Britain’s New Fringe Parties Explained

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  • @MacrobianNomad
    @MacrobianNomad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1390

    Fox got beat by a trolling TH-camr 😭

    • @SquidgyPixel
      @SquidgyPixel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      He got so salty with Max Fosh xD

    • @realhorrorshow8547
      @realhorrorshow8547 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Last I heard, Fox submitted his paperwork for the Mayoral election with mere hours left before the deadline. So, if there was anything wrong there would be no time to fix it. There was something wrong. He won't be a candidate this time.

    • @zaksharman
      @zaksharman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@SquidgyPixel I thought that was Niko Omilana?

    • @MrMister64
      @MrMister64 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +86

      ​@@zaksharman both ran, Niko got more votes though.

    • @tomrogue13
      @tomrogue13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yeah Max can't second to last

  • @Claymunism
    @Claymunism 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +462

    Something fishy is going on between Salmon and Sturgeon, not sure exactly what it is yet.

    • @ASocialistTransGirl
      @ASocialistTransGirl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      fish are so cool 🐟🐟🐟🐠🐠🦈🦈

    • @gordonstrong5232
      @gordonstrong5232 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I do love a fish pun, sometimes I make one just for the halibut.
      (Yes, I did nick that off a penguin wrapper)

    • @bryanalexander2508
      @bryanalexander2508 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Let’s hope that can of worms isn’t opened any time soon…

    • @benji.3002
      @benji.3002 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ASocialistTransGirlI've seen you in so many comment sections recently and it's great, go off girl!

    • @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword
      @Weirdisjustabrownandyellowword 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@ASocialistTransGirlI love fish 🦈🐟🐠🐡

  • @petertaylor4647
    @petertaylor4647 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +481

    Britain will always be a two party system as long as first past the post isn't changed to another type of voting

    • @davidz2690
      @davidz2690 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Well we did vote on it but the propaganda from the 2 parties it benefits was always going to be hard to beat

    • @Emsworth377
      @Emsworth377 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Yep, none of this matters until a system that supports proportional representation (such as MMP) is implemented

    • @nealrigga6969
      @nealrigga6969 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      After seeing how pathetic some of these smaller parties are like Reclaim, maybe we should just stick with the two parties

    • @celtic69
      @celtic69 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      England*

    • @useodyseeorbitchute9450
      @useodyseeorbitchute9450 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@nealrigga6969 Well, when think about it, especially with hindsight it opposing lockdowns may give them bragging rights...

  • @timgwallis
    @timgwallis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +802

    American Republicans get compared to British Conservatives, but Republicans and Reclaim sound way closer to each other

    • @frederickthegreat3912
      @frederickthegreat3912 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +175

      Republicans are basically far right at this point, the Conservatives are far less extreme overall (of course both parties have a range of different views within them, but you get the idea)

    • @pretty7995
      @pretty7995 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frederickthegreat3912 Lol republicans are nowhere near far right.

    • @swausgebouwen143
      @swausgebouwen143 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

      @@frederickthegreat3912''basically far right'' lmao

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, the conservatives are far right extreme. Sunak is full in on the racism and transphobia, and the rebels in the party keeps getting louder.

    • @Paul-bs5wl
      @Paul-bs5wl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@frederickthegreat3912 Friendly reminder that the Republican platform on the national scale is effectively the Democrat platform from 30 years ago. The leftist parties are the ones that have changed, but I guess if you don't pay attention you might be convinced otherwise.

  • @ML-ir5vo
    @ML-ir5vo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Labour have hardly been socially liberal, particularly on trans rights, to be fair.

  • @dutchmapping1
    @dutchmapping1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +666

    2:30 imagine being beaten by a TH-camr

    • @yusaki8064
      @yusaki8064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      I voted for that TH-camr. A much better choice for mayor.

    • @Oxijinn_
      @Oxijinn_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I knew I recognised the name Laurence Fox, I find it somewhat karmic that he lost to a TH-camr in kids sunglasses.

    • @MajesticLGBT
      @MajesticLGBT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yusaki8064based 🫡

    • @MajesticLGBT
      @MajesticLGBT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      @@Oxijinn_I love it. Fox is so big headed too. like you’d think losing to a TH-camr who’s not even trying to win, and also losing £10,000 would humble him. But no. He’s still at it. Still thinks he’s super popular with the “silent majority” he’s so annoying lol. All of this is just for his ego doesn’t care about anyone or anything.

    • @chesterdonnelly1212
      @chesterdonnelly1212 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Oxijinn_ Laurence Fox is now a TH-camr in sunglasses

  • @marionettekent
    @marionettekent 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    2:28 Losing to Niko is probably a sadder thing than losing the deposit

  • @t1metzger
    @t1metzger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    First past the post makes everyone except LAB CON virtually irrelevant. LAB CON could change this terrible system, but they hate each other LESS than the idea of opening up their duopoly to a new party/parties

    • @scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501
      @scarfholdgraphicsmedia9501 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a referendum on changing the system but people frightened into believing that this could usher in fringe parties. I say good. I believe that had UKIP gained seats, people would have been able to see how useless in power they are.
      In a way, through Brexit and Johnson's purge of moderate Tories, UKIP style Tories did get power and the result was, as we have seen, awful. Sadly, Farage and co have capitalised on this, using Tory failure as cover for their own policy failures.

    • @sfactory8253
      @sfactory8253 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      They would form a grand coalition if threatened. Unless of course the Tories get completely wi ped out at the next election

    • @dafyddroff8084
      @dafyddroff8084 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any party that wins an election has won their election on the back of FPTP so they have no incentive to change it to PR.

  • @bababababababa6124
    @bababababababa6124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +832

    Reclaim party is such an embarrassment that they were beaten by a TH-camr doing it for shits and giggles 💀

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Neo-nazis live for taking L's

    • @Paul-bs5wl
      @Paul-bs5wl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. In a shithole city with totally broken ethnic politics, a man opposing the rot with the entire media and political establishment against him managed to lose, big surprise.
      Even ignoring that, it is a more relevant reflection of how little people in London (probably under 25s) respect their role in their society that they voted for some guy they know off the internet who has no intention of taking his role seriously.

    • @hmishfiddy
      @hmishfiddy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Not surprised since the whole niko for mayor thing was extremely popular…
      Its not an embarrassment you just don’t understand politics bud

    • @bababababababa6124
      @bababababababa6124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

      @@hmishfiddy”bud” 🤓
      Imagine voting Reclaim 💀

    • @Rho507
      @Rho507 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@hmishfiddy it was popular but you know who wasn't? Lawrence Fox

  • @doxologist
    @doxologist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    I guess they're called "Reclaim" because they're still trying to "reclaim" their deposit

    • @RoyalLegend1000
      @RoyalLegend1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this is so real lol they lost to a yt who was just trolling (ok tbf he tried to make young people more intersed inn politics)

    • @BlueBird-wb6kb
      @BlueBird-wb6kb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're just a hater, Reclaim would help Britain.

    • @pewgarpolls
      @pewgarpolls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BlueBird-wb6kb nah, max fosh would

    • @idcgaming518
      @idcgaming518 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@pewgarpolls what about Niko?

    • @boozecruiser
      @boozecruiser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@BlueBird-wb6kb They'd help make a small number of awful people very rich at the cost of hurting British workers and harming our international reputation irrevocably

  • @third7715
    @third7715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +130

    Looking like green and reform will get around 25% of the vote and no more than a handful of seats between them. Democrazy.

    • @MatthewJBD
      @MatthewJBD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Same happened to UKIP a few elections ago.

    • @lenabo9929
      @lenabo9929 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      To suggest it is undemocratic is crazy. The system is very much democratic, it asks people in a smaller geographical district what they prefer and the candidate that has the plurality takes the seat. In enhances a two party system according to Duvergers law. It is a majoritarian system at hart, which means it result in more higher likelyhood of a government straight after election.
      I'm fine with the criticism of majoritarian systems. Id rather have more proportionality, like a mixed system. But to suggest it is less democratic than proportional is stupid. People need to understand the system, and understand that if they vote for a party that is polling poorly in their constituency is fine but dont get annoyed if they dont get elected you could of voted for a larger party and it would not of been wasted.
      But on to the issue of proportional system. They do have benefits to allow a more wider proportion of populations views to be taken into account. However, then you are very rarely voting for a party based on what policy they will implement and more if you agree with them on the whole. Because coalitions can take time to form and there is no guarantee to get the policy a proportion of society want. Additionally, people will then need to learn that the outcome of the system is also different. The largest party is not guaranteed to govern. Like in Poland, which for many in the UK would be perceived as unfair. I bring this point up because if we changed you would get conservatives winning elections then complaining why are they not in government.

    • @ShieldToad-mk2rp
      @ShieldToad-mk2rp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@lenabo9929I disagree

    • @sfactory8253
      @sfactory8253 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@lenabo9929 why is it no-one else uses it. Fptp has brought us disaster in the UK. Even Brexit Ref was decided with the UK basically half and half.

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MatthewJBDUKIPs best ever result was just over 12%.

  • @merrymachiavelli2041
    @merrymachiavelli2041 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I find it interesting to the extent to which transgender issues constitute a unique wedge social topic in British politics. It splits and left and centre in a way it really doesn't in the US, because the issue is often framed more as sex-based vs. gender-based rights than as social conservatives vs. social liberals. It also touches on areas like the NHS and what constitutes hate speech, which are also obviously very different.
    The contrast between British and American political debate over the same topic, driven by the same cultural shifts, says a lot about other ways British and American politics differ.

    • @Mom-rx5sw
      @Mom-rx5sw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The goverment telling you what "hate speech" constitutes is insane.

    • @martinholmes-ue9ko
      @martinholmes-ue9ko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most people do not care.

  • @joshuawells835
    @joshuawells835 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I've read that another difference between the SNP and Alba is that Alba is not just calling for Scottish Independence, but for a Scottish Republic with a president modeled after the President of Ireland.

    • @lewissmith350
      @lewissmith350 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So would you say alba is maybe to the left of the snp on some issues, probably they will merge like Jim sillars party, one day, to the snp again. Unless pr suits them otherwise.

    • @dairebulson7122
      @dairebulson7122 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wait, is that to suggest SNP proposes keeping the monarchy for an independent Scotland, or at least is open to the idea? (And thus, Alba, being explicitly republican, is opposed to)

    • @joshuawells835
      @joshuawells835 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@dairebulson7122 To be honest, I'm not entirely sure what kind of government the SNP desires for an independent Scotland. I have heard it described as repealing the 1703 Act of Union and having Charles III be King of England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland (Wales is part of the Kingdom of England)
      Edit-Upon further review, the SNP favors Scotland retaining the monarchy as a commonwealth realm, similar to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Jamaica (for now), etc...

    • @dglenday8705
      @dglenday8705 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joshuawells835 Thanks for looking into that. I'm in Scotland and was getting confused by the whole thing !

  • @nnkk7742
    @nnkk7742 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Crazy that the guy with 20 SA cases just slipped away. Either he's a prolific rapist that escapes justice or someone organized a political attack using the judiciary. Either way someone should be in prison.

    • @howtoappearincompletely9739
      @howtoappearincompletely9739 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      For none of the charges to stick, the allegations must have been particularly weak.

    • @BurningTNT
      @BurningTNT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@howtoappearincompletely9739 depends on the nature of the allegations really. SA allegations can be hard to prove given how likely it is to be X says one thing happened, Y says it didn’t, there were no witnesses to reinforce either side. Unless someone comes clean, has accomplices that do, or someone happens to witness it and choose to say something then it comes down to he-said she-said which isn’t strong enough for.a court to convict. 20 allegations is a lot, though the wider political ongoings means it’s worth assessing whose making them and what the given occurences are. Outside a political setting, that many allegations means they’re probably not the quite unpleasant even if they mever do anything illegal.

    • @BurningTNT
      @BurningTNT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      *are probably unpleasant to be around even if they never do anything illegal, is what the last sentence was supposed to say

    • @A_massive_wog
      @A_massive_wog 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BurningTNT And yet on the assault and breach of peace arguments he was found not guilty too.

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well given Sturgeon's record of association with criminals including her criminal husband who was in charge of the purse strings, it's safe to say those at the top of the SNP all smell funny.
      Salmon was lucky to get out before they crashed the ship.

  • @owenfitzgerald5928
    @owenfitzgerald5928 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

    Niko in a TLDR video

    • @slopernafti902
      @slopernafti902 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      NDL

    • @ASocialistTransGirl
      @ASocialistTransGirl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      letsgo

    • @zhongcena
      @zhongcena 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ASocialistTransGirl I've seen you before but can't remember where

    • @ASocialistTransGirl
      @ASocialistTransGirl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@zhongcena I am everywhere
      also in TLDR news’ comments a lot

  • @NoJusticeMTG
    @NoJusticeMTG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    For what it's worth - the WPGB endorsement camt from CPGB-ML, not CPGB (easy mistake to make)

    • @michaelthompson679
      @michaelthompson679 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      The peoples front of judea apparently endorsed them too

    • @ComradeLibertarian
      @ComradeLibertarian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@michaelthompson679 you mean the judean peoples front

    • @Sky-pg8jm
      @Sky-pg8jm 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ComradeLibertarian No it was the Popular Front

    • @_MrMoney
      @_MrMoney 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@Sky-pg8jmPEOPLE'S Front, the Popular Front are a bunch of splitters

    • @Mrjmaxted0291
      @Mrjmaxted0291 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The CPB actually. They sent a contingent down to support Galloway during the Rochdale by-election and ran positive coverage in the Morning Star. The CPGB-ML were originally in coalition with the Workers Party, and helped found it back in 2019. They later split due from the party due to an internal power struggle, which saw the Brars expel the sections that lead the WPB.

  • @diemasshawkins
    @diemasshawkins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Niko coming in fifth in the London Mayoral Election will never not be funny

    • @pewgarpolls
      @pewgarpolls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed

  • @Cantskatemcd
    @Cantskatemcd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The mental strength to talk so neutrally about Lawrence Fox is incredibly impressive

  • @50_Pence
    @50_Pence 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    PR NOW!

    • @lenabo9929
      @lenabo9929 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You want PR what version because it matters. Full proportionality, or more of a mixed system like Scotland uses. I support having more proportionality, however, we need to agree on the system between all parties. And reform needs to wider than that. England in particular needs to take devolution much more seriously. The whole of the UK should either be federalised or have devolution. Westminster has far too much power. The lords need overhaul unsure best root for that.

    • @jackmonaghan8477
      @jackmonaghan8477 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Electoral reform in general has been overdue for a while now. Unfortunately, neither of the two parties want it because that would mean the duopoly gets broken and they would have to start listening to the British public instead of their rich mates in the media, private sector and lobby groups. Hence why you'd have the Labour right and so-called "moderate" Tories doom-mongering about Reform UK getting seats (when in reality, they're more scared of the Greens and independent leftist parties) and the Tory hard right fearmongering about the "hard left" gaining seats (as demonstrated by Jacob Rees-Mogg's utter farce of a "case" against it).

    • @dafyddroff8084
      @dafyddroff8084 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lenabo9929100% agree

  • @LeafyDavid
    @LeafyDavid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    TUSC stand the most candidates out of all the alternatives left parties. Their omission here is disappointing.

    • @user-yf4gx9lw6c
      @user-yf4gx9lw6c 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TUSC is a great example but doesn’t have any elected MPs. For the sake of video length they’ve only focused on those that have representatives in parliament.

    • @Mrjmaxted0291
      @Mrjmaxted0291 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TUSC and the WPB have positive relations and observance of each other. With that said, TUSC have performed dismally up to this point, losing their deposits in contests up and down the country with their broad but ultimately rather shallow campaigns. It is actually rather fitting that TUSC have been omitted, as they're presently even more obscure that these other parties. There was a time when they could have been considered a contender in the socialist left wing space, but the WPB are now at this point on a similar footing to the Greens from a parliamentary standpoint, lifting them head and shoulders above any other fringe left wing effort.

    • @DeezN1892
      @DeezN1892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TUSC have performed horribly. Everyone needs to jump ship to the BWP, a party with an actual elected MP. It's the only hope for genuine left wing represenation in british parliment as so far there is none. just liberal noise.

    • @user-yf4gx9lw6c
      @user-yf4gx9lw6c 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DeezN1892 The Workers party are nothing without Galloway and will struggle for support if he loses his Rochdale seat.
      TUSC have fielded the 6th most local election candidates in the UK. How many have the Workers party put forward?

  • @NK-vd8xi
    @NK-vd8xi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Left wing economic but socially moderate/conservative seems to be a very untapped demographic. If George Galloway wasn't so polarising then that formula could be deadly for labour.

    • @thesmithersy
      @thesmithersy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      True. The majority of the UK is conservative socially but its the economics that usually cause the divisions.

    • @Gfynbcyiokbg8710
      @Gfynbcyiokbg8710 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Parties across Europe have seen a lot of success by tapping in on those voters (though they often go for far right socially)

    • @BlueBird-wb6kb
      @BlueBird-wb6kb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Left wing economic and conservative sounds amazing, I want a party like that for Australia though anti religious

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's just a shame he's backed by the Islamists.

    • @boozecruiser
      @boozecruiser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@BlueBird-wb6kb Finally, a party for kissless virgins

  • @joz6683
    @joz6683 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Plaid Cymru is the third largest political party in Wales, with 11 of 60 seats in the Senedd and 202 principal local authority councillors.

  • @ashg9023
    @ashg9023 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Gender reform has nothing to do with left or right wing, it sits on the progressive-traditionalist spectrum.

  • @Piat47
    @Piat47 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Calling them “fringe parties” is hilarious they believe basically the same things as the others

  • @Sheena1234ization
    @Sheena1234ization 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Workers party is the best bet for this election

    • @riazortho
      @riazortho 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ew

    • @theboraxbandit9563
      @theboraxbandit9563 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reform would be more of a tactical vote

    • @UKPatriotTV
      @UKPatriotTV 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nice joke

    • @skinwalker69420
      @skinwalker69420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Tankie party? You're insane man.

  • @uvabnormal
    @uvabnormal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    please allow the smaller parties to win seats and put an end to this 2 party, corrupt, monopoly system. I'm voting for the Green party, any party willing to tax the rich and nationalise all public services including water, energy, and NHS gets by vote. Labour and Conservatives are both funded by rich private equity firms, as long as they stay in power this country will become highly unequal third world country

    • @Monkey-fv2km
      @Monkey-fv2km 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      to be fair though, any party that gains significant power will be corrupted by corporate influence...if the greens were in power they would see themselves gradually become a variation on Con. and Lab. with slightly differing superficial policies.
      And having a PR system over FPTP wouldn't improve the corruption in itself, if other countries with such systems around the world are anything to go by.

    • @pewgarpolls
      @pewgarpolls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      NDL

    • @martinholmes-ue9ko
      @martinholmes-ue9ko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Please allow ....." ?

  • @allthenewsordeath5772
    @allthenewsordeath5772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The trouble with the UK system is that especially since Tony Blair, labor and the Tories have been effectively the same policies just at slightly different speeds regarding everything from immigration to taxation.
    The American system used to have this problem particularly under Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, however it has since fixed this issue as the Republicans and Democrats now our two very different brands of crazy, hopefully something similar can happen in Britain.

  • @burntheladder
    @burntheladder 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You cited a policy labour abandoned to claim they are socially liberal...

    • @alistairmonro
      @alistairmonro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Labour, and the Cons, don't know what they are anymore. Just depends which way the wind is blowing on that day. It's pathetic from them, and is for putting up with it. Tony Blair ruined UK politics.

    • @ThatOneGuy7550
      @ThatOneGuy7550 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol exactly these guys are morons

    • @boozecruiser
      @boozecruiser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@alistairmonro In what way do the Conservatives flip between socialist and right wing?

    • @alistairmonro
      @alistairmonro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@boozecruiser either you don't follow politics, you don't know what left vs right is, or you are stuck in the Tories are bastard's mentality. They are all the same. Tories have been known for rebranding Labour policy. It's one of the reasons Starmer won't say anything beyond "we plan to make things better". It's all a facade there are no real options, there is no democracy.

    • @sorbbae620
      @sorbbae620 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@boozecruiser well in 2017 they were saying that "being trans is not an illness" and said they were "determined to end homophobic and transphobic bullying" but 7 years later the transphobic bullying is coming directly from the leader of the party! im sure they will go back to the 2017 rhetoric the moment being hateful and scapegoating stops working

  • @shanekent4896
    @shanekent4896 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    When 1st past the post is still used. Britian is still a 2 party system.

    • @wenterinfaer1656
      @wenterinfaer1656 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      One-party system - totalitarian
      Two-party system - democracy

    • @gothicgolem2947
      @gothicgolem2947 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I would say two and a half given minority goverments

    • @Balibaliadashi
      @Balibaliadashi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wenterinfaer1656The best one party system is a two party system.

    • @gillespaling7039
      @gillespaling7039 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wenterinfaer1656South Africa has a one party system.

  • @oatdilemma6395
    @oatdilemma6395 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    More parties the better, Labour and the Tories have failed us too many times.

    • @kieranmilner4208
      @kieranmilner4208 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sadly if one doesn’t get enough votes the two fuckwit ones will stay on top it should of been a third party not 3 as it spreads out the votes too much

  • @マウリツィオ-g6e
    @マウリツィオ-g6e 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    What about the Loony party? Big omission!

  • @97Corvi
    @97Corvi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    1:30 wait, Isn't that the Max Fosh antagoist in the race for the Mayor of London ?!?!?!

  • @RichardFraser-y9t
    @RichardFraser-y9t 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You forgot the 'lets have another party party'

    • @W0lfbaneShikaisc00l
      @W0lfbaneShikaisc00l 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That sounds like a party Boris would get behind.

    • @RoyalLegend1000
      @RoyalLegend1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@W0lfbaneShikaisc00l lol

  • @aidygooner
    @aidygooner 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    NEVER FORGET when the NDL led by a TH-camr won more votes than Laurence Fox's Party despite more than half of NDL's fans being ineligible to vote which would've thrashed Reclaim even more. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @arankenrick7175
    @arankenrick7175 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    When talking about Politics please actually say what the opinions they were censured on, not just the topic they had an opinion on.

  • @socialistsolidarity
    @socialistsolidarity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Labour needs to be replaced by a 'real' left-wing party. Labour is not left anymore, I hasn't been for the past 14 years.

    • @RextheRebel
      @RextheRebel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Workers Party of Britain is the closest thing to a "real" left wing party. It's just extremely disappointing it's backed by the very ppl who need to be removed from British shores.

    • @aimansafwan1997
      @aimansafwan1997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@RextheRebel ok pro-genocide sadist.

  • @ganrimmonim
    @ganrimmonim 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +229

    So basically, these are vanity projects of grumpy old men.

    • @rhynoctapus
      @rhynoctapus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Welcome to politics

    • @fusionsub
      @fusionsub 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That's how political parties have been created and will continue to be created until the end of political parties as a concept

    • @howtoappearincompletely9739
      @howtoappearincompletely9739 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Though Fox isn't that old, that's a depressingly accurate description.

    • @Wackaz
      @Wackaz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      The Workers Party has a swiftly growing youth organisation actually.

    • @artrandy
      @artrandy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're from Scotland, then that ageist remark should be reported under the new hate law..........

  • @aktuellyattee8265
    @aktuellyattee8265 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every video with Ben looking confused in the thumbnail is automatically a great video.

  • @gammamaster1894
    @gammamaster1894 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the SDP is likely a more serious political force than Reclaim

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But aren't new.

  • @EdinburghPokemon
    @EdinburghPokemon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Weird to cite the Workers Party opposition to self-ID as an example of how they are more socially conservative than Labour, given that Labour also opposes self-ID, isn't it?

    • @Wackaz
      @Wackaz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The Workers Party is socially conservative insofar as they represent blue collar working class values: traditional family values, community, having our own industry, socialist patriotism, against liberal identity politics, against gender ideology, etc. A conservative socialism, if you will.

    • @Darkest_matter
      @Darkest_matter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Wackaz That sounds like a IDEAL world.

    • @lurmpfh0ne
      @lurmpfh0ne 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Darkest_matteryeah ideal for stupid people

    • @ronmastrio2798
      @ronmastrio2798 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Darkest_matter Yeah a national socialism

    • @EdinburghPokemon
      @EdinburghPokemon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Wackaz Oh right, so just a different economic approach to the usual right-wing politics.

  • @kwanlinus6999
    @kwanlinus6999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What TLDR fails to point out is that unlike most left-wing party in Britain, the WPGB is staunchly-unionist and is against regional autonomy. So basically, the WPGB is the closest thing Britain has to the CPSU

    • @elpito9326
      @elpito9326 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But the Bolsheviks created the different Soviet republics which had absolutely no autonomy before, other than whatever the feudal system granted them (and that was based on feudal posessions rather than culture).
      Without the USSR, it's likely that Belarusian, Kazakh and many other languages would either be extinct or in a far worse position than nowadays.

    • @kwanlinus6999
      @kwanlinus6999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elpito9326 Despite ethnic minorities given some right to manage their own republics, it didn't stop the central policy of Russification occuring in the non-Russian republics

  • @Top-Lip
    @Top-Lip 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's very easy to look at the UK and assume we have a two party system; except we don't, we have a one patry system where everyone suspiciously keeps voting for the same government and the opposition plays the role of it's own opposition.

  • @hollytalmage
    @hollytalmage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Dude it's crazy how Gender just breaks UK politics

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      It sadly makes perfect sense when you consider the history of feminism in the UK. While feminism outside of the UK (broadly) aligned itself with the queer theory movement and intersectional feminism, British feminism dove deep into so-called "gender critical" strands of the movement, to the point of allying with anti-abortion far right movements
      This broadly lead progressivism in Britain to lag behind in terms of trans rights

    • @wvvwwvwvv
      @wvvwwvwvv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 "While feminism outside of the UK (broadly) aligned itself with the queer theory movement" 🤣 Talk to the middle east, Asia and south America.

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@wvvwwvwvv middle eastern progressivism is very much queer friendly, it's just... Very very non-prevalent considering the various governments' stances
      Not particularly familiar with South American or Asian progressive movements so I won't comment on that

    • @Darkest_matter
      @Darkest_matter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 Anti-abortion is good bruh. it shows you actually are responsible. you can't always just fuck around..... sometimes, you gotta fuck around and find out.

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Darkest_matter you won't convince a woman with this argument lol
      If you want to ban abortion your target is either to reduce the amount of people having sex or to control women's bodies. Which, as targets, are respectively impossible/useless and abhorrent

  • @palindromee
    @palindromee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would love another one of these looking at even more of the smaller parties like SDP. You do such a good job of just telling all the info,

  • @bjiornbjiorn
    @bjiornbjiorn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    A slight problem for your narrative here, Alex Salmond didn't found Alba: it was founded by Laurie Flynn. Alec was just its first leader.

    • @dkoda840
      @dkoda840 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That seems like a mistake not a “problem in a narrative.”

    • @bjiornbjiorn
      @bjiornbjiorn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@dkoda840 Aye, it's a mistake but one that fundamentally changes the character of the discussion and therefore creates a false narrative. They're arguing that the Alba party was founded as a result of the personal fallout between Salmond and Sturgeon (Fish fight!). However, that ignores the fact that the Alba party was actually formed due to a broader feeling of dissatisfaction with the SNP's independence strategy and a lack of accountability within the leadership team.

    • @dkoda840
      @dkoda840 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bjiornbjiorn I replied to this comment before that section came up I watched the full video and yea I agree it does mess with the narrative. Granted I haven’t looked into the reason Laurie Flynn started the party so it could be a similar reason but yea this mistake does change the discussion.

  • @neoyuls
    @neoyuls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "as a result, he lost his 10,000 election deposit" is cold

  • @Kelfaless1
    @Kelfaless1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    Mainstream parties: “Who are you?”
    Fringe parties: “I am you but even more transphobic”

    • @alistairmonro
      @alistairmonro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Like the rest of the population then?

    • @ronmastrio2798
      @ronmastrio2798 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Lab Tory Uniparty loves troons.

    • @elpito9326
      @elpito9326 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      That's what pains me the most about Galloway and his party tbh...

    • @alistairmonro
      @alistairmonro 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elpito9326 trans and gays have some very strange allegiances. Mostly with people that hate you. It's bizarre.

    • @cheekypop
      @cheekypop 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@elpito9326because he's against self-harm?

  • @jorgeadonay-ke1xu
    @jorgeadonay-ke1xu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi i'm a native Spanish speaker from Honduras 🇭🇳 and I am here just to make native English-speaker friends who want to practice their spanish but also who want to help to me to improve my English which is kind of Good. I still have problems with grammar in English but i am willing to help with any doubt about Spanish. Hope i can make friends of any English accent. Thank you 😊

  • @IdunRedstone
    @IdunRedstone 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    It's so funny seeing the mayor election where Niko Omilana (look up on youtube if you don't know him) beat Laurence Fox

    • @garywhapples7172
      @garywhapples7172 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Funny seeing London falling to its knees hahaha

    • @Bagofnowt
      @Bagofnowt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@garywhapples7172 I'd be more worried about London if they thought Laurence Fox spoke any sense

    • @sfactory8253
      @sfactory8253 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was way below Count Binface

    • @jamesormondroyd1009
      @jamesormondroyd1009 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@garywhapples7172except London and the south east are the only net contributors to the exchequer, so if you don’t live in London then London is effectively subsidising your local services

    • @garywhapples7172
      @garywhapples7172 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesormondroyd1009 some boroughs of London ie Newham spend 9 times more than they contribute. (look it up) I live just outside of London and I can say with certainty that we're huge contributors, probably funding places like Newham, Tower hamlets etc

  • @mehmehmeh360
    @mehmehmeh360 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    when the two main parties are so mediocre and controlled, its no wonder that other "fringe" parties tend to pop up.

  • @Rocopherus
    @Rocopherus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    big up the NDL

    • @JasonAtlas
      @JasonAtlas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Only good party these days.

    • @humanwhodoesstuffindeed
      @humanwhodoesstuffindeed 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      niko could run the uk better than our past 5 prime ministers

  • @luxushauseragency
    @luxushauseragency 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The video on Britain's New Fringe Parties gives us a good look at the UK's political scene. But, looking ahead, the big question is how the UK can create a stable and growing future. With big changes coming from AI technology, central bank digital currencies and the escalating tensions in conflict zones, every political party faces tough challenges.
    Stability, a clear plan, and agreement among MPs on the UK's direction are key. We need to learn from the Brexit mess and not expect quick fixes for deep-rooted problems. Also, the media's role is crucial. Right now, they're pushing the idea that the Labour Party will be the next government because of their lead in polls. But in reality, nothing is guaranteed in politics.
    In short, the UK needs to focus on long-term solutions and be careful with how the media shapes our view of politics.

  • @hairyhaggis7431
    @hairyhaggis7431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    Three parties that are personality cults

    • @shamanahaboolist
      @shamanahaboolist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      lol as if any of the other parties are any different. It's politics. Plus the workers party isn't by any objective standard. Their manifesto is the most intelligent on offer.

    • @satoshikamiya4636
      @satoshikamiya4636 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shamanahaboolist nah G... check yourself. being anti EU and anti NATO is such a big turnoff, since obviously brexit was bad and nato is beneficial to our national security. If i had to sacrifice my life to stop the workers party being in office, I'd do it because of how dangerous they would be. a socialist workers party that doesn't want to do suicidal things would be much more appropriate.

    • @BritishRepublicsn
      @BritishRepublicsn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@shamanahaboolistthe difference between these 3 parties and the major ones are that these 3 are known primarily for one person, while, say, Labour is known more for..other things
      Actually I'm going to stop because idk what I'm trying to say

    • @shamanahaboolist
      @shamanahaboolist 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@BritishRepublicsn lol
      Fair enough bud. Yeah... Just sit back and enjoy the desperation involved in making your primary criticism of a politician being that people like their personality. 😂

    • @lukefleetwood7958
      @lukefleetwood7958 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shamanahaboolist The Worker's party's manifesto is intelligent XD. That's a take. They are a party of fifth columnists who want to be friends with all our enemies like Russia and Palestine while abandoning the best defensive alliance in the world while pandering to the backwards minority of Muslims.

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's fascinating reading the comments and seeing just how ignorant a lot of the people who watch these videos are of alternative political views.

  • @Shlepp
    @Shlepp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Even though these three look pretty bad, I still think it’s good to have more competition other than the two main parties.

    • @THTB_lol
      @THTB_lol 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      yea, we got racist conservatives, racist labour, and racist snp

    • @Shlepp
      @Shlepp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@THTB_lol they didn’t seem racist. Unless you’re one of those people who consider criticism or being against illegal immigration as being “racist”

    • @THTB_lol
      @THTB_lol 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Shlepp nice dogwhistle

    • @Shlepp
      @Shlepp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@THTB_lol I’d take that as a yes then. Im sorry for you

    • @THTB_lol
      @THTB_lol 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Shlepp your dogwhistle is broken and can now be heard as racism by everyone

  • @iGamezRo
    @iGamezRo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Alba also said they specifically want a republican Scotland. The SNP isn't too sure. Nicola Sturgeon is a convinced monarchist, for example. Humza Yousaf may lean a bit republican because at a football game between Scotland and England, when English fans sang "God Save the King", some Scots booed, with Yousaf, who was present, smugging.

  • @Kaizen917
    @Kaizen917 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Reminds me of countries that segregate into one-policy fringe parties that just erode the whole system to the point that people either stop caring about politics (to make matters even worse) or, even if they did, couldnt figure out who stands for what.

  • @Hsalf904
    @Hsalf904 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don’t know much about British politics but I find it hard to believe the workers party is socially conservative

    • @Jack-Oates
      @Jack-Oates 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It is. Its anti-immigration, anti-trans rights, its leadership had expressed some homophobic views, there anti-Net zero, and very against 'wokeness'.
      There's other party's that are equally left-wing economically but soically liberal though like the TUSC.

    • @Hsalf904
      @Hsalf904 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Jack-Oates Cringe

    • @cg_plays
      @cg_plays 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Hsalf904what do you mean cringe? He is explaining different parties beliefs. Are you 5 years old or something

    • @MemekingJag
      @MemekingJag 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The mainstream socialist party in the UK is the Labour party, which have notably taken increasingly progressive views socially. A lot of working class families hold traditional views and feelings, especially for the Muslim population Galloway largely dominates. Compared to the other mainstream parties in the UK, the Workers party is socially conservative.

  • @creatoruser736
    @creatoruser736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    2:34 Why do you use a graphic of US dollars when talking about British pounds?

  • @braziliantsar
    @braziliantsar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The workers party reminds me of the old brazilian workers party. Stood for more "socially conservative" ideas till the 90's

  • @AndrewRTurvey
    @AndrewRTurvey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Remarkable that all three of these parties are socially conservative

    • @stephengray1344
      @stephengray1344 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's not particularly surprising. The internet has basically forced American culture war issues onto the political agenda here, moving the focus away from bread-and-butter issues. And almost all of the mainstream parties are on one side of those issues, leaving social conservatism as the obvious gap to fill. The only mainstream party that is clearly socially conservative is the DUP. The Conservatives are socially conservative on some issues, but have managed to give their base the impression that they are only paying lip-service to social conservatism on those issues.
      That said, these parties are quite difficult .Galloway isn't playing to the large proportion of the population who are left-wing on economics but socially conservative, he's playing specifically to the Muslim vote. Salmond's party is largely a vanity project, but reflects the fact that the SNP vote is all over the place on issues other than independence. And Reclaim are basically just a particularly prominent UKIP splinter group.

    • @PiousMoltar
      @PiousMoltar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They wouldn't have been considered so 20 years ago...

    • @NotEvenOneShit
      @NotEvenOneShit 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@PiousMoltar I hate to be the one that points it out but yeah... that's how conservatism tends to go. 20 years ago gay marriage had only been legal for a year and there was still considerable opposition to it. Remaining progressive requires that you adapt to new information and listen to new points of view. If Your attitude would be more at home in an older and more conservative world then that attitude is by definition leaning towards conservatism. in 1924 you could have said "20 years ago i wouldn't have been seen as socially conservative to support slave ownership." Times arrow keeps marching on and it is important to allow progress to happen in spite of the fact you won't always be immediately comfortable with it. You will have concerns. it will seem new and strange and scary. You work through that and try to make life better for those who haven't had a chance to be heard. Change is necessary and fundamentaly benefits social mobility for everyone. Not all that is new will work out but it is worth hearing out those new ideas and challenging old ideas.

    • @boozecruiser
      @boozecruiser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@PiousMoltar They would have. The overton window has moved right and the "mainstream" right wing parties are more extreme. The mainstream "left wing" parties are holding steady or have even shifted rightwards since the 80s

    • @TrumpforPalestine2024
      @TrumpforPalestine2024 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Since when were communists conservative?

  • @JulieTasker
    @JulieTasker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Standing as a candidate shouldn’t need any payments so that each citizen may stand in any election that they’re eligible for.

  • @reheyesd8666
    @reheyesd8666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Defo a time for change
    No labour and no Tories.

    • @jakel8627
      @jakel8627 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      You're good at saying what you don't want. But when given the opportunity to govern, you make a mess of it.

    • @WhichDoctor1
      @WhichDoctor1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      We need proportional representation first. Otherwise even if both big parties are somehow brought down they will just be replaced by two new equally big parties fighting to win over middle ground voters and enacting policies for their millionaire funders. That's just the outcome our electoral system is set up to produce. If you want change you have to change the rules of the game, not just replace the playing pieces

    • @W0lfbaneShikaisc00l
      @W0lfbaneShikaisc00l 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Given the options: I much rather be governed by a party with SOME experience rather than none.
      This is like giving the responsibility to a 5 year old and being shocked that they left the oven on.

  • @nathangamble125
    @nathangamble125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Reclaim: Reform, but conspiracy theorists
    Workers: Labour, but anti-Israel
    Alba: SNP, but without gender pandering

  • @RichardFraser-y9t
    @RichardFraser-y9t 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lol, if you cant do your paperwork then you dont get to be mayor

  • @DanielGalimidi
    @DanielGalimidi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You know a party is fringe when the TLDR News video about it has a photo of the host making a funny face that screams "Why are we even talking about this?", rather than a photo of any of the parties' leaders.

  • @user-op8fg3ny3j
    @user-op8fg3ny3j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    4:16 The US wants to desperately extradite Julian Assange, what's the conspiracy?

    • @thetreelander7378
      @thetreelander7378 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      the people who run the channel are left wing so they chuck that word around like its a tennis ball for a dog.

    • @bjiornbjiorn
      @bjiornbjiorn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@thetreelander7378 Just to be clear, the video doesn't use the word conspiracy when talking about Galloway: that's the OP's word choice.

    • @bjiornbjiorn
      @bjiornbjiorn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If there was any conspiracy theory around Assange it was that the sexual assault charges in Sweden had been invented so that he would be arrested and then subsequently extradited to the USA. Now, I don't think anyone would dispute that that is what would probably happen, especially given the USA's refusal to rule out extraditing Assange from Sweden at the time. However I think it crosses the line when you argue that the sexual assault charges were deliberately fabricated without any real evidence or a court case. If anything, at the time, I was angry with the USA because, by refusing to rule out extradition, they were not only denying Assange the opportunity to try and clear his name, which he said he wanted to do at the time, but they also effectively denied his accusers their opportunity to seek justice in court.

    • @thetreelander7378
      @thetreelander7378 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@bjiornbjiorn yeah i know that but this channel chucks it about a bit to much for it to be used by its actual meaning.
      call me cynical.

    • @Birthdayboytablet
      @Birthdayboytablet หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@thetreelander7378You're literally describing criticism of a left wing party as left wing bias. Powerful mind.

  • @sunray83b
    @sunray83b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You forgot to mention Green party's stance in Scotland.
    Scotland has a problem in that It has many Labour run councils with little to no scrutiny, who blame SNP & Green Party, who in turn blame Westminster, who in turn blame Brexit, Covid, Ukraine etc.

  • @cneofficial3958
    @cneofficial3958 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Everytime I watch content about the UK, I have to remind myself that the US has our colors inverted, blue= liberal, red= conservative

    • @ethanfarmisa1439
      @ethanfarmisa1439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Red has been the colour of left wing movements globally for a while

    • @cneofficial3958
      @cneofficial3958 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ethanfarmisa1439 yeah it’s just the opposite in the US which always throughs me off.

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is no left wing in the US. The dems world be on the right of the Tory party

    • @RoyalLegend1000
      @RoyalLegend1000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cneofficial3958 you guys used to have red/republicans for liberal, before the great switch

    • @martinholmes-ue9ko
      @martinholmes-ue9ko 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ?

  • @mylo7400
    @mylo7400 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think it would be more accurate to place economic and social policies on separate spectrums. Your current graphic is incapable of representing a socially conservative economically leftwing party, like the Social Democratic Party.

  • @UKcuber
    @UKcuber 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You missed the SDP. They are contesting about 100 seats at the next election.

    • @MichaelGGarry
      @MichaelGGarry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They aren't new.

  • @blisseyran-dom6822
    @blisseyran-dom6822 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't see any of these parties winning a single seat between them.

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’d be surprised if Galloway even bothers standing in Rochdale at the election. He has form of wining by-elections and running away when it’s no longer a protest vote

  • @yusaki8064
    @yusaki8064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    2:29 NDL RISE UP!!!

  • @corpclarke
    @corpclarke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "It's very easy to look at the UK and assume we have a two party system." Only if you've been absolutely paying no attention whatsoever 🤣 in the last 15 years we've have one formal coalition government, one confidence and supply government, a small party running Scotland all that time, a minor party winning every EU Parliament election in the UK, and a minor party blocking May's Brexit deal. What a way to open the video 😅

  • @charlie7466
    @charlie7466 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    2:28 Niko lmao

  • @Jnthnpg
    @Jnthnpg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The gender/trans debate isn’t left vs right. Plenty of left wing parties are opposed to reforms and plenty of right wing folk are fine with the reform. It’s a bit off to say that Alba is “right wing” on issues to the SNP because they oppose that legislation.

  • @rocketrakkor9424
    @rocketrakkor9424 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'd also like to mention the Transform party, if anyone is interested in an actual left wing option

    • @The_Midnight_Bear
      @The_Midnight_Bear 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eh, Transform is just another iteration of people thinking they are gonna the ones to unify the constantly collapsing and merging ecosystem of the fringe far-left no one cares about.

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Looks interesting. Main thing now is getting the tories out though.

    • @rocketrakkor9424
      @rocketrakkor9424 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MiningForPies yeah Transform definitely still needs more time to grow before making any real dents

  • @mndrew1
    @mndrew1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That's a lot of 'controversial' statements and positions attributed to Galloway with absolutely no detail about which direction he actually took on those issues. From this breakdown he could be anything from a raging antisemite to a mild anti-genocide protester.

    • @PiousMoltar
      @PiousMoltar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think they made it pretty clear where he stands on that front.
      Had to pause the video to see what was so "controversial" that he said about Julian Assange though.

  • @user-op8fg3ny3j
    @user-op8fg3ny3j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    4:06 What was the comment made about Iraq exactly?

    • @DaDARKPass
      @DaDARKPass 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Galloway claimed Saddam Hussein was "fighting the good fight" or something like that.

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability, and I want you to know that we are with you, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-nasr, hatta al-Quds [until victory, until Jerusalem].
      Galloway is a really nasty piece of work.

    • @kwanlinus6999
      @kwanlinus6999 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@MiningForPies Galloway is basically the orthodox British tankie whose greatest idol is Joseph Stalin

  • @Justin-ee1mv
    @Justin-ee1mv 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:29 I can’t American style Republican party but Uk edition lost to a TH-cam

  • @isabelstokes4042
    @isabelstokes4042 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If Galloway is pro-Muslim then I'm anti-George Galloway.

    • @TheZett
      @TheZett 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Based

    • @TheWaveGoodbye-Music
      @TheWaveGoodbye-Music 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Deport racists to rawanda

    • @k.umquat8604
      @k.umquat8604 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most muslims aren't evil. And I'm an apostate

  • @ballenboy
    @ballenboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there any plans for Britain changing its first past the post system? Otherwise any smaller parties have no chance.

    • @pewgarpolls
      @pewgarpolls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the big parties crushed that

  • @jamie59685
    @jamie59685 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Its a sad state of affairs when believing that men are men and women are women is considered right wing.

  • @archieloughlin2670
    @archieloughlin2670 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing nikos image there is amzing

  • @sladetuner8661
    @sladetuner8661 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    George Galloway is a nut

    • @DeezN1892
      @DeezN1892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Galloway is pro human

    • @sladetuner8661
      @sladetuner8661 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it benefit’s his political causes, just saying

    • @fiyum333
      @fiyum333 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@DeezN1892 >anti-NATO and anti-EU
      >"pro-human"

    • @DeezN1892
      @DeezN1892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fiyum333 member states in the EU and especially NATO have orchestrated the most awful atrocities in the history of the entire planet across the 20th century
      The proxy wars, overthrowing elected governments, electing the fash in South America by sponsoring assassinations. God it’s so awful. Either you’re educated on it or you better get educated
      These cartels don’t like you. Why are you loyal to them?

    • @DeezN1892
      @DeezN1892 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fiyum333 hes anti EU because of the literal neo-imperialism they orchestrate across Africa.
      You have been duped by claims of “diversity and inclusion” whilst multi-national European companies have kids in Africa enslaved in gold mines

  • @user-op6mp2gl3r
    @user-op6mp2gl3r 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    small note, Ali didn't have the whip withdrawn bc he's not an MP he was suspended from the party

  • @yousefbhacker8160
    @yousefbhacker8160 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    6:30 it's disingenuous to call opposition to trans ideology "right wing". That's proven by the Workers Party and Alba, just as you say in this video. It's perfectly reasonable to be left of centre and oppose that ideology as most rational people in this country do.

  • @RTWuk
    @RTWuk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why have so many commentators adopted the American 'mayORal' and 'elecTORal'? It's bad enough that everyone now says 'REEsearch' (rather than 'mare-al', 'elECtoral' and 'ri-search').

    • @pewgarpolls
      @pewgarpolls 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i see more comments on niko omilano

  • @apz202
    @apz202 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What about the Heritage party run by David Kurten .

  • @pip6142
    @pip6142 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The net zero referendum wouldnt be left wing. Its specifically a referendum on the topic due to the party denying climate change.
    In this (and many other aspects) the party is even more regressive than even the Tories

  • @wwanimator
    @wwanimator 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Guys check out our fringe political parties, we’ve got:
    The racist
    The racist
    The racist

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The racist
      The racist and also a TERF
      The racist

    • @prolarka
      @prolarka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good. Just like the population.

    • @THTB_lol
      @THTB_lol 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      its more like racist tories, racist labour, racist snp

    • @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303
      @camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@THTB_lol the Tories are already the racist Tories

    • @THTB_lol
      @THTB_lol 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@camillaquelladegliaggettiv4303 but somehow reclaim are more racist

  • @ash_11117
    @ash_11117 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    George Galloway lost his seat

  • @thejimmydanly
    @thejimmydanly 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Worker's Party just sounds like someone wanted to create a party with the objectively worst policies

  • @ambivvvvvvvvvalence
    @ambivvvvvvvvvalence 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Weird representation of galloway there. You know his tweet was not anti semetic. Tf you become?

  • @RockMusicEnjoyer
    @RockMusicEnjoyer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Parties are best described not as left or right, but as socially left/right and economically left/right. The nazis, for example, were economically left wing, but socially, couldn't be further right. Labour and the Conservatives barely differ on social policy these days, both being near the centre, but Labour is still further left economically.

  • @oddmott7653
    @oddmott7653 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As Brits, I'd be interested in hearing your opinions on joke candidates (like Lord Buckethead (assuming he's still kicking around :P))

  • @RealOGfikey
    @RealOGfikey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Whoever wins the next GE, we lose.
    It is said that a vote for anyone other than Labour is splitting the vote in the tories' favour but that's flawed thinking, because they're both tory parties. So in effect, it's actually a one-party state.
    If you're anti-tory, voting for either of them is the wasted vote in question.

    • @NikitaBenCarter
      @NikitaBenCarter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not if the Lib-Dems are the second biggest party after the Tories in the constituency.

    • @RealOGfikey
      @RealOGfikey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@NikitaBenCarter But how many constituencies do they happen to be the second biggest party of?

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Labour are nothing like the tories. That’s the ramblings of the insane.

    • @RealOGfikey
      @RealOGfikey 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MiningForPies How do you figure that seeing as they are carbon copying their policies?

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RealOGfikey they’re not though. Why are you lying?

  • @mcswordfish
    @mcswordfish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I please urge you to learn how to pronounce Alba before your next video mentioning them. Alba is the Gaelic name for Scotland and it hurts our ears to hear it mispronounced (though not helped by the fact that half the knuckle-draggers in that party cannae pronounce it either)

  • @Sheena1234ization
    @Sheena1234ization 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Fringe parties" is a pretty anti democatic term

  • @ThatTallGuy0
    @ThatTallGuy0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outdated because the tories arnt included as a fringe party