the working class man and women from yesterday year is getting smaller, they have gone lower middle class now, holidays abroad, second car, house extensions, second homes even etc....yes this country has problems but overall people are better off....I come from a working class family (Dad was a truck driver, Mum a cleaner) Yet I bought my house, run a van and car, we holiday twice a year, and had COVID not stepped in we are looking to buy a holiday let in Florida....the working class image is from a different age. If Labour want to be elected again then center left is the only option just ask Blair 🤷
@@DUCATEA absolutely spot on. The working class hasn't been the majority for decades. It is the lower middle class that decides the government, and the Tories are much better at listening to what they (we) want.
It was the biggest and most ambitious manifesto for working people that I have ever seen in my lifetime. The "Labour have abandoned the working class" schtick was a con, it always will be a con. And if you fell for it, and voted for Boris and his smash grab job on public money because he said "Get Brexit done" well I guess you got conned too.
@@DUCATEA Blair wasn't really Centre Left , he was a pure Centrist masquerading as Centre Left. Regardless of his political views , purely as a person he is piece of excrement.
The Labour party is the party of the smug, upper-middle class university educated "socialist" who has nothing but sneering disdain for the historic labour voter.
What the labour party don't understand (or maybe they do but don't care) is that the working class they used to represent are and always have been socially conservative. And the thing the Middle-class, student socialist type labour party we have hate the most is social conservatism
sonofeast11 by nature English people are social conservative even the staunch labour voter in those mining communities are Christian conservatives... we’ll take our Labour Party where it belongs we are not gonna give up now
They put all their focus and energy on securing the young vote with their outrageous policies and buzz word crammed speeches knowing they are naive enough to believe it. Totally forgot about everyone else though and paid for it. You can now truly see the delusion that runs through the party with how they are unable to come to terms with the genuine reasons and failures that have lead to what’s labours worst result in almost 85 years.
I got permanently banned from twitter, you’ve got to sing the same songs to be a twitter member otherwise your comments are removed and eventually you get banned.
1:26 this is why Labour lost, because rather than being the party of Labour Class, it became the party of the Metropolitan College Socialist that never had a proper day of Labour in their lifes
I don't disagree. What I don't understand is why a disaffected Labour voter would actively vote Conservative rather than abstaining/spoiling their ballot or voting for the Greens or a local independent?
@@pvm6732 I don't think I follow. Correct me if I'm wrong but these people haven't just decided they support The Conservative Manifesto (or have they, is that what I'm missing?). My understanding is that they are disaffected with Labour and not suddenly pro Tory. So why not vote for a party that is closer to their beliefs or spoil their ballet? I have heard people on the radio saying they voted Conservative but were gutted when they heard the result?
@@filusmaximus They in many cases did. The Brexit Party most certainly assisted the Tories in breaking the Red Wall but there was also a considerable shift for the Tories. For these traditional left and working-class voters in Labour strongholds feelings of Euroskepticism are very strong. Combine Corbyn's indecisiveness on a stance on Brexit with the Tory manifesto being a departure from the Thatcherite feelings that have dominated the party since the '80s and a return to a more Harold Macmillian-esque interventionism and economic populism and it was the perfect storm for this historic result. Much like the American Rust Belt these areas had been abandoned by the governments of both major parties and the party that dominated these regions (Labour in the Midlands, Northeast and Northwest, Democrats in the Rust Belt) had really only paid lip service to these communities as they continued to decline. This decline predates the last decade of Tory administration as another commenter was unable to understand why these voters would vote Tory knowing that. It goes back to Thatcher and Blair. In the end, they (in my opinion correctly) associated their decline with neoliberal policies of both parties which are also associated with membership in the EU. One too many betrayals and indecisive policy points on Brexit did this to Labour. If Jeremy Corbyn had stuck with the left Euroskepticism he had so many years ago and still probably has at heart, this result would have been different.
@Hans Hummer It seems like a lesson not learned as well from the excuses made and Corbyn not resigning straight away. Likely a Corbynista will take over from him and eventually Labour will not be main opposition.
Sorry John Labour has for decades now been totally divorced from the values and instincts of most provincial working-class British people, the type of people who staffed British industry and filled the ranks of the British army. Labour dislike our history and traditions and want to change us as a recognisable people. They just go on about the institutions, like the NHS, that have been made possible by a group of people bonded together by shared and self-confident history and values; while doing everything possible to destroy those bonds.
I can't believe Labour thought that saying they would set up a committee to investigate British history and identify if we need to pay compensation to any countries for anything that happened during the British empire would do anything other than alienate proud British working class people.
Myus, could you please explain what so-called "history", "traditions" and "bonds" English people share? I genuinely am an adult who has no idea about the history and traditions of my own nation and am definitely not just asking this question in bad faith, feigning ignorance because I want to bait you into saying something that I can deliberately misconstrue in order to accuse you of racism or anything. **Ruffles Guardian quite smugly as he relishes the thought of his incredibly clever plan**
Did you know that you can get gift aid on your Guardian subscription because it is a charity? It is set up to provide employment to journalists who cannot get work in newspapers which are financially successful.
@@billgiles3261 that needs to be challenged. Charities are forbidden from political campaigning. The purpose of the charity is in its constitution or Articles of Association.
Henry Law I am sorry that my pathetic attempt at humour failed to please you. So just for you: “I wonder if you can get gift aid on your Guardian subscription, because it looks like a charity seeking donations to provide employment for journalists who cannot get employment in newspapers which actually make a profit.”
"I voted Conservative for the first time in my life" Instead of asking "Why?" The clueless Guardian dude asks "How do you feel?" Classic !! That's why ! These people are completely clueless.
That young dude on the bus said they need to find out why people voted for Brexit, I thought those reasons were abundantly clear and explained ad nauseam?
Ironically Corbyn was always opposed to the EU, so I've read, but whatever. He probably saw this sort of resentment of the EU over the horizon, but the Labour members are largely remain. Ten years on this country will be different again. Most of the Brexit crowd will be dead and gone, and the thirty somethings that are full on Labour will be in middle age....
@@SEAL341 generally people grow up and out of left wing politics once they understand what life is all about so today's labour vote has always been tomorrow's Tory vote.
I can't believe I used to be a card carrying member of this lot. Gave it up after Blair's second term. Unfortunately, there is no Harold Wilson-type on the horizon.
@Alice Rabbit my grandfather fought for the British Crown. He was drafted from Belize and served in Asia during ww2. Does he not deserve UK citizenship because he is black? You literally had millions of Indians and Afro-Caribbean people's fighting your wars.
@Alice Rabbit well, if I'm fighting for a country, dont I deserve to reap some their benefits? Belize lacks post graduate school. Belize doesn't have the population and resources as the uk. Most of the foreigners(mainly British and Canadians) are buying up property which in turn causes the cost of living to increase. P.S. The allies won WW2.
@Arfur Fuxxakes er...I've no idea what they were thinking. EU freedom of movement means that they couldn't if they wanted to. If you want Immigration from Africa and Asia, have a word with Angela Merkel who decided to open europes gates to anyone without thinking to ask. At the very least, People could (after brexit) actually hold their own politicians accountable - Imagine that !
“The movement.” They speak like the Labour Party didn’t exist before they got involved. The manner of these people alone will never resonate with the Labour electorate.
Stupid thing to have an election in December? Maybe so, however it was also stupid for Corbyn to bang on about wanting an election and then backtracking when Boris called his bluff
The Guardian's fault. Some of us can still remember the editorial that appeared in The Guardian the day after the Brexit referendum, that ran along the lines of... "The working class shouldn't be allowed to vote".
Haha I love the based salt of the earth tatted up old geezer letting him know how it really is. "But what about Boris? You know he's Eton educated!!" - (more resentment towards the wealthy) "Well I wish I was too" Based.
Yes. Brilliant! He has no chip on his shoulder. He votes out of aspiration rather than a grudge. And the interviewer just doesn't understand him at all and comes out with rubbish about the NHS. Turns out that Labour have just as many NHS scandals as the tories do.
@@loopbackish wasn't the interviewer's point more that labour are more likely to provide the safety net from which a poor and unwell person like him can start climbing towards his aspirations, as opposed to the tories who are more likely to cut it?
@@domzbu No, he wouldn't have and you know that. The man at the end's opinions were misinformed and largely ignorant but I don't really blame him for that with the landscape we live in
3:57 - Q: "Do you get a sense of what the conservative party is all about?" A: "I feel like they are the party that you vote for if you want to keep the wealth you have accumulated over your lifetime and your parents have accumulated over their lifetime." .... lmfao. What a crazy thought, that even working class people who have worked hard for the entirety of their lives would want to keep the wealth and property that they've earned.
"I voted Conservative for the first time in my life" Instead of asking "Why?" The clueless Guardian dude asks "How do you feel?" Classic !! That's why !
How Labour lost? Number One, they ignored their core voters who believe that the EU cannot be held accountable, Number Two, The manifesto was a joke and they were willing to drop the country into unbelievable debt, Number Three, Corbyn - his personality and the way he favours the enemies of the country at the expense of the citizens of the country, Number Four, The Party Leadership whose focus controlled by momentum in perceived to be inside the M25 who thinks that the "Northern" Working Class no longer count as Working Class as that label belongs to their Peps in London. Until they get shot of the hyper opinionated clowns directing the party they'll have no chance of winning back voters.
@Bessie Hillum Two years no and the only things that have changed is, Corbyn is a none entity, and his replacement is a failed lawyer also a none entity.
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We don't want Brexit to fix the NHS, we want Brexit to stop the NHS from getting worse through helping to lower the high growth rate of the population!
“We are told to remember the idea and not the man. Because a man can fail. He can be caught, he can be killed and forgotten. But 400 years later, an idea can still change the world"
And all these years later, millions of deaths later, ~half dozen collapsed economies/countries later, people like Corbyn advocate the socialist ideas that are currently destroying Venezuela. Sometimes, it's for the worse.
*Labour Party offers significantly better funding for public services and policies to give lower income people a better chance in life. Everyone in this documentary "LaBouR hAve tUrneD thEre Bac oN thE wOrkIn clASS" (no explanation offered)
This video shows that grassroots Labour activists who were knocking on the doors, knew nothing about why working class people voted to leave. Need to completely re-evaluate who Labour are sending out to campaign if they want to win the next election.
Another reason i voted Conservative. I want to keep my hard earned money. That's a fair society, through education and opportunity. That's the path out of poverty.
It is not really your money. It is the pocket money that the government allows you to keep. It is just that Labour is a mean parent, taking money away from the hard working to give to the idlers, the fiddlers and the feckless.
A minibus full of believers being dropped off to spread their message in a town they've never visited before. Shouldn't they be giving everyone a copy of the Watchtower?
Actually it was MacMillan then Douglas-Hume in charge when the process began. Dr Richard Beeching was hired to produce a plan that would save fortunes on British railways. He proposed axing a third of the network and this was implemented under Wilson. The irony is that within a very few years a mixed diesel-electric system could have been in place, replacing coal and avoiding the 'dash for cars'. Beeching actually saw road transport as modern, efficient and clean. Strange how the world turns.
@David McCallum as I said - 'this was implemented under Wilson'. Are you an echo or just one of those who don't actually read what you comment on? Is your voice really so important?
The SNP should be the model for Labour. They are a genuine mass grassroots movement that working class people rural, urban and suburban get behind in massive numbers. They also have a unashamedly left-wing stance and message.
Its the young of that country I feel for. I never seen old people as self centered and greedy like those in the UK. They had every benefit the state could throw at you. Free NHS, social housing, university grant. Now they deny those same rights to others.
They're a nationalist party, at the end of the day that's their appeal. The Tories leaving the EU is in essence a nationalist party. When you figure this out, and mix it with left wing economics you tend to be really popular.
@@1gadena lol if you live outside London the last 10 years, you should probably hate who's been giving you crumbs and not investing in your local services while jobs move outside the country. Key you should hate the Tories for failing to invest in anywhere but London. Hopefully this ends under Boris but I doubt it.
Hans Hummer house prices have risen 61% relative to economy and I’m self employed. I have confidence on these fronts. Recession in Germany, France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal don’t warrant too much worry either.
"But Eton Educated, very wealthy?" "Well yeah, wish I was" Sums up everything nicely. Its not enough to hate somebody from the background they come from just because it was better than yours.
@Nathan-DTS Socialism isn't far left now? My how has the overton window shifted. People love "socialism" on its face because it looks like 0 cost charity, until the people realize what they're paying through taxes and what industry the government takes over, and inevitably stagnates.
@Nathan-DTS You also have loads of people coming in, many of whom can't possibly pay as much back into the system, straining the funding. Ever notice the NHS deficit going up as immigration does?
You labelled half your voting base gammon, shut down any cries about mass immigration as the talk of "facists", the entirety of your front bench had the benefit of private education while looking to remove the opportunity for everyone else, the list goes on....The Labour party is tone deaf. Champagne socialists.
Thank you John, the Anywhere but Westminster series have been phenomenal in the level of journalism you are providing, I hope you continue to document the changes that will be enacted over the next 5 years by the current government, and show people the continuation of London-centric policies that will further harm towns and cities around the UK. But y'know, at least they can 'Get Brexit Done'....whatever that means.
@@ladyfemi4288 I never mentioned the Labour Party? I was praising the journalistic discourse of the ABW series while hoping they will continue to show the damage being done around the country.
@@MrMmnngghh That's not true, and you know it. They wouldn't have got that vast majority if that was true, this is coming from someone that wanted to vote Labour. Only people that vote Labour seem to be us, the youth and those who have vowed to never vote Tory.
These people are so full of nonsense - they see everybody as a Victim, a Saviour or a Villain - when in reality most people are just trying to get by. I have no doubt that the volunteers in this video are well intentioned but they are crushingly naive. This country isn’t nearly as horrendous as the people in this video think it is.
Let me put it another way to you Chris, these people think they represent the working class, but when they ask what the working class and they say for example immigration control, they ignore the working class. Well if you dont agree with what the working class desire then you dont by default support/represent the working class do you. You dont get to choose what the working class want and desire.
Seeing the results in Milton Keynes and Stoke, it becomes clear where Labour's problems lie. Too little attention has been paid to: 1) Gender studies 2) Solidarity with the poor in Congo 3) The discrimination of transgender males over 36 4) Free taxi rides for students 5) The high rate of central heating in mid winter, adding dangerously to climate change Etc.
The person at the 4:00 mark said that the Conservative party is the one to vote for if you want to keep the wealth you've accumulated. Who wouldn't want to keep what they've earned? Its absolute madness to expect/want things for free at the expense of others.
The key word here is accumulate. What about inherited wealth? Does a share holder earn all of their dividends? What about rent seeking, accumulating wealth by simply owning things? Certainly, if you work for your wealth I don't think anyone would have a problem but there are people in society that make money just by virtue of existing and I don't think that should be allowed.
@@formerafro1199 A shareholder does earn those dividends. If you have a rental property then you will hopefully make a yield and that is also earned. It sounds like you don't believe in investing. Anyone can invest in practically anything. Your or I could go and set up an investment account, theres no exclusivity. Do you support/believe in pensions? They're made up of stocks and shares.
@@rossnorthcote9164 I think you have a very scewed view of the world if you think that because I gave a company some money I deserve a portion of their profits until the end of that company's life, the effort to invest is totally divorced from the "value" it produces because investment doesn't produce value. Labour does. Rent is not proportional to the labour of managing the property, how can you then say a landlord earned that rent from you. What does "earn" mean to you? If it means they worked for it, fine but don't tell me that landlords and shareholders earned their wealth. What labour have they put in proportional to their wealth? If it means that they deserve it in the eyes of society this works better, but divorces earn from any kind of objective moral claim. I am not against pensions. I am against people rationalising the current system of finance to say that it is somehow moral. And I am against people dismissing arguments for redistribution as theft saying they should earn their living when they don't even know what they mean by earn.
Read Dr David Owen's take on the E U and the NHS there are massive european medical company's waiting to carve it up. The enemy's of the NHS are closer than you think.
Bussing in the Waitrose light infantry and telling people how to vote is not gonna be a vote winner. All the things that the young women said at the beginning made my stomach churn.
Forgive me but I don't see the point in revolting against the opposition. They've not contributed any to the problems of modern Britain and they continually get the blame. Now it's for us to suffer another 5 years.
@@jonathancooper4914 I agree with that, the coalition starts outside of London and then slightly nuances to pick up those easy metropolitan votes inside London. Not the other way around.
Very naive. As a Conservative I believe in democracy so we do need a strong opposition to keep us on our toes. Not going to get it from those 'children'. Very very naive.
Really? Then you'll be impressed by the video thats doing the rounds from the protest last night of a girl wishing BJ to die a slow and horrible death.... She wants to be a Doctor..... What do you think about that?
@@IDK-eu7dv I don't live in Britain anymore. I did during most of the eighties, all of the nineties, and the first little bit of the new millennium. Britain's chance at a bright future came at the point when Major handed over to Blair; on reflection, Major was a mostly decent chap with a lack of personality and a terrible cabinet, especially Lamont. Blair started off like a rocket then got dragged into U.S. foreign policy shenanigans, then it was downhill through from Brown to Cameron to May to Johnson. The sad part is, is that there a plenty of talented, articulate, thoughtful, resilient and proactive people in England. From all walks of life and social strata. Unfortunately that doesn't sit well with the institutions and corporations, both domestic and overseas, that run the show behind the curtains, so it's back to divide and conquer again.
Baggy jumper student's thinking they know best. They are so blinkered. Momentum only hear what they want to hear, probably because they only speak to themselves.
Labour appear more concerned with the lives and betterment of foreign nationals than the citizens of Britain. One of the activists talks about 'what unites us' - yet the party excessively flirt with identity politics - which as a political stance concerns itself with what divides us.
@@neilbarton5235 Rupert Murdoch had nothing to do with it. The truth is working class labour votes have always been patriotic, nationalistic socially conservative voters. Labour used to represent that. Since it got taken over by London Elites, its alienated its core vote.
@@nevermind824 - absolutely spot on. After Gordon Browns encounter with that "bigotted woman" . They still chose not to listen...why would they when Momentum had all the answers !
3:57 so are they saying that as if it's a bad thing? That people who have earned money want to keep it? Is labour just a harbour for lazy people who want to get money for free of of those that have earned it?
I'd love to see a future party balance: fairer and more generous social welfare programs with, an unfailing commitment to freedom of speech and democratic accountability. A party that welcomes immigrants, but, is willing to shut the door when the demands on public services are unsustainable. A party that cooperates with other nations for mutual benefit, to reduce carbon emissions etc, fight terrorism and trade together, and yet, believes in the positive power of nations and doesn't want to talk Britain down because of historical grievances. Unfortunately, no such party exists in this extreme environment.
Just needed the first 30 seconds. London based Labour activists on some sort of crusade. Labour need to realise 90% of the UK's population lives outside of London. If they continue this metropolitan clique they're finished.
2:30 If you can't understand after three years that Brexit is about identity and the feeling you have about your place in the world around you, you'll never win more than 200 seats again.
@@milesthemelonator Focus on fixing the country and helping its citizens before helping those from outside of it.. These citizens have clearly been left in the dust. Brexit means focusing on the UK before anything else. The focus right now is way off..
@@milesthemelonator Ghouls is right that the labour party needs to look inward but he is wrong to say the party is too radical. The opposite is true. They were not radical enough. They failed to listen to, to represent and lead the working class. The centrist faction in Labour convinced Corbyn to aim for a second referendum a mistake that showed they were disconnected from these people. Ultimately the answer for the left lies outside of electoral politics, in raising class consciousness through community projects and union organising.
It's great that politics is alive and well but having to ship in London activists tells you how far removed Labour have shifted, the revolution has been rejected by the silent majority. Team GB not team London
John - a heartbreaking and honest account - gently delivered with care and respect. A great journalist (maybe one of the few left). So hope that Ruth gets back soon - her voice is much needed. Not a time to throw accusations - but to come together to reconnect with what unites us - and totally agree Labour has to connect to grassroots movements - community groups that cooperate collectively to help each other (the new cooperative movement). Still struggling to understand the disconnect as there were great policies that would have made a real differences in left behind places - but listening to the voices you brought to my ears was sobering and must be listened to so they can help write the polices for the future. Policy writing cannot just be in the party bubble of members - but must reach out to voters. These places must be won back in 5 years and the rebuilding must start now. Thanks for what you and the production team do.
Dave Lee carry on with your co-ops and grassroots and collectivism, it’s not gonna get you anything other than a bookshop or a whole food shop on the high street.
Collectivism, at any and all costs, is exactly why Labour (and the American Democrat party) have failed and will continue to fail. Willful ignorance, blame, elitism, and gross lack of self-awareness.
That posh girl in the the red hat is excruciating...."yah, totally". Inevitably a few years down the line she will be a middle class professional earning loads and married to an investment banker. It is all so totally false.
A former New Castle resident now in Texas here. I was a Left once. As a youth, lived in the UK and US, I was a hard Left hating the Republican. I moved to San Francisco and learned their lies, radical fees, fines and taxes. They survive on fees and fines and still are broke, I mean crazy amount. I now am a loyal Republican. I even canvas for the Left in the pass. Socialism, you will pay for those frees and corporations will move away and you'll be unemployed. It is easy to buy a house and get a job here in Texas and we get half the immigrants from failed California. We just made it harder to make Texas a State Income Tax state because we know they'll get the numbers and love spending.
Post election, I have just watched the entire series. Superbly done and reflects the mood of the country. Well done by the Guardian team that produced this segment.
This was a fantastic piece of entertainment. Do these young labour activists have any idea that they are fighting for policies that were rejected by the British people in the 1980s when youth politics was off the scale in terms of passion and polarisation. They are actually making the Labour party's position worse. The UK electorate have rejected Corbyn. It could be worse, look at how the Romanians rejected Nicolae Ceaușescu.
@@ONeill01 You may not have noticed but they became the party of the foreigner. Nothing says value for your labour like outside opposition being put above your own.
I really like John's videos they should win awards. Sadly the political class of Labour don't listen to the people they represent. The problem with the new university class and momentum are patronising arrogant and condescending and lectures the working class why they are wrong. Rather than doing what they were told to do. While the Torys have started putting forward working class candidates. LABOUR!! Play this video at you University lectures.
Anybody who is old enough to remember the 70's will know how bad times were under a left wing labour government. The unions had a stranglehold over the country. I remember my dad working a three day week. No money, no hope. Now fast forward to 2019. Nobody wanted a socialist system, it doesn't work. Labour bankrupt the country last time and we are still in austerity because of it. Now comrade Corbyn wanted to spend 1.2 trillion pounds to sort out the countries problems! WTF! We would be bankrupt for decades. Who do you think would be paying that ridiculous debt back? People with jobs. Working class people. All of us! The sooner we get rid of corbyn monoxide, the sooner the country can start to recover! 👍
@@graceomalley4 Given to us by labour and their "narnia" policies. Nobody likes austerity, but when you're skint, the last thing you do is go and borrow another 1.2 trillion, that really is utter madness!
"There are a lot of people who joined in the past three years who are its (labours) future" Sorry mate you haven't got it have you, most of us working class types are not communists and do not want far left socialist policies, centrism is the way to go, not extremism.
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And who are these socialist activists for the most part? Financially comfortable middle class university graduates with their degrees in humanities, living off Daddy's money, and having never done a proper days work in their lives. If they ever did get to sample their, 'socialist ideal', they'd be the first ones to complain, not having their smart phones, free speech and liberties that they all take for granted as part of a democracy. The typical, 'know-it-all-because-we're-better-educated-than-you', types who know nothing of how the real world actually works, instead wanting to act out some academic study experiment, in order to show their peers how wonderfully progress they are, whilst remaining in their comfortable, mostly white, gated and guarded communities.
London people telling people outside of London how to vote. What could possibly go wrong?
isn't that every politician as well, though?
Thornberry, Starmer, Corbyn a tight little London clique engaged in student politics. How do such people get to the top of Labour?
Champagne socialists at their finest
Delusional Islingtonians
This is what you get for turning your back on the working class
the working class man and women from yesterday year is getting smaller, they have gone lower middle class now, holidays abroad, second car, house extensions, second homes even etc....yes this country has problems but overall people are better off....I come from a working class family (Dad was a truck driver, Mum a cleaner) Yet I bought my house, run a van and car, we holiday twice a year, and had COVID not stepped in we are looking to buy a holiday let in Florida....the working class image is from a different age. If Labour want to be elected again then center left is the only option just ask Blair 🤷
the white working class
@@DUCATEA absolutely spot on. The working class hasn't been the majority for decades. It is the lower middle class that decides the government, and the Tories are much better at listening to what they (we) want.
It was the biggest and most ambitious manifesto for working people that I have ever seen in my lifetime. The "Labour have abandoned the working class" schtick was a con, it always will be a con. And if you fell for it, and voted for Boris and his smash grab job on public money because he said "Get Brexit done" well I guess you got conned too.
@@DUCATEA Blair wasn't really Centre Left , he was a pure Centrist masquerading as Centre Left.
Regardless of his political views , purely as a person he is piece of excrement.
Labour got exactly what they deserved
They got more than they deserve they shouldn’t have any seats at all the communists
Never seen so many privileged people telling everyone else how they should think
Well that's exactly what happened on Election Day.
Of course not. Neither you nor I are allowed in Whitehall, Wapping Newscorp or the Stock Exchange without the correct validated security pass.
Or how they should feel
@@adamsmith307 Yes, all those rich privileged people up North...haha
The Labour party is the party of the smug, upper-middle class university educated "socialist" who has nothing but sneering disdain for the historic labour voter.
What the labour party don't understand (or maybe they do but don't care) is that the working class they used to represent are and always have been socially conservative. And the thing the Middle-class, student socialist type labour party we have hate the most is social conservatism
sonofeast11 you are 100% right we’ll get our people back
Go to a private school. Lots of labourites who are very like this.
sonofeast11 by nature English people are social conservative even the staunch labour voter in those mining communities are Christian conservatives... we’ll take our Labour Party where it belongs we are not gonna give up now
@@joecramp2987 sinister
@@rodrigorodders7173 THe party gave up on you by desiring to replace you with foreigners. You wanna be THAT beaten of a housewife?
Labour are finally realising the world doesn’t revolve around twitter.
Exactly. Students.
Still a long way to go
Im not sure they are.
They put all their focus and energy on securing the young vote with their outrageous policies and buzz word crammed speeches knowing they are naive enough to believe it. Totally forgot about everyone else though and paid for it. You can now truly see the delusion that runs through the party with how they are unable to come to terms with the genuine reasons and failures that have lead to what’s labours worst result in almost 85 years.
savage but true!
Thing is. For every shouty justice warrior, there are 1000 people without twitter that can vote.
Agreed, but that ratio is falling day by day as every new voter will have some sort of online presence.
"Yeah, totally"
And this is something they can't grasp.
The most insightful political commentary I've heard years.
I got permanently banned from twitter, you’ve got to sing the same songs to be a twitter member otherwise your comments are removed and eventually you get banned.
1:26 this is why Labour lost, because rather than being the party of Labour Class, it became the party of the Metropolitan College Socialist that never had a proper day of Labour in their lifes
I don't disagree. What I don't understand is why a disaffected Labour voter would actively vote Conservative rather than abstaining/spoiling their ballot or voting for the Greens or a local independent?
Nailed it. Permission to copy and cite your name.
Philip Harper Possibly bc it would amount to being the same thing. A “non-voting” Labour voter is a vote for the more popular party.
@@pvm6732 I don't think I follow. Correct me if I'm wrong but these people haven't just decided they support The Conservative Manifesto (or have they, is that what I'm missing?). My understanding is that they are disaffected with Labour and not suddenly pro Tory. So why not vote for a party that is closer to their beliefs or spoil their ballet? I have heard people on the radio saying they voted Conservative but were gutted when they heard the result?
@@filusmaximus They in many cases did. The Brexit Party most certainly assisted the Tories in breaking the Red Wall but there was also a considerable shift for the Tories. For these traditional left and working-class voters in Labour strongholds feelings of Euroskepticism are very strong. Combine Corbyn's indecisiveness on a stance on Brexit with the Tory manifesto being a departure from the Thatcherite feelings that have dominated the party since the '80s and a return to a more Harold Macmillian-esque interventionism and economic populism and it was the perfect storm for this historic result. Much like the American Rust Belt these areas had been abandoned by the governments of both major parties and the party that dominated these regions (Labour in the Midlands, Northeast and Northwest, Democrats in the Rust Belt) had really only paid lip service to these communities as they continued to decline. This decline predates the last decade of Tory administration as another commenter was unable to understand why these voters would vote Tory knowing that. It goes back to Thatcher and Blair. In the end, they (in my opinion correctly) associated their decline with neoliberal policies of both parties which are also associated with membership in the EU. One too many betrayals and indecisive policy points on Brexit did this to Labour. If Jeremy Corbyn had stuck with the left Euroskepticism he had so many years ago and still probably has at heart, this result would have been different.
That was not a "loss" - that was a public humiliation.
@Hans Hummer It seems like a lesson not learned as well from the excuses made and Corbyn not resigning straight away. Likely a Corbynista will take over from him and eventually Labour will not be main opposition.
It was the modern political equivalent of being whipped naked through the streets
It reminded me of when Loki got spanked by The Hulk.
It was justice.
Wonder how many are regretting that conservative and brexit vote these days. Not working out to well for the UK these days.
Sorry John Labour has for decades now been totally divorced from the values and instincts of most provincial working-class British people, the type of people who staffed British industry and filled the ranks of the British army. Labour dislike our history and traditions and want to change us as a recognisable people. They just go on about the institutions, like the NHS, that have been made possible by a group of people bonded together by shared and self-confident history and values; while doing everything possible to destroy those bonds.
I can't believe Labour thought that saying they would set up a committee to investigate British history and identify if we need to pay compensation to any countries for anything that happened during the British empire would do anything other than alienate proud British working class people.
@@seamuskirkpatrick1 Patriotism, self-reliance, family, and to keep what you earn. To name a few.
Myus, could you please explain what so-called "history", "traditions" and "bonds" English people share? I genuinely am an adult who has no idea about the history and traditions of my own nation and am definitely not just asking this question in bad faith, feigning ignorance because I want to bait you into saying something that I can deliberately misconstrue in order to accuse you of racism or anything. **Ruffles Guardian quite smugly as he relishes the thought of his incredibly clever plan**
@@Mister.Weatherbee ... While not having to pay for schooling, doctor's appointments, surgery, the filling of potholes. To name a few a caveats.
@@SO-SOgood those are not "values". That's not part of a person's value structure. It's just social welfare.
The Guardian itself represents exactly those views that cause labour to be so much on the nose. Carry on Guardian and you will be history too.
There is almost nothing worth reading on the Guardian's website this week.
Andrew Blake true
Did you know that you can get gift aid on your Guardian subscription because it is a charity? It is set up to provide employment to journalists who cannot get work in newspapers which are financially successful.
@@billgiles3261 that needs to be challenged. Charities are forbidden from political campaigning. The purpose of the charity is in its constitution or Articles of Association.
Henry Law I am sorry that my pathetic attempt at humour failed to please you. So just for you: “I wonder if you can get gift aid on your Guardian subscription, because it looks like a charity seeking donations to provide employment for journalists who cannot get employment in newspapers which actually make a profit.”
"I voted Conservative for the first time in my life" Instead of asking "Why?" The clueless Guardian dude asks "How do you feel?" Classic !! That's why ! These people are completely clueless.
Low key trying to shame him.
@@tlome8033 Excellent analysis. You are totally correct.
That young dude on the bus said they need to find out why people voted for Brexit, I thought those reasons were abundantly clear and explained ad nauseam?
Cubeh if they’re clear, the Labour Party did nothing to connect to those reasons or those people.
What he really meant was we need to persuade people they were wrong for voting brexit
Ironically Corbyn was always opposed to the EU, so I've read, but whatever. He probably saw this sort of resentment of the EU over the horizon, but the Labour members are largely remain. Ten years on this country will be different again. Most of the Brexit crowd will be dead and gone, and the thirty somethings that are full on Labour will be in middle age....
@@SEAL341 generally people grow up and out of left wing politics once they understand what life is all about so today's labour vote has always been tomorrow's Tory vote.
Mr. Braddock I’m 30 now and detest Labour. They’ve made me a minority in my own city. You’re deluded to put it politely. I would never vote Labour!
I can't believe I used to be a card carrying member of this lot. Gave it up after Blair's second term. Unfortunately, there is no Harold Wilson-type on the horizon.
Jess Phillips?Starmer as no 2?
@@jbagger331 Usually Phillips is articuate.
Check out the For Britain party led by Anne Marie Waters.
Common sense, new ideas and very courageous
The working classes don't won't to compete for there jobs with the whole world.
Too late
@Alice Rabbit my grandfather fought for the British Crown. He was drafted from Belize and served in Asia during ww2. Does he not deserve UK citizenship because he is black? You literally had millions of Indians and Afro-Caribbean people's fighting your wars.
@Alice Rabbit well, if I'm fighting for a country, dont I deserve to reap some their benefits? Belize lacks post graduate school. Belize doesn't have the population and resources as the uk. Most of the foreigners(mainly British and Canadians) are buying up property which in turn causes the cost of living to increase.
P.S. The allies won WW2.
Against the Chinese in the sweet shops.
@Arfur Fuxxakes er...I've no idea what they were thinking. EU freedom of movement means that they couldn't if they wanted to. If you want Immigration from Africa and Asia, have a word with Angela Merkel who decided to open europes gates to anyone without thinking to ask. At the very least, People could (after brexit) actually hold their own politicians accountable - Imagine that !
“The movement.” They speak like the Labour Party didn’t exist before they got involved. The manner of these people alone will never resonate with the Labour electorate.
Stupid thing to have an election in December? Maybe so, however it was also stupid for Corbyn to bang on about wanting an election and then backtracking when Boris called his bluff
Yes, Labour delayed the election and now they moan about it.
Still sneers at the sick old man for not voting how he's expected.
who you calling a sick old man. not very nice
Will this is how you extract the causes of his voting as journalist
The Guardian's fault. Some of us can still remember the editorial that appeared in The Guardian the day after the Brexit referendum, that ran along the lines of... "The working class shouldn't be allowed to vote".
When Labour accepts that British Nationalism does not have to be right wing. They may get elected into power again.
Hear, hear.
Haha I love the based salt of the earth tatted up old geezer letting him know how it really is.
"But what about Boris? You know he's Eton educated!!" - (more resentment towards the wealthy)
"Well I wish I was too"
Based.
Yes. Brilliant! He has no chip on his shoulder. He votes out of aspiration rather than a grudge. And the interviewer just doesn't understand him at all and comes out with rubbish about the NHS. Turns out that Labour have just as many NHS scandals as the tories do.
@@loopbackish wasn't the interviewer's point more that labour are more likely to provide the safety net from which a poor and unwell person like him can start climbing towards his aspirations, as opposed to the tories who are more likely to cut it?
TomYeeha not anymore. And Corbyn would just make the whole country very very poor
@@domzbu No, he wouldn't have and you know that. The man at the end's opinions were misinformed and largely ignorant but I don't really blame him for that with the landscape we live in
@@francisr8563 I bet you pretend not to see when Thorrnberry coasts by in the back of her Bentley swigging champagne.
3:57 - Q: "Do you get a sense of what the conservative party is all about?" A: "I feel like they are the party that you vote for if you want to keep the wealth you have accumulated over your lifetime and your parents have accumulated over their lifetime." .... lmfao. What a crazy thought, that even working class people who have worked hard for the entirety of their lives would want to keep the wealth and property that they've earned.
Exactly, which is why right to buy was VERY popular amongst the working class
outside of London is another world.
WanoLab….so is inside London believe me..... !
That world's called England
"I voted Conservative for the first time in my life" Instead of asking "Why?" The clueless Guardian dude asks "How do you feel?" Classic !! That's why !
How Labour lost? Number One, they ignored their core voters who believe that the EU cannot be held accountable, Number Two, The manifesto was a joke and they were willing to drop the country into unbelievable debt, Number Three, Corbyn - his personality and the way he favours the enemies of the country at the expense of the citizens of the country, Number Four, The Party Leadership whose focus controlled by momentum in perceived to be inside the M25 who thinks that the "Northern" Working Class no longer count as Working Class as that label belongs to their Peps in London. Until they get shot of the hyper opinionated clowns directing the party they'll have no chance of winning back voters.
@Bessie Hillum Two years no and the only things that have changed is, Corbyn is a none entity, and his replacement is a failed lawyer also a none entity.
We don't want Brexit to fix the NHS, we want Brexit to stop the NHS from getting worse through helping to lower the high growth rate of the population!
But where are all those British doctors, when I've been in hospital they're immigrant doctors treating white British people.
@@chriswatson3464 because the NHS has swamped with foreign doctors they has no incentive to train up native labour anymore by governments sadly
“We are told to remember the idea and not the man. Because a man can fail. He can be caught, he can be killed and forgotten. But 400 years later, an idea can still change the world"
Terrible ideas should be forgotten however.
Unfortunately they voted for BoJo, though.
Not all ideas change the world for the better.
Was that Stalin or Lenin ? Hitler maybe ?
And all these years later, millions of deaths later, ~half dozen collapsed economies/countries later, people like Corbyn advocate the socialist ideas that are currently destroying Venezuela.
Sometimes, it's for the worse.
*Labour Party offers significantly better funding for public services and policies to give lower income people a better chance in life.
Everyone in this documentary "LaBouR hAve tUrneD thEre Bac oN thE wOrkIn clASS" (no explanation offered)
You know you lost when you can't even get your people to show up and vote.
pik nick a lot of potential labour voters can’t register because they’re fiddling benefits
5
This video shows that grassroots Labour activists who were knocking on the doors, knew nothing about why working class people voted to leave. Need to completely re-evaluate who Labour are sending out to campaign if they want to win the next election.
I'm not sure I've ever encountered anyone who claims to want Brexit in order to save the NHS.
This.
Boris Johnson 😂?
“Not feeling well, I’ve got emphysema”
“Never mind about that, who you voting for?”
Could’ve asked if he needed anything.
4:01 lad reflects on how unjust that people should keep their own money
Another reason i voted Conservative. I want to keep my hard earned money. That's a fair society, through education and opportunity. That's the path out of poverty.
@@craig581 how dare you wish to look after your future generations' financial well being.
You want to keep your own money and give it to your children rather than that guy? Racist!!!! (sarc)
It is not really your money. It is the pocket money that the government allows you to keep. It is just that Labour is a mean parent, taking money away from the hard working to give to the idlers, the fiddlers and the feckless.
A minibus full of believers being dropped off to spread their message in a town they've never visited before. Shouldn't they be giving everyone a copy of the Watchtower?
Oh dear, a little embarrassing really.
Ruth lost her seat by 6,000 votes. The Labour party needs a hard look at itself.....
Jose Olivares LWEP
A great result. No point in Labout looking at themselves. They all wear rose tinted spectacles.
You know they won't. They'll just double down and claim they had won the argument all along. A leftist will never, EVER admit he's wrong.
We all know that if the left loses then its rigged. I mean just look at twitter. Lol
You've got to lose socialism, or you'll lose your party!
They think more socialist ideas are the answer. Labour needs to swing back to the centre, or face annihilation.
Fabianism was a bad idea.
Margaret Thatcher did for the railways?
I understood it was under Harold Wilson, that the most severe cuts took place?
They even closed more pits than thatcher too
Actually it was MacMillan then Douglas-Hume in charge when the process began. Dr Richard Beeching was hired to produce a plan that would save fortunes on British railways. He proposed axing a third of the network and this was implemented under Wilson. The irony is that within a very few years a mixed diesel-electric system could have been in place, replacing coal and avoiding the 'dash for cars'. Beeching actually saw road transport as modern, efficient and clean. Strange how the world turns.
It was WW2 that did for the railways - allied to a post war dependency on steam traction to keep the NUM and ASLEF happy.
@David McCallum as I said - 'this was implemented under Wilson'. Are you an echo or just one of those who don't actually read what you comment on? Is your voice really so important?
The SNP should be the model for Labour. They are a genuine mass grassroots movement that working class people rural, urban and suburban get behind in massive numbers. They also have a unashamedly left-wing stance and message.
And, most importantly, a strong leader. Like it or not, Corbyn has not been a strong leader.
Its the young of that country I feel for. I never seen old people as self centered and greedy like those in the UK. They had every benefit the state could throw at you. Free NHS, social housing, university grant. Now they deny those same rights to others.
They're a nationalist party, at the end of the day that's their appeal. The Tories leaving the EU is in essence a nationalist party. When you figure this out, and mix it with left wing economics you tend to be really popular.
Because they are nationalists and rely on Scottish identity. Labour hates Britain and britains identity
@@1gadena lol if you live outside London the last 10 years, you should probably hate who's been giving you crumbs and not investing in your local services while jobs move outside the country.
Key you should hate the Tories for failing to invest in anywhere but London. Hopefully this ends under Boris but I doubt it.
I always expect John to breakdown in tears at the end of each episode!
Maybe that's why he always holds the camera wonky ;)
He has heart.
"The history's gonna be so much sweeter"
Beautiful.
Hans Hummer house prices have risen 61% relative to economy and I’m self employed. I have confidence on these fronts. Recession in Germany, France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal don’t warrant too much worry either.
@Hans Hummer House prices need to come down. Although they probably wont.
"Equality, helping the poor and fairness Yah".
"Now where's my Uber?".
🎶Send in the clowns🎶
Two words seem to typify current UK politics. Cognitive Dissonance.
Murdoch poison
@@mykehog6646 The right wing press pretty much manufactured consent for Johnson
@@Flannel535 cognitive impairment and cognitive dissonance are separate.
What one in your opinion, do you show the obvious signs of having?
Tory Knobheads
@Nathan-DTS - Lack of empathy for the working class is exactly why your commies lost.
3:30 "The victory's going to be so much sweeter" HAHAHAHA
Never vote Labour again ever!
"But Eton Educated, very wealthy?"
"Well yeah, wish I was"
Sums up everything nicely. Its not enough to hate somebody from the background they come from just because it was better than yours.
Mmm... simplification maybe but definitely am left with the sense Leavers left Labour
JTR And Labour left Leavers and the British working class.
@Nathan-DTS
Socialism isn't far left now? My how has the overton window shifted.
People love "socialism" on its face because it looks like 0 cost charity, until the people realize what they're paying through taxes and what industry the government takes over, and inevitably stagnates.
@Nathan-DTS
You also have loads of people coming in, many of whom can't possibly pay as much back into the system, straining the funding. Ever notice the NHS deficit going up as immigration does?
You labelled half your voting base gammon, shut down any cries about mass immigration as the talk of "facists", the entirety of your front bench had the benefit of private education while looking to remove the opportunity for everyone else, the list goes on....The Labour party is tone deaf. Champagne socialists.
@Nathan-DTS Socialism by definition, is far left. You nitwit.
We just watched the most impressive way to fail since 1935
It's not over until Greta sings!
martynblackburn1977 she sang her first tune by admitting that the school strikes were ineffective.
Tony Blair said when he won in 1997 "The working class have no where to go", and he was right until Brexit!
thats what obombas aids said in the usa....
@@uttaradit2 Who is obomba?
@@honved1 Joe Biden's president My Boss.
So where are the working class going, now? On the dole.
Thank you John, the Anywhere but Westminster series have been phenomenal in the level of journalism you are providing, I hope you continue to document the changes that will be enacted over the next 5 years by the current government, and show people the continuation of London-centric policies that will further harm towns and cities around the UK. But y'know, at least they can 'Get Brexit Done'....whatever that means.
Adam Le Bree you have learnt nothing from the results.
London centric? Have you not noticed that Labour is now an elitist London centric party?
@@ladyfemi4288 I never mentioned the Labour Party? I was praising the journalistic discourse of the ABW series while hoping they will continue to show the damage being done around the country.
@@ladyfemi4288 The Conservatives are an elitist London centric party.
@@MrMmnngghh That's not true, and you know it. They wouldn't have got that vast majority if that was true, this is coming from someone that wanted to vote Labour. Only people that vote Labour seem to be us, the youth and those who have vowed to never vote Tory.
@@MrMmnngghh Most of London was red as well dude, I just don't understand ...
Apart from all the politics,
Can we show the old bloke some love?
Hope he got better :)!
More salt than the dead sea. love it!!!
These people are so full of nonsense - they see everybody as a Victim, a Saviour or a Villain - when in reality most people are just trying to get by.
I have no doubt that the volunteers in this video are well intentioned but they are crushingly naive. This country isn’t nearly as horrendous as the people in this video think it is.
Let me put it another way to you Chris, these people think they represent the working class, but when they ask what the working class and they say for example immigration control, they ignore the working class. Well if you dont agree with what the working class desire then you dont by default support/represent the working class do you.
You dont get to choose what the working class want and desire.
First Name Completely agree.
Seeing the results in Milton Keynes and Stoke, it becomes clear where Labour's problems lie. Too little attention has been paid to:
1) Gender studies
2) Solidarity with the poor in Congo
3) The discrimination of transgender males over 36
4) Free taxi rides for students
5) The high rate of central heating in mid winter, adding dangerously to climate change
Etc.
So funny because it is so true lol
The person at the 4:00 mark said that the Conservative party is the one to vote for if you want to keep the wealth you've accumulated. Who wouldn't want to keep what they've earned? Its absolute madness to expect/want things for free at the expense of others.
They believe govt will regulate and tax fairly and all will be great.. Doh. facepalm.
The key word here is accumulate. What about inherited wealth? Does a share holder earn all of their dividends? What about rent seeking, accumulating wealth by simply owning things? Certainly, if you work for your wealth I don't think anyone would have a problem but there are people in society that make money just by virtue of existing and I don't think that should be allowed.
@@formerafro1199 A shareholder does earn those dividends. If you have a rental property then you will hopefully make a yield and that is also earned.
It sounds like you don't believe in investing. Anyone can invest in practically anything. Your or I could go and set up an investment account, theres no exclusivity. Do you support/believe in pensions? They're made up of stocks and shares.
@@rossnorthcote9164 I think you have a very scewed view of the world if you think that because I gave a company some money I deserve a portion of their profits until the end of that company's life, the effort to invest is totally divorced from the "value" it produces because investment doesn't produce value. Labour does.
Rent is not proportional to the labour of managing the property, how can you then say a landlord earned that rent from you.
What does "earn" mean to you? If it means they worked for it, fine but don't tell me that landlords and shareholders earned their wealth. What labour have they put in proportional to their wealth? If it means that they deserve it in the eyes of society this works better, but divorces earn from any kind of objective moral claim.
I am not against pensions. I am against people rationalising the current system of finance to say that it is somehow moral. And I am against people dismissing arguments for redistribution as theft saying they should earn their living when they don't even know what they mean by earn.
Labour supporters really dont have a clue do they. Im so glad they got routed. Time for a more intelligent movement now.
Scubasausage let’s see how that works out for you
@@kaspermichaels2520 salty
The Guy saying People wanted Brexit because of fears over the NHS lol,that alone tells you how out of touch these loons really are.
Read Dr David Owen's take on the E U and the NHS there are massive european medical company's waiting to carve it up. The enemy's of the NHS are closer than you think.
I wondered where he was going with it.......”Leave voters did it for labour reasons like the NHS”.......wait what.
'Wish I was.' Strange how this little film made me tremendously sadder than after the election results, even though I'm in no way a Labournite.
Labour out of business, now get the Guardian to go bankrupt!
Bussing in the Waitrose light infantry and telling people how to vote is not gonna be a vote winner.
All the things that the young women said at the beginning made my stomach churn.
A working class revolt against the so called party of the working class. How ironic!
Forgive me but I don't see the point in revolting against the opposition. They've not contributed any to the problems of modern Britain and they continually get the blame. Now it's for us to suffer another 5 years.
Callum Pritchard Labour isn’t working class enough and in too few places.
@@jonathancooper4914 This could the be revival of One Nation Conservatism, sensible politics for all class
Let's see after 5 years of inevitable broken Tory promises how that'll stand up...
these days labour is for the non working class
I find the young activists hopeful, but also naïve. Not sure they are going to fix labour.
Symbioticism only getting the Labour Party out of London will fix it.
@@jonathancooper4914 I agree with that, the coalition starts outside of London and then slightly nuances to pick up those easy metropolitan votes inside London. Not the other way around.
Very naive. As a Conservative I believe in democracy so we do need a strong opposition to keep us on our toes. Not going to get it from those 'children'. Very very naive.
Really? Then you'll be impressed by the video thats doing the rounds from the protest last night of a girl wishing BJ to die a slow and horrible death....
She wants to be a Doctor.....
What do you think about that?
@Realist 1801 Those strikes were people fighting for a livelyhood, and they got zero support from the government. I was there too!
The people never mentioned their local MPs...
It was always Johnson v Corbyn.
Almost like a Presidential race 🤔.
to keep the public docile and uninformed.
@@MrMmnngghh just accept the result mate, we need to move on together. That's how democracy works.
And many wanted to leave Europe because "they didn't know who their MEP was"...
@@IDK-eu7dv I don't live in Britain anymore. I did during most of the eighties, all of the nineties, and the first little bit of the new millennium. Britain's chance at a bright future came at the point when Major handed over to Blair; on reflection, Major was a mostly decent chap with a lack of personality and a terrible cabinet, especially Lamont. Blair started off like a rocket then got dragged into U.S. foreign policy shenanigans, then it was downhill through from Brown to Cameron to May to Johnson.
The sad part is, is that there a plenty of talented, articulate, thoughtful, resilient and proactive people in England. From all walks of life and social strata. Unfortunately that doesn't sit well with the institutions and corporations, both domestic and overseas, that run the show behind the curtains, so it's back to divide and conquer again.
@@MrMmnngghh ok boomer
Baggy jumper student's thinking they know best. They are so blinkered. Momentum only hear what they want to hear, probably because they only speak to themselves.
Labour appear more concerned with the lives and betterment of foreign nationals than the citizens of Britain. One of the activists talks about 'what unites us' - yet the party excessively flirt with identity politics - which as a political stance concerns itself with what divides us.
This is probably the only part of the Guardian that gets it.
I don't think there was one working class person in that Labour bus.
"No matter what the result is today, or tomorrow, the movement can only grow from this"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Boris is "very wealthy".
And Jeremy Corbyn isn't?
Do me a favour.
Why did Labour lose? One word...Guardianista's
blair is as far left as england is willing to go. let that sink in
Rad McCool as far left as Rupert Murdoch is willing to go
@@neilbarton5235 Rupert Murdoch had nothing to do with it. The truth is working class labour votes have always been patriotic, nationalistic socially conservative voters. Labour used to represent that. Since it got taken over by London Elites, its alienated its core vote.
Harold Wilson?
@@nevermind824 - absolutely spot on. After Gordon Browns encounter with that "bigotted woman" . They still chose not to listen...why would they when Momentum had all the answers !
Neil Barton all the media’s fault. Ridiculous.
3:26 "I'm ready for more 'cos the victory is going to be so much sweeter amongst all this adversity..."
Wonder how the crushing defeat felt? lol
3:57 so are they saying that as if it's a bad thing? That people who have earned money want to keep it? Is labour just a harbour for lazy people who want to get money for free of of those that have earned it?
These people have lost so much hope.
The most difficult prison to escape from is the one you create for yourself.
Look where they live, the prison isn't just in their mind.
@@Jimmy4video it's not a prison. In some ways it's worse. At least in prison you're guaranteed food and shelter.
@@2020_Visi0n yeah but you have less chance of getting stabbed in prison.
Its only a prison if you build it yourself reap what you sow UK
Give it a rest will ya?? They are probably in the pub having a few beers!! Prison? Never read such fantasist drivel
I'd love to see a future party balance: fairer and more generous social welfare programs with, an unfailing commitment to freedom of speech and democratic accountability. A party that welcomes immigrants, but, is willing to shut the door when the demands on public services are unsustainable. A party that cooperates with other nations for mutual benefit, to reduce carbon emissions etc, fight terrorism and trade together, and yet, believes in the positive power of nations and doesn't want to talk Britain down because of historical grievances. Unfortunately, no such party exists in this extreme environment.
I'm here for the comments from salty globalises
Likewise, guardian comments section is a gold mine
Can't spell what you want to make fun of lol
TOTAL FREEDOM You lost lad.
The Labour Party are not patriotic, that's the problem for me.
Just needed the first 30 seconds. London based Labour activists on some sort of crusade. Labour need to realise 90% of the UK's population lives outside of London. If they continue this metropolitan clique they're finished.
2:30 If you can't understand after three years that Brexit is about identity and the feeling you have about your place in the world around you, you'll never win more than 200 seats again.
Sure but how do you respond to that as the labour party?
@@milesthemelonator Focus on fixing the country and helping its citizens before helping those from outside of it.. These citizens have clearly been left in the dust. Brexit means focusing on the UK before anything else. The focus right now is way off..
@@milesthemelonator Ghouls is right that the labour party needs to look inward but he is wrong to say the party is too radical. The opposite is true. They were not radical enough. They failed to listen to, to represent and lead the working class. The centrist faction in Labour convinced Corbyn to aim for a second referendum a mistake that showed they were disconnected from these people.
Ultimately the answer for the left lies outside of electoral politics, in raising class consciousness through community projects and union organising.
It's great that politics is alive and well but having to ship in London activists tells you how far removed Labour have shifted, the revolution has been rejected by the silent majority.
Team GB not team London
John - a heartbreaking and honest account - gently delivered with care and respect. A great journalist (maybe one of the few left). So hope that Ruth gets back soon - her voice is much needed. Not a time to throw accusations - but to come together to reconnect with what unites us - and totally agree Labour has to connect to grassroots movements - community groups that cooperate collectively to help each other (the new cooperative movement). Still struggling to understand the disconnect as there were great policies that would have made a real differences in left behind places - but listening to the voices you brought to my ears was sobering and must be listened to so they can help write the polices for the future. Policy writing cannot just be in the party bubble of members - but must reach out to voters. These places must be won back in 5 years and the rebuilding must start now. Thanks for what you and the production team do.
Well said....I agree with all of that.
Dave Lee carry on with your co-ops and grassroots and collectivism, it’s not gonna get you anything other than a bookshop or a whole food shop on the high street.
Collectivism, at any and all costs, is exactly why Labour (and the American Democrat party) have failed and will continue to fail. Willful ignorance, blame, elitism, and gross lack of self-awareness.
Labour are now kids, Commies and the CBI.
A very decent person, she.
That posh girl in the the red hat is excruciating...."yah, totally". Inevitably a few years down the line she will be a middle class professional earning loads and married to an investment banker. It is all so totally false.
I am working class but Labour did not stand for anything I believe in. The young party members don’t know what a left wing government would bring.
Britain has had enough of the Liberal far left socialist ideology. Bye now.
A former New Castle resident now in Texas here. I was a Left once. As a youth, lived in the UK and US, I was a hard Left hating the Republican. I moved to San Francisco and learned their lies, radical fees, fines and taxes. They survive on fees and fines and still are broke, I mean crazy amount. I now am a loyal Republican. I even canvas for the Left in the pass. Socialism, you will pay for those frees and corporations will move away and you'll be unemployed. It is easy to buy a house and get a job here in Texas and we get half the immigrants from failed California. We just made it harder to make Texas a State Income Tax state because we know they'll get the numbers and love spending.
Post election, I have just watched the entire series. Superbly done and reflects the mood of the country. Well done by the Guardian team that produced this segment.
This was a fantastic piece of entertainment. Do these young labour activists have any idea that they are fighting for policies that were rejected by the British people in the 1980s when youth politics was off the scale in terms of passion and polarisation.
They are actually making the Labour party's position worse.
The UK electorate have rejected Corbyn. It could be worse, look at how the Romanians rejected Nicolae Ceaușescu.
The Labour party received that well and truly deserved political kicking.... you do not ignore a democratic decision....
Labour abandoned the white working class years ago.
In what way did they abandoned the working class?
@@ONeill01 You may not have noticed but they became the party of the foreigner. Nothing says value for your labour like outside opposition being put above your own.
@instant truth on what?
@@blunderingfool Really? I thought the unions of the working class funded and voted internally for Corbyn.
@instant truth I've asked you a question and you hadn't answered, who's thick here?
haha, watching this was brilliant - haven't enjoyed anything like this since the election night itself!
People rejected EU €usterity for Democratic Sovereignty.
There was never any EU ‘sovereignty’. But what britain has chosen is mediocrity and a dead-end future.
The reds would have finished this country off. At least we have Brexit in the bag now.
They almost did back in 2008
Calling bigots and racist all the voters who doesn't agree with you is not the best strategy, for sure.
Clearly not but they still haven't learned. I actually don't think they want to, they seem to want labour to be niche group .
I really like John's videos they should win awards. Sadly the political class of Labour don't listen to the people they represent. The problem with the new university class and momentum are patronising arrogant and condescending and lectures the working class why they are wrong. Rather than doing what they were told to do. While the Torys have started putting forward working class candidates. LABOUR!! Play this video at you University lectures.
lots of nice middle class people telling working class how to vote
Anybody who is old enough to remember the 70's will know how bad times were under a left wing labour government. The unions had a stranglehold over the country. I remember my dad working a three day week. No money, no hope. Now fast forward to 2019. Nobody wanted a socialist system, it doesn't work. Labour bankrupt the country last time and we are still in austerity because of it. Now comrade Corbyn wanted to spend 1.2 trillion pounds to sort out the countries problems! WTF! We would be bankrupt for decades. Who do you think would be paying that ridiculous debt back? People with jobs. Working class people. All of us! The sooner we get rid of corbyn monoxide, the sooner the country can start to recover! 👍
@Hugh Jones EVERYTHING to do with labour. Now get ready for five more glorious years of tory goodness my friend 😁
Madness! You like the last decade of Tory austerity then?
@@graceomalley4 Given to us by labour and their "narnia" policies. Nobody likes austerity, but when you're skint, the last thing you do is go and borrow another 1.2 trillion, that really is utter madness!
Nick King heard of Keynesian economics?
They have absolutely no idea why people want Brexit and it shows
"There are a lot of people who joined in the past three years who are its (labours) future" Sorry mate you haven't got it have you, most of us working class types are not communists and do not want far left socialist policies, centrism is the way to go, not extremism.
And who are these socialist activists for the most part? Financially comfortable middle class university graduates with their degrees in humanities, living off Daddy's money, and having never done a proper days work in their lives. If they ever did get to sample their, 'socialist ideal', they'd be the first ones to complain, not having their smart phones, free speech and liberties that they all take for granted as part of a democracy. The typical, 'know-it-all-because-we're-better-educated-than-you', types who know nothing of how the real world actually works, instead wanting to act out some academic study experiment, in order to show their peers how wonderfully progress they are, whilst remaining in their comfortable, mostly white, gated and guarded communities.
adrian richards - Never a truer word spoken proud countryman. Well said.
Yes, and young people grow up and realise utopia doesn't exist.
Oh look, it's John Harris, The Guardian's token northerner