What does the Bible say about Tithing?
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- I realized I was wrong about Tithing, and decided to make this video to correct my errors.
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The problem with modern tithing is that it goes to people who were never chosen by God to be ministers. 99.99% of modern preachers/pastors do it as a source of income/career not actual calling and they always hear the voice of God when it comes to asking for money but they never hear the voice of God when someone is in need.
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John 14: 21- 23
hose who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me. My Father will love those who love me; I too will love them and reveal myself to them.
You maybe right in your observation and resentments but the truth here is as much as this command has received great criticism amongst believers and non, it is God's. So obedience to His word is better than sacrifice.
The taxes we pay to government, are not resourcefully used for needs if citizens but you mandatorily pay it then why should we question tithing, just follow the lead of Holy Spirit, its for your spiritual benefit. Stay blessed 🙏✌
Tithing is for the Israelites in the old testament.. Now church age, we are to support our true Christian borthers and sisters specially who gave their full life in spreading the word of God and taking care of who are truly in need.
@Jerry-vx2kj The levies did not have land. Most preachers today are wealthy so no they do not need a tithe. However in this time we are in known as Jacobs trouble. How is it you do not seem to know who Jacob is. The Germanic, Scandinavian, Celtic, Anglo-Saxon peoples. I mean this is internet age. Information flows freely as water from a stream.
And how did you know they are not chosen? Who made you a judge? What happened in the house of Eli, where Samuel was chosen? God cannot be mocked. Do the possible and let God do the impossible.
Lex, you had it right the first time. One of the problems with this presentation is the assertion that all 3 tithes were universal, eternal commandments. Biblical, systematic tithing was facilitated through ceremonial and civil ordinances under Mosaic Law. These existed to support the Old Covenant system of sacrificial atonement which is now obsolete. None of the tithing ordinances were amended to include money as a tithe deliverable. There's no such thing as a tithe received from earned wages that's paid to a religious organization. Not New Testament, or Old.
Another problem is that the book of Hebrews is about a change in Priesthood, not a change in tithing ordinances. No one can literally, materially "tithe to Jesus" today. He isn't physically here and now our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit. The metaphor of "tithing to Jesus" represents acknowledging him as our High Priest forever. It's not about paying money to a religious organization, although there's nothing wrong with doing so as a form of systematic giving.
1 Corinthians 9:13 says nothing about tithing. The comparison of those who spread the Gospel and the Levitical Priests is not a "how to" analogy, rather it places the importance of spreading the Gospel on the same level as that which the Priesthood served. Those who spread the Gospel are worthy of the support, financial or otherwise, but there's no connection there to how tithes were received under Mosaic Law and how ministers today are supported. The Priests only received 1/10th of the Levitical tithe and it was always consumable items. We support ministers by providing them wages and financial gifts from discretionary offerings. Today's version of tithing from earned wages bears no resemblance to the practice of biblical, systematic (required) tithing.
The narrative in the book of Malachi was limited within Israel (Malachi 1:1), and further narrowed towards the Levitical Priests in Malachi 1:6 and 2:1. The tithe indictments in Malachi 3 cannot be universally applied either historically or currently and they had nothing to do with money. So no, God isn't encouraging "us" to test him. It was an indictment to the Levitical Priests to carry out their full duty to bring all of the tithes rather than being selective in what they keep for themselves.
There's no biblical guide to any minimum or maximum set for giving money, to a church or otherwise, only that we give not grudgingly or under compulsion, as put forward in 2 Corinthians 9:7. Sorry, but the lies that were unlearned in the first video were reinstated with this one. Blessings.
This sums it rather nicely and very hard to refute. Sadly he's fallen into the religious dogma teachings for whatever reason and has jumped on the Malachi train of "robbing God" for not tithing horribly misapplying that verse but not unexpected. I'm hoping he sees the error of his ways if not mines well change the channel name to, RE-learn the lies!
@@bobbysworldroxand this is exactly the reason why we always need to read the word for ourselves.
I listened to this video yesterday and was going to post something very similar to what you just posted. So, now I don't have to. Great summary and Amen.
Thank you @markb7067 ❤
Furthermore I can sum it up rather easily as Jesus last words on the cross. "It is finished".
A tithe was NEVER money... It was always animals and agricultural harvests... (I made a video on this)
Actually you are directed to tithe all of your increase. What has God increased for you?
@@davedeponio4320 "..tithe all the increase of your grain that the field produces.." Deuteronomy 14:22
Where does it say an increase in money?
@@BurnYourIdols1not everyone is a farmer, so since our increase is now in currency we should tithe, if we didn't, there would be no churches, it costs money to have a building, and to run a church
@@liliesofthefield5310 Local churches/street preachers/etc. can be supported by freewill giving.
When YHWH gave that command was every Israelite a farmer?
@@davedeponio4320Tithing is to feed the poor only.
The levites had no inheritance, if you or any other pastor would like to give up your property that you own, your investments and retirement, or income from youtube, books, speaking engagements or the like that would be fine to expect a tithe and remember it was not money but a portion of things from the land. We follow the Law and there are some things that cannot be followed because no temple on earth exists today that we can bring it to. Churches are not the new temple with leaders being the new levites.
good point!
Bingo. You're absolutely right. Mandatory tithe proponents hardly ever talk about the law of tithing as it pertains to receipt and distribution of tithes. They only talk about the duties of the donors.
Money has been around even before the times of Abraham @@awomanwhoprays
@sharingmyloveforgod Although trading/bartering was in place back in ancient times, money currency was also. Joseph was sold by his brothers for 20 pieces of silver. Money was tithed to build Solomon's temple. Of course, there are more examples.
Also, churches are *Not* the Temple now - we ourselves are the Temple. We all make up one body.
@@awomanwhoprays how did our Messiah and His Discipled pay taxes? Anyway, you're getting hung up on the word 'church,' and not it's meaning. The actual meaning of 'church' is from the Latin 'circe,' which means "circus." Messiah's true assembly is His Body. Have a nice day
Please provide the example where the church gave or brought a tithe?
@geelamar3542 : They went much further, selling all they had and sharing in common so that no one had any need. Can't see any modern day worldly material Christians doing that! 🤯
You had it right the first time. Malachi was referring to the priest that started keeping the best for themselves. The Priest were the only ones allowed at the alter for the sacrifice. Only the sons of Aaron could be priest. There also was never any money exchanged or given as tithes or offerings. Paul also says to give out of the goodness of your heart, not reluctantly or out of compulsion. When he was talking about taking care of those in ministry, he was referring to giving, not tithing. When some Christians were demanding that the gentiles be circumcised, he basically told them that was the old law and not part of the new law. If you want to follow the old law then follow it wholly, not just the laws that you pick and choose. But then you are trying to negate everything Jesus did on the cross. The old law regarding tithes and offerings also demanded they be prepared and burned on an alter. So if you want to accept and preach tithes and offerings then you must fully comply with the rest of the requirements. You see, this is why the OT Law was fullfilled by Christian’s. The new commandments are now Love God and love one another, and to be a cheerful giver out of the goodness of your heart and not reluctantly or out of compulsion out of some law. Also, when Abraham gave a tenth of his spoils of war(not wages), he gave out of the goodness of his heart. He was not compelled by the priest or God. Also when the Israelites brought a 10th to the festivals, they didn’t give that 10th to the Levites. They ate it themselves and gave some of it to the Levites.
When people take Malachi out of context, they missed the wrath that God is directing towards the Priests. In fact, Malachi was written at the same time as Nehemiah. In Nehemiah, chapter 12, we read of the abuse by the Priests in regards to the storehouse.
I do not tithe as i no longer work due to my disabilities but i give over 10% of my monies that God has blessed me with as an offering to God every month.
That is still tithing and may God open the windows of Heaven and pour you out a blessing that you don’t have room enough to receive.
That's still a tithe. God bless you. You're tithing not by compulsion but by your love and obedience to the Lord. God bless you.
This is the heart God is looking for. Willing and obedient people. I started tithing and saw for myself how God has blessed me tremendously. I have not lacked a thing neither my family. His Word is true.
And you have already received your reward.
Well don't even think about a future reward because you have boasted your giving.Keep it secret (no one cares anyway), and God will reward you openly.
Can anyone provide one biblical scripture of New Testament Gentiles tithing; or the church tithing all three of the types of tithes?
Why are you trying to separate gentiles from Israelites? Thats your first issue, you can fall into many false doctrines with that idea. When you accept Christ you become a spiritual Israelite and are grafted in.
Please answer the question and dispense with what you think you know about me. Provide the scriptures where the church is tithing?
There is none, what there is in the book of acts is that the early disciples sold all their possessions and shared among them freely according to need.
@@2ndyeardrummer I responded to that very objection and your response to my objection is to respond with the very same objection I already refuted?
@@xintimidate I have no idea what you mean by that, have a blessed day and don’t let my response to a question upset you.
I'm sorry lex I love you but you are erroneously teaching something here that was specified to be for the Levites.
I love your ministry and would support you in a heartbeat wherever I can because I believe you mostly teach truth but don't do this, this would be adding to the word shalom.
My question is this: it would appear there has been a distinction made between clergy and laity. The clergy compared to the levites, and the laity the rest of Israel, however, how would we reconcile this next scripture?
“and He has made US to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father-to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.” Rev 1:6 NASB1995
secondly, if we are to interpret scripture with scripture, the tithing was of the produce of the land, (Lev 27:30) it was never money? How is this to be reconciled?
This teacher did Olympics scripture gymnastics to make this fit his narrative. Most preachers that teach is are directly influenced because it's their main source of income. I saw this video and he took many scriptures out of context to make it seem like it adds up.
If the ancient Israelites didn't start paying tithes in the wilderness until they got to the promised land, then why are we to pay when we are not even living on the land? I believe we are to give according to what the Holy Spirit instructs us to give to others.
Guilt should never be a motivation for determining doctrine. “Tithing” in this way is a return to “keeping the law.” It causes so many negative results and even keeps people from entering into a relationship with Yeshuah.
Abraham tithed of war spoiks,a one time event and there is no scripture that demands that anyone should go ye and do likewise
I will continue to work for a living and offer my online ministry for free. In my opinion Pastors and ministry workers should humbly accept donations but not expect someones tithe. I would suggest to anyone If it’s on you’re heart to give then give at any amount as a cheerful giver. Don’t fall back into the guilt trap of tithing. Can you Imagine if your father shook u down for 10% of your allowance and then said your a sinner if you don’t give it back? A loving Earthly Father would never do this let alone your Heavenly Father. This simply cannot be the case nor can it be applied today as it was in the Levitical system. The answer today is indeed simply be generous and surely you will reap what you sow. I have not tithed in many years and haven’t felt guilt nor have I been cursed financially. On the contrary I’m blessed beyond measure in so many areas and give myself away in total freedom.
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@@chris_2208 thx, you won’t be disappointed.
I decided not to accept honorarium when invited to preach unless I absolutely have to just to mKe the trip possible.
Well, the second sin ever committed was inappropriate tithing by Cain.
Ur math and reasoning are backward!! A father who GAVE YOU say $100 then ask “only” 10 bucks back is a pretty LOVING father!! But keep hording😊
How many of you have been tithing for years but still have empty rooms in your house? When scripture said “if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing” do we not understand it said “A BLESSING”? It never said blessings. That blessing was rain, nothing else. Not money, wife, husband, car, house, children, etc.
“And I will rebuke the devourer”. We should go ask any farmer whether isn’t is the devil that destroys their crops or pests.
Malachi 3:10-11
10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
11 And I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your ground; neither shall your vine cast her fruit before the time in the field, saith the LORD of hosts.
How anyone can read this and interpret it as giving 10% of their money is shocking. We think God protects us, blesses us because we give him 10%?
These religious leaders will make it say exactly what they need it to say.
I'm having a hard time finding someone to explain to me how exultant praise is 'worship'. How we call spiritual music 'worship' music.
Romans 12:1 is also poorly translated. Everything we do isn't worship. Worship (prostration) is worship.
Latreian / Avodah is best translated as service.
But it is convenient for them to say "Come to church to worship."
@@thecatalysm5658 The root of the problem is they were indoctrinated and taught lies at the seminaries. Unfortunately, most of them have not tried to verify and seek for the truth for themselves. They keep holding on to these lies.
@@thecatalysm5658 You are right.
i do not agree, i think you are reading into the text. Holy things are holy and you do not get to tweak it to fit a perspective. Some things are only meant for where He places His name, Jerusalem, and you cant decide that you will do it somewhere else. The Levites are God's portion of the people and are not to be confused with pastors, who have no connection. Gifts are fine to whoever you wish to gift, but tithes are a different matter. All three of your text scripture is still within the gates of where God puts his name.
Don't mix the holy.
Can i do Passover here in Orlando where I live? No, I can do a remembrance meal but not Passover, Why? Because you can only do it within the area of the Temple just like when Judah was in captivity they placed a shank bone of a lamb on the plate, not the meat of the lamb. Same thing with Tabernacles, you cant do it here, you can remember it, but not call it Tabernacles. People who are weak in the teachings will start doing things as if it were the actual law, and its not, and they will be confused.
We are commanded to keep the holy days, period.
You are guilty of doing the very thing you accuse Lex of doing.
People always use Abraham as a backup ploy as well as the old chestnut "tithing preceded the law". Abraham tithed very occasionally it wasn't monthly. Tithing is only relevant to the OLD Covenant Israelites and Levites, not modern day Christians. I have no conviction to tithe at all. I GIVE freely and without being guilt tripped by covetous pastor's who love money more than Jesus.
I started tithing because my wife is a faithful tither and even when we are struggling we seem to have enough money for everything. God gives you enough of what you need.
Amen. I have been doing it for years and have seen the blessings of God as promised in Malachi. Let every man be fully convinced in his own mind.
Hallelujah! It’s worked the same for me as a single woman & now 5 years into our marriage it’s worked for our little family!
"I started giving because my wife is a faithful generous giver and even when we are struggling we seem to have enough money for everything. God gives you enough of what you need." There, I fixed it for you. You were never under the Old Covenant (and never will be). You are under the New Covenant.
Just because GOD is gracious to bless us for what we give. Doesn't mean that it's biblical to teach as a mandate. It's up to us as believers to give as HE has prospered us and as we have purposed in our heart.
I would ask any of you to show me 3 new testament scriptures that COMMAND tithing?
I thought if the journey was too far you can exchange for money to use for yourselves was the "first tithe", 10% tithe, to use in a different manner because going to the feast days and celebrating was more important than not being able go at all and couldn't pay any tithe at all anyways.
And there was no mention of the "first fruits" tithe.
Only animals and grains raised from within the promised land were acceptable as tithes.
Only farmers of animals and/or grains were required to tithe, and the would only tithe from the increase over the previous year.
The Messiah, the disciples, blacksmiths, and other common trades didn't tithe, nor were they required to tithe.
Currency was strictly forbidden to be used as a tithe. What you're referring to is the requirements for the farmers of animals and/or grains raised from outside the promised land because it was too far to travel with the tithe, let alone the fact they weren't acceptable as a tithe from outside of the promised land. They would sell them and use the money for whatever their heart desires, they and their entire household were to spend it all and celebrate with it in Jerusalem, not given or used for a tithe at the temple.
Giving isn't equal to tithing and is an entirely separate act of love. Giving cheerfully from the heart is what we taught to be doing, not tithing.
Then there's the argument also with regards to when people give to a church through a false doctrine, barely any of it ends up going to those who need it. Instead, it's wasted on creature comforts such as air-conditioning, carpeting, salaries, insurance, trips, vehicles, paper, computers, stage equipment, lighting for the stage, cameras, and countless other unnecessary things while the poor and needy continue without.
Paul was a tentmaker, and would never take money from the communities of God. The disciples gathered together in homes and reached out to the world with the gospel of Messiah Yeshua through their everyday lives and travels with personal relationships and faith to continue to live Torah truthfully as it's written and where it's possible to accomplish. Tithing can no longer be accomplished without the temple, but giving cheerfully from the heart can be practiced.
I appreciate the video. I’m still in agreement with your original as this video was very far from convincing, especially the aspect of recognizing preachers as Levites.
Shalom
Show me one place in the scriptures where tithing was money.
Remember kane and abel, one of them wanted to gave Yahweh what he did not ask for and the sacrifice was refused by Yahweh, now here you are asking people to give what Yahweh did not ask for.
Back in the biblical days, they didn't have the cash money like we do now. They've paid with animals, silver, gold, gifts and their services.
@@slimdude2011 the instruction in the bible for persons who live far away and their tithe is too much to travel is to sell their tithe (livestock), take it to the place where the name of Yahweh is, buy back their equivalent with the money from the market place, take it to the synagogue; therfore, there was money, additionally tithe was ALWAYS, something to eat.
@@slimdude2011In Luke 18:12 there was plenty of money. But ktaomai was used and not misthos or opsonion. Huh.
@@slimdude2011money was prevalent in the temple ,otherwise why did Jesus have to run them out and overurn their money tables
@@slimdude2011Mark12:41 shows there was money available for offering in the temple.
Tithe is separate as this is in reference to farm crops.
Is it that you would take 10 % for your church or ministery and another 10 for the feast days and another for seniors a total of 30% set aside or how would this work mathematically
Ancient Israel didn't have a modern welfare system of taxes. Most Americans pay an average of 15 to 35 percent of his or her money in the form of a graduated tax system.
Ancient Israel had a 23.3 percent tax system of tithes.
Give according to how God leads you in the New covenant. 2 Corinthians 9:7.
Therefore, most people have the ability to receive some unemployment if they have a job loss, police, and fire protection. Of course property taxes that pay for public schools etc.
I believe in tithing and we need some guidance here. The third tithe is to be taken in the third year so in that year 30% should be set aside?
Should a farmer tithe on their gross or net income LoL strain at knats. Some yrs can loose money. What then ? It's a matter of the heart. Not the letter of the law. Some winder if tithe should be on their 401K. LoL. Cheat , steel , lie, be covtousness ( call it good lol) the worry about tithing. Lol. Yeh maybe be like the rich young ruler. Stop trusting worldly wealth..Sell 'all : - give to the poor. And start trusting and ttuelly following the real JESUS. and really make HIM the true LORD of ourselves. Solar eclipse in April. Forms Captal "A" over all North Americia..WAKE up is this the beginning of the.7 yr transition. To the next 1000 yrs. What is this yr this fall etc going to bring. Yet some worry about their 401 K LoL
Should the quarterly growth of an IRA/401k, or any other investment growth/increase be tithed now, or wait until retirement to tithe?
Hi, may I know the difference between Tithes, Offerings and Pledges? I came across a church where the 3 is required. Just visited the church once and did not come back anymore.
I follow 2 Corinthians 9:6-7. It did not mention about Tithes and Offerings but it's about being a cheerful giver. God sees our hearts in giving... reminds me about the poor widow who put a coin in the offering box. Jesus is looking at the heart. It's not about the amount...
Biblical, systematic (required) tithing was facilitated under Mosaic Law through ceremonial and civil ordinances, like a tax. Those ordinances are now obsolete. Under the New Covenant, no compulsory tithing is mentioned, but there's nothing wrong with practicing tithing as a form of systematic giving. Offerings and pledges are voluntary unless required by the religious institution. Giving is encouraged in the Bible, especially to the poor, but we are to give cheerfully, not under compulsion.
It's truly amazing to behold a teacher of the Bible to admit they were wrong about one of their teachings. Blessings.
Thank you for this video. I have a question in relation to (1 Cor 9:13) may be you may explain more. Suppose we are a church with more than 1 pastor, how can one give a their tithes. For example we have an Apostle, 3 or 4 local church pastors, we also have deacons and other people who serve in the house God.
How should the tithes be given
I want to encourage you, that your humility in searching out the truth in this matter is of benefit to the body. There is a video on our channel which I hope will aid in your pursuit. I would post a link but TH-cam would autovet it and you would never see it. The video is calleed 'The Ma'aser'. I will post a link in a separate comment which you can find, now being aware of it.
Should we continue to give even though they're not preaching the truth?
Please advise. 🙏
Find a church that does preach the truth
@@unlearnthelies
Where?
Cornerfringe ministries
What happened? You had it right the first time.
You are right brother.
And plus if his new point of vue was correct, we shall find it into Paul’s teachings instead of “offerings not under compulsion”
@@MANYHUNTERSTV Exactly.
He realized that things aren't moving as fast as he'd liked to he switched over to the tithing crowd 😆
When people who are not practising Christians make comments condemning good teaching for tithing, it is annoying. How do you pay the wages of those who serve at the altar? Doesn't a workman deserve his wages?
@@josephdanquah313 It's the requirement part of it that's the problem. People who tithe must understand that they do it out of desire and not compulsion. There's a lot more to the Law than just how giving should be done. Hence Paul stating that it should not be done out of compulsion.
When people give to a church through a false doctrine of tithing, barely any of it ends up going to those who it was intended for, which is what the tithe did before the death of the Messiah. Instead, it's wasted on creature comforts such as air-conditioning, carpeting, salaries, insurance, trips, vehicles, paper, computers, stage equipment, lighting for the stage, cameras, and countless other unnecessary things while the poor and needy continue without.
Paul was a tentmaker, and would never take money from the communities of God. The disciples gathered together in homes and reached out to the world with the gospel of Messiah Yeshua through their everyday lives and travels with personal relationships and faith to continue to live Torah truthfully as it's written where it's possible to accomplish. Tithing can no longer be accomplished without the temple, period, but giving cheerfully from the heart can still be practiced just as it was then.
And to be totally transparent and truthful to what scripture presents, God addressed issues that were even developing with the priests in scripture misusing the tithes and not obeying God's Torah. Shouldn't we too be diligent like the Bereans to be careful not to manipulate and distort what God has established in HIS Torah for our own gain.
Sad to see Lex return to manmade false doctrines.
Totally agree !👌
Great video. I saw your first video and I appreciate your maturity and encouragement to work this topic out on TH-cam.
I don't know what to think yet, tithes were never about "gold" or some sort of currency.
Take a merchant for example.....
He had 100 sheeps, he gave the tithe of 10 out of those 100, but the remaining 90, he sold 40 and kept 40..... he had already gave the "tithe" of the "produce of the earth", the tithe was never meant to come from "the money from the sheeps you sold"
I'll use the phrase again, "produce of the earth", in other words, totally free for us from God's pocket, so he demands that 10% out of the 100% he gave you for free....
Tithes comes from the produce of the earth which was also used to sell and negotiate and turn into money.
Nowadays we only work for money, and a few barely get produce of the earth for free.
The world itself has turned the economy system upside down so that we depend on our money for everything and to have the right to earn money you depend of the government and whatever...
The world's economic system has stripped us of "the produce of the earth" in order to steal from us the opportunity to "tithe" correctly, if at all.
The topic remains one of the most difficults to explain and understand because the more people study it the more they confirm that "back then" the tithes came from your "working of the earth" by planting, breeding etc....
But now we dont work the earth to get our things, we work someone else's business to get currency but that doesnt necesarily qualify "currency" as a fund to tithe from.
And thats without going in deeper to the "land of abundance"....
God gave Israel a land that would produce "abundance" and from that abundance they were expected to tithe from said abundance.
If back then I lived in a desert and a land of scarcity that can barely grow anything and could only live by with earning gold, from where would I tithe?
So you see,.... tithes where asked from people who were blessed with the land to get those tithes from....
The excuse nowadays would be.... "God blessed you a job that earns currency, so tithe from it"... but that.... really sounds as an abusive and misleading idea.
Now, if I have a garden.... and a farm.... and can "earn free things" from the earth, then by all means I should give all those tithes to the poor the widows, the stranger and even the preachers so that they can eat and live and keep preacing, not tithe them enough to get them a mansion or a jet....
Tithes are meant to help those in need, material and spiritual not to fill the pockets of preachers with corruptible things that will stay on the earth and persish with it.
I'm still more sided to your first video than this one, and the weird thing is that this one has more than enough info to make the first one even more valid.
What we as body of Christ, our high priest should be doing is to "buy" things with our currency that helps others in need.... buy the food, water, clothes, shelter, help them get the tools so they can work too etc....
But by putting money in the hands of someone who "might" use it to satisfy the flesh instead of the spirit we are not really helping them, we are spoiling them.....
Want to donate $10,000?? DO IT!!!
But there's a big difference between giving $10,000 dollars to a family that just lost their home due to a forestal fire and to a preacher which used the money as a downpayment for a luxury car which he deserved because he works hard in thr ministy.....
Where would God's heart be? Helping those in need or satisfy the flesh of someone who's mind is set on worldly curriptible things.....
Earrn treasures in heaven, not in earth.
Thats just my opinion though, God bless you all
Ever try to pay the electric bill with a lamb today? How about the gas bill with chickens?? Currency today is a “bit” different than then🤦🏽… I love having a warm church here in CO in the winter! How is the church suppose to get that… but it amazes me how many “so-called” Christian’s work harder at not paying than having Faith!!(Heb 11:6)
Ever try to pay the electric bill with a lamb today? How about the gas bill with chickens?? Currency today is a “bit” different than then🤦🏽… I love having a warm church here in CO in the winter! How is the church suppose to get that… but it amazes me how many “so-called” Christian’s work harder at not paying than having Faith!!(Heb 11:6)
WOW!!!!!!!!!!YOU JUST KICKED A HORNETS NEST. I agree with your previous video (no tithe) but I am new to Torah, I will pray on this. Good luck with your following.
Rather, "good luck with all that" trying to place new covenant believers under any part of the law of Moses, "Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?" (Galatians 3:3). "I testify again to every man who is circumcised that he is obligated to keep the WHOLE LAW. (see Galatians 5:3,). "Messiah is the end of the law unto righteousness for everyone who believes." (Romans 10:4).
Paul, Peter, and other disciples didn't teach tithes.. Please stop misusing Gods word. We suppose to give in love, love has no percentage.
Lex, did you remove the discipleship videos? I was following the series and suddenly I cant't find them anymore, que pasa
It’s in a playlist on my channel
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How often should we tithe?
Does the Scripture teach monthly tithing?
do you get paid once a month? If so then yes. Paid once a week? Then tithe once per week.
@@jonwick5824
Huh?🤔
So Give us a Scripture about thites that God said , is a Must payment to contribute when you earn a Salary ❓
@@Family-pj4zm Malachi 3:10 (NKJV) “Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” Says the Lord of hosts, “If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.”
@Family-pj4zm andd6 Matthew 22:21. Render unto Ceasar... I don't feel like looking it up, copying and pasting, so check it out. Give Ceasars what is Ceasars; which is the government and render unto God what is God's
No money tithe is taught in the scriptures
Lex,
Bless you and all of us seeking truth. It is my heart's desire that we can have an contextual biblical discussion.
My problem with this teaching is that God said in Numbers 18:8 that the tithe was an " ordinance forever". Being a Levite is a bloodline call. It appears that you reasoned into your conclusion that the ministers wages are also to be called a tithe.
Paul rightly days that those who preach the gospel shall live from the gospel. He did not say that they are receiving of the ordinance that was granted to the Levites forever. I can't get past God saying " all the tithes" of the children of Israel forever. From Numbers 18:8-12 He keeps saying, "all."
In verses 8 & 19 "as an ordinance forever." He made it known that it is His and He is giving it to them and theirs forever. Paul never calls it a tithe or a tenth in 1 Corinthians. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Does he assign a percentage at all?
When I saw this title I went into anxiety. Have I been wrong also? I don't yet see that we missed God. The tithe forever belong to the Levites, Aaron and His sons. The ministers are too be taken care of from those who receive.
The 'care for the widow, the orphan and the stranger' is a forever command also.
@@alexanderkapsiotis8050 Yes, but there is not cap at how much of your produce you should provide them.
@@klimraamkosie The minimum is 10% once every 3 years. We can give more and at any time obviously.
This is a bit disappointing compared to previous video. This is like re-learning the lies. I respect your views. I think you didn't employ the timelines/covenants/generations.
In the New Testament, we are all Levites or priests in the kingdom. You are trying to put new wine in the old wine skin
I’m still learning, so please bare with me. It was my understanding that the Levites were tithed half a scheckle, not 10%. What percentage should be put away for the feast? My guess is that it depends how much you want to celebrate. The tithe of the third year was to be 10% of you increase. What constitutes an increase? How do we equate monetary tithes to animals or produce. It says the tenth is for the Father. If you only have 9 sheep you don’t tithe your sheep, if you have 19 you would only tithe 1 and if you had 21 you would tithe two and so on…
Watch "what is tithing" from David Croteau ... most importantly, read the whole OT & NT... we are called to be generous... but tithing is alot different feom what is preached. Let the Bible & Holy Spirit guide you.
Is that like approximately 1/3 each? And I work at a church but don't believe in their doctrine so who do I give that portion to? Can it be an online "church"?
LEX, I KNOW YOU ALREADY KNEW THE "BACKLASH" YOU WOULD GET FOR DOING THIS REVISION, AND NO DISRESPECT INTENDED TO EVERYONE THAT HOLDS TO AN OPPOSING VIEW, I WANT TO =THANK YOU= FOR SPEAKING WHAT YOU FEEL IS =TRUE= AND =CORRECTING= WHAT YOU FEEL IS ERROR.... ==REGARDLESS== OF THE BACKLASH YOU KNEW YOU WOULD RECEIVE.... THANK YOU.
People changing their position doesn’t make them right. Even the Apostle Peter fell into the hypocrisy of changing his position about the Gentiles under the pressure of his Jews peers, and Paul had to rebuke him in public.
@@crf744I’ve been here before. I think it’s best to give the teacher in this case the benefit of the doubt. I don’t buy in to his teaching on this at all. I also am trying to avoid taking offense at causing a backlash when trying to point out an error. I guess this is social media after all.
Its not a backlash when someone is making error ,,, Obvious we have people who read the bible also ,,, You can't make a video that has lots on incorrect information and then expect everyone to clap for you
You overstepped calling it a sin. Paul’s writings never said it was a sin to not give to the ministry of the gospel. He was saying they were worth it, which is different than a sin by not tithing to an actual priesthood. The PRIESTS are different from ministries because they can work, they can buy land. I mean you’re in ministry and you are making TH-cam money so is it a sin to not give to you? Should I stop clicking on your videos so I don’t sin when I don’t pay you?
In Leviticus 27 God explicitely mentions money (silver shekel) to be given from the Israelites when vows are concerned. So, money was acceptable to God as a mean to redeem vows. Why is it not mentioned in relation to tithing? Is it possible that tithing was only meant for „living things“ to whom‘s „living“ man did not contribute at all. God gives life, whether it is animal life or produce from the soil He made. Money is dead and its origin is often enough from probably questionnable work or industry. Just a thought. Not sure, it makes sense. Why would money be acceptable to redeem from a vow…?
Money could not be accepted as a tithe of the land
@Bayou Country. I tried to answer hut the stream ended.. But the word tithe means a tenth. Hope this helps.
Brother Lex, God has never commanded us nowhere in the bible to apply a principle on obeying His commandments. The bible tells us in Proverbs 3:5, to lean not on our own understanding. This is what always gets us into trouble with God. We apply our own principles to His holy scriptures instead of simply obeying Him. When we apply a principle on a commandment then we actually change the commandment itself. Giving IAW 2 Corinthians 9:6-7 is what we should be doing brother and cheerfully at that. The video you taught previously was perfectly fine because you were simply teaching the holy scriptures in their true context and did not add to them like you are doing now. I am not going to lie; what you said sounded really good; but it adds to the word of God. I have no issue with members supporting their local church building, fellow saints or even their church leaders. Please keep this in mind thought, the bible says in 2 Thessalonians 3:10, if a man does not work then he does not eat. Everyone who has the ability to get a job/career should work to earn their wages. Now if they want to go full time in the ministry and be supported by their members then it must be done in the form of freewill giving and not from tithes of money, which is no such law according to the bible. Apostle Paul was a tent maker. Jesus was a carpenter. All of the Apostles had jobs/careers. None of them demanded anyone to give them tithes of money because there is no such commandment. Everywhere you see in the holy scriptures that reference tithing is referring to food or goods. Not money and they had money during Jesus time in the flesh all the way back during Abrams time. The bible is not even clear on what other tithes Abram gave to the Lord even though we know he kept His laws and decrees, Genesis 26:5. The only thing we know is he gave a tenth to Melchezedek (A type of Christ). But, he also gave the other 90% to his soldiers and kept nothing for himself. There are many pastors out there who work regular jobs and does not require their members to support them through tithing and their ministries are being well supported through freewill offerings (IUIC, etc.). But, if church members want to support their local church leaders then I don't see anything wrong with it as long as their leaders are not telling them they must do so. To tithe money today, you would have to apply a principle, which is a violation of Deuteronomy 4:2, and Revelation 22:18-19. Abraham's, Isaac's and Jacob's tithe all ties into the nation of Israel being established later. In fact, the last commandment given concerning the tithes of food was for them to go to the Levites who also had to give a tithe. Then you had the festival tithe and the tithes for the poor. Guess what? They were food, which had to be eaten or stored away for later in the storeroom inside the Temple. God penalized those who wanted to redeem (buy back with money) their tithes by charging them 1/5 in money. When you change the tithes from food to money, you simply change the law, which is a direct violation of Deut. 4:2 and Revelation 22:18-19. Those who does so knowingly will have their place in the lake of fire. Lex, I have seen you and 119 Ministries change your stances on tithing when you had it right the first time. Stand on exactly what the law of God says concerning the tithe (food) and not allow someone to influence you otherwise. I heard someone who I dearly respect say we don't have farmers today so this is why we give money for tithes. Actually, we do have farmers today and none of them give tithes off of their livestock and they are still prospering and not cursed with a curse, per Malachi 3:9. These are the people who the grocery stores get their food to sell to their customers from. Lex, the tithe was food and not money and they had money back then, which started from Abrams day all the way to today's time. Tithes were never money. They were always food, which was last commanded to be given to the Levites. We cannot identify who a Levite is today. So we use money today in the form of freewill giving, which I highly encourage.
I think you are correct that tithing is still necesarry, but I think when you don't have livestock or a farm it is very difficult to translate this to what the law actually requires. In my opinion tithing shows that we are depending on God for a bountiful harvest and give back from the land. It makes only sense that if you don't own land, it should be your income, because if you did own land and give out 10% isn't that exactly the same as giving 10% of your income? If you read the whole bible about about giving, 10% should be an embarrassing low amount if we only should give that. It is however a trend I think within churches to find the bare minimum. Should we tithe? Is it necessary? Should we still celebrate the feast or is it not necessary? I see less and less believers asking what more we can do to show our love instead of finding out what we don't have to do anymore! We should have a heart of giving and find out in the end that we gave out like 25% percent of our blessings. Thank you Lex for this message!
The Law says that _anything_ that can qualify as income is to be tithed. Ppl subscribe to the extremely false notion that it can only be crops or livestock, but Gen. 14 shows Abraham tithing battle spoils.
Tithing is not necessary. Where is your Jewish temple in Jerusalem to send it and where are the levites in that temple to recieve it
@@theeternalsbeliever1779you need to actually read your Bible you missed it by a mile
Was Abraham commanded to give a tithe? Scriptures only show this was the only time Abraham tithe after a battle . Also what did He do with the remaining 90 percent? Then follow His example all the way and don’t pick just part of it.
Lex do we need to tithe on every month income we make or once a year for the ministry?
I am new to your channel. I subscribed because you were humble enough to admit you were wrong and courageous enough to make it public. Thank you.
So should we give the ministers grain and milk? because the tithes no where in scripture is ever money. Sir I don't know what happened since the first tithing video, but you are absolutely wrong in this teaching. You are trying to bend the scripture to satisfy your own desire. We must rightly divide the Word of God not try to make it fit our agenda.
We aren't obligated by a mandatory money tithe to keep up a church building or ministers.offerings are for that purpose
Dang dude. Pump the brakes. If you got everything so figured out. Why don't I and everyone else know who you are?
I am Suresh from India I praise our God yehovah through Jesus for your frankness and admitting truth.❤
So if you don't belong to a church. Where do the tithes go?
@@user-bf4xd3es7o a ministry of God and the poor... even though you can't find a church that you are 100% in agreeance with we are called to have corporate worship...please try to find a local church to fellowship with
🗨 Michelle 🗨 This is one of the reasons I'm a little intrigued by those who can't make a stand to join a church. If you feel there's none out there for your particular beliefs, why not start your own denomination, or at least a ministry. This way no need be confused over the matter.
If this suggestion might not be an option for you, then consider paying tithe to a church denomination you feel most comfortable with.
We know that God delights in a cheerful giver and your contributions won't go unnoticed by God.
Happy tithe giving! 😇
🗨 Suresh 🗨 Yes, it's so good that Lex is willing to acknowledge if he was wrong. I believe he's sincere in his teachings and wants to share the truth only.
Do you do all three at the same time?
Do widows need to tithe? Any scripture on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
No one "needs to tithe" We are not under the law, but under grace. (see Romans 6:14). "Messiah is the end of the law unto righteousness for everyone who believes." (see Romans 10:4) "I do not nullify the grace of God. for if righteousness comes by the law, then Messiah died in vain." (see Galatians 2:21). As a new covenant believer, you can disregard any teaching that places laws or any condition on the believer, including this teaching placing new covenant believers back under tithing. The new covenant, that began at the cross (see Hebrews 9:16-17), is unconditional, as the law, along with all its conditions and rules, was nailed to the cross in the body of Jesus. "He blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us and contrary to us, and He took it out of the way, nailing it to the cross." (Colossians 2:14). "And having disarmed authorities and powers, He made a show of them openly, triumphing over them by the cross." (Colossians 2:15). So the devils, authorities and powers, were defeated, and DISARMED by the cross. But when teachings like the one posted above by "Unlearn the Lies" on tithing, place people back under any part of the law, that was nailed to the cross, the teachings like the one above, are rearming the Enemy with the law, and the "ministry of condemnation and death." (see 2 Corinthians 3:7-9). You were called to freedom! (see Galatians 13). Stand fast in your freedom, purchased with a price. Don't let anyone, including the person who posted this teaching on mixing covenants, mislead you. Jesus told us you can't put new wine into old wine skins. You can't put any part of the law on a believer who is in the covenant of the Spirit. It's evidenced by your question about "widows need to tithe?" that you need to know there are no conditions in the new covenant, and there is now, therefore, "no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." (Romans 8:1).
Thank you for revisiting this important topic. I’ve watched your previous video about tithe a few times and though I agreed with some of what you said, I questioned the rest. You obviously learned or discovered more since and I admire you for admitting and correcting an error. We’re always learning. My advise to those who are unsure or don’t agree with tithing, just ask yourself how much is God worth to you?
God Bless
More than money.
How much is God worth to you? lol. You really don't understand what salvation is. I suggest for you to really take the time to study why we need a savior. If you do that then go back and read your comment and you will see how wrong your statement really is.
More than an obligated 10%. He loves a cheerful giver.
I guess I can't justify doing anything else but giving all I have to my church. I will sell my house and car asap...
I have to say that this is by far one of the dumbest comments I have ever seen on the issue of tithing. The idea you think someone is to give according to how much God is worth to them is insane. We are clearly taught in the Bible that Jesus paid a debt that we could not ever pay. Your comment leads to salvation being earned and you don't even realize it. This is the problem with many Christians. You come up with something that sounds good but not think about where it logically leads too. Stop with phrases that have a decent sound to it. They do more damage than good
I believe you’re still a little off. Yes we should give to church to pay for the staff and the building, and to others or charities to help those in need. But that’s not the same thing as a tithe as it’s defined in today’s church world (ie 10% of your wages). We can and should also give or “sow” in non-financial ways as well, like giving our time and talents/trades/skills. But upholding the concept of required tithes is legalism chipping away at the completeness of Jesus’s sacrifice.
The believers in Acts gave all their belongings and money to the apostles. Were they being legalistic by chipping away at the completeness of Jesus’s sacrifice?
@@alexanderkapsiotis8050 No, because those who did did so by choice. It was not a requirement nor was it described as normative. Giving by free personal choice in order to help those in need in the church and community seems to have been far more typical than those who sold everything they owned in Acts and the Epistles. But there was no requirement as even Paul described how he and others continued to work to meet their own needs at times rather than expecting or demanding financial support from all the churches or communities they ministered to. Paul even warned of false or predatory teachers who would make financial demands upon the church or community. Giving by choice is at best “good fruit.” It is not required for salvation attainment/maintenance, church membership/standing, nor sacramental/ritualistic purposes in the NT.
So should I tithe 2/3's to the church then 1/3 to the poor? or tithe to the church only in hope's the church is doing their part in giving to the poor? or 10% to the church and 3.33% to the poor?
13.33% per year is the modern equivalent. You should save the second tithe for your family's development, or just use it for attending the yearly feasts.
You are free to GIVE WHAT YOUR HEART DESIRES UNDER NO COMPULSION
Follow the New Testament directions for giving not the Lord's directions for Israel when they were in the promised land. Be a Berean and look at what the scriptures say.
Serious question. Do we deduct the 10 percent of our ENTIRE income before we pay our bills. Or do we deduct 10 percent of what is left over after our bills are paid? would just like a few second opinions on this.
I treat tithing as a bill so I tithe 10% of my entire income
@@cynialewis8020 thank you for your reply!
Tithing was an Old Testament measure based on the law, for Israel. The New Testament of grace (not Old Testament law) of giving is 2 Corinthians 9:7.
2 Cor seems so clear!!!! I wonder about all the scriptural gymnastics...
Yes !👌
So what is the Biblical math on tithing ? 10% for your church, 10% for feasts and 10% for widows and fatherless. That is 30% of your income. Or is it 10% in total and divide it by 3, keeping the one for the poor and handing it out once every three years. Like how do you put this into your budget? Anyone please respond.
You forgot to factor in Bidens 40%
@@ronnieturner1356Government's closer to 60%, so you get to keep 10%! Congrats. :)
@@thecatalysm5658 [Jhn 9:4 KJV] 4 I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.
@@thecatalysm5658 Taxes on taxes I know I just rounded to 40% It's alot more Sad thing is we get very little for all the taxes and if you add the poor man's tax = inflation you can see why nobody wants to work.
First and foremost you must understand that this tithing was and never was intended to be paid with money and it wasn't an income based tax ,in fact only landowners who raised farm produce and or herds from the promised land were required to even bring this tithe of produce
Thank you for putting out this video Lex! I watched your previous video and tithed anyway, so at least here you did not lead me astray. Reading Randy Alcorn's book Managing God's Money really put things into a very different perspective for me. Now my goal is to one day live off of 10% and to give 90% to churches, charities, the poor, the widowed, and the orphaned. If it's God's Will, it will happen😃🙏
thank you for this video! I think some examples would be good though as I am a little unsure about some things like are you supposed to put a separate 10% away for every tithe (ex. 10% to your minister, 10% to savings for feast days throughout the year, and then if its the third year 10% to those in need? and if so is that 10% of your total income or what is left after the other 20% went to ministers and feast days) these may not even be possible to answer with the amount of information we are given at this time but if there was some kind of real world example that could be shown that would be very beneficial I believe to those who are interested and want to try and make the right decision. Thank you again!
Really wonderful video! Your humility is appreciated and admired...thank you for your teachings. I really, really appreciate them!
I think you just unlearned the correct understanding of tithe.
So most years were at 20% tithe and each third year either the “church” has no money, we have no money for feasts, or we’re at 30% tithe. Doesn’t add up
20% each year and an extra 10% every three years. Averages out to 23.3%.
Lex, You are waffling on an admittedly difficult issue. I have listened to you for advise, and as one that has continued to learn and struggle, I wish with brotherly love, to share this: Make up your mind to do what is right and pleasing to the lord.
Makes 100% sense for Torah keepers to preach this.
I trust your interpretation more today because you are willing to accept that something might be wrong on your part. I'm not saying you were wrong. I'm saying if you find that you might have been wrong, you will stand accountable 👍. Thanks for your vigorous work. I have 2 choices, either never read the Bible or do everything I can to know who God is. I can read well, but do not comprehend the Bible well enough. Again, thank you very much, lex.
People changing their position doesn’t make them right. Even the Apostle Peter fell into the hypocrisy of changing his position about the Gentiles under the pressure of his Jews peers, and Paul had to rebuke him in public.
Read exploits of Faith you will read the Bible and comprehend it well with time and your life will change forever your wealth your health your spirit your self - everything will change 👍
Thank you Lex, I appreciate your follow up to the original teaching. Blessings to you and yours. praise Yah ❤
Old Covenant = Tithing as a Command. New Covenant = Generous Giving as a Believer. Huge difference.
Only landowners in Israel were required to tithe a tenth of their crops and herds. All other professions were exempt. God never commanded people to give 10% of their monetary income to the church, temple, or anywhere else.
If you are going to make stuff up and claim that crops and herds are a metaphor for monetary income, that priests and Levites are a metaphor for preachers and church employees, that the storehouse is a metaphor for the church treasury, then why is it not fair to say that giving a tenth is a metaphor for giving enough to make it matter but not too much to put me in the poor house.
It is intellectually dishonest to make everything else a metaphor but make the 10% literal.
Also, if preachers & church employees are going to step into the shoes of priests & Levites, then they need to forego an inheritance and not own any property.
If you are going to apply the law to givers and giving, then apply it to recipients as well.
As far as priests are concerned, there is one God and one mediator between God and man, and that is Jesus Christ.
Paying mandatory tithes to a so-called human priesthood is a slap in the face to Jesus Christ.
Jesus is our high priest, and it does not cost him any money to intercede for us.
I agree with your comment!?
@@user-dk6bl8cv6i Thanks.
Tithing was animals. spices .veggies. wine,olive oil etc .not money.
I’d like to see your list of verses to support this declaration that money was never considered tithe. If tithes were the WAGES of the levites, then how would they have anything but food if tithe was only food? 10% of all your increase is the commandment. Your increase comes in many forms. Your increase can be converted into many forms. It’s still your increase. Levites needed money just as all Israelites did. Money was a LARGE form of the tithe.
Why are you saying that Mal 3 is written to us!?
I have so many questions to ask you about this subject. Could you do a TH-cam Live so that we can ask questions?
Glad to see you successfully worked through these questions. I have been tithing for nearly 50 years now, and God has been faithful to bless and protect us through many troubles. The early years were lean, but the blessing kept adding up in most amazing ways.
Consider this: how will the nations be able to go up to Jerusalem year by year to keep Sukkot if not for 2nd tithe (cf. Isa 2:2-4, Zech 14:16-17)? Hag Sameach!
I really appreciate this video, I too didnt know how to feel about tithe and how it would apply to me. I will take what you say to heart and seek to honor God with my tithes and offerings.
whats your opinion on leviticus 11:8. more specifically i m interested in the part about touching carcases? its sin to touch body of dead unclean animal? not that i want to touch dead hog, but sometimes skin products/shampoons contain animal derived ingredients, like glycerin.
Is it ok to place money each week in the basket as offering instead of
tithe" as long as it adds up to 10%?
You ignored one of your main points from previous videos. You just acted like you never talked about what was actually tithed before. Nobody is against tithing, they’re against tithing incorrectly. You didn’t address everything in your own previous videos and that’s a pretty big red flag.
I think the objective is clear here. The 1st video was NOT in error
Here is what I want to ask. What is the real reason for the change of heart about this teaching? I am sensing an external and unnamed motivator.
Maybe you have an internal motivator not to heed this teaching….😮
Shabbat shalom
@ManfredYB The name of my channel isn't Unlearn the Lies. My internal motivator is to end the codependency that Christian leaders strive to create with their constant corruption, obfuscation, and conflation of words in the Bible.
Maybe you can explain why ktaomai is used in Luke 18:12 instead of misthos or opsonion.
I'll help, the latter two terms actually DO relate to wages or income - but they weren't used. Instead, a word related more to possessions was used. Wouldn't you expect the opposite if we are supposed to tithe from our income?
Thank you so much for correcting this...because when we tithed we were so blessed ..n then my husband thought like you that we did not have to...but I knew this was not true ...I'm so thankful that you did this video...we love your teachings and appreciate your ministry
What about Malaci chapter 3. ??
If you are a Son of Jacob, with the Temple in Jerusalem, and the Levites are ministering in the Temple? If so, then you must tithe and don’t forget to bring an animal sacrifice. “The burden of the word of the LORD to Israel..” Not the church.
I have no problem giving to those in need. Great video Lex.
Call it an offering. Tithes is not required, Offerings are expected but to be given cheerfully. Opening the windows of heaven and The pouring out the blessing refers to "RAIN". Without rain, crops/produce cannot successfully grow. If the windows of heaven were shut up, then no rain, and therefore no fruit/produce/healthy livestock to pay the tithes. Let's not add to the Word, but take it as it says. Your first video was well on point.
In all, what I understand is we should give both to the needy in and out of the church and also put some amount of money into the church for the preachers and the maintenance of the house of GOD. For me.
Malachi 3:10-12 "Bring the full tithe into the storehouse, so that there may be food in my house, and thus put me to the test, says the Lord of hosts; see if I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour down for you an overflowing blessing.
What done happened to you sir? You had it right initially. When you brought up Malachi the 3rd chapter I almost fell out of my chair If you know the Malachi story the people did bring their tithes. I was the back slidden priest who misused the tithes. Please go back and correct this sir
When Jesus was on earth he never took any tithe nor his desciples...he never even taught his desciples to teach on tithing
And as a carpenter did not tithe either.
This is clearly a deceptive argument. Ofc wouldn't have taken tithes. He wasn't a Levite priest. Matt. 23 shows Him straightforwardly telling the Pharisees that they were supposed to tithe, and the disciples were there. So to try to argue that He didn't teach the disciples to tithe is an outright lie. What we clearly don't see is Christ telling ppl not to tithe, and yet rebellious "Christians" would have ppl believe that they ought to simply assume that is true.
Matthew 23 v 23 talks about the tithe STILL being food (and very picky samples at that. Jesus admonished the Pharisees for them ignoring the 'weightier matters of the LAW ...' They were still under the law until Jesus died for our sins. New Testament example for giving is 2 Cor 9 God bless. There is no evidence he taught the disciples to tithe (unless you can prove from specific scripture by any chance?) @@theeternalsbeliever1779
Looks like Lex just relearned some unlearned lies.
You didnt explain how a tithe which wasnt money in the old testament should be applied in the new testament?
Are we to give a tenth of every wage (weekly/monthly) or annually as if we were harvesting crops?
Look, i beleive in giving to ministers and ministries. I so give... but no, I wont permit anyone twist my understanding of the tithe
I'm very new to tithing and I need help understanding this. When you talk about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd tithe are you splitting 10% 3 way?
The 2nd tithe that goes to the family celebrating the feast days, how does that go? What are the feast days? What does this money really go towards?
Under Mosaic Law there were 3 tithes mentioned that were facilitated under ceremonial and civil ordinances during that time. All were submitted as consumable items within Israel. The Levitical tithe occurred once a year but not in the 7th year, where the land rested. The poor tithe occurred every 3 years and the festival tithe(s) presumable occurred once a year. So, annualized, that amounts to about 23.3%. Money wasn't mentioned as accepted as a tithe deliverable although there may have been an exception with the land tithe redemption, but there was a penalty for doing so.
@@markb7067Thank you so much for your response 🙏🏾
@@markb7067gentile preachers think that they can use the levitical law of God to receive tithes and offerings, and not offer God the heave offering of all the tithes, as the Lord commanded Moses.
{ Numbers 18:28 }
Preachers and church members that are under the levitical law of God, are a debtor to keep the whole law.
For it is written, cursed is everyone that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
{ Galatians 3:10 }
Preachers and church members can't be justified by the the law in the sight of God, because the law is not of faith.
{ Galatians 3:11-12 }
Preachers and church members don't understand how the levitical law of God works?
The people of God need to give freely to the poor, out of love and kindness.
God loves a cheerful giver.
{ 2 Corinthians 9:7 }
The preacher can eat and drink of the gospel for doing the work of the Lord.
{ Luke 10:7 }
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{ 1 Timothy 5:18 }
The tithers need to tithe according to the levitical law of God, and not according to what it seems right to a preacher or a church member.
But tho whole point of tithing is to help others threw God by giving the first fruites,this includes food,money and material things,am I correct😅❤❤❤
The first fruits mentioned in the old testament referred to the first of your crop being brought to the temple and once the priest blessed it it became food for you and your household to enjoy while you are at the temple ,basically its a party
The thing is the giving practiced by early Christians was not tithing or 10%. It was giving according to each ones heart's desire. Tithing is legalism.
"Legalism" is the liar's way of calling God a liar while claiming to follow Him.
There seems to be a lot of jumping back and forth from Old Testament to New. My question is this: Are we under grace (New Testament) or bound by law (Old Testament)? If we are under grace then why are we obeying laws from the Old Testament? And if we are commanded to obey the "laws" then why are we not taught to abide by ALL of them? I am not suggesting that we should not give to the church, but referring to the Ole Testament tithe as a guideline seems wrong.
The love of Yeshua and discipline of the Father (law)
I'm new to Torah, can you answer a question for me plz are we suppose to keep the lunar Shabbath?
Hazel , I think that question could be best answered by a rabbi . I'm a Christian and I think the answer is yes because I watch on the TV a couple of messianic rabbi teachers .
This has nothing to do with being a Christian. There may be some physical benefit to following physical things from the Old Testament, but as Christians we are not required to by the Law of Love to follow moons & sabbaths. We should keep some type of sabbath but it doesn’t have to be on what we think is the 7th day, or Saturday. If you desire to do it, thats your choice but God has no requirement for these to be executed by Christians. Jesus fulfilled & finished the work. There are spiritual lessons in learning about everything from Torah, but the work is complete in Jesus and your faith in His High Priesthood. Read Colossians 2
@chrstmanservant have you considered that Hazel may be Jewish ? We know that Jewish and Christians have different beliefs and celebrate things differently. After all the Jewish people don't accept Jesus as their messiah.
Does the 4th commandment say to remember the lunar sabbath? No it doesnt. It says to remember the sabbath and to keep it holy. It says that YAH created all things in 6 days and on the sabbath day the 7th day He rested from all His works. You can read in genesis from the beginning how YAH created each of the days and how He hollowed the 7th day and made it holy so stop letting people complicate it for you when YAH already wrote it for you to read and believe.
So you observe the Gregorian Sabath? If so repent. look up promote the truth calendar and see for yourself.
"It is finished"
John 19:30.
amen
What... is finished?
Christ's mission on this earth was indeed finished, but that isn't the same as Him saying "the Law is finished".
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 the law was fulfilled in Christ. He is our new covenant. It is FINISHED
Stay tuned for another “ I Was Wrong About Tithing Part 2”.
It seems that he did not do an in depth study on the topic of tithes.
Question in Deut 14:24-26, The tithes that you were to carry was in the form of food. In this Scripture if you were able to carry the tithe you would then eat the tithe(food) at the place where God chooses to put his name(place of worship)?
What is the feast tithing for family? How does this look and apply today?
So Kenneth Copland, Benny Hinn, Joyce Mayer, Joel Osteen, etc….. are a type of levites!!!!????
are those your pastors?
@@unlearnthelies nope I never said they where my pastors, I was asking if they where a type of Levite priest?
If they are not your pastors, then why does it concern you? But no, I would not equate false teachers with being levites. I also would not call those people pastors. They are leading people astray.
Find good godly Pastors and support them. Do you want good pastors to keep doing good work? They need support. The false teachers always have good support, but the good ones don’t.
@@unlearntheliesHi brother, most of the AG churches in India have made Tithing compulsory. To feel welcomed, people do. Most however are literally running away.
@@unlearnthelies wouldn’t the support you need would be supplied by Christ alone? (Matthew 6:24-34)
One of the most concise and understandable explanations on why tithing is still valid for the Church today. Thank you.
What is it going to take for followers of Yahuah to finally understand and discern that once we are consecrated to Yah we no longer offer any other sacrifice apart from our whole self. To give and to support the “church” or any other members of the body of Christ should be a natural part of our commitment to love YHWH and others as ourselves. I am so disappointed in this “new” revision. There’s such a lack of understanding throughout the churches on this topic.
Very good Information on purpose. Another question is what did the people of God do with what they had after the tithe? Were they allowed to waste it or did they maintain a mentality of generosity and community with the extra??? Hmmm
Im sad that we've gone from Unlearn the Lies to Reteach the Lies.😢 The spirit of deception is all over this message. The gospel isn't a retirement plan. Did Creflo Dollar edit this video?
Exactly why we need to read the Word for ourselves. People can switch up anytime, hence why many are called but few are chosen. Matthew 22:14 (KJV) "For many are called, but few are chosen."
You are twisting scripture to fit your narrative.
If you look at it plainly, is it wrong to tithe? No
@@liliesofthefield5310 nobody is saying it's wrong to tithe. Tithe your whole paycheck if you'd like but let's not make a doctrine taking scripture out of context to fit a narrative.
Can you please tell me what scripture I twisted?
@@unlearnthelies you used Malachi as a reference to infer that we are robbing and sinning against God . That verse was specifically applied as a rebuke to the people of Israel at that specific time . Basically everything else you stated can be rebutted and I'm sure it has been in the comment section. When Jesus said "It is finished" I believe he meant it. Shalom to you .
So you don’t think the words of a prophet that are written in Scripture apply to us today?
So, does the current minister actually meet the biblical example of what a minister does as described in the Bible? Do their actions equate to Levite example? 2) does this “command” he discusses, doesn’t it now create a biblical conflict? 3) how can we apply the examples of the old testimony, of the Levites and the Holy Land of Israel (at that time), when those parameters do not exist today?
Very good explanation sir... I was waiting for it... I'm very impressed :) In the future, please do not waste yours and others' time...