I just bought one of these! Pros: •VERY.... and I mean VERY fun blowback gun •Mostly aluminum construction •Realistically heavy (I love the look and feel of this gun!) Cons: •Not accurate (due to the barrel shroud being easily rattled and a TERRIBLE sight picture) •Not that powerful (although there was no claim that it was) •Extra magazines are ~$40 •Small set screw for barrel shroud easily comes loose, and no included screwdriver to fix it •Eats through CO2 like CRAZY Final thoughts: I’m having a lot of fun with it and wouldn’t dream of returning it. However, I won’t be purchasing another one. If you’re considering buying one of these for yourself, keep in mind it wasn’t designed to be a cost-efficient accurate plinker or a pest control solution.
I totally agree with you. The Mauser is a joy to look at and shoot. Some like it, others don't. For me it's the best of the best - and the only semi auto gun I have ever owned that has never misfired on a single occasion. Interesting story. Winston Churchill had one and it saved his life, when he was attacked by 7 natives in Africa. The normal pistol would have been a 6 shot Webley revolver but he was given special permission to use the Mauser. It's ironic that his life was saved by a German pistol.
I own one of these, and while it's fun to shoot and looks good, my experience has been that it has a couple of mechanical weaknesses. First, the barrel shroud attachment is dodgy: it relies on a tiny, insufficient set screw to hold it firm amid the oscillations. The thing kept coming undone, and finally failed completely. I fixed it by drilling out the hole and using a stainless steel screw registered into a carefully-shaped nut that fits between the shroud and the actual barrel. Second: I suspect that firing it at full auto broke a couple of spring-retention parts within the sliding bolt. Umarex was real quick about getting me spares, but they sent me a kinked spring to replace a kinked spring. I found a better one from another source and now the gun works fine, but I'm cautious with it. So: buy one if you want, but be prepared to deal with repairing it.
I have one. Don't shoot it full auto until you run thru 2 clips at semi. If you run the first clip at full auto it will keep on firing until co2 runs out. A waste of co2. One tube co2 for 17 shots. Gets expensive
I bought this couple of days ago. German shop so only semi because of the no-fun laws still realy fun but 2 things i have to say: the barrel can become loose but a little tape at the base can thighten it up. And the long screw from the charging handle can come loose and “fly out”. Same tape method can fix it.
I've got one of these, and yeah they are beautifully made. Unfortunately, here in the UK we are not allowed the full auto. The sliding button N-R still moves but changes nothing. I'm curious as to what the full auto looks like when stripped. I'd like to compare them to see what's missing.
@@felixdagger549 The full automatic option in the British version is disabled before leaving the factory. It is an offence to reverse this. Nevertheless, I want to. To do this I need to see what the full auto looks like inside so I know what has been removed. The button on the side still operates, pointing to semi or full N&R respectively.
Weird question probably. Is the KWC M712 magazine compatible with the magazine receiver on this gun? The two are nearly identical to each other. The only notable difference I’ve been able to see is in the feeding spring.
Hi from Sunny South Africa.Dave I need your help. I bought a M712 Broom Handel Air Gun The problem I have is that MAGAZINE keeps falling out.Can it be that the magazine catch is messed up. Where can I get spares. Pieter
Where might I get hold of a UK spec version of this? I cant find it in stock anywhere. Is it EOL? Indeed, if you ever release a "DL-44" version , I would love to buy it immediately
Honest question, is the legends series of guns made under KWC and marketed by umarex? Because from what I know, there’s a non umarex Legend m712 and that just shoots semi and is a mix of polymer and metal.
@@notafanofbusesoranyothertr513 Tell me about it, it's the same with the Colt 45 SAA Peacemakers 5.5 inch barrels that are still coming loose after 9 years of complaints, its still happening it used to mostly happen with the older BBs versions but l bought a brand new one in antique finish because l have same in silver and its been great most accurate co2 gun I've had it's keeping its silver and l get 130 pellets to one 12g co2 cartridge,, the new one was great too and l liked its worn look better than the silver to me. Then after shooting it only two sessions over 2 days l noticed the barrel was a bit wobbly, first time, then putting it away l noticed it had gotten slightly looser, so knowing it was all down hill from there after reading about many such things happening l took it back to the gunstore l purchased it from and it's being sent back for repair or replacement which he's promised it will be there and back in a fortnight, I've got 4 other guns to keep me busy but l don't like my guns away from me lol. The actual repiar should be a shim bent around the end of the barrel that fits into frame, there's vids on how to do it on TH-cam by amatuers but l aint attempting that it's a lot of fiddly bits and I'm no good with stuff like that. The fact that a shim can do it makes me wonder why Umarex doesn't include it in the standard. Mine cist me £200 and the silver £225 how come they're more expensive here than America ? Our pounds are worth more than their dollars yet they can purchase a gun for under a hundred pounds yet over here it's more than twice the price.. Hmmm..
So the title says "Full Auto Air Gun Review", and still he never shoots it at full auto! Makes you wonder if he worried about a messed up magazine catch, which according to the repair guys at Umerex, is this guns "Achilles Heel". Notice @ 1:24 he tries to slam the mag in and it will not stay! I phoned them today, and their head repair guy said that their main repair for this model is from people jamming in the clip too hard/fast and messing up the catch. Notice that after that @ 3:09 he tends to "cradle" both the gun's frame and mag with both hands when firing. Maybe he was worried about whether the super-glue he used to fix it would hold?
@@notafanofbusesoranyothertr513 I'm a bit late to this game, but are you so tilted that you're actively replying to this channel's comments on EVERY SINGLE COMMENT? Get a life dude.
@@Vigilant_Owl yea, I moved on. A comment like this takes me 30 seconds I guess. How pathetic of me. Enjoy thinking about your reply (tick tick tick :p ) Oh yea, the gun sucks. Do not buy!
Yes it will. It helps improve accuracy in semi and full-auto mode and when your done shooting, just pull out the magazine and it fits inside the stock just fine with just a little modification with a Dremel tool or a file to make room for the selector switch. You can find replica stocks on Ebay for around $60.
There is a slot for the stock, however keep in mind the frame is not steel and the tabs are thin, so it would probably wear and potentially break when force is applied
zu Lwowitz Ever since I receive a M 712 from Umarex about 4,000 BBs ago , I was wandering about the claim of 360 FPS (on the box and everywhere ) since the couple of ‘wandering BBs at the beginning of my shooting escapades went clearly through the 1.5 inch wooden door at our bathroom . This feet couldn’t be reproduced by my other airgun SA 10 which claims a FPS of 430 - 440 . Both guns produce , at best , the same FPS -----shooting 5.4 gr steel Daisy BBs ( my SA 10 doesn’t like pellets of any kind or fashion )-----as futher velocity tests done with the same external condition ( including the time ) have shown . My contention is that FPS-----as one , if not the most , important stats for the customers-----should be taken much more seriously. The difference of almost 100 FPS shown above is clearly impossible to swallow and , thus , all reviewers ( including this one ) should start with chrono test . I believe that a lot of expensive misunderstanding could be thus avoided .
Umarax are power I have the brodax I shot a large lizard and when the pellet hit it ,it actually brush the lizard 3 inches away before it could even think to run.
Agree this is a great-looking gun. In the UK ANY auto-fire gun is illegal, including this, so it is available ONLY as a single-shot pistol. Having an auto-fire gun in the UK could land you in jail for a few years. .
I love the uk double standard where semi auto 400 fps metal BBs are absolutely fine, but if you want to just not have to pull the trigger for each shot it is completely banned. I bet if you brought this argument up to a politician though they'd have semi auto banned too. Sometimes I feel bad being a Briton.
What are you talking about, he showed all the functions, including semi-auto, the clip’s bane, it’s just full auto in slomo (Which I see as demonstrating the action better than you could see it in real time)There’s other vids too. Be grateful there’s any good in this world at all, or you’d be seeing more of the real ones in action.
You have not shown the main failing of this super fine replica. The main problem with this excellent pistol, is that it has no bolt/charge handle 'holdback' on last shot and can be fired on semi-auto and full auto with just gas because of that. It will carry on firing with no BB's in it. You might want to look at my vid @ th-cam.com/video/xmyRWg8O_MQ/w-d-xo.html . It is my modified M712 which has 'holdback' and will NOT fire without BB's in it. Mine stops firing on last shot in both semi-auto and full auto. It does not waste gas and you can then get 2-3 magazines worth from one CO2 capsule. I am aware it does need quite a bit of gas to throw that bolt/charge handle back and give it a very realistic recycling speed. IT IS STILL A SUPERB REPLICA THOUGH.
this gun is absolute trash. it looks cool, the weight is fantastic, but the construction is awful. the barrel is not secure so it jumps around on full auto. this gun has been around for years and they never bothered to fix this huge problem
I just bought one of these!
Pros:
•VERY.... and I mean VERY fun blowback gun
•Mostly aluminum construction
•Realistically heavy (I love the look and feel of this gun!)
Cons:
•Not accurate (due to the barrel shroud being easily rattled and a TERRIBLE sight picture)
•Not that powerful (although there was no claim that it was)
•Extra magazines are ~$40
•Small set screw for barrel shroud easily comes loose, and no included screwdriver to fix it
•Eats through CO2 like CRAZY
Final thoughts: I’m having a lot of fun with it and wouldn’t dream of returning it. However, I won’t be purchasing another one. If you’re considering buying one of these for yourself, keep in mind it wasn’t designed to be a cost-efficient accurate plinker or a pest control solution.
I'd buy it just for its looks and historical connections and the fact it was one of the first ever autos made
Are you in the uk?
I totally agree with you. The Mauser is a joy to look at and shoot. Some like it, others don't. For me it's the best of the best - and the only semi auto gun I have ever owned that has never misfired on a single occasion.
Interesting story. Winston Churchill had one and it saved his life, when he was attacked by 7 natives in Africa. The normal pistol would have been a 6 shot Webley revolver but he was given special permission to use the Mauser. It's ironic that his life was saved by a German pistol.
Thanks for sharing.
Who thought it was a good idea to have 'music' droning along in the background?
Thank you......that music is so Damn annoying!!!
the idiot only showed it in slow motion too. The background music sucked also.
@@tralfazz7579 Clearly you didn't watch the whole video because he shoots it in real-time at the 03:00 mark
I think it's to jam your own natural background music soundtrack.
Lol the mag would not go in and they changed the scene lmaoo
Nothing I'd fuss about, it's still an amazing gun
I own one of these, and while it's fun to shoot and looks good, my experience has been that it has a couple of mechanical weaknesses. First, the barrel shroud attachment is dodgy: it relies on a tiny, insufficient set screw to hold it firm amid the oscillations. The thing kept coming undone, and finally failed completely. I fixed it by drilling out the hole and using a stainless steel screw registered into a carefully-shaped nut that fits between the shroud and the actual barrel. Second: I suspect that firing it at full auto broke a couple of spring-retention parts within the sliding bolt. Umarex was real quick about getting me spares, but they sent me a kinked spring to replace a kinked spring. I found a better one from another source and now the gun works fine, but I'm cautious with it.
So: buy one if you want, but be prepared to deal with repairing it.
Sorry you had so many issues, Eric. Thank you for your honest review.
I have one. Don't shoot it full auto until you run thru 2 clips at semi. If you run the first clip at full auto it will keep on firing until co2 runs out. A waste of co2. One tube co2 for 17 shots. Gets expensive
its super fun and really heavy. people do say the barrel is loose but i dont mind it
I bought this couple of days ago. German shop so only semi because of the no-fun laws still realy fun but 2 things i have to say: the barrel can become loose but a little tape at the base can thighten it up. And the long screw from the charging handle can come loose and “fly out”. Same tape method can fix it.
Thank you for your patronage in Germany. Shoot on. Shoot safe.
Is there a option to get a smaller mag so it looks like a strip clip version?, also how powerful is it?
The C96 came with a hollow detachable shoulder stock that doubled as a holster.
Yep.
That "little slide" is called a follower
Haha! You got him!
The mag didnt go in and then They change the scene
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I've got one of these, and yeah they are beautifully made. Unfortunately, here in the UK we are not allowed the full auto.
The sliding button N-R still moves but changes nothing.
I'm curious as to what the full auto looks like when stripped. I'd like to compare them to see what's missing.
Can it not go full auto at all?
@@felixdagger549 The full automatic option in the British version is disabled before leaving the factory. It is an offence to reverse this. Nevertheless, I want to. To do this I need to see what the full auto looks like inside so I know what has been removed. The button on the side still operates, pointing to semi or full N&R respectively.
Recently bought mine and noticed that there is a slit on the back. Does this mean that there is a stock I can buy for it?
Not that I am aware of, maybe a aftermarket out there.
Yes the original stock for the real one fits on perfect
Definitely going to make a good Christmas gift
Weird question probably. Is the KWC M712 magazine compatible with the magazine receiver on this gun? The two are nearly identical to each other. The only notable difference I’ve been able to see is in the feeding spring.
Great gun! The all metal construction is awesome, can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Thanks for the vid!
Hi from Sunny South Africa.Dave I need your help. I bought a M712 Broom Handel Air Gun
The problem I have is that MAGAZINE keeps falling out.Can it be that the magazine catch is messed up.
Where can I get spares. Pieter
Where might I get hold of a UK spec version of this? I cant find it in stock anywhere. Is it EOL? Indeed, if you ever release a "DL-44" version , I would love to buy it immediately
I love how it's always associated with Han Solo's blaster lol
Some of us are a fan of it. =)
does the gun keep firing when the bullets run out?
How many magazines can you use with 1 co2 tube?
On full auto you'll only get 3. So use a speed loader and have a spare mag! It should stop firing on empty.
Yes it keeps firing when empty So you need to count shots. This is the major drawback of this replica for me.
i got mine, on full auto it uses 3 magazines, it still fires if it has gas in it, even if it has no bbs.
@@UmarexAir it absolutely does not stop firing on empty. stop lieing to your customers.
Hey, dumb question, is the firing pin compatible with the semi auto version?
Sorry, no.
Will this go through a goats skin? I need to keep my goats off the back porch without putting holes in them.
We advise against that.
Honest question, is the legends series of guns made under KWC and marketed by umarex? Because from what I know, there’s a non umarex Legend m712 and that just shoots semi and is a mix of polymer and metal.
They've been in the mix. ;)
That is a cool airsoft Mauser c96 pistol good job umarex 👍
Very entertaining video, interesting product. 👍
Thanks for the visit
@@UmarexAir why do you guys keep selling this without fixing the glaring problems that people have pointed out for years?
@@notafanofbusesoranyothertr513
Tell me about it, it's the same with the Colt 45 SAA Peacemakers 5.5 inch barrels that are still coming loose after 9 years of complaints, its still happening it used to mostly happen with the older BBs versions but l bought a brand new one in antique finish because l have same in silver and its been great most accurate co2 gun I've had it's keeping its silver and l get 130 pellets to one 12g co2 cartridge,, the new one was great too and l liked its worn look better than the silver to me.
Then after shooting it only two sessions over 2 days l noticed the barrel was a bit wobbly, first time, then putting it away l noticed it had gotten slightly looser, so knowing it was all down hill from there after reading about many such things happening l took it back to the gunstore l purchased it from and it's being sent back for repair or replacement which he's promised it will be there and back in a fortnight, I've got 4 other guns to keep me busy but l don't like my guns away from me lol. The actual repiar should be a shim bent around the end of the barrel that fits into frame, there's vids on how to do it on TH-cam by amatuers but l aint attempting that it's a lot of fiddly bits and I'm no good with stuff like that. The fact that a shim can do it makes me wonder why Umarex doesn't include it in the standard. Mine cist me £200 and the silver £225 how come they're more expensive here than America ? Our pounds are worth more than their dollars yet they can purchase a gun for under a hundred pounds yet over here it's more than twice the price.. Hmmm..
this is the M712, not the C96, so it would be WWII era (post 1930), NOT 1918 as you said.
Thank you for sharing the info. Sorry for the confusion.
Does it come with an orange tip
Casey James get a can of spray paint dip shit
@@harleybooth3006 i was just fucking wondering asshat
@@caseyjames2073 Hey if it is a bb gun you do not need a orange tip but there are airsoft versions that have orange tips.
why would you want that ?...it wouldn't look real 😣
Does it take pellets or just bb’s
This one just shoots BB's.
The music is annoying!!
We've gotten better since this video. Appreciate the suggestion.
So the title says "Full Auto Air Gun Review", and still he never shoots it at full auto!
Makes you wonder if he worried about a messed up magazine catch, which according to the repair guys at Umerex, is this guns "Achilles Heel".
Notice @ 1:24 he tries to slam the mag in and it will not stay!
I phoned them today, and their head repair guy said that their main repair for this model is from people jamming in the clip too hard/fast and messing up the catch.
Notice that after that @ 3:09 he tends to "cradle" both the gun's frame and mag with both hands when firing.
Maybe he was worried about whether the super-glue he used to fix it would hold?
LOL. No super glue. David knows his history though.
@@UmarexAir this gun is a scam and you guys know it.
@@notafanofbusesoranyothertr513 I'm a bit late to this game, but are you so tilted that you're actively replying to this channel's comments on EVERY SINGLE COMMENT? Get a life dude.
@@Vigilant_Owl yea, I moved on. A comment like this takes me 30 seconds I guess. How pathetic of me. Enjoy thinking about your reply (tick tick tick :p )
Oh yea, the gun sucks. Do not buy!
Will this c96 work with the wooden stock ?
Yes it will. It helps improve accuracy in semi and full-auto mode and when your done shooting, just pull out the magazine and it fits inside the stock just fine with just a little modification with a Dremel tool or a file to make room for the selector switch. You can find replica stocks on Ebay for around $60.
@@manuelgass80 awesome will probably do that latef on
There is a slot for the stock, however keep in mind the frame is not steel and the tabs are thin, so it would probably wear and potentially break when force is applied
awesome gun
Sweet to shoot really enjoy mine.
Thanks for your support.
zu Lwowitz
Ever since I receive a M 712 from Umarex about 4,000 BBs ago , I was wandering about the claim of 360 FPS (on the box and everywhere ) since the couple of ‘wandering BBs at the beginning of my shooting escapades went clearly through the 1.5 inch wooden door at our bathroom . This feet couldn’t be reproduced by my other airgun SA 10 which claims a FPS of 430 - 440 . Both guns produce , at best , the same FPS -----shooting 5.4 gr steel Daisy BBs ( my SA 10 doesn’t like pellets of any kind or fashion )-----as futher velocity tests done with the same external condition ( including the time ) have shown . My contention is that FPS-----as one , if not the most , important stats for the customers-----should be taken much more seriously. The difference of almost 100 FPS shown above is clearly impossible to swallow and , thus , all reviewers ( including this one ) should start with chrono test . I believe that a lot of expensive misunderstanding could be thus avoided .
Agree with you. Important to note that the velo stated is off the first shot with a fresh CO2 cartridge in semi-auto
Umarax are power I have the brodax I shot a large lizard and when the pellet hit it ,it actually brush the lizard 3 inches away before it could even think to run.
Yikes.
i took a sasquatch with one of these 30 yards lit his ass up full auto @ Avocado lake California .
So you R the prick that shot at my old lady....
It really looks like a Mauser!
Good eye.
@@UmarexAir Thanks!
@@filipematias5127 your welcome
It’s co2?
That it is.
Agree this is a great-looking gun. In the UK ANY auto-fire gun is illegal, including this, so it is available ONLY as a single-shot pistol. Having an auto-fire gun in the UK could land you in jail for a few years.
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UK laws are actually retarded.
It's the 5-0 Come on man language, we don’t use words made to discriminate against mentally challenged people please
That's disappointing for sure.
Sir how much price?
I love the uk double standard where semi auto 400 fps metal BBs are absolutely fine, but if you want to just not have to pull the trigger for each shot it is completely banned. I bet if you brought this argument up to a politician though they'd have semi auto banned too. Sometimes I feel bad being a Briton.
Kitne callver ka hai
😶
Plastic? Made or metal
It its metal with faux wood grips.
Amazing gun!I bought two!
This will sell better soon for you,Resident Evil 4 remake is coming.
lol I still want one of these just because I played the original RE4.The original got Game of the Year,it might get it again and it's just a remake.
My dog is named after this gun.
Your dog must be a legend!
An Umarex legend?@@UmarexAir
Is it airsoft
This one is 177 caliber steel BB.
I searched to see this airgun in action, but ah djeez all action is in slowmotion, what were you thinking?
Obviously we weren't. 🤔
What are you talking about, he showed all the functions, including semi-auto, the clip’s bane, it’s just full auto in slomo (Which I see as demonstrating the action better than you could see it in real time)There’s other vids too. Be grateful there’s any good in this world at all, or you’d be seeing more of the real ones in action.
Cool
Super
German made ? No - it’s made by KWC in Taiwan for Umarex of Germany.
...the firearm, not the airgun.
Thats coooooooooooooooolllllllllllll
Stop the music
Pause! Kidding. We got better. 👍
You have not shown the main failing of this super fine replica. The main problem with this excellent pistol, is that it has no bolt/charge handle 'holdback' on last shot and can be fired on semi-auto and full auto with just gas because of that. It will carry on firing with no BB's in it. You might want to look at my vid @ th-cam.com/video/xmyRWg8O_MQ/w-d-xo.html . It is my modified M712 which has 'holdback' and will NOT fire without BB's in it. Mine stops firing on last shot in both semi-auto and full auto. It does not waste gas and you can then get 2-3 magazines worth from one CO2 capsule. I am aware it does need quite a bit of gas to throw that bolt/charge handle back and give it a very realistic recycling speed. IT IS STILL A SUPERB REPLICA THOUGH.
Good point. Thank you for sharing your video!
Does what it's supposed to do. Poor slowly my friend.
good tip
I know I'm a dick saying this, BuT tHaTs NoT a C96!!?!?
This fires at almost 400fps, so you could also use it as a self defense weapon
Not a good idea. What happens when you run out and there is a 6'2 druggie attacking you.
Not intended for that. Use it safely for recreational target shooting.
@@itsthe5-096 he'd be blind after the bb's destroy his eyes
Cant watch, bed music in appropriate, loud & masks voice..
Sorry about that. We've gotten better since 6 years ago when this one was made.
this gun is absolute trash. it looks cool, the weight is fantastic, but the construction is awful. the barrel is not secure so it jumps around on full auto. this gun has been around for years and they never bothered to fix this huge problem
yeah....i wish they'd make the top slide and barrel one piece 😩
Looks very SteamPunk!
The start or base of steampunk at least.
Except for the obnoxious writing all over the side.
Well, government this and that leads one to cover his this and that.
Is it accurate? Doing to shoot me rats
BB guns are not intended for this.
@@UmarexAir Just let the man do what he wants.
I've killed rabbits with mine....10 foot distance
lol
Hi Linda.