In my large but narrow boat feet (UK 13.5/US 14 in these two) the Rebel v4 is very very wide. Hard to imagine what the actual wide one might be like. Oddly though I did find the Mach 6 wasn't a great fit either and first time got a blister on side of my big toe although was OK on later runs. I think both are decent shoes but personally I don't really get on that well either with the relatively low drop. Quite a lot of shoes in this lightweight non plated shoe category with also SL2 and now Peg Plus. Then ones like Noosa Tri which I don't have and always think the Endorphin Speed have similar use cases.
Yes, well remember your video on it. Not surprised they fit your foot well and much better than the Rebel. For me both are not ideal. I do get on well with the wide fit of the Rebel but it is too short and that has caused me some problems as well. I rarely(if ever) have mentioned the Drop in videos, mainly because I feel like it doesn' t affect me much. I guess I prefer lower drops because as a forefoot striker it makes the heel feel a bit less prominent. But really is not a deciding metric for me when choosing a shoe... Yes, lots of competition in this area now. I' ll definitely try either the SL2 or Pegasus Plus soon. Actually been running in this Mach 6 a lot this week just to kill it off, and make space for one of those:)
@@robin29991 whoops sorry - just corrected my Mach 6 comment - "wasn't a great fit". TBH best fit of late for me has been the Peg 41 - partly as been using replacement arch support insoles on some walk/runs and these other ones, not surprisingly, aren't so good for that. Or rather would kind of defeat the purpose of a light shoe making it a lot heavier. Noosa Tri and also one like the Kinvara never really seemed to have any appeal. At the moment nursing an injury I more looking to "comfortable" shoes for short runs and/or run/walk so whilst been good to try these "lightweight" ones they aren't "essential" to me right now.
@@TimGrose Ah, okay. Makes more sense now as you had mentioned the blister haha! Can' t go wrong with the good old Pegasus. The classic daily trainers surely have a little more stability as well compared to these with the soft foams and stripped back uppers?
@@robin29991 yeah and I think horses for courses is always a good thing to remember. Some days, when I think about it, I don't need a "light" shoe to do a run when don't really care about the exact pace am doing. Once I do pull in the laces a lot, the Rebel v4 was not bad TBF but always thought it was about 1cm wider for me than it needed to be so could have been lighter still. I might give them another go when feel better able to.
In my large but narrow boat feet (UK 13.5/US 14 in these two) the Rebel v4 is very very wide. Hard to imagine what the actual wide one might be like. Oddly though I did find the Mach 6 wasn't a great fit either and first time got a blister on side of my big toe although was OK on later runs. I think both are decent shoes but personally I don't really get on that well either with the relatively low drop. Quite a lot of shoes in this lightweight non plated shoe category with also SL2 and now Peg Plus. Then ones like Noosa Tri which I don't have and always think the Endorphin Speed have similar use cases.
Yes, well remember your video on it. Not surprised they fit your foot well and much better than the Rebel. For me both are not ideal. I do get on well with the wide fit of the Rebel but it is too short and that has caused me some problems as well.
I rarely(if ever) have mentioned the Drop in videos, mainly because I feel like it doesn' t affect me much. I guess I prefer lower drops because as a forefoot striker it makes the heel feel a bit less prominent. But really is not a deciding metric for me when choosing a shoe...
Yes, lots of competition in this area now. I' ll definitely try either the SL2 or Pegasus Plus soon. Actually been running in this Mach 6 a lot this week just to kill it off, and make space for one of those:)
Andy seems to love the Noosa but I don' t know if I could live with the bizarre colorways lol
@@robin29991 whoops sorry - just corrected my Mach 6 comment - "wasn't a great fit". TBH best fit of late for me has been the Peg 41 - partly as been using replacement arch support insoles on some walk/runs and these other ones, not surprisingly, aren't so good for that. Or rather would kind of defeat the purpose of a light shoe making it a lot heavier. Noosa Tri and also one like the Kinvara never really seemed to have any appeal. At the moment nursing an injury I more looking to "comfortable" shoes for short runs and/or run/walk so whilst been good to try these "lightweight" ones they aren't "essential" to me right now.
@@TimGrose Ah, okay. Makes more sense now as you had mentioned the blister haha!
Can' t go wrong with the good old Pegasus.
The classic daily trainers surely have a little more stability as well compared to these with the soft foams and stripped back uppers?
@@robin29991 yeah and I think horses for courses is always a good thing to remember. Some days, when I think about it, I don't need a "light" shoe to do a run when don't really care about the exact pace am doing. Once I do pull in the laces a lot, the Rebel v4 was not bad TBF but always thought it was about 1cm wider for me than it needed to be so could have been lighter still. I might give them another go when feel better able to.
For the Hoka you have 30 days to send them back and pick the wide version.
@@alb.1911 Maybe, but when I bought this shoe back in March there was actually no wide version:)