Dorman 926-876 Aluminum Chrysler 3.2/3.6 Oil Filter and Cooler Housing Upgrade
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In this video we cover the issues with the Chrysler oil filter/cooler adaptors and the new option from Dorman products thats designed to fix these issues. We also talk about the pros and cons as well.
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Plastic - saving manufacturers millions, costing their customers billions.
Every brand does it…..glad to see other companies making another option
Sad part about this is they use cheap parts and then it cost $50,000 to buy a rubicon…..
Lol so true
Cutting corners like this costs them far more in reputation than the dollars and cents saved on the assembly line. Never buying another jeep again.
@@tdz69 Good luck finding another brand that doesn't do the same thing.
Recently, Dorman has a newer version (926-959) that includes new Oil Cooler as well as Oil Filter/Filter Cap that can be installed on a Gen 1 Pentastar. Only the 2 sensors would need to be bought separately.
yes i just looked up the part on their site and it now includes the 2013 durango so now i'm about to order this
Thanks, grabbing one asap!
I was thinking to go to pick n pull take a 2014 style oil cooler and combine it with dorman part
Just bought the new version 926-959 for my 2012 wrangler. The actual housing is stamped with part number 926-876. I assume that both kits use the same housing with the exception of the oil cooler and the filter cap?
@@redeemed2517 The 926-959 part adds the Oil Cooler and Filter Cap.
I installed this Dorman 926-876 Upgraded Oil Filter / Cooler Housing Kit (ebay) to my 2013 JKU Wrangler (28 Oct 2021). After watching MotorCity Mechanic’s vid: To Upgrade or Not To Upgrade your 2011-2013 3.6 oil filter housing/cooler.
No problems with fitment whatsoever!
Direct drop-in! 😁🤙🏽
I also purchased a used 2014 Housing (Complete assy; Just needed the cooler & filter cap) from ebay & transferred the cap & cooler to the Dorman housing with the OE hardware & kit supplied cooler seals.
Aloha! Craig A 😁🤙🏽
I’m surprised this wasn't mentioned in the vide. I’m thinking about doing the same thing.
Dorman came out with a new kit that includes the assembly, o-rings, bolts AND gen2 cooler (helps to retrofit to gen1 engine), they even include the oil cap. The cap has a nice reminder plaque that you need to be using a 2015 oil filter, even if your engine is 2011-2013. Part # 926-959.
Thanks for the heads up about this Dorman 926-876. Just finished installing it on a 2014 Chrysler 200 S. It fit perfectly and seems to be a high quality part. No more leaks and no more check engine light. When cleaning all of the fluid from "the valley", be sure to suck the oil out of those threaded holes where the oil filter and cooler housing bolt into or the fluid will pressurize as you tighten the bolt which could throw off the torque reading or even strip the threads of the block.
Thanks David! I really appreciate your time and effort detailing MOPAR vehicle repairs, your channel is terrific!
Many thanks for those kind words......Its greatly appreciated
Thanks David! I've been using these kits for awhile now on many customers vehicles, and I have not had any issues. In a world where you have to be very selective of the type of parts you use (avability and quality) this is definitely a good product.
Glad to hear you have good results as well.
Easily the worst design for such a common engine. And to bury this failure prone part so deep into an engine is almost criminal.
I beg to differ...the 4 litre inline 6 in older jeeps is as close to perfection in an engine out there.
SUPER IMPORTANT: David, you need to do a video on where the o-ring in the filter cap goes. Put it on the bottom land, and it will leak JUST like a failed cooler assembly. Early in ownership (at 1.8 million miles on pentastars currently) this happened to me twice, and dishonest/incompetent dealers helped themselves to $1000 of my money each time!
Fantastic video, as always!
So make sure to install it on the top?
@@saitekina_og9271 Search my name on youtube, I made a video about it. Title has Vital Knowledge in it.
"1.8 million miles", that engine must have been built on Wednesday! Monday is high absenteeism day, Tuesday folks still are recovering from the weekend, Thursday is Friday eve with grown and sexy night at the lounge, and Friday is party time (at work of course). But Wednesday is hump day people have accepted that they have to be at work and they are happy that the workweek is halfway over, so they really work well.
@@tking780 Ha! Actually, that 1.8 million is spread over 3 vans. Historically, the engines are good to mid 500,000 miles. They still run fine, but they are a little down on power and mpg by then.
@@kipamore That's still kool.
I had a GM engineer neighbor who said that the production engineers are the culprits by taking the designer's original "perfect" plan specs and modifying it to reduce weight and the cost of production. What starts as a really good design gets compromised before it gets to the line. The next level is the manufacturing process that will sometimes cause a flaw/overstress a delicate part during assembly and a problem rolls off the line to be realized by the customer. The increasing number of recalls across the whole industry proves this point. Even Toyota, once revered as the poster child for quality has recently produced batches of v6 engines with metal shavings left in the oil passages causing bearing failure.
For a couple of decades I've been curious who exactly some of my rage should go to lol. I've tried my best to keep my stuff up and running instead of just getting new
if there is one thing i've learned in the past 20 years is that made in USA means nothing anymore .
My wife had a 2013 Wrangler. Had an oil leak. Was not going to put the crappy plastic OFS back on. Bought the Doorman 2014 OFA for it. Plus a new 2014 cooler that would fit on this new housing.. New sensors. Install was easy. So new OFA and Cooler. $200. I also bought a 2014 filter for assembly but used the old 2013 cap. Pulled the guts out of the cap. Works just fine.
I also bought Baxter Performance adapter for the OFA. So running a Royal Purple inverted Oil filter. No dry starts anymore.
So the Doorman OFA does work with the 2013 3.6 Penstar. Just have to buy a 2014 cooler and gaskets.
It does must isn’t cost affective to do. But Dorman came out with another version since the video that includes everything to make it a one size fits all no matter the year
That is great. Thanks for the reply. Haven't had any issues with the upgraded housing or the new cooler. With the new OFA $156 and the cooler $50-$60 plus the new 14 sensors from the dealer ship...$270 total. The Baxter Performance adaptor was $330.
Awesome, so the Dorman oil cooler housing is compatible with the Baxter cartridge to spin on adapter?
Thanks for all of the great content! Love your channel. For anyone looking, Dorman now offers a kit ( part#926-959) for the Gen1 Pentastar 3.6L oil filter housing adapter that is aluminum, and has a bright orange cap with a metal tag to notify anyone changing the oil that it requires the new style filter.
I appreciate it. I have a 2012 RAM C/V and was hoping to upgrade to metal as the plastic has failed after 150k miles.
Hey, I have a ‘19 Pacifica 3.6L V6 gas. Do you know the new engine oil filter part number to but after installing the Doorman unit?
@Mike_44 Hi Mike. Looking up your 2019 Pacifica, it already has the newer style oil filter than our 2012 required. The 2012 kit provided an orange filter cap to bring awareness to the oil filter change moving forward, which now would require a 2015+ model year filter. In your situation (being a later model yr 2019), no upgrade would be necessary for your oil filter number. There are actually a few different kits sold that can just be the aluminum housing only, or one with the complete kit with a "black" filter cap.
The biggest reason for the leak, is over tightening the cap when doing oil changes. Good luck with your upgrade..... its not hard, just takes time. Be patent 😉👍🏻
@@tonycharron73 Thank you for the heads up, I really appreciate it. I will be tackling this job soon. Btw, is it possible to replace the oil cooler without having to drain the coolant or I absolutely have to? I was thinking of clamping the coolant line that feeds the oil cooler before removing it. What do you think?
@Mike_44 clamping the coolant hose is totally an option. You may need to top off the coolant afterwards for what little has been lost in the old adapter. Ne mindful, that you will have air in the system from the new housing, so pay attention to things like oil and coolant levels and temps for the first few days, to make sure all is good 👍🏻
I can't even thank you enough for all your videos. they have helped me out so much. please keep it comming on this 3.6 penstar engines
Thank You. I do love you videos, very informative. I have the 3.6 Gen 2, are there any drawbacks to using the Dorman part? Being all alum I like! You're right, that plastic hose barb is gonna snap off eventually, it'll get hot n cold only so many times! Have to watch for an after market oil cooler to come out!
It being sooo new to market….time will tell with the ones that I have installed
I had a 2013 Dodge Charger with the 3.6 and replaced the oil cooler assembly with a 2016 assembly and everything fits. The only difference was the oil filter. Everything worked. No more oil leaks. So this aluminum assembly should work on the first gen. Just make sure if you take your car for an oil change make sure they use the newer style oil filter. Fyi. I do all my own maintenance.
You replaced it with the Dorman or mopar? I’m not seeing how it wouldn’t fit either unless it’s because you need to use the aluminum cooler from the 2014-2016. In that case you could just purchase that part separately. I’d like to purchase the Dorman cooler but I don’t want to tear everything out to have it not fit and have to wait to order another especially when all these parts are about $300
This is absolutely unbelievable. We just brought our meticulously maintained 2018 JLU in for an oil leak concern and it turned out to be this housing. Our baby is in pristine condition. Meticulously maintained. Only 26,000 MI. I cannot believe that those plugs can just pop out, or the poor quality of this filter housing. I know it's a chrysler. I know they're not top quality but this part is absolutely asinine! It makes me want to avoid my warranty right now and just pop in a old-fashioned 360 Magnum but I can't do that because our Wrangler is raw as it is and still loaded with modern features...
Just bought one off Amazon complete aluminum with cooler and sensors and filter apparently they’re making them now so you may have to update this video!
Also I put a plastic one on 2014 it up on a 2013 at 112,000 it worked then blew again at 130,000 that’s why we’re going to the aluminum love the video thank you very much but you may want to update it
My 2014 3.6 Grand Cherokee developed an oil leak at 120K miles right at this location. I'm sticking with the Mopar part. The all-aluminum Dorman part looks good at first glance, but that polymer base on the Mopar base is a much better insulator of heat. The Dorman aluminum assembly is bolted directly to the engine block which is a huge heat reservoir; there is going to be almost no heat transfer between the oil and coolant as it flows through the Dorman oil cooler which is now essentially at the same temperature as the block. I'm curious if others have paid attention to their oil temperature and seen a difference with this new part installed.
You had a very good point.
why do they keep making ports with nothing in them but plugs? were they used to pressure test, or molded injection manufacturing process?
I work for Chrysler jeep dodge dealership I seen that dorman came out with that I told my whole shop cause earlier this year we had alot issue getting oem housing for them fca wanted us to to Uv light with oil dye to see where it’s leaking from. So fca basically saying here a new seals pack reseal it which plastic always fails I’ve noticed due to heat cycles and oil changes how tight the cap gets plays stress on the whole housing
Put one on my 2014 Town & Country, torqued to 110 in lbs., started leaking oil 2 weeks after install. I just bit the bullet and installed a new Mopar unit which does not leak. I CANNOT RECOMMEND THE DORMAN UNIT which is the subject of this video. Double the work, Usual Dorman crap quality.
Don't do it. I got 185k out of the original part. The party
didn't fail, the gaskets did. I put this dorman part on my 2015 dodge journey and it leaked within 4 weeks. I pull it out and put the mopar oem part back in. No more oil leak. You've been warned.
Hi David, great video. I have no codes but definitely a major oil leak. I have ordered this upgraded oil filter housing kit as I believe this will be the problem. Will the old oil sensors thread to this upgraded housing okay? Should I just replace these while Im in there or is there no need? If I do replace them do I order the same ones or special ones for the aluminum housing. I just want to be prepared. Was just thinking if they might have been sitting in oil as well that I may as well change them too, at least the bottom one. I will also change the spark plugs while Im in there. The truck is only a 2019. Pretty disappointed in this leak that has been going on for years already and why something hasn't changed is beyond me. Good for Dorman to jump on board. Thanks again
I'm am seriously pissed this was dropped now. I put off replacing mine for years and finally bit the bullet two weeks ago with a plastic one... Pain in the ass was that coolant hose clamp, even with clamp tools...
Sorry about that. I honestly have been putting off making the video, hard to find the time most days
@@MotorCityMechanic All good, you know how it is; luck of the draw. Keep it up man, learned a lot and got real specs from you over the years.✌
Penstar Engineers at Chrysler: "Hey i know!! Lets design a component where the oil and the coolant are under pressure and are separated by a then plastic wall and a little gasket and gets wrenched on pretty hard with each oil change... and lets make it out of plastic!.. yeah that's the ticket!"
You answered all the questions I had in mind. Good thing I watch your video first before ordering the kit. Thanks for the doing a great job!
Doorman makes a lot of parts for a lot of cars. How durable is a different question.
Hello like to know if generation one oil pressure sensor Will work with the aluminum housing the reason I’m asking is I receive one complete all pressure sensor have Teflon tape on them so I was thinking about swapping them out with my originals what’s your thoughts on this?
I installed the aluminum upgrade on a 2013 dodge challenger..now I have a cold start rattle..imo due to no oil drain back valve...all the oil drains back to the pan..the old housing had a built-in anti drain back valve ..the new one does not...now there is a screw on filter adapter,,cost 375$.. with a drain back valve in the new filter....I should have replaced the filter housing with an oe replacement part.. regret useing this so called upgraded part now... anyone else having this issue yet...
????......,,
Very well presented. I think the Dorman all metal adapter is the right way to go. Replacement plastic originals or aftermarket versions are time bombs. Why waste time? Made in USA is a sure plus as well.
Professional OE quality style video as always David! Unreal!
You know your engine is junk when Doorman is making upgraded parts for it.
Engine is generally fine. Good power, decent on gas, reliable. The issue is hose connections, oil cooler, etc. made of plastic. Long term reliability of these parts is highly questionable.
@@phprofYT Yeah "BUT" it looks like Doorman is trying too step it up something good for a change huh.....
Comment of the Day Award!! 🤣🤣
not a good comment!
Terrible engine
Does the 2019 ram 1500 3.6 have a Dorman housing that will fit
Hey David. Great video on this upgraded oil cooler. At 88k, mine just started leaking and I purchased the Dorman based on your recommendation. I watched your 2011-2017 Dodge Charger videos for the help (and courgage) to tackle this on my 2014 JGC. As a weekend wrencher, I really appreciate all the little details you included.
I'm in the middle of this job and running into an issue. The oil pressure sensor connector (non-double lock style) won't "click" and hold in place. I purchased a new OEM sensor and thought maybe that was the problem. But I tried it on the old one and having the same issue. It wasn't a problem taking the connector off and the "push/release" seems to work fine. Any suggestions ?
I figured out the problem. There's a red rubber gasket inside the connector that got bound up and wouldn't let the sensor slide all the way in. Using a a small pick/flat head screwdriver I moved the gasket back towards the open side of the connector and it "clicked" in. 👍🏻
Great video, but I would add - one of the reasons the OE unit is plastic is that plastic does not conduct heat. An aluminum housing will conduct heat. Saying that, do you think that the o-rings should be made out of viton, instead of rubber?
I do think this is a much improved design, but the seals should be made to match the increased heat that this unit will conduct.
Good video with insightful explanation of how to do this correctly. The Viton seals are so important to be installed without crushing. Question on the sensor transfer to the aluminum cooler. What type of thread sealer do you recommend and do you just tighten to "snug"?
Did u figure this out?
@@EricTireguy Never got an answer but I would guess that Permatex blue would work just fine. Don't know if there is a torque spec
Thanks for the great info. Any recommendations on replacing as a preventative maintenance item? Age or miles?
What a great and educational video! Well done! This really helped my understanding of the parts and their function. Thank you!
So just to be sure if you don’t wanna replace this again should you use the aluminum
I've been getting a check engine light every once in a while for the dual stage oil pump. I took my Jeep to my friend's shop and he tested everything, no issues with the pump. He said it could be the oil pressure sending sensor that's on the back of the oil filter housing. I'm thinking of replacing the whole thing with the aluminum housing. I had the plastic one replaced last year at the stealership $1200.
Dorman creates lots of mixed emotions. Lmao
I recently replaced my Gen 1 with an Mopar Gen 2 assembly. The second time I started the van a P0520 and P0522. I was thinking about putting the old oil sending unit back on, or should I get a new OEM sending unit? Thanks for the great videos!
What sending unit (sensor) did you put on it? For stuff like that, use OEM. Always. Even when it costs more. If you can figure out who the OE supplier was for your car, an OE part will be quite a bit cheaper than what it is at the dealer. A concrete example is NGK/NTK is the OE that makes O2 sensors for Mopar, and you can get their sensors through distribution channels for cheaper than the dealer parts counter.
@@philbrutsche8928 The Mopar sensor that came with the Mopar assembly.
Thanks for this video. Btw im the only one who has ever changed the oil on my 2015 3.6. i put a white sharpie mark on the oil cooler housing cap the first time i seen this setup. It is a 3.6 limited with 115k miles. Have you seen these fail on alot of 2015 Durango models?
I see them fail on a lot of models….Not so much on the VVT/VVL engines that have the EGR valve, come to think of it I don’t think I have on that version yet. I don’t remember which years that engine was placed in
God I remember when they dropped all the the last 4-5 V6s and went to Pentastar. Very first one we got in was in a loaded Grand Cherokee. Made it 18 miles and popped a head... Fortunately they've been "ok" and predominantly only saw leaks like these, and upper valve train issues. Curious how the longevity of the aluminum housing changes things though? We do about 10-15 a week so I'll throw a couple in to test.
Sounds like you change hundreds. Any idea why my 2017 ram pentastar is showing high oil psi after changing the cooler? It has the check engine light on and won’t seem to fluctuate it just sits at 91 idle or driving
@@ScrapKing1000 There is an oil pressure control solenoid in the oil pump that's notorious for going out. Typically sets a DTC that's like P××66? The x's are because I don't remember the exact code off the top of my head but it's something like that. Google 3.6L Pentastar oil pressure control solenoid/valve and it'll come up I'm sure.
Thanks man. Unfortunately that job looks wayyy more intense than just the cooler replacement. Ughh just found motor city do one it was a 5 part video 😫
I found your videos about replacing the OFA and would like to THANK YOU as it went smoother than I thought it would. so thanks again
Always happy to help
Great video and information. I have replaced a few of these at work. We have alot of dodge 3.6L in our fleet. Thanks for making a video on it!
Your welcome and thanks for watching it
Does anyone have a part number for the UPPER oil filter housing seals? By upper I mean between the upper oil filter housing and the actual (piggy backed) oil cooler itself. Yes, I know the kit does include these. BUT, gaskets will eventually leak and I want to be prepared for that eventuality. Otherwise if those gaskets are not available, then some day I may have to buy a whole new unit just for the gaskets.
My gen 1 oil cooler leaked from the oil filter cap like a sprinkler spraying all directions getting oil all over the front of the engine bay. And it was screwed on tight. I wiped as much of the oil away with the blue paper towels. I'm not going to put a steam cleaning spray to wash the oil out. I don't want a shorted out engine. I'll just let it dry by itself.
This may have been the cause if leaking at the cap: Installing the Chrysler 3.2L and 3.6L oil filter o-ring correctly
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Thank you very much I am replacing the oil cooler on a 2014 Dodge Caravan Grand Town and Country and this is going to help me out a lot thank you
Your welcome
Why doesn’t it fit gen 3 engines? Will it physically fit?
On a 2014 jeep wrangler, I have oil in my coolant overflow. Been reading it's either to Oil Cooler, Trans Cooler or a head gasket... The oil in the engine looks normal so I'm leaning toward the oil cooler. This will be the second time it's been replaced. Any other ideas?
Love your content, thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. One question I'm hoping you can help me with, having trouble finding the right 1-1/16 deep well socket for the oil pressure sensor on my 2012 Journey. I've purchased 3 and none have fit; OEM, Lisle and a 3rd brand I can't recall at the moment. I'd like to avoid pulling the entire cooler unit so if you have a socket brand name that you could recommend, I would be forever in your debt. Thanks and keep up the great work!
Just put one on my 2017 wrangler. Did coilpacks/plugs and then 2weeks later i get a black puddle on the ground. So i had to go right back in again which i should have done the research before. Put new sensors in as well.
I wish you would have explained why this won't fit gen 3 applications. Further research suggests that newer oil cooler used on gen 3 engines is nearly identical except the oil temp sensor port is now plugged because the oil temp sensor was moved to the rear of the right cylinder head. I think one could easily make this Dorman part work on gen 3 engines by simply plugging the unused port with a threaded pipe plug (3/8" NPT appears to be the correct size). The oil pressure sensor used on gen 3 engines appears to use the same thread size (looks like 1/8" NPT) as the older pressure sensor. I might give this a try because the oil cooler on our 2018 Pacifica appears to be leaking.
I just did mine on my ‘14 Challenger. The Dorman part number ending in 959 contains the plug for the oil temp sensor port.
@@86twin You are correct, but Dorman hadn't released 926-859 yet when I posted my previous comment. 🙂
@@ruley73 I didn’t need it because I have a gen 2 engine.
This Dorman product won’t work on the Gen3 Pentastar V6 because the Gen3 housing does not use separate oil temp and oil pressure sending units. Instead the Gen3 plastic housing has a single combined oil pressure & oil temp sending unit. The plastic Mopar replacement oil filter/cooler housing for the Gen3 Pentastar V6 has a “blind” hole where the oil temp sending unit used on earlier Generations of the Pentastar V6 would normally go. If you have a Gen3 V6, maybe you could us the Dorman aluminum unit if you sealed its oil temp sensor port with the appropriate sized pipe plug and used the Gen3 combo sending unit in the Dorman housing’s oil pressure sending unit port.
Why the part # 926-876 no fit Gen 3?
To me that's just a bad design for an engine. Just as bad as placing a starter on top of the engine under the intake manifold.
I fully agree
I'm guessing this vid is gonna be updated soon with the new 926-959 kit, as I was super excited to see it only to get the gut punch of no gen 1 coverage. Dorman 's site does list the 959 kit as covering gen1, but im gonna still touch base with them to ensure that. The new complete package looks absolutely awesome, hopefully go a long way in stemming some of the *MANY* Problems the gen1 engines in particular have. Yes, I'm still bitter over my 13 gen1 wiping itself outt at 110,000kms - not miles, kilometers. I've now got 50,000kms on the replacement engine, it's coming up on needing plugs anyway so if Dorman states this 959 kit is a perfect fit, my jeep is getting it no question. Thanx for the update!
Posted a pic on the kit that I received yesterday. Yeah the complete kit with cooler and orange oil filter cap is a one side fits all. Has everything you need just have to swap over the sensors and assemble the unit (comes in pieces). Orange cap is a warning that if used on a gen 1 that you will need a different oil filter then what the vehicle normally calls for. Will hopefully do a video on the new kit soon
So will the dorman aluminum assembly work with a 2017 ram 1500 slt
Does the Gen 2 (2014 +) have any type of pressure relief/bypass valve or is that function completely handled by the new (2014 +) oil filter redesign?
In other words is there any part that needs to be swapped into the Dorman 926-876 housing from the OEM housing or only the Gen 2 oil filter?
2 weeks ago I had a P0128 coolant temp code with CEL. I replaced the thermostat a year ago so thought it may be the same issue. Cleared the code. 1 week later I get a P066d code. Oil in the coolant, overflowing in the reservoir, low to no oil on dipstick. Oil in the valley near filter housing but otherwise engine running fine and good oil pressure before I shut it down. How common is it for the oil cooler to fail or is it most likely a head gasket or cracked heat. 2015 jeep GC 3.6L
My money is on the oil filter housing/cooler assembly. That’s where I would start and then flush the cooling system numerous times until it’s clean
@@MotorCityMechanicThanks. As you know the coolant is now like chocolate/peanut butter. What do you suggest to use to flush if anything other than water and how do I ensure once it is flushed thatI get the right mixture of coolant in the engine? I'm not sure what volume of water or whatever I'd use would remain in the engine after draining the radiator and reservoir.
Gotta ask yaself why manufacturers don't do this from the beginning😏
Cost I assume. I know they do extensive testing but give it years and miles….issues start showing up
@@MotorCityMechanic right🤦♂️
Awesome knowledge as always.
I wish I would've know a little earlier.
I just replaced this unit on 3 different cars in two weeks. I'm guessing the weather change and sitting through the pandemic played a part (cab co).
Great video as always👍😎
Now that I made the video you will never need to replace another lol….that’s how it usually happens lol.
@@MotorCityMechanic lol 😂
I'd agree with you, but I have a bunch of racecar driver wannabes that forget to tell me about maintenance until a towtruck is needed🥴
@@MotorCityMechanic LoL. You won't believe it. A fourth one came in today. Looks like I may be trying out the new part after all👍😎
Great review and thanks for going over all the permutations. If I used the Dorman on a low mileage engine, I might buy a new cooler and senders. The extra money will easily be saved if you have to to it again later.
Dorman makes the oil cooler for their aluminum oil cooler
Your correct. I have one that’s suppose to be showing up tomorrow that I will do a video on and explain the difference
I replaced my 3.6 Oil Cooler with the latest Dorman unit. It's no longer made in the USA. It's now made in Malaysia.
If that’s the case then I’m very disappointed. I have lately been using the Mopar versions with no issues so far. Sometimes when I hear the word Dorman it’s very hit and miss with their quality
I still think that there will be seal failures with the aluminum units. The O Ring on the oil port is so thin. Time will tell.@@MotorCityMechanic
But all I hear is how bad Dorman replacement parts are ... from just about all mechanic channels
It’s a case by case basis….I agree with them on many items for sure
Great video! Thanks. Just replaced this part on my 14 Wrangler JKU with an OEM. Wish I would have seen this video BEFORE I had it replaced. If it happens again, I will definitely replace it with a Dorman unit.
i got a quote for the fix at a local shop , 400 labor not including the plastic part that they had in stock. thanks to your vid i will order the upgrade and do it myself in my shop on my concrete while listening to your how to's thank you from alabama and keep up the great work.
Take your time and you shouldn’t have any issues. Thanks for finding the channel and for watching the video
My mechanic just said they won't use these aluminum replacements as they go bad faster then the plastic one's. He also said the new OEM plastic from the Dodge/ Jeep dealers won't go bad like the original one's.
Is a 2014 oil cooler housing the best and only upgrade for a 2012 3.6 jeep wrangler? No dorman aluminum model that will fit? Thanks!
Thanks men,I will update mine,I did change it once with a plastic one,and I saw oil leaks wo days ago.As you said this might be the reason I have a check engine light on.I appreciate you devoting your time to send update like this one and many others,I really learn a lot from your channel,God bless.
Why would this upgrade not fit the 2012? If you state you can put the newer adapter on the 2012 why wouldn’t this work.
Per Dormans website no………physically yes you can but you would have to buy a complete plastic housing assembly just to rob the needed parts off of (cooler, bolts, oil filter cap, etc) so it wouldn’t make since cost being that you would be basically paying double in parts. But there is another option….Dorman came out with another kit that’s a one size fits all. Will be making a video on that one very soon
@@MotorCityMechanic Hope you can get your hands on one soon...
Myself I guess I buy the plastic OEM for the gen 2 and put it on the gen1. Even if the Dorman may fit your model changing the cooler and have to reuse the old seal is a deal breaker if you can't get that gasket. And knowing how Dorman parts are I would just buy the factory one and save any problems. Thanks for the heads up David. I would also buy a new water hose that goes to the cooler myself since it is a pain to get in there. I get new spark plugs since your into it.
Great videos, thank you for your time.
So if im hearing you correctly, i can use this metal housing in a gen 1 (2013 in my case) but only if i have the oil cooler assembly and the filter assembly off of a 2014. But then it will bolt right up?
Yes
What a sad place to install this oil cooler and coolant combination. Too bad there is not aftermarket product to install it out of the valley. Oh well....each engine has its issues.
I agree with you on that one as well. No such thing as a perfect engine
David, I have a gen 1 2012…could one feasibly replace with the dorman, buy a cheap gen 2 housing and cooler and swap the cooler to the dorman? Good idea / bad idea? Just stick with OEM? Thoughts?
Does the dorman unit use the '14 filter cartridge?
Yes it does
When you do this. Change your oil. All that coolant goes right into the oil pan when you RnR the oil filter assembly.
I'm definitely gonna get this when I do my spark plugs👍🏿
David;
Disappointed the Dorman Oil Filter & Cooler Part will NOT fit my 2011 Gen 1 3.6 Pentastar 😟
Question - But,WILL the Dorman Part work on my Gen1 if I salvage a separate Aluminum OilCooler SubASM from a Gen2?
Yes, I know that means doubling my parts cost today buying both the new Dorman Part and a whole Gen2 MOPAR plastic ASM, but beats installing another MOPAR plastic ASM guaranteed to leak at some point…I keep my vehicles on the road for up to 20 years+.
Bill
For sure…..rob the gen 2 cooler and it will work on this assembly. I see no reason why not
Yep, the Gen 2 will bolt on to the gen 1 just fine, so the dorman part should also work if you add the cooler and filter cap. BUT you will want to mark or add a marking saying it has the new unit and uses the newer filter. The old filter will drop into the new housing but will not filter the oil, So say you take it to a shop or oil change outfit, they are going to say, oh this uses the old filter. OOPs.
Your one of the lucky few if you dont have a problem with this engine. So far with perfect maintenance I have had to have replaced, the computer at 50k, the heater line connector Plastic at 70k, rockers at 65k and now again at 125k for engine ticking.....All were dealership repaired. So either it is the dealerships not doing thorough maintenance repairs or the engine itself by design. Most was warranty covered but now out of warranty expected to be expensive to repair rocker arm issues again as dealer only warrants rocker arm repairs for two years. So sad I must say a design flaw should be repaired at no cost by the dealerships for the life of the vehicle.
What is the torque spec for the cooler part when you re-install it onto the new housing? Any information is appreciated.
9 foot pounds
Thanks David it’s really a great video that’s will help me to fix my dodge charger se ……keep going…👏👏👏👏👏👏
Greetings David, Just found your channel. will be buying a 2014 charger 3.6L retired police vehicle. Have been watching many videos on oil changes. Oil is the blood of a car. I hope I may reach out if necessary when the Haynes book gives no clarity. Plan on watching / learning more from your contribution via Videos. Blessings DVD:) (my name is David too)
Is there a specialty socket for the oil temp socket? It seems like those sensors never want to come out because nothing ever fits them. I am referring to the smaller sensor on top I am not sure if it’s temp or pressure but it seems like that is the one that never wants to come out because I don’t have the correct socket.
Nothing special. Usually I just use a deep socket. I think it’s either an 18mm or 19mm. Can’t remember, I just grab what fits lol.
@@MotorCityMechanic ya I hear you I work in buffalo and it only seems to work about 10% of the time. I am sure you know my struggle. Thank you for all of these great videos I am learning a ton of things about the pentastar engine that will really come in handy. I am going to buy the tool kit for the timing chain so I can do the rocker arms correctly. I have been doing it wrong for awhile now and I will feel a lot better not prying up on the camshaft now that I know I can remove it correctly!!
Okay, so after watching your other video many times I had decided to upgrade my 2013 to the new style. I also decided to use this dorman part. So knowing my old oil cooler won't fit, I ordered a 2014 OE replacement filter housing to serve as an oil cooler donor. The plan was to bolt the new 14+ cooler onto the dorman 14+ housing and slap it in there. Any reason this shouldn't work? It seems like in this video the main problem we run into is a lack of a proper oil cooler to install, which I can now take off the donor.
The comments on the other video seem to unanimously agree the conversion works, and all I'm doing is swapping the bottom piece of that conversion from plastic to metal. I know it's not cost effective at all lol, but is there any reason it wouldn't work? I really want it to be metal down there. Expensive, plus wasting an entire plastic housing, but hopefully one and done.
It can be done but having to pay double for two assemblies to make one is the issue. For me I haven’t seen multiple failures so far so the price doesn’t justify it to me. But that’s a person choice and no real wrong answer either way. We have been doing swaps for a long time just like the video I made about it.
eBay is now selling these as complete assemblies with cooler, filter & sensors.
Not a big fan of dormant parts but this one actually looks pretty cool.
Great video but i would have said yes for gen1 long as you buy the oil cooler for the gen2 and have the screws. They do sell the oil coolers separately.
You also need to buy the different cap. The gen 1 cap wont work
I got some oem seals for the dorman housing, but the seal kit comes with a larger black o-ring and a smaller diameter red o-ring. Instructions say for 2014-2021 applications to replace the black o-ring on the OFA assembly with the red one in the kit. Can anyone confirm this is correct for a 2017 model 3.6? The wording on the instruction sheet is weird.
Great video David !!! I don't even own a 3.2 / 3.6 but I just watched it for the entertainment value. However, I do own a 2.4L
ughhh! all to save a buck i'm sure. just noticed oil pooling around the front of my wifes oil fitler housing. wasn't enough to make it past the front portion of the valley, but given enough time i'm sure it would. She had a P06DA code which led me to look around for the oil pressure sensor and see the oil pooling. I think i'll just order the Dorman part. the new dorman part 926-959 comes with the oil cooler housing. I think you still have to assemble it though.
I'm still confused, and my particular 2015 T&C doesn't help. It was built in Dec 2015, and it has the housing with the old-style bypass valve in the housing body rather than the cap. So, does that mean I cannot use the Dorman housing? I see that Dorman is currently selling the aluminum body with a new cooler attached...so was that the only issue preventing using the aluminum housing on the old engine?
you provide the best advice based on your experience in dealership and, of course, millions of hours doing the work. 😁
Mine was worse. I had a head gasket problem/crack which leaked pressure into the cooling system and cracked this so I assumed it was the problem, replaced it and then the coolant tank ruptured as it got worse. Strangely there was no obvious oil in the water or water in the coolant. It was a nightmare and I got rid of the car rather than replacing the heads or gasket. It was a 2013.
I'm gonna save the oil cooler off the next gen2 pentastar I swap a housing on at work. Then, if I need to put one of these on my gen1, I'll have a cooler for it. The gen1 filter setup sucks anyway. More often than not it seems, those bypass valves are bsuted.
According to Dorman and Northridge4x4 that Dorman Housing isn't made in the USA.
Am I still going to install it? Probably.
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I am confused Amazon has Dorman 926-876 and 926-959 about $20 differance. My 2014 RAM 1500 truck with the Penstar 3.6 engine. What is the correct one for my truck?
I've had mines replaced with an all-aluminum system 3/27/23 but I'm still😮😢 getting the leak in my driveway. It started leaking 4/3/23
What should I do next. 2015 200s
These OEM oil coolers are cheap trash. The ones on the Chevy ecotec engines are the same way. What's the point of cutting cost so aggressively when the reliability of the final product is crushed? All this plastic sh*t has got to stop. I have to do this job oil on a 2016 Ram 1500. The truck is only 6 years old! Our country's engineers are doing a worse job now than they have in the past. Quality & reliability are going DOWN, not up. They should be EMBARRASSED. They don't even CARE.