I think he was hoping that they would figure it out. Sometimes it works out. Thats why there is pre-season and training camp to workout and try different lines and plays. I actually thought preds would be somewhere in top 3.
They did get the right players. All they needed was more scoring and they went out and got two of the best ones in free agency. You can argue they need more scoring depth, but I don't know how much you can improve. Something tells me there'll be a coaching change or the team will somehow figure things out.
@@MrHunterbgNo they didn't lol. They got older, slower while committing big money to these aging players. 7 mill for 7 seasons of Skjei is one of the worst deals of all time
There's one thing I find quite baffling. Everyone is talking about Nashville's struggles despite what they gained (Stamkos/Marchessault), but I don't hear anyone talking about what they lost. Neither of those star player acquisitions make up for losing Ryan McDonagh. He's the best stay at home D man of this generation. Rangers w/ McDonagh - perennial playoff team and legit contender 2013-2016. Rangers w/o McDonagh - Immediately plummet to last place after trade. Lightning w/ McDonagh - Upgrade from contender to league wide scourge. 14-3 record in playoff series Lightning w/o McDonagh - Lose to the Leafs in 6, Cats in 5. Bad defense and inability to hold lead were key factors in both losses. Predators +/- leader w/ McDonagh - Ryan McDonagh Predators +/- leader w/o McDonagh - Trick question. There are no +/- "leaders" here. Anyone that's watched his career will tell you that he belongs in the hall of fame when it's all said and done. He may not have sexy stats outside of his ridiculous career +/- but his impact has been significantly felt by every team he's played for.
I don’t know if that’s just solely because of McDonagh. Can’t speak for Tampa but the Rangers were well on their way to a rebuild with or without him. Granted he was the best player here for a few years but he wasn’t impacting the team as much for the last 1-2 years
@cptbluehawk57 One of the reasons the Preds will win (more reverse psychology) is they have the best penalty kill in the league. That also means you might not get any fantasy points since you've got 3/5ths of the Oil PP. Sorry man.
One thing the Preds really need to fix is that the pizza concession in Bridgestone Arena is controlled by Hunt Brothers Pizza. This is a gas station pizza brand. It’s like if the hot dogs were being sold by 7/11. Really hurts the game experience to know pizza isn’t a real option.
A lot of people are staying optimistic but I don’t agree. Not only do I predict that they won’t make the playoffs, I think this is the start of a full scale collapse and rebuild. Having this many players in their mid 30s signed to so much money and term is going to be a disaster for them
Nashville might as well have embraced a full blown rebuild when they traded Ekholm for Tyson barrie. With the amount of money they spent this offseason, they should be at least middle of the pack right now
they can still rebuild. they have 3 firsts and 2 seconds. its not like having these players change a rebuild. they can always trade these players they signed and retain salary and get back more picks. I suspect they will do just this the next two years. Stamkos is washed.
@@davidkruse4030 Rebuilding may be one of the best things to come to that team considering how even when it had seen playoff action it had not managed to win a series during the last several seasons or so.
@@davidkruse4030their hit on the salary cap 100% extends the rebuilding process. You can’t just snap your fingers and trade a salary cap albatross. Teams won’t be lining up to inherit Nashville’s mistakes.
Can't just place star players together and expect dubs. Maybe the Preds will turn it around and squeak into the playoffs. As of today, they're just six points back of the fourth spot in the Central.
The fourth spot is meaningless. The top 3 spots are all that matters in the standings. If they’re not in the top 3 you go to wildcard standings - and guess what? They’re dead last there 😂.
@PeopleRTellingme Yeah, wild card is what I meant. I probably didn't word it the in the best manner. As of today, it looks like the Aves at 24 points would have last spot out west if things ended today, and the Preds are 6 behind. They're certainly not in a good place now, but I think a lot of their poor play has been a case of underachieving. They recently beat the Jets pretty convincingly! If they play with half the intensity they played against Winnipeg, I think they'll look closer to the team everyone thought they'd be at the season progresses. But yeah, it's getting to the point of no return real fast for them. 🤣 Losing to a young Flyers team at home isn't exactly helping my case.
I kind of feel like the devils won the off-season. They addressed a lot of their needs and they just took out the Panthers and back-to-back games and outscored them 10 to 3 in those games. They're sneaky good
@lolfoff9999out of the 4 teams u named they’re the only one with a new coach and half of a new roster. they had a slow start especially after returning from europe. they’ve had 3 practice days because they’re playing more games than everyone else due to their horrible schedule. i’m not saying they’ll finish first in the metro but there is a lot of season left. both goalies are doing better now and the team is starting to gel. all the off season additions are contributing so saying they won the offseason isn’t far fetched
as a tampa fan, it was amusing hearing casuals and TSN analysts on and after july 1st, saying that "TaMpA dID sTaMkOs dIrTy" lol. people who actually watched him play, knew that steven's been a declining 5v5 winger for the past 3 years b4 signing with NSH. stammer hardly plays center anymore because he can't drive his own line. am happy for steven getting his "financial expectations" met with the predators. even happier that tampa isn't stuck holding the bag. 💯
As a Vegas fan sure I was bummed that Marchessault was gone, but realistically his team around him made him great, and you can argue that Eichel deserved the Conn Smythe as well. I didn’t think he was going to do as well in Nashville but man, Nashville is doing wwwaaayyyy worse than I thought they would.
I concur with your statement. Matchy was cool and a great personality, but it was the players...ahem Eichel...that enabled his output last year. I wonder if he is regretting not taking the deal he was offered by the VGK.
@korbendallas7181 you would have to be brainless and delusional to pretend the press are even close to as good as toronto. Also ror isnt close to a top line c on ANY good team.
i mean we still have a lot of hockey left this season so anything can happen until april. And some of the players who they brought in were on clubs they previously served for such long periods of time and it ofc takes a moment to settle into a new club
@@Ben_the_Rosafan That is a statistical outlier. The overwhelming majority of the time, if you haven’t figured things out by American Thanksgiving, you’re done, and Nashville is fast running out of runway.
@@Ben_the_Rosafan blues got super lucky though because teams in the central fell off late whic gave them room to jump in. Plus a lot of the guys the blues brought in were still prime players that never had playoffs success so they were hungry to make the playoffs. The guys the preds have brought in are old and 2 of them already have cups. They don’t have the same drive.
Just goes to show, looking good on paper does not equal great in reality! Teams that win championships usually do so because they have team chemistry, balanced scoring/defense, high speed & energy, and a solid consistent goaltender. Star power alone will not win you championships.
One problem the Preds had was so many home games in October. It was really tough on fans to show up night after night with parking and other associated costs and for week night games.
As a Wings fan, here's my take: I think the Preds have to fire Brunette just to spark the locker room. It's not totally his fault, but the team is floundering, and firing a coach is a proven way to light a fire. I think they'll get rolling, and maybe even go on a bit of a run to make up for lost points. Its a combo of bad puck luck, low team confidence/moral, and getting a lot of new faces to gel. If they can get it going, this team still has all the potential to be very dangerous come playoff time. They just gotta start getting some points.
Tied in 9th not 5th for beginning of season odds. Statistically, You still need to count the spaces accounted for by tied teams. It comes down to how many teams are in front of them.
Not just one player half a room full of veterans learning a new system, new staff/trainers, new city, little to no chemistry,on the phone with their old teammates. The vibe must be weird in that room here is the kicker their the leadership on this team too!
They saw how the Oilers played dead until Christmas, and decided they would try it too. It’s really simple. All they have to do is win like 19 of of the next 20 after that, and mission accomplished. Genius!
They still could turn it around, but I called this before the season started, as much as the team looked good on paper the new players were coming from organizations they played with for years and would have to fit into much different systems.. Much like Calgary a few years ago, the pieces just haven't gelled and they don't have a lot of time with aging players.
I think this is the hockey version of the Brooklyn Nets - getting all the best players on paper without thinking of getting the right players for the team.
They could turn it around , 60+ games left maybe they need time to gel. They beat the Canucks last night and Stamkos go two. Who am kidding I'm a wings fan so I root for underdogs.
I know I’m texting this at thanksgiving but as a predators fan you can go to stats and look at the power play and Penalty kill and we’re 1 in penalty kill and 11 on the power play. It just kinda sucks because there is so much hype going into this season. I mean our prospect pool is fine. Idk it’s just kinda annoying knowing that you have a team for Stanley cup contention and there not performing up to it. If we do go into a rebuild. It’s pro going to take like 3 years. We could rely on stammer filip and Josi for our younger guys rising up. That’s a way you could look at it
Brunette is a good coach but he was given a bunch of veterans that don’t fit in with the fast system he plays. He’ll likely be the scapegoat if things don’t turn around sadly
I think the Preds are the new Wild. Pay a few players so much money (Parise & Sutter) but can't win because of the amount of money tied up in a few players.
You simply can't rebuild a team in free agency. You can get great reinforcements and compliments and maybe even a star, but you can't just throw money at a bunch of 30-somethings that never played together and think that fix anything. The Rangers tried this same exact thing pre-lockout and ended up being so financially fricked the salary cap was implemented as a result. The Predators simply aren't a team, their a bunch of individuals. Whatever chemistry O'Reilly's presence brought has completely deteriorated.
You speak the truth, and I believe success (especially perennial) in team sports begins and ends with drafting and development. There are a few outliers like the 2020 Bucs (Brady, JPP, Suh, Gronk) and the Shaquille 'O Neal led Heat dynasty. You probably have better odds at a reverse sweep than building a championship All-Star Free Agent Merc Squad. I think this is especially true in hockey. Every dominant core from the last 20 years was built from within. Makar-MacKinnon-Rantanen Crosby-Malkin-Letang-Fleury Kane-Toews-Keith Kucherov-Point-Hedman-Vasi Ovi-Backstrom-Wilson
@boltinabottle6307 Exactly dude. I don't think there's ever been a team in NHL history built mostly through free agency, it's a league and a sport built on development, sometimes to a team's detriment admittedly. (2010s Oilers) Even most NBA superteams built through sign and trades and the like rarely work out. The KD Kyrie Brooklyn Nets are one of the worst collapses in recent sports history and same for Kobe and Dwight. Sacrifices have to be made to win championships, and sometimes that involves putting your ego aside, and some players simply won't do that.
who said they were rebuilding ? they have never really been a scoring team - have never really had a proven scorer besides Forsberg in the history of the franchise. So they went out and got two - not to drive the team - they are additional scoring - to take all the attention away from Forsberg . Skjei is a 2nd pair Defenseman that can move the puck - and again take some of the load off of Josi. That is not rebuilding - that is supplementing an already good roster - something has not worked so far. I have not watched their games so I can't really say what the problem is - I know that I am a strong up the middle guy - and as much as I like Ryan O'reilly I would be pretty nervous about sending him out as a 1C night after night at this point in his career. He has always been a below average skater - he has always made up for that in other areas - but sooner or later that has to catch up to you - as a 2nd or 3rd line center - taking defensive draws - fantastic but 1st line 20 min/ night - That's tough
Chicago is surrounding its youngsters with veteran players to protect them and help them develop. It’s not about winning now, it’s about imparting skills and traits on players so that they can win 4 years from now. Nashville expected to win now. Not a few years down the line. Now.
Ok I admit I was among those who said the Preds were going to be a top 4 team in the NHL (and a guarantee to make the conference finals in the playoffs)... This is a good reminder however that no team in NHL history has been able to go far without chemistry, roster balance, and a team identity (as a long suffering Leafs fan, I could write a book on how it's a bad idea to keep 'core' players who don't have what it takes to win together when it matters.... My HOPE for Nashville (because I like the team) is that they'll figure it out internally....but if need be let's hope they don't pull a Shanahan, Dubas, or Treliving by keeping a 'rotten core' together if it isn't working. The 'best' players aren't always the right players (I wish more people would understand this isn't basketball)....
They signed aging players that can only get worst. Not sure why people thought they won the offseason but clearly, those people forgot the history of such signings.
Marchassualt, Stamkos seem to bring nothing Predators need. It's not the first time big trades or contracts fall short, but it feels bad for the predators that actually had a good young team and bright looking future last season... just to end up with anchor contracts.
Stamkos was one of those 'name' signings who was living off past reputation. He's now a PP specialist winger, who had massively inflated numbers by Kucherov. Defensive liability when not on the PP, and declining with age. Useful in the right situation on the right team for about the $3M or so TB offered him. But an albatross at the $8M the Preds gave him being relied on to carry a 2nd line. Marchessault is a decent support player with Eichel and Stone caliber players, but Nashville doesn't have that for him. And he's getting up there in age too
As a VGK fan, I am glad the Preds gave Marchy the contract he wanted. With the guys we "lost" and dumping Lehner's salary from the cap, we have some breathing room. Hey, maybe Stoney won't need to be on LTIR from February 😂
As a blues fan you can’t believe how happy I am for Nashville to go all in now lol. Now it’s one less team to worry about in a few years when the blues are all in on making the playoffs. Knew this was going to fail as welll bringing in a bunch of old guys on the back end of your career is a terrible idea especially when they already have cups so they don’t have much drive to win one.
We just got shut out by fucking Calgary. 😡I can make the argument this is the most talented team Nashville has ever iced. At least offensively. But that offence puts teams to sleep. A team with RoR, Forsberg, stamkos, josi etc should not be the cure to insomnia. Saros is doing his best but dam!!! Score score some fucking goals
I’m not sleeping on them yet. I’m a Blues fan…… I know what it’s like to have the loudest off-season in the NHL. ONLY TO BE DEAD LAST ON CHRISTMAS. (We won the cup that year btw)
As a Jets fan, this has been fascinating to watch. In 2022, Trotz was the #1 choice to coach the Jets. He turned them down. Then he goes on to join the Preds and sign huge players. At the beginning of the 2024/2025 season, the pundits were raving about the Preds. On paper, the predictions were the Preds would do very well and the Jets may make the playoffs. After 17 games, the Jets are #1 in the league and the Preds are #28. Wow.
They got Marchessault, who is a legendary Jet killer. When he plays Winnipeg, he's better than Gretzky, Mario, and Crosby in their primes put together. Against the rest of the league, not so much.
Stamkos is a great player. He's not a game changer. Tampa would have won their 2 cups (they won 1, and I think Stamkos was hurt the third year) and made the finals the third year with or without Stamkos.
CORSI and SOG don't mean Jack 5hlt if all you do is shoot the puck in the goalie's jersey - which means there is some serious lack of creative play. And having this much talent on the team is inexcuseable.
From 2009 to 2011, the Predators had a very nice navy blue alternate uniform that had the skull of a saber tooth tiger as shoulder patches. It also had a checkerboard pattern inside the stripes. They even unveiled a white version that was used only once at a charity event. I thought those were going to be the primary uniforms but they went with the ones they have now. I have that alternate jersey and it's the only Preds jersey I own because I don't like the others.
Okay settle down. stamkos is like 35, marchessault is not even close to a point per game player, and skjei and wedgewood arent leading a team anywhere. calling this one of the biggest free agencies ever is an absolute joke.
They just can’t create offense, and they break down defensively way too often. They even get good goaltending. They would have 3 wins without Wedgewood or Soros. I’m a Panthers fan, I watch ALOT of hockey though. Every game I can.
Crusty old trotz thought he was glen sather circa 30 years ago and buy a cup, add to his legacy. It ain’t that league any more. A retooling team shouldn’t be signing older superstars
Barry trotz made the crucial mistake of getting the "best" players instead of the "right" players.
I think he was hoping that they would figure it out. Sometimes it works out. Thats why there is pre-season and training camp to workout and try different lines and plays. I actually thought preds would be somewhere in top 3.
They did get the right players. All they needed was more scoring and they went out and got two of the best ones in free agency. You can argue they need more scoring depth, but I don't know how much you can improve. Something tells me there'll be a coaching change or the team will somehow figure things out.
@@MrHunterbgNo they didn't lol. They got older, slower while committing big money to these aging players. 7 mill for 7 seasons of Skjei is one of the worst deals of all time
I mean my Avs did 2003-04 with Paul Kariya & Teemu Selanne
@@JBTriple8 My Wings did it with Brett Hull and Luc Robitaille in 2002 and we won the cup.
There's one thing I find quite baffling. Everyone is talking about Nashville's struggles despite what they gained (Stamkos/Marchessault), but I don't hear anyone talking about what they lost. Neither of those star player acquisitions make up for losing Ryan McDonagh. He's the best stay at home D man of this generation.
Rangers w/ McDonagh - perennial playoff team and legit contender 2013-2016.
Rangers w/o McDonagh - Immediately plummet to last place after trade.
Lightning w/ McDonagh - Upgrade from contender to league wide scourge. 14-3 record in playoff series
Lightning w/o McDonagh - Lose to the Leafs in 6, Cats in 5. Bad defense and inability to hold lead were key factors in both losses.
Predators +/- leader w/ McDonagh - Ryan McDonagh
Predators +/- leader w/o McDonagh - Trick question. There are no +/- "leaders" here.
Anyone that's watched his career will tell you that he belongs in the hall of fame when it's all said and done. He may not have sexy stats outside of his ridiculous career +/- but his impact has been significantly felt by every team he's played for.
Lightning fan, we LOVE McDonough. So underrated.
I don’t know if that’s just solely because of McDonagh. Can’t speak for Tampa but the Rangers were well on their way to a rebuild with or without him. Granted he was the best player here for a few years but he wasn’t impacting the team as much for the last 1-2 years
I always love the “they won the offseason” line. Calgary a few years ago was soo nice.
Canucks was the underdog team against the Predators in online betting. Every match without Demko as the goalie seemed to favour the Preds
Which, was insane.
Don't worry about the Preds tonight. I bet on the Oilers, which guarantees a Preds win.
I second this 😂
I hope not!
Come on bro
I have mcdavid, draisaitl and Hyman on my fantasy team
@cptbluehawk57 One of the reasons the Preds will win (more reverse psychology) is they have the best penalty kill in the league. That also means you might not get any fantasy points since you've got 3/5ths of the Oil PP. Sorry man.
Not sure whether that makes you an awful better, a masochist or both.
losing Sherwood and Lankinen to the Canucks is brutal
I'm surprised Trotz seriously thought that Wedgewood > Lankinen.
One thing the Preds really need to fix is that the pizza concession in Bridgestone Arena is controlled by Hunt Brothers Pizza. This is a gas station pizza brand. It’s like if the hot dogs were being sold by 7/11. Really hurts the game experience to know pizza isn’t a real option.
at prudential center we get medium rare chicken tenders for 20 dollars
nhl concessions really need an overhaul
A lot of people are staying optimistic but I don’t agree. Not only do I predict that they won’t make the playoffs, I think this is the start of a full scale collapse and rebuild. Having this many players in their mid 30s signed to so much money and term is going to be a disaster for them
Shades of the red wings in the mid 2010’s
I completely agree. Its going to get worse before it gets better.
Nashville might as well have embraced a full blown rebuild when they traded Ekholm for Tyson barrie.
With the amount of money they spent this offseason, they should be at least middle of the pack right now
Whether the Preds win enough games to get back to the middle of the pack remains TBD.
They spent foolishly tho.
they can still rebuild. they have 3 firsts and 2 seconds. its not like having these players change a rebuild. they can always trade these players they signed and retain salary and get back more picks. I suspect they will do just this the next two years. Stamkos is washed.
@@davidkruse4030 Rebuilding may be one of the best things to come to that team considering how even when it had seen playoff action it had not managed to win a series during the last several seasons or so.
@@davidkruse4030their hit on the salary cap 100% extends the rebuilding process. You can’t just snap your fingers and trade a salary cap albatross. Teams won’t be lining up to inherit Nashville’s mistakes.
Can't just place star players together and expect dubs. Maybe the Preds will turn it around and squeak into the playoffs. As of today, they're just six points back of the fourth spot in the Central.
The fourth spot is meaningless. The top 3 spots are all that matters in the standings. If they’re not in the top 3 you go to wildcard standings - and guess what? They’re dead last there 😂.
@PeopleRTellingme Yeah, wild card is what I meant. I probably didn't word it the in the best manner. As of today, it looks like the Aves at 24 points would have last spot out west if things ended today, and the Preds are 6 behind.
They're certainly not in a good place now, but I think a lot of their poor play has been a case of underachieving. They recently beat the Jets pretty convincingly! If they play with half the intensity they played against Winnipeg, I think they'll look closer to the team everyone thought they'd be at the season progresses.
But yeah, it's getting to the point of no return real fast for them. 🤣 Losing to a young Flyers team at home isn't exactly helping my case.
I kind of feel like the devils won the off-season. They addressed a lot of their needs and they just took out the Panthers and back-to-back games and outscored them 10 to 3 in those games. They're sneaky good
Getting Markstrom was a very underrated move
@lolfoff9999out of the 4 teams u named they’re the only one with a new coach and half of a new roster. they had a slow start especially after returning from europe. they’ve had 3 practice days because they’re playing more games than everyone else due to their horrible schedule. i’m not saying they’ll finish first in the metro but there is a lot of season left. both goalies are doing better now and the team is starting to gel. all the off season additions are contributing so saying they won the offseason isn’t far fetched
@lolfoff9999 lmao ok
@ ok i’ll circle back to this
@ you’re so obsessed LMAOOO
Tbh it’s pretty close between all the other teams in the bottom half of the league
as a tampa fan, it was amusing hearing casuals and TSN analysts on and after july 1st, saying that "TaMpA dID sTaMkOs dIrTy" lol.
people who actually watched him play, knew that steven's been a declining 5v5 winger for the past 3 years b4 signing with NSH. stammer hardly plays center anymore because he can't drive his own line.
am happy for steven getting his "financial expectations" met with the predators.
even happier that tampa isn't stuck holding the bag. 💯
The Preds will still finish top the 3 in the division and Stmakos is going to be a big part of that. Be better man
trashy fanbase
Tampa is a hockey team, not a retirement home. They made the right call 100%
@@paulwt9783Garbage person
@aaronsmith1474 TBL def doesn't do "thank you for your service" deals.
they're ruthless, maybe not as overt a out it like VGK is.
As a Vegas fan sure I was bummed that Marchessault was gone, but realistically his team around him made him great, and you can argue that Eichel deserved the Conn Smythe as well. I didn’t think he was going to do as well in Nashville but man, Nashville is doing wwwaaayyyy worse than I thought they would.
I'm gonna stick with Dorofeyev! GO KNIGHTS GO!
I concur with your statement. Matchy was cool and a great personality, but it was the players...ahem Eichel...that enabled his output last year. I wonder if he is regretting not taking the deal he was offered by the VGK.
I certainly hope this won’t ruin O’Reilleys love for hockey…?
Should've resigned in TO
@@marting1984 he still wants to win. Preds will turn it around.
@korbendallas7181 you would have to be brainless and delusional to pretend the press are even close to as good as toronto. Also ror isnt close to a top line c on ANY good team.
@@Gl-my8fw whatever you need to tell yourself Maple Laaf. He left Toronto two years ago because he saw the team... He was right lol.
i mean we still have a lot of hockey left this season so anything can happen until april. And some of the players who they brought in were on clubs they previously served for such long periods of time and it ofc takes a moment to settle into a new club
Reminder: The 2018-19 Blues were dead last at the New Year.
@@Ben_the_Rosafan yes that is very true
@@Ben_the_Rosafan That is a statistical outlier. The overwhelming majority of the time, if you haven’t figured things out by American Thanksgiving, you’re done, and Nashville is fast running out of runway.
@@Ben_the_Rosafan blues got super lucky though because teams in the central fell off late whic gave them room to jump in. Plus a lot of the guys the blues brought in were still prime players that never had playoffs success so they were hungry to make the playoffs. The guys the preds have brought in are old and 2 of them already have cups. They don’t have the same drive.
Just goes to show, looking good on paper does not equal great in reality! Teams that win championships usually do so because they have team chemistry, balanced scoring/defense, high speed & energy, and a solid consistent goaltender. Star power alone will not win you championships.
Ahem, *Leafs*
No way they'll get U2 tickets with this performance.
Lmao definitely not
As a Winnipeg jets fan, the season is still early not counting out the preds yet
That’s always the excuse people make. ‘Oh they’re out of it now but they’ll bounce back’. Other than the oilers last year it almost never happens
@@MattMallard-t1othey were in last place last season to but then bounce back and made it to the plays off
One problem the Preds had was so many home games in October. It was really tough on fans to show up night after night with parking and other associated costs and for week night games.
So good as always
Excellent piece. Subscribed and bell rung.
Thank you!
As a Wings fan, here's my take: I think the Preds have to fire Brunette just to spark the locker room. It's not totally his fault, but the team is floundering, and firing a coach is a proven way to light a fire. I think they'll get rolling, and maybe even go on a bit of a run to make up for lost points. Its a combo of bad puck luck, low team confidence/moral, and getting a lot of new faces to gel. If they can get it going, this team still has all the potential to be very dangerous come playoff time. They just gotta start getting some points.
Tied in 9th not 5th for beginning of season odds.
Statistically, You still need to count the spaces accounted for by tied teams.
It comes down to how many teams are in front of them.
This season has been very rough as a preds fan. I’m not ready for the rest I just want the nightmare to be over to be honest
That Skjei contract is gonna be a rough one for years to come
Not just one player half a room full of veterans learning a new system, new staff/trainers, new city, little to no chemistry,on the phone with their old teammates. The vibe must be weird in that room here is the kicker their the leadership on this team too!
Thanks for Lankinen and Sherwood - Canucks' fan.
"It's a little bit early to cut ties with a Jack Adams Finalist" aged horribly now that Montgomery's gone
Great video !
They saw how the Oilers played dead until Christmas, and decided they would try it too. It’s really simple. All they have to do is win like 19 of of the next 20 after that, and mission accomplished. Genius!
They still could turn it around, but I called this before the season started, as much as the team looked good on paper the new players were coming from organizations they played with for years and would have to fit into much different systems.. Much like Calgary a few years ago, the pieces just haven't gelled and they don't have a lot of time with aging players.
I think this is the hockey version of the Brooklyn Nets - getting all the best players on paper without thinking of getting the right players for the team.
Stamkos has been a defense liability for a while now. She's the Erica Karlsson of forwards.
Trotz thought he could copy Vegas
They could turn it around , 60+ games left maybe they need time to gel. They beat the Canucks last night and Stamkos go two. Who am kidding I'm a wings fan so I root for underdogs.
these guys should tried this in franchise mode first because stacking up in free agency never works
I know I’m texting this at thanksgiving but as a predators fan you can go to stats and look at the power play and Penalty kill and we’re 1 in penalty kill and 11 on the power play. It just kinda sucks because there is so much hype going into this season. I mean our prospect pool is fine. Idk it’s just kinda annoying knowing that you have a team for Stanley cup contention and there not performing up to it. If we do go into a rebuild. It’s pro going to take like 3 years. We could rely on stammer filip and Josi for our younger guys rising up. That’s a way you could look at it
Stamkos seems to be finding his game lately.
Brunette is a good coach but he was given a bunch of veterans that don’t fit in with the fast system he plays. He’ll likely be the scapegoat if things don’t turn around sadly
Yeeesh I hope they can pull this season off
I think the Preds are the new Wild. Pay a few players so much money (Parise & Sutter) but can't win because of the amount of money tied up in a few players.
Anyone who is a fan of hockey, an actual fan, knew this was a bad idea. This isnt the NBA. Buying up in the free agency doesnt pay off
The Preds aren't going to go on a run like Edmonton last year, but they will heat up. They're not a lottery team.
Maybe they'll go on a run like preds last year..
You simply can't rebuild a team in free agency. You can get great reinforcements and compliments and maybe even a star, but you can't just throw money at a bunch of 30-somethings that never played together and think that fix anything. The Rangers tried this same exact thing pre-lockout and ended up being so financially fricked the salary cap was implemented as a result. The Predators simply aren't a team, their a bunch of individuals. Whatever chemistry O'Reilly's presence brought has completely deteriorated.
You speak the truth, and I believe success (especially perennial) in team sports begins and ends with drafting and development. There are a few outliers like the 2020 Bucs (Brady, JPP, Suh, Gronk) and the Shaquille 'O Neal led Heat dynasty. You probably have better odds at a reverse sweep than building a championship All-Star Free Agent Merc Squad.
I think this is especially true in hockey. Every dominant core from the last 20 years was built from within.
Makar-MacKinnon-Rantanen
Crosby-Malkin-Letang-Fleury
Kane-Toews-Keith
Kucherov-Point-Hedman-Vasi
Ovi-Backstrom-Wilson
@boltinabottle6307 Exactly dude. I don't think there's ever been a team in NHL history built mostly through free agency, it's a league and a sport built on development, sometimes to a team's detriment admittedly. (2010s Oilers)
Even most NBA superteams built through sign and trades and the like rarely work out. The KD Kyrie Brooklyn Nets are one of the worst collapses in recent sports history and same for Kobe and Dwight.
Sacrifices have to be made to win championships, and sometimes that involves putting your ego aside, and some players simply won't do that.
who said they were rebuilding ? they have never really been a scoring team - have never really had a proven scorer besides Forsberg in the history of the franchise. So they went out and got two - not to drive the team - they are additional scoring - to take all the attention away from Forsberg . Skjei is a 2nd pair Defenseman that can move the puck - and again take some of the load off of Josi. That is not rebuilding - that is supplementing an already good roster - something has not worked so far. I have not watched their games so I can't really say what the problem is - I know that I am a strong up the middle guy - and as much as I like Ryan O'reilly I would be pretty nervous about sending him out as a 1C night after night at this point in his career. He has always been a below average skater - he has always made up for that in other areas - but sooner or later that has to catch up to you - as a 2nd or 3rd line center - taking defensive draws - fantastic but 1st line 20 min/ night - That's tough
They need a center, either a 1C or 2C and have the cap space to get one. Who's available though?
Not too many teams throwing them around - like ones in a strip joint
The thing is
The canucks offense fell apart qhen demko went down but the defense was fine
They’re biggest mistake was not bringing back Kiefer Sherwood
Thus begins the comeback story.
Nashville and Chicago are kinda the same, "this team would've been soo good like 3 years ago"
Chicago didn't expect to do shit. They just didn't want to be bottom of the barrel and they achieved that.
Chicago is surrounding its youngsters with veteran players to protect them and help them develop. It’s not about winning now, it’s about imparting skills and traits on players so that they can win 4 years from now.
Nashville expected to win now. Not a few years down the line. Now.
Preds have those 2018 Senators vibes
They just lost and the only thing anyone will remember is that mcdavid got his 1000th point
They’ve already played the Oilers 3x this season and lost every game.
Ok I admit I was among those who said the Preds were going to be a top 4 team in the NHL (and a guarantee to make the conference finals in the playoffs)... This is a good reminder however that no team in NHL history has been able to go far without chemistry, roster balance, and a team identity (as a long suffering Leafs fan, I could write a book on how it's a bad idea to keep 'core' players who don't have what it takes to win together when it matters....
My HOPE for Nashville (because I like the team) is that they'll figure it out internally....but if need be let's hope they don't pull a Shanahan, Dubas, or Treliving by keeping a 'rotten core' together if it isn't working. The 'best' players aren't always the right players (I wish more people would understand this isn't basketball)....
The Lightning probably made the right decision in hindsight to let Steven Stamkos walk
Excuse me??? Who won the offseason??? It wasn't Nashville. This was known before the season even began.
They signed aging players that can only get worst. Not sure why people thought they won the offseason but clearly, those people forgot the history of such signings.
At least they not the Flyers.
Marchassualt, Stamkos seem to bring nothing Predators need. It's not the first time big trades or contracts fall short, but it feels bad for the predators that actually had a good young team and bright looking future last season... just to end up with anchor contracts.
Stamkos was one of those 'name' signings who was living off past reputation. He's now a PP specialist winger, who had massively inflated numbers by Kucherov. Defensive liability when not on the PP, and declining with age. Useful in the right situation on the right team for about the $3M or so TB offered him. But an albatross at the $8M the Preds gave him being relied on to carry a 2nd line. Marchessault is a decent support player with Eichel and Stone caliber players, but Nashville doesn't have that for him. And he's getting up there in age too
As a VGK fan, I am glad the Preds gave Marchy the contract he wanted. With the guys we "lost" and dumping Lehner's salary from the cap, we have some breathing room. Hey, maybe Stoney won't need to be on LTIR from February 😂
As a blues fan you can’t believe how happy I am for Nashville to go all in now lol. Now it’s one less team to worry about in a few years when the blues are all in on making the playoffs. Knew this was going to fail as welll bringing in a bunch of old guys on the back end of your career is a terrible idea especially when they already have cups so they don’t have much drive to win one.
Predicting the Predators to make the playoffs is... bold.
It’s early in the season. I don’t put much weight on this time of year. But yeah preds are struggling
Saros.... Saros.... You Suck! It's all your fault! It's all your fault!
I wouldn't necessarily blame it on Saros, whole team has been pretty lackluster.
@ I know, I’m just mocking their chant. Bit of schadenfreude with their struggles for me
@@Taco1011 but he does. Askarov has way more promise
We just got shut out by fucking Calgary. 😡I can make the argument this is the most talented team Nashville has ever iced. At least offensively. But that offence puts teams to sleep. A team with RoR, Forsberg, stamkos, josi etc should not be the cure to insomnia. Saros is doing his best but dam!!! Score score some fucking goals
I’m not sleeping on them yet. I’m a Blues fan…… I know what it’s like to have the loudest off-season in the NHL. ONLY TO BE DEAD LAST ON CHRISTMAS.
(We won the cup that year btw)
What is coaching, Alex?
As a Jets fan, this has been fascinating to watch. In 2022, Trotz was the #1 choice to coach the Jets. He turned them down. Then he goes on to join the Preds and sign huge players. At the beginning of the 2024/2025 season, the pundits were raving about the Preds. On paper, the predictions were the Preds would do very well and the Jets may make the playoffs. After 17 games, the Jets are #1 in the league and the Preds are #28. Wow.
I warned you Nashville fans that it would be risky signing these older veterans who are not themselves they were 2 years ago
Clearly Sherwood was the lynchpin of this team
Just because you spent a shit load of money on 3 players doesn't mean the team will be good. Chemistry is huge.
Need a playmaking 2C with some speed and some reliable right-handed defensemen
Remember the last team to win the off season?
Calgary getting Huberdeau and Kadri hahahahhahahahahahqha
They got Marchessault, who is a legendary Jet killer. When he plays Winnipeg, he's better than Gretzky, Mario, and Crosby in their primes put together. Against the rest of the league, not so much.
You need chemistry not just star power this is the perfect example of a star team with zero chemistry
They should trade Marchesault to Edmonton for Jeff Skinner and a pick. It would help both teams
Stamkos is a great player. He's not a game changer. Tampa would have won their 2 cups (they won 1, and I think Stamkos was hurt the third year) and made the finals the third year with or without Stamkos.
CORSI and SOG don't mean Jack 5hlt if all you do is shoot the puck in the goalie's jersey - which means there is some serious lack of creative play. And having this much talent on the team is inexcuseable.
It's because of those awful yellow jerseys.
Wearing that yellow definitely has to has some kind of minute negative impact on the team lol Its distracting
I like'em. However when their announcers call that color gold it annoys me. I mean that's not gold, Vegas has some Gold in their stuff.
From 2009 to 2011, the Predators had a very nice navy blue alternate uniform that had the skull of a saber tooth tiger as shoulder patches. It also had a checkerboard pattern inside the stripes. They even unveiled a white version that was used only once at a charity event. I thought those were going to be the primary uniforms but they went with the ones they have now. I have that alternate jersey and it's the only Preds jersey I own because I don't like the others.
Welcome to Detroit!
No one saw this coming
All those long haul contracts 😮
Good.
im glad the devils didn't get Stamkos with that over bloated contract
Everyone knows the cups won in November. Cause everyone knew the oilers last year should have just blown it all up based on November. 🙄
I don’t feel as bad about being a Blues fan 🤣 during the off-season I was worried about them, not so much for now
Preds in the 2025 postseason? A bit early for that particularly given how many losses they have in regulation compared to wins.
this sounds a lot like the 2019 blues
As a Pred hater I'm okay with this. Lol
Jack adams
You mean the overachieving team award.
pylon defensive blunder stamkos on a defensive team, nuff said.
as a rangers fan, i coulda told you brady skjei is a bum. not sure why they went that route.
9:09
Thats not unlucky. Maybe they just suck at shooting and are washed.
When was the last time an NHL team that won the offseason ended up being one of the worst in the league?
IF that's worth something the Preds are 5-4-3 in their last 12 games so they're technically NHL positive?
Idk man this team looks cooked already
Okay settle down. stamkos is like 35, marchessault is not even close to a point per game player, and skjei and wedgewood arent leading a team anywhere. calling this one of the biggest free agencies ever is an absolute joke.
They'll be fine by the end of the season
They just can’t create offense, and they break down defensively way too often. They even get good goaltending. They would have 3 wins without Wedgewood or Soros. I’m a Panthers fan, I watch ALOT of hockey though. Every game I can.
“Marsh-a-so”? 😂
Calling Gloria
The Senators won the off season 2 years ago and look at what it got them lol
they just managed to ruin their team chemistry in offseason😁
Crusty old trotz thought he was glen sather circa 30 years ago and buy a cup, add to his legacy. It ain’t that league any more. A retooling team shouldn’t be signing older superstars