@@RaijinRift Thanks man, I'm just stating I'm too trash for tier list to matter, it really only matters for pros and even then this game is pretty dang balanced. I know getting to Master is an accomplishment no matter what people say online.
@TheGaara802 well not entirely sometimes pro tierlists are different than other because of the ppl that play the characters to the full extent or capacity change the look of where they are, you are entitled to your opinion and can have friendly discussion with others on why or why not they think the character is objectively stronger in there opinion or not. You aren't shit for having your own thoughts in a moment regardless for where you are in master
@TheGaara802 for example like Japan before this patch had put gief as top 3 or top 1 and so did punk on multiple occasions prob cause of snake eyes and Kobayan, and they didn't have cammy or rashid in their top 5 besides punk. I play rashid and have since release and I think his is top 3, there are super polarizing ideas which make making your own thoughts on strengths pretty fun in discussion if the other person isn't a dick about it😭 which sadly there are alot ppl that will nuh uh at you for thinking barely different
Im a bit disappointed in the commentary in grand finals. Kevin was playing out of his mind especially with his reactions but the commentators never gave him any props and constantly chalked it down to Terry being bad in some way. This is coming from a huge punk fan too
@@Hermelin69 Both? He finishes a close 3-2 matchup with Noah with a match that had extreme lag, then spends the next hour and a half streaming. (tired) He then doesn't warm up, then plays Dual.(cold.) Dual played out of his mind, but you can't look at that performance and say Punk was on. Punk vs Dual is a matchup where the median score is 3-1 Punk. Punk wins the vast majority of the matches. You don't go from getting demolished earlier in the day, 3-0, not change up strategies, then 6-1 the person in grands, especially when that person beats you the overwhelming amount of time. So either. 1.) Is Dual Kevin in the span of 2 hours suddenly improved his neutral so much, and adapted to the matchup so strongly, he can now be in contention for having the best neutral in the FGC. In 3 Hours. or 2.) Punk(the guy with the reputation I just descirbed), the guy who normally beats Dual Kevin the vast majority of the time, he normally destroys him on the ground, in the neutral, just played tired and cold.
The CA version Terry doesn't do a rising tackle, he just does a powered up superman punch for the most part, and ends in the buster wolf blast. He never goes upside down in the CA.
@machsimillian14 I was in the middle of typing exactly what you said, but then decided to check to see if anyone else said it first. And you said it better than I would have! Thank you!
1:39:00 Look, JWong may be a legend, but don't let that man gaslight you. The only reason he heard "Sunday" is because he's played so much Marvel his mind has been playing tricks on him.
Hmmm a KOF 15 Terry that has Raw Damage compared in Proportion to SF6 Ryu and has range but lacks the normals to convert damage from a light attack unless you're very close or SF6 Terry who has better utility normals with less range and moderate damage, but loses to people who outreach him, though is more well rounded overall. I'd take SF6 Terry any day, KOF 15 might have the TOD and 50 percent single meter combos but he has JACK for tools to connect them, SF6 Terry may be too honest but he has the tools to make it to tournament finals depending on the skill of the player using him. Though Buster Ignition >> Rising Fang/Sunday's Best (by The Wazzler) The animation is more modest and the latter feels way too Anime for my taste.
I wouldn't say he's got jack for tools in KOF15 when it comes to normals. His forward light punch is a great poke and special cancellable, his far heavy kick is an incredible poke, Rising Upper is sorely missed here. Overall though I would agree, SF6 Terry feels like he's got more room to breathe with six buttons. My only real complaint is that besides power dunk, I haven't really seen anyone make good use of his target combos. It's pretty early though, time will tell. Also, yeah, Rising Fang pretty good, but Buster Ignition is beautiful.
@@LoganEncinas-u7y in SF6 he has two overheads which gives him a better mixup, in 15, even his broken launch version's dumb unreactable ex crackshot overhead can't convert into anything. Funny enough we can do the level 1 max mode combo from kof 14 as EX charge wall bounces (as it did in 14, as opposed to crumple in 15) and his ex crack shoot ground bounces when catching people airborne (ground bounce like in 14) but the bounce in sf6 is lower as only a dp can follow, in 14 we can still insert an A burn knuckle into buster wolf, if we can only hit with a knuckle we can cancel it into a level 2 geyser to get the same almost exact combo, and for all KOF 14 Terry's flaws, one thing he does have is an extremely big ass damage Still I would trade the Drive rush low mediums into Fierce first hit into power charge shennanigans to get the crumple charge, burn knuckle level 2 geyser and climax 90 percent :p
@@josephwiard6695 1. He won one like a few weeks ago. 2. Du and Punk beat him repeatedly more times than he beats them. They are the most dominant NA players by a mile.
Dual Kevin got Rashid looking like a Tron Legacy Foot Locker employee
Watching Riddles play Terry as if he's still playing in Smash is truly a treat!
I hear Rising Fang pretty darn clearly. Sorry, Justin.
Idgaf if he's high tier or not Terry is fun as hell to use. I'm to trash for it to matter anyway. I'm a low master level player 1400-1500 MR
Don't call yourself trash tho you're fine man
@@RaijinRift Thanks man, I'm just stating I'm too trash for tier list to matter, it really only matters for pros and even then this game is pretty dang balanced. I know getting to Master is an accomplishment no matter what people say online.
@TheGaara802 well not entirely sometimes pro tierlists are different than other because of the ppl that play the characters to the full extent or capacity change the look of where they are, you are entitled to your opinion and can have friendly discussion with others on why or why not they think the character is objectively stronger in there opinion or not. You aren't shit for having your own thoughts in a moment regardless for where you are in master
@TheGaara802 for example like Japan before this patch had put gief as top 3 or top 1 and so did punk on multiple occasions prob cause of snake eyes and Kobayan, and they didn't have cammy or rashid in their top 5 besides punk. I play rashid and have since release and I think his is top 3, there are super polarizing ideas which make making your own thoughts on strengths pretty fun in discussion if the other person isn't a dick about it😭 which sadly there are alot ppl that will nuh uh at you for thinking barely different
Don’t buff the universally-agreed upon low tier characters who have been bad since day one.. buff Luke and JP. Genius.
Capcoms backwards ass way of thinking at its finest lol
Or don't nerf the universally-agreed strong top tier characters that hasn't gotten barely touch yet...no nerfs for Rashid, Ken & Cammy. Brilliant!
Somehow, JP returned
Did you hear the balance changes? JP and Luke have been buffed
that anti air buff was too much bro
Finally, he's been nerfed way too hard
@kingofdragons7 He was still better than most of the cast, you guys aren't real 😭
@@NRobbi42 no, he was technical character that demanded strategic thinking, a character is only as good as the player
So is Justin Wong here to stay on commentary? I vote yes...haha, he and Saint Cola always bringing quality
Saint cola is the second worst commentator
33:20 Justin Wong is HIGH af !! What you smoking bro ?? Not even close man !!!
It sorta is it just adds a power wave
Well it is RISING FANG but in another way. Though wong was drunk😂😂.
Been a minute since I last seen a Punk teabag. GGs.
Next patch please to.give Honda and Manon some love
delete them
Im a bit disappointed in the commentary in grand finals. Kevin was playing out of his mind especially with his reactions but the commentators never gave him any props and constantly chalked it down to Terry being bad in some way. This is coming from a huge punk fan too
Kevin was playing out of his mind, but Punk was also exhausted.
@@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 Kevin came from losers if at all he was more exhausted
@@Hermelin69 part of going through a losers bracket is that you stay warmed up, Kevin was on a high, while Punk was cold.
@@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 Gotta make up your mind man, was he tired from playing in bracket or was he cold from not playing in bracket
@@Hermelin69 Both?
He finishes a close 3-2 matchup with Noah with a match that had extreme lag, then spends the next hour and a half streaming. (tired)
He then doesn't warm up, then plays Dual.(cold.) Dual played out of his mind, but you can't look at that performance and say Punk was on.
Punk vs Dual is a matchup where the median score is 3-1 Punk. Punk wins the vast majority of the matches.
You don't go from getting demolished earlier in the day, 3-0, not change up strategies, then 6-1 the person in grands, especially when that person beats you the overwhelming amount of time.
So either.
1.) Is Dual Kevin in the span of 2 hours suddenly improved his neutral so much, and adapted to the matchup so strongly, he can now be in contention for having the best neutral in the FGC. In 3 Hours.
or
2.) Punk(the guy with the reputation I just descirbed), the guy who normally beats Dual Kevin the vast majority of the time, he normally destroys him on the ground, in the neutral, just played tired and cold.
Sundays best ? Take him off the mic lmao
Are you OK? Bust-a-move!
@@nisennananem 😂
Dual Kevin at his strongest is when hes on losers side Grand Finals. Reaction time, reading the opponents, mind games, execution.
He almost beat punk at frosty faustings grand finals!
The CA version Terry doesn't do a rising tackle, he just does a powered up superman punch for the most part, and ends in the buster wolf blast. He never goes upside down in the CA.
The startup of it is a rising tack tho
@machsimillian14 I was in the middle of typing exactly what you said, but then decided to check to see if anyone else said it first. And you said it better than I would have! Thank you!
@danielvaldez3860 okay, yeah you're right. The start up is the rising tackle then it changes into the superman punch, buster wolf blast follow up
@@DShawnPaytonOffiicial Ditto
Yoga Tuah is a diabolical name for a Dhalsim player 😂
I wasn’t ready for that name to be the first thing I see in this tourney 😂
1:39:00
Look, JWong may be a legend, but don't let that man gaslight you. The only reason he heard "Sunday" is because he's played so much Marvel his mind has been playing tricks on him.
somethings wrong with Justin, bros hearing things now
are we gonna talk about the subtle MF DOOM reference when saint cola got back?
Bruh what is that thumbnail and why you gotta do my boi Luke like that😂
Terry is fun to play
ARE YOU OK?
BUSTA WOLF
what a win by DK , Amazing Rashid 🇸🇦
Down for one more?
Justin needs a hearing aid or something 😂
Hmmm a KOF 15 Terry that has Raw Damage compared in Proportion to SF6 Ryu and has range but lacks the normals to convert damage from a light attack unless you're very close
or SF6 Terry who has better utility normals with less range and moderate damage, but loses to people who outreach him, though is more well rounded overall.
I'd take SF6 Terry any day, KOF 15 might have the TOD and 50 percent single meter combos but he has JACK for tools to connect them, SF6 Terry may be too honest but he has the tools to make it to tournament finals depending on the skill of the player using him.
Though Buster Ignition >> Rising Fang/Sunday's Best (by The Wazzler) The animation is more modest and the latter feels way too Anime for my taste.
I wouldn't say he's got jack for tools in KOF15 when it comes to normals. His forward light punch is a great poke and special cancellable, his far heavy kick is an incredible poke, Rising Upper is sorely missed here. Overall though I would agree, SF6 Terry feels like he's got more room to breathe with six buttons. My only real complaint is that besides power dunk, I haven't really seen anyone make good use of his target combos. It's pretty early though, time will tell. Also, yeah, Rising Fang pretty good, but Buster Ignition is beautiful.
@@LoganEncinas-u7y in SF6 he has two overheads which gives him a better mixup, in 15, even his broken launch version's dumb unreactable ex crackshot overhead can't convert into anything.
Funny enough we can do the level 1 max mode combo from kof 14 as EX charge wall bounces (as it did in 14, as opposed to crumple in 15) and his ex crack shoot ground bounces when catching people airborne (ground bounce like in 14) but the bounce in sf6 is lower as only a dp can follow, in 14 we can still insert an A burn knuckle into buster wolf, if we can only hit with a knuckle we can cancel it into a level 2 geyser to get the same almost exact combo, and for all KOF 14 Terry's flaws, one thing he does have is an extremely big ass damage
Still I would trade the Drive rush low mediums into Fierce first hit into power charge shennanigans to get the crumple charge, burn knuckle level 2 geyser and climax 90 percent :p
Rashid costume is sneaky for drive rush Wong slow?
just got to give props my man when he said 'terry playing pokemon, he's ash catch em' while marissa was beating on terry lol
Let’s go Axel 🔥🔥🔥
Rashid definitely does reference the punisher with his ow
They were so confident it was 3-1 when it was 2-1 😂
watch the score count at 2:32:51 LMFAO
Those shades are made Saint Cola 😎
I thought Terry said cruuuusssshhhiiiing PAIN!
Did Dual Kevin forgotten his lvl2?
How a chad whiff punishes 2:14:58
1:39:25 it sounds like he’s saying stay back to me
Sounds like Rising pain
He says “Rising” but I don’t know the last word lol
....it totally sounds like Sunday's Best.... 😂
Double Sunday!!
為什麼當年卡普空要把泰瑞借給餓狼傳說？
Welcome back.
Sim Tuah
8:02 😂😂😂😂
3:03:39 nice bait
Shooty!
Justin was on his bullshit today lol
Is Terry top tier?
Still too early to say
They' re still figuring him out
I’m calling him mid
Probably not top, but definitely strong
he is TT, Terry Tier
Lopez Kevin Walker Susan Smith Kenneth
Not jp meta again 🙄
Justing wong is boring i dont care whatever anyone else says
DLC fighter 6
Throw loop fighter 6 still throw loop fighter 6 😂
If noah is so good how come hes hardly ever in GF let alone winning ?
he won a few weeks ago lol
@@josephwiard6695 1. He won one like a few weeks ago.
2. Du and Punk beat him repeatedly more times than he beats them. They are the most dominant NA players by a mile.
@@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 guess no good players were there
@@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821 guess no good players were there
bro plays videogames religiously, he never had a GF let alone been in one