It's almost impossible to port Inkscape/GNU Image Manipulation to Adwaita so that it would look and feel according to GNOME Human Interface Design Guidelines. Basically what designers would have to do‚ is to predict how the GNOME developers and designers would make a certain widget or interaction. This would have to happen with almost every custom widget‚ which will take enourmous time and effort in the end resulting in user frustration‚ when one interaction will be changed by another‚ when GNOME developers and designers come out with a better solution or frustration based on incompatibility with a new pattern. Sad truth - porting such projects to adwaita is simply unfeasible. It's close to using adw-gtk3 on gtk3 apps - won't be native adwaita experience‚ but just a reskin. The better approach is to review‚ expand‚ explore and improve existing tools in themselves. Then Inkscape and libadwaita could learn from each other and come out with a pattern better for everyone‚ maybe merging some styles in the process based on decisions made. It's about collaboration
I remember when its creator posted it on Reddit. A few replies convinced him to make a proposal, but the last time I checked the comments, they weren't so enthusiastic about it.
I think you can't just "implement a redesign" all at once. You need to break it down to smaller parts, and it's going to be a shitload of work. I mean, the sidebar on the right alone: The sidebar is user-configurable and can hold as many panels you want. Those panels are super complex, I mean the colour-selection alone is super complex. In order to do what the mockup is doing - showing multiple things at once (colour, position, etc.) - you need to reimplement minimalistic versions of those complex panels. And somehow, you need a good flow to reveal the acutal, bigger, complex UI when needed. This is problably something to start with: Make smaller/simpler versions of these panels and find ways to progresively expand them to their known, full potential. This is probably the most useful thing in the mockup.
@@aheendwhz1 That's true, I ended up realizing that, and I plan to gradually send several things. But this time, I'll try not to send just "UI" but actual usability improvements as well. By the way, I created the design XD
0:48 - bruh, PDN, for a really long time, was the only well-maintained program to combine both simplicity and rich functionality (like layers, effects, custom palettes, plugins etc.). And so is Pinta, even though you clearly can see how many features it lacks comparing to PDN these days (the biggest of which is no plugins support >:c). It's for people who don't need an advanced wunderwaffle, just a small but powerful graphics editor.
Apps like this show how incomplete the Gnome design guidelines are. There is still no consistent place for open/save/new operations, for example. Every program does its own thing, and it's a mess. At least, the shortcuts are still consistent. But I couldn't tell my sister (who prefers to use the mouse) where those operations are in various Gnome programs, because I didn't even know. You have to relearn for each program. They just dropped the menu bar without defining a replacement, and this is the one thing I don't like about Gnome - sometimes, they have the tendency to drop things before they have a proper replacement. And it's years since they dropped the menu bar, and I still see no incentive to define consistent places for the common operations that historically lived there.
When did you last try KDE Plasma? Like everyone has their own preferences and yep, Plasma 5 was pretty messy but Plasma 6 has been out for a while now and it's really good. Yeah, of course there are some occasional graphic glitches but their on par with Gnome and probably Windows is by far less visually consistent than both DEs.
GNU-IMP
The GNU Image Manipulator Program, also known as......
It's almost impossible to port Inkscape/GNU Image Manipulation to Adwaita so that it would look and feel according to GNOME Human Interface Design Guidelines. Basically what designers would have to do‚ is to predict how the GNOME developers and designers would make a certain widget or interaction. This would have to happen with almost every custom widget‚ which will take enourmous time and effort in the end resulting in user frustration‚ when one interaction will be changed by another‚ when GNOME developers and designers come out with a better solution or frustration based on incompatibility with a new pattern. Sad truth - porting such projects to adwaita is simply unfeasible. It's close to using adw-gtk3 on gtk3 apps - won't be native adwaita experience‚ but just a reskin. The better approach is to review‚ expand‚ explore and improve existing tools in themselves. Then Inkscape and libadwaita could learn from each other and come out with a pattern better for everyone‚ maybe merging some styles in the process based on decisions made. It's about collaboration
Yoo, that inkscape mockup looks HOT
I remember when its creator posted it on Reddit. A few replies convinced him to make a proposal, but the last time I checked the comments, they weren't so enthusiastic about it.
I think you can't just "implement a redesign" all at once. You need to break it down to smaller parts, and it's going to be a shitload of work.
I mean, the sidebar on the right alone: The sidebar is user-configurable and can hold as many panels you want. Those panels are super complex, I mean the colour-selection alone is super complex. In order to do what the mockup is doing - showing multiple things at once (colour, position, etc.) - you need to reimplement minimalistic versions of those complex panels. And somehow, you need a good flow to reveal the acutal, bigger, complex UI when needed.
This is problably something to start with: Make smaller/simpler versions of these panels and find ways to progresively expand them to their known, full potential. This is probably the most useful thing in the mockup.
@@aheendwhz1 That's true, I ended up realizing that, and I plan to gradually send several things. But this time, I'll try not to send just "UI" but actual usability improvements as well.
By the way, I created the design XD
Cairo is not dead, just stable. The last release was 1.18.2, 5 months ago.
Cairo is on critical condition 🤕🤕
ngl if inkscape implements that mockup I'll finally make the switch to install it
0:48 - bruh, PDN, for a really long time, was the only well-maintained program to combine both simplicity and rich functionality (like layers, effects, custom palettes, plugins etc.). And so is Pinta, even though you clearly can see how many features it lacks comparing to PDN these days (the biggest of which is no plugins support >:c).
It's for people who don't need an advanced wunderwaffle, just a small but powerful graphics editor.
LibAdawaita is stunning!!! ❤
I’m so torn on adwaita and libadwaita. On the one hand, I like the consistency. On the other, I’ve had a hard time ricing.
LibAdwaita looks out of place outside of GNOME.
@ Again? Oh!, no, bro! Next!
Sometimes you just need something really simple and easy.
Apps like this show how incomplete the Gnome design guidelines are.
There is still no consistent place for open/save/new operations, for example. Every program does its own thing, and it's a mess. At least, the shortcuts are still consistent. But I couldn't tell my sister (who prefers to use the mouse) where those operations are in various Gnome programs, because I didn't even know. You have to relearn for each program.
They just dropped the menu bar without defining a replacement, and this is the one thing I don't like about Gnome - sometimes, they have the tendency to drop things before they have a proper replacement. And it's years since they dropped the menu bar, and I still see no incentive to define consistent places for the common operations that historically lived there.
I could use Pinta if they add guides. Edited: I mean those lines that you add to snap stuff.
0:45 That's what I said in November last year.
real fact: the same people votes for Paint.Net, voted for Trump 🙃🙃
pinta has a great interface but lacks features, may paint brushes would be a great addition
So you switched to Zen browser 🤔
i didnt switch to Zen ....just looking cool on videos!! but i must say i use Firefox a lot lately; so far i was Chrome only
@@mii_beta true, you can right click on that gray sidebar, use "change theme color" to make it even pretty
Gtk Krita?
2479 views in 24 hours, channel in decline.
What browser do you use?
Zed browser
Pinta for life! 🔪
i see u joinin us in the zen-browser bandwagon ay... noice
My pinta
When did you last try KDE Plasma? Like everyone has their own preferences and yep, Plasma 5 was pretty messy but Plasma 6 has been out for a while now and it's really good. Yeah, of course there are some occasional graphic glitches but their on par with Gnome and probably Windows is by far less visually consistent than both DEs.
Simple is good
whoa you just said a bad word
KDE?
@mii_beta 🤣