations, airports or sometimes inside ATM lobbies. THOSE people are so screwed up from drugs that are unable to seek help for themselves, and many will reject help offered to them other than hard cash so they can buy dugs or booze. I've volunteered at a shelter and we have had to remove such people for things like fighting, stealing, assaulting, and shooting up, etc., So I just want to get the definition of "homeless" straight before I debate with you any further.
H 2:042:04 homeless shelters everywhere should be open in the day time, provide skill-building activities like wood working/carpentry, safe food handling and food prep skills for both personal diet and food service careers, provide GED tutors and educational and literature materials for those who want the help in the moment, etc. It’s also a shame that so many shelters kick people out into the elements at 6 or 7am in the mornings, regardless of the climate or weather patterns. So many people have nowhere to go in the day time. If anything, 6-7am should be WakeUp hour, 7-8am should be the breakfast and pack-up hour, and then 9-5 there should different tasks and activities for people to do if they don’t want to leave in the daytime. It would help so many more people be able to develop new habits and safe living skills so they can have a chance of succeeding more often in life, and less time in the day to use illegal substances or act the fool out in public. The doors should be open in the daytime. Those who work odd hours should have a ticket to get in the door for a reserved bed if they get off work at a later time. Couples should be able to stay together, albeit maybe in separate beds but sharing a cubicle with two beds in it. Not all shelters should mandate or enforce people to sleep in bunk beds like they’re little kids, these are grown adults who deserve better than kid-sized bunk beds. Shelters should look into college-dorm-room furniture, like XL-twin adult beds (standard height at 2-3ft from floor to mattress), and office cubicle dividers to section off individual sleeping spaces. I once stayed a shelter that threw 4ft long kid-sized nap pads, all frayed and and beat up, less than 1” thick due to wear and tear, on the floor for women to sleep on. It didn’t make a difference between floor and not-floor. I had a yoga mat with me that was more comfortable than that flimsy vinyl ancient rag they told me was a “temporary bed”. Ya right. Another shelter had prison style metal bunk beds with rounded rungs on the ladders that hurt my feet and knees, I was assigned to the top bunk while the occupant of the lower bunk never showed up for more than a few minutes before leaving again, using it for storage and getting away with it. The only plus side was I had storage on a window sill for my personal items. They banned men and women from talking to each other and didn’t allow anyone to stay inside past 9am until 5pm. No activities or safe things for folks to do to stay out of trouble, so everyone there was a tweaker out on sidewalks until they could go back inside. It was awful. That’s not the way to help people get better, you’re just assigning chores, banning people from talking to their spouses or siblings, and treating grown adults like naive children who need bunk beds instead of adult single beds, and then expecting them to fix their own problems in the day time without any help or oversight. That’s certainly NOT the way, either.
Hi all as a 56 year old Australian man i was homeless for 5 years , I only spent 4 days at a shelter i personally would rather live under a small bridge it is a whole lot Safer , I now own an RV (It was left to me from a family member that passed away i am very lucky :>} Rob NSW Australia
Thank you to everyone. Living life the best I can .help anyone when I can . In a small town on the NSWcoast Australia at the moment. EVerone is so friendly. God bless all
It is sad that every agency representative blamed the homeless for their negligence and failure to maintain humane conditions at their shelters. Instead of admitting they failed an individual and it resulted in his death is sickening absolutely sad!!
@@sean2015 Bums yet you chose to volunteer with them? Clearly you have no respect for these people so tell me, what were your ACTUAL motivations for "volunteering" you POS?
Put the proper training in place to deal with the spectrum of homelessness. My issue is dealing with services that will treat you less than when you need assistance. It's pretty sick, but people have accustomed themselves to think that people are just self-entitled to begging or getting help and overall disrespectful for asking for help. Im going to keep pursuing my plan but just because I'm in this position doesn't give you the right to disregard that I'm actually working towards a goal. There's so many of us out here too doing the same. Like I know I'm gonna have to give back to the cause, and that's final. I've been asking for service that is more empathetic towards the progression of these lives. It saddens me for a second but I have to let it go and work though it. I myself do not want to wake up in my car, still looking for work I wake everyday before 730 to get up and go look for jobs while producing my personal work for business purposes. Reform these jobs man. They need real training to begin with.
For 1 they kick you out at 6 or 7 am bed bugs they don't give you any bus fair force religion on you 4 times a day you have to check in at certain time regardless if you got a job
I was homeless the snoring was so bad in the shelters; I stayed up some nights and slept on the subway bench in the stations. they should not pack people together like sardines and wake them up 5:30 am when it takes them 2 hours to get to sleep. it wears them down.
thats the problem 7pm to 6am they dont want to get up out off a warm bed and go out into the cold it a pain in the uu then when they find a place to make a little tent or something it time to pack up and go hoping there room for them i dont understand why you cant get money togther and make tiny houses for them give them a reason to do better the ones that can
They should stop building homeless shelters becouse they are a waste of money becouse you cant live in homeless shelters people aviod homeless shelters becouse they dont want to be around crowds of people not becouse of mental illness in some cases they need to concentrate on building affordable houseing and if some homeless cannot afford houseing then there needs to special funds put aside to help with affordable houseing , lady fowler
I had a friend who hated black people and I asked her why and she said "Its because they abuse kids and think its ok." Then I asked her Why she believes that and she said "Because I was abused by black people as a kid and watched this family abuse their own kids like it was no big deal." I told her, "Sounds like you have had bad experiences with black people but do you think that other black people you meet might be nice?" My point here is this was a learning experience for her and I. I realized that hate is born from fear and so did she. I wanted to pass that on because a lot of people assume all homeless people are alcoholic and just do not want to work and are free loaders. It may be that they are just afraid of the ones they dont know because of the bad experiences they had with the ones they do or did know. Also for the record I dont believe that because a person has an addiction that it makes them less human or less worthy of being loved. It means they need help thats it. My kids and I were homeless and it had nothing to do with not wanting to work or being an addict btw. I am a hard working single disabled mom who was shown much less love of mercy then any human should have to experience in their life time. I know this is long but I hope some people had time to read it and that it helps someone today. God Bless!
It's not just about having a roof. You need a **safe** roof over your head. Homeless shelters are filled with staff that mostly possess a huge God Complex. Little to no support but lots of unnecessary micro management. Filthy conditions. No pathways to facilitate employment.. because they make money off you being unemployed. It's hard to understand unless you have been through it yourself.
I’m in danger of being homeless because I don’t have enough savings. Sadly I paid off almost all my bills except student loans and only will have a 620 credit score after. Also have a full time job and I just can’t make enough money to live
Nah, even we who are not addicts or such don't want to be crammed in with no real privacy and potentially obnoxious humans to deal with. You don't have to be an addict to be unpleasant to live with.
I actually agree on the many homeless in tents, not wanting to be in a shelter. Everyone in it has some kind of weapon and there are no security guards. It is more safer outside then inside a shelter for that reason.
Why don't they don't talk about the fact the there are some homeless people that work part time or full time yet in order to get a bed you have to be at the shelter at a certain time of day and so that leaves some people with 2 options. Option A: quit your job or miss work just to secure a bed or B: go to work to try to get yourself back on your feet and risk not having a roof over your head at night. It's an awful predicament for one to be in
I know somebody that had to go to a shelter because of financial reasons but he tells me it's horrible in there, he's in a room with 50 beds and does not get no sleep and he works all day and has a curfew and they kick you out at 7 AM in the morning.. And the food is disgusting he mentioned also toilet paper and yes u hve to buy ur own.. And don't be surprised if you work and come back and your stuff will be stolen..smh
Yes I’m in it now it is rough it’s unfortunate cause it’s like jail and those people who are vulnerable and civilized don’t get the proper help cause other give it a bad look messes up everything
The Shelters are horrible, wake up at 5am lock the doors at 8pm, meals consisted of beans and rice and expired food from Walmart, People sleeping on mats on the floor inches from each other, cold air coming in thru broken windows, showers cold most of the time at very low pressure, ration 3 squares of toilet paper, feces and mucus smeared on the walls. People donate clothes and toiletry items, employees of the shelters get first dibs. You have 2 week time limit and resources for housing is a 2 plus year waiting list. Organizations that might help you require you to travel to them, which is impossible when you have no money for bus fare. And on top of that getting sick all the time and your stuff getting shuffled through and stolen. Your only allowed to have 2 bags of items all of your other stuff can not come in so kiss it goodbye. that is just a little bit of the beautiful shelters, everyone says go to the shelters but never been in one, Just drive by a shelter and walk in and look
Primavera in Tucson they don't even run their HVAC. 80 beds in a confined space. 80 ppls skin ,cloths ,bunk shedding. Air quality is so bad. Everyone gets chest infections
I worked in the Investigations Unit of the NYC Shelter system for a long time. You want murderers, rapists, pedophiles, drug dealers, hookers, gang members and psychos ? Well, I had them. It was just like working in the joint minus the cornholeing. How many days did I see blood on the floor? How many guys got taken out in a body bag? Welcome to "Little Sing Sing".. Glad I'm retired
Okay, so the issue may be that the homeless are scared of social ostracism. This can stem from an abusive childhood and drug abuse. The real dilemma is then to BOTH provide for these people financially and provide mental support and trauma therapy.
Sane homeless know not to go into a shelter. Crammed in with thieves and druggies, what meager possessions you have will get rooted through. Staff don't care.
Because people be in there stealing & watching you 👀 waiting for you to drop your gaurd. You gotta be on ps & qs. And stay on mission at ALL times. Or them shelters will eat you alive.
I myself was homeless in and out of shelters, so many shelters would give me difficult times over medications, the few personal possessions I had or my work schedule as I worked for UPS every night I could in the warehouse
Non profit just means hire friends and family with high income. I always notice all the expensive new cars of the staff and management down my street. Often they resemble a new economic sector. Build affordable housing would solve this issue. This one has 17 employees and only 30 clients. I know a scam when I see one.
Youd be surprised how many shelters have abuse and inappropriate behaviors especially towards women. Another thing is homeless people who have items like military medals, valuables with sentimental meaning, or self defense items like knives have these items taken and never returned.
I am in one right now it’s so sad . Imagine being homeless trying to get out of there but you have other homeless people who are bullies and do drugs all day and yell day and night . You already going through the worst part of your life but then you have some staff most of them and other homeless people there who make the stay even more uncomfortable and toxic ! We all sign papers saying we promise to not Harrass nor bully somebody but yet they do it ! If you come into a shelter you need to have a relationship with Jesus Christ other wise you won’t make it and I’m Not talking about going to church you need to know Jesus cause he is your true strength and helper but gotta stay with him and do your best to avoid these people .
Maybe let’s have a shelter where people have to take care of themselves and gave privacy and dignity? You can’t expect someone to work if they have nothing positive to come back to. This is a lousy excuse for helping others. We need to do better for all.
Those have extreme mental illness need to be place in proper care facilities or group homes that are licensed and regularly monitoring to ensure their safety. Property that have been abandoned by owners can be renovated to house families and disabled and veterans who need to get their compensation or apply for their benefits or reestablish their benefits so they can get into affordable apartments or houses they can rent.
was homeless 6 times in my life. ive had more trouble and setbacks staying in the shelters because of the sheer abundence of constant disorder and chaos. you cant find a job or get anything done bc its damn near impossible to sleep. ppl steal from you right off your person while you sleep too. the staff are barred or simply unwilling to keep order and punish those who try to stand up against the known criminal elements in the shelters. thankfully for me, i always had a healthy interest in winter camping and army surplus gear. storage lockers are a good place to stock your own things until you can find a rooming house. army surplus gear is top knotch and nobody wants to usually mess with a hobo in full camo. the gear is extremely useful in winter and i had better results going to the edge of town and back with my ruck than using the shelters.
All true stay far away from Them it’s rare you will find a nice homeless ppl I never realized how cold they could be but I guess too this whole system is just evil gotta protect your mind body soul and spirit
More freedom than in shelters being on trains if you stay clean and keep good conduct....and in parks when you have the survival tools. Higher rate of mental health can be in high places as politicians too.
I pray to God everyday that my wife and I get out of this place weve been stuck in for thebpast two years and into an apartment as soon as possible. Notiing but trashy meth head fentanyl addicts who are just not even mentally stable evough to pick up after themselves or respect other people in here. We have been clean for a coupel years and just want to be shwon the same human respects we showneverypne else. We dont go in other peoples area or throw garvage and urine dog poop etc bear peoples tiny homes, we are in bed at normal hours because we are up early for college daily. But of course that isnnot reciprocated. And the staff could careless thatvpeople openly smoke drugs in the aisles of this tony home shelter. It is a joke. If you want to do that go out into the street where clearly these people still want to be. Makes it infuriating at times for the few people who are really trying ro get on there feet
So true I’m in shelter now it’s bad yep drugs loud fights also this shelter I’m at has animals here it’s horrible . I wouldn’t wish those on anyone however because of all that you’re going through just remain up and keep fighting there’s a huge blessing for those who don’t entertain the drugs and fight and trust in God keep praying and follow what he is saying he is leading his people into huge harvests and overflows and those who are wicked and do bad will be cut off please be safe prayers for your family
Staff mostly are controllers that’s who are in these positions not really many people who are empathetic it’s very rare and usually these people end up quitting 😢
It’s the fact that those homeless programs don’t really help and they they have people they don’t care of help just they to make problems for the people who really want help I should know for experience there is a good reason we people don’t what to go after all and I am saying of the shelters who are no good fact’s
The reason why some avoid it because they rob others stuff and taking something that’s not theirs, also it’s the increasing rent monthly I’ve been there it’s heard on news nyc and some areas in different states must put it 200.00 to 500.00 monthly rent
Some reasons that are rampant city and state wide: frail, ill, disabled, and elderly residents abused and preyed upon by both staff and other residents, financial exploitation - in the form of being forced to hand over benefit checks, food stamps, etc. and even forced to panhandle, young women being sexually trafficked with the full knowledge ( and sometimes participation) of staff, forced labor - including the severely disabled and chronicaly ill/ freshly operated, etc. drug use and trafficking rampant by both staff and other residents, ( if someone chooses to not be a part of this, they are targeted) violence - including assault, rape, rampant theft... And all of this overlooked and swept under the rug by local police and news media. ( because of widespread corruption and a " good ' ol boy" network) This is the daily fare in various cities in Texas and New Mexico - it has been ongoing for years with no relief in sight, because the problems are so deeply entrenched. No wonder many prefer to camp outside - but this is not feasible for elderly, sick, etc. especially in 105+ degree heat, or in the winter. Pro Bono lawyers and activists need to address this - but the won't!
I have been homeless before and I refused to stay in shelters even when the weather was in the negatives. I chose to stay away from the shelters because I didn't want to be around all of the drama not because of drugs or a mental disorder. People like this are why all homeless people get thrown into the same classification "oh they're all drug addicts" or "Oh they all have mental problems" bologna! Get your facts straight. And some shelters can be dangerous depending on where they are located. And I couldn't sleep in them anyway too many people snoring all night.
@@ashleykindheartministries The last shelter that I stayed in I was taking a shower and another guy tried to come into the shower stall with me and we ended up getting into a fight.
I'm currently going through this now and it sucks that I can't do nothing about it. I've made complaints to dhs and they did nothing but believe the shelter staff. this shelters stole my food that I bought which sucks because I don't eat the food they provide.
I was homeless for 4 years and I absolutely despised the shelters. I have a couple of mental health issues but when i was in the shelters the other people would bully me and get away with it, and even the staff bullied me sometimes as well. I couldn't say anything or do anything about it because if I did I would be banned and throw out. But there was a homeless person that was older than me who let me stay near him, he was the nicest person ever. And when someone started bullying me he would tell them to stop. There's more reasons I don't like the shelters but that was the biggest one.
You're dealing with people, some of whom have More issues than Sports Illustrated
Hello, I would love to hear more about other reasons why you despise them. I know a few other reasons could be stealing, or abuse, or harassment and other things. I’m sorry you had to go through that. But it would be wonderful to hear someone’s voice on the topic who went through it.
@@alexacordova4431 uh hello. So I would love to hear u list all the problems with these homeless shelters. U see I have a goal to help homeless ppl. And finding all the flaws in homeless shelters would be nice.
You like drugs they dont
Homeless shelters aren’t full of nice and honest people.
I don't understand why the media doesn't interview the homeless themselves and get a real view on shelters instead of interviewing a paid city employee who is paid to glorify these money pits
Because it’s harder to find an honest homeless person who isn’t on drugs or has some mental issues
@LuneyTune72 Um, actually....NO THE FUKK IT'S NOT!!!!
What you just said is a COMPLETE LIE!!!
I was in those places for almost two years, and those shelters along with how they're run by the social services agencies, is UNSPEAKABLE!
So you have Literally NO BUSINESS posting straight up BS like that if you haven't both SEEN & LIVED through the shelter/homeless system yourself!!
P.S. Some(many) people actually don't make it out the shelters alive. Some of them were my friends.😢
@LuneyTune72 that's not true at all
Exactly. It's like interviewing some white people about what it's like to be black or Asian
@@LuneyTune72Well that's completely UNTRUE
I split up with my husband and had to leave in a hurry and ended up in one of these places..........
I was neither a drug addict at all never touched them in my life nor did I have any mental issues
And let me tell you these HELLHOLES ARE HORRIFIC.
First of all the staff STOLE my nice stuff designer sunglasses, designer watch, jewellery and 500 Dollar shoes.
They abused me and bullied me and once a male member of staff physically hit me!
Don't blame the homeless one bit for preferring to stay on the street most say the same thing I do their experience of these " shelters" are they are exact
I will not stay at a shelter anymore. A few years ago I got my backpack taken from under my head while I was sleeping. It's the people who ruin it. Both the staff and the homeless.
The staff at homeless shelters are often volunteers. I can't fathom complaining about someone who is giving up their time for free for their community. Spare me the sob stories about how "abusive" and "uncaring" they are. Shelters have strict rules (ie- no smoking, no alcohol, no drugs, along with strict curfews and required attendance at church services) and the staff members are there to tell you that if you break those rules, you'll be asked to leave. That's not being abusive, that's doing their job to keep the place as safe and clean as possible.
Shelters are not hotels with room service.
@@sean2015So true... If you want to call your own shots, do it when you can get your own place but as long as you are under someone else's roof, You have to follow their rules... It's like parents always tell their kids.... The rules are in place for everyone and their safety and well being... I've worked in a shelter and have been often villified for doing my job so it's always the people that want to break the rules that complain....
@@ezstreete I'd like to hear more about your experience working at a shelter. Did you ever have to eject or bar someone for breaking one of the rules? I often hear the excuse "shelters are always full" for why people can't seek a bed in one but I know that can't always be true night after night (simple law of averages).
@@sean2015 so what about the part where he said he got his book bag stolen from up under his head… You’re completely avoiding what the he said. As usual if you don’t want to be there, then don’t be there! No one wants your pity because it comes with attitude people want actually gracious people who want to see the world be a better place not little boys and girls who had no choice to be there because they’re trying to get credit on their college record for standing around and ignoring people!
@@sean2015 and some don't work around your work schedule
The shelters are like a pre release prison... That's the real reason why... It's crowded, full of addicts, alcoholics ,snitches , bullies ... being harassed is another problem because of snitches constantly watching you, no privacy .... I been in prison and homeless shelter and it's very similar !!!
At end of the day its a "Jail without bars."
That's where they send inmates once they're released
Plus, they crowd people with serious illnesses amongst healthier people; they can catch contagious diseases.
True, some of them have psychiatric disabilities that cause them to be sadistic and abusive, and they will, as a group, harass one person who is alone. Sometimes, the staff is the same. Everyone there is hostile to you, it makes people so angry that they go out and end up stabbing people or just sleeping on the subway every night. This country, the planet, has an epidemic of antisocial personality disorder and narcissism, and this is the cause of a lot of peoples actions that violate others. It is a public health problem, because their behavior affects the safety of other people. The government ought to do something, I bet you could think of a possible reason why they don’t.
They all steal.
As a formerly homeless person, I can attest to the fact that there can be danger when the homeless are in groups.
FACTS💯 They become feral. Like Lord of the Flies.
👍👍🤕
As someone that was living on the streets for about a year I learned to only go to shelters when it became extremely cold or extremely hot. Shelters tend to favor the severely mentally ill, drug addicts and people right out of prison.
First night at a shelter within 5 mins of getting there had a huge fight break out where they made everyone leave for 2 hours to clean up the blood. 2nd time in a shelter had a guy start accusing everyone of stealing from him and had people just urinating everywhere.
On top of that all the shelters I went to treat the people like criminals but at the same time the ones that are causing the problems and violence are never kicked out since the police tell the shelters not to do it since they don't want to deal with it.
One guy did give me advice and said if you do go to the shelter never leave your stuff alone because everyone will try and steal from you even the staff and if you complain they will just kick you out and ban you since they are just there for a paycheck and don't care about anyone that's there.
Very true...I second that!!
@@johncase1353 I didn't know the staff there was getting paid. I read on other comments that they were there as volunteers 🤔
They steal.
Much higher rates of not wanting to get treated like shit and robbed
Because they’ve made shelters long term-and it’s mentally exhausting to deal with shelter crap for years on out. It IS just like prison. Some people would rather freeze than spend time in shelters: that tells you a lot!
They put their pride over the betterment of themselves. People need to put their egos aside and understand they are at the bottom and will be treated like it until they are not.
They steal.
@@lerm4676shelters do nothing to better a homeless persons life. Not a thing.
@@lerm4676 shut up
Get a new job if you are becoming abusive,this is the population they chose to serve
Shelters are full of abusive staff. You’re already homeless you don’t want people in positions of power preying on you.
Staff are Very Evil I was Explaining my situation to them bc the Train Was late ..staff Wrote me up claiming I cussed at them..I Never Cussed at staff . Ever. They plot evil Against you . I used to work at Two shelters. Our supervisor wad a Christian man he would never allow staff to mistreat the clients & he would give people off the street a job.
I call it ..Shelter God Complex Syndrome
Bingo
Exactly
NOT ALL OF THEM.
I've been treated better in jail than the shelters.
Facts
Jails let you do drugs and don't require you to work.
Brutal. Should turn to Christ who offers abundant life, everlasting where no evil thing is or will be.
@@JP-uk9uc and affordable home?
@@soud986 turn to Christ and get invisible gifts 🤣
I think we need to look at the homeless situation in every country and make a plan while taking everything into consideration. This problem isn't going to fix itself, and we depend on our communities for survival. If we don't work together, society will fall apart. This topic deserves more attention.
Forced labor.
@@TVHouseHistorian That doesn't feel right though... Maybe with free room and board with meals provided? Wait, this sounds like prison...
@@jessicajohnston5693 sounds reasonable to me. The homeless population serve to destroy the foundation of freedom this country was built on. Street living should be criminalized.
@@TVHouseHistorian does that include the women and children running away from abuse (a choice to get beat up/to death or raped or become homeless is not a choice)? The seniors who get priced out of a place to live despite working all their lives and saving for retirement? The disabled people living on an insufficient disability check? Or maybe that should include someone like me who ended up homeless because of an act Of God called a hurricane. I didn't choose to be homeless I don't want to be homeless and I didn't earn It by bad choices. Once more I don't do drugs I'm not an alcoholic and I not only will work but I have a real job as a tree climber/job site foreman. FYI you don't get to be a job site foreman by being lazy showing up late drunk high making poor choices etc you get there by being responsible smart and hard working. I think they/I deserve better than concentration camps, labor camps, or prison.
It's a catch twenty two situation if you try to use a one size fits all solution. All hard on the homeless and the decent people who didn't choose or earn homelessness suffer undeservingly (aka cruel and unusual punishment). All easy and lazy bums addicts thieves vandals etc get to take advantage. That's the problem. Most of society just wants to treat the whole homeless population as all criminals pariahs and modern day lepers. The biggest problem with that is anyone who falls on hard times and wants to do the right thing working and earning their own way and not causing a problem will only end up suffering more and have getting out of homelessness made that much harder for them.
Fun fact. There might be a few beds open in shelters but you still can't fit the whole homeless population (620,000+) in shelters (there are only 350,000 beds total in the us). There might have been a hundred beds in shelters but how many homeless people were there around. I'd bet it was more than 100. This is a classic case of the media using suggestive wording to manipulate people's belief/understanding. Saying that there was 100 beds available in shelters suggesting all the homeless could just go to a shelter. They conveniently forgot to mention the divide between the numbers of homeless people and the number of beds in shelters let alone that a shelter is not necessarily a safe place.
Think about two things.
First, most people believe the homeless population is mostly addicts crazies etc (failing to or refusing to acknowledge the homeless disabled, elderly, woman and children working homeless etc) but they somehow think/fail to recognize that these shelters house the very same homeless people that they think avoid shelters for drugs and alcohol or because they are crazy. The homeless on the outside of shelters are not all bad and those on the inside are not all good. The crazies addicts etc also go to stay in shelters though not all of them.
Second drugs alcohol and weapons get into maximum security prisons with extreme security (including strip searches 12 ft tall razor wire topped fencing armed guard towers etc) so what makes you think the same things don't get into shelters with a half rear bag check and rent a cop security guards?
Look up "homeless shelters UNDERREPORT INCIDENTS" online and you'll find countless examples of documentaries and news articles who documented (as in seen and recorded) that shelters are often not safe or drug and alcohol free. Not to mention how cities and officials lie about how homeless shelters are a godsend and safe haven.
Nobody takes everything into consideration though. You, while trying your hardest, still haven't
We want a place to sleep, not a place to be kept up all night by the staff and druggies.
But the druggies are also homeless and want a place to sleep.
That Part
@@ebiewah3113they need to act civil and be respectful of others so people with jobs can have rest
@@Anony584 true
@@Anony584 facts, and don’t listen to moreay. He/she’s just another Leftist apologist clown making excuses for these bums.
Wish there was a system that shelters use to keep the other problematic people seperated. Like who had the brilliant idea of keeping all the potentially abusive and disruptive people, all in the same room as the harmless and vulnerable people as they slept.
JAIL we have a place for violent meth heads it's called jail. Idk why it's controversial. If I drink and drive and hurt someone I'm accountable for drinking in the first place.
In a time and setting in which AI is a thing you’d think we’d have a stronger understanding of how to manage emergency shelters and all matter of resources to keep people within a safe haven
@@TheOther12523 it’s a homeless shelter. This is the gutter. They throw people in when they can’t pay their way. Dignity? Privacy? Decency? Cleanliness? Enjoyable company?
Service? Comfort? Fairness? Justice?
All the forementioned are for paying customers.
The most abusive ppl at shelters are usually the staff. So. You propose to separate the staff from the clients & expect the staff to be honest & report to you personally if they disobey the rules? Great plan buddy 🙄
@@DD-ms4zr who told you there are no drugs in jail?
Every homeless person worth their salt knows shelters are dirty dangerous and just like prison
They are in some way worst than prison
@@annarey7518 at least u have freedom lol prison takes away that I agree they suck but prison is worst in almost every way
@@dlz190 Do you think homeless people really have freedom?
@@annarey7518 no but like a lil more then people in jail
@@annarey7518 They can go where they want to go and do what they want to do. They're not locked behind a barbed wire fence, or a man pointing an m16 at them if they try to leave. Yes, homeless people have more freedom. What a stupid a question.
Some people stay outside because of the horrible treatment they get in tbe shelter from the uneducated and judgemental staff that instead of trying to spread dignified care instead feel powerful and superior to the client and exercise demoralizing and arrogant abuse by their behavior.
Exactly the think they are god because they know you have nowhere to go.
The whole truth
They do be on power trips and ego gratification.
I'm Done with ALL shelters. Never Again..Staff have Shelter God Complex Syndrome 🤮👎👎
Staff think they all powerful and shxxt hell naw fuk wit it gonna be a whole different story
I was homeless and I chose not to sleep in the shelter. No peace around some of the people. Single room homeless shelters. Where you are able to work and get reestablished is what we need.
i agree 100%
What you need is a sanitarium but you won't take it because you're greedy and asking for too much
How did you get single room shelter ? And yes they don’t wanna help you they don’t even get to know you fr and your needs the just through you in a room
With other ppl sad foreal
Agreed!!!
I was homeless but it really depends on the type of shelter for me there are four types of shelters 1. Clean safe and great staffing 2. Prison like atmosphere and non caring staff
3. Progressive program to help with jobs life planing and housing afterwards
4.a place to just sleep until the next not bad not good just indifferent a tax write off
What they have here falls under 3. Progressive Shelters always the best in my book
Keep in mind that these folks on the street were once somebodies' children and if you are religious, god's children. I've been following this issue since 1982, an issue with longer roots than that. I can't believe that we, the USA has not come up with a solution yet.
Who would want to be crammed in a room like that?
The vast majority of shelters are toxic places for the vast majority of the homeless. As someone that was homeless many times in some horrid conditions even when tempted to try to use a shelter within minutes of going in I would leave out of fear for my own safety. That is the reality of your tax money being wasted on bad short term solutions for a serious long term problem.
Reminder... If you are not at the shelter a 5PM, or maybe 6PM, you ain't getting in.
People freeze to within a block of a shelter, because if you aren't there for the sermon, you ain't getting in.
Then they will kick you out at 6AM (the coldest time of day) to go "look for work".
[at the end of the video she states "Cincinnati's homeless shelters are open from 7PM to 6AM" Meaning that you are too late after 7PM and they will kick you ass out at 6AM, while it is still dark]
That's not how my shelter runs at all? That's really strange to picture, where I work here in Canada there is definitely never a sermon because that would be pretty culturally insensitive, I imagine maybe one that's church run might but not the government funded ones. Also maybe it's just due to how cold it gets up here but ours is 24/7 and you're always welcome to come in and get food/coffee regardless of time the only exception is for people popping in and out for smokes every hour all night than we tell them quiet time is 11pm to 6am so they need to choose in or out.
@@badgamers5065 most shelters in the US are church ran so that’s why they push sermons on them.
@@Anony584 yeah and they fucking suck. I've been to more sermons than most Christian people. You also won't get a meal if you don't go to the sermon first. As I got older I found that there are easier ways to get food and shelter on the street than going to a shelter.
I was in a wet shelter and got out of there fast. I would rather walk a highway.
How did you get out if you don’t mind me asking ? I’m in one now I’m just trying my best to hang on till my housing assistance come
That's not true...get your facts straight....not all homeless people are on drugs and mentally Ill....There are some people if excellence there trying to get a new start...or with a job ready and have a plan to do better....Sone only need a fee for an ID just to go apply for that job....So, get all the facts before you put people in a category.
True, and I know from experience as a houseless person (sleeping my van)that not all of us are drug addicts or whinos, or anything but just need a new start
Many of these comments are ingnorant people
@DivineBliss thanks for the honesty and don't waste your time with the shelter, they have no respect for people, your a number to them
I'm 49 years old and by the Grace of God working an old job I left
Over 2 years ago because of the COVID-19 Scam
It took me a long time to find employment and going back to my old employment wasn't
Really a thought but at least I'm able to keep my van on the road
God will make a way
Unfortunately because of the work schedule, I can't find a second job
Sleep at the local truck stop at night and work during the day
Keep saving your money, things are getting worse for us poor folks
No joke
Hang in there, it's going to be an interesting time soon
@@SheepofTheShepherd-nu3lz bless you...I've been there many times
The main reason we choose to camp _outside_ in Santa Cruz County California right now is that we are totally abstinent, and the City of Santa Cruz third-party managed shelters are drug dens where residents use meth and fentanyl, sometimes with staff. This is such common knowledge on the streets here that a meth dealer-addict who was afraid of the Sheriffs once proclaimed to us, "I'm going to the Armory [shelter] because you can do drugs there!"
The second reason we camp outside rather than stay in the City of Santa Cruz shelters is that we've had our Bipolar Type I in full remission for five years due to a simple daily medication regimen that took three years of working monthly with a private Stanford educated psychiatrist to finesse, and the City shelters are filled with people who are on the Bipolar - Schizoaffective - Schizophrenic spectrum and so whacked out because they refuse to take meds that we simply don't want to be around them.
The third reason we will not live in a City of Santa Cruz shelter is that we need our Acer Chromebook and our Samsung Galaxy to get a job, housing, and pick up our 4.0 in nonprofit management at university where we left off before becoming homeless, and we don't need an angry, low paid, nonprofit shelter staff person to steal our gear to spite us for our success.
Governor Newsom can go blow the 25 billion California tax dollars wasted on his homeless programs in the past five years up his ***.
Simple answer: even the homeless don’t want to be around other homeless.
If you want homelessness low the only way to do is to keep these shelters save for them to stay if we actually listen to the homeless people you will understand why they refused to stay most get rob from there stuff some get killed and yet no one does a dam thing and you expect them to stay there
I avoided shelters bcuz of predators.
I don't understand people who say they refuse to go to a shelter because it's "unsafe", and yet they'll sleep in a moving subway train or in a tent in subzero weather underneath a freeway overpass, exposed to the elements and rats.
@@sean2015 that should tell you just how bad shelters are, people who rather risk it in the streets vs these terrible places
@@rustyshackleford4801 well not exactly Rusty. You didn't get the gist of what I was trying to say. I always hear the excuse from bleeding heart Leftists that "shelters are full". Baloney. They are not full every single night of the year. The real issue is that most shelters have RULES, such as: no smoking, no drinking, no drugs, as well as strict curfews and the requirement to look for a job. Most street people have a substance addiction problem and are unwilling (let alone unable) to live by those rules, so they choose instead to sleep on the streets. Still others are just anti-social, paranoid, etc., and will refuse help even if someone approaches them to offer it.
@@sean2015 its sounds like you have programmed a few concepts in your mind to think about people like that. If youve ever been homeless with absolutley no one to fall back on then youd understand what people are saying. About the curfew thing.......if a job has a conflicting schedule or a schedule not exactly set in stone then a lot of shelters "strict rules" would prevent you from making money to pull yourself out of your situation. It sounds like you cant look past whatever ideas you have about homeless people to hear what they have to say or any concerns they may have. It sounds like you feel as if becuase they are homeless or have issues that you cant understand or relate to that you feel as if they dont deserve the help or proper courtesy. Ive personally have had something as petty as MULTI-VITAMINS missing out of my pack that I had that was supposed to be locked up according to thier rules ( which means the staff was responsible for the missing pills). When I inquired about what was missing I got yelled at and no one was nice about it.
@@MrJames-te4bw first of all, let's set straight the definition of "homeless". There are many people who are homeless who are couch surfing or living out of trailers, cars, vans, etc., and showering at the gym but hold down full-time jobs and are otherwise clean and sober individuals. They choose to sleep in cars or whatever because they live in expensive areas where they can't afford housing, such as Southern California.
I've lived out of my car as well. So yes I've technically been "homeless", even if it was only for a short time. But it was my choice. I could've gone to live with my parents and slept in their basement, but I chose not to.
These "homeless" people are DIFFERENT from the "street people" who actually live on the streets and sleep in trains, train stations, airports or sometimes inside ATM lobbies. THOSE people are so screwed up from drugs that are unable to seek help for themselves, and many will reject help offered to them other than hard cash so they can buy dugs or booze. I've volunteered at a shelter and we have had to remove such people for things like fighting, stealing, assaulting, and shooting up, etc.,
So I just want to get the definition of "homeless" straight before I debate with you any further.
H 2:04 2:04 homeless shelters everywhere should be open in the day time, provide skill-building activities like wood working/carpentry, safe food handling and food prep skills for both personal diet and food service careers, provide GED tutors and educational and literature materials for those who want the help in the moment, etc. It’s also a shame that so many shelters kick people out into the elements at 6 or 7am in the mornings, regardless of the climate or weather patterns. So many people have nowhere to go in the day time. If anything, 6-7am should be WakeUp hour, 7-8am should be the breakfast and pack-up hour, and then 9-5 there should different tasks and activities for people to do if they don’t want to leave in the daytime. It would help so many more people be able to develop new habits and safe living skills so they can have a chance of succeeding more often in life, and less time in the day to use illegal substances or act the fool out in public. The doors should be open in the daytime. Those who work odd hours should have a ticket to get in the door for a reserved bed if they get off work at a later time. Couples should be able to stay together, albeit maybe in separate beds but sharing a cubicle with two beds in it. Not all shelters should mandate or enforce people to sleep in bunk beds like they’re little kids, these are grown adults who deserve better than kid-sized bunk beds. Shelters should look into college-dorm-room furniture, like XL-twin adult beds (standard height at 2-3ft from floor to mattress), and office cubicle dividers to section off individual sleeping spaces. I once stayed a shelter that threw 4ft long kid-sized nap pads, all frayed and and beat up, less than 1” thick due to wear and tear, on the floor for women to sleep on. It didn’t make a difference between floor and not-floor. I had a yoga mat with me that was more comfortable than that flimsy vinyl ancient rag they told me was a “temporary bed”. Ya right. Another shelter had prison style metal bunk beds with rounded rungs on the ladders that hurt my feet and knees, I was assigned to the top bunk while the occupant of the lower bunk never showed up for more than a few minutes before leaving again, using it for storage and getting away with it. The only plus side was I had storage on a window sill for my personal items. They banned men and women from talking to each other and didn’t allow anyone to stay inside past 9am until 5pm. No activities or safe things for folks to do to stay out of trouble, so everyone there was a tweaker out on sidewalks until they could go back inside. It was awful. That’s not the way to help people get better, you’re just assigning chores, banning people from talking to their spouses or siblings, and treating grown adults like naive children who need bunk beds instead of adult single beds, and then expecting them to fix their own problems in the day time without any help or oversight. That’s certainly NOT the way, either.
I'd rather fend for myself than be treated like a prisoner waiting for his turn
Hi all as a 56 year old Australian man i was homeless for 5 years ,
I only spent 4 days at a shelter i personally would rather live under a small bridge it is a whole lot Safer ,
I now own an RV (It was left to me from a family member that passed away i am very lucky :>}
Rob
NSW
Australia
I was homeless...loves the idea of an RV...good for you and stay safe ❤
Yep❤
Thank you to everyone. Living life the best I can .help anyone when I can .
In a small town on the NSWcoast Australia at the moment. EVerone is so friendly. God bless all
Ask yourself, do you want to sleep in a homeless shelter? If the answer is no then don’t expect others to either.
It is sad that every agency representative blamed the homeless for their negligence and failure to maintain humane conditions at their shelters. Instead of admitting they failed an individual and it resulted in his death is sickening absolutely sad!!
@@moreayf2319 towels cost $3 at Target, these bums who panhandle make easily $100 in a day (tax-free money)
@@sean2015 Bums yet you chose to volunteer with them? Clearly you have no respect for these people so tell me, what were your ACTUAL motivations for "volunteering" you
POS?
I've been living in my van for 2 yrs in Massillon would never stay at homeless shelter in Canton or Akron
Put the proper training in place to deal with the spectrum of homelessness. My issue is dealing with services that will treat you less than when you need assistance. It's pretty sick, but people have accustomed themselves to think that people are just self-entitled to begging or getting help and overall disrespectful for asking for help. Im going to keep pursuing my plan but just because I'm in this position doesn't give you the right to disregard that I'm actually working towards a goal. There's so many of us out here too doing the same. Like I know I'm gonna have to give back to the cause, and that's final. I've been asking for service that is more empathetic towards the progression of these lives. It saddens me for a second but I have to let it go and work though it. I myself do not want to wake up in my car, still looking for work I wake everyday before 730 to get up and go look for jobs while producing my personal work for business purposes. Reform these jobs man. They need real training to begin with.
For 1 they kick you out at 6 or 7 am bed bugs they don't give you any bus fair force religion on you 4 times a day you have to check in at certain time regardless if you got a job
I was homeless the snoring was so bad in the shelters; I stayed up some nights and slept on the subway bench in the stations. they should not pack people together like sardines and wake them up 5:30 am when it takes them 2 hours to get to sleep. it wears them down.
thats the problem 7pm to 6am they dont want to get up out off a warm bed and go out into the cold it a pain in the uu then when they find a place to make a little tent or something it time to pack up and go hoping there room for them i dont understand why you cant get money togther and make tiny houses for them give them a reason to do better the ones that can
They should stop building homeless shelters becouse they are a waste of money becouse you cant live in homeless shelters people aviod homeless shelters becouse they dont want to be around crowds of people not becouse of mental illness in some cases they need to concentrate on building affordable houseing and if some homeless cannot afford houseing then there needs to special funds put aside to help with affordable houseing , lady fowler
Because sometimes the shelters are worse than the streets. Please don't act like we actually get a choice at all.
I had a friend who hated black people and I asked her why and she said "Its because they abuse kids and think its ok." Then I asked her Why she believes that and she said "Because I was abused by black people as a kid and watched this family abuse their own kids like it was no big deal." I told her, "Sounds like you have had bad experiences with black people but do you think that other black people you meet might be nice?" My point here is this was a learning experience for her and I. I realized that hate is born from fear and so did she. I wanted to pass that on because a lot of people assume all homeless people are alcoholic and just do not want to work and are free loaders. It may be that they are just afraid of the ones they dont know because of the bad experiences they had with the ones they do or did know. Also for the record I dont believe that because a person has an addiction that it makes them less human or less worthy of being loved. It means they need help thats it. My kids and I were homeless and it had nothing to do with not wanting to work or being an addict btw. I am a hard working single disabled mom who was shown much less love of mercy then any human should have to experience in their life time. I know this is long but I hope some people had time to read it and that it helps someone today. God Bless!
The staff literally STOLE all my stuff, im never going back in one of those!
These kind of safeguards in the shelters should always be in place. Protection of belongings important
It's not just about having a roof. You need a **safe** roof over your head. Homeless shelters are filled with staff that mostly possess a huge God Complex. Little to no support but lots of unnecessary micro management. Filthy conditions. No pathways to facilitate employment..
because they make money off you being unemployed.
It's hard to understand unless you have been through it yourself.
I’m in danger of being homeless because I don’t have enough savings. Sadly I paid off almost all my bills except student loans and only will have a 620 credit score after. Also have a full time job and I just can’t make enough money to live
I hope you make it!
Dont pay thr students loan
God be with you friend.
Nah, even we who are not addicts or such don't want to be crammed in with no real privacy and potentially obnoxious humans to deal with. You don't have to be an addict to be unpleasant to live with.
I actually agree on the many homeless in tents, not wanting to be in a shelter. Everyone in it has some kind of weapon and there are no security guards. It is more safer outside then inside a shelter for that reason.
Why don't they don't talk about the fact the there are some homeless people that work part time or full time yet in order to get a bed you have to be at the shelter at a certain time of day and so that leaves some people with 2 options. Option A: quit your job or miss work just to secure a bed or B: go to work to try to get yourself back on your feet and risk not having a roof over your head at night. It's an awful predicament for one to be in
My Mom always said go to work if you want anything. Not working was not a option.
Shelters are too crowded and don't provide individual necessities.
IN RI I'm homeless with Asperger's and PTSD. No addiction of any kind. I just can't stand the ignorance of others including my own family.
How are you now ? I’m
Going through similar 😢
I'm with you there. Also homeless and autistic
It really gets to your mental health I would rather sleep in car and just go to shelter to eat and shower.
I agree, being in the shelter i found out that I have anxiety and may have PTSD due to being harassed by staff/security.
I know somebody that had to go to a shelter because of financial reasons but he tells me it's horrible in there, he's in a room with 50 beds and does not get no sleep and he works all day and has a curfew and they kick you out at 7 AM in the morning.. And the food is disgusting he mentioned also toilet paper and yes u hve to buy ur own.. And don't be surprised if you work and come back and your stuff will be stolen..smh
To suggest that an individual would rather stay outside in freezing temperatures is outrageous!!
And alot of times they are mistreated in those shelters.
Staff is Hell!!
Yes I’m in it now it is rough it’s unfortunate cause it’s like jail and those people who are vulnerable and civilized don’t get the proper help cause other give it a bad look messes up everything
government is out of control when is the abuse gonna stop
The Shelters are horrible, wake up at 5am lock the doors at 8pm, meals consisted of beans and rice and expired food from Walmart, People sleeping on mats on the floor inches from each other, cold air coming in thru broken windows, showers cold most of the time at very low pressure, ration 3 squares of toilet paper, feces and mucus smeared on the walls. People donate clothes and toiletry items, employees of the shelters get first dibs. You have 2 week time limit and resources for housing is a 2 plus year waiting list. Organizations that might help you require you to travel to them, which is impossible when you have no money for bus fare. And on top of that getting sick all the time and your stuff getting shuffled through and stolen. Your only allowed to have 2 bags of items all of your other stuff can not come in so kiss it goodbye. that is just a little bit of the beautiful shelters, everyone says go to the shelters but never been in one, Just drive by a shelter and walk in and look
These so called shelters are usually next to jails
You are absolutely right. Austin, TX is a prime example of that. Thank GOD I left that shithole right before the shitstorm.
Criminals target homeless going to shelters offer them $ to return stolen items to stores and sutch things like that
You hardly get to keep anything , they tell you what you need, even though you don't do drugs or drink....you get scapegoated , too !
Primavera in Tucson they don't even run their HVAC. 80 beds in a confined space. 80 ppls skin ,cloths ,bunk shedding. Air quality is so bad. Everyone gets chest infections
I worked in the Investigations Unit of the NYC Shelter system for a long time. You want murderers, rapists, pedophiles, drug dealers, hookers, gang members and psychos ? Well, I had them. It was just like working in the joint minus the cornholeing. How many days did I see blood on the floor? How many guys got taken out in a body bag? Welcome to "Little Sing Sing".. Glad I'm retired
Okay, so the issue may be that the homeless are scared of social ostracism. This can stem from an abusive childhood and drug abuse. The real dilemma is then to BOTH provide for these people financially and provide mental support and trauma therapy.
This is definitely the truth, 90% of people on drugs was because of trauma
Sane homeless know not to go into a shelter.
Crammed in with thieves and druggies, what meager possessions you have will get rooted through.
Staff don't care.
Because people be in there stealing & watching you 👀 waiting for you to drop your gaurd. You gotta be on ps & qs. And stay on mission at ALL times. Or them shelters will eat you alive.
I myself was homeless in and out of shelters, so many shelters would give me difficult times over medications, the few personal possessions I had or my work schedule as I worked for UPS every night I could in the warehouse
They gang stalk me out of every shelter.
Non profit just means hire friends and family with high income. I always notice all the expensive new cars of the staff and management down my street. Often they resemble a new economic sector. Build affordable housing would solve this issue. This one has 17 employees and only 30 clients. I know a scam when I see one.
Youd be surprised how many shelters have abuse and inappropriate behaviors especially towards women. Another thing is homeless people who have items like military medals, valuables with sentimental meaning, or self defense items like knives have these items taken and never returned.
Yes I am in a shelter now which has both men and women in it it’s not good at all
I am in one right now it’s so sad . Imagine being homeless trying to get out of there but you have other homeless people who are bullies and do drugs all day and yell day and night . You already going through the worst part of your life but then you have some staff most of them and other homeless people there who make the stay even more uncomfortable and toxic ! We all sign papers saying we promise to not Harrass nor bully somebody but yet they do it ! If you come into a shelter you need to have a relationship with Jesus Christ other wise you won’t make it and I’m
Not talking about going to church you need to know Jesus cause he is your true strength and helper but gotta stay with him and do your best to avoid these people .
Maybe let’s have a shelter where people have to take care of themselves and gave privacy and dignity? You can’t expect someone to work if they have nothing positive to come back to. This is a lousy excuse for helping others. We need to do better for all.
Those have extreme mental illness need to be place in proper care facilities or group homes that are licensed and regularly monitoring to ensure their safety. Property that have been abandoned by owners can be renovated to house families and disabled and veterans who need to get their compensation or apply for their benefits or reestablish their benefits so they can get into affordable apartments or houses they can rent.
The only problem is who is gonna fund it. Is ur goverment willing to fund it or community
Anyone else starting to feel like its becoming 1920s Germany. Not quite 1940s yet but were getting there😂
was homeless 6 times in my life. ive had more trouble and setbacks staying in the shelters because of the sheer abundence of constant disorder and chaos. you cant find a job or get anything done bc its damn near impossible to sleep. ppl steal from you right off your person while you sleep too.
the staff are barred or simply unwilling to keep order and punish those who try to stand up against the known criminal elements in the shelters.
thankfully for me, i always had a healthy interest in winter camping and army surplus gear. storage lockers are a good place to stock your own things until you can find a rooming house. army surplus gear is top knotch and nobody wants to usually mess with a hobo in full camo. the gear is extremely useful in winter and i had better results going to the edge of town and back with my ruck than using the shelters.
Clearly shelters aren't a solution to the problem.
Rule #1 > avoid other homeless people,,
Rule #2 > see rule
#1,,, ask me how I know
All true stay far away from
Them it’s rare you will find a nice homeless ppl I never realized how cold they could be but I guess too this whole system is just evil gotta protect your mind body soul and spirit
More freedom than in shelters being on trains if you stay clean and keep good conduct....and in parks when you have the survival tools. Higher rate of mental health can be in high places as politicians too.
I pray to God everyday that my wife and I get out of this place weve been stuck in for thebpast two years and into an apartment as soon as possible. Notiing but trashy meth head fentanyl addicts who are just not even mentally stable evough to pick up after themselves or respect other people in here. We have been clean for a coupel years and just want to be shwon the same human respects we showneverypne else. We dont go in other peoples area or throw garvage and urine dog poop etc bear peoples tiny homes, we are in bed at normal hours because we are up early for college daily. But of course that isnnot reciprocated. And the staff could careless thatvpeople openly smoke drugs in the aisles of this tony home shelter. It is a joke. If you want to do that go out into the street where clearly these people still want to be. Makes it infuriating at times for the few people who are really trying ro get on there feet
So true I’m in shelter now it’s bad yep drugs loud fights also this shelter I’m at has animals here it’s horrible . I wouldn’t wish those on anyone however because of all that you’re going through just remain up and keep fighting there’s a huge blessing for those who don’t entertain the drugs and fight and trust in God keep praying and follow what he is saying he is leading his people into huge harvests and overflows and those who are wicked and do bad will be cut off please be safe prayers for your family
Staff mostly are controllers that’s who are in these positions not really many people who are empathetic it’s very rare and usually these people end up quitting 😢
Why don't the holiday make the politicians just make the landlord stop raising the damn rent
How can those top bunks be safe there's no barrier to prevent you from falling.
It’s the fact that those homeless programs don’t really help and they they have people they don’t care of help just they to make problems for the people who really want help I should know for experience there is a good reason we people don’t what to go after all and I am saying of the shelters who are no good fact’s
If you're a strapping young male who knows how to handle yourself in a "jail like" environment, sure give it a try.
LMAO thanks for the advice. I'm here searching for tips before going into a homeless shelter nearby.
I been to jail and survived but now I'm in shelter and I rather go back to jail
At least in jail you can get some rest 😴
@@stevenbahena5956 same bro think I rather get a tent and live off the grid solo is the way to go
There are other reasons people don't like homeless shelters. They can be dangerous.
They’re very dangerous not safe so unfournate you going through the worst part of your life just to end up around strangers who are evil
They don't bother telling you that it's not free to stay in any shelter for men.
HOW comfortable can You be sleeping (in a shelter) around some random STRANGERS....
The reason why some avoid it because they rob others stuff and taking something that’s not theirs, also it’s the increasing rent monthly I’ve been there it’s heard on news nyc and some areas in different states must put it 200.00 to 500.00 monthly rent
Its just as scary inside these days with technology..
Shelters are horrible they are almost like jails. Also, also a lot of the homeless have their pets and shelters. Don’t allow people bringing pets.
Some reasons that are rampant city and state wide: frail, ill, disabled, and elderly residents abused and preyed upon by both staff and other residents, financial exploitation - in the form of being forced to hand over benefit checks, food stamps, etc. and even forced to panhandle, young women being sexually trafficked with the full knowledge ( and sometimes participation) of staff, forced labor - including the severely disabled and chronicaly ill/ freshly operated, etc. drug use and trafficking rampant by both staff and other residents, ( if someone chooses to not be a part of this, they are targeted) violence - including assault, rape, rampant theft... And all of this overlooked and swept under the rug by local police and news media. ( because of widespread corruption and a " good ' ol boy" network) This is the daily fare in various cities in Texas and New Mexico - it has been ongoing for years with no relief in sight, because the problems are so deeply entrenched. No wonder many prefer to camp outside - but this is not feasible for elderly, sick, etc. especially in 105+ degree heat, or in the winter. Pro Bono lawyers and activists need to address this - but the won't!
I've heard most of the shelters are not safe
Unfair , bigoted, abusive places !
I have been homeless before and I refused to stay in shelters even when the weather was in the negatives. I chose to stay away from the shelters because I didn't want to be around all of the drama not because of drugs or a mental disorder. People like this are why all homeless people get thrown into the same classification "oh they're all drug addicts" or "Oh they all have mental problems" bologna! Get your facts straight. And some shelters can be dangerous depending on where they are located. And I couldn't sleep in them anyway too many people snoring all night.
Exactly❤️
@@ashleykindheartministries The last shelter that I stayed in I was taking a shower and another guy tried to come into the shower stall with me and we ended up getting into a fight.
After seeing what some shelters look like I dont blame ppl look like hostel rooms
I know I did, when I was homeless. For many reasons. Not the reasons people usually think of, or the media tries to portray
City shelters are nasty mean and not safe too be in if your a senior homeless person.
The workers in the shelter are mean I stay in motels
We should've have homeless people in the USA 🇺🇸 no excuses no solution at all I don't believe in God becauses of this situation!
I acquired a mental illness inside the homeless shelter.
Shelters are horrible places. Too many rules, I knew someone who got raped and another who got robbed plus mental patients ect
I'm currently going through this now and it sucks that I can't do nothing about it. I've made complaints to dhs and they did nothing but believe the shelter staff. this shelters stole my food that I bought which sucks because I don't eat the food they provide.
Because it's horrible and they don't allowed pets
My "sister" wanted me to come live with her,,, BUT my cat wasn't welcome,, no thank's,, if my cat ain't welcome then neither am i..
I am leaving the shelter god will provide for me
Maybe the strict rules and they wanted to work at night which conflicted with being in a shelter by a certain time.
I don't blame them