Ey ... the skill might be bad okay (who am I to say that btw) but your decisions are above IQ 90 which is over average! 😊 And you are a good Person that's what Matters. Also: You will be Better Overtime Like everyone usually does with practise
Love that you’re preaching responsibility as a content creator when so many other gacha YT’s are on the MUST PULL HYPE HYPE SWIPE train for every character. That’s what makes your channel so enjoyable to me. Definitely my favorite ZZZ creator hands down.
Exactly. On HoyoLAB I shared my favorite ZZZ content creator. You are one of them @@AverageLuckGamer because you so far the only one I saw who said "it's okay ... you don't have to pull everyone". Hoyo must hate you lol but I Love you for that!
I never even thought to put a different class's W-Engine on Caesar just for the Impact. Weirdly enough, that makes builder her even easier, since the best A-rank option for purely impact is actually the Demara Battery Mark II. It has the highest base attack and impact of the A-ranks. You sacrifice 1% of conditional impact compared to Original Transmorpher, but gain 100% uptime, higher base attack, and no need to P5 it.
TDIL that Anby's Wengine has higher base attack than the other stun engines! I genuinely thought the stat lines of A-rank engines were uniform, so then I went and checked all the support engines too and the signature engines in the support ones ALSO have 625 atk rather than the 595 that the non sig's all have, you learn something new everyday
yep, all in-game buyable wengine (with the chips from weekly/shiyu) start with 40 bast atk, and scale to 595. while all a-rank gacha only acquirable start with 42, and scale to 624. (some sites list 625, perhaps due to rounding, but in-game states 624) Same pattern occurs with s-ranks too. All standard start with 46, end at 684. Limited start @48 atk, end at 714
I'm personally waiting for Lighter leaks to come out to help me make my choice. Once I know his kit, I'll pick up whichever of Caesar or Burnice will work best with him. Caesar is obviously a more universal support but If Lighter ends up wanting to have 100% burn uptime on the enemy then I'll go for Burnice
Me too lol. Though the leaks of them making Lighter a 5 star after he was supposedly originally gonna be a 4 star had me fall to my knees because they’re really gonna have me getting 3 banner characters in a row. Luckily I’ve saved since the start of the game. Caesar and Burnice are essentially guaranteed but I’m gonna need some RNGsus blessings to get him
Sharp content as always ALG!! Here is why Caesar fits in my account (a testamonial) : First and formost Caesar is my type. But more rationally as someone who is trying to pull as little as possible. Having an agent that can wear many hats (well) like Caesar means she can defend my account from FOMO by being able to slot into holes in my teams, and be effective until an agent I really love comes around to fill it. Rather than feeling like I need to pull in order for the in complete team to be effective.
It’s physically impossible for me to skip Caesar. AFTER I pull her, then it will be possible for me to calm down and be more selective for who I pull for in the future. I’m new to gachas and have been playing ZZZ for less than 2 weeks so I have a lot to learn, but at least if I have Caesar, I can get by. I have to imagine I’ll be skipping Burnice which sucks, but the more I learn about the game and gachas in general, the more I realize I’m not going to be able to pull everyone unless I’m a whale. I’m still grinding a bunch of things that have been in the game at launch, but as soon as all the launch rewards dry up, I imagine I’ll fully appreciate how hard polychromes will be to come by.
Yeah, it probably feels like a lot of new stuff right now but you'll get up to speed if you stick with it. Check out my Beginner guide if you haven't already!
Shiyu defense and hollow zero are really good sources of polychrome since they refresh and net you pretty good amount. I don't like spending on gachas but this the only gacha I REALLY like so I do buy the thing that gives you 90 polychrome a day for a month adding up to 2700. Definitely worth it if you don't mind buying, it's extremely cheap.
@@giganticimpact8941 oh yeah that was a day 1 purchase for me. I can justify spending a little money on a game that’s free to play. Anything less than $70 is practically the same as buying any other game. It’s a nice little boost. Growth plan too is worth it imo BTW: I got Caesar on my first 10 pull! I was already pretty close to pity on my guarantee after failing to pull Jane after 150+ pulls lol. On the bright side my 50/50 loss was my first S11 and I love her
I really believe Caesar will be a "future" character. She is extremely good, and works on most teams, but we still don't know for sure in which teams she will be a *replacement*. I think this is an annoyance I have with the hype around her right now. She likely will not be the best pick for Jane Doe, both for her physical anomaly and disorder teams with Burnice, nor will she replace anyone in Zhu Yuan's team. It looks like as of right now, the main characters that will benefit from her most are Ellen (possibly), Soldier 11, Corin, and Billy. She seems like a very good "generalist" and will likely be a fantastic QOL character than can take a slot in most teams if you are missing a given dedicated support/ stunner. However, I am not convinced she will be outright BETTER than the specialized alternatives for some of our meta teams. I feel like this consideration for *who* you have on your account and which characters will actually benefit from her the most, is really important, and not enough people are having it about her pre release.
This is why I should pull Caesar. I don't have Lycoan so my current teams are Ellen/Soukaku Zhu-Yuan/ Anby/ Nicole Jane/Lucy They get the job done and S ranked 13 out of the last 14 shiyu defense nods this month, with a bit of patience but 2 out of those 3 teams could use help.
If you don't have Lycaon and Qingyi, Caesar is the best pull in probably a couple patches to improve the Ice and Ether teams. If you do have them, she's a minor upgrade/sidegrade and depending on the fight perhaps not even that especially at M0/W0
@@Luftgitarrenprofi I don't have either of them so Caesar is probably all I'll need for a while. And the versatility opens the doors for more options. Now I know what to do moving forward
Zenless is the first game that as a light spender I've already been able to S rank all the content this early and with only 2 limited units (Ellen and Jane). Crazy feeling to have an account that feels good enough to not get FOMO over the next units. Already have Grace for my disorder team but might pull Burnice cause shes cute ;)
It does feel a bit ironic how in your Qingyi video you were talking about "horizontal investment" when justifying not pulling for Qingyi because you have Anby, yet you still ended up pulling for Jane Doe even though you have a level 50 Piper, her W Engine and Nekomata.
I do not regret pulling Jane at all. Just Jane and Seth clear like 3 times faster than my other best team. Jane will eventually pay for her own polychrome with the free S-ranks in Shiryu Defense.
Praying she reruns soon 😅 I really like Jane but I *need* Caesar and Lighter. Will get his engine too if it makes his scarf become flames so I gotta save for now
I will pull Caesar since i have planned from the start of the game. For game purposes i have ellen and like to play ellen more, caesar will be very helpful for me since i have no lycon
i suspect with ever increasing conviction that hoyo is testing the effect of every enticement on the player base. you had to get zhu yuan because she was the most f2p friendly one, just get her and everyone already has the rest of her team. with jane doe they pushed the limits of degeneracy, like how hot can a character possibly get!? headphones recommended indeed. and now caesar is the most op stun/buff/debuff/shield character appealing to min-maxers. they're literally testing which method is most effective in baiting people to pull.
This video and you content in general have genuinely been super encouraging to me, zzz is my first gatcha, and I feel very far behind, even though I may have pulled Jane in around 30 tapes, these videos remind me that I don't need to spend insane amounts of money to catch up to everyone else. Thanks for your content, keep doing what you do :)
Ever since I saw Caesar King’s dripmarketing way back before Jane Doe’s release, I knew I had to skip Jane and Qingyi for her. Then Burnice’s dripmarketing dropped and it cemeted in my mind that I needed to save. I fought the FOMO around Jane Doe (She is awesome though. Going into Caesar’s banner, I have over 25k Polychromes, hopefully I can win the 50/50 to save chromes for Burnice.
My only limited SSR is Zhu Yuan, which I pulled on accident trying to get more copies of Nicole lol I'm glad I did though, simply because I lost the 50/50 on Ellen. I was very upset about that back then but since I made teams around Zhu and Lycaon, I've been able clear most of the end game content. FOMO is a bitch to deal with. I'm glad you discussed this.
Same as me, i was pissed losing my first 50/50 on ellen's banner, and got zhu yuan guaranteed. Now got jane doe with her w-engine and teams are set for endgame content 😊
Zhu Yuan and Lycaon the only 5 stars I’m rocking atm too. I think it’s more than viable to only be using one premium banner dps character at this point, which is why I’ve skipped Jane Doe in favour of Caesar. Also I’d rather grab non-dps utility banner characters first so they can prop up some later dps who will power creep all the other dps
I've got about 120 with Caesar guaranteed and 10 pity in already, I really want her W engine too but if i pull for it I'd put myself at risk of losing the 50/50 on Burnice 😞
I started the game last sunday and got enough for Jane 50/50. I pulled her in the first 10 lmao imagine how happy I was. Still debating if I should get Caesar though
Good stuff man I'll go for Ceasar fight the 50/50 if I lose it's okay. I skipped zhu yuan so I can lose a 50/50 and it's okay gotta get someone to replace main dps in second team
I felt the same exact way that you feel about Caesar, about Jane. So I decided to just do a few pulls and hope I get lucky. Got her AND M1 Seth in 20 pulls and then got Seth’s weapon on my first 10 pull. So I got everything I wanted in 30 pulls total lol. So there’s no harm in doing a few 10 pulls and if you don’t get anything, then cool you have pity for the next banner, and if you do, well then you barely wasted any polychromes lol. You have said yourself there’s no harm in building pity so long as you actually want the S rank on banner lol.
Hoping AverageLuck becomes the face of reason amongst the gacha community. More people ought to watch your videos and I hope this channel soon gets even more attention. Keep it up! 👍👍
I think the most important thing that this is a lesson for is: a unit like Jane might be amazing, but if you don't like them, don't pull them. There's other paths. People probably don't consider a Soldier 11 fire team to be potent, but I clear just fine with it. Or, Billy Nicole and Qingyi, which I clear fine with. People don't want to use "those weak four stars" and so Anton Seth Anby teams won't even be considered, nor anything else, thus, people artifically feel that there's "not many options so I need to pull". No. No you don't. You don't need to full clear S.D. or anything else. It gives you maybe one or two more pulls on average if you do like half of it already. It's okay to wait. If you wanted Jane and got her, for those watching, then be happy in that :). Don't chase after anything. I saved for Caesar and did like two or three multis on this banner for fishing for Seth and got him, then bounced. That's literally ALL the pulls that I've done not counting the free standard pulls that we got from the game registration rewards and whatnot launch stuff....I joined like two weeks into the Ellen Banner and didn't know if I liked her so I skipped. It's fine. Just wait. You don't know what is around the corner. Lighter or Big Daddy might get drip leaked, or another character, or maybe a Section 6 character...or hell, it might be a Eula situation where she comes out of nowhere like in Genshin. Or Kazuha. You never know these things so just WAIT a week into a banner to truly see if you want the character.
I want to use any unit to clear, but reality is that they are much harder to build good. Plus resources are always limited, so building all characters is not an option, at least if you are trying to get good disks
Caesar is only for casuals who cant dodge properly so Im not gonna pull for he- Ah who am I kidding, I eat hits all day everyday Im pulling for mah queen
Didnt get rat lady because I've wanted Caesar since I saw her in beginning trailer with all the different factions. Literally all the amazing stuff that come with her is just an added bonus. Plus I feel like Piper is a fine enough physical anomaly character.
same, might even be the first W-engine i pull. depending how fast i get caesar. I still got the battlepass def w-engine to fall back on. Im going to make a (HOPEFULLY) pretty good S11/Lucy/Caesar team that just buffs the hell out of S11
I know Caesar would be great but as F2P, jane is such an amazing lead physical character that i feel like getting that extra really powerful fire from burnice would stack fire and disorder like crazy, especially since i havent gotten lucky enough to pull soldier 11 yet, and a lot of the recent missions are based one fire/physical weakness. Jane already stacks physical so much as my lead that Caesar just seems redundant for me. I didn't even realize it was a 50/50 shot until jane since i got lucky with the zhu yuan pull. I lost the jane doe pull but luckily with a few more rolls i ended up getting her before the guarantee. After that experience, I'm gonna make sure i can get the next character and i just cant do that with Caesar; there just isn't enough time as a F2P.
I'm trying my best to not get a rat because I already have a cat... And their movesets are similar and they have the same element. Caesar will help the cat... and I'll focus on getting 5* Ice and Electric Elements in the future.
literally in the SAME position as you. i’ll make do for physical teams with neko and ESP with caesar, then just save for whatever character they release next. so far every character has been very strong so i’m looking forward to see what they cook up
Thanks for the video! Your Jane Doe analysis videos convinced me to pull for her and the Wengine. If Bernice synergizes well with Jane Doe I might consider trying to win 50/50 but otherwise I’m saving for Miyabi or Zhu Yuan re-run because you’re right I’m completely broke now haha😅
@@AverageLuckGamer So true! Even now with Jane Doe using Rainforest Gourmet and unmaxed skills and level(no Dennies to upgrade🫠) she just wipes stages that took me much longer to clear before! Assault is so satisfying to proc and see the big numbers, combat stages are much easier to clear now so I’m glad I pulled for her. Looking forward to the upcoming videos!
Your argument for not trying to pull doesn't really make sense. Assuming you want the unit, it doesn't matter if you only have enough for the 50/50 attempt, because if you fail, that progress still carries over to the next banner you'd want a character on anyways, you'll have guaranteed next time. So really you're just delaying when you attempt your 50/50, and denying yourself even the chance to pull Caesar in this case. And especially if a banner has boosted A-Ranks you want, it's extra useful to be doing pulls into it to try and get cinema unlocks.
Thanks about the W-Engine tip! I even lucked out and have a few of that specific fossil w-engine already. I lost my Qingyi 50/50 so I decided to stop, and I'm planning to use my guarantee on Ceaser for her still solid stunning capabilities and party wide buffs.
can't risk pulling caesar with yanagi / miyabi on the horizon. just playing the game for fun. and jane is very fun. don't care about sweating in super difficult modes that don't give rewarding enough rewards.
I feel that Caesar will age very well since: - you can put her in any team - She is practically a hybrid of Stun+Support which leaves you with a free slot for a second support to hyperbuff your Main DPS - She will probably be indispensable for characters who want to spend a lot of time on the field without being interrupted or who have long combos. - She is currently one of the only characters with Grouping besides Nicole which in itself is a valuable niche when you are dealing with waves of enemies - I feel that with the addition of Seth and now Ceasar the game will enter a Defender META where shields will be very valuable to have. However I can understand the logic of those who prefer to skip her and wait for more specialized supports.
It's honestly bonkers how flexible she is. Literally any core of DPS+Support of the same element will work perfectly with her, as long as either of them has the right kind of assist.
Nice aproach to your decisions, I watched another CC talking about teams compositions for Jane and what impressed me was that for Jane disorder team Ceaser is not required and in my account I already have good stunners and I will skip her for Burnice to make a more consistent team for Jane
I'm a newer player also (not new to gacha games) and the Gacha gods must have been with me because I have four S ranks already and I've only been playing for about a month and a half.... I came in on the the very last 4 days of the banner before Janes (I can't remember who it was) I have Jane, I have Lycan, I have Rina, and I have Grace all in this month!!! And I know that won't ever happen again for me (at least if Hoyoverse has a say in it lol) but I'm blessed to be starting this game on the right track so far.... FYI I did have to grind like crazy to get enough pulls to get lucky enough. I did all the events and did a lot of side quests, so yeah there's that lol
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I will say that I do respect everyone's decision on who to pull for including yours my man. As much as I do wanted to get both Caesar and Brunice, I have to win both 50/50s but truth be told that I won't be able to get Burnice assuming that if I may lose the 50/50 for Caesar and it's a gacha game at the end of the day. I'm still going all in for Caesar if I have to (at least one copy obviously) because she looks like Eula from Genshin lol
I’m on the fence on Caesar. I feel like her generalist nature either is her biggest bonus or weakness. Like Shoukaku is still a better support for ice; Nicole for ether, etc you’re going to have elemental buffers, then a dps, and then that third slot. Is it a stunner? Is it a double buffer? Who knows. For someone like Jane doe double buffer makes sense since Jane wants field time. Meanwhile Zhu Yuan only wants to pop out and say hi after the stunners done all the work. I suppose too that’s something to consider. Can she be stun enough and buff enough to justify taking her over a stunner or a buffer? I don’t know. I do know I want her her. But I want section 6 agents and the up coming furry agents more, and I don’t know if she’s worth the gamble
I feel all the limited DPS team is really good right now that Caesar won't make a huge different in any of them. The only one I can think of is Shoukaku since her buff is the same and that shield can help Ellen do her N3 without interruption. So I think she can be skipped if you want future characters.
@@Amos-xn8vv honestly I’m wondering if the better investment isn’t Caesar’s engine? Like on Seth that’s 18% impact, plus 15% damage boost and Seth can give people his shield. You could then build him to be more stun oriented, 18% wengine, 18% 6th slot, and then 6% shock star 2 piece, Suddenly Seth can boost the party’s damage by 30%, drop shields and AP buff on people. And be a pretty legitimate stun support with +42% impact and 20% anomaly shred. Yeah Seth will take an attack but for shield but the proto punk set will help make up for that and you’ll be doing more damage and stunning quicker as a result
@@jolunrohthocoudis526 I'm not a fan of rolling W-engine, but Caesar's one is definitely not worth it. You can use any stun W-engine with an impact substat and it's good enough. I'd wait for a versatile W-engine for DPS instead.
@@jolunrohthocoudis526 I understand it's great for all shielders, but for the same amount of pull, Caesar is more efficient. Unless you're willing to wait for another better shielders or really want to upgrade Seth, Ben. In which case, go for it, good luck mate.
So far, I've been trying to pull DPS units, but failing 2/3 50/50's, and then getting the following support unit. The only exception to this, was Ellen, and my pulls got me Lycaon at the 50 perm mark, and then MC6 Soukaku from pulling Ellen. After that, I got S11 and Brimstone (which went on Ellen) instead of Zhu Yuan, and then Grace instead of Jane, letting me pull Qingyi and now Caesar later. I was admittedly ticked off at first, but in retrospect, I think the game is steering me to more complete, powerful teams with more future-proofed supports.
Solid advice and whatnot. I personally kind of feel at this point f2p should only be rocking 1 of the premium banner dps characters (outside of good luck). Caesar seems like she adds much more value long term than a second dps does at this point to me. And Burnice being a premium anomaly unit seems like she will too, I dunno. Obviously wife over meta but they’re all wife material lol. And I’ve been partial to the Sons of Calydon ever since we got a glimpse of them in the launch trailer so I’ve essentially chosen both Caesar and Burnice over Jane Doe and zero regrets. Jane Doe is awesome mind you but a physical dps seems like the fastest to be powercrept. I mean, Caesar with a dps build already seems like it’s gonna be on her level at this point. Also…they kind of blew their load with the Jane Doe marketing to a degree that it makes me feel like we’re gonna get way sexier characters down the line and Jane Doe gonna be the one we look back on and think about how modest the characters used to be lol Also. Qingyi isn’t really my vibe in terms of play style (her stun is wayyyy too mashy) so I skipped her but I have way more respect for anyone who chose Qingyi over any of the 3 dps premium banner characters at this point because I feel like they’re rocking the big brain with it for real
tbf, everyone is terrible compared to that one person that mains Billy and goes hitless lol That said, the waifus of calydon are a must pull for me cause the pull value of them is happiness from design alone 😄
Cool non-bait vid. I skipped Ellen, Zhu yuan and Qingyi. Although I liked their playstyle especially Ellen's but I had to make a choice. Pulled for Jane and going for Caesar only because of waifu reasons. Edit: Also I agree with your Caesar WEngine suggestion. Original transmorpher gives impact BUT that combat impact while it is higher than 4* stun engines it does not affect her shield. So as f2p with average luck I will go with your idea and use Anby's engine for her since that one affects her shield.
Did one pull on the Jane banner, surprisingly got a S rank at zero pity but lost. Saving that guarantee for Caesar and Burnice then use the remaining on Miyabi hopefully coming much later.
I think f2p and low spenders should skip a dps character like jane for a stun/support character like ceaser as the later is better in terms of versatility and longevity. Jane can be powercrept anytime by another anomaly dps or a phys attacker but even if there is a stun char who has better stun and dmg multi than ceaser, she can still be used as a support which makes her very future proof. That being said, I totally get your pov tho. You already have 2 good teams and don't necessarily need an upgrade. So skipping ceaser for burnice might be the best choice here
I constantly tell people about how any Impact W-Engine is probably better on Caesar than any Defender Engine option, and they always want to argue back that Transmorpher is better... At least there is one sane person that had the same idea as me.
For Virgil / Miyabi Simp. After I got Jane I got around 27k polychrome left. I probably skip everyone like I skip Ellen, Zhu Yuan, and Qing Yi. (Shiyu Defense struggle continues)
I see people talking about owning piper, I really am that 1%, huh. This is why i've optimised my corrin with the 150 crit damage (as of now) for Caesar. The only thing that will have me double take on pulls is harumassa( i probably butchered his name) but i like dual swords into a bow. Besides that my "kink" is a radiant smile, and ceasar had that when we were doing the NEPS investigation event. So i said " I've seen enough, I'm satisfied".
Im going for Ceasar! I've wanted her since the original trailer like 2 months ago. Probably after this, Im going for Miyabi or Asama. The one I want to get but probably wont be able to get is Lighter. He looks cool.
But didn't you say f2p/low spenders should skip Caesar like 3-4 videos ago? I planned on going for her anyway just seeing how much a high QoL and long term pick up she would be, but just curious for what changed
@@blurryeyes1918Or hear me out, people find Caesar not that interesting despite her being good? Caesar's character design is by the coolest in the game for me and I liked the look of her over any other agent back when she first got leaked, however, when her gameplay came out and this update dropped and I played her... It made me happy I pulled on Jane. (And will save for Burnice instead) I didn't care for Burnice's look but after using her in her trials she's silly fun. As the OP, I too am a f2p/low spender and "Meta" in a game like this isn't really THAT important considering every agent in this game can clear every single piece of content the game has to offer atm. I'm here for what feels fun to play over everything. Jane is fun, along with Burnice. Sadly Caesar looked too boring despite how cool she looks for me.
@@crimsonraiza3633 She's amazing in combo with Jane tho. Think of Caesar as more utility for your favorite dps. I pulled Jane as well for her play style, and now with Caesar can hit big 1m burst DPS in HollowZero.The anti-interrupt makes Jane even more fun to play as well. Highly recommend her for your future units as hers buffs are almost universal as far as what teams she is amazing on and most likely won't be power crept for quite a long time👌🏽
@@crimsonraiza3633Oh and she doesn't have to be on field long either it's easy to just get your buff/debuff on enemy, and assault off easy then switch to Jane(or Seth for the stun then to Jane and have all buffs if your using that team), then go ham with Jane and delete everything lol
Original transmorpher is Final Impact so it multiplies with your disk 6, so it should beat out stun engines. It’s cheaper to R5 a craftable and leave it at lvl 1 than to lvl 60 a stun engine
I'm considering Caesar because I only have Jane as limited character, hopefully Caesar will make my Corin/Anton strong or comfortable to play on shiyu defense
I can't judge how well you play but this is definitely better than what I can do and that's good enough for me. In general being mediocre in gacha is probably better for your concept anyway so don't worry about your performance!
I'm quite lucky because I only started playing about 3 weeks ago, just before Jane's banner went live and I managed to get her in 52 pulls and I've just been saving. Skipping every weapon cause it's not needed and have had tons of content to catch up on and do and right now I'm up to 18k Polychromes and still got more things to get through. Hoping to get both Caesar and Burnice (but I will prioritize Caesar if I need to cause damn she's just too freaking hot). And hopefully in 1.3 I can then recover a bit and save some Polychrome again cause I'm not pulling Lighter at all. Don't need no stinking dudes in my game. Either way I think I'm in a good position. (Technically I'm kinda F2P, but I did get the monthly pass cause I mean it's only $5.
"You know who's a must-pull because you know who you want to pull for." Very real. I've been F2P thus far with my account and Caesar is a must-pull for me to the point where I'm willing to spend in order to make sure I get her and her W-Engine. I've gotten very lucky with my limited agents thus far, having all but Ellen, but this character is the one I need on my account because it's the type of gameplay I liked the most. I was a Beidou main in Genshin from launch until I stopped playing in 2.3, it matters a lot to me that I get Caesar.
@@BladetastersDelight Jane is anything but a trap, she is the most future proof dps in the game. The amount of anomaly teams she is going to fit on is gonna be insane.
I am always for just getting the characters you like the most, if you don't like them, don't get them. I wanted Jane because she is sexy af and her combo's are cool... it doesn't have to be deeper than that I personally am gonna roll for every limited character I see but I totally understand wanting to skip since statistically your likely gonna hit the pity cap before you get a S agent but who knows, you could get 10 S Agents back to back, anything is possible and that's the fun of gacha games to begin with
Was already planning on skipping Caesar because I want Burnice (which playing the MSQ kinda confirmed for me I think I'm gonna love pairing her with Jane and getting hella Disorder). Decided to throw just a YOLO 10 pull at the Caesar banner. Immediate 50/50 loss. Technically a great outcome as per my plan, because it means I'll be confident strolling into the Burnice banner, I guess.
I'm a low-spender (City Fund + Subscription) on ZZZ and I was heavily torn on either getting Jane or Caesar because I clearly wasn't going to have enough for both + Burnice (my 1st of two MUST HAVE picks leading into the winter, the other being MIyabi), I was saving up to 15K Poly + 18 Encrypt Tapes ever since getting Qingyi and made out a two-headed plan based on what I was gonna do. With Jane on the way out I ultimately decided yesterday to pull based on banner strength: Caesar's banner ultimately doesn't do anything for me outside of Caesar herself (I don't use Anton and I already have him at max Cinema, and while I do have Piper decently built up I haven't been using her much lately, plus I'd rather had chanced getting Jane for my main Physical Anomaly Agent over getting more Piper copies). All that plus I still enjoy using Anby and wanted to max her Cinema out plus Seth is a very cool defensive unit to change getting (and the only one I could see myself actually building up, just don't like using Ben personally). Lo and behold I not only maxed out Anby's Cinemas but also pulled Jane (on the 50/50 no less) early, within my 1st 50 pulls, and wound up getting Seth in my very next 10-spot. So, I got super lucky going against the grain and decided to pull more on Jane's banner since I highly doubted that I'd get another early S like that so soon, which I also normally don't do, but again it seems I really lucked out. Now I go into Caesar's banner with only about 5K Poly, but with soft pity right around the corner within 15 pulls for another 50/50. I only intend to pull once or twice in order to cash in on that 50/50 on Caesar since I've literally won my last 3 50/50s back to back (Zhu Yuan, Quigyi and now Jane), and then no matter what happens, not pull again until Burnice's GOATed banner is active since I'm really hoping to get her (plus get Lucy and Nicole copies). Not expecting my luck to stay as it is, but hopefully things work out on my favor since I'm planning on hard-skipping all of 1.3 to save for MIyabi. You're channel is my go to for ZZZ content, and I really hope you keep up these tips, since your insight kind of serves as my "caution" rules to prevent me from going too overboard.
The complexion of things have shifted from last night's announcement of Yanagi. I'm not too sure that there's ever going to be a situation where I'm looking to run triple Anomaly cause of the utility I'd sacrifice to do it, so it's probably best to grab caesar for sure and pick between Burnice and Yanagi once more details leak.
I have just four polys to my name and under a week left. Damn, am I gonna miss Caesar while she's gone. With that in mind though, I am hopeful I can somehow make the 20k requirement for when Lighter graces us with his presence. Thanks for the guides, man. They remind me to stay my hand and not be a whale.
Just as broke with pulls 55 pulls and waiting for Burnice banner. Currently trying to get trough Withering Garden max difficulty with one character :D its pretty good experience strongly suggest.
Man so I missed out on zhou yun , lost the 5050 on the ice lady, got quinyi in 10 pulls, and in only 30 pulls into Jane doe and no dice so far. I’m thinking I’ll pull on Jane does banner and if I lose I’m happy and if I win I’m happy, and if I lose on Caesar’s banner then I can’t complain!
I have been grinding this game out daily since the minute it launched, and somehow only just now in this video did I realize you could equip characters with wengines from other specialties
I lost 50/50 10 pulls after getting Jane so I could get Caesar, however as much as I would like Caesar I want Burnice more, although I am in a similar situation where my Zhu Yuan needs more of an upgrade than my Jane so maybe Ill get her based on that but for now I am skipping.
I skipped Jane and Qingyi so I'd like to roll for Caesar and Burnice. But knowing my luck I wont get both, so I'll try to get Caesar but if I lose 50\50 I'll save for Burnice
I decided not to pull for Jane; Piper will do the job for now, so I'm going for Caesar. The real debate is whether or not to pull her engine-18% damage boost for the whole party is pretty huge!
I haven't looked at Caesar enough to fully decide if I want to get her or not. Like you, my only premiums are Jane and Zhu Yuan, and they're both fine with Seth/Grace or Rina and Anby/Nicole respectively. But I'm an SnS main in Monster Hunter, and hearing she scales off Impact has me curious because before Jane I spent the longest time being sad that Anby was my only stun agent. The trouble with how the characters are releasing (for us, not the company), is that by sticking all the team members near each other, it incentivizes us to want to pull on consecutive banners, which is something I probably can't do consistently eveh as a $5 monthly spender. I want Caesar, and I feel I really want Burnice since I have all the other anomaly user, but I don't know which one helps my teams more, or if they'd help each other much. Lastly, as hype as it is to finally have a premium Dude, I was hoping Lighter would be an A rank on this patch. Having a new A rank character always makes banners more exciting for me, and after having one just about every patch in HSR, seeing them try up there and be infrequent here hurts
Well i talked about it yesterday in your discord. I lost my 50/50 to s11 again. I am legit not sure about the play here. Currently have s11 m1, koleda m1, ben m6w5 and lucy m4w1. After losing Jane’s banner a few very helpful community members were saying to just go for Burnice rather than committing to Jane. Since i already have zhu yuan m1w1 and qingyi m0w1 with nicole m6w5. What are your thoughts ALG?
Your Zhu Yuan team is good and you S11 team is good. Honestly, I'd just pull whoever you want at this point. Burnice would potentially be good for your second team but probably not a necessity. Might just be worth seeing what comes up after Burnice, the fact that you got Mindscapes for your S11 and Koleda probably mean that your second team is good without her if you wanted to skip.
@@AverageLuckGamer the good news at least with waiting for after Burnice is that I will have some insight as to who comes afterwards. The only reason Burnice caught my attention was the new set that compliments fire and electric. Since soldier 11 wants as much field time as possible it could be a great way to keep ignition active on the target and then run Koleda or lucy for stun and support. I do get the vibes thag Cesar and her compliment each other but I don’t think i can muster enough pulls for both of them before time is up. Appreciate you and your content ALG!
Idk man, Caesar looks like a strong pick, but I really like Burnice, so I wish she was in the first half, so I can get her and then go for Caesar if I have enough pulls left and after the announcement of the next batch of characters 🌝
I am a Miyabi Saver, no limited Banner pulled on so far, but I am running out on Fading Signal to get monthly 10 Pulls from Shop and so far Miyabi is not in sight. So I may pull the Trigger on Caesar, get her and her Engine and continue saving until Miyabi. I only was barely able to Beat Shiyu with mere seconds left on the Clock so I hope caesar will elevate this to to have much more breathing room. I hope my funds will not fall apart...
I’m pulling Caesar for my Ellen, and future multiplayer modes since I have a guarantee. Plus I got Jane and her engine as a f2p. It’s really about investing correctly at the end of the day. I probably will be hoarding polys for the second half of 1.2 to 1.4 but that’s fine.
So far I'm 50/50 on banner pulls, Zhu is sadly missed every day, but I can say for sure it's basically set at this point that you can only really get every other character if you're not paying, minus some great luck. This is my first Hoyo game but I've been all in, and I really do want Caesar so in a sense I'm actually glad I didn't get Jane. I can only hope every character from now on gets as many detailed animations as she got gifted though.
I play Honkai Star Rail, Wuthering Waves, and Reverse: 1999 and recently just started ZZZ. I played it on release, but put it aside until about 5 days ago. I lost my 50:50 to C1 Lycaon on Jane's Banner. I need a 2nd DPS (I have soldier 11 on team 1 and Corin as the 2nd DPS), but like in other gacha games support/defense characters are king. I'm think of pairing Caesar with Corin or taking Ben off the Soldier 11 team. Corin's team is solid with Sokaku - Corin - Lycaon. Thoughts? I am only IK33.
As a f2p player, I picked up Caesar and her weapon, which is probably not advisable. My main team was C1 Lycaon with Ellen. I just have Caesar running with Lucy and Piper and it's an unstoppable force. I'm not sure if I can get all the Shiyu S ranks with my teams but by god it was the best decision I could have made to get both. I still have enough for a 50/50 so I'm happy. I also took the opportunity to buy Lycaon his S rank weapon because I could and he's special to me because he was my first 2 S rank pulls.
Yeah, I have two strong teams that can clear the shiyu defense easy (Qingyi/Zhu yuan/Nicole and Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku), I got really lucky and won all 50/50 so far as a low spender, I pulled and got Jane because... cmon she is really cool, now I gonna skip Ceaser because I don't have enough resources for her and because I really want Burnice to add to my future Jane/Seth/Burnice team.
I started during Qingyi banner, but wasted a lot of pulls on standard in the first week. Ended up at 80/90 for qingyi, then skipped for Jane even though I could have gotten Qingyi. Needed the Limited DPS more, and wasn't actually swayed by the dump truck. Going for Caesar purely for gameplay ngl. Her utility is my favorite kind of thing in a character, but that sword and shield, parry playstyle is calling my name. Was originally going to pull on Burnice banner for Lucy and Nicole copies, and then wait for 1.3 marketing, but idc anymore. I gotta have Caesar. She just looks so fun and strong.
just some corrections for things you've said, transformer's passive (as far as ppl are saying) doesn't actually change her shield value, since she scales on pre combat impact, also the weapon passive triggers on defensive assists, so you kinda have 100% uptime on it, cuz you always want to switch to caesar with a defensive assist
I got extremely lucky as f2p and got lycaon, ellen and zhu yuan. Currently planning to save up for Miyabi since she is the coolest in my eyes for now. I should pull for an anomaly/support but I really don't need it now. Maybe Lighter is going to change my mind
Just popped in to be one of the commenters to tell you you're awful at the game /s Seriously speaking I'm glad you make videos for the non-min/max crowd and don't make overly hyper videos froth with clickbait titles like "CAESAR BEST UNIT? MUST PULL!" keep doing what you're doing please!
as someone who started the game just 4 days ago and haven't even builded up enough polychromes for a 50/50, skipping this banner seems the right thing to do, specially if the section 6 operator are coming next, i really want Miyabi on my account so i will be saving for her and her module
I feel lucky to pick up the just around this time (at the start of the Jane banner) Just in time to learn about Caesar and Burnice. No secondary team just a Cunning Hares team and Pipper and Lucy half way leveled but alone......then here comes the perfect missing piece.
My pull logic is the same as yours: I'm skipping until I can lose a 50/50 and still go all the way to hard pity. However, I am skipping Jane because: 1) the former, and 2) I will build Piper as a replacement. I was off guarantee, so I did drop 30 pulls for Seth and got M3+W1. (I guess that counts as "building pity"?) My Physical team is kinda weak right now. It needs a front liner to help Piper and Corin. Caesar or Lycaon would work fine, so I'm pulling for Caesar in her banner. The worst thing that could happen is actually that I WIN Jane, because that still leaves a weakness in my Physical team. Sadly I'm gonna need to skip Burnice, but 1) that's how low spender (BP+IK) works, 2) my Fire team is okay (Ben/Lucy/S11), and 3) I don't have the mats to level new characters if I get them at that rate. Seth is already draining my mats, and I'm gonna be hard-pressed to level Caesar. For the far future, I'm not actually interested in Miyabi, but I want to see Trigger, since she decimated the enemies in the TV Mode. I am considering skipping Section 6, and investing in Obol Squad.
I grinded almost all poly in the game for the rat after getting a nekomata, trust me I will. about shiyu: I just put nicole + jane and the def break does his thing, not sure HOW much resistance affect but, well, dissorders also help
GREAT VIDEO ! i have the same teams as you except i got qingyi instead of zhu yuan , i have about 10k poly do u recommend me to pull for caesar? i like her gameplay plus i feel like it would fit w my qingyi for a second team ...
@@AverageLuckGamer sounds good , i feel like she's worth taking a 50\50 if i didn't get her i can get the guarantee since there gonna be alot of events i can still guarantee her or another character. since burnice works most of the time w jane as u said jane is alrdy perfect even by herself only she does clear alot of content. so the right choice i feel is to build a second team w who ever ur gonna pull for like caesar or other new limited characters.
Not going to lie my polychromes are almost tapped out at this moment just like a lot of us lol... I don't think there's any more I can squeeze out of the game right now besides Hollow Zero and the harder content to get more polychromes for either Caesar or Burnice. Idk we'll just have to wait and see....
I was really in doubt between Caesar and Burnice, I was skipping Jane as well, but after considering my options and what agents I have, I decided to pull for Jane, skip Caesar and go all out for Burnice, gotta grab that disorder team, and also I want to get my Lucy to M6, so the second banner is a no brainer. And if Caesar gets a rerun in the future, then I might try to get her.
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I'm only skipping Caesar because I want the flamethrower lady
I feel that
Likewise.
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ur not terrible at the game, ur just an average skill gamer
I'll take that. Some people been pretty mean though lol.
@@AverageLuckGamer you'd be suprised how above average you are in decision making compared to the 90% of average player base
Ey ... the skill might be bad okay (who am I to say that btw) but your decisions are above IQ 90 which is over average! 😊 And you are a good Person that's what Matters. Also: You will be Better Overtime Like everyone usually does with practise
Man I've gotta say I massively respect not only that you're skipping on Caesar, but the whole approach. You are the slayer of FOMO for me!
That's the plan! Imma keep it going!
Nah just her pure buffs last for so long like 90 seconds is crazy
Love that you’re preaching responsibility as a content creator when so many other gacha YT’s are on the MUST PULL HYPE HYPE SWIPE train for every character.
That’s what makes your channel so enjoyable to me. Definitely my favorite ZZZ creator hands down.
Thank you so much! That's what I'm going for and I'm so glad it comes across that way.
Exactly. On HoyoLAB I shared my favorite ZZZ content creator. You are one of them @@AverageLuckGamer because you so far the only one I saw who said "it's okay ... you don't have to pull everyone". Hoyo must hate you lol but I Love you for that!
I never even thought to put a different class's W-Engine on Caesar just for the Impact. Weirdly enough, that makes builder her even easier, since the best A-rank option for purely impact is actually the Demara Battery Mark II. It has the highest base attack and impact of the A-ranks. You sacrifice 1% of conditional impact compared to Original Transmorpher, but gain 100% uptime, higher base attack, and no need to P5 it.
TDIL that Anby's Wengine has higher base attack than the other stun engines! I genuinely thought the stat lines of A-rank engines were uniform, so then I went and checked all the support engines too and the signature engines in the support ones ALSO have 625 atk rather than the 595 that the non sig's all have, you learn something new everyday
yep, all in-game buyable wengine (with the chips from weekly/shiyu) start with 40 bast atk, and scale to 595. while all a-rank gacha only acquirable start with 42, and scale to 624. (some sites list 625, perhaps due to rounding, but in-game states 624)
Same pattern occurs with s-ranks too. All standard start with 46, end at 684. Limited start @48 atk, end at 714
I'm personally waiting for Lighter leaks to come out to help me make my choice.
Once I know his kit, I'll pick up whichever of Caesar or Burnice will work best with him.
Caesar is obviously a more universal support but If Lighter ends up wanting to have 100% burn uptime on the enemy then I'll go for Burnice
watch him want both Caesar and Burnice lol
I love the aesthetics of the sons of calydon so much so that im never not skipping their banners now and in future reruns. Ride or die.
Me too lol. Though the leaks of them making Lighter a 5 star after he was supposedly originally gonna be a 4 star had me fall to my knees because they’re really gonna have me getting 3 banner characters in a row. Luckily I’ve saved since the start of the game. Caesar and Burnice are essentially guaranteed but I’m gonna need some RNGsus blessings to get him
Sharp content as always ALG!! Here is why Caesar fits in my account (a testamonial) :
First and formost Caesar is my type.
But more rationally as someone who is trying to pull as little as possible. Having an agent that can wear many hats (well) like Caesar means she can defend my account from FOMO by being able to slot into holes in my teams, and be effective until an agent I really love comes around to fill it. Rather than feeling like I need to pull in order for the in complete team to be effective.
She really is so versatile, no judgement here! Honestly if I'd have won my Jane 50/50 I'd have probably gone for her too.
It’s physically impossible for me to skip Caesar. AFTER I pull her, then it will be possible for me to calm down and be more selective for who I pull for in the future. I’m new to gachas and have been playing ZZZ for less than 2 weeks so I have a lot to learn, but at least if I have Caesar, I can get by. I have to imagine I’ll be skipping Burnice which sucks, but the more I learn about the game and gachas in general, the more I realize I’m not going to be able to pull everyone unless I’m a whale. I’m still grinding a bunch of things that have been in the game at launch, but as soon as all the launch rewards dry up, I imagine I’ll fully appreciate how hard polychromes will be to come by.
Yeah, it probably feels like a lot of new stuff right now but you'll get up to speed if you stick with it. Check out my Beginner guide if you haven't already!
Shiyu defense and hollow zero are really good sources of polychrome since they refresh and net you pretty good amount. I don't like spending on gachas but this the only gacha I REALLY like so I do buy the thing that gives you 90 polychrome a day for a month adding up to 2700. Definitely worth it if you don't mind buying, it's extremely cheap.
@@giganticimpact8941 oh yeah that was a day 1 purchase for me. I can justify spending a little money on a game that’s free to play. Anything less than $70 is practically the same as buying any other game. It’s a nice little boost. Growth plan too is worth it imo
BTW: I got Caesar on my first 10 pull! I was already pretty close to pity on my guarantee after failing to pull Jane after 150+ pulls lol. On the bright side my 50/50 loss was my first S11 and I love her
I really believe Caesar will be a "future" character. She is extremely good, and works on most teams, but we still don't know for sure in which teams she will be a *replacement*. I think this is an annoyance I have with the hype around her right now. She likely will not be the best pick for Jane Doe, both for her physical anomaly and disorder teams with Burnice, nor will she replace anyone in Zhu Yuan's team. It looks like as of right now, the main characters that will benefit from her most are Ellen (possibly), Soldier 11, Corin, and Billy.
She seems like a very good "generalist" and will likely be a fantastic QOL character than can take a slot in most teams if you are missing a given dedicated support/ stunner. However, I am not convinced she will be outright BETTER than the specialized alternatives for some of our meta teams.
I feel like this consideration for *who* you have on your account and which characters will actually benefit from her the most, is really important, and not enough people are having it about her pre release.
This is why I should pull Caesar. I don't have Lycoan so my current teams are Ellen/Soukaku
Zhu-Yuan/ Anby/ Nicole
Jane/Lucy
They get the job done and S ranked 13 out of the last 14 shiyu defense nods this month, with a bit of patience but 2 out of those 3 teams could use help.
If you don't have Lycaon and Qingyi, Caesar is the best pull in probably a couple patches to improve the Ice and Ether teams. If you do have them, she's a minor upgrade/sidegrade and depending on the fight perhaps not even that especially at M0/W0
@@Luftgitarrenprofi I don't have either of them so Caesar is probably all I'll need for a while. And the versatility opens the doors for more options. Now I know what to do moving forward
Zenless is the first game that as a light spender I've already been able to S rank all the content this early and with only 2 limited units (Ellen and Jane). Crazy feeling to have an account that feels good enough to not get FOMO over the next units. Already have Grace for my disorder team but might pull Burnice cause shes cute ;)
It does feel a bit ironic how in your Qingyi video you were talking about "horizontal investment" when justifying not pulling for Qingyi because you have Anby, yet you still ended up pulling for Jane Doe even though you have a level 50 Piper, her W Engine and Nekomata.
All rationale goes out the window when the waifu hits. 🤷♂️
If he pulled Qingyi then his second side team wouldn't have issues
I had to tie my balls and skip Jane to guarentee Caesar.
You ok bro?
Bro. Jane doe is very strong Go and Get her
I do not regret pulling Jane at all. Just Jane and Seth clear like 3 times faster than my other best team. Jane will eventually pay for her own polychrome with the free S-ranks in Shiryu Defense.
Praying she reruns soon 😅 I really like Jane but I *need* Caesar and Lighter. Will get his engine too if it makes his scarf become flames so I gotta save for now
Bro got blue balls 😢
I will pull Caesar since i have planned from the start of the game.
For game purposes i have ellen and like to play ellen more, caesar will be very helpful for me since i have no lycon
Same. That's what I'm thinking
i suspect with ever increasing conviction that hoyo is testing the effect of every enticement on the player base.
you had to get zhu yuan because she was the most f2p friendly one, just get her and everyone already has the rest of her team.
with jane doe they pushed the limits of degeneracy, like how hot can a character possibly get!? headphones recommended indeed.
and now caesar is the most op stun/buff/debuff/shield character appealing to min-maxers.
they're literally testing which method is most effective in baiting people to pull.
Genuinely, you could be right.
i'm guessing Qingyi's marketing scheme was Doomed Yuri / fanfiction bait?
This video and you content in general have genuinely been super encouraging to me, zzz is my first gatcha, and I feel very far behind, even though I may have pulled Jane in around 30 tapes, these videos remind me that I don't need to spend insane amounts of money to catch up to everyone else. Thanks for your content, keep doing what you do :)
Ever since I saw Caesar King’s dripmarketing way back before Jane Doe’s release, I knew I had to skip Jane and Qingyi for her. Then Burnice’s dripmarketing dropped and it cemeted in my mind that I needed to save. I fought the FOMO around Jane Doe (She is awesome though.
Going into Caesar’s banner, I have over 25k Polychromes, hopefully I can win the 50/50 to save chromes for Burnice.
My only limited SSR is Zhu Yuan, which I pulled on accident trying to get more copies of Nicole lol I'm glad I did though, simply because I lost the 50/50 on Ellen. I was very upset about that back then but since I made teams around Zhu and Lycaon, I've been able clear most of the end game content. FOMO is a bitch to deal with. I'm glad you discussed this.
You're welcome! Thanks for the support!
Same as me, i was pissed losing my first 50/50 on ellen's banner, and got zhu yuan guaranteed. Now got jane doe with her w-engine and teams are set for endgame content 😊
Zhu Yuan and Lycaon the only 5 stars I’m rocking atm too. I think it’s more than viable to only be using one premium banner dps character at this point, which is why I’ve skipped Jane Doe in favour of Caesar. Also I’d rather grab non-dps utility banner characters first so they can prop up some later dps who will power creep all the other dps
As a low spender my, i've managed to save enough to get caeser burnice both 100% lol. Time to unleash the power of 240+ tapes
Oh, big spender over the next month. Good saving though!
I've got about 120 with Caesar guaranteed and 10 pity in already, I really want her W engine too but if i pull for it I'd put myself at risk of losing the 50/50 on Burnice 😞
I started the game last sunday and got enough for Jane 50/50. I pulled her in the first 10 lmao imagine how happy I was. Still debating if I should get Caesar though
@@k_aesar Just forget the engine and build the roaster, 75-90 pulls are not worth for a side grade anyway
@@sugar-lx1jz Shiny hair tho 🥺👉👈
Good stuff man I'll go for Ceasar fight the 50/50 if I lose it's okay. I skipped zhu yuan so I can lose a 50/50 and it's okay gotta get someone to replace main dps in second team
Totally fair!
I felt the same exact way that you feel about Caesar, about Jane. So I decided to just do a few pulls and hope I get lucky. Got her AND M1 Seth in 20 pulls and then got Seth’s weapon on my first 10 pull. So I got everything I wanted in 30 pulls total lol. So there’s no harm in doing a few 10 pulls and if you don’t get anything, then cool you have pity for the next banner, and if you do, well then you barely wasted any polychromes lol. You have said yourself there’s no harm in building pity so long as you actually want the S rank on banner lol.
This is true. We'll see.
@@AverageLuckGamerI feel that's good advice for sure ❤
Your take on caesers wengine actually opened my eyes up tbh. Great video and thx for the advice, time to grind out some stun engine plates👌👌
Let's go!
She is the only agent that has no viable alternative to her signature wengine, so that makes her hard pass for me.
You forgot to say that she's also a pseudo stunner, she even beat Qingyi in some instances. Her debuff is no joke as well. 😂
That's kinda what I was talking about with her replacing Anby. You're right though, definitely should have made my thoughts clearer.
Hoping AverageLuck becomes the face of reason amongst the gacha community. More people ought to watch your videos and I hope this channel soon gets even more attention.
Keep it up! 👍👍
I greatful to have goten super lucky and got her within the 3rd to 4th time trying
I think the most important thing that this is a lesson for is: a unit like Jane might be amazing, but if you don't like them, don't pull them. There's other paths. People probably don't consider a Soldier 11 fire team to be potent, but I clear just fine with it. Or, Billy Nicole and Qingyi, which I clear fine with. People don't want to use "those weak four stars" and so Anton Seth Anby teams won't even be considered, nor anything else, thus, people artifically feel that there's "not many options so I need to pull". No. No you don't. You don't need to full clear S.D. or anything else. It gives you maybe one or two more pulls on average if you do like half of it already. It's okay to wait. If you wanted Jane and got her, for those watching, then be happy in that :). Don't chase after anything. I saved for Caesar and did like two or three multis on this banner for fishing for Seth and got him, then bounced. That's literally ALL the pulls that I've done not counting the free standard pulls that we got from the game registration rewards and whatnot launch stuff....I joined like two weeks into the Ellen Banner and didn't know if I liked her so I skipped. It's fine. Just wait. You don't know what is around the corner. Lighter or Big Daddy might get drip leaked, or another character, or maybe a Section 6 character...or hell, it might be a Eula situation where she comes out of nowhere like in Genshin. Or Kazuha. You never know these things so just WAIT a week into a banner to truly see if you want the character.
I want to use any unit to clear, but reality is that they are much harder to build good. Plus resources are always limited, so building all characters is not an option, at least if you are trying to get good disks
Caesar is only for casuals who cant dodge properly so Im not gonna pull for he- Ah who am I kidding, I eat hits all day everyday Im pulling for mah queen
lmao, me too.
Didnt get rat lady because I've wanted Caesar since I saw her in beginning trailer with all the different factions. Literally all the amazing stuff that come with her is just an added bonus. Plus I feel like Piper is a fine enough physical anomaly character.
same, might even be the first W-engine i pull. depending how fast i get caesar. I still got the battlepass def w-engine to fall back on. Im going to make a (HOPEFULLY) pretty good S11/Lucy/Caesar team that just buffs the hell out of S11
Whenever I have the feeling of FOMO because other CC's are hyping meta like no tomorrow I'm glad you are there and calm me ❤
I know Caesar would be great but as F2P, jane is such an amazing lead physical character that i feel like getting that extra really powerful fire from burnice would stack fire and disorder like crazy, especially since i havent gotten lucky enough to pull soldier 11 yet, and a lot of the recent missions are based one fire/physical weakness. Jane already stacks physical so much as my lead that Caesar just seems redundant for me.
I didn't even realize it was a 50/50 shot until jane since i got lucky with the zhu yuan pull. I lost the jane doe pull but luckily with a few more rolls i ended up getting her before the guarantee. After that experience, I'm gonna make sure i can get the next character and i just cant do that with Caesar; there just isn't enough time as a F2P.
I'm trying my best to not get a rat because I already have a cat... And their movesets are similar and they have the same element. Caesar will help the cat... and I'll focus on getting 5* Ice and Electric Elements in the future.
literally in the SAME position as you. i’ll make do for physical teams with neko and ESP with caesar, then just save for whatever character they release next. so far every character has been very strong so i’m looking forward to see what they cook up
Thanks for the video! Your Jane Doe analysis videos convinced me to pull for her and the Wengine. If Bernice synergizes well with Jane Doe I might consider trying to win 50/50 but otherwise I’m saving for Miyabi or Zhu Yuan re-run because you’re right I’m completely broke now haha😅
It happens lol. Honestly though considering how good Jane is though... Does she need Burnice? Don't worry I'll make a video when we get closer.
@@AverageLuckGamer So true! Even now with Jane Doe using Rainforest Gourmet and unmaxed skills and level(no Dennies to upgrade🫠) she just wipes stages that took me much longer to clear before! Assault is so satisfying to proc and see the big numbers, combat stages are much easier to clear now so I’m glad I pulled for her. Looking forward to the upcoming videos!
Your argument for not trying to pull doesn't really make sense. Assuming you want the unit, it doesn't matter if you only have enough for the 50/50 attempt, because if you fail, that progress still carries over to the next banner you'd want a character on anyways, you'll have guaranteed next time. So really you're just delaying when you attempt your 50/50, and denying yourself even the chance to pull Caesar in this case.
And especially if a banner has boosted A-Ranks you want, it's extra useful to be doing pulls into it to try and get cinema unlocks.
Thanks about the W-Engine tip! I even lucked out and have a few of that specific fossil w-engine already.
I lost my Qingyi 50/50 so I decided to stop, and I'm planning to use my guarantee on Ceaser for her still solid stunning capabilities and party wide buffs.
can't risk pulling caesar with yanagi / miyabi on the horizon. just playing the game for fun. and jane is very fun. don't care about sweating in super difficult modes that don't give rewarding enough rewards.
So true, I have covered that before but I should have mentioned again that the rewards are pretty small.
I feel that Caesar will age very well since:
- you can put her in any team
- She is practically a hybrid of Stun+Support which leaves you with a free slot for a second support to hyperbuff your Main DPS
- She will probably be indispensable for characters who want to spend a lot of time on the field without being interrupted or who have long combos.
- She is currently one of the only characters with Grouping besides Nicole which in itself is a valuable niche when you are dealing with waves of enemies
- I feel that with the addition of Seth and now Ceasar the game will enter a Defender META where shields will be very valuable to have.
However I can understand the logic of those who prefer to skip her and wait for more specialized supports.
Yeah totally true, she's gonna be great.
Qinyi has a sort of "grouping" with her flurry of electric attacks.
It's honestly bonkers how flexible she is. Literally any core of DPS+Support of the same element will work perfectly with her, as long as either of them has the right kind of assist.
@@chillax319yep I feel like Qingyi and soon Caesar gonna be the only units released so far that survive long term because of their utility
The problem is that to 'power creep' Caesar they just need to release DPSs with their own anti interrupt mechanics
Nice aproach to your decisions, I watched another CC talking about teams compositions for Jane and what impressed me was that for Jane disorder team Ceaser is not required and in my account I already have good stunners and I will skip her for Burnice to make a more consistent team for Jane
Definitely not required!
Average luck gamer here, same as you! I am so much used to listen your videos that I was thinking if I am on the right video after seeing your face.
I'm a newer player also (not new to gacha games) and the Gacha gods must have been with me because I have four S ranks already and I've only been playing for about a month and a half.... I came in on the the very last 4 days of the banner before Janes (I can't remember who it was) I have Jane, I have Lycan, I have Rina, and I have Grace all in this month!!! And I know that won't ever happen again for me (at least if Hoyoverse has a say in it lol) but I'm blessed to be starting this game on the right track so far.... FYI I did have to grind like crazy to get enough pulls to get lucky enough. I did all the events and did a lot of side quests, so yeah there's that lol
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lol I mean it is anti... But I'm pretty pro Caesar! If I had guarantee poly I would be pulling...
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I will say that I do respect everyone's decision on who to pull for including yours my man. As much as I do wanted to get both Caesar and Brunice, I have to win both 50/50s but truth be told that I won't be able to get Burnice assuming that if I may lose the 50/50 for Caesar and it's a gacha game at the end of the day. I'm still going all in for Caesar if I have to (at least one copy obviously) because she looks like Eula from Genshin lol
That's fair! Glad you've planned for the worst case scenario!
I’m on the fence on Caesar. I feel like her generalist nature either is her biggest bonus or weakness. Like Shoukaku is still a better support for ice; Nicole for ether, etc you’re going to have elemental buffers, then a dps, and then that third slot. Is it a stunner? Is it a double buffer? Who knows. For someone like Jane doe double buffer makes sense since Jane wants field time. Meanwhile Zhu Yuan only wants to pop out and say hi after the stunners done all the work.
I suppose too that’s something to consider. Can she be stun enough and buff enough to justify taking her over a stunner or a buffer? I don’t know.
I do know I want her her. But I want section 6 agents and the up coming furry agents more, and I don’t know if she’s worth the gamble
I feel all the limited DPS team is really good right now that Caesar won't make a huge different in any of them. The only one I can think of is Shoukaku since her buff is the same and that shield can help Ellen do her N3 without interruption. So I think she can be skipped if you want future characters.
@@Amos-xn8vv honestly I’m wondering if the better investment isn’t Caesar’s engine?
Like on Seth that’s 18% impact, plus 15% damage boost and Seth can give people his shield. You could then build him to be more stun oriented, 18% wengine, 18% 6th slot, and then 6% shock star 2 piece,
Suddenly Seth can boost the party’s damage by 30%, drop shields and AP buff on people. And be a pretty legitimate stun support with +42% impact and 20% anomaly shred. Yeah Seth will take an attack but for shield but the proto punk set will help make up for that and you’ll be doing more damage and stunning quicker as a result
@@jolunrohthocoudis526 I'm not a fan of rolling W-engine, but Caesar's one is definitely not worth it. You can use any stun W-engine with an impact substat and it's good enough. I'd wait for a versatile W-engine for DPS instead.
@@Amos-xn8vv no I mean independent of Caesar. Getting that damage mod looks like it would be great for all shielders
@@jolunrohthocoudis526 I understand it's great for all shielders, but for the same amount of pull, Caesar is more efficient. Unless you're willing to wait for another better shielders or really want to upgrade Seth, Ben. In which case, go for it, good luck mate.
So far, I've been trying to pull DPS units, but failing 2/3 50/50's, and then getting the following support unit.
The only exception to this, was Ellen, and my pulls got me Lycaon at the 50 perm mark, and then MC6 Soukaku from pulling Ellen.
After that, I got S11 and Brimstone (which went on Ellen) instead of Zhu Yuan, and then Grace instead of Jane, letting me pull Qingyi and now Caesar later.
I was admittedly ticked off at first, but in retrospect, I think the game is steering me to more complete, powerful teams with more future-proofed supports.
Solid advice and whatnot. I personally kind of feel at this point f2p should only be rocking 1 of the premium banner dps characters (outside of good luck). Caesar seems like she adds much more value long term than a second dps does at this point to me. And Burnice being a premium anomaly unit seems like she will too, I dunno. Obviously wife over meta but they’re all wife material lol. And I’ve been partial to the Sons of Calydon ever since we got a glimpse of them in the launch trailer so I’ve essentially chosen both Caesar and Burnice over Jane Doe and zero regrets. Jane Doe is awesome mind you but a physical dps seems like the fastest to be powercrept. I mean, Caesar with a dps build already seems like it’s gonna be on her level at this point. Also…they kind of blew their load with the Jane Doe marketing to a degree that it makes me feel like we’re gonna get way sexier characters down the line and Jane Doe gonna be the one we look back on and think about how modest the characters used to be lol
Also. Qingyi isn’t really my vibe in terms of play style (her stun is wayyyy too mashy) so I skipped her but I have way more respect for anyone who chose Qingyi over any of the 3 dps premium banner characters at this point because I feel like they’re rocking the big brain with it for real
tbf, everyone is terrible compared to that one person that mains Billy and goes hitless lol
That said, the waifus of calydon are a must pull for me cause the pull value of them is happiness from design alone 😄
Cool non-bait vid. I skipped Ellen, Zhu yuan and Qingyi. Although I liked their playstyle especially Ellen's but I had to make a choice. Pulled for Jane and going for Caesar only because of waifu reasons.
Edit: Also I agree with your Caesar WEngine suggestion. Original transmorpher gives impact BUT that combat impact while it is higher than 4* stun engines it does not affect her shield. So as f2p with average luck I will go with your idea and use Anby's engine for her since that one affects her shield.
Noice! Glad I could help on the Wengine.
Did one pull on the Jane banner, surprisingly got a S rank at zero pity but lost.
Saving that guarantee for Caesar and Burnice then use the remaining on Miyabi hopefully coming much later.
I think f2p and low spenders should skip a dps character like jane for a stun/support character like ceaser as the later is better in terms of versatility and longevity.
Jane can be powercrept anytime by another anomaly dps or a phys attacker but even if there is a stun char who has better stun and dmg multi than ceaser, she can still be used as a support which makes her very future proof.
That being said, I totally get your pov tho. You already have 2 good teams and don't necessarily need an upgrade. So skipping ceaser for burnice might be the best choice here
yeah bro just dont have fun now so you can potentially maybe have fun in 2 years
I constantly tell people about how any Impact W-Engine is probably better on Caesar than any Defender Engine option, and they always want to argue back that Transmorpher is better... At least there is one sane person that had the same idea as me.
For Virgil / Miyabi Simp. After I got Jane I got around 27k polychrome left. I probably skip everyone like I skip Ellen, Zhu Yuan, and Qing Yi. (Shiyu Defense struggle continues)
I see people talking about owning piper, I really am that 1%, huh. This is why i've optimised my corrin with the 150 crit damage (as of now) for Caesar. The only thing that will have me double take on pulls is harumassa( i probably butchered his name) but i like dual swords into a bow.
Besides that my "kink" is a radiant smile, and ceasar had that when we were doing the NEPS investigation event. So i said " I've seen enough, I'm satisfied".
Im going for Ceasar! I've wanted her since the original trailer like 2 months ago. Probably after this, Im going for Miyabi or Asama. The one I want to get but probably wont be able to get is Lighter. He looks cool.
But didn't you say f2p/low spenders should skip Caesar like 3-4 videos ago? I planned on going for her anyway just seeing how much a high QoL and long term pick up she would be, but just curious for what changed
It's a common click baity tactic for ccs, plus I think he's coping he couldn't guaranteee Caesar, like most koomerbaited jane havers 😆
@@blurryeyes1918Or hear me out, people find Caesar not that interesting despite her being good? Caesar's character design is by the coolest in the game for me and I liked the look of her over any other agent back when she first got leaked, however, when her gameplay came out and this update dropped and I played her... It made me happy I pulled on Jane. (And will save for Burnice instead) I didn't care for Burnice's look but after using her in her trials she's silly fun. As the OP, I too am a f2p/low spender and "Meta" in a game like this isn't really THAT important considering every agent in this game can clear every single piece of content the game has to offer atm. I'm here for what feels fun to play over everything. Jane is fun, along with Burnice. Sadly Caesar looked too boring despite how cool she looks for me.
@@crimsonraiza3633 She's amazing in combo with Jane tho. Think of Caesar as more utility for your favorite dps. I pulled Jane as well for her play style, and now with Caesar can hit big 1m burst DPS in HollowZero.The anti-interrupt makes Jane even more fun to play as well.
Highly recommend her for your future units as hers buffs are almost universal as far as what teams she is amazing on and most likely won't be power crept for quite a long time👌🏽
@@crimsonraiza3633Oh and she doesn't have to be on field long either it's easy to just get your buff/debuff on enemy, and assault off easy then switch to Jane(or Seth for the stun then to Jane and have all buffs if your using that team), then go ham with Jane and delete everything lol
Original transmorpher is Final Impact so it multiplies with your disk 6, so it should beat out stun engines. It’s cheaper to R5 a craftable and leave it at lvl 1 than to lvl 60 a stun engine
I'm considering Caesar because I only have Jane as limited character, hopefully Caesar will make my Corin/Anton strong or comfortable to play on shiyu defense
I can't judge how well you play but this is definitely better than what I can do and that's good enough for me. In general being mediocre in gacha is probably better for your concept anyway so don't worry about your performance!
I'm quite lucky because I only started playing about 3 weeks ago, just before Jane's banner went live and I managed to get her in 52 pulls and I've just been saving. Skipping every weapon cause it's not needed and have had tons of content to catch up on and do and right now I'm up to 18k Polychromes and still got more things to get through. Hoping to get both Caesar and Burnice (but I will prioritize Caesar if I need to cause damn she's just too freaking hot). And hopefully in 1.3 I can then recover a bit and save some Polychrome again cause I'm not pulling Lighter at all. Don't need no stinking dudes in my game. Either way I think I'm in a good position. (Technically I'm kinda F2P, but I did get the monthly pass cause I mean it's only $5.
"You know who's a must-pull because you know who you want to pull for." Very real. I've been F2P thus far with my account and Caesar is a must-pull for me to the point where I'm willing to spend in order to make sure I get her and her W-Engine. I've gotten very lucky with my limited agents thus far, having all but Ellen, but this character is the one I need on my account because it's the type of gameplay I liked the most. I was a Beidou main in Genshin from launch until I stopped playing in 2.3, it matters a lot to me that I get Caesar.
Thank god I did not roll for Jane, I have enough to guarantee Ceasar.
Noice, happy for you!
Good luck bro, im telling you, you getting her in 1st pull
Yep. I feel like Jane is the biggest trap in the game so far and much respect to anyone who resisted her rat charms
@@BladetastersDelight Jane is anything but a trap, she is the most future proof dps in the game. The amount of anomaly teams she is going to fit on is gonna be insane.
@@Evan-ru6ro okay I forgot she was anomaly when I said that lol my bad my bad
I am always for just getting the characters you like the most, if you don't like them, don't get them. I wanted Jane because she is sexy af and her combo's are cool... it doesn't have to be deeper than that
I personally am gonna roll for every limited character I see but I totally understand wanting to skip since statistically your likely gonna hit the pity cap before you get a S agent but who knows, you could get 10 S Agents back to back, anything is possible and that's the fun of gacha games to begin with
Was already planning on skipping Caesar because I want Burnice (which playing the MSQ kinda confirmed for me I think I'm gonna love pairing her with Jane and getting hella Disorder). Decided to throw just a YOLO 10 pull at the Caesar banner. Immediate 50/50 loss. Technically a great outcome as per my plan, because it means I'll be confident strolling into the Burnice banner, I guess.
I'm a low-spender (City Fund + Subscription) on ZZZ and I was heavily torn on either getting Jane or Caesar because I clearly wasn't going to have enough for both + Burnice (my 1st of two MUST HAVE picks leading into the winter, the other being MIyabi), I was saving up to 15K Poly + 18 Encrypt Tapes ever since getting Qingyi and made out a two-headed plan based on what I was gonna do. With Jane on the way out I ultimately decided yesterday to pull based on banner strength: Caesar's banner ultimately doesn't do anything for me outside of Caesar herself (I don't use Anton and I already have him at max Cinema, and while I do have Piper decently built up I haven't been using her much lately, plus I'd rather had chanced getting Jane for my main Physical Anomaly Agent over getting more Piper copies). All that plus I still enjoy using Anby and wanted to max her Cinema out plus Seth is a very cool defensive unit to change getting (and the only one I could see myself actually building up, just don't like using Ben personally). Lo and behold I not only maxed out Anby's Cinemas but also pulled Jane (on the 50/50 no less) early, within my 1st 50 pulls, and wound up getting Seth in my very next 10-spot.
So, I got super lucky going against the grain and decided to pull more on Jane's banner since I highly doubted that I'd get another early S like that so soon, which I also normally don't do, but again it seems I really lucked out. Now I go into Caesar's banner with only about 5K Poly, but with soft pity right around the corner within 15 pulls for another 50/50. I only intend to pull once or twice in order to cash in on that 50/50 on Caesar since I've literally won my last 3 50/50s back to back (Zhu Yuan, Quigyi and now Jane), and then no matter what happens, not pull again until Burnice's GOATed banner is active since I'm really hoping to get her (plus get Lucy and Nicole copies). Not expecting my luck to stay as it is, but hopefully things work out on my favor since I'm planning on hard-skipping all of 1.3 to save for MIyabi.
You're channel is my go to for ZZZ content, and I really hope you keep up these tips, since your insight kind of serves as my "caution" rules to prevent me from going too overboard.
The complexion of things have shifted from last night's announcement of Yanagi. I'm not too sure that there's ever going to be a situation where I'm looking to run triple Anomaly cause of the utility I'd sacrifice to do it, so it's probably best to grab caesar for sure and pick between Burnice and Yanagi once more details leak.
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I have just four polys to my name and under a week left. Damn, am I gonna miss Caesar while she's gone.
With that in mind though, I am hopeful I can somehow make the 20k requirement for when Lighter graces us with his presence.
Thanks for the guides, man. They remind me to stay my hand and not be a whale.
Just as broke with pulls 55 pulls and waiting for Burnice banner. Currently trying to get trough Withering Garden max difficulty with one character :D its pretty good experience strongly suggest.
Man so I missed out on zhou yun , lost the 5050 on the ice lady, got quinyi in 10 pulls, and in only 30 pulls into Jane doe and no dice so far. I’m thinking I’ll pull on Jane does banner and if I lose I’m happy and if I win I’m happy, and if I lose on Caesar’s banner then I can’t complain!
2:42 Replace Anby? I could never... my sweet burger enjoyer will stay forever.
Was originally gonna skip but Caesars kit looks insane
I have been grinding this game out daily since the minute it launched, and somehow only just now in this video did I realize you could equip characters with wengines from other specialties
I lost 50/50 10 pulls after getting Jane so I could get Caesar, however as much as I would like Caesar I want Burnice more, although I am in a similar situation where my Zhu Yuan needs more of an upgrade than my Jane so maybe Ill get her based on that but for now I am skipping.
I skipped Jane and Qingyi so I'd like to roll for Caesar and Burnice. But knowing my luck I wont get both, so I'll try to get Caesar but if I lose 50\50 I'll save for Burnice
First ALG videos enjoyer here😊
Appreciated!
I decided not to pull for Jane; Piper will do the job for now, so I'm going for Caesar. The real debate is whether or not to pull her engine-18% damage boost for the whole party is pretty huge!
I haven't looked at Caesar enough to fully decide if I want to get her or not. Like you, my only premiums are Jane and Zhu Yuan, and they're both fine with Seth/Grace or Rina and Anby/Nicole respectively. But I'm an SnS main in Monster Hunter, and hearing she scales off Impact has me curious because before Jane I spent the longest time being sad that Anby was my only stun agent.
The trouble with how the characters are releasing (for us, not the company), is that by sticking all the team members near each other, it incentivizes us to want to pull on consecutive banners, which is something I probably can't do consistently eveh as a $5 monthly spender. I want Caesar, and I feel I really want Burnice since I have all the other anomaly user, but I don't know which one helps my teams more, or if they'd help each other much.
Lastly, as hype as it is to finally have a premium Dude, I was hoping Lighter would be an A rank on this patch. Having a new A rank character always makes banners more exciting for me, and after having one just about every patch in HSR, seeing them try up there and be infrequent here hurts
Well i talked about it yesterday in your discord. I lost my 50/50 to s11 again. I am legit not sure about the play here.
Currently have s11 m1, koleda m1, ben m6w5 and lucy m4w1.
After losing Jane’s banner a few very helpful community members were saying to just go for Burnice rather than committing to Jane. Since i already have zhu yuan m1w1 and qingyi m0w1 with nicole m6w5.
What are your thoughts ALG?
Your Zhu Yuan team is good and you S11 team is good. Honestly, I'd just pull whoever you want at this point. Burnice would potentially be good for your second team but probably not a necessity. Might just be worth seeing what comes up after Burnice, the fact that you got Mindscapes for your S11 and Koleda probably mean that your second team is good without her if you wanted to skip.
@@AverageLuckGamer the good news at least with waiting for after Burnice is that I will have some insight as to who comes afterwards. The only reason Burnice caught my attention was the new set that compliments fire and electric. Since soldier 11 wants as much field time as possible it could be a great way to keep ignition active on the target and then run Koleda or lucy for stun and support. I do get the vibes thag Cesar and her compliment each other but I don’t think i can muster enough pulls for both of them before time is up. Appreciate you and your content ALG!
So close to Caesar now, its been so long since I pulled on anything! Zhu was my last pull, although I regret not pulling on Qing Yi's banner though.
Idk man, Caesar looks like a strong pick, but I really like Burnice, so I wish she was in the first half, so I can get her and then go for Caesar if I have enough pulls left and after the announcement of the next batch of characters 🌝
Face cam goes hard you look awesome and it adds to the video
Thanks! It's harder to use it on the heavier edit videos but hopefully I'll stream more soon, so you'll see more of me!
I am a Miyabi Saver, no limited Banner pulled on so far, but I am running out on Fading Signal to get monthly 10 Pulls from Shop and so far Miyabi is not in sight. So I may pull the Trigger on Caesar, get her and her Engine and continue saving until Miyabi. I only was barely able to Beat Shiyu with mere seconds left on the Clock so I hope caesar will elevate this to to have much more breathing room.
I hope my funds will not fall apart...
I’m pulling Caesar for my Ellen, and future multiplayer modes since I have a guarantee. Plus I got Jane and her engine as a f2p. It’s really about investing correctly at the end of the day. I probably will be hoarding polys for the second half of 1.2 to 1.4 but that’s fine.
So far I'm 50/50 on banner pulls, Zhu is sadly missed every day, but I can say for sure it's basically set at this point that you can only really get every other character if you're not paying, minus some great luck. This is my first Hoyo game but I've been all in, and I really do want Caesar so in a sense I'm actually glad I didn't get Jane. I can only hope every character from now on gets as many detailed animations as she got gifted though.
I play Honkai Star Rail, Wuthering Waves, and Reverse: 1999 and recently just started ZZZ. I played it on release, but put it aside until about 5 days ago. I lost my 50:50 to C1 Lycaon on Jane's Banner.
I need a 2nd DPS (I have soldier 11 on team 1 and Corin as the 2nd DPS), but like in other gacha games support/defense characters are king. I'm think of pairing Caesar with Corin or taking Ben off the Soldier 11 team. Corin's team is solid with Sokaku - Corin - Lycaon. Thoughts? I am only IK33.
As a f2p player, I picked up Caesar and her weapon, which is probably not advisable. My main team was C1 Lycaon with Ellen. I just have Caesar running with Lucy and Piper and it's an unstoppable force. I'm not sure if I can get all the Shiyu S ranks with my teams but by god it was the best decision I could have made to get both. I still have enough for a 50/50 so I'm happy. I also took the opportunity to buy Lycaon his S rank weapon because I could and he's special to me because he was my first 2 S rank pulls.
Yeah, I have two strong teams that can clear the shiyu defense easy (Qingyi/Zhu yuan/Nicole and Ellen/Lycaon/Soukaku), I got really lucky and won all 50/50 so far as a low spender, I pulled and got Jane because... cmon she is really cool, now I gonna skip Ceaser because I don't have enough resources for her and because I really want Burnice to add to my future Jane/Seth/Burnice team.
I started during Qingyi banner, but wasted a lot of pulls on standard in the first week. Ended up at 80/90 for qingyi, then skipped for Jane even though I could have gotten Qingyi. Needed the Limited DPS more, and wasn't actually swayed by the dump truck. Going for Caesar purely for gameplay ngl. Her utility is my favorite kind of thing in a character, but that sword and shield, parry playstyle is calling my name. Was originally going to pull on Burnice banner for Lucy and Nicole copies, and then wait for 1.3 marketing, but idc anymore. I gotta have Caesar. She just looks so fun and strong.
just some corrections for things you've said, transformer's passive (as far as ppl are saying) doesn't actually change her shield value, since she scales on pre combat impact, also the weapon passive triggers on defensive assists, so you kinda have 100% uptime on it, cuz you always want to switch to caesar with a defensive assist
I got extremely lucky as f2p and got lycaon, ellen and zhu yuan. Currently planning to save up for Miyabi since she is the coolest in my eyes for now. I should pull for an anomaly/support but I really don't need it now. Maybe Lighter is going to change my mind
Just popped in to be one of the commenters to tell you you're awful at the game /s
Seriously speaking I'm glad you make videos for the non-min/max crowd and don't make overly hyper videos froth with clickbait titles like "CAESAR BEST UNIT? MUST PULL!"
keep doing what you're doing please!
as someone who started the game just 4 days ago and haven't even builded up enough polychromes for a 50/50, skipping this banner seems the right thing to do, specially if the section 6 operator are coming next, i really want Miyabi on my account so i will be saving for her and her module
I feel lucky to pick up the just around this time (at the start of the Jane banner)
Just in time to learn about Caesar and Burnice.
No secondary team just a Cunning Hares team and Pipper and Lucy half way leveled but alone......then here comes the perfect missing piece.
My pull logic is the same as yours: I'm skipping until I can lose a 50/50 and still go all the way to hard pity. However, I am skipping Jane because: 1) the former, and 2) I will build Piper as a replacement. I was off guarantee, so I did drop 30 pulls for Seth and got M3+W1. (I guess that counts as "building pity"?)
My Physical team is kinda weak right now. It needs a front liner to help Piper and Corin. Caesar or Lycaon would work fine, so I'm pulling for Caesar in her banner. The worst thing that could happen is actually that I WIN Jane, because that still leaves a weakness in my Physical team.
Sadly I'm gonna need to skip Burnice, but 1) that's how low spender (BP+IK) works, 2) my Fire team is okay (Ben/Lucy/S11), and 3) I don't have the mats to level new characters if I get them at that rate. Seth is already draining my mats, and I'm gonna be hard-pressed to level Caesar.
For the far future, I'm not actually interested in Miyabi, but I want to see Trigger, since she decimated the enemies in the TV Mode. I am considering skipping Section 6, and investing in Obol Squad.
I grinded almost all poly in the game for the rat after getting a nekomata, trust me I will.
about shiyu: I just put nicole + jane and the def break does his thing, not sure HOW much resistance affect but, well, dissorders also help
GREAT VIDEO ! i have the same teams as you except i got qingyi instead of zhu yuan , i have about 10k poly do u recommend me to pull for caesar? i like her gameplay plus i feel like it would fit w my qingyi for a second team ...
Probably... She's likely worth taking the 50/50 for and then seeing where you are.
@@AverageLuckGamer sounds good , i feel like she's worth taking a 50\50 if i didn't get her i can get the guarantee since there gonna be alot of events i can still guarantee her or another character. since burnice works most of the time w jane as u said jane is alrdy perfect even by herself only she does clear alot of content. so the right choice i feel is to build a second team w who ever ur gonna pull for like caesar or other new limited characters.
Not going to lie my polychromes are almost tapped out at this moment just like a lot of us lol... I don't think there's any more I can squeeze out of the game right now besides Hollow Zero and the harder content to get more polychromes for either Caesar or Burnice. Idk we'll just have to wait and see....
missing the parry button goes so crazy ☕
0:00 Dang I didn’t know I started taking a test at Shujin Academy
Hope you got that knowledge stat up!
Ditched ellen
grabbed zhuyuan and her robot gf
Now my focus is 2nd team which is miyabi, might pull caeser as a zhongli shield bot
she is more than just shield, it is closer to Bennett+Zhongli
I had to skip Jane Doe for Caesar, hopefully she'll be my first limited S rank!
I was really in doubt between Caesar and Burnice, I was skipping Jane as well, but after considering my options and what agents I have, I decided to pull for Jane, skip Caesar and go all out for Burnice, gotta grab that disorder team, and also I want to get my Lucy to M6, so the second banner is a no brainer.
And if Caesar gets a rerun in the future, then I might try to get her.