When Arsenal Bid £40,000,001 For Luis Suárez
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2023
- In the 2013 summer transfer window, Arsenal famously - or infamously - bid £40 million, plus £1, for Liverpool's star man Luis Suárez.
The Gunners were told by the player's agent, Pere Guardiola, that Suarez had a £40 million release clause written into his Liverpool contract - but the bid was rejected, and it turned Arsenal's recruitment into a laughing stock.
Ten years on, HITC Sevens takes at perhaps the most important Premier League transfer that never happened, the truth behind the contested clause in Suarez's contract, and the legacy of football's most famous failed transfer bid.
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I never knew about what John Henry said about this episode at Sloan. That’s actually so crazy, he literally just said yeahhhhhh we decided to just ignore the contract cuz we thought nobody would do anything…
What’s even crazier is he ended up being right
I'm so shocked some incredibly rich guy felt he wouldn't get penalized for something he wasn't supposed to do.
That so goes against everything history has ever taught us.
@@dvdv8197 penalized but not tough enough for it to matter. You steal 100million and get a 15million penalty.
@@motianton euh yes that was my point. 😅 either they get away with it completely, or they get a slap on the wrist.
I’m with Alfie on that one tbh. Think he just decided to lie about what the contract actually involved so he could seem like a ruthless big shot at a networking event.
From 2014-2016, every player who Liverpool signed, most famously Firmino, had a clause in their contracts that blocked any transfer to Arsenal.
Lol imagine being so bitter after getting your bluff called so hard you ended up breaking the law
@@statisticallysound I know it's proper shithousery. John Henry clarified in 2019 that Suarez did have a buyout clause and they simply ignored it, also breaching contract law.
@@tdyerwestfield
Surprised Arsenal didn't actually sue Liverpool for doing exactly that.
@@MrSmith1984Football clubs are run by idiots. Just because they're rich doesn't mean they're smart.
City got some good years out of sterling, wish we would’ve blocked that one
To be honest I’m surprised Arsenal gave a whole extra £1. I was expecting only 1 penny (£0.01) 😂
it was for a small bag of chips. lol
“It’s Sam Alladyce” caught me off guard 😂😂
Could you imagine if Liverpool had Torres and Suarez? What an attack that would’ve been
also imagine if Anelka was bought instead of Diouf and Anelka partnered Owen
@@mezykinI'm upset that English teams don't take risks with managers, Liverpool were linked with Klopp for years, a slightly younger Gerrard and El Nino who hadn't just carried a terrible Roy Hodgson and Kenny team from being in a relegation scrap without them would've prevented the shit show that followed bar SAS
That was the plan.
I’m an arsenal fan, my best mate is a Liverpool fan. When this bid came in he was laughing saying arsenal were tight. But why would you bid more than a release clause was worth? If a player has a release clause and a team bids double or triple that clause then more fool them
I never understood why it didn’t go through, the release clause was met & triggered regardless of how minuscule the £1 was. I guess their word and contractual obligations meant fuck all.
I agree but I think there was more to the clause. If not Liverpool would have been forced to sell through the Court of Arbitration for Sport. I gather there was some legalese that Liverpool used to get around it. Solictors from both Arsenal and Liverpool would have been all over it. Also, £40,000,001 is just bad faith. If Arsenal had come in with say, £45,000,000 it probably would have brought Liverpool to the table.
@@M1d32 The clause probably was missunderstood by Suarez and his agent, If there was a 40m clause and Arsenal met it and Liverpool turned it down, this would have gone to court and Arsenal would have won. My theory is that there was two clauses, one of 40m and a higher one, the lower one was the one advertised to Suarez and his agent, but it had demands in the fine prints on which teams could activate it. Like "Can only be a team outside EPL" etc. And the higher one, was for any teams, just so that Liverpool could say "If any team meets the clause we will sell you" when Suarez signed.
If you had your house up for sale for 500k, and someone bid 475k, and then you said I'd need more, and then they came back with 475001, you'd think they were and idiot and break off negotiations,
@@GiliGulu1969 that’s not a correct comparison. If you saw a house for sale and for some reason there was a clause that said we are legally obliged to accept any bid over 500k, then it doesn’t matter what the selling party’s opinion is. Bottom line is they have to accept a bid of £500,001. And that was my point. Bidding £525k would be a waste of £25k
the transfer saga that started a franchise
Luis Suarez at Arsenal just seems wrong
Luis is just wrong in general
As wrong as Torres at Chelsea
You probably thought that about RVP at Man United
Suarez at Barcelona even more so
@@pimhuisman646Thats why he won the second treble, ended up as 3rd all time top scorer of the club. he joined the greatest club then not your finished banter club 🤡
I think Liverpool would've accepted Arsenal's bid if they had offered £40,000,002 instead
😂
Arsenal should have bidded 41 million instead. At least Liverpool would most probably have accepted this bid
Tbh, this kinda makes it even more banter era defining. Liverpool literally just said no to Arsenal even when they actually had no right to 😂
It wasn't a very clear buy out clause,
As an Arsenal fan I totally forgot about this…
Thanks for the reminder 👍🏾😒😂😂
Would've won the league
true@@danielo7985
As an Arsenal fan that bid still haunts me to this day 😭
man... imagine suarez with ozil behind him and sanchez to his left with giroud on the bench and the pace of walcott off the right, we're such a nearly football club it hurts 😪😪😪
@@chriswoodtoarsenal imagine for what?to get battered by bayern 10-1 or competing for top 4 Suarez rejected small club like arsenal to win treble or atlest ucl with barca😂😂😂😂u r arsenal your entire history is 1 ucl final L n 2 Europa Final L😂😂spurs has 2 europa chelsea 2 europa n 2 ucl west ham 1 europa conference league😂😂match that first😂😂ox left u to win ucl with Liverpool u r arsenal fa cup arsenal that's it😂😂😂
@@LuisGarcia-fw2tt
@@LuisGarcia-fw2ttwhat is bossman rambling about
It cost us at least one league title, I was infuriated with how the situation was handled by both sides
Beautiful work as always Alfie. I have a suggestion about 7 Most Crazy/Eccentric Stories in Football? I saw somewhere in South America a club dig up their entire pitch looking for a dead cat that was bringing them bad luck and it actually worked or something.
Racing Club de Avellaneda
😹😹😹😹😹
The infamous £40000001 bid not only proved how stupid Arsenal were in negotiations at the time, Liverpool weren't entertaining any negotiations with Arsenal and Arsenal missed out on Higuain at the same period to Napoli. The bid that chased the course of Liverpool and Arsenal for a decade.
Had Liverpool accepted the bid, no question Liverpool would be dreaming of playing Champions League football and ending their 3 decade wait of winning the Premier League title. Arsenal on that same contrast would win their first Premier League title for 10 years and Leicester City would be 2nd that time with Arsenal winning another Premier League title with Alexis Sanchez backing up Suarez. Instead Liverpool missed out on the Premier League title in 2014, however Klopp arrived in 2015 and we all know what happened since and Arsenal went deep into mediocrity and allowed Leicester to do the unthinkable by winning the Premier League title and went without Champions League football for six years with more mediocre players like Mustafi, Sanogo, Lichtsteiner, Sokratis, MKH and Pepe stinking up Arsenal.
The infamous bid was a stuff of legends in football. It was unforgettable for Liverpool to harden their resolve to keep Suarez and further cement Arsenal as the status of mediocrity and disillusionment for years at the time. Football is a funny sport and this storyline saga will be remembered for generations.
Your spot on here, the more you think of it the more the last decade could have changed because of this bid. Liverpool accept, and they almost certainly reinvest that poorly, Charlie Adam, Andy Carrol, Mario Ballotelli, Fabio Borini, Lazar Markovic era. If they still looked that bad perhaps Klopp would never come. Arsenal could have picked up the 13-14, 14-15. 15-16 titles and who know that momentum could have carried them on for more in what really became the Pep-Klopp era.
@@kevinjenkins6657 Correct. Liverpool would indeed invest in the Suarez a year earlier than expected but since they did invest poorly during the Adam, Borini, Downing, Allen era, Klopp wouldn't even consider joining Liverpool and even if he did, Liverpool would be far more deep in mediocrity than Arsenal were. Arsenal on the other hand would be title contenders for years and better players would be joining instead of relying Giroud, Walcott, Ramsey and Wilshire to take Arsenal to the next level. City wouldn't be walking the Premier League for the last 5 years albeit Liverpool can close on both occasions and winning one Premier League title. Arsenal would have won 3 more Premier League titles at least and maybe go deep in the Champions League. The last decade could have been a lot different for both clubs had Liverpool accepted the offer.
The other side effect is one of the most iconic striker partnerships in history would not be formed, and Barcelona would not have won a second treble. There would be no MSN, and its possible Real Madrid would have won one more Champions League title than in our timeline.
Ppl forget how lethal he was in the prem for a bad Liverpool team
People make comparisons to Maradona for players like Messi etc but Suarez was his true sucessor imo
Who forgets 😂😂
nobody forgets
He was better than Salah
Literally nobody forgot lol
How about the most unlikely players that ended up becoming world class
This!
Kante, Vardy, Mahrez, Drogba, Navas to name a few.
Vadyy was good but not world class
@@archstanton6102 being second top goal scorer only behind Harry Kane in the EPL isn't world class?
@renes3360 No - world class is proving it on the world and European stage. Just scoring in Premier League does mot make you world class. Look at Kevin Phillips.
Arsenal have been the subject of ridicule over the years resulting from this bid though I personally don't think they did anything to deserve it.
What was so strange about offering 40 mil for a player worth around 40 mil?
No way Suárez was worth £15M less than Cavani, as mentioned in the video
@reintaler6355
1) he wanted to leave
2) he had multiple disciplinary issues
3) It was still significant profit
All these off the pitch issues affects a player's transfer value.
Some greater players are sold for less than their on pitch value because teams are desperate to get rid of them.
Others are sold for more than they're truly worth because teams are desperate to acquire them.
Most definitely Chelsea paid more than what Lukaku is truly worth, and our desperation to get rid of him guarantees we'll most definitely get less than what he's truly worth.
Still I don't see why Arsenal get dunked on for this specific transfer saga. As far as gaffes go, this isn't even enough to constitute one. Liverpool are the one who should've gotten stick for behaving dickishly.
@@austinedeclan10 It would not have been the actual price suarez is worth even at that time. Let's be real
@ohgin12345 that does not matter if the club think he's an indisciplined misfit they'd rather move on than keep around
@@austinedeclan10 and why when he is their best asset at that time? Are you a noob?
Mourinho didn't arrive back st Chelsea until 2013. Di Matteo and Benitez were their managers in 2012/13
That was amazing ❤️❤️❤️
Great document alfie
Great video Alfie. Now I would like you to make a similar video on the Ballon D'Or clause in Anthony Martial's contract at Man United.
I have a new suggestion for you: With the transfer of Ernest Nuamah from Nordsjælland to Molenbeek, and immediate loan to Lyon, we've seen what should be the most controversial transfer of the window. For that reason, I suggest that you do a video on multi-club ownership groups and bridge transfers.
The issue is they tried to do a barcelona on Liverpool. Like barcelona used to do in past with their dirty player tapping thing and unsettling the player that would force the club into letting him go in cheap. They thought they are so big that they could carry it out on Liverpool 😂😂
Hey, Alfie,
I recently saw a picture of all european treble winners and something caught my attention. Between 1966 and 1999 there were four treble winners, whilst between 2008 and 2023 there were six. Could you please make a video explaining the reason for that?
Thanks
Essentially, it’s the old phrase “the rich get richer” but applied to football.
To win the treble you need to have a truly great team. It’s far easier today to build a great team (if you’re at the top of the pyramid, of course) than it was in yesteryear, especially before the 90s when the EU foreigner limit was in place and when the hyper-commercialization of the game hadn’t yet occurred.
Today top teams can buy many more top class and world class players, have essentially no limit on importing foreign talent, and can build larger squads with superior bench players owing to their deeper finances affording such players. They can sign the excellent players that routinely win matches and tournaments, as well as the good players that can come off the bench and seal a scrappy but necessary win in the league or the cup as the starters rest/recover. Add to this the vastly superior nutrition/fitness/health science, technology, and resources available and your ability to fight on all 3 fronts for 10 months becomes greater.
Finally, it’s worth mentioning that since UEFA made it easier to qualify for the Champions League in the mid-90s, 3 of the 6 European treble winners won editions of the tournament in which they would not have previously qualified as they hadn’t won their league the season before, so United 1998-99, Bayern 2012-13, and Barcelona 2014-15’s trebles would not have happened
As an arsenal fan this video is too painful to watch. This transfer would’ve changed the destiny of our club. I still can’t believe to this day we put that stupid bid in
What was stupid about it? Did you watch the video? The clause was met, silly!
@@navykeefwhat tf did they thought was going to happen when they bid 40000001? That is fucking disrespectful.
@@DataDriven1I assume they thought that since a transfer clause had been met, they would be able to discuss a contract with Suarez. Y’know coz that’s how transfer clauses work
@@DataDriven1 you’re kidding right? Disrespect is not abiding by the clause of a contract. Are you 7?
Well, no body knew about the precise amount Suarez release clause. However I believe liverpool want 55mil. If Arsenal serious, they can bid around 40/45 mil but they didn't. And of course that 1 pound, make this story so interesting 😅
Good one Alfie. Thank you. Can we please have a video about Maltese Football ⚽
heard the craziest bid was the one yesterday Manu gave to Fiorentina for Amrabat £2m
I still can"t get over Andy Carriol to Liverpool. It was insane even back then. Adjusting for inflation 35m is still a lot of money
The Premier League is so serious nowadays. Where are all the Borini Balotelli Lambert strike partnerships. Or the Sanogos and Kallstroms?
As your biggest Uruguayan fan, this is now my favorite video on youtube. Thanks Alfie
ayyyy, HITC early gang, Alfie the 🐐
should make one on angel di maria when his work visa was refused by home office last minute when he was about to go to Arsenal.
Per guardiola looks like pep from wish 😂
the sam allardyce joke was top notch, made me have to pause the video to laugh
Bidding £1 more and thinking that's going to buy someone's loyalty is like the firms who give people a few pence over the minimum wage to make it up to a 'round figure' - it's pretty much a sign of "we're going to make a really obvious 'look we're doing you a favour' when really, if we could pay you less, we would"
5:42 Love this! 😂😂
Errare humanum est, Alfie. You sure ain't no clown for it. 😉
Higuain had a pretty good run at Juventus.
Maybe Steven Gerrard should be our sporting director.
Dnt see other teams adding muny into a realise clause we stil offered £1 extra we were being generous lol
“He was very good at football and they weren’t” 👏👏👏👏👏
What could have been 😪 Thankfully the penny pinching days seem to be over. Great video 👌
The shaw cut was so good lol
The greatest season perfomance on a Liverpool N°7 Jersey in the history of the Premier League. I know Liddel perfomance was more important tho but I just wish somebody's elder have seen him would tell me just how good was Nienhuwenhuys during his prime I'm sure there has to be somebody alive today whose grandfather saw him wear that jersey.
Day 1: What on Earth is going on at Lyon?
Man, if Suarez and coutinho both stayed at Liverpool they probably would've won so many trophies. Especially with klopp.
Suarez's transfer was successful, but Coutinho's was disastrous to his career and for Barcelona. What a story
No.
8:13 Suarez's face lmfao
Can you do a video about players that failed medical tests as I don’t know anyone who has an it would be very interesting
This was just embarrassing by Arsenal at the time, my friend is an Arsenal fan and i remember the day like it was yesterday when he rang me telling me to stick on sky sports news. He was in a pile of laughter it was and still is 1 of the most funny and cringe things i have ever seen 😂😂
What is wrong with the grammar in his Tweet at 1:15? I don’t see anything glaring.
it should be 'the Emirates'
I'm sorry but the name Dick Law is absolutely hilarious :D :D :D
That transfer proved to be more than I imagined
"Since July 2000 and TWENTE"...
It would be great if you put your videos out as podcasts.
Day 76: Rise and fall off Klaipėdos Atlantas
(Alternative idea: what Evertons religation would mean to everton and english football)
Look at those chompers, no wonder he kept doing it.
Still shocked Arsenal didn't sue Liverpool then
Then perhaps there were things that Arsenal, like every big football club, does not want a court looking at.
8:48 time stamped.... Same thing as signing Houjland 😂
Its crazy that Henry admitted to breaching the contract with Suarez, knowingly and then lying about it to the press ... and he didn't get the crap sued out of him?
I can't stand Suarez, but no ones boss should be able to so brazenly violate their contract like that.
Well, no one know the precise amount Suarez's release clause tho 😅
How did you get 30 mins out of this? 😂
The craziest ever bid because at that time,my beloved Arsenal did this just think that they were like a beggar which ultimately embarrased Arsenal's board of directors,good friends!!!Sorry to Liverpool but shameful to Arsenal,good friends!!!🙏
Im a liverpool fan i remember the time of the bid arsnal were a laughing stock after it 1 extra pound still to this day it seems so stupid to me
@@stevenlynch33 That is extremely so right and during that time,our management team were a laughing stock the team and that stupid 1 extra pound proved that they were right to be bantered,good friend!!!
@@depekthegreat359 banter era is over now my friend for both our teams but if i can add one thing why buy havertz savage waste of 60 million
@@stevenlynch33 I know the banter era is over but I have started to totally boycott myself from even watching the corrupted Premier League,good friend!!!🏋♂️🙏🏻
@@depekthegreat359 im falling out of love with the game more more as each day passes money hungry diving whores the lot of them
Video suggestion: ranking every Champions league season since (whatever year you deem fit), based on shocks, comebacks, quality of final, quality of football, iconic memorable moments.
For example, last years CL will probably be quite far down the list but the 21/22 season would be much higher cos of Real Madrid’s run where they were the underdog at some stage in every single round from Ro16
With this, some of the “best” CL seasons might include 2018/19 where you had the 2 semi finals, 05/06, 08/09, 11/12 etc
I’m ngl as an Arsenal fan I can’t believe they thought the bid wouldn’t piss liverpool off🤣
24:26 😂😂😂😂😂
As an Arsenal fan, this video is painful to watch. What could have been.
You know what is direspectful? Liverpool dismiss the contractual buyout clause and openly mocked Arsenal's bid.
We would basically live in a different world if this transfer went though!
They would have 3 champions leagues and 4 Premier leagues
I wonder if Arsenal's +1 trick would work in FIFA or Football Manager. 😄
In Fifa 23 you just click pay the release clause and start negotiations with the player because that's how release clauses work. Not sure about Football Manager.
Kenny Daglish had to comeback from retirement when we down grade to Roy Hodgson ... Brendan Rodgers won't win us anything dats 100%. Loads of things to undo b4 getting Klopp.
Yep, Klopp really stabilizes Liverpool. Don't forget the chaos before FSG takes over and almost bankrupt back then. That's why, when Liverpool had bad season last year and did mess transfer, I have faith everything will be alright 😆😆😅
One of the funniest videos on HITC yet💀💀💀💀football isn't real
Day (lost count +14): The despicable despotic president of Bangladesh Football Federation
Can you please make a video on the ongoing controversy on Luis Rubiales forcibly kissing Spanish midfielder Jenni Hermoso during the 2023 FIFA Women’s World Cup Trophy Presentation and backlash/anger that Rubiales’s subsequent actions have caused?
Deadline day is tomorrow..
TBF whoever decided on a release clause of only 40 mil was asking for it. Given players like Højlund costing 72 mil and Nkunku costing 52 mil, 40 mil for a world class striker like Suarez is too low.
Can't compare it to Høylund and Nkunku. £40 million back then is equivalent to something like £90 million now, it was a huge amount for a player.
40mil release clause in 2014 is much more than 100mil nowaday. Neymar to PSG is 200mil 5 years ago. That transfer damaged market price.
Do you think Hojlund and Nkunku worth their price?
27:12 if anyone other adult in any other field of work physically bit their coworkers--not just once but thrice, no less--they'd be fired, blacklisted from the industry and shamed into exile. They'd also probably be institutionalised.
I am still furious at 2 games suspension for literally biting. But not completely neutral here ;)
Suarez being cheaper than caroll shows that English players get far to much pressure n oruvmce tag Maguire caroll n any other English half decent kid 😊
😂A REAL GEM OF A TWEET😅😅
The transfer hunt that kicked off 442oons.
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 541)
I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored.
If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
He deffo broke contract law. Arsenal should have had some balls about them and took Liverpool to Court.
Henry's comments about it are idiotic and just makes him sound even more typically American being upset that a Player can leave their contract if they are bought for multiple millions by another Club - something that has to happen with the blessing of him and Liverpool lol.
No one know the precise Suarez's release clause tho, not even his manager 😅
@@hills863 they did.. It was £40m... Suarez's agent and Suarez obviously knew as they had his contract.. Hence it was his agent who told Arsenal what to bid
@@xixXxxXxix If that's true, why they didn't push it? I believe there's reason behind that 🤷♀️ also Arsenal are very bad in transfer that time
@@hills863 you know how much it would have cost to take to Court.. Could have ended up like double the price lol
@@xixXxxXxix Well no one do anything after more than a decade, you know
John Henry’s wife.... just what is attraction??? (💰💰💰💰💰)
I think that Liverpool US guy only sees sport through the US lense where they own the player and can do with them what they want (i.e. trade anywhere without consent, etc.) - aka modern slavery. He also did not seem to be able to distinguish between a release clause and a player just wanting to move.
Also, Suarez and his agent should know if the contract had any release clause. If Liverpool simply ignored it that is literally breach of contract and they could have gone to court and they surely would have if it existed. So I doubt that it actually existed.
Either way, still hoping for that Austrian Wunderteam video 😇✌.
Hello, Alfie. Can you make a video about what is going on with Malaysian football right now? With the senior national team are prepared for playing at Asian Cup in January next year, Johor Darul Takzim(JDT), one of Malaysia biggest football club are aim to achieve 9 time Malaysian Super League in row in this season. JDT also unbeaten in all the competition in this season and Malaysian under 17s squad are crash out in group stage on AFC Under-17 Asian Cup.
Best players to never participate in a world cup?
If you know the lowest selling price of a car you want at an auction is, let say, $15,000, would you bid $15000 or $17000?
I'm so glad Arsenal didn't bid £50M or higher for Suarez :)
Can you please make a video in which you explain how Italian players age so well
Kinda gay
@@MikeOxtinks care to explain mr UncutChode?
@@moosheesterbeek3209ignore the homophobic troll
I have no idea but probably their diet plays a part.
@@soundscape26 phobic?😂 It's a joke you snowflake
Suarez was so good.
Thanks for that, I never really understood the extra pound and I never really understood why it was a bid. Why pay more than a release clause? So basically, it was a matter of Liverpool's lack of understand of Tort. Strange that no legal action was taken but Wenger has always been a gent. I was actually rather pleased that he didn't join Arsenal, there's something fundamentally unnerving about a racist with Pica disorder.
Should have just bidded 41 million
@@ohgin12345 Why?
@@runswithcows at least from a psychology point of view, the Liverpool owners would not have stopped the transfer
@@ohgin12345 They broke the contract, the release clause was met, what difference does any figure over the release amount make? The Liverpool owners disregarded the release clause, that's pretty much the whole point of the video.
@@runswithcows You see. If arsenal bided 41 mill instead of an insulting 40 mill + 1. The Liverpool owner would most probably have accepted it as he knows he got caught with his pants down and since Arsenal was generous enough to offer him a million dollars more, at least, he would just accept this offer. But since Arsenal only offer 1 dollar more, of course as the Liverpool owner, I will make sure that the deal does not go past as it is going to be embarrassing for me. Sometimes you need a bit of common sense. 41 mill is still a good price for suarez.
what team does this guy support
Hull city
All I know is, Henry has the cutest wife in world football.
No MSN no Football
Suarez, greatest striker of all time in my eyes. He could do it all. Nazario 2nd for me.
The moral? Don't haggle with the very cheap and canny.
nice
He would have won us the league
F Patrice Evra
There's only one Ukrainian player playing in the Russian premier league, sounds like your kind of thing
One thing you didn't mention was that a lot of the players Liverpool brought in from the money they got from selling Luis Suarez were pivotal to the early years of the Klopp era. Some prominent examples include the likes of Lallana, Lovren, Can and Moreno with Divock Origi being by far the most important
None of those players were necessarily fantastic but they were a key part of the team Klopp inherited in 2015
Laziest bid of all time
Why? What's so strange about offering to pay 40 million for a player valued at 40 million at the time?
The cheeky £1 was the lazy part