good job on Brind'Amour saying that it isn't the issue but certainly is frustrating. now if only fans would stop blaming refs for sub-par performances. as a fan I hate to see inconsistencies and it is a problem, however if one measly call is what ends your post season you need to evaluate what the hell is wrong with your team.
Thats the meaning of a sub par performance, reffs are the ones making the calls, if there not going by the book, teams are getting screwed, so how cant you blame them, sorry but your comment didnt make sence, reffs need to be held accountable for there actions just like players, ive seen non calls on obvious pennilties threw all 3 series
If the refs had been going by the book on this particular play, it would have been 2 mns for high stick on the Panthers and 2 mns for embellishment on the Canes. Call or no call, it all evens out.
How do explain Draisaitl getting a penalty for a love tap on Doughty's skate vs no penalty on Eberle for ultra boarding and breaking Cogliano's break... pathetic.
Panthers player’s stick blade hit him square in the face. He likely was more animated about it than if it were his own players stick on accident, or a shot follow through. Most players react with some animation from a high stick to the face, especially the blade. If it grazed his chin or something, then yeah, embellishment, but in this case, that’s a pretty standard high sticking call. You call embellishment there and now the standard would be impractical in keeping for embellishment from high stick to face. Non biased Wings fan here btw.
@@independentmind7782 even as a cats fan that’s still high sticking. The play was blown dead as somehow none of the refs saw the highstick, but thought there was an injury on the play when Ghost went down
It was a high stick, no doubt, but also an embellishment could/should have been called in trying to sell the penalty. You either take both, or neither. At that point in the game, I think the refs made the right call, take neither. Not going to comment on any other penalty or non-penalty call for either team in this series, that's my take on this specific play. If Carolina is going to win, they can't rely on the refs handing them power plays. They have 3 goals in 3 games, 2 PP goals and 1 5v5 goal. That's not good enough to win.
I feel for the Canes im leafs fan we got straight players crosschecked full HD review almost kncoked unconcoius NO CALL insane reffing needs to have quick review every call in playoffs!!!! Period
everyone complaining about refs...what about the 4 min for the high stick on cousins that wasn't called...give me a break. the refs miss a ton of calls. they aren't doing it for one team or the other. and leafs fans need their heads examined. you got 7-2 penalties in the first 2 games and lost both at home. refs tried to help and you still lost. shut up and quit whining already
Yeah. But I’ve never heard more whiny fans than Panthers fans after the disallowed goal in game 1 OT. I’m cheering for the Panthers, but the level of tears made me nearly switch allegiances.
@@kurtisgibbs6698 at least that one had some substance. That was a weak call, but you live with it and play on. Like I said, the refs have missed them on both sides. We are also talking about a call that quite literally was a game ending goal vs a penalty which could have or could not have done anything different in the game. Big difference. A penalty called means the players still have to play. Taking a goal off the board or putting one on in OT is a game altering call.
Well for one the is no such thing as a 4 minute major. Not sure if you're watching basketball but learn the rules kid. PIMs are as follows a game misconduct, a 10 minute misconduct, a 5 minute major, 4 minute double minor and a 2 minute minor.
There have been some whacky calls/ no calls this year, but if I hear one more Canes fan blame the ref ima lose it. Being down 0-3 in a series isn’t all on the refs. Like my Avs blew it big time this year but hey that hurts them more than me lol
Last thing refs needed was for it to tie 1-1 in the final minutes in the 3rd. Days have passed since the 4OT but they cant possibility have it happen again especially since they have plans to go golfing and hit the beach early next morning.
@@day1avsfan907 he wasn’t joking- the original poster truly thinks the refs don’t want overtime because they want to get off work earlier- like they’re working at Walmart.
I'm rooting for FL.. but... we all saw it. Frustrating but I think every team has to overcome a ball-breaker like that at some point in the playoffs. Good luck boys (but GO CATS).
The NHL truly have the worst officiating in all of sports. It's an open secret that they call an offence depending on who it is, what time of year, time of the game, score of the game, etc. Complete joke overall.
Carolina is a Great Team that is extremely well coached. But....They lack goalscorers. Aho is all by himself now when Svechnikov is out. They should have traded for a "clutch"player like Palat
It wouldn't matter with Bob in the net. Hurricanes are dominating shots on goal and have had countless 1on1s. Carolina had probably more goals than anyone up until this point.
Hockey has to have the worst defined penalties besides maybe basketball. There should be minimal interpretation by the refs and better definitions for these rules
Refs need to be better all around, but the Canes did not lose because of the refs ....when you are down 0-3 and gave not scored in how many periods now??? One goal in how many????? Mr. BOBROVSKY is doing his thing but he has FINALLY..... FINALLY after all these years corrected his biggest problem: Over playing the sequence and taking himself out if position
They stopped the play because the guy embellished so hard it looked like he was hurt. Didn’t even touch his face. 2 for each should have been. Cry cry cry
@@CozyToad how could the ref give offsetting penalties in this case, it was highsticking and the ref was six feet away..... they gave Draisaitl a penalty for disturbing Doughty's skate laces, no penalty to Eberle for breaking Cogliano's neck... pathetic. It goes on and on year after year. I guess I watch because it's the law in Canada, you have to love hockey.
and an owner who doesn't restrict the GM's ability to manage and a GM who will have holl be a 7th D dude can't stay consistent if his life depended on it. in short: whole org needs to be shaken up not just our GM
@@cludecat7072after watching the 2nd place team in the league be down 3-0 should open your eyes and say "maybe the Leafs weren't so bad and maybe Florida is just on a godly level at this point". Blowing up the team seems rediculous, especially if Carolina gets swept
@@Thisisbailie blowing up management. Shanahan needs to go. Yeah Florida is playing well and Bob is stealing games, that doesn't mean our president isn't awful.
Not sure what you mean, here. By love, do you mean they're the most penalized team in the playoffs? You might want to check statistics before making a comment like this.
Play stopped cause refs thought the Canes player was dying, video review confirmed he is a soccer player. Glad refs didn’t call that crap. Next game the coach can blame Santa Claus.
And that crap being a stick blade to the face? You are glad the ref didn't call that? The whole world saw 5 different angles of the stick to the chops. And I'm not even a Canes fan but that's a penalty all day.
I guess you weren't watching earlier in the game when Cousins was "actually" struck in the mouth with a high stick that drew blood and wasn't called? That should have been a double-minor. However, this particular play on Gostisbehere, where he clearly was not struck in the mouth and tried to embellish the call, is the most pathetic refereeing you've seen throughout all the years you've been watching playoff hockey? Tell me you're an upset Carolina fan with no knowledge of the game without telling me you're an upset Carolina fan with no knowledge of the game.
@@luvmy968 no knowledge? , I have watched all the Sutters play junior hockey in Lethbridge with Bryan Trottier, I was a huge Habs fan in the sixties, watching Beliveau, Cournoyer, thru the seventies with Lafleur, Shutt, Robinson. Saw Clint Malarchuk's neck get severed and blood spewing all over. Saw Ted Green and Wayne Maki get into a stick swinging incident and Green had a plate put into his head. The Broadstreet bullies in the 70s and watched Larry Robinson destroy Dave Shulz. I watch all the Olympics hockey, even watched the U. S. win the gold medal in Lake Placid. Saw Jordan Eberle break a guy's neck, no penalty. No, I'm an Oiler fan who loves hockey and seen a lot in my 65 years and I've never seen such pathetic officiating. So, getting back to your comment, I know quite a bit about hockey.
@deanasplund123 So you think this one particular play was THE most pathetic non-call, EVER? That was my point. If you watched the game and saw the non-call on Cousins, you can't call this play pathetic. Furthermore, if there was a call to be made, it's two minutes for high-sticking on Reinhart and two minutes for Unsportmanlike Embellishment on Gostisbehere. However, with two minutes to go in the third period, the right call was to make no call at all and not take any players off the ice. 4 v 4 or 5 v 5, same result, let the players decide the game, not the refs. And by the way, it doesn't matter how much hockey you've watched, that doesn't mean you know a hill of beans about the game.
@@luvmy968 this is the last I'll comment on this, by making these non-calls, the refs are deciding the outcome. That's what they get paid for. Have a good life.
Good man Rod. I love this guy.
His cup lift from 2006 is my favourite of all
Rod is a great man and coach. Should be in the Hall as a player!
What makes him a great coach ?,
Hes in the canes hof
good job on Brind'Amour saying that it isn't the issue but certainly is frustrating. now if only fans would stop blaming refs for sub-par performances. as a fan I hate to see inconsistencies and it is a problem, however if one measly call is what ends your post season you need to evaluate what the hell is wrong with your team.
Thats the meaning of a sub par performance, reffs are the ones making the calls, if there not going by the book, teams are getting screwed, so how cant you blame them, sorry but your comment didnt make sence, reffs need to be held accountable for there actions just like players, ive seen non calls on obvious pennilties threw all 3 series
If the refs had been going by the book on this particular play, it would have been 2 mns for high stick on the Panthers and 2 mns for embellishment on the Canes.
Call or no call, it all evens out.
How do explain Draisaitl getting a penalty for a love tap on Doughty's skate vs no penalty on Eberle for ultra boarding and breaking Cogliano's break... pathetic.
@@Chris-wb8sh it’s the playoffs obviously there is going to be non calls that’s the fun of the playoffs it’s more rough
@@RememberMe123-b4b different refs have different standards for what should be penalty’s and some refs make bad calls so that’s how you explain it
There were actually two penalties on the play:
2 mns for high stick on the Panthers.
2 mns for embellishment on the Canes.
Panthers player’s stick blade hit him square in the face. He likely was more animated about it than if it were his own players stick on accident, or a shot follow through. Most players react with some animation from a high stick to the face, especially the blade.
If it grazed his chin or something, then yeah, embellishment, but in this case, that’s a pretty standard high sticking call. You call embellishment there and now the standard would be impractical in keeping for embellishment from high stick to face.
Non biased Wings fan here btw.
@@chevelle1 Check the replay, stick hit his visor, no contact with his actual face whatsoever. No need to thrash around like he’s been shot
@@independentmind7782 even as a cats fan that’s still high sticking. The play was blown dead as somehow none of the refs saw the highstick, but thought there was an injury on the play when Ghost went down
@@zachlesk5685 I never said it wasn’t high stick.
Always respected Rod as a hockey player. Guy was a warrior but how many times did he break his nose.
I'm an Oilers Fan and love this guy! Pure class!
It was a high stick, no doubt, but also an embellishment could/should have been called in trying to sell the penalty. You either take both, or neither. At that point in the game, I think the refs made the right call, take neither. Not going to comment on any other penalty or non-penalty call for either team in this series, that's my take on this specific play. If Carolina is going to win, they can't rely on the refs handing them power plays. They have 3 goals in 3 games, 2 PP goals and 1 5v5 goal. That's not good enough to win.
Nobody remembered the first high stick on cousins with blood coming from his mouth that wasnt called? At least the reffs were consistent.
And elbow n Forsling
Yeah they should call those instead of the garbage pens they did call
As a islanders fan I couldn’t be happier about the non call. How does it feel
Your team won 2 games of the playoffs
@@obamna2570 the islanders won 19 straight series. We have the best history in the game
@@xDaviluv no you dont, ur team sucks
Go get them Rod !!
Lol i love his reaction and im a panthers fan
I feel for the Canes im leafs fan we got straight players crosschecked full HD review almost kncoked unconcoius NO CALL insane reffing needs to have quick review every call in playoffs!!!! Period
Since when did NHL bring in NFL refs
what about the hit on Cousins, his mouth was bleeding and there was no call
everyone complaining about refs...what about the 4 min for the high stick on cousins that wasn't called...give me a break. the refs miss a ton of calls. they aren't doing it for one team or the other. and leafs fans need their heads examined. you got 7-2 penalties in the first 2 games and lost both at home. refs tried to help and you still lost. shut up and quit whining already
Yeah. But I’ve never heard more whiny fans than Panthers fans after the disallowed goal in game 1 OT.
I’m cheering for the Panthers, but the level of tears made me nearly switch allegiances.
@@kurtisgibbs6698 at least that one had some substance. That was a weak call, but you live with it and play on. Like I said, the refs have missed them on both sides. We are also talking about a call that quite literally was a game ending goal vs a penalty which could have or could not have done anything different in the game. Big difference. A penalty called means the players still have to play. Taking a goal off the board or putting one on in OT is a game altering call.
Well for one the is no such thing as a 4 minute major. Not sure if you're watching basketball but learn the rules kid. PIMs are as follows a game misconduct, a 10 minute misconduct, a 5 minute major, 4 minute double minor and a 2 minute minor.
Seems there is little to no accountability for how Refs call games from night to night
How about if they take one of your up and coming stars and smash him into the ice for a concussion and nothing said
There have been some whacky calls/ no calls this year, but if I hear one more Canes fan blame the ref ima lose it. Being down 0-3 in a series isn’t all on the refs. Like my Avs blew it big time this year but hey that hurts them more than me lol
I fing swear, we need some fing goal scorers.😤
You had 2 but they were injured and didn't play a single playoff game. Sucks but it is what it is
Last thing refs needed was for it to tie 1-1 in the final minutes in the 3rd. Days have passed since the 4OT but they cant possibility have it happen again especially since they have plans to go golfing and hit the beach early next morning.
What….
Yeah golfing and the beach are more important than a Stanley cup playoff game??? Get a brain scan next time your at doctors
@@stephensmith1953 I believe he was being sarcastic
@@stephensmith1953 it's a joke bud, chill tf, eh
@@day1avsfan907 he wasn’t joking- the original poster truly thinks the refs don’t want overtime because they want to get off work earlier- like they’re working at Walmart.
I guess when his guy high sticks Isles Mayfield in OT and it leads directly to his teams game winning goal that’s ok. What goes around comes around.
That play stoppage cost me 200 bucks on the spread thanks refs.
Thats why they stopped it
They traded for patches, but he got hurt
Refs didn't want that -1.5 for Florida so they axed the goal!!
I'm rooting for FL.. but... we all saw it. Frustrating but I think every team has to overcome a ball-breaker like that at some point in the playoffs. Good luck boys (but GO CATS).
Cats fans had their embarrassing mental breakdown after the disallowed OT goal in game 1
The NHL truly have the worst officiating in all of sports. It's an open secret that they call an offence depending on who it is, what time of year, time of the game, score of the game, etc. Complete joke overall.
Have some whine and cheese with your beer.
@@stephentyler4352nah, he’s right.
Carolina is a Great Team that is extremely well coached. But....They lack goalscorers. Aho is all by himself now when Svechnikov is out.
They should have traded for a "clutch"player like Palat
It wouldn't matter with Bob in the net. Hurricanes are dominating shots on goal and have had countless 1on1s. Carolina had probably more goals than anyone up until this point.
I swear all Rod does is complain about the officials. He’s gotten so good at it he knows what to say so he doesn’t get fined.
You can always count on Rod to whine about the officiating.
You just got swept doesn't matter
Hockey has to have the worst defined penalties besides maybe basketball. There should be minimal interpretation by the refs and better definitions for these rules
They were fortunate they stopped play, the puck went into the empty net 4 seconds after so idk what he is talking about
Refs need to be better all around, but the Canes did not lose because of the refs ....when you are down 0-3 and gave not scored in how many periods now??? One goal in how many????? Mr. BOBROVSKY is doing his thing but he has FINALLY..... FINALLY after all these years corrected his biggest problem: Over playing the sequence and taking himself out if position
The refs are absolutely garbage this year. No one is here to watch power plays. We want to watch hockey
They stopped the play because the guy embellished so hard it looked like he was hurt. Didn’t even touch his face. 2 for each should have been. Cry cry cry
It hit his visor, still high sticking
@@RememberMe123-b4b Looked like embellishment and if you give the refs an excuse to call offsetting penalties then they often do so.
@@CozyToad how could the ref give offsetting penalties in this case, it was highsticking and the ref was six feet away..... they gave Draisaitl a penalty for disturbing Doughty's skate laces, no penalty to Eberle for breaking Cogliano's neck... pathetic. It goes on and on year after year. I guess I watch because it's the law in Canada, you have to love hockey.
It hit his visor. Everyone saw this was a penalty.
@@RememberMe123-b4b he dove like he was shot and rolled around on the ice like he had a broken jaw, still embellishment.
The Leafs need a coach who still benches.
and an owner who doesn't restrict the GM's ability to manage and a GM who will have holl be a 7th D dude can't stay consistent if his life depended on it.
in short: whole org needs to be shaken up not just our GM
@@cludecat7072 Yeah Shanny can go, too.
@@cludecat7072 *president
@@cludecat7072after watching the 2nd place team in the league be down 3-0 should open your eyes and say "maybe the Leafs weren't so bad and maybe Florida is just on a godly level at this point". Blowing up the team seems rediculous, especially if Carolina gets swept
@@Thisisbailie blowing up management. Shanahan needs to go. Yeah Florida is playing well and Bob is stealing games, that doesn't mean our president isn't awful.
Refs love Panthers
Not sure what you mean, here. By love, do you mean they're the most penalized team in the playoffs? You might want to check statistics before making a comment like this.
Damn Adam is an imbecile making a comment like this.
Eh it’s okay panthers fans malding over the officiating now
Biggest flop I’ve seen , soccer would of been proud, make hockey great again, bring back old school hockey , need the enforcer back
Play stopped cause refs thought the Canes player was dying, video review confirmed he is a soccer player. Glad refs didn’t call that crap. Next game the coach can blame Santa Claus.
I think that sun has burned your eyesight down there in South Florida.
And that crap being a stick blade to the face? You are glad the ref didn't call that? The whole world saw 5 different angles of the stick to the chops. And I'm not even a Canes fan but that's a penalty all day.
All sports results are decided by the refs in the end
Wouldnt be the NHL playoffs without Brind'Amour bitchin' about something
Stop your whining and starting focusing on game 4. Make sure you have plenty of chewing gum with you
Score some damn goals and we’ll talk about the call
NHL is a joke.
It looks like he never ever stops inhaling through his nose lol
I've seen bad reffing throughout the years of playoffs, but this is by far the most pathetic.
ghost embellished extremely. watch the replay bro
I guess you weren't watching earlier in the game when Cousins was "actually" struck in the mouth with a high stick that drew blood and wasn't called? That should have been a double-minor. However, this particular play on Gostisbehere, where he clearly was not struck in the mouth and tried to embellish the call, is the most pathetic refereeing you've seen throughout all the years you've been watching playoff hockey? Tell me you're an upset Carolina fan with no knowledge of the game without telling me you're an upset Carolina fan with no knowledge of the game.
@@luvmy968 no knowledge? , I have watched all the Sutters play junior hockey in Lethbridge with Bryan Trottier, I was a huge Habs fan in the sixties, watching Beliveau, Cournoyer, thru the seventies with Lafleur, Shutt, Robinson.
Saw Clint Malarchuk's neck get severed and blood spewing all over.
Saw Ted Green and Wayne Maki get into a stick swinging incident and Green had a plate put into his head.
The Broadstreet bullies in the
70s and watched Larry Robinson destroy Dave Shulz.
I watch all the Olympics hockey, even watched the U. S. win the gold medal in Lake Placid.
Saw Jordan Eberle break a guy's neck, no penalty.
No, I'm an Oiler fan who loves hockey and seen a lot in my 65 years and I've never seen such pathetic officiating.
So, getting back to your comment, I know quite a bit about hockey.
@deanasplund123 So you think this one particular play was THE most pathetic non-call, EVER? That was my point. If you watched the game and saw the non-call on Cousins, you can't call this play pathetic. Furthermore, if there was a call to be made, it's two minutes for high-sticking on Reinhart and two minutes for Unsportmanlike Embellishment on Gostisbehere. However, with two minutes to go in the third period, the right call was to make no call at all and not take any players off the ice. 4 v 4 or 5 v 5, same result, let the players decide the game, not the refs.
And by the way, it doesn't matter how much hockey you've watched, that doesn't mean you know a hill of beans about the game.
@@luvmy968 this is the last I'll comment on this, by making these non-calls, the refs are deciding the outcome. That's what they get paid for. Have a good life.