this video would've been better if there was a comparison test between the method shown, and just adding the same amount of gain normally, you could've also used phase cancellation between the 2 versions to isolate the differences, i'm really skeptical about the Pro Q3 gain boost being any "clearer" than normal. on a different note, camel crusher isn't limiting the audio it's just hardclipping the peaks of before it gets to the master, you can just use a hardclipper for that, the reason it sounds the same is because Ableton sensibly hard clips the matter anyway when you go over 0 db. but is a good idea to handle peaks earlier in the chain since it gives you more control over how they're handled.
The ProQ gain tip I got off another producer (I have a feeling TC mentioned it at some point but can’t be 100% sure it was) but when I’ve compared against the stock Ableton gain it’s sounded clearer to me - a comparison in this video definitely would’ve been a good addition, same with comparing just gain vs this method. However the camelcrusher prevents clipping, maybe saying it acts as a limiter isn’t exactly true in the conventional sense, but you can see this at 4:54 that even when it’s on 0% mix that it prevents the audio from redlining/going above 0db - which is what a limiter does. I’ve titled this is an unorthodox method for a reason - it does the job but I know not everyone will like it or agree with it
3:58 camel crusher wooo
I use that on my masters too! Ill also put a comp with a high atk before it to make the track dance! (Dance with the drums!!,)
And pro mb before all that for compressed lows
this video would've been better if there was a comparison test between the method shown, and just adding the same amount of gain normally,
you could've also used phase cancellation between the 2 versions to isolate the differences, i'm really skeptical about the Pro Q3 gain boost being any "clearer" than normal.
on a different note, camel crusher isn't limiting the audio it's just hardclipping the peaks of before it gets to the master, you can just use a hardclipper for that, the reason it sounds the same is because Ableton sensibly hard clips the matter anyway when you go over 0 db. but is a good idea to handle peaks earlier in the chain since it gives you more control over how they're handled.
The ProQ gain tip I got off another producer (I have a feeling TC mentioned it at some point but can’t be 100% sure it was) but when I’ve compared against the stock Ableton gain it’s sounded clearer to me - a comparison in this video definitely would’ve been a good addition, same with comparing just gain vs this method. However the camelcrusher prevents clipping, maybe saying it acts as a limiter isn’t exactly true in the conventional sense, but you can see this at 4:54 that even when it’s on 0% mix that it prevents the audio from redlining/going above 0db - which is what a limiter does. I’ve titled this is an unorthodox method for a reason - it does the job but I know not everyone will like it or agree with it
If you logic multi effects phat fx does the same clipping. Trick when set to init patch
Makes sense, Phat FX is what CamelCrusher/CamelPhat became since Apple bought Camel Audio
do you mix into these chains?
As in, do I use the methods shown in my own tunes?
I think he meant that if you have your master chain on when mixing or just turn it on after the track is finished